Thank you for your video. Regarding 5:47, on the M7 Bayonet there is a gap between the grip and the crossguard and a gap between the grip and the pommel. These gaps were deliberate to allow clearance to mitigate the possibility of cracking on the plastic grip from too tight flush contact with the steel terminal ends. Regarding 11:16 on the locket of the M8A1 Scabbard, the marking “B.M. CO.” was for the Beckwith Manufacturing Company which was located in Dover, New Hampshire. Regarding 12:01, the marking “VP” was for the Victory Plastics Company which was located in Hudson, Massachusetts.
Even recently made M7s by OKC still have those gaps. Doesn't seem to effect utility in any way. The M9 bayonets are better all around utility knives, but these m7s were better combat knives.
Was issued this item in the USMC in the early issue dates. Reason I commented was my laundry number in boot camp was 19. If you were in the USMC you would know and always remember that. Awesome content my Aussie friend. Subbed.
Happy to have you on board, I worked with marines a couple times during my time in the infantry. I still have an undershirt I swapped with one of your guys
KA-BAR definitely used since the hated marine stilletos of WW2 and possibly even the WW1 trench knives were issued. They were adopted in 42, but way before that soldiers in the know grabbed KaBar's as general utility knives (sometimes the army would provide bowie's but that is a bit if an overcorrection, most soldiers just wanted a good can opener) However, I've never seem a bayonet mounted KA-BAR (have seen bayonett mounted Bowie's lol) and my guess it that the stilleto/trench style thin stabby blades were much more effective, especially as the guns get lighter (don't want to be using an AR's pencil barrel as a pry bar) You go way back you see some basic utility knife style bayonetts but often they avoid the barrel or it'd so damn solid your not going to hurt it anyway.
thaks a lot , in the mexican Heroic Militay Naval school all the cadets carry a m7 bayonet with m10 sccabard to put in the m16 rifle, i recently y brought one , with the m8a1 scabbard in black color, and its fantastic,
The difference between the M5 and M6 bayonet is actually that the M5 has a stud on the cross guard that inserts into the end of the M1 gas tube, while the M6 has a ring that fits around the M14 muzzle device. The M7 shared the same bakelite handle with post-1954 M4 bayonets for the M1 carbine. MIL-B-1309 was the specification for the M1917, M4, M5, M6, and M7 bayonets. In Revision E (08MAY1975), paragraph 3.4, the specification states that, "Unless otherwise specified on the drawings, all parts shall be interchangeable between similar items." When fitted to an AR-15 or M16 with bayonet lug, the M7 ring sits as far aft on the flash hider as possible. Because distance between the M16 bayonet lug and flash hider was greater than the M1 carbine, which had no flashider, the M7 bayonet tang was slightly longer. But because the grip is interchangeable with the M4 bayonet, there is a noticeable gap on original M7s. Revision E of the specification remained current until inactivation on 08SEP2020. Any example of an M7 without a gap above and below the grip is probably not a US contract item manufactured in accordance with MIL-B-1309.
Greetings from Arizona, USA. Thank you for your video, as it is very informative. I have a Colt M7 purchased around ten or so years back, which supposedly was one one of 20,000 "new old stock" originally manufactured during the Vietnam conflict which were found in a warehouse. There were a few different online retailers offering them with prices hovering somewhere between a low of $150 upwards of $300 USD each. They sold out at the 3 or 4 online retailers relatively quickly. The last time I saw any for sale (around a year and a half after they first appeared), likely from that batch, they were selling (being scalped) for around $500 or so USD on ebay.
Depending on what state your in/how far you’re willing to travel, if you want bayonets there is literally thousands of them at the Brisbane arms fair. It’s crazy
G'day mate, for some reason I only just found your channel, excellent mate👍🇦🇺 Have subbed and will definitely share around.. Where are you? I'm in Brisbane 🇦🇺🦘
@@pointynotsharp8436 nice work mate, will catch up on a few today.. I have shared it with a couple of mates in America, they will swing by as well 👍🇦🇺🦘
I have one of those. And I always figured that the gap between cross guard and the handle is on purpose to allow for movement/flex, while e.g. trying to break something open, or remove it when it got stuck. edit: my scabbard was made inW. Germany. Germany howerever never used that bayonet
I want to buy a M7 bayonet and cut the barrel loop off of it so it will be easier to carry as a self-defense knife. I found a new in foil packaged M7 for $100 dollars. ⚠️ Do you recommend me to buy a COLT marked M7 bayonet or a IMPERIAL marked M7 bayonet ?
I have a number of these, the best being made by Eichhorn. Another decent quality one is marked "Colt", and "W. Germany". I have one with the hilt and scabbard in desert sand colour, made for the first Gulf War. I was on standby for this conflict, but in the event, it was over before I got to take part. I have been a collector since I bought my first bayonet as a youth in 1968. At that time, most junk shops had a decent selection of bayonets, many being souvenirs from the Great War.
I have to say, my scabbard broke. I was very annoyed. The entire plastic sheath snapped and it is unusable. I am curious about grabbing an M10 now, as I suspect based on the age of the original design, it probably did not use the most robust plastics.
This off subject a little…but here about 2015 I had purchased a Springfield M1A rifle and of course I needed to purchase the bayonet lug flash hider and a M7 bayonet,so at the time Fulton Armory had new in the box unissued M7 bayonet’s and m8a1 scabbard’s for sale alone with the flash hider so I ordered the set up …the bayonet arrived unopened from the factory in a sealed plastic bag with a brown sealed box marked m6 bayonet with a bunch of numbers n stuff and inside the box was wrapped in silver plastic bag of some sort the bayonet…a M7 BOC manufactured bayonet…that doesn’t fit the M14 or M1A …I don’t understand how a sealed from the factory bayonet with all the proper numbers could have the wrong bayonet in it …the date was 6/68 …kinda crazy government screw up I guess….
Hey y'all. So recently picked up a weird M7 that has a wire cutter feature. It's made in West Germany and has a sheath very reminiscent of the KCB77 and as far as I can tell it's made by eickhorn-solingen. Does anyone know anything about it? Thank you if you do!
From what I've heard they are called the M7/S, the S stands for smit schere which translates to scissors. I think they were a commercial product of Eickhorn from the mid 80s. Very hard to get, sounds like a great score
Thank you for your video. Regarding 5:47, on the M7 Bayonet there is a gap between the grip and the crossguard and a gap between the grip and the pommel. These gaps were deliberate to allow clearance to mitigate the possibility of cracking on the plastic grip from too tight flush contact with the steel terminal ends. Regarding 11:16 on the locket of the M8A1 Scabbard, the marking “B.M. CO.” was for the Beckwith Manufacturing Company which was located in Dover, New Hampshire. Regarding 12:01, the marking “VP” was for the Victory Plastics Company which was located in Hudson, Massachusetts.
Even recently made M7s by OKC still have those gaps. Doesn't seem to effect utility in any way. The M9 bayonets are better all around utility knives, but these m7s were better combat knives.
Was issued this item in the USMC in the early issue dates. Reason I commented was my laundry number in boot camp was 19. If you were in the USMC you would know and always remember that. Awesome content my Aussie friend. Subbed.
Happy to have you on board, I worked with marines a couple times during my time in the infantry. I still have an undershirt I swapped with one of your guys
sharp Semper Fi sir
was the M9 used also? i was meaning to ask a veteran, also, wanting to know about the Kbar?
@@silverwiskers7371 M9 is US Army only. Marines use OKC-3
KA-BAR definitely used since the hated marine stilletos of WW2 and possibly even the WW1 trench knives were issued. They were adopted in 42, but way before that soldiers in the know grabbed KaBar's as general utility knives (sometimes the army would provide bowie's but that is a bit if an overcorrection, most soldiers just wanted a good can opener)
However, I've never seem a bayonet mounted KA-BAR (have seen bayonett mounted Bowie's lol) and my guess it that the stilleto/trench style thin stabby blades were much more effective, especially as the guns get lighter (don't want to be using an AR's pencil barrel as a pry bar)
You go way back you see some basic utility knife style bayonetts but often they avoid the barrel or it'd so damn solid your not going to hurt it anyway.
thaks a lot , in the mexican Heroic Militay Naval school all the cadets carry a m7 bayonet with m10 sccabard to put in the m16 rifle, i recently y brought one , with the m8a1 scabbard in black color, and its fantastic,
The difference between the M5 and M6 bayonet is actually that the M5 has a stud on the cross guard that inserts into the end of the M1 gas tube, while the M6 has a ring that fits around the M14 muzzle device. The M7 shared the same bakelite handle with post-1954 M4 bayonets for the M1 carbine. MIL-B-1309 was the specification for the M1917, M4, M5, M6, and M7 bayonets. In Revision E (08MAY1975), paragraph 3.4, the specification states that, "Unless otherwise specified on the drawings, all parts shall be interchangeable between similar items." When fitted to an AR-15 or M16 with bayonet lug, the M7 ring sits as far aft on the flash hider as possible. Because distance between the M16 bayonet lug and flash hider was greater than the M1 carbine, which had no flashider, the M7 bayonet tang was slightly longer. But because the grip is interchangeable with the M4 bayonet, there is a noticeable gap on original M7s. Revision E of the specification remained current until inactivation on 08SEP2020. Any example of an M7 without a gap above and below the grip is probably not a US contract item manufactured in accordance with MIL-B-1309.
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Greetings from Arizona, USA. Thank you for your video, as it is very informative.
I have a Colt M7 purchased around ten or so years back, which supposedly was one one of 20,000 "new old stock" originally manufactured during the Vietnam conflict which were found in a warehouse.
There were a few different online retailers offering them with prices hovering somewhere between a low of $150 upwards of $300 USD each.
They sold out at the 3 or 4 online retailers relatively quickly. The last time I saw any for sale (around a year and a half after they first appeared), likely from that batch, they were selling (being scalped) for around $500 or so USD on ebay.
I bought mine with the M-8A1 scabbard with a lanyard still attached a few years ago for $70 or so at a gun show in Nebraska. Fits my AR-15 nicely.
Depending on what state your in/how far you’re willing to travel, if you want bayonets there is literally thousands of them at the Brisbane arms fair. It’s crazy
Funny. Here in the US they're hard to come by online for reasonable prices
Very informative👍The VP mark is for Victory Plastic same as the M5 scabbard for the No4 bayonet.
West Germany also made US M7s which were issued to US troops
G'day mate, for some reason I only just found your channel, excellent mate👍🇦🇺
Have subbed and will definitely share around..
Where are you? I'm in Brisbane 🇦🇺🦘
I only just started recently, still a tiny hard to spot channel based out of Sydney
@@pointynotsharp8436 nice work mate, will catch up on a few today.. I have shared it with a couple of mates in America, they will swing by as well 👍🇦🇺🦘
An M7 bayonet is the best one out there. Have you seen any of the crap other countries have made?
I have one of those. And I always figured that the gap between cross guard and the handle is on purpose to allow for movement/flex, while e.g. trying to break something open, or remove it when it got stuck.
edit: my scabbard was made inW. Germany. Germany howerever never used that bayonet
Gd vid thx. If you're into collecting, look into Colt blade marked Imperial & Eickhorn ...nice broad arrow M10
Actually for the markings there should be a serial number marked on the side of the guard as well.
M7 Bayonets are also used with the Ruger Mini 14 Rifle & a few U.S. issue shotguns.
“BMCO” (for Beckwith Manufacturing Company).
I want to buy a M7 bayonet and cut the barrel loop off of it so it will be easier to carry as a self-defense knife. I found a new in foil packaged M7 for $100 dollars. ⚠️ Do you recommend me to buy a COLT marked M7 bayonet or a IMPERIAL marked M7 bayonet ?
Sounds like you want an M3 fighting knife, or a modern made one. I struggle to recommend cutting up bayonets 😂
I think there are several US brands that made the M7 bayonet. Be on the lookout for them.
I have a number of these, the best being made by Eichhorn. Another decent quality one is marked "Colt", and "W. Germany". I have one with the hilt and scabbard in desert sand colour, made for the first Gulf War. I was on standby for this conflict, but in the event, it was over before I got to take part. I have been a collector since I bought my first bayonet as a youth in 1968. At that time, most junk shops had a decent selection of bayonets, many being souvenirs from the Great War.
New 2022 batch of general cutlery m7 came with my remington r4 complete upper brand new. General cutlery only made these bayonets 3 times in history.
I have to say, my scabbard broke. I was very annoyed. The entire plastic sheath snapped and it is unusable. I am curious about grabbing an M10 now, as I suspect based on the age of the original design, it probably did not use the most robust plastics.
It will be interesting to see how plastic bayonet furniture and scabbards age, good thing m10 scabbards are still dirt cheap
New sub here. Can I ask if you can link where you got this amazing knife? Thank you.
Iike all us bayonets from the M1 onwards the blade grinding is rough,and they are a loose fit on the rifles
This off subject a little…but here about 2015 I had purchased a Springfield M1A rifle and of course I needed to purchase the bayonet lug flash hider and a M7 bayonet,so at the time Fulton Armory had new in the box unissued M7 bayonet’s and m8a1 scabbard’s for sale alone with the flash hider so I ordered the set up …the bayonet arrived unopened from the factory in a sealed plastic bag with a brown sealed box marked m6 bayonet with a bunch of numbers n stuff and inside the box was wrapped in silver plastic bag of some sort the bayonet…a M7 BOC manufactured bayonet…that doesn’t fit the M14 or M1A …I don’t understand how a sealed from the factory bayonet with all the proper numbers could have the wrong bayonet in it …the date was 6/68 …kinda crazy government screw up I guess….
The M14 series uses the M6 bayonet, which uses a different attachment, although the scabbards are interchangeable with the later M7.
Didn’t realize that we gave the Afghans bayonets. I wouldn’t trust any ANA regulars with bayonets
what is a ANA ?
@@unitedstatesirie7431 Afghan National Army
bayonets are great because they turn guns into swords and if I love one thing more than guns it's swordplay.
nice
My milpar m7 was used in 68 in nam now sits on my ar15
I brought mine home with me in 69. It's probably older than most of the people on this channel. It's one of my many souvenirs.
How do you use the metal clip on the top to attach this scabbard to a belt?
They fit to US M1910 belts, the belts have holes that the metal bits go through
@@pointynotsharp8436 cheers thanks for the information!
Hey y'all. So recently picked up a weird M7 that has a wire cutter feature. It's made in West Germany and has a sheath very reminiscent of the KCB77 and as far as I can tell it's made by eickhorn-solingen. Does anyone know anything about it? Thank you if you do!
From what I've heard they are called the M7/S, the S stands for smit schere which translates to scissors. I think they were a commercial product of Eickhorn from the mid 80s. Very hard to get, sounds like a great score
@@pointynotsharp8436 Thank you for the info!
If you don't know much about manufacturing, you should not talk much about manufacturing.