even fearless draft runs to this issue. the only saving grace of this is that fearless allows for far more champions to be shown on screen since at a best of three by the third game you have 30 champions banned. lck academy teams have some very nice matches and drafts due to that. i really recommend looking in any fearless draft league. i hope they implement it in more major leagues and maybe stuff like msi and worlds. it would make for a very interesting meta since so many champs must be used. in a best of 5 even in a 3-0 you have seen 40 champions picked or banned. imagine a close best of 5 with 46 bans before the first pick of the game. actually putting great pressure to both the coaches and the players to become all rounders instead of running the same old back each game.
I remember being introduced to league in S2. I was told to build 3 blood thirsters and 2 phantom dancers on Yi as well as boots. I played that for a season and had a STUPID high win rate. It was so fun.
ahh yes the unkillable yi build, you also played the same on ww back then, i actually once solo'd baron while a full build twitch was hitting me the entire time as 3bt 2pd boots ww and then i killed the twitch
@@patrykcon1344 AP Yi killing an entire team with a couple Q's and then healing to full health with one W. I miss the full Q reset on kill and not just 70% 😂
Im genuinely disappointed that this lack some legends. At least he talked about the season 5 tank meta. Thunderlord, 10 player picking it. Darkharvest, 10 player picking it and even a soraka can oneshot with 1 auto. 6x sunfire perma-invisible twicth/evelyn. Mundo, but with mejai-like item that grants HP instead. Warwick with bloodrazor build, point click to ult the adc and oneshot. River shen. Inter sion. Full burn diana. And many more.
@@-.--Y..-U...S..-U..-.F read what meta is. 1 champion building 1 build is not meta. black cleaver was a meta. tanks were meta. ardent was a meta. be openminded and an arrogant prick. what you described were some memorable fun builds, but nothing meta defining.
Now let’s talk about champions who were broken after receiving a rework! Anyone remember Jungle or Support Malzahar? Jungle Malzahar could solo baron at lvl 14 and anyone playing botlane against Malzahar was screwed, as they would always get permaulted.
There are actually some mistakes in this video, I'll try to cover them. Black Cleavers original Build path was some ad item (i think it was pickaxe)+attackpeed, they later changed it to what's in your video and people startet using black cleaver meta from this point. Kleptomancy, as far as i know, only had the first autoattack trigger the rune at release, but in the need of trying to cut off Klepto Viktor Top, they changed it to "the next 2 autoattacks" and made the rewars for each auto less efficient. Feel free to correct me if i am wrong on this :)
Ah yes, how could I forget the triple cleaver Jarvan IV, when he would flag and Q you and it already shredded a good chunk of your armor, plus the three cleavers activating at the same time by the Q alone, followed by his auto empowered with Martial Cadence passive immediately sending your HP to Narnia. Fun times.
Hi Id like to add my personal favorite of season 0-6 of Tryndamere building Infinity Edge > phantom dancer x 4 >Boots> (eventually static shiv for extra FU) Good times :)
I have been playing the game since a little while after its release, dont remember the exact date but one thing i do remember is the balance team not balancing the game in any season, closet they came to balanced was seasons 6/7/8, the game wasnt balanced completely back then but its way better than now
Nah. There were worse metas than that. Remember S10 - Death's Dance meta? Very, very awful. ZZ portal + banner? 30 stacks jungle item? There were many bad metas. However, nobody cares since e-sport is the only thing. Right? Solo queue had many bad times.
Fact on ardent censer, it was viable and op before most of its changes, practically all season 7. It received buffs so that players would spot them on the patch and actually try the item, it started seeing play near end of season, the players were just sleeping on it. Its something the balance team does somewhat regularly, phreak talked about this in one of his patch breakdown videos not soo long ago
Inception wasn't in 2009, as I already remember playing it in 2008. Cleaver wasn't the first meta, Arguably it was sunfire cape, but that was somewhat limited to some champs. (Garen, twitch, eve, alistar etc) The first true meta was atmogs. (Atmas impaler, warmogs) which was also before cleaver meta.
Old Locket of the Iron Solari used to base on bonus hp. Old Stoneplate active increase max hp by 100% if there are more than 3 enemy nearby. So if you stack hp, running into the middle of the enemy, Stoneplate then Locket, you can effectively double your whole team health for a fight.
7:28 Bro you can't show that. Those were brutal times, 52min, only 18 kills in total and 500+ Farm on Laners. Those days were so slow in comparison to todays meta.
Fiora full tiamat , z rod, banner of command, ryze full rod of age, the old jungle item the lantern things from s3, you used it as a ward, 2 people with this item could solo nash at lv 6, the old tabi boots who have % dodge, the recall option we had before, almost everyone took the homeguard thing, fast regen and go to lane fast, DFG to nuke people, the old force of nature from season 1/2 , insane hp regen, couldnt kill tank with nash buff, the good old heat of gold, philosopher stone and the ap one... anything was op at some point if played well
I remember when I played in season 4 there was a lantern jungle item and u bought spirit stone for the heal and just perma farmed on yi or udyr, cant remember if it actually was good lol
pretty sure you got 1 thing wrong. im farely certain they had unique passives on some items back when they made black cleaver. they just didn't do it for that particular item
Let me be real here for a moment. For someone who has played League since Beta, It's funny to see we never had a proper Mage meta at any point, yet people constantly complaining and wanting them to get nerfed is so poetic.
Saying that nobody had thought of making unique passives back in S3 is kind of stupid. Will of the Ancients had a unique passive for years. Only one purchase of WotA would provide you with its buff, but multiple teammates could purchase it and you could gain additional buffs that way. Lots of items had unique passives. BC was just one that didn't.
Funniest builds I've ever tried: 5 Malady Warwick and boots 6 Avarice Blade Gangplank And the best one was Sunfire cape stacking with invisible heroes. You could throw an invisible Evelynn with 5 sunfire capes and kill people just by staying by them.
5.16 was one of the best patches, the only issue is it should have been done sooner. If it was done at the start of the season pros would have time to adapt. At any rate a top lane meta of juggernauts( which has basically never happened again on such a scale) is much better than an adc or tank meta. Currentlya adc's are safe with their items that give ms, but also deal insane damage. You can't reach them and they nuke you in 2 seconds.
zzrot? you talkin about the item that was bugged and trash for so long that riot removed it so players wouldnt grief by building it? the one that was completely bugged for 4 seasons and every patch in the game randomly would make it bug out even more? yeah i guess ur right it was pretty broken
@@KaloKross you obviously don’t remember having that with banner of command in the sidelanes which would just ruin someone’s base during a set time of league. Rest of the time it was trash though
Pretty OP tbh drop zzrot halfway through top side then buff the caster/siege then push or clash on bottom, 30 sec later their top getting wreck while stalling them at bottom. 😂
Now top is an island. A depressing one where only the most annoying champs are picked. I started to play league again after a 4 years stop. I'm thinking about leaving again because toplane is just meh.
how can you not talk about stacking tiamat onehsot pentakill shyvanas or stacking archangel staff to get 5000more mana and 15% of that mana as bonus ap resulting in champs like ryze reaching up to 1500ap or more?
Ardent censer remains the worst meta of all because it wasn't just 2-6 patches long it was an entire season, an entire year of ardent censer being giga broken. It'll be hard to make a season worse than season 7, only the ADC and support mattered the other champions were all supportive characters.
Two of the Worst times I lived through were Funnel and Ardent Cancer Meta . Ironically enough busted broken early days of league were more enjoyable than these 2
5 black cleavers was OP but the sleeper was 6 Tiamat Fiora. Old Fioras ult counted as auto attacks so each hit would have the Tiamat aoe and with 6 Tiamats the aoe would hit for full damage so if you hit a ult on the whole team you would just shred everyone instantly while being untargetable 😂
ye but this video is just kinda like repeating the same things that are in 100 other videos, wont get much actual insight into things like random early season 5 stuff
are you sure that's how the cleavers worked? I remember pantheons building multiple black cleavers and hitting literally an entire hp bar instantly with heir on-hit spray ability whatever it was called. I was under the impression that it didn't cap out at 30%, but instead added a 30 for each cleaver you had. So if you have 6 cleavers you could reach 180% armor pen and every always insta-died. Maybe im misremembering but it felt a LOT more overpowered than how it was explained in the video.
Ive been playing league since 2012, the game has constantly been in a broken state since then and launch. Every patch they release makes a group of 20-30 champions more or less unplayable against, its incredibly unfun idk why I play this garbage game like many of you lol
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“Viewers seeing the same champions picked every game”
That is always the case. Lately it’s Zeri, Ksante, Skarner, Corki, Azir, Vi, etc.
even fearless draft runs to this issue. the only saving grace of this is that fearless allows for far more champions to be shown on screen since at a best of three by the third game you have 30 champions banned. lck academy teams have some very nice matches and drafts due to that. i really recommend looking in any fearless draft league. i hope they implement it in more major leagues and maybe stuff like msi and worlds. it would make for a very interesting meta since so many champs must be used. in a best of 5 even in a 3-0 you have seen 40 champions picked or banned. imagine a close best of 5 with 46 bans before the first pick of the game. actually putting great pressure to both the coaches and the players to become all rounders instead of running the same old back each game.
Skarner deserved for years in abyss
@@bogusawecina7760skarner has always been OP in the right hands
This video just proves that Riot throughout the history of the game up until today has no idea what the hell they are doing
Almost like there is an infinite amount of things that can go wrong in a game this complex (balance/bugs)
Riot is not god Almighty
@@lulyhead Athough God Almighty created a pretty unfair world. Way less fair than this video game's ever been, actually. lol
@@lulyheadNot really.
This game ALWAYS HAD EASY AS FK PROBLEMS TO FIX but Riot only did whatever the fk they wanted.
@streptococo4735 i wish this wasnt the case, but it is
@@lulyhead chess have a near infinite number of moves with 16 pieces, imagine how many different choices there are every game of league
When rune Thunderlord came out and all 10 players in the lobby took it no matter which champion....
Haha
Same for Dark Harvest
but fervor was way more strong at the same time especially for champs like darius
How about banner of command split push. Riot removed the item only to bring it back as hullbreaker
Banner and ZZ'Rot was insane.
@@theeeves Banner on a canon with baron buff. 8 shots from a 1250 range to kill a tower...
I remember being introduced to league in S2. I was told to build 3 blood thirsters and 2 phantom dancers on Yi as well as boots. I played that for a season and had a STUPID high win rate. It was so fun.
ahh yes the unkillable yi build, you also played the same on ww back then, i actually once solo'd baron while a full build twitch was hitting me the entire time as 3bt 2pd boots ww and then i killed the twitch
and then the build got changed to AP Yi... wow i will never forget that
@@patrykcon1344 AP Yi killing an entire team with a couple Q's and then healing to full health with one W. I miss the full Q reset on kill and not just 70% 😂
Im genuinely disappointed that this lack some legends. At least he talked about the season 5 tank meta.
Thunderlord, 10 player picking it.
Darkharvest, 10 player picking it and even a soraka can oneshot with 1 auto.
6x sunfire perma-invisible twicth/evelyn.
Mundo, but with mejai-like item that grants HP instead.
Warwick with bloodrazor build, point click to ult the adc and oneshot.
River shen.
Inter sion.
Full burn diana.
And many more.
I like it
those were hardly metas
@@sinnis4993 sure buddy
@@-.--Y..-U...S..-U..-.F read what meta is. 1 champion building 1 build is not meta. black cleaver was a meta. tanks were meta. ardent was a meta.
be openminded and an arrogant prick. what you described were some memorable fun builds, but nothing meta defining.
No Spirit of the Elder Lizard or Sated Devourer mention is legit criminal
It was just now I learned that meta actually was an acronym and what those words that made it up were.
Most Effective Tactics Available
Now let’s talk about champions who were broken after receiving a rework!
Anyone remember Jungle or Support Malzahar? Jungle Malzahar could solo baron at lvl 14 and anyone playing botlane against Malzahar was screwed, as they would always get permaulted.
There are actually some mistakes in this video, I'll try to cover them.
Black Cleavers original Build path was some ad item (i think it was pickaxe)+attackpeed, they later changed it to what's in your video and people startet using black cleaver meta from this point.
Kleptomancy, as far as i know, only had the first autoattack trigger the rune at release, but in the need of trying to cut off Klepto Viktor Top, they changed it to "the next 2 autoattacks" and made the rewars for each auto less efficient.
Feel free to correct me if i am wrong on this :)
Ah yes, how could I forget the triple cleaver Jarvan IV, when he would flag and Q you and it already shredded a good chunk of your armor, plus the three cleavers activating at the same time by the Q alone, followed by his auto empowered with Martial Cadence passive immediately sending your HP to Narnia.
Fun times.
Good video but It would be nice to see some love towards the stacking sunfire cape meta
Hi Id like to add my personal favorite of season 0-6 of Tryndamere building Infinity Edge > phantom dancer x 4 >Boots> (eventually static shiv for extra FU) Good times :)
I have been playing the game since a little while after its release, dont remember the exact date but one thing i do remember is the balance team not balancing the game in any season, closet they came to balanced was seasons 6/7/8, the game wasnt balanced completely back then but its way better than now
"games were boring" shows literally the coolest thing ever (darius getting pentakills)
Playing during the gangplank event and the bilgewater announcer and howling abyss ... season 4,5,6 was peak league
I miss the days of stacking 6 sunfires
sunfire amumu/twitch/evelynn was genuinely some of the most fun I've ever had in league tbh
@@Adam0193Official yeah 6 sunfire amumu was fun
Baron melting xd
6 tiamat old fiora ult in a teamfight
Remember when you were stacking dark harvest from jungle camps? Jesus that was so painful to play against
Also there were metas of double tear Ez, shield support item on ADC, banner + z`zrot portal, support aftershock and probably much more broken metas
Yo great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed it brother!
what about the stacking of sunfire cape on first evelyne or twitch invisibility ? x)
I mean, you really chose to showcase 5 black cleavers, and not 5 hydras on fiona ?
Nah. There were worse metas than that. Remember S10 - Death's Dance meta? Very, very awful. ZZ portal + banner? 30 stacks jungle item? There were many bad metas. However, nobody cares since e-sport is the only thing. Right? Solo queue had many bad times.
stacking timats shyvana and stacking archangel ryze instantly come to mind
Fact on ardent censer, it was viable and op before most of its changes, practically all season 7. It received buffs so that players would spot them on the patch and actually try the item, it started seeing play near end of season, the players were just sleeping on it. Its something the balance team does somewhat regularly, phreak talked about this in one of his patch breakdown videos not soo long ago
Yeah man. i playedit before. it was so broken. I was kinda mad when everyone knew it and they had to nerf it. ADC healing of the damage was insane
@@florianhaider8114 Wich is one of the later buffs to the item. lmao
Inception wasn't in 2009, as I already remember playing it in 2008.
Cleaver wasn't the first meta, Arguably it was sunfire cape, but that was somewhat limited to some champs. (Garen, twitch, eve, alistar etc)
The first true meta was atmogs. (Atmas impaler, warmogs) which was also before cleaver meta.
Old Locket of the Iron Solari used to base on bonus hp.
Old Stoneplate active increase max hp by 100% if there are more than 3 enemy nearby.
So if you stack hp, running into the middle of the enemy, Stoneplate then Locket, you can effectively double your whole team health for a fight.
also chogath stoneplate to onehsot adc
The 5 cleaver is iconic, but so was 5 sunfire capes
AP Ezreal with smite and the jungle item was also ridiculous
7:28 Bro you can't show that. Those were brutal times, 52min, only 18 kills in total and 500+ Farm on Laners. Those days were so slow in comparison to todays meta.
you forgot the 3 items granting passive gold income strat from season 2 I believe. Philosopher stone and 2 other items. Was really broken
whats up with the ardent leona video you put in? It's just leona lvl 1 no?
Fiora full tiamat , z rod, banner of command, ryze full rod of age, the old jungle item the lantern things from s3, you used it as a ward, 2 people with this item could solo nash at lv 6, the old tabi boots who have % dodge, the recall option we had before, almost everyone took the homeguard thing, fast regen and go to lane fast, DFG to nuke people, the old force of nature from season 1/2 , insane hp regen, couldnt kill tank with nash buff, the good old heat of gold, philosopher stone and the ap one... anything was op at some point if played well
Poppys are still solo killing fioras. She can't Dash to get passive procs, Poppy does good %HP, and typically builds anti-heal.....
whats with the stack sunfires and take twich or evelynn meta? D:
All I can think of is when talon and leblanc had silence. Also whenever thunderlords decree was first released. Feral flare.
I remember when I played in season 4 there was a lantern jungle item and u bought spirit stone for the heal and just perma farmed on yi or udyr, cant remember if it actually was good lol
pretty sure you got 1 thing wrong. im farely certain they had unique passives on some items back when they made black cleaver. they just didn't do it for that particular item
You forgot the infamous 2 phantom dancers, 2 bloodthirster, 1 infinity edge and 1 sword of the occult
i once solo'd baron with ww while a full build twitch was hitting me the entire time and then killed twitch and was full hp again
Wow, all this time and I didn't even know Meta was an acronym
Big time! Very nice. Thank you video.
Thank you so much!
Tank Meta in Season 5 was the most fun times in league history for me.
I remember building this rune page with extra attack damage for talon and One shotting people 😂
Let me be real here for a moment. For someone who has played League since Beta, It's funny to see we never had a proper Mage meta at any point, yet people constantly complaining and wanting them to get nerfed is so poetic.
Saying that nobody had thought of making unique passives back in S3 is kind of stupid. Will of the Ancients had a unique passive for years. Only one purchase of WotA would provide you with its buff, but multiple teammates could purchase it and you could gain additional buffs that way. Lots of items had unique passives. BC was just one that didn't.
Tank Top Rengar, with Spirit visage, Old W heal, Warmog, and other items.. Healing tons, damage taken tons, as well as tons of damage with spells :D
i miss BT stack :D i remember a game with twitch where i was down to 100hp upt to full down full down xD
Funniest builds I've ever tried:
5 Malady Warwick and boots
6 Avarice Blade Gangplank
And the best one was Sunfire cape stacking with invisible heroes. You could throw an invisible Evelynn with 5 sunfire capes and kill people just by staying by them.
I miss old hp bars and the way they turned red on damage.
5.16 was one of the best patches, the only issue is it should have been done sooner. If it was done at the start of the season pros would have time to adapt. At any rate a top lane meta of juggernauts( which has basically never happened again on such a scale) is much better than an adc or tank meta. Currentlya adc's are safe with their items that give ms, but also deal insane damage. You can't reach them and they nuke you in 2 seconds.
vic tank top with kelpto still gives me nightmeres
I've played league since j4 release in season one, and I have had the displeasure of enduring every single bs meta on this list.
I feel weird knowing i experienced all of these metas, i feel like i deserve a medal
How can we forget about Jihn’s Guinsoo with more than 1k2 damage 😂
that wasnt the ONLY TIME stacking black clevers would be a meta thing in s5 they did the same thing
Reminds me of first time I hit Plat..by playing Tank Fizz top lane lmao
Not to forget the double morello meta
I think that its sad that things have to occur in professional play in order for them to actually do something about it. At least, most of the times.
but pro's push the game the hardest so It is not really strange that they expose things
META is an acronym??? I;ve used that word for over 10 years and never actually knew what it meant 😂
I miss 5 stacked blood thirsters and a last whisper on zed.
no zz'rot and banner of command?
zzrot? you talkin about the item that was bugged and trash for so long that riot removed it so players wouldnt grief by building it? the one that was completely bugged for 4 seasons and every patch in the game randomly would make it bug out even more?
yeah i guess ur right it was pretty broken
@@KaloKross you obviously don’t remember having that with banner of command in the sidelanes which would just ruin someone’s base during a set time of league. Rest of the time it was trash though
Pretty OP tbh drop zzrot halfway through top side then buff the caster/siege then push or clash on bottom, 30 sec later their top getting wreck while stalling them at bottom. 😂
Yea hiemer dinger banner was so op.
"Zed Cruz" HAHAHAHA love it
Never knew what META stood for 👍🏻
I’d say runeglaive meta was pretty broken too
And now we have TK with 7k hp, 290 armor, 350 MR. :)
armpen meta was disgusting to play
every game you have talon/zed/vi etc who oneshots players after farming 1-2 items
It was absurd
Now top is an island. A depressing one where only the most annoying champs are picked. I started to play league again after a 4 years stop. I'm thinking about leaving again because toplane is just meh.
worst lane to play if behind. Worst lane for your team to help out if behind, least influential lane if ahead
how can you not talk about stacking tiamat onehsot pentakill shyvanas or stacking archangel staff to get 5000more mana and 15% of that mana as bonus ap resulting in champs like ryze reaching up to 1500ap or more?
I learned today what META even means....
Tank meta was so much fun
ardent censer destroying worlds was riots most tonedeaf moment
I cant lie i would take any of these metas over ad mid
Ardent censer remains the worst meta of all because it wasn't just 2-6 patches long it was an entire season, an entire year of ardent censer being giga broken. It'll be hard to make a season worse than season 7, only the ADC and support mattered the other champions were all supportive characters.
I remember 6 sunfire cloaks on mundo that shit was busted 😂
Two of the Worst times I lived through were Funnel and Ardent Cancer Meta . Ironically enough busted broken early days of league were more enjoyable than these 2
Good ole days of stacking gold generating items, free monies, just bing chilling in lane 🤣
Nidalee oneshooting with Q from disgusting range with terrible hitbox
Doesnt Riot fucking understand that the only way to fix the game is to make sure my champions are always strong and never let me lose? ass company bro
5 black cleavers was OP but the sleeper was 6 Tiamat Fiora. Old Fioras ult counted as auto attacks so each hit would have the Tiamat aoe and with 6 Tiamats the aoe would hit for full damage so if you hit a ult on the whole team you would just shred everyone instantly while being untargetable 😂
once i lost to a 5 tiamat twitch , he just ulted and killed everyone in like two autos
5 IE Jhin was fun
are we not talking about league of zhonyas?
I want old swain back
Wtf klepto was season 8 ??? Aware
No way meta means
Most effective tactic available
My mind is blown 😂
you miss run glaive ezreal that thing was disgusting
ye but this video is just kinda like repeating the same things that are in 100 other videos, wont get much actual insight into things like random early season 5 stuff
drain cleaning australia!!
you forgot zz rot meta
I got a 1v5 penta on baron with 6 ninja tabis on jax
no shot
Didn’t watch yet but I’m pretty sure Ardents is #1
AP yi was fun
Captions?
where is 6 tiamat meta?
Kleptomancy was fun, what the fuck xD, not mentioning banner of command or never ending healing meta kekw
I miss Klepto ezreal
are you sure that's how the cleavers worked? I remember pantheons building multiple black cleavers and hitting literally an entire hp bar instantly with heir on-hit spray ability whatever it was called. I was under the impression that it didn't cap out at 30%, but instead added a 30 for each cleaver you had. So if you have 6 cleavers you could reach 180% armor pen and every always insta-died. Maybe im misremembering but it felt a LOT more overpowered than how it was explained in the video.
ap master yi was the best.
Ive been playing league since 2012, the game has constantly been in a broken state since then and launch. Every patch they release makes a group of 20-30 champions more or less unplayable against, its incredibly unfun idk why I play this garbage game like many of you lol
always toplaners
the video sucks, I get real insights just from the comments
silver scrapes lol
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Projecting much?
@@SilverScrapes. You are gay!
@@SilverScrapes. look guys I know a new word and now I have to vulgarize it like a peasant