Speaking as someone with no musical instrument skills who is finally getting into GarageBand as a starting point for music creation, this tutorial is fantastic to set me on the right path to “humanizing” my synth guitar sounds.
My go-to electric guitar sound is a kontakt library from impact soundworks, shreddage. I know it's a metal forward library, but it's a raw guitar library, treating that library with pop forward tone is resulting quite good end product
You forgot to do the slightly bend down notes when you switch cords on the original guitar I heard it . Meaning when you slide your fingers to the next cord it makes like a slightly bend down or when you switch cord upwards there is a small band upwards at the time you switch while you slide your fingers. Upwards. If you can re -create that affect when you slide your fingers. Other than the squeaky sound. Forget it that would be the best of the best.
Hey... thanks for this video. It would have been nice to have links to the two guitar sample libraries, but what you taught here was excellent... great for a beginner in MIDI guitar programming like me. Again... thanks!
im only half way through your video right now and it has already helped me enormously. Many thanks indeed. I look forward to getting back to watch the rest after my amp pedal excursions :) prompted by your sharings
Just wonderful, I been tryin to find out about "free electricity sound effects" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Diyarah Electric Freedomify - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my friend got excellent results with it.
Hi Shane. Could you do one of these tutorials for acoustic guitars? I'm struggeling to get pro sounding quality out of my acoustic guitar. And cant find any good and on point tutorials for it.
@@EchoSoundWorks Look forward to it. Maybe also do a video on programming guitar chords compared to piano chords. It was something you touched on in the video but i'm still a little unclear of (as i don't play the guitar). Thanks Shane.
Halion 6 has loads of decent acoustic and electric guitar sounds and even some of the guitars in the Kontakt factory library are usable like the Jazz guitar. Even some of the guitars in my sound modules like my Roland SC-88 Pro and Roland JV-1080 can still sound realistic if these same sort of tutorials are applied and even amp simulation elevates the quality of the electric guitars on my sound modules. Another option is to use a mix of real and midi guitars wherever possible as I have guitars but I can only play a limited set of chords. But then take the steel guitar on my Roland U-220, it sounds nice with finger pick style playing but not so great for emulating strumming. There are also loads of free guitar VSTs and free and low cost guitar libraries and even some of the free guitar VSTs can sound half decent. Ample Guitar Lite sounds almost as good as any paid VST.
I've been enjoying making DAW music for 4 years now, and in general, he is right. One thing I might disagree with though I could be in the wrong, is the the amps he mentioned, Guitar Rig, AmpliTube, and THU, had LOUSY sound for me, even though they are considered the best . When I transferred my DAW stuff to a new laptop, I didn't even reload those 3. What Worked for me was Evolution Strawberry and Evolution Rock Standard by Orange Tree Samples (he has one of the Evolution products at 1:21). He is right, I learned with Evolution, you turn off as many settings as possible to get a basic LesPaul or Strat dry sound. Then, build from there with distortion, or Spring Reverb, cabinets and so on. Lotta "Playing Around" required. Even with Evolution, many of the settings sound horrible. The "Lovely Intro" setting in Evolution Rock Standard sounds amazingly clean and nice as a starter sound similar to a dry Les Paul. The second part to my sound is to add the S-Gear Virtual Guitar Amp plugin to a track that has my Evolution samples. This is where I differ from what he is saying, in that my Evolution has some amp and cabinet settings on, and my S-Gear has amp settings on as well, but it really depends on how all the interconnected settings sound together. The pain is someone can do a demo of a product that sounds great, but it sounds horrible on your DAW. {sigh} I found my guitars with an ambiance, slightly distorted sound to be very satisfactory, my clean guitar sounds are pretty easy to make happen, the Rock, high distorted sounds are still hard to get like I want. When I get a sound I like, I save it off as a template so I can pull it up on another song. It's takes some work, but I'm an IT guy, I'd rather do the work here than actually learning to play the guitars I bought {chuckle}. You'll have to learn through trial and error, like I learned many guitar sounds only sound nice when the velocity of your midi data is between 5 and 20. If you have it too high (like velocity 80), the sound is horrible (and with some settings the opposite is true). Lotta moving parts...... On a more encouraging note, IK Multimenia's virtual Bass, MODO Bass sounds good out of the box and you'll have some good bass sounds on Day 1. Fifteen different basses, choice of tube or solid state amp, Old strings vs. New Strings, stress free product. I agree with him also in that acoustic sound is easier to make happen, Native Instruments Picked Acoustic works perfect for me, though a little work is required, but that's the fun of it GOOD LUCK!!!!
Thanks a lot for this video🙌🏻! This will help me to create the sounds I really want. I never knew how I should play midi guitar stuff to sound realistic.
Thank you so much! All I wanted to know is if I could use a pc recording of guitars in my mixes, and knowing the constraints and imperfections of playing a real guitar had me concerned. Very helpful tips!
another guitarist here. spot-on points. Perhaps if non-guitarists mark the keys (or put actual placeholder notes in the midi grid, if they're not using a keyboard controller) to represent the notes of a tuned guitar, they'll see/know to put only one note in each space. E A D G B E i was hoping you might have specific note spacing and velocity suggestions. i can't get the strumming right unless i midi in from a Godin multiac MIDI guitar.
Good stuff, I am using a few VST guitars. Ample Sound Guitars, Evolution Guitars, Shreddage 3 and Session Guitarist. Some days (songs) they sound decent and others they sound like a kazoo.
I really want to start creating music (I'm a total newbie). I play the violin. But that's not the kind of music I want to create. I want to start by recreating 80s and 90s songs. But I need realistic midi instruments to use (drums, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, syns, etc.). Where's the best place to get quality stuff like that?
This is a really good video. Real shit. I normally start with the free ample guitar and whatever I come up with I’ll copy it onto a Kontakt library (mostly Hollowbody from orange tree) and mess around with the presets. I came across this video trying to find out how to do guitar trills with MIDI btw
Thanks! I’m not sure if orange tree has this but see if there’s a key Switch for trills or hammer on/hammer off. That’s usually the only way to do it with midi
I’m looking for ways to either make the in-app guitar keyboards GB has sound more realistic, and also for things that’ll work on the iOS version. I recently bought Geoshred Pro but it won’t load as an AUV3 in GB for some reason 🙃 I really like the first two sounds you mentioned when explaining the 3 kinds of samples,
Comment on strumming- strumming down on guitar actually means from low note to high note and the first note actually should not be the loudest, could be last or middle strings. Also down and up steokes follow some logic usually 1/4 note strums all are down. Alternate down/up is usually on 1/16. Search internet for popular funk or rock strumming paterns or ask a guitarist friend. Also chord patterns you can find online
I started using STL Tones’ Tonality for amp/pedal and am very happy with the sound they make. I also use Music Labs’ Real Eight for the actual guitar sound. Amazing products. All of Music Labs’ products sound amazing and have great features like pick slides, harmonics, up/down strums, strum libraries. Hope this helps.
That's so complicated. Can't believe someone hasn't come up with anything way easier to do all those things and make us non-guitarist play like that with MIDI.
The one at 1:21 is one of the "Evolution" products by Orange Tree Samples. I myself have Evolution Rock Standard and Evolution Strawberry. I'm really happy with the sound, though many or most of the factory presets sound horrible out of the box. Of often use my S-Gear virtual Guitar Amp plugin on my evolution track and I gt really good sounds, but it takes some work.
Yeah seriously wtf lol I just looked it up and they updated it but wondering if we get the new version if we re-download 🤔 I saw something about a "re-introduction fee" which would be dumb
Dennis P. Sustain just drag the ends, velocity there are little red lines with a dot under the notes at the bottom of the screen, click this to change the velo
Echo Sound Works yeah but there's only one velocity per note... It looked like you were able to edit the velocity 2 times for one note. The only way I'd know how to accomplish what you did was to retrigger the sample to have 2 velocity things to edit. But that would play the note twice instead of playing the second half/sustain quieter
I think that also, because I play guitar also :) . but when you are creating a mockup or a score.... you can use one of this libraries and save you work and time and make it sound even better. Once the mockup or score is ready to production... then you use the real thing... This midi libraries are just tools which may sound sometimes "better" because they are super well recorded, almost perfect.... but in reality nothing like the real thing, we want the imperfections of the real instruments...
I do prefer to record real guitars but sometimes you have to sacrifice quality for convenience. If I did music as a paid job I would pay session guitarists to record guitar tracks for me. Sometimes I use a mix of real and synthesized guitars and I tend to do that if I'm using my midi sound modules but if I'm working in the box using only VST instruments for midi I use the guitar sounds in my VST instruments because it's quicker and also for a hobbyist it's not viable to hire a session guitarist, at least for commercial recordings the sale of your music covers that cost but if your a hobbyist your just chucking your money down the drain.
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Speaking as someone with no musical instrument skills who is finally getting into GarageBand as a starting point for music creation, this tutorial is fantastic to set me on the right path to “humanizing” my synth guitar sounds.
1:27 So as we work- (god damn it) so as we showcase. I love that part XD. Good video btw.
editing mistake oops
Speaking as a guitarist who is new to midi and VST, these guitar tips are spot-on.
instablaster...
11:09 you can also change the velocity by control + Command + click and dragging up or down, just so you know!
My go-to electric guitar sound is a kontakt library from impact soundworks, shreddage. I know it's a metal forward library, but it's a raw guitar library, treating that library with pop forward tone is resulting quite good end product
Really?! I got to check that one out, it's always marketed so heavily as a metal product, but now you got me curious
This is my last instrumental track, best vst guitar in action, i hope you enjoy
ruclips.net/video/V73nEGXUeBY/видео.html
Thanks this had a lot of useful information, I hadn't considered when arranging guitar in midi.
Glad it was helpful!
Your channel is crazy underrated man
I guess it's better to be underrated than overrated haha. Thanks for the love!
You forgot to do the slightly bend down notes when you switch cords on the original guitar I heard it . Meaning when you slide your fingers to the next cord it makes like a slightly bend down or when you switch cord upwards there is a small band upwards at the time you switch while you slide your fingers. Upwards. If you can re -create that affect when you slide your fingers. Other than the squeaky sound. Forget it that would be the best of the best.
Exactly, thats what Im looking for
Can u post a link if what ur talking about?
Hey... thanks for this video. It would have been nice to have links to the two guitar sample libraries, but what you taught here was excellent... great for a beginner in MIDI guitar programming like me. Again... thanks!
im only half way through your video right now and it has already helped me enormously. Many thanks indeed. I look forward to getting back to watch the rest after my amp pedal excursions :) prompted by your sharings
Never disappoint! Such a great teacher and musician.
I was just thinking of searching some tutorials on this last night, and you made one! :P Thanks Shane
Great timing then! Thanks for checking it out
I see echo sound works, i click.
thank you so much!
Me too !
Just wonderful, I been tryin to find out about "free electricity sound effects" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Diyarah Electric Freedomify - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my friend got excellent results with it.
This is my last instrumental track, best vst guitar in action, i hope you enjoy
ruclips.net/video/V73nEGXUeBY/видео.html
Thank you man, now my guitars sound amazing
Glad to hear it!
This is my last instrumental track, best vst guitar in action, i hope you enjoy
ruclips.net/video/V73nEGXUeBY/видео.html
Hi Shane. Could you do one of these tutorials for acoustic guitars? I'm struggeling to get pro sounding quality out of my acoustic guitar. And cant find any good and on point tutorials for it.
It's the Chef, not the Kitchen. 😎🙏 Thanks I needed that bro.
This is one of the best channels for music production tutorial, all videos here are awesome!! Keep it up!
Thank you so much man!
Some times dry is better if you need a clean crisp overall track. The echoes fight each other
Great video but feel a bit cut short. Maybe do a follow up regarding effects, panning, and layering of guitars?
Hey, thanks! I will do another video about effects for guitar, that's for sure a whole video!
@@EchoSoundWorks Look forward to it. Maybe also do a video on programming guitar chords compared to piano chords. It was something you touched on in the video but i'm still a little unclear of (as i don't play the guitar). Thanks Shane.
This is my last instrumental track, best vst guitar in action, i hope you enjoy
ruclips.net/video/V73nEGXUeBY/видео.html
good playing dude!!
Halion 6 has loads of decent acoustic and electric guitar sounds and even some of the guitars in the Kontakt factory
library are usable like the Jazz guitar. Even some of the guitars in my sound modules like my Roland SC-88 Pro and
Roland JV-1080 can still sound realistic if these same sort of tutorials are applied and even amp simulation elevates
the quality of the electric guitars on my sound modules. Another option is to use a mix of real and midi guitars
wherever possible as I have guitars but I can only play a limited set of chords. But then take the steel guitar on my
Roland U-220, it sounds nice with finger pick style playing but not so great for emulating strumming. There are also
loads of free guitar VSTs and free and low cost guitar libraries and even some of the free guitar VSTs can sound
half decent. Ample Guitar Lite sounds almost as good as any paid VST.
excellent thanks for sharing. great for a newb like me with no access to guitar or guitarist.
That nexus 2 sound was amazing, where did you get it ?
Xp guitar Expansion
I've been enjoying making DAW music for 4 years now, and in general, he is right. One thing I might disagree with though I could be in the wrong, is the the amps he mentioned, Guitar Rig, AmpliTube, and THU, had LOUSY sound for me, even though they are considered the best . When I transferred my DAW stuff to a new laptop, I didn't even reload those 3. What Worked for me was Evolution Strawberry and Evolution Rock Standard by Orange Tree Samples (he has one of the Evolution products at 1:21). He is right, I learned with Evolution, you turn off as many settings as possible to get a basic LesPaul or Strat dry sound.
Then, build from there with distortion, or Spring Reverb, cabinets and so on. Lotta "Playing Around" required. Even with Evolution, many of the settings sound horrible. The "Lovely Intro" setting in Evolution Rock Standard sounds amazingly clean and nice as a starter sound similar to a dry Les Paul. The second part to my sound is to add the S-Gear Virtual Guitar Amp plugin to a track that has my Evolution samples. This is where I differ from what he is saying, in that my Evolution has some amp and cabinet settings on, and my S-Gear has amp settings on as well, but it really depends on how all the interconnected settings sound together.
The pain is someone can do a demo of a product that sounds great, but it sounds horrible on your DAW. {sigh}
I found my guitars with an ambiance, slightly distorted sound to be very satisfactory, my clean guitar sounds are pretty easy to make happen, the Rock, high distorted sounds are still hard to get like I want. When I get a sound I like, I save it off as a template so I can pull it up on another song. It's takes some work, but I'm an IT guy, I'd rather do the work here than actually learning to play the guitars I bought {chuckle}. You'll have to learn through trial and error, like I learned many guitar sounds only sound nice when the velocity of your midi data is between 5 and 20. If you have it too high (like velocity 80), the sound is horrible (and with some settings the opposite is true). Lotta moving parts......
On a more encouraging note, IK Multimenia's virtual Bass, MODO Bass sounds good out of the box and you'll have some good bass sounds on Day 1. Fifteen different basses, choice of tube or solid state amp, Old strings vs. New Strings, stress free product. I agree with him also in that acoustic sound is easier to make happen, Native Instruments Picked Acoustic works perfect for me, though a little work is required, but that's the fun of it
GOOD LUCK!!!!
Thanks a lot for this video🙌🏻! This will help me to create the sounds I really want. I never knew how I should play midi guitar stuff to sound realistic.
Thank you so much! All I wanted to know is if I could use a pc recording of guitars in my mixes, and knowing the constraints and imperfections of playing a real guitar had me concerned. Very helpful tips!
Just in time lol, thank you Shane!
You're welcome! Glad it helped
Were the Live guitar parts played out and sample replaced as midi, or was the midi performance typed out?
another guitarist here. spot-on points. Perhaps if non-guitarists mark the keys (or put actual placeholder notes in the midi grid, if they're not using a keyboard controller) to represent the notes of a tuned guitar, they'll see/know to put only one note in each space. E A D G B E
i was hoping you might have specific note spacing and velocity suggestions. i can't get the strumming right unless i midi in from a Godin multiac MIDI guitar.
Good stuff, I am using a few VST guitars. Ample Sound Guitars, Evolution Guitars, Shreddage 3 and Session Guitarist. Some days (songs) they sound decent and others they sound like a kazoo.
Hahah. That's fair.
I really want to start creating music (I'm a total newbie). I play the violin. But that's not the kind of music I want to create. I want to start by recreating 80s and 90s songs. But I need realistic midi instruments to use (drums, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, syns, etc.). Where's the best place to get quality stuff like that?
I'm hoping they update Logic with a piano roll short cut for strumming like FL studio has. You can sort of do it with Q flam but not really.
Apex there’s actually a script you can use in the midi modifiers, it even triggers chords!
@@EchoSoundWorks Thanks for heads up
@@EchoSoundWorks where are the midi modifiers??
best tutorial ever!!!
Best comment ever! Thanks for checking it out
You should check out the Ilya Efimov library, there’s one that simulates a telecaster which is the guitar that Illenium uses!!!
Im seeing this after 1 year this video was very helpful to me
This is a really good video. Real shit. I normally start with the free ample guitar and whatever I come up with I’ll copy it onto a Kontakt library (mostly Hollowbody from orange tree) and mess around with the presets. I came across this video trying to find out how to do guitar trills with MIDI btw
Thanks! I’m not sure if orange tree has this but see if there’s a key Switch for trills or hammer on/hammer off. That’s usually the only way to do it with midi
I’m looking for ways to either make the in-app guitar keyboards GB has sound more realistic, and also for things that’ll work on the iOS version.
I recently bought Geoshred Pro but it won’t load as an AUV3 in GB for some reason 🙃
I really like the first two sounds you mentioned when explaining the 3 kinds of samples,
Kudos on the TH-U mention, it’s fantastic and on iOS it’s the only one that is AUV3. By far the best one imo. 👌🏼
Couldn't agree more!
Hey, is there any apps / programs to create electric guitar melody, leads? I dont have highend computer equipment
I'm pretty new to this, but how did you get the multible guitars? is it a download or where do I find it?
"It's the chef, not the kitchen"
Comment on strumming- strumming down on guitar actually means from low note to high note and the first note actually should not be the loudest, could be last or middle strings. Also down and up steokes follow some logic usually 1/4 note strums all are down. Alternate down/up is usually on 1/16. Search internet for popular funk or rock strumming paterns or ask a guitarist friend. Also chord patterns you can find online
Where can i get those guitar programs for logic?
Please what is the name of the software you are using? Its dope
best video about this
George Scott thanks George, appreciate that
what are the logic guitar sounds that sound real, went broke purchasing izotope and a couple other plugins lol
Did you find out yet 😭
I started using STL Tones’ Tonality for amp/pedal and am very happy with the sound they make. I also use Music Labs’ Real Eight for the actual guitar sound. Amazing products. All of Music Labs’ products sound amazing and have great features like pick slides, harmonics, up/down strums, strum libraries. Hope this helps.
@@rejuvesite Thank you so much man!
CAn we do chucking on a MIDI guitar in logic pro?
Thank you so much💯💯💯💯
oh and the chef / kitchen analogy is a ruddy good one so no need to apologise :)
Very very good. Thanks.
Than you!
? estas vendiendo los loop que trae logic pro?
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks
Man where did you download this vst presets?
Very good video!
Thanks for this tip.
what the name of the kontakt libary please?
she is sounds great!
and thank you so much for the tutorial!!!
Genius!
thank you!
What about metal tones
Ample sound is amazing ^_^
They make some great libraries for sure!
Thanks Shane!
Nathan Kestner thanks Nathan!
Hey man! Send me a DM to our instagram account or email, I never got back to your facebook message, just tried and it's not loading.
Cool Thx Shane! Can you do a video on how you made the intro song.
Hey thanks! Yeah I can, I gotta find that old session first haha
Echo Sound Works cool looking forward to it
Which Daw is this?
nice video thanks a lot do you know how to make a realistic hammer and pull off on a midi editor please ?
You have to use a sample library or kontakt instrument etc. that sampled hammer on and hammer off. A lot of them have those via key switches.
This is my last instrumental track, best vst guitar in action, i hope you enjoy
ruclips.net/video/V73nEGXUeBY/видео.html
That's so complicated. Can't believe someone hasn't come up with anything way easier to do all those things and make us non-guitarist play like that with MIDI.
1:27 killed me
Does anyone know what expansion has the guitar at 2:44?
nexus
Xp guitars expansion
Any way to add a whammy bar for a surf guitar sound? Or bends??
Try using a tremelo plug-in
Can I use a guitar plugin on my midi controller without attaching an actual guitar?
What is the name of this library please tell me ☹️
The one at 1:21 is one of the "Evolution" products by Orange Tree Samples. I myself have Evolution Rock Standard and Evolution Strawberry. I'm really happy with the sound, though many or most of the factory presets sound horrible out of the box. Of often use my S-Gear virtual Guitar Amp plugin on my evolution track and I gt really good sounds, but it takes some work.
@@dxwallace55 ok thank 😊
Shane, thank you, man. Maravilha!
Glad you like it!
What is that Strawberry preset you used? Mine sounds so different from it
Yeah seriously wtf lol I just looked it up and they updated it but wondering if we get the new version if we re-download 🤔 I saw something about a "re-introduction fee" which would be dumb
I just logged in my account and u can download the update!
thanks a lot
Anyone know where and how I can get ANA?
Superb
Thank you! Cheers!
@@EchoSoundWorks Please tell me what preset you used in Strawberry. It's the exact sound I'm looking for.
Welllll if u use a guitar pedal, much is possible . Or artificial reverb or any wierd thing that makes magic happen
But how i play a beat... Like fox trot
🔥🔥🔥🔥
tq so much
How do u do that velocity change/sustain note in ableton?
Dennis P. Sustain just drag the ends, velocity there are little red lines with a dot under the notes at the bottom of the screen, click this to change the velo
Echo Sound Works yeah but there's only one velocity per note... It looked like you were able to edit the velocity 2 times for one note. The only way I'd know how to accomplish what you did was to retrigger the sample to have 2 velocity things to edit. But that would play the note twice instead of playing the second half/sustain quieter
but producer like me who would lobe to use it but have no money to get how are we helped please
Ayz Pro find an affordable way to sample
dude is there anyway to get the MIDI from 2:43?
Jugg3r Nog send me a dm
@@EchoSoundWorks just did on instagram :)
what is your DAW ?
He's using logic pro x
The new NI Session Gitarrist Picked is sounds fantastic:
ruclips.net/video/y64tJiRof88/видео.html
Yeah it is!
Wow
The sunbird sounded immediately fake to me
thanks now I can complete my five finger death punch album.
this sounds great but I think people should just pick up a real guitar
I think that also, because I play guitar also :) . but when you are creating a mockup or a score.... you can use one of this libraries and save you work and time and make it sound even better. Once the mockup or score is ready to production... then you use the real thing... This midi libraries are just tools which may sound sometimes "better" because they are super well recorded, almost perfect.... but in reality nothing like the real thing, we want the imperfections of the real instruments...
I do prefer to record real guitars but sometimes you have to sacrifice quality for convenience. If I did music as a paid job I would
pay session guitarists to record guitar tracks for me. Sometimes I use a mix of real and synthesized guitars and I tend to do that
if I'm using my midi sound modules but if I'm working in the box using only VST instruments for midi I use the guitar sounds in
my VST instruments because it's quicker and also for a hobbyist it's not viable to hire a session guitarist, at least for commercial
recordings the sale of your music covers that cost but if your a hobbyist your just chucking your money down the drain.
I am not buying a rral guitar because i wanna learn how to use professionally enough software and all these things first...
I am not buying a rral guitar because i wanna learn how to use professionally enough software and all these things first...
I am not buying a rral guitar because i wanna learn how to use professionally enough software and all these things first...
Just found out this is how parannoul makes music 😮