LOL - Isn't telling a young LDS girl that she's going to be a mother kind of their version of a self-fulfilled prophecy? I mean, I just get that they weren't really predicting anything more than what is expected of a vast majority of LDS females. If I am stereo-typing, I apologize. But these blessings seem to be as reliable as a daily horoscope.
Emily My LDS fortune cookie didn't include that "promise"...but, it happened anyway. The more I learned about Joseph Smith the further out the chapel door I found myself. THANKS, Joseph!! This is George Carlin Comedy on Religion you might enjoy. Not just Mormonism.... ruclips.net/video/8r-e2NDSTuE/видео.html
My PB was the most uninspiring form letter piece of drivel Ive ever read. I've received letters from the IRS that were more informative and exciting. I was a convert who joined in my early 20's. And it basically just instructed me over and over to convert as many of my family members as possible and have as many kids as possible
Same. Mine basically just said "go on a mission, get some girl pregnant and then die" and it really wasn't helpful. I swear there are buzzfeed quizzes that gave me better prophesies
My wife’s PB has about 3 paragraphs with exactly the same words of an LDS book published here in Brazil. Inspiration? Miracle? Plagiarism? My bishop said to us “Don’t tell this to anyone “ 🤨
My grandma in her patriarchal blessing was told she would see the 2nd coming of Jesus before she died. She died almost 15yrs ago. And spoiler alert no second coming yet.
@@yourtanktopfriend777 LOL!! It's worse than an MLM. In an MLM you get PAID for the work you do (theoretically). In Mormonism, not only do you not get paid for you're work, you get nothing but empty promises. On top of that, YOU have to PAY TEN PERCENT to the LDS Corporate MLM! After 50 years as a Mormon, not once did I ever even get a "thank you" for my service. Looking back, it's kinda like Stockholm Syndrome.
@@raymond1868 I didn't "get in the way of *MY blessing* ". I got in the way of god's blessing for me. That was GOD'S Blessing, not mine. MY blessing for me would have been a hell-of-a-lot better than the PB I got! Where was my free choice?? I was only 12. I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. I was TOLD what my blessings would be. No choice there...
Before my blessing i talked to the man giving it to me for a bit, and i told him i was an artist. In my blessing it said if i make art that prompts the spirit in people that i will be a successful artist, which was my dream at the time. I was really depressed and suicidal and all my art was really dark. I felt so guilty about it. I stopped drawing because i couldn’t get myself to draw something that “brought the spirit”. After i left i got into art again and was able to produce a lot of stuff. i found my inner artist again and fell back in love with creating. Now i make erotic paintings of women cause I’m gay lmaooo
I mean its entirely possible for dark art to inspire the spirit in people. Some of my most powerful aspects of my testimony are how well I can see the adversary working against me. Maybe the erotic part is a bit more of an obsession/ addiction that is developed as we knock our heads against all the things we think will bring us happiness in our lives. Embrace that spiritual connection with your dark side, and make some art, that allows the Gift God Gave you to speak truth to the hearts of people who only you can understand!!
@@evansmind244 i think it is bizarre that you embrace dark themes in art, yet devalue sexual themes as addiction and obsession born of fake happiness. Art is an expression of human emotion and experience. why should sexuality be separate from that, yet dark themes are totally fine?
I had the same happen at my wedding sealing! He called me the wrong name the entire time we were being sealed. At least three times! My husband used to tell me jokingly, "We are not legally married anyway because I married someone named Kayla." lol
It seems really scummy that a patriarchal blessing that's portrayed as revelation could tell a woman who may end up facing infertility that if she's just faithful enough, God will bless her with children.
Your patriarchal blessing isn’t only about things that will happen in your life if you stay faithful to God. It is about the things that will happen to you in heaven. Since our bodies will be perfect in heaven, we will be able to have spirit children. So even if you’re in fertile in this life, you can still have kids in the next life
My patriarchal blessing is one of the things that pushed me out of the church. During our short meeting I answered the questions the way he wanted, not what I wanted and that is what was in my blessing. It also said I would marry who I wanted to. I thought this was the dumbest thing because of course I'm not going to marry someone that I don't want to.
When I got my blessing at 14, my parents told the patriarch that I was super into theatre and did lots of genealogy work, so anything unique or specific in it was related to that. It said that my “talents” would be used to bring the gospel to many people. Ironically, before I began doubting the church, I had a traumatic experience in theatre that made me unable to perform without having panic attacks. Reading my patriarchal blessing and knowing that I would never live up to it made an already hard thing so much more painful, because I thought I must’ve done something terribly wrong for God not to fulfill his promise. Those “blessings” do real harm 😕
When I was in the ICU in the hospital, my TMB mother thought that reading my blessing would help "buoy me up" during that trial. I had a panic attack listening to that and the nurse even took my phone away because I was spasming so hard it was messing with the machines I was hooked up to. Needless to say, that contributed to breaking my shelf. I agree, the blessings can do some harm.
Aw, I’m sad to hear that. But I get it. I was married to a Special Forces Army man and things were not happy. And for a long time, I couldn’t read it. I’ve since mostly memorized the blessing. What I’ve realized is that all had to happen so I could become a stronger person. Mine is pretty l.o.n.g. So at the end of it, things really get wrapped in a nicer “bow’ so-to-speak. And as long as I do the “Primary Answers”-scriptures, prayers, etc., Church, I am able to feel the Savior’s love for me. But I’m thankful for the bad and crazy times, now. Haven’t always been. Best wishes.
My friends patriarchal blessing said she would go on a mission And she was all excited. A few months later she was pregnant and all the plans were canceled lol
Sometimes revelation takes time. She may go on a mission when she's older, or she could preach in the Spirit World after death. Blessings are special and they aren't fulfilled at once.
Just as with almost all blessings they are contingent upon our faithfulness and actions. blessings can be just as prescriptive as they are descriptive. It's an encouragement to focus on certain aspects or details so that your path isn't dictated by others or by your circumstances, but rather are under your control. No one would argue that getting pregnant as an unmarried teen was a huge life altering circumstance from living in such a way that would be worthy of serving a mission. maybe the blessing was telling her to stay focused on a mission so that she wouldn't fall pregnant as a single teen mom, and she obviously didn't stay focused enough to keep her path in that direction, but was tempted by boys and her life is now altered forever. we may never know what she could have accomplished or done down that alternative path or who she would now be. There is a reason as to why they call patriarchal blessings personal scripture. it's meant to be guidance for you to listen to and follow, not unalterable prophecy.
@@@scottb4509 I had no clue that there are actual current members watching and even commenting on these videos. But I hope you know by doing this you are open to the discussion now as this is a public platform. I want to point out your reasoning as its circular and leads to no truth being found, as from what I understand from what you said is that this thing can be true but only if you make it true. Its like saying, "you will be the CEO of a major company someday but only if you do the right things to become that CEO." Your premise is your conclusion and is a logical fallacy. You should check this out and tell me if you can answer any of these and get back to me. read.cesletter.org/
@@scottb4509 , Just go away, scott, go learn about how the Book of Abraham has been universally condemned as a FAKE, a FRAUD, a cheesy punky total of crap. Even well-established Mormon apologists have had to RELUCTANTLY admit that it is a total fabrication of Joseph Smith's delusional brain...
Hardly, it's all online,everyone is entitled to an opinion but so much has been slightly twisted. Yes to members their faith is sacred, garments is online temples is online the critiqued history is online. No member when I joined was blind to all the rough stuff which is switstsd out slightly online, I just want to be someone who lives right with my conscience. That's all we an do whatever our faith
@@chazzabooom Your faith is in a man. You wear special clothes with symbols on them for protection. Yes us is on the Internet but it was all hidden from everyone for year's. Your cult lied about everything and now they'll change to fit in. God doesn't change his mind. What he says is forever. How many time's has Joe got it wrong? You can worship anyone you want but don't call yourself Christian because you're not.
Thats true brother if you pay your tithing god will bless you with wisdom to earn money . It happened to me I only did schooling never been in any university still undergraduate but I worked in several MNC where I worked with MBA and Law holders almost same work and same salary eventually I was able to crack interviews .. it's true brother absolutely true God bless you with wisdom
So when I went on a mission... I was in an area with sister missionaries and we had dinner together with a family. We began talking about how she loved brown kids but couldn’t have any ( she is white) so obviously I asked why? And her companion was like go ahead and tell them, she said her patriarch told her she wouldn’t be happy if she married outside her race... I was like ok... that is weird. This girls patriarch was her grandfather!!!! Like wtf! Like how is that even allowed? So dumb
@@yeboscrebo4451 This a very disappointing thing to read. I have had many experiences in being in relationships with people of different economic and racial backgrounds. We are all the same!!! For real! Oh, and I have a son who is mixed race. I did not have problems with his father (who is deceased) because of our diverse backgrounds. How much his family had in common with mine was the reality, even though we came from different backgrounds.
@@yeboscrebo4451 Not only has it worked for me but it has worked again and again. And it has worked for several members of my family including the members of my family who live successfully in different countries with their spouses of differing backgrounds. I read it the same way; be that racial or cultural differences. I simply do not concur with your opinion
That’s so sad! I have 3 black children, a biracial granddaughter, two black granddaughters, and a DIL who was born in Bangladesh. I think they are all beautiful and wonderful.
i think a lot of the stuff that happens in these is also confirmation bias. my moms patriarchal blessing said that she would have kids with disabilities, so when she was dating to get remarried she found someone with disabled kids and married him two weeks after they met. they almost got divorced four years ago, but she decided to stay in the marriage because of that “prophecy.” ive never seen her so constantly stressed and unhappy.
Mine said, "honor your mother because she was brought to death's door bringing you into the world". I'm adopted. I've never met my birth mother. :-( Evil B.S.
Heavenly Father is telling you directly to get in touch with this noble ,brave ,soul who brought you forth into mortality, and honor , love and respect her. Learn her story ! She deserves that !
@@rosenadsady3560 "Heavenly Father is telling you directly to get in touch with this noble ,brave ,soul who brought you forth into mortality, and honor , love and respect her. Learn her story ! She deserves that !" - again - gaslighting. Church members and authorities do it all the time.
@@elizabethharris8172 Hahahah! Jeez, religion is so whack. And people in modern times still believe....why? Cause they want something to believe in. It can't be enough that we are here and get one life we are responsible for, and there may not be an afterlife so treat people how you'd like to be treated. Whether people believe in something or not, that's a fundamental rule, and the rest we won't know till we go. Like Donnie Darko says "it's absurd" we won't know till we die, so debating it is absurd.
The old fellow divined that I am "Descended from the tribe of Ephraim, and people of the North." I wonder how he did that! I'm blond, blue-eyed and so white that I get a sunburn when I open the fridge.
There are some blue eyed blonde girls living as nomads in the north. I watched a documentary as researchers were investigating why there were blue eyed blonde girls because genetically that shouldn’t be so in those areas they were at. It was quite fascinating.
up until around 8000 years ago, all of Europe was dark skinned. The Blue eyes goes back to a single person that had a mutation. So everyone with light colored eyes is related to that person.
It doesn't sound directive enough to even be a cold reading. Just: boy= go on a mission, be a leader. Girl = get married, have babies, maybe 'use your talents to spread the gospel'. They don't really need a lot from the person getting the blessing at all.
I remember a huge scandal from maybe 30 years ago. A patriarch got in SOOOO much trouble for giving the same blessing to maybe 200 people 🤣🤣🤣 I get it now lol. It is alot like a horoscope! I never thought of it that way.
That is too funny! Any possibility of a news story or firsthand account of that scandal? I'd love to look into it more if there was anything written down.
@@ExmoLex I honestly feel like I'm going crazy. I cant find anything right now. I'm starting to think it's just a myth that was spread around. Kind of like when missionaries are asked if mormons have horns. Haha
Psychedelic Unicorn Based on your faith It doesn’t mean anything if you don’t keep the promise. 10 I, the Lord, am bound when ye do what I say; but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise. (D & C 82)
One of my young women leaders told me (when I was in the church) that her patriarchal blessing told her she would have “an abundance of daughters”. And she had 7 sons. No daughters. And she told me she felt like I was one of her “spiritual daughters” because she was my young women’s leader and I was the beehive president at the time.
I always made sure I was not wearing a tie or white shirt because I never felt worthy to pass or bless the sacrament. Turns out I was just a normal teenager. I am so glad I left the church.
@@jaredmitchell1302 in my ward they always gave out assignments at the beginning of class so I always showed up to class late on purpose so I wouldn't have to do it. Looking back I realize that I likely wasn't worthy anyway, but I did it because I was terrified to speak in front of people. But that doesn't mean that the shame is necessarily external. I was judging myself far more than anyone else was. I get that the judgy culture is very prevalent in Mormonism but I also know that we often times project our judgment of ourselves onto others, as if it was actually them judging us. This happens more than we think it does. which in and of itself is actually us judging them more than it is them judging us.
I totally agree. Sometimes we believe others are judging us when they aren’t. I’ve definitely seen judgement though by Mormons especially when an inactive member came to church back when I was in high school. I was the only person at church to speak to him. In a little town everyone knows everything about everyone. It does seem that Mormons are less judgy outside of Utah. There really is a culture thing in Utah. But then again there’s a culture specific in the Philippines where 80% of people are catholic. There’s judgement everywhere but less I find in large cities with a huge mix of diversity.
I felt so much shame for not devoting MORE of my time. I was 1st counselor in relief society, went to the temple several times a week, read my scriptures an hour a day, taught 4 Sunday lessons, etc. But still it wasn't enough. Cult.
Wouldn't that be interesting? Perhaps he would have said something such as "you will find that you will spend most of your life in a small room with a toilet and a sink."
@@icecreamladydriver1606 The “blessing” is a crock of shit used to control young minds. Every female given the “blessing” of being a wife and mother and supporting ( indoctrinating) her children.
Nothing the Church does is based on Divine Inspiration. Mt PB was generic, my mission call was "It's your turn, do you want to go or not because I have someone else waiting". Your Temple name is just Name of the Day from a list, like what to call a hurricane. I never encountered any incidence of Inspiration - not once.
That's why I left. I finally realized that the lesson I hadn't yet learned from all my experiences, the one that explained them all and tied them all together was one simple one: "The church leaders aren't inspired. Not even a little bit. Not at all." I even tested it out by having weekly visits with a bishop (and sometimes his counselors) where I spoke to him plainly, openly, and honestly only to be told that he wasn't convinced. So one final time, in a meeting with him and both his counselors, I stared at my shoes most the time instead of looking him in the eyes, blinked a lot, lied my ass off, and acted choked up. The 3 of them then told me how much they were overwhelmed with "The Spirit" and impressed with the breakthrough. And that was just the last of many examples in my life of their lack of inspiration or divine guidance.
Mine said if I lived worthy I'd be protected when I travel. I felt the spirit and this brings me back to the opinion I've had since I left, that the God will find you where you are. I think some patriarchs may be in tune enough to relate things they feel spiritually. Some not and a lot of it is repetition across the board. I stayed in the church so long because I felt the spirit. What I realized is my testimony was not of Joseph Smith. It was of Jesus Christ. Once I realized it was not a package deal my life has gotten so much better!
I lied about being worthy to get one and I kid you not I was afraid he was going to put his hands on my head and instantly "know" instead I got the most random generic rambling blessing that was really weird. Like it commended me for following the word of wisdom. (I wasn't) today I'm very happy with my tea and edibles 😂
It’s funny cause mine was altered after it was given to me. When the guy was giving it to me, he never said anything about me being a wife (I’m a trans man) But when I got sent the paper form of my blessing it was added in and then expounded upon.
They underrated you! Your mind and heart is genuinely open. You seem like a strong, intelligent, AND kind WORTHY woman. Thanks for being brave enough to share 😎
I’m Hispanic and got Manasseh. Then found out all Hispanics I knew got the same tribe and all the whites got Ephraim. Racism?? 🙄🤔 on another note, I had a lot of the same things as yours, then “gift of discernment”. I certainly had that one cause I discerned the church wasn’t true lol.
Isabella DiBenedetto frankly, maybe the patriarchs in this area were more racist, and just put them all in one “box”. My family members got different tribes and had theirs done elsewhere.
My girlfriend is from one tribe and her TWIN SISTER is from another tribe. And they are 50% Hispanic. The whole “blessing” is just one long ass prayer of garbage. Church quotes, church jargon, etc etc.
My PB blessing was 2 paragraphs and so generic that, even as a “faithful” member, I considered finding out if I could get a new one. I was 26 and divorcing when I got mine and I felt, probably accurately, that the old man patriarch really didn’t like me.
dang - you beat me to it re fortune cookies - I'll have to call PB's a Secret Horoscope - love what you do btw - laughed for a week about you forging Temple Access Bar Codes
@Mike Norton/NewNameNoah!!!! So good to see YOU here! I miss your fabulous videos on your channel! I refer dozens of people to your channel to watch the temple ordinances for themselves. Thanks to you and Lex and so many others for what you do! Keep up the work.
@@byronofcalgary6985 I laughed also! Forging bar codes on temple recommends was just priceless! So many people jumped all over Mike for doing that. However, when I think of all the "non- worthy" members/ex-mos who got to attend their child's wedding/sealing because of Mike's recommends it REALLY makes me smile. :)
Mine also said “I had talents not known yet to me. As I am faithful and serve others it will be made known to me” Also said I’d marry a worthy man and have children that would look up to me. Well... he was a porn addict and not “worthy” to have taken me to the temple. AND I have polycystic ovarian syndrome and couldn’t have kids. I would think HF would know that about me since he made me and knows me individually😉
I also have PCOS. Of course your situation may be different than mine, but I was able to have children with fertility treatments. I hope if you choose to have children, you can. Best wishes!
@@KarinShah Thank you! I’m 49 now, plus had to have full radical hysterectomy 5 years ago. I do have a daughter I adopted and she is now 22. So it all worked out. Ty for your support tho!
@@spookyjupi Lmao! Sorry about getting divorced, that sucks. In my blessing it said I'd have a happy and blessed marriage soon after my mission.... I've never even had a relationship that lasted longer than 6 months and I'm now turning 30 lol
I’m also an ex Mormon. I’m pretty sure the guy who did mine had some sort of stroke during it. It contained a lot of incoherent stuff in it and even my very Mormon parents both got a WTF look on their faces when they read it
@ Blink173! Sounds very much like the old guy who performed my wedding sealing in the temple! The guy couldn't remember either of our names and kept calling us names that were not ours. Not our real names. Not our temple names. But completely different names. So when my husband and I had arguments over the years when we were members of the church he would always say to me "Well.... you know we're really not even married because the names weren't right so we won't even have to get a divorce. We can just walk away!" It was a standing joke for years. Plus the guy was at least 500 years old and was swaying back and forth. My husband was afraid he was going to pitch over the altar. He didn't talk above a whisper and quite a few of my relatives came up to us afterwards and said that they could not hear anything he said. But as we all know who were married in the temple it only takes about two and a half minutes to get married anyway . Very meaningful. I think he would have been better suited to be a worker at the veil. At least if he had pitched over there there would have been plenty of people to catch him instead of just me and my husband!
@@kkheflin3 Yes!! I was so disappointed by how short the sealing ceremony was. I had a similar reaction when I was baptized as a kid: “That’s it? I’ve waited all this time FOR THIS?” For a while after the wedding, I was scared that I was actually breaking the law of chastity because CLEARLY a ceremony that short couldn’t possibly be legitimate.
@@angelenapulis9083 I know! Non members get so upset (which I can certainly understand now) about not being able to go to the temple to see their family members get "married." They don't understand it is NOT a "wedding." It is a ten minute thing where the couple can't even look at each other. I went to many over 38 years in the church. The sealer always tells the couple to look at HIM during the sealing. Dressed up in those bizarre clothes with your husband looking like a baker and your beautiful wedding dress covered with temple clothes and ugly veil. They see the bright eyed couple come out of the temple in "real" wedding clothes and assume they missed seeing them walk down the aisle etc. If only they knew......(Now they can. Go to Mike Norton's Newname Noah' channel. He taped one of them.) So disheartening.
My parents took me and my older sister on the same day for our patriarchal blessings. I wasn't particularly paying attention, because at twelve, I was already drifting away. This was in the 50's and I was just getting into Civil Rights, and repelled by the racism in the church. On the way home, my sister cried and said my blessing was better than hers, so I told her, "No problem, you can have mine. I don't want it anyway, cause it's a bunch of hooey." Needless to say, I fully left soon thereafter, although my mother, who was a cultist obscessive, beat me over the head with church doctrine for the rest of my life until she died at age 97. My sister stayed faithful until the day she died six years ago.
As an non Mormon, so as someone looking in from the outside, I suspect that you are 100% correct. In my experience most denominations of Christianity that have these "don't tell anyone else, its just between God and the leadership and you" they do that because they don't want people comparing notes.
It’s very disturbing how these Christian denominations teach secrecy 😒 I love God, I love Jesus. Ugh Christian followers annoy me! None of them should be talking.
Yours: you were faithful in the presence of your Heavenly Father Mine: you were faithful in the preexistence Yours: by prophecy and revolution Ephraim was given the responsibility to take the leadership of the gathering of the house of Israel in the latter days and be a great moving force in the preparation and restoration of the gospel. You will be a part of that important work. Mine: inasmuch as you are of this lineage, you have an additional responsibility to be available to serve your fellow men and assist our leaders in the work that is going forward now preceding the time of our saviors return. Yours:I bless you that you will be grateful of the challenges that you will have a head of you, you where picked and chosen because you have the capacity and potential to do great things. Heavenly Father will protect you, you will never be tempted beyond your ability to withstand the temptation of Satan. You will stay close to the spirit Mine: be honest, virtuous and trustworthy in all things, and you will be blessed. You will experience in your lifetime some difficulties and problems. When these times come to you, remember that we are here to be tested and they are part of our mortal experience. To learn to obey the commandments and do the will of Heavenly Father, even in times of stress and adversity. Yours: if you live worthy you will find a wonderful companion. This is one of the most important decisions you must make in this life. You must know for sure that you are making the right choice and you can know this by the prompting of the spirit Mine:as the time comes that you anticipate an eternal companion, attend the church classes and functions that are offered. Call upon your Heavenly Father and follow the counsel of your parents, and you will be led to a worthy young man who will take you to the temple to be married for time and eternity and receive the blessings that are given in that holy place. Yours: at the right time in your life you will be a mother and Heavenly Father wants you to bring choice spirits into your home to teach them the gospel and raise them righteously to accomplish the purpose of their life Mine: you and your husband will be blessed with the opportunity to prepare tabernacles for spirits that your Heavenly Father will send to your home. Encourage your companion to assist you in teaching, loving, nurturing and setting a good example for your children. As you are faithful in this calling, they will follow your example and teachings and will be worthy to return back to their Heavenly Father. I bless you that you will have joy, happiness and peace in your home, and that your home with be a safe haven for your family amidst the problems of the world. Your: (talents) Mine: your Heavenly Father has bless you with many talents and with much ability. As you mature and gain knowledge and understanding, additional talents and abilities will be granted unto you. You will be able to accomplish your righteous desires here. He has, also blessed you with the gift of faith, wisdom, knowledge, discernment, and with a desire to follow the principles of the gospel and counsel of our leaders. As you do this, joy and happiness will be yours, and you will gain a strong testimony of the divinity of the gospel and of Jesus Christ and his blessings.
When you said the rumors part, it reminded me of when I was LDS and we were talking about Patriarchal Blessings in Young Women’s. There was a story of a young man who was going on his mission and wanted to get his blessing before he went out. His family wanted to read it or learn what it said and he said no and wouldn’t let them read it or tell them anything it said. He later died two weeks out on his mission and when his family got his stuff, they read that it said he would die on his mission but he would have all the blessings of exhalation. At the time I though “wow. How amazing to have that faith. I’d be terrified.” Now I both giggle at my naïveté and want to yell at that. Like, dude. Wtf.
Could be a coincidence, but based on research about near death experiences, etc. I think everyone has some capacity for spiritual inspiration whether they're in the Church or not, through connecting with other spirits. My point is the patriarch may have been inspired to say that he would die on his mission, but that doesn't mean that the Church has the priesthood! It means maybe he should have heeded the warning.
@A Tangerine I know, I'm sorry, I was just frustrated with people who choose to make fun of my beliefs. So, I apologize. But don't ever call me a "dummy".
My patriarchal blessing was an emotional roller coaster for me. I think I got it when I was 19 and living in a densely populated Mormon area I was asked constantly why I didn’t have it. I was worried about what it would contain and when I got it, and whether I was ready to receive it. When I got it I was shocked. I got less than a page of blessing a total of 3 paragraphs one of which was a introduction similar to lex’s and another was the conclusion that was basically the same as lex’s with the morning of the resurrection and what not. It also included both personal, nothing about my spouse or children, callings anything. It had a short section about being part of the tribe of ephraim, them almost verbatim the per about talents and missionary work. That was it the whole thing. So I started asking around to all my friends the shortest other blessing I heard of was a page and a half, but basically everyone had 2.5 to 3 pages. Everyone else had a section about callings and marriage, it made me feel like god didn’t care about me or expected/prepared anything for me. But now I now it’s flack and it’s comforting to know that so many people have the same rehashed stuff. Thank you for coming to my TEDex-mormon talk
Mine was fairly similar to yours. I remember my patriarch sitting down to get to know me better before. I mentioned my favorite class was English and I enjoyed writing. Wouldn't you know those two things showed up in the blessing. Mine talked about my future partner, too, and it said some vague thing about "it'll take a bit before you get married... and then you will." Like you, my blessing made it sound like my only real purpose in life was to have kids. Having read my sister's blessings, a similar sentiment was in theirs, too.
Mine said I would marry a stalwart young man, and that I made promises to some people in the premortal life that I would bring them into the church. Welp, I guess I'll figure out that broken promise when I get to it. Oh it also said I would choose a profession that would help bring Jesus to people. Everything else was the same. I read my dads, it was like half a paragraph that said, "You'll have trials, don't stray from god." He left my immigrant mother with no job and 4 kids to take care of so I guess PBs all around aren't worth much to anyone.
I only remember other than there was nothing in mine about being a mom (which kinda worked out cuz I don't want kids) one line: "You are going to be a very important leader in the world." I legit thought that meant I was gonna be president someday. Haha. I have zero leadership skills, have never even been in management or anything like that whatsoever.
Mine had really only one sentence that can be construed as “unique” for a PB. “Because of your integrity, you will find favor in the eyes of your employer, and that will be more valuable to you than gold.” I’m a medical student, so this definitely hasn’t happened yet. 😂
Thank you for sharing your story! I am binge watching you. I was a convert, at 18. My mother was a born again Christian and would not even speak to me on Sundays when I went to church. When I met with the patriarch, he spoke with me and asked about my journey to the LDS faith. The bulk of my blessing dealt with my mother and how my spirit will lead her to the true church, by my example. Well. I no longer speak to my mother, and I am no longer a member of the church. Like you, the contradictions and smoke in mirrors was too much. Thanks for making others feel normal and okay about their exit.
Joanna, we have a lot in common. I too was a convert at 18. My mother was so upset about it, she demanded I leave college in Utah and come home immediately. She couldn’t stand Brigham Young and the church.
Maybe the reason they don’t want people discussing them is because several people have read their ancestors P.B., which said that they would live to see Christ’s return......well.....clearly, that didn’t happen. So they said that Patriarchs were encouraged to refrain from saying that anymore. Oops! Too late, mine says that too!
Darn. I am not Mormon; so I never got a patriarchical blessing. Although I've been enough of a gadfly that I may have gotten a few patriarchs heaving curses in my direction. I've heard Mormon leaders say really nasty things about non-Mormons and ex-Mormons. A segment on patriarchical cursing might be interesting.
yintercept lol I’ve never heard of a patriarchal curse, but I wouldn’t doubt that kind of thing probably happened closer to the founding of the church in the 1800’s. Sounds like something Brigham Young would have condoned.
@@ExmoLex There used to be an oath of vengeance in the Endowment Ceremony. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_vengeance Along with consecrating every ounce of your being to the church, you would curse the United States. Wikipedia says the words are: " You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease to pray to Almighty God to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the third and fourth generation." It is useful to know the curse when one encounters people who think Mormons are more patriotic than other people. I suspect that the early Mormons let loose a whole slew of curses. PS: I had met Mormons who threw curses in the direction of Obama. I suspect that curses aren't in fashion.
@@yintercept4612 Is that the blood oath that led to that huge massacre in the mountains of Utah, where the Mormons slaughtered an entire wagon train, then stole everything of value, including their babies?
I believe so, but there have been later incidents of the blood Oath even up to the 20th century. They had a organization of Killers from within the church that targeted and took out who ever Joseph Smith felt was a danger to his power. even families who were considered the Gentiles that he felt were enemies of the church. They were contract killings, from being shot in the dark, or having your house and barn set on fire with people and animals still in them - usually done at night. It is downright frightning the kind of power elders welded. Members were too scared to voice any questions or opposition knowing that to do so would result in being a target for execution. The men who rode from place to place were zealots God's Avenging Angels who punished the wicked, and crack shots with a rifle. There is a great Western movie on this history , if you go to Western movies on Mormonism you will find some. It was very well done, a killer comes to the realisation, that what he is doing is wrong, is unjustified murder and the problems that caused him. Well done movie, based I think on a true story.
Mine was done so poorly, that I googled of I could get a redo. I thought maybe it was me 😞. I litterally just left the church and so all of this has helped me. I kept thinking I wasn't "worthy". So happy now that I know the truth!!
I never understood why mine said I was a direct descendant of Ephraim but everyone else in my family was adopted. It kinda makes sense now that I realize it's all made up. I can't believe we all just accept the total lies we're told
You have the responsibility to bring souls to Jesus Christ. I am living out my blessing right now! If you have it pray before you read it and ask God if it’s really from him.
Great video Lex! Interestingly, I've talked to quite a few people who left the church when they were in the second half of their life (who had received patriarchal blessings as young people) and realized how totally inaccurate many were simply due to the specificity of them. For example, one acquaintance was told she would be a missionary and sent to Haiti. She was sent to France by the "inspired" leaders in the church (who obviously hadn't checked out her PB in advance). Another was told that she and her husband ("eternal companion") would be married in a temple "in the lands of Nephi within a decade." They were married in a temple in Hawaii as that is where her husband was from. (As you know, the church doesn't claim that Hawaii had ANYTHING to do with the coming forth of the Book of Mormon though they have shifted back and forth over the years as to whether the events took place in North or South America). All of these events in their lives occurred way BEFORE they left the church so the church can't claim their usual fallback position which of course is "the PB only is accurate if you stay worthy, blah blah, blah ." I can't help but believe the leaders have now given some sort of directive to patriarchs to make blessings VERY general now for these reasons. When I listened to yours I can see how generic it is.
Just sayin', you probably would have discovered at least one talent from the pre-existence if you had only done what your mom kept on nagging you about and taken those piano lessons! 😜
Mine was the same as all the other girls my age (15-17) in my ward. We all had our blessings within a few weeks of each other. One Sunday the other girls were standing outside the Sunday school door waiting, and they were all talking about what was in theirs. I was so so upset… I cried A LOT because “God” didn’t care enough to say something different to me! My mom said “Well if you’re righteous we’re all worthy of the same blessings” - her explanation of why this happened. I didn’t ever buy that. When I lost my first child at age 26 (she was 6, from a rare brain tumor), I went through that dang blessing at least 100 times with a fine tooth comb trying to find ANYTHING that would help me through that. Guess what? Not one thing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Yep it’s fake. (I left the church at age 32.)
I know to think of losing a child at any age makes me think, “I think I’ll just die myself, now.” My sis lost a 12-year-old to rare form of cancer. They were so friggin’ strong and my nephew was too. Exemplary, actually. May the Lord continue to comfort you. My sis and husband say, “People tell me, ‘Good thing you have other children.’” But as u know, it leaves a cannon-size hole inside your soul. May He comfort you and come hold you tight on the days/nights it seems too difficult to get through.
Well that’s almost exactly the same as mine apart from being a mother because I’m a man mine was done in the 86 wow no new material. I’ve been following your videos very informative
I got mine when I was 16/17. I remember being super excited to finally have something that was just mine (I'm the youngest of 8 kids). I was told basically the same thing. I left the church because I didn't feel that it was right. I'm Wiccan now. I want to find a copy of it in order to read it to my husband. He's Catholic raised. Lol Sometimes when I tell him things he's just like "Wow. That's bazaar!
@@LizEsc I was doing some research on near death experiences and noticed that two people who used to be Mormon (and others) before their experience preferred Wicca afterward because they believe that everything is interconected (near death experiences very often describe a feeling of "oneness").
They'll say that you're from Ephram if they don't receive any revelation with the information of your actual specific tribe. It does't surprise me then that EVERYBODY is from Ephram
Why do I want blessing from any man when Jesus Christ is always be with us? Only a cult will want you to depend on them to tell you what or how to live your life
14:49 Holy shit! I had the exact same question! It was shut down in church really quick! I wanted to know why Christ came to this planet and not another, and the answer I got was that our planet was the only one wicked enough to kill Christ. Haha what bullshit.
I almost had a PB. When I got there I asked the guy where the crystal ball and tarot cards were. I got promptly escorted to the door. Thanks for that memory... Made my day!
Looking back on it, having served in the bishopric, I just now realized that I never received a patriarchal blessing. Guess it's not a job requirement. Whew.....
So how did you serve in the bishopric? I saw one of your comments on another channel where you said that you slept with 400 women after seeing boobs in the sears catalog. So how did you go from that to serving in the bishopric. It sounds like it would be an interesting story, which is why I'm asking.
@@floydfreaktc1 I think it was on one of the brother Jake videos. I don't remember which one now since that was over a month ago. I was on a binge watching lots of Mormon videos and he made that comment. He said he was in the military so it was easy to get laid.
Oh my gosh I just remembered when I was *14* years old, a 17 year old creep who i was not dating because "it wasnt allowed to date before you were 16" told me that he got a prompting that the woman he would marry that was mentioned in his patriarchal blessing was me, good glory that whole thing was messed up. He also tried to kiss me once and when i said no he was like "yeah you're right, the spirit told me i shouldnt have done that but i didnt listen. anyway why didnt you kiss me? give me a reason"
in the talk before the blessing I told the patriarch that I don't really want to get married and that does not define me as a woman and in the blessing it says I will get married and have kids(naturally or adopted) and in the afterlife. and I am like...just having kids isn't the sole purpose of a woman.
All mine said was "kids would come into your home". But not that I would have kids. I guess he got that part right. I mean, my neices and nephews came into my house a few times. Lol
But just think! If you would have stayed in the church you would have been able to continue to be continually pregnant throughout eternity to populate your own planet! Raising your spirit children! I always thought the men got a better deal in the afterlife..
My family always excused those who didn't fulfill their patriarchal blessing by saying they will do it in heaven. Me: "Didn't {insert dead family here}'s patriarchal blessing say they would serve a mission... because they didn't." Mom: "They are completing their patriarchal blessing by serving as a missionary to those in spirit prison." I just accepted that logic back then but now I see that this logic could extend to almost anything you could do. If you live forever then at one point you will probably do everything and certainly every vague thing guessed at by some old man.
@@ExmoLex Yes they do have a contingency plan! If you don't have children on this Earth don't worry about it because you'll be able to have children throughout all of eternity to populate the other planets and be eternally pregnant which to me (even though I enjoyed it when I had my three children) would be a real downer to have to do for eternity. If you don't go on a mission here don't worry about it you can be a missionary for all of eternity. Doesn't that sound like fun?
Yours was SO different from mine! Mine told me I couldn’t have kids.. which absolutely devastated me. Sadly its been 11 years and that part is true. Idk why the patriarch said that.
Well i am a faithful active member and getting ready for my PB and I'm dating a woman (lds only ) who can't conceive I have a great desire to be a father great desire I feel your pain sister
Mine said something a little similar about talents. 'Now you have talents within you that you exercised in your first estate, and are with you still. Some are in abeyance, pending the time of the Lord; some you already exercise; others will emerge that you were totally unaware of. And depending on the righteousness of your life, depending upon where you are, what you are doing, and the needs of your callings those talents shall be made manifest. However, one talent is more particular within you, even your artistic ability...' I had disclosed that I thought I was a good artist in our little chat before the blessing, when he asked me to name a talent that I had.
Same here. I told the patriarch that I was interested in acting. Guess what? The Lord admonishes me to pursue acting very carefully as Satan has a firm grip in this field. The rest of my blessing was blah blah. Go on a mission, marry in the temple, have a numerous posterity. I also supposedly have the blood of Ephraim in my veins. And I'm white. To quote the late Jim Nabors 'Surprise, surprise, surprise!'.
It is not my intention to be snide or sarcastic here. I am simply telling the truth of a personal experience. I am not, nor have ever been Mormon. But this patriarchal blessing sounds very much like a card reading I got from a friend of mine. Of course, this was bogus. It was just something he would do for entertainment and many of us friends of his would just have a good time. But, I tell you, some of the things he said are the same as some of the things in your patriarchal blessing -- marriage, family and spiritual purpose. Not word for word, but certainly promise to promise. Yep. Not only is your blessing probably similar to the blessings others receive, it are even similar to card readers that don't have the faintest connection with Mormon. Your effort to get a copy of that was worth it, even to at least this one non Mormon. Maybe others too. Just thought you would like to know.
They are called Barnum Statements. General statements written in such a way so as to sound very specific to an individual but when examined, are very general and could apply to anyone.
@@barbjoz63 -- Don't get me wrong. I believed it was a real thing. That's just what makes it so much better. I am going to try to remember this term. It fits so many things and is so perfect. Actually -- thank you.
I am always so surprised by how many Mormons come here (and other exmo sites) to defend the church when they are not supposed to listen to or read anti church redridoric 🤔🤔🤔 isn't that a sin??
I got my PB after I had been baptised about a year, I was a convert. I was told I was from the tribe of Dan. I used to love that I was in such a unique tribe. Now I’m like its just rubbish.
Mine talked about my gift of kindness that God gave me, that I was going to cloth children with mortal bodies (it was very wierd stated in that way), that I was going to be a leader and needed to be an influence for young women in my later years, and talked about I needed to read the scriptures to determine my vocation in life (also wierdly stated and extremely vague). Also that it was all conditional if I stayed worthy. Ours were quite similar hope this helps 🙂 thanks for your videos it really helps knowing there are people going through the same experience I am!
Ha, I had weird wording around having kids, too! It said they would “spring forth” from me. I assumed that meant I would have a quick labor or something?
Lol mine said I was awesome in the pre-existence too...and from Ephraim...also worthy companion and "unto this union, you will have children", also a teacher and a leader. and OMG even the be blessed with the spirit to help make decisions.
Ephraim had one hell of a lineage since every white person I've ever known is told they come from the tribe of Ephraim. Every Hispanic I know comes from the tribe of Manasseh.
Wow, I never thought about there being more than one heavenly mother. Also, I 100% believed they were getting “revelation”. I felt betrayed when I realised it wasn’t true.
Mine said I would meet a special handmaiden of the Lord through a friend and marry her in the temple for all eternity. I met her at church, we married in the temple, and she left me for another man and told lies. Cool! I don't judge her but hey the Lord doesn't really tell a patriarch anything at all. God obviously has no plan for us. We plan our own life!
Mine said, "You are blessed with the gift of discernment." I guess that gift was what allowed me to discern that the church was false.
This! All the things that mormons liked about me are the same things that got me to get tf out hah
Hell yeah, keep on discerning!
Smart blessing
Mine said the exact same thing
LOL - Isn't telling a young LDS girl that she's going to be a mother kind of their version of a self-fulfilled prophecy? I mean, I just get that they weren't really predicting anything more than what is expected of a vast majority of LDS females. If I am stereo-typing, I apologize. But these blessings seem to be as reliable as a daily horoscope.
Yeah, "you will get married" really isn't a prediction when everyone gets married. Its like saying the ground is going to get wet when it rains
Mine says that I’d learn extensively about Joseph Smith.... how ironic.
Emily Winkel that’s too good 🤭
Well, did it come true? Because if so, I wonder why... must be revelation.
Wow! How could they possibly have known that! What a stretch for any Mormon! Truly insightful patriarch!
Emily
My LDS fortune cookie didn't include that "promise"...but, it happened anyway. The more I learned about Joseph Smith
the further out the chapel door I found myself.
THANKS, Joseph!!
This is George Carlin Comedy on Religion you might enjoy. Not just Mormonism....
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Soon I will be going to receive my PB I wish I would have the same. You are so lucky feeling jealous 💜 "Billions shall know brother Joseph again "
My PB was the most uninspiring form letter piece of drivel Ive ever read. I've received letters from the IRS that were more informative and exciting. I was a convert who joined in my early 20's. And it basically just instructed me over and over to convert as many of my family members as possible and have as many kids as possible
Same. Mine basically just said "go on a mission, get some girl pregnant and then die" and it really wasn't helpful. I swear there are buzzfeed quizzes that gave me better prophesies
My wife’s PB has about 3 paragraphs with exactly the same words of an LDS book published here in Brazil. Inspiration? Miracle? Plagiarism? My bishop said to us “Don’t tell this to anyone “ 🤨
My grandma in her patriarchal blessing was told she would see the 2nd coming of Jesus before she died. She died almost 15yrs ago. And spoiler alert no second coming yet.
Not in full but He has come to different temples. Just sayin'.
@@icecreamladydriver1606 ?
Hmm interesting, well whatever anyones beliefs we need to live to the light we do have!
@@icecreamladydriver1606 hahahahaha
My grandma was told this too. She passed away 17 years ago.
The best part is that if your blessing doesn't manifest it is your fault that you weren't worthy. Great scam.
gotta have someway to have keep paying for the fortune telling even when they don't come true.
The funny thing is why your blessing has not manifest is because YOU got in the way of YOUR own blessing
Sounds like an MLM
@@yourtanktopfriend777
LOL!!
It's worse than an MLM.
In an MLM you get PAID for the work you do (theoretically).
In Mormonism, not only do you not get paid for you're work, you get nothing but empty promises.
On top of that, YOU have to PAY TEN PERCENT to the LDS Corporate MLM!
After 50 years as a Mormon, not once did I ever even get a "thank you" for my service.
Looking back, it's kinda like Stockholm Syndrome.
@@raymond1868
I didn't "get in the way of *MY blessing* ".
I got in the way of god's blessing for me. That was GOD'S Blessing, not mine.
MY blessing for me would have been a hell-of-a-lot better than the PB I got!
Where was my free choice?? I was only 12. I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.
I was TOLD what my blessings would be. No choice there...
Before my blessing i talked to the man giving it to me for a bit, and i told him i was an artist. In my blessing it said if i make art that prompts the spirit in people that i will be a successful artist, which was my dream at the time. I was really depressed and suicidal and all my art was really dark. I felt so guilty about it. I stopped drawing because i couldn’t get myself to draw something that “brought the spirit”. After i left i got into art again and was able to produce a lot of stuff. i found my inner artist again and fell back in love with creating. Now i make erotic paintings of women cause I’m gay lmaooo
That’s cool as hell!! Holy cow I’m so happy for you!!!
I mean its entirely possible for dark art to inspire the spirit in people. Some of my most powerful aspects of my testimony are how well I can see the adversary working against me. Maybe the erotic part is a bit more of an obsession/ addiction that is developed as we knock our heads against all the things we think will bring us happiness in our lives. Embrace that spiritual connection with your dark side, and make some art, that allows the Gift God Gave you to speak truth to the hearts of people who only you can understand!!
Bringing the joyous spirit of erotica for the gaydies 😊
@@evansmind244 i think it is bizarre that you embrace dark themes in art, yet devalue sexual themes as addiction and obsession born of fake happiness. Art is an expression of human emotion and experience. why should sexuality be separate from that, yet dark themes are totally fine?
I love how this story ended, I'm so happy you're in a better place and yay queer people! 💗
The patriarch called me the wrong name during my blessing.... And than the person who transcribed it left it in the paper copy.
Oh geez, that’s so bad 😬😅😅
I had the same happen at my wedding sealing! He called me the wrong name the entire time we were being sealed. At least three times! My husband used to tell me jokingly, "We are not legally married anyway because I married someone named Kayla." lol
Your mom must have picked the wrong name.
@@giabarrone7422
ROTFLMAO!!
So true!
They've been making up excuses for so long, it has become 2nd nature!
@@ExmoLex Lexi fuck off and leave the church alone . Get a Job.
It seems really scummy that a patriarchal blessing that's portrayed as revelation could tell a woman who may end up facing infertility that if she's just faithful enough, God will bless her with children.
Yet they often hedge their bets and say it in a way that could be childbirth, adoption, or even fostering, like this blessing in the video.
It is.
I agree.
It seems absolutely heartbreaking
instaBlaster.
Your patriarchal blessing isn’t only about things that will happen in your life if you stay faithful to God. It is about the things that will happen to you in heaven. Since our bodies will be perfect in heaven, we will be able to have spirit children. So even if you’re in fertile in this life, you can still have kids in the next life
My Patriarch wouldn't return mine or my bishop's calls for a blessing. I think he got an actual premonition from God that I would leave the church lol
That’s super weird!
Oh wow!!
My patriarchal blessing is one of the things that pushed me out of the church. During our short meeting I answered the questions the way he wanted, not what I wanted and that is what was in my blessing. It also said I would marry who I wanted to. I thought this was the dumbest thing because of course I'm not going to marry someone that I don't want to.
When I got my blessing at 14, my parents told the patriarch that I was super into theatre and did lots of genealogy work, so anything unique or specific in it was related to that. It said that my “talents” would be used to bring the gospel to many people.
Ironically, before I began doubting the church, I had a traumatic experience in theatre that made me unable to perform without having panic attacks. Reading my patriarchal blessing and knowing that I would never live up to it made an already hard thing so much more painful, because I thought I must’ve done something terribly wrong for God not to fulfill his promise. Those “blessings” do real harm 😕
When I was in the ICU in the hospital, my TMB mother thought that reading my blessing would help "buoy me up" during that trial. I had a panic attack listening to that and the nurse even took my phone away because I was spasming so hard it was messing with the machines I was hooked up to. Needless to say, that contributed to breaking my shelf. I agree, the blessings can do some harm.
Aw, I’m sad to hear that. But I get it. I was married to a Special Forces Army man and things were not happy. And for a long time, I couldn’t read it. I’ve since mostly memorized the blessing. What I’ve realized is that all had to happen so I could become a stronger person. Mine is pretty l.o.n.g. So at the end of it, things really get wrapped in a nicer “bow’ so-to-speak. And as long as I do the “Primary Answers”-scriptures, prayers, etc., Church, I am able to feel the Savior’s love for me. But I’m thankful for the bad and crazy times, now. Haven’t always been. Best wishes.
My friends patriarchal blessing said she would go on a mission And she was all excited. A few months later she was pregnant and all the plans were canceled lol
Sometimes revelation takes time. She may go on a mission when she's older, or she could preach in the Spirit World after death. Blessings are special and they aren't fulfilled at once.
Just as with almost all blessings they are contingent upon our faithfulness and actions. blessings can be just as prescriptive as they are descriptive. It's an encouragement to focus on certain aspects or details so that your path isn't dictated by others or by your circumstances, but rather are under your control. No one would argue that getting pregnant as an unmarried teen was a huge life altering circumstance from living in such a way that would be worthy of serving a mission. maybe the blessing was telling her to stay focused on a mission so that she wouldn't fall pregnant as a single teen mom, and she obviously didn't stay focused enough to keep her path in that direction, but was tempted by boys and her life is now altered forever. we may never know what she could have accomplished or done down that alternative path or who she would now be. There is a reason as to why they call patriarchal blessings personal scripture. it's meant to be guidance for you to listen to and follow, not unalterable prophecy.
Hopefully your friend escaped that cult.
@@@scottb4509
I had no clue that there are actual current members watching and even commenting on these videos. But I hope you know by doing this you are open to the discussion now as this is a public platform. I want to point out your reasoning as its circular and leads to no truth being found, as from what I understand from what you said is that this thing can be true but only if you make it true. Its like saying, "you will be the CEO of a major company someday but only if you do the right things to become that CEO." Your premise is your conclusion and is a logical fallacy.
You should check this out and tell me if you can answer any of these and get back to me.
read.cesletter.org/
@@scottb4509 ,
Just go away, scott, go learn about how the Book of Abraham has been universally condemned as a FAKE, a FRAUD, a cheesy punky total of crap. Even well-established Mormon apologists have had to RELUCTANTLY admit that it is a total fabrication of Joseph Smith's delusional brain...
When mormons say sacred that means secret.... Great video again. God bless everyone...
Hardly, it's all online,everyone is entitled to an opinion but so much has been slightly twisted. Yes to members their faith is sacred, garments is online temples is online the critiqued history is online. No member when I joined was blind to all the rough stuff which is switstsd out slightly online, I just want to be someone who lives right with my conscience. That's all we an do whatever our faith
@@chazzabooom
Your faith is in a man. You wear special clothes with symbols on them for protection. Yes us is on the Internet but it was all hidden from everyone for year's. Your cult lied about everything and now they'll change to fit in. God doesn't change his mind. What he says is forever. How many time's has Joe got it wrong? You can worship anyone you want but don't call yourself Christian because you're not.
Mine was 5 pages long, and one line was if you pay your tithing you will gain wisdom. Lol!
Thats true brother if you pay your tithing god will bless you with wisdom to earn money . It happened to me I only did schooling never been in any university still undergraduate but I worked in several MNC where I worked with MBA and Law holders almost same work and same salary eventually I was able to crack interviews .. it's true brother absolutely true God bless you with wisdom
You gained the wisdom that it wasn’t worth it, so it was true after all lol
@@SarutaValentine It's like this crazy paradox!
So when I went on a mission... I was in an area with sister missionaries and we had dinner together with a family. We began talking about how she loved brown kids but couldn’t have any ( she is white) so obviously I asked why? And her companion was like go ahead and tell them, she said her patriarch told her she wouldn’t be happy if she married outside her race... I was like ok... that is weird. This girls patriarch was her grandfather!!!! Like wtf! Like how is that even allowed? So dumb
That's so messed up, but also not that surprising...
Just coincidental. Bound to be when there are so many family members in the church!
@@yeboscrebo4451 This a very disappointing thing to read. I have had many experiences in being in relationships with people of different economic and racial backgrounds. We are all the same!!! For real! Oh, and I have a son who is mixed race. I did not have problems with his father (who is deceased) because of our diverse backgrounds. How much his family had in common with mine was the reality, even though we came from different backgrounds.
@@yeboscrebo4451
Not only has it worked for me but it has worked again and again. And it has worked for several members of my family including the members of my family who live successfully in different countries with their spouses of differing backgrounds. I read it the same way; be that racial or cultural differences. I simply do not concur with your opinion
That’s so sad! I have 3 black children, a biracial granddaughter, two black granddaughters, and a DIL who was born in Bangladesh. I think they are all beautiful and wonderful.
i think a lot of the stuff that happens in these is also confirmation bias. my moms patriarchal blessing said that she would have kids with disabilities, so when she was dating to get remarried she found someone with disabled kids and married him two weeks after they met. they almost got divorced four years ago, but she decided to stay in the marriage because of that “prophecy.” ive never seen her so constantly stressed and unhappy.
wtf. this one.. takes the cake & im so sorry for her
That's fucking horrible. I'm sorry. The Church causes so much unhappiness and stress!
Mine said, "honor your mother because she was brought to death's door bringing you into the world".
I'm adopted. I've never met my birth mother. :-(
Evil B.S.
Daniel Devereaux finding your biological mother would be something interesting to know then.
Who is your birth mother?
Heavenly Father is telling you directly to get in touch with this noble ,brave ,soul who brought you forth into mortality, and honor , love and respect her. Learn her story ! She deserves that !
It's a common phrase used in blessings - at least it was when I got mine.
@@rosenadsady3560 "Heavenly Father is telling you directly to get in touch with this noble ,brave ,soul who brought you forth into mortality, and honor , love and respect her. Learn her story ! She deserves that !"
- again - gaslighting. Church members and authorities do it all the time.
Mine told me I'd have the comforts of life if I always payed my tithing. Now that's what I call a scam.
No come on it told you to pay tithing to get comforts of life. NO way no way let me see this document. That would be fraud that can be used in court.
Mine told me to be a faithful tithe payer so I would not "burn"
@@elizabethharris8172 wow, fuck that
@@carlroberts7563 That's a fairly standard clause in lots of patriarchal blessings
@@elizabethharris8172 Hahahah! Jeez, religion is so whack. And people in modern times still believe....why? Cause they want something to believe in. It can't be enough that we are here and get one life we are responsible for, and there may not be an afterlife so treat people how you'd like to be treated. Whether people believe in something or not, that's a fundamental rule, and the rest we won't know till we go. Like Donnie Darko says "it's absurd" we won't know till we die, so debating it is absurd.
The old fellow divined that I am "Descended from the tribe of Ephraim, and people of the North." I wonder how he did that! I'm blond, blue-eyed and so white that I get a sunburn when I open the fridge.
Sounds like something from Frozen II. 😂😂
There are some blue eyed blonde girls living as nomads in the north. I watched a documentary as researchers were investigating why there were blue eyed blonde girls because genetically that shouldn’t be so in those areas they were at. It was quite fascinating.
rationalguy 7
@@koltoncrane3099 You missed his point
up until around 8000 years ago, all of Europe was dark skinned. The Blue eyes goes back to a single person that had a mutation. So everyone with light colored eyes is related to that person.
Also I pretty sure all Patriarchs do is Cold Read. There's a term for it and it's used by conartists, like psychics and salesmen.
That's why they call it a "reading". I worked at a metaphysical shop and was astounded by how no one caught onto that.
They also talk to the parents to find out all they can, so it's not just cold reading.
It doesn't sound directive enough to even be a cold reading. Just: boy= go on a mission, be a leader. Girl = get married, have babies, maybe 'use your talents to spread the gospel'. They don't really need a lot from the person getting the blessing at all.
Built in gaslighting feature at the tail end of these blessings. Kinda like mormon airbags. LOL
I remember a huge scandal from maybe 30 years ago. A patriarch got in SOOOO much trouble for giving the same blessing to maybe 200 people 🤣🤣🤣 I get it now lol. It is alot like a horoscope! I never thought of it that way.
That is too funny! Any possibility of a news story or firsthand account of that scandal? I'd love to look into it more if there was anything written down.
@@ExmoLex I honestly feel like I'm going crazy. I cant find anything right now. I'm starting to think it's just a myth that was spread around. Kind of like when missionaries are asked if mormons have horns. Haha
It must be hard to come up with that many different things to say.
@@devinup3981 I'm sure they get some kind of training to do it. Or they call certain people who are good at making up stuff ha
my mom's patriarchal blessing said i would be famous someday. still not famous yet lmao
I can help you become famous. - Satan
Psychedelic Unicorn
Based on your faith It doesn’t mean anything if you don’t keep the promise.
10 I, the Lord, am bound when ye do what I say; but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise. (D & C 82)
Lmao, mine said that too. I'm an ex-mormon
It's because you were unworthy...it's all your fault! lol :)
Meggie Le prove it
One of my young women leaders told me (when I was in the church) that her patriarchal blessing told her she would have “an abundance of daughters”. And she had 7 sons. No daughters. And she told me she felt like I was one of her “spiritual daughters” because she was my young women’s leader and I was the beehive president at the time.
When her sons get married their wives become her daughters. God bless
How about granddaughters and great granddaughters and daughters-in-law.
@@makeupmoney5150 lmfaoooo 🤣 whatever floats your boat I guess ☠️😂
@@monabiehl6213 this comment was literally 2 years ago 😂 the TBM’s really that mad? 🤣☠️
@@makeupmoney5150 mental hopscotch at its finest.
I never felt worthy to get mine or worthy to pass or bless the sacrament. So much shame and guilt. No more.
I’m glad you’re out, the shame is one of the worst things about the church.
I always made sure I was not wearing a tie or white shirt because I never felt worthy to pass or bless the sacrament. Turns out I was just a normal teenager. I am so glad I left the church.
@@jaredmitchell1302 in my ward they always gave out assignments at the beginning of class so I always showed up to class late on purpose so I wouldn't have to do it. Looking back I realize that I likely wasn't worthy anyway, but I did it because I was terrified to speak in front of people. But that doesn't mean that the shame is necessarily external. I was judging myself far more than anyone else was. I get that the judgy culture is very prevalent in Mormonism but I also know that we often times project our judgment of ourselves onto others, as if it was actually them judging us. This happens more than we think it does. which in and of itself is actually us judging them more than it is them judging us.
I totally agree. Sometimes we believe others are judging us when they aren’t. I’ve definitely seen judgement though by Mormons especially when an inactive member came to church back when I was in high school. I was the only person at church to speak to him. In a little town everyone knows everything about everyone. It does seem that Mormons are less judgy outside of Utah. There really is a culture thing in Utah. But then again there’s a culture specific in the Philippines where 80% of people are catholic. There’s judgement everywhere but less I find in large cities with a huge mix of diversity.
I felt so much shame for not devoting MORE of my time. I was 1st counselor in relief society, went to the temple several times a week, read my scriptures an hour a day, taught 4 Sunday lessons, etc. But still it wasn't enough. Cult.
I’d love to see Lori Vallow’s and Chad Daybell’s.
Wouldn't that be interesting? Perhaps he would have said something such as "you will find that you will spend most of your life in a small room with a toilet and a sink."
@@kkheflin3
🤣😂
The blessing is a road map not a crystal ball. You make your choices in life and will end up where you end up because of those choices.
@@icecreamladydriver1606 The “blessing” is a crock of shit used to control young minds. Every female given the “blessing” of being a wife and mother and supporting ( indoctrinating) her children.
Yes!!!!
Nothing the Church does is based on Divine Inspiration. Mt PB was generic, my mission call was "It's your turn, do you want to go or not because I have someone else waiting". Your Temple name is just Name of the Day from a list, like what to call a hurricane. I never encountered any incidence of Inspiration - not once.
That's why I left. I finally realized that the lesson I hadn't yet learned from all my experiences, the one that explained them all and tied them all together was one simple one: "The church leaders aren't inspired. Not even a little bit. Not at all." I even tested it out by having weekly visits with a bishop (and sometimes his counselors) where I spoke to him plainly, openly, and honestly only to be told that he wasn't convinced. So one final time, in a meeting with him and both his counselors, I stared at my shoes most the time instead of looking him in the eyes, blinked a lot, lied my ass off, and acted choked up. The 3 of them then told me how much they were overwhelmed with "The Spirit" and impressed with the breakthrough. And that was just the last of many examples in my life of their lack of inspiration or divine guidance.
Mine said if I lived worthy I'd be protected when I travel. I felt the spirit and this brings me back to the opinion I've had since I left, that the God will find you where you are. I think some patriarchs may be in tune enough to relate things they feel spiritually. Some not and a lot of it is repetition across the board. I stayed in the church so long because I felt the spirit. What I realized is my testimony was not of Joseph Smith. It was of Jesus Christ. Once I realized it was not a package deal my life has gotten so much better!
Yes
Same here.
I lied about being worthy to get one and I kid you not I was afraid he was going to put his hands on my head and instantly "know" instead I got the most random generic rambling blessing that was really weird. Like it commended me for following the word of wisdom. (I wasn't) today I'm very happy with my tea and edibles 😂
It’s funny cause mine was altered after it was given to me.
When the guy was giving it to me, he never said anything about me being a wife (I’m a trans man)
But when I got sent the paper form of my blessing it was added in and then expounded upon.
That’s so crazy!
@@123asdhjkcvnm - but whether you record it or not, surely you know it is baloney?
They underrated you! Your mind and heart is genuinely open. You seem like a strong, intelligent, AND kind WORTHY woman. Thanks for being brave enough to share 😎
I’m Hispanic and got Manasseh. Then found out all Hispanics I knew got the same tribe and all the whites got Ephraim. Racism?? 🙄🤔 on another note, I had a lot of the same things as yours, then “gift of discernment”. I certainly had that one cause I discerned the church wasn’t true lol.
cindybelle25 haha is that what my gift of discernment is lol .. I’m still pimo physically in mentally out.
cindybelle25 I’m Hispanic and was a convert at one time. I ended up getting Ephriam, so I’m not sure how that works :\.
Isabella DiBenedetto frankly, maybe the patriarchs in this area were more racist, and just put them all in one “box”. My family members got different tribes and had theirs done elsewhere.
Lol I got that "gift of discernment," too. Like you I used it to see the church is bullshit:P
My girlfriend is from one tribe and her TWIN SISTER is from another tribe. And they are 50% Hispanic.
The whole “blessing” is just one long ass prayer of garbage. Church quotes, church jargon, etc etc.
Non of these words are any different than any horoscope I've seen on Facebook.
My PB blessing was 2 paragraphs and so generic that, even as a “faithful” member, I considered finding out if I could get a new one. I was 26 and divorcing when I got mine and I felt, probably accurately, that the old man patriarch really didn’t like me.
Patriarchal blessings are as reliable as fortune cookies.
dang - you beat me to it re fortune cookies - I'll have to call PB's a Secret Horoscope
- love what you do btw - laughed for a week about you forging Temple Access Bar Codes
Fortune cookies are actually more reliable!
@Mike Norton/NewNameNoah!!!! So good to see YOU here! I miss your fabulous videos on your channel! I refer dozens of people to your channel to watch the temple ordinances for themselves. Thanks to you and Lex and so many others for what you do! Keep up the work.
@@byronofcalgary6985 I laughed also! Forging bar codes on temple recommends was just priceless! So many people jumped all over Mike for doing that. However, when I think of all the "non- worthy" members/ex-mos who got to attend their child's wedding/sealing because of Mike's recommends it REALLY makes me smile. :)
Taking your suggestion I went back and listened to her blessing adding "in bed" after each part. As with fortune cookies, more fun that way.
Mine also said “I had talents not known yet to me. As I am faithful and serve others it will be made known to me”
Also said I’d marry a worthy man and have children that would look up to me. Well... he was a porn addict and not “worthy” to have taken me to the temple. AND I have polycystic ovarian syndrome and couldn’t have kids. I would think HF would know that about me since he made me and knows me individually😉
I also have PCOS. Of course your situation may be different than mine, but I was able to have children with fertility treatments. I hope if you choose to have children, you can. Best wishes!
@@KarinShah Thank you! I’m 49 now, plus had to have full radical hysterectomy 5 years ago. I do have a daughter I adopted and she is now 22. So it all worked out. Ty for your support tho!
Mine also talks about how righteous my husband will be. In the process of getting divorced right now because NNOOOOPE.
@@spookyjupi 😔
@@spookyjupi Lmao! Sorry about getting divorced, that sucks. In my blessing it said I'd have a happy and blessed marriage soon after my mission.... I've never even had a relationship that lasted longer than 6 months and I'm now turning 30 lol
I’m also an ex Mormon. I’m pretty sure the guy who did mine had some sort of stroke during it. It contained a lot of incoherent stuff in it and even my very Mormon parents both got a WTF look on their faces when they read it
@ Blink173! Sounds very much like the old guy who performed my wedding sealing in the temple! The guy couldn't remember either of our names and kept calling us names that were not ours. Not our real names. Not our temple names. But completely different names. So when my husband and I had arguments over the years when we were members of the church he would always say to me "Well.... you know we're really not even married because the names weren't right so we won't even have to get a divorce. We can just walk away!" It was a standing joke for years. Plus the guy was at least 500 years old and was swaying back and forth. My husband was afraid he was going to pitch over the altar. He didn't talk above a whisper and quite a few of my relatives came up to us afterwards and said that they could not hear anything he said. But as we all know who were married in the temple it only takes about two and a half minutes to get married anyway . Very meaningful. I think he would have been better suited to be a worker at the veil. At least if he had pitched over there there would have been plenty of people to catch him instead of just me and my husband!
@@kkheflin3 I've been reading through a lot of comments and keep finding yours. You are REALLY funny. I love reading your stuff. Lol
@@floydfreaktc1 I have to be able to entertain people! I'm a teacher of high school students! Thanks. I try to add a bit of humor where I can. :)
@@kkheflin3 Yes!! I was so disappointed by how short the sealing ceremony was. I had a similar reaction when I was baptized as a kid: “That’s it? I’ve waited all this time FOR THIS?” For a while after the wedding, I was scared that I was actually breaking the law of chastity because CLEARLY a ceremony that short couldn’t possibly be legitimate.
@@angelenapulis9083 I know! Non members get so upset (which I can certainly understand now) about not being able to go to the temple to see their family members get "married." They don't understand it is NOT a "wedding." It is a ten minute thing where the couple can't even look at each other. I went to many over 38 years in the church. The sealer always tells the couple to look at HIM during the sealing. Dressed up in those bizarre clothes with your husband looking like a baker and your beautiful wedding dress covered with temple clothes and ugly veil. They see the bright eyed couple come out of the temple in "real" wedding clothes and assume they missed seeing them walk down the aisle etc. If only they knew......(Now they can. Go to Mike Norton's Newname Noah' channel. He taped one of them.) So disheartening.
Mine told me il have children I already knew I was infertile
Rejoice in my posterity....i was born with no uterus
Sussanne Randall gross 🤢🤮
Sorry to hear that but not everyone has children I have none of mine but hopefully one day..
@ashleys videos.... The church would simply say that you could have children by adoption is my guess. Shaking my head....
Some things happen in the next life
My parents took me and my older sister on the same day for our patriarchal blessings. I wasn't particularly paying attention, because at twelve, I was already drifting away. This was in the 50's and I was just getting into Civil Rights, and repelled by the racism in the church. On the way home, my sister cried and said my blessing was better than hers, so I told her, "No problem, you can have mine. I don't want it anyway, cause it's a bunch of hooey." Needless to say, I fully left soon thereafter, although my mother, who was a cultist obscessive, beat me over the head with church doctrine for the rest of my life until she died at age 97. My sister stayed faithful until the day she died six years ago.
As an non Mormon, so as someone looking in from the outside, I suspect that you are 100% correct. In my experience most denominations of Christianity that have these "don't tell anyone else, its just between God and the leadership and you" they do that because they don't want people comparing notes.
Mormonism isn't Christian
It’s very disturbing how these Christian denominations teach secrecy 😒 I love God, I love Jesus. Ugh Christian followers annoy me! None of them should be talking.
@@annr3800 exactly 💯 true Christians know better.
Are you sure you weren’t reading mine???!!!😂😂
Almost identical to mine, just worded slightly different.
Yours: you were faithful in the presence of your Heavenly Father
Mine: you were faithful in the preexistence
Yours: by prophecy and revolution Ephraim was given the responsibility to take the leadership of the gathering of the house of Israel in the latter days and be a great moving force in the preparation and restoration of the gospel. You will be a part of that important work.
Mine: inasmuch as you are of this lineage, you have an additional responsibility to be available to serve your fellow men and assist our leaders in the work that is going forward now preceding the time of our saviors return.
Yours:I bless you that you will be grateful of the challenges that you will have a head of you, you where picked and chosen because you have the capacity and potential to do great things.
Heavenly Father will protect you, you will never be tempted beyond your ability to withstand the temptation of Satan. You will stay close to the spirit
Mine: be honest, virtuous and trustworthy in all things, and you will be blessed. You will experience in your lifetime some difficulties and problems. When these times come to you, remember that we are here to be tested and they are part of our mortal experience. To learn to obey the commandments and do the will of Heavenly Father, even in times of stress and adversity.
Yours: if you live worthy you will find a wonderful companion. This is one of the most important decisions you must make in this life. You must know for sure that you are making the right choice and you can know this by the prompting of the spirit
Mine:as the time comes that you anticipate an eternal companion, attend the church classes and functions that are offered. Call upon your Heavenly Father and follow the counsel of your parents, and you will be led to a worthy young man who will take you to the temple to be married for time and eternity and receive the blessings that are given in that holy place.
Yours: at the right time in your life you will be a mother and Heavenly Father wants you to bring choice spirits into your home to teach them the gospel and raise them righteously to accomplish the purpose of their life
Mine: you and your husband will be blessed with the opportunity to prepare tabernacles for spirits that your Heavenly Father will send to your home. Encourage your companion to assist you in teaching, loving, nurturing and setting a good example for your children. As you are faithful in this calling, they will follow your example and teachings and will be worthy to return back to their Heavenly Father. I bless you that you will have joy, happiness and peace in your home, and that your home with be a safe haven for your family amidst the problems of the world.
Your: (talents)
Mine: your Heavenly Father has bless you with many talents and with much ability. As you mature and gain knowledge and understanding, additional talents and abilities will be granted unto you. You will be able to accomplish your righteous desires here. He has, also blessed you with the gift of faith, wisdom, knowledge, discernment, and with a desire to follow the principles of the gospel and counsel of our leaders. As you do this, joy and happiness will be yours, and you will gain a strong testimony of the divinity of the gospel and of Jesus Christ and his blessings.
I would have just sent a picture of mine but I wasn’t sure how to do that. So I just transcribed what you said and put down the what mine said.
As I was typing everything it dawned on me how it was so demanding. YOU WILL, YOU MUST. Mine even uses OBEY. It really bothered me.
Wow. Yeah. Patriarchal blessings get so vague and they're so similar at the same time. Total scams
When you said the rumors part, it reminded me of when I was LDS and we were talking about Patriarchal Blessings in Young Women’s. There was a story of a young man who was going on his mission and wanted to get his blessing before he went out. His family wanted to read it or learn what it said and he said no and wouldn’t let them read it or tell them anything it said. He later died two weeks out on his mission and when his family got his stuff, they read that it said he would die on his mission but he would have all the blessings of exhalation. At the time I though “wow. How amazing to have that faith. I’d be terrified.” Now I both giggle at my naïveté and want to yell at that. Like, dude. Wtf.
Could be a coincidence, but based on research about near death experiences, etc. I think everyone has some capacity for spiritual inspiration whether they're in the Church or not, through connecting with other spirits. My point is the patriarch may have been inspired to say that he would die on his mission, but that doesn't mean that the Church has the priesthood! It means maybe he should have heeded the warning.
He went to the other side to preach the gospel to the ones in spirit prison.
Mormon horoscope! I love it!
😀😀😀😀😀😀
What about those PB's that says you will live to see the second coming. Have any of those come true yet?
@A Tangerine Ya'll realize they mean the Second Coming, when the Righteous will be resurrected, as spoken in the BIBLE?
@A Tangerine I know, I'm sorry, I was just frustrated with people who choose to make fun of my beliefs. So, I apologize. But don't ever call me a "dummy".
My grandma's said she'd live to see the Second coming and she passed nearly 15yrs ago...... So. Another dead end on truth
A member was given her blessing and didn’t “feel” it was for her, she asked for a new one and well, she got a new and totally different blessing. 🤯
????? Wow!!! 🙄
Hahahaah!!! Then the church has to be true. Lol
@@floydfreaktc1 exactly!
@@Tartarsauce84 😳
@@Tartarsauce84 oh wow!
My patriarchal blessing was an emotional roller coaster for me. I think I got it when I was 19 and living in a densely populated Mormon area I was asked constantly why I didn’t have it. I was worried about what it would contain and when I got it, and whether I was ready to receive it. When I got it I was shocked. I got less than a page of blessing a total of 3 paragraphs one of which was a introduction similar to lex’s and another was the conclusion that was basically the same as lex’s with the morning of the resurrection and what not. It also included both personal, nothing about my spouse or children, callings anything. It had a short section about being part of the tribe of ephraim, them almost verbatim the per about talents and missionary work. That was it the whole thing. So I started asking around to all my friends the shortest other blessing I heard of was a page and a half, but basically everyone had 2.5 to 3 pages. Everyone else had a section about callings and marriage, it made me feel like god didn’t care about me or expected/prepared anything for me. But now I now it’s flack and it’s comforting to know that so many people have the same rehashed stuff. Thank you for coming to my TEDex-mormon talk
I’m guessing your patriarch assumed that you didn’t get it sooner bc you didn’t care. That might be why he didn’t give you a more detailed”blessing”.
Mine was fairly similar to yours. I remember my patriarch sitting down to get to know me better before. I mentioned my favorite class was English and I enjoyed writing. Wouldn't you know those two things showed up in the blessing. Mine talked about my future partner, too, and it said some vague thing about "it'll take a bit before you get married... and then you will." Like you, my blessing made it sound like my only real purpose in life was to have kids. Having read my sister's blessings, a similar sentiment was in theirs, too.
Mine said I would marry a stalwart young man, and that I made promises to some people in the premortal life that I would bring them into the church. Welp, I guess I'll figure out that broken promise when I get to it. Oh it also said I would choose a profession that would help bring Jesus to people. Everything else was the same. I read my dads, it was like half a paragraph that said, "You'll have trials, don't stray from god." He left my immigrant mother with no job and 4 kids to take care of so I guess PBs all around aren't worth much to anyone.
I only remember other than there was nothing in mine about being a mom (which kinda worked out cuz I don't want kids) one line:
"You are going to be a very important leader in the world." I legit thought that meant I was gonna be president someday. Haha. I have zero leadership skills, have never even been in management or anything like that whatsoever.
HAHA HAHA HAHA! I love that line you said " I legit thought I was going to be president"
@@floydfreaktc1 I was such a dork
The church is good about making you feel like you are never doing enough.
That's the plan. A good helping of induced guilt and a dollop of fear are great culty control techniques!
That’s why 80% of Utah are on antidepressants, and lds mothers look soooo exhausted.
I’m sorry you feel that way, but that’s not at all true.
Mine had really only one sentence that can be construed as “unique” for a PB. “Because of your integrity, you will find favor in the eyes of your employer, and that will be more valuable to you than gold.”
I’m a medical student, so this definitely hasn’t happened yet. 😂
Thank you for sharing your story! I am binge watching you. I was a convert, at 18. My mother was a born again Christian and would not even speak to me on Sundays when I went to church. When I met with the patriarch, he spoke with me and asked about my journey to the LDS faith. The bulk of my blessing dealt with my mother and how my spirit will lead her to the true church, by my example. Well. I no longer speak to my mother, and I am no longer a member of the church. Like you, the contradictions and smoke in mirrors was too much. Thanks for making others feel normal and okay about their exit.
Joanna, we have a lot in common. I too was a convert at 18. My mother was so upset about it, she demanded I leave college in Utah and come home immediately. She couldn’t stand Brigham Young and the church.
Maybe the reason they don’t want people discussing them is because several people have read their ancestors P.B., which said that they would live to see Christ’s return......well.....clearly, that didn’t happen. So they said that Patriarchs were encouraged to refrain from saying that anymore. Oops! Too late, mine says that too!
Mine did too! Lol.
"which said that they would live to see Christ’s return."? ..... That means they will be resurrected when Jesus returns.
@@michelamar-khodja8591 bro, are you defending them? Because if your not then we cool. 😊
@@sariahyarber3662 Well you're still alive 🤞🏽
@@Applest2oApples yeah, so where a lot of people who's p-blessing said the same thing.
I love your hair! :)
Rachel Workman aww thank you! Lol it is kinda faded but still fun
Exmo Lex super fun! I wish I had the courage to dye my hair a fun color:) it really suits you!:)
This "blessing" is a string of Barnum Statements.
Darn. I am not Mormon; so I never got a patriarchical blessing.
Although I've been enough of a gadfly that I may have gotten a few patriarchs heaving curses in my direction.
I've heard Mormon leaders say really nasty things about non-Mormons and ex-Mormons. A segment on patriarchical cursing might be interesting.
yintercept lol I’ve never heard of a patriarchal curse, but I wouldn’t doubt that kind of thing probably happened closer to the founding of the church in the 1800’s. Sounds like something Brigham Young would have condoned.
@@ExmoLex There used to be an oath of vengeance in the Endowment Ceremony.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_vengeance
Along with consecrating every ounce of your being to the church, you would curse the United States. Wikipedia says the words are: " You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease to pray to Almighty God to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the third and fourth generation."
It is useful to know the curse when one encounters people who think Mormons are more patriotic than other people.
I suspect that the early Mormons let loose a whole slew of curses.
PS: I had met Mormons who threw curses in the direction of Obama. I suspect that curses aren't in fashion.
@@yintercept4612 Is that the blood oath that led to that huge massacre in the mountains of Utah, where the Mormons slaughtered an entire wagon train, then stole everything of value, including their babies?
I believe so, but there have been later incidents of the blood Oath even up to the 20th century. They had a organization of Killers from within the church that targeted and took out who ever Joseph Smith felt was a danger to his power. even families who were considered the Gentiles that he felt were enemies of the church. They were contract killings, from being shot in the dark, or having your house and barn set on fire with people and animals still in them - usually done at night. It is downright frightning the kind of power elders welded. Members were too scared to voice any questions or opposition knowing that to do so would result in being a target for execution. The men who rode from place to place were zealots God's Avenging Angels who punished the wicked, and crack shots with a rifle. There is a great Western movie on this history , if you go to Western movies on Mormonism you will find some. It was very well done, a killer comes to the realisation, that what he is doing is wrong, is unjustified murder and the problems that caused him. Well done movie, based I think on a true story.
Mine was done so poorly, that I googled of I could get a redo. I thought maybe it was me 😞. I litterally just left the church and so all of this has helped me. I kept thinking I wasn't "worthy". So happy now that I know the truth!!
I never understood why mine said I was a direct descendant of Ephraim but everyone else in my family was adopted. It kinda makes sense now that I realize it's all made up. I can't believe we all just accept the total lies we're told
billiondollardan right! 🙄
You have the responsibility to bring souls to Jesus Christ. I am living out my blessing right now! If you have it pray before you read it and ask God if it’s really from him.
Ah, the patriarchal blessing. The church's version of the fortune cookie. 😆
For real
It would be very interesting to read Ted Bundy’s PB
Great video Lex! Interestingly, I've talked to quite a few people who left the church when they were in the second half of their life (who had received patriarchal blessings as young people) and realized how totally inaccurate many were simply due to the specificity of them. For example, one acquaintance was told she would be a missionary and sent to Haiti. She was sent to France by the "inspired" leaders in the church (who obviously hadn't checked out her PB in advance). Another was told that she and her husband ("eternal companion") would be married in a temple "in the lands of Nephi within a decade." They were married in a temple in Hawaii as that is where her husband was from. (As you know, the church doesn't claim that Hawaii had ANYTHING to do with the coming forth of the Book of Mormon though they have shifted back and forth over the years as to whether the events took place in North or South America). All of these events in their lives occurred way BEFORE they left the church so the church can't claim their usual fallback position which of course is "the PB only is accurate if you stay worthy, blah blah, blah ." I can't help but believe the leaders have now given some sort of directive to patriarchs to make blessings VERY general now for these reasons. When I listened to yours I can see how generic it is.
But Haitians speak French! /sarc
Just sayin', you probably would have discovered at least one talent from the pre-existence if you had only done what your mom kept on nagging you about and taken those piano lessons! 😜
Hard to believe anyone ever fell for this!
Love your channel Lex! Your upbeat tone is a breath of fresh air
Noah Lee aww thank you!
My mormon friend told me hers.....😳😳😳😳😳😁😁😁
Jennifer Flower tsk tsk tsk 😜
Mine was the same as all the other girls my age (15-17) in my ward. We all had our blessings within a few weeks of each other. One Sunday the other girls were standing outside the Sunday school door waiting, and they were all talking about what was in theirs. I was so so upset… I cried A LOT because “God” didn’t care enough to say something different to me! My mom said “Well if you’re righteous we’re all worthy of the same blessings” - her explanation of why this happened. I didn’t ever buy that.
When I lost my first child at age 26 (she was 6, from a rare brain tumor), I went through that dang blessing at least 100 times with a fine tooth comb trying to find ANYTHING that would help me through that. Guess what? Not one thing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Yep it’s fake. (I left the church at age 32.)
So sorry for your loss,I hope you're taking care of yourself and doing what's best for you ♥️
So sorry for your loss. I can’t even imagine how rough that would be.
I know to think of losing a child at any age makes me think, “I think I’ll just die myself, now.” My sis lost a 12-year-old to rare form of cancer. They were so friggin’ strong and my nephew was too. Exemplary, actually. May the Lord continue to comfort you. My sis and husband say, “People tell me, ‘Good thing you have other children.’” But as u know, it leaves a cannon-size hole inside your soul. May He comfort you and come hold you tight on the days/nights it seems too difficult to get through.
So many people called it a Patriarticle Blessing. Don't worry, I always corrected them.
Well that’s almost exactly the same as mine apart from being a mother because I’m a man mine was done in the 86 wow no new material. I’ve been following your videos very informative
I got mine when I was 16/17. I remember being super excited to finally have something that was just mine (I'm the youngest of 8 kids). I was told basically the same thing.
I left the church because I didn't feel that it was right. I'm Wiccan now. I want to find a copy of it in order to read it to my husband. He's Catholic raised. Lol Sometimes when I tell him things he's just like "Wow. That's bazaar!
So you left a esoteric satanic church for a blatant satanic church
@@LizEsc I was doing some research on near death experiences and noticed that two people who used to be Mormon (and others) before their experience preferred Wicca afterward because they believe that everything is interconected (near death experiences very often describe a feeling of "oneness").
It's not secret. It's sacred 😅 rather don't share because people will think we are weird 😉
They'll say that you're from Ephram if they don't receive any revelation with the information of your actual specific tribe. It does't surprise me then that EVERYBODY is from Ephram
Why do I want blessing from any man when Jesus Christ is always be with us? Only a cult will want you to depend on them to tell you what or how to live your life
Lien Trinh so all religion
14:49 Holy shit! I had the exact same question! It was shut down in church really quick! I wanted to know why Christ came to this planet and not another, and the answer I got was that our planet was the only one wicked enough to kill Christ. Haha what bullshit.
I almost had a PB. When I got there I asked the guy where the crystal ball and tarot cards were. I got promptly escorted to the door. Thanks for that memory... Made my day!
dc45acp I’d pay to see that happen 😂
@@ExmoLex Me too! Priceless.
"It's not secret, it's sacred!" LOL that's such a meme
Looking back on it, having served in the bishopric, I just now realized that I never received a patriarchal blessing. Guess it's not a job requirement. Whew.....
I bet you could go get one now. LOL hate for you to miss out on that life opportunity!
So how did you serve in the bishopric? I saw one of your comments on another channel where you said that you slept with 400 women after seeing boobs in the sears catalog. So how did you go from that to serving in the bishopric. It sounds like it would be an interesting story, which is why I'm asking.
@@claytoncornia4156 Where was that channel? That sounds wild
400 women?! Those are great numbers.
@@floydfreaktc1 I think it was on one of the brother Jake videos. I don't remember which one now since that was over a month ago. I was on a binge watching lots of Mormon videos and he made that comment. He said he was in the military so it was easy to get laid.
Oh my gosh I just remembered when I was *14* years old, a 17 year old creep who i was not dating because "it wasnt allowed to date before you were 16" told me that he got a prompting that the woman he would marry that was mentioned in his patriarchal blessing was me, good glory that whole thing was messed up. He also tried to kiss me once and when i said no he was like "yeah you're right, the spirit told me i shouldnt have done that but i didnt listen. anyway why didnt you kiss me? give me a reason"
in the talk before the blessing I told the patriarch that I don't really want to get married and that does not define me as a woman and in the blessing it says I will get married and have kids(naturally or adopted) and in the afterlife. and I am like...just having kids isn't the sole purpose of a woman.
All mine said was "kids would come into your home". But not that I would have kids. I guess he got that part right. I mean, my neices and nephews came into my house a few times. Lol
But just think! If you would have stayed in the church you would have been able to continue to be continually pregnant throughout eternity to populate your own planet! Raising your spirit children! I always thought the men got a better deal in the afterlife..
@@kkheflin3 when men make the rules they always make them for themselves first
@@extrabadluck Ain't that the truth!
It sounds like the one that gives the blessing performs some cold reading.
Yep, that's what I deduced from the "patriarch" having to speak with the person beforehand.
“You could do this or this. It’s between you and god tho so pray about it 😌” -all patriarchs
My family always excused those who didn't fulfill their patriarchal blessing by saying they will do it in heaven.
Me: "Didn't {insert dead family here}'s patriarchal blessing say they would serve a mission... because they didn't."
Mom: "They are completing their patriarchal blessing by serving as a missionary to those in spirit prison."
I just accepted that logic back then but now I see that this logic could extend to almost anything you could do. If you live forever then at one point you will probably do everything and certainly every vague thing guessed at by some old man.
I heard similar things as a kid!
@@ExmoLex Yes they do have a contingency plan! If you don't have children on this Earth don't worry about it because you'll be able to have children throughout all of eternity to populate the other planets and be eternally pregnant which to me (even though I enjoyed it when I had my three children) would be a real downer to have to do for eternity. If you don't go on a mission here don't worry about it you can be a missionary for all of eternity. Doesn't that sound like fun?
This kid who was dying of cancer I knew talked to the prophet on the phone about this he said it would happen in the next life
Yours was SO different from mine! Mine told me I couldn’t have kids.. which absolutely devastated me. Sadly its been 11 years and that part is true. Idk why the patriarch said that.
Well i am a faithful active member and getting ready for my PB and I'm dating a woman (lds only ) who can't conceive I have a great desire to be a father great desire I feel your pain sister
Mine said music was going to be a major part of my life. I don't have a musical bone in my body 😂
Mine said something a little similar about talents.
'Now you have talents within you that you exercised in your first estate, and are with you still. Some are in abeyance, pending the time of the Lord; some you already exercise; others will emerge that you were totally unaware of. And depending on the righteousness of your life, depending upon where you are, what you are doing, and the needs of your callings those talents shall be made manifest. However, one talent is more particular within you, even your artistic ability...'
I had disclosed that I thought I was a good artist in our little chat before the blessing, when he asked me to name a talent that I had.
I talked about how I like to learn foreign languages in the little interview before. Guess who apparently has the gift of tongues 🙄
Same here. I told the patriarch that I was interested in acting. Guess what? The Lord admonishes me to pursue acting very carefully as Satan has a firm grip in this field.
The rest of my blessing was blah blah. Go on a mission, marry in the temple, have a numerous posterity. I also supposedly have the blood of Ephraim in my veins. And I'm white. To quote the late Jim Nabors 'Surprise, surprise, surprise!'.
@@andreapack5372 Hahahahah!! Shits ridiculous
It is not my intention to be snide or sarcastic here. I am simply telling the truth of a personal experience.
I am not, nor have ever been Mormon. But this patriarchal blessing sounds very much like a card reading I got from a friend of mine. Of course, this was bogus. It was just something he would do for entertainment and many of us friends of his would just have a good time. But, I tell you, some of the things he said are the same as some of the things in your patriarchal blessing -- marriage, family and spiritual purpose. Not word for word, but certainly promise to promise.
Yep. Not only is your blessing probably similar to the blessings others receive, it are even similar to card readers that don't have the faintest connection with Mormon.
Your effort to get a copy of that was worth it, even to at least this one non Mormon. Maybe others too.
Just thought you would like to know.
They are called Barnum Statements. General statements written in such a way so as to sound very specific to an individual but when examined, are very general and could apply to anyone.
@@barbjoz63 -- Barnum?! Oho, I love it. I think ol' P.T. would too.
@@howlandowlle7953 it's a real thing. Look it up: Barnum Statements. And it is named after PT Barnum.
@@barbjoz63 -- Don't get me wrong. I believed it was a real thing. That's just what makes it so much better.
I am going to try to remember this term. It fits so many things and is so perfect.
Actually -- thank you.
It's because it's probably based off tarot card and divining. All forbidden by God
One of the lines was similar to mine.
I am always so surprised by how many Mormons come here (and other exmo sites) to defend the church when they are not supposed to listen to or read anti church redridoric 🤔🤔🤔 isn't that a sin??
I got my PB after I had been baptised about a year, I was a convert. I was told I was from the tribe of Dan. I used to love that I was in such a unique tribe. Now I’m like its just rubbish.
Vicki McKay get DNA
BTLFAEN why?
Mine talked about my gift of kindness that God gave me, that I was going to cloth children with mortal bodies (it was very wierd stated in that way), that I was going to be a leader and needed to be an influence for young women in my later years, and talked about I needed to read the scriptures to determine my vocation in life (also wierdly stated and extremely vague). Also that it was all conditional if I stayed worthy. Ours were quite similar hope this helps 🙂 thanks for your videos it really helps knowing there are people going through the same experience I am!
Ha, I had weird wording around having kids, too! It said they would “spring forth” from me. I assumed that meant I would have a quick labor or something?
Sounds like mine wtf😂
I had the talent thing too!! It said something like “you have other talents you haven’t discovered yet that you’ll develop” 🤣
What insight-
Same!! I think those exact words.
My patriarchal blessing was a general very generic template copied from something else..... but the dude varied it.
What's the website to have your records removed? I need to do that still
quitmormon.com
@@ExmoLex thank you!
Lol mine said I was awesome in the pre-existence too...and from Ephraim...also worthy companion and "unto this union, you will have children", also a teacher and a leader. and OMG even the be blessed with the spirit to help make decisions.
Ephraim had one hell of a lineage since every white person I've ever known is told they come from the tribe of Ephraim. Every Hispanic I know comes from the tribe of Manasseh.
Wow, I never thought about there being more than one heavenly mother.
Also, I 100% believed they were getting “revelation”. I felt betrayed when I realised it wasn’t true.
Mine said I would meet a special handmaiden of the Lord through a friend and marry her in the temple for all eternity. I met her at church, we married in the temple, and she left me for another man and told lies. Cool! I don't judge her but hey the Lord doesn't really tell a patriarch anything at all. God obviously has no plan for us. We plan our own life!
James J 😟sorry
You could still meet a handmaiden and be married in the temple even though the first marriage didn’t work.
Wow this is new info for me. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.