I couldn't wait to see how bins were set up. I do know now that bins like this make good homes. Don't want to pour salt into an open wound, but got 3 inches of rain yesterday in a 45 minute span. Thank you thunderstorm. Have a nice day.
Wow, I know you put an extraordinary amount of time into these videos from start to finish, but I sure do appreciate it. With the informative commentary, and the super quality camera work, watching these videos is such a pleasure!
I have recently found your channel and have been binge watching a lot of your videos. Thank you for sharing your life with us all. You do an outstanding job on all the video and seem to improve all the time. Concrete! enough said. Hated working concrete right out of high school, now I just work in the aviation world.
Your off to a good start ! I didn't expect that you and your brother and father were going to be in on the building. That's nice that you get to pitch in and save some bucks! Looks great
I pour agricultural concrete for a living, and we have bin pads down to a science, but I absolutely NEED to know the style of those forms. We use steel forms but staking them is a little different with us. Also, we trench a 16 inch "rat barrier" where the bin walls sit. That's a life saver for the farmer. And we also set our center about a half inch high so water won't sit under the center sump. Just giving u some ideas if u ever put up another bin. Looks good tho!!
Pretty cool way of screeding your stone base, that’s exactly what i do for a living Concrete so i always look for better or shorting time frame in prepping the base. So i. Like it pretty easy to do it that way.
Back when I was a kid I remember when my dad built one we used all the rocks we picked up out of our fields to fill the center that was a workout. Job very well done
Great video ! With no stirator in this one ,you just go up once a month with a rake and break up the crust and then turn the fan on if needed to keep the air flowing .
Nice work! Bard is a customer of the company I work for, BASF, Bard are great people. You should put a soaker hose on that pad and wet cure for seven days or as long as you can stand it. The longer the better, and this will reduce cracking and increase strength.
I remember the last bin pad i made. 20'x100'x16". A little thicker than I would have wanted to pour it, but it's was I was told had to be done. 100 yards of concrete later we finished it. loved the work and the pad turned out great, but that was a lot of concrete.
If you are worried about not being able to stir the grain, I would look into a Shivvers mfg. dryer system. We have three bins with them in them at three bin sites, excellent grain quality and near perfect moisture percentage.
When placing concrete at that depth a concrete vibrator should always be used to consolidate the concrete. I did however like seeing the rebar being raised to allow the concrete to flow around the rebar. Looks great!
Great video Ryan! About ten years ago i helped my uncle and my cousin level the concrete foundation for their 40X90' machinery shed;we didnt install rebars in the concrete! they put instead small fibers in the concrete and they (the concrete company)said that fibers are stronger than rebars...We wernt so sure of that and today there are cracks in the foundation...
As a Civil Engineering Inspector, to much concrete will crack with out expansion joints, we also need to consider expansion and contraction of the concrete due to weather conditions. I would recommend concrete tests such as air entrainment, slump tests and compression cylinders. Also a couple of compaction tests on the fill would be a good idea to ensure there would be no excessive settling after the bin is constructed and filled with crops. There will be a lot weight on that concrete depending on the moisture content of the stored crop. Food for thought. Good luck buddy, great video, Thanks. Mark, Bemidji, MN. subscriber.
mark allen you realize they are putting 10,000 pound cylinder on 120,000 pounds of concrete with. 30 inch thickened edge where are you suggesting this thing will go?
Mark did you know that the dryer the grain or soybeans are the more dense. Specific weight or lbs per bushel volume. The psi of the grain column is about 14 lbs/inch. If grain gains moisture in storage it expands and can rupture the bin.
Ya know I didn't think about that but that makes perfect sense. All my testing experience was in soil, concrete material testing for roads, highways, buildings etc. Thanks for expanding my farming testing knowledge. :) m
Larger bins typically require some excavation and packing of appropriate fill material clay etc. most often we will dig a footer as well to deter rodents from burrowing etc...
One should dig the out side foundation below the grown level, 2 feet deep would be ideal, instead of build what they call a floating slab. Hold up much better in the long run.
I'm working for a farmer pulling corn to our local ethanol plants. I've become so intrigued by how things get to where they are and how they're built since working with them. I've always been told to work for a farmer when it comes to getting trucking experience. I understand why now. If they like you they'll bend over backwards for a guy. I started at harvest this year and thought I was only temporary..... nope..... lol i've become a fixture since october. But I wouldn't have it any other way. My hats off to you guys. Kill yourselves day in and day out and gotta be a jack of all trades!
My thoughts exactly. A vibrator is always used to consolidate freshly poured concrete to insure most of the air has been removed. Air pockets reduce the strength significantly.
rock creek fabrication it's a grain bin so yes it should have a would base under it not gravel on top of top soil we are putting up a bin 1/3 the size and are removing all the dirt down to the clay
Thanks Wayne, yes it was a first for me, we have the traditional back deposit of concrete ones and the type for casting first level floor casting with the long spout, but this one looks futuristic.
Jan Kotze, It depends where you are in the U.S.A. Here in Ct, most of the concrete trucks are front discharge and they are the best option in my opinion, the driver can pull up to within inches with no help, stop the unloading with just eyesight, quicker to move into position, etc.
With all the video equipment you have, and if it has the capability have you ever thought about or tried to so a time lapse video of the bin construction?
7:40 concrete compression strengh varies depending on class of cement used. Generaly tho the less water than is necessery you use the stronger concrete you get. Tension strengh of concrete is ~10% of compression strengh. Steel is there for tension because it's as strong in tension as in compression, but steel is generaly much more expencive. Offtopic note: if you have concrete ceiling/ floor it's better if it fails in compression than in tension. In compression it will break, settle but will be still holding, giving you realy clear warning to get out. In tension it would just snap and fail with very little warning.
Concrete will be fine houses in europe are build like this and theres no issues at all after hundreds of years however its weird that you didnt compacted that rock it would be really solid if you compact it before concrete
the rock he used is in the 90 percent range compaction look up 57s compaction charts some but surprised he didn't pour a footer if water gets under it and freezes it will try to lift but don't know how the ground is there so cant say if it will or wont looks like its gonna be fine for the 20yr plan
Videos keep getting better and better. Between u and Travis u guys have the best channels out there. Keep up the great work guys!!! Slow motion shots are outstanding
Wow! I’ve never seen a grain bin built like this before! Is this more common? Would a thought you would need to dig down to the frost line for footings! Especially for the amount of weight you put in these things!!???
Ryan Seppanen why would that be. Every bin I have seen built they vibrate it and we have 6. Our shop and shed floors were all vibrated. My father who sold and poured concrete for 50 years says you always compact it, or it will settle and there is nothing to support the concrete and you get cracks.
If the stone had more fines in it it would be a bigger issue but that looks like 6A stone - the rocks will interlock under weight and won't move. Now the ground underneath is a different story. Ideally I would want to dig that out and put in compacted sand, but obviously that's an additional cost. I would imagine the old bin they're replacing wasn't built much differently and the concrete has outlasted the bin.
Kuster Elevators & Grain Storage Potosi WI. You guys are going start pushing the big guys (e.g. AM, Cargill, etc.) Easier watching somebody else put concrete down then doing yourself. Nice Job Dad, Travis, and Ryan
I would have thought that the auger to get the grain out would have been set into the base. Does it instead sit on top of the base? I guess depends on design. Thanks for another great video :)
TheTomBevis what happened or was said at 10:34 that has to do with this. If there is any corn sitting directly on that concrete they have a huge problem.
From Brazil, The world does not live without agriculture, it is the basis of everything, God bless the United States
From the U.S Thanks !
With all the abandonment of american farms lately, it's encouraging to see a farm expanding! Bless you!
I couldn't wait to see how bins were set up. I do know now that bins like this make good homes. Don't want to pour salt into an open wound, but got 3 inches of rain yesterday in a 45 minute span. Thank you thunderstorm. Have a nice day.
Dad is the man! He can do anything.
Wow, I know you put an extraordinary amount of time into these videos from start to finish, but I sure do appreciate it. With the informative commentary, and the super quality camera work, watching these videos is such a pleasure!
TJ Bearing thanks TJ!
InstaBlaster.
And that's how it's done....great video Ryan!! Would like to see the grain bin when it is all finished.
My favorite part is the Oshkosh cement truck! I more then likely painted it! Nice to see something I helped build here in Wisconsin help you!
I have recently found your channel and have been binge watching a lot of your videos. Thank you for sharing your life with us all. You do an outstanding job on all the video and seem to improve all the time. Concrete! enough said. Hated working concrete right out of high school, now I just work in the aviation world.
This is soothing to watch
Thank you Ryan for a well done video and commentary. You are a good educator. Look forward to rest of the build.
Ive always loved watching concrete being worked. Idk why
That 79 calf is so cute .
You've outdone yourself with the editing on this one. Great job Ryan!
Your off to a good start ! I didn't expect that you and your brother and father were going to be in on the building. That's nice that you get to pitch in and save some bucks! Looks great
Looking fwd to the construction steps. Grain leg and more bins in the future years and $ available. Build as much as possible own your own, yes!
I pour agricultural concrete for a living, and we have bin pads down to a science, but I absolutely NEED to know the style of those forms. We use steel forms but staking them is a little different with us. Also, we trench a 16 inch "rat barrier" where the bin walls sit. That's a life saver for the farmer. And we also set our center about a half inch high so water won't sit under the center sump. Just giving u some ideas if u ever put up another bin. Looks good tho!!
What does it cost to have a foundation done for a grain silo that's 15' across? Just curious
Very impressed with the 8
Pretty cool way of screeding your stone base, that’s exactly what i do for a living Concrete so i always look for better or shorting time frame in prepping the base. So i. Like it pretty easy to do it that way.
A lot of useful information about grain bin's base. Good luck with grain bin's build.
Back when I was a kid I remember when my dad built one we used all the rocks we picked up out of our fields to fill the center that was a workout. Job very well done
Thanks Ryan for the video .
Hello, My name Viet, I come from Vietnam, I am really like your chennal, and i see alot of your videos, it is really excited.
Glad you like them!
Great video. Hope everything goes good. And the rain stays away when not needed
Great video ! With no stirator in this one ,you just go up once a month with a rake and break up the crust and then turn the fan on if needed to keep the air flowing .
Nice work! Bard is a customer of the company I work for, BASF, Bard are great people. You should put a soaker hose on that pad and wet cure for seven days or as long as you can stand it. The longer the better, and this will reduce cracking and increase strength.
Ryan and Travis and Dad nice video and dad has the skills in the family he was smoothing out the pad for the equipment to run the bin.
Looking forward to seeing the finished bin.. Thanks for sharing Ryan..
I remember the last bin pad i made. 20'x100'x16". A little thicker than I would have wanted to pour it, but it's was I was told had to be done. 100 yards of concrete later we finished it. loved the work and the pad turned out great, but that was a lot of concrete.
Great video . Taking the time to do the pad right pays off in the end with a structure that last and function properly.
Corn-crete!!! Great vid always enjoy these builds
If you are worried about not being able to stir the grain, I would look into a Shivvers mfg. dryer system. We have three bins with them in them at three bin sites, excellent grain quality and near perfect moisture percentage.
Very nice video Ryan! Love all of the cool camera angles and shots of the process.
When placing concrete at that depth a concrete vibrator should always be used to consolidate the concrete. I did however like seeing the rebar being raised to allow the concrete to flow around the rebar. Looks great!
Good looking slump ya pouring. Peace, God Bless America...
I can't wait till the harvest videos!!!
base looks great. i helped a buddy do a foundation very similar to yours about 5 yrs ago. holding up good so far.
Looks perfect guys.
Great video Ryan! About ten years ago i helped my uncle and my cousin level the concrete foundation for their 40X90' machinery shed;we didnt install rebars in the concrete! they put instead small fibers in the concrete and they (the concrete company)said that fibers are stronger than rebars...We wernt so sure of that and today there are cracks in the foundation...
That's a pretty slick leveling device.
Thanks for uploading, I've always wondered how this was done.
Very interesting. I never knew how they put up the gain bins.
Awesome! That’s always an exciting feeling!
As a Civil Engineering Inspector, to much concrete will crack with out expansion joints, we also need to consider expansion and contraction of the concrete due to weather conditions. I would recommend concrete tests such as air entrainment, slump tests and compression cylinders. Also a couple of compaction tests on the fill would be a good idea to ensure there would be no excessive settling after the bin is constructed and filled with crops. There will be a lot weight on that concrete depending on the moisture content of the stored crop. Food for thought. Good luck buddy, great video, Thanks. Mark, Bemidji, MN. subscriber.
mark allen you realize they are putting 10,000 pound cylinder on 120,000 pounds of concrete with. 30 inch thickened edge where are you suggesting this thing will go?
Mark did you know that the dryer the grain or soybeans are the more dense. Specific weight or lbs per bushel volume. The psi of the grain column is about 14 lbs/inch. If grain gains moisture in storage it expands and can rupture the bin.
Ya know I didn't think about that but that makes perfect sense. All my testing experience was in soil, concrete material testing for roads, highways, buildings etc. Thanks for expanding my farming testing knowledge. :) m
Larger bins typically require some excavation and packing of appropriate fill material clay etc. most often we will dig a footer as well to deter rodents from burrowing etc...
Great video, thanks!
One should dig the out side foundation below the grown level, 2 feet deep would be ideal, instead of build what they call a floating slab. Hold up much better in the long run.
Also keeps mice out better
I'm working for a farmer pulling corn to our local ethanol plants. I've become so intrigued by how things get to where they are and how they're built since working with them. I've always been told to work for a farmer when it comes to getting trucking experience. I understand why now. If they like you they'll bend over backwards for a guy. I started at harvest this year and thought I was only temporary..... nope..... lol i've become a fixture since october. But I wouldn't have it any other way. My hats off to you guys. Kill yourselves day in and day out and gotta be a jack of all trades!
Next time ~ consider removing the top soil with vegetation before starting your gravel subgrade foundation pad.
Great stuff Ryan, turned out very well:):)
I had to always be the guy to pull the striker around the slab while the cement was wet. What a work out.
Really nice job. Good job on the eight I did not know as well if i would have gone left to right or right to left on the eight.
Such a satisfying video!
Your youtube channel is more interesting than Discovery Max hajaj
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No plastic and regular wetting down to slow the curing for a stronger result?
Great video Ryan your editing skills are superb.
You don't compact the gravel or use vibratory consolidator on the concrete?
My thoughts exactly. A vibrator is always used to consolidate freshly poured concrete to insure most of the air has been removed. Air pockets reduce the strength significantly.
I was surprised that they didn't remove the top soil before putting down the stone.
Can't pack washed stone and it's a grain bin
rock creek fabrication it's a grain bin so yes it should have a would base under it not gravel on top of top soil we are putting up a bin 1/3 the size and are removing all the dirt down to the clay
You most certainly do, you should do it in lifts of no more than 6" and the sod should be removed from the ground.
This is a great video, never seen a concrete truck like that, it is massive.
Jan For some reason they have them like that in USA and UK I don't know where else.
Thanks Wayne, yes it was a first for me, we have the traditional back deposit of concrete ones and the type for casting first level floor casting with the long spout, but this one looks futuristic.
Works out a lot easier because the driver can move the truck as needed and control the pour at the same time.
Thank You
Jan Kotze, It depends where you are in the U.S.A. Here in Ct, most of the concrete trucks are front discharge and they are the best option in my opinion, the driver can pull up to within inches with no help, stop the unloading with just eyesight, quicker to move into position, etc.
With all the video equipment you have, and if it has the capability have you ever thought about or tried to so a time lapse video of the bin construction?
I actually did a time lapse of raising the bin last time in 2015 and will be doing the same this time.
How Farms Work 👍 I guess I'll have to go back and look. I don't recall it. Thanks
nice job, and congratulations on the new bin
Great video I want to build one some day and its great to see how its done! Thanks for the great shots and showing how it is accomplished!
Great video😃, looking foward to harvest season now😃
That is a nice start, but their is a lot of more work to do! Good luck my friend!
Great video I'm also a farmer from india
7:40 concrete compression strengh varies depending on class of cement used. Generaly tho the less water than is necessery you use the stronger concrete you get. Tension strengh of concrete is ~10% of compression strengh. Steel is there for tension because it's as strong in tension as in compression, but steel is generaly much more expencive.
Offtopic note: if you have concrete ceiling/ floor it's better if it fails in compression than in tension. In compression it will break, settle but will be still holding, giving you realy clear warning to get out. In tension it would just snap and fail with very little warning.
Concrete will be fine houses in europe are build like this and theres no issues at all after hundreds of years however its weird that you didnt compacted that rock it would be really solid if you compact it before concrete
the rock he used is in the 90 percent range compaction look up 57s compaction charts some but surprised he didn't pour a footer if water gets under it and freezes it will try to lift but don't know how the ground is there so cant say if it will or wont looks like its gonna be fine for the 20yr plan
Awesome vid Ryan
Good job one and all!
Your dad does everything
Nice slump !
Just wondering if you guys removed the topsoil before adding gravel?
building g grain bins
Wow another wanabe knowit all.
Videos keep getting better and better. Between u and Travis u guys have the best channels out there. Keep up the great work guys!!! Slow motion shots are outstanding
Great video Ryan
Love the video best RUclips channel ever
I love your videos Ryan!
Adding all that gravel is just as strong if not better as long as it is packed down properly in 8-12” lifts.
Wow! I’ve never seen a grain bin built like this before! Is this more common? Would a thought you would need to dig down to the frost line for footings! Especially for the amount of weight you put in these things!!???
Ryan, the bin that was starting to collapse, will you all be dismantling that one and rebuilding on the foundation?
I gotcha. thank you.
So is the new bin close enough to link the 2 bins with a walkway at the top to save putting on a second staircase? it saved us a pile on our 25k
Did they have you compact that gravel. When they have built our bins they spent a day just compacting the gravel.
Jeff Gixer this is rock. It doesnt have a binding material in it so no need to compact.
Brando Camando agree.
We start harvesting barley in next few weeks. Yay!
Great vid, subscribed and will stay tuned!
That's satisfying to watch
Awesome stuff right here. Learned a few things as well. Thank you
Did they run a vibra pack over the gravel after it was all leveled off? Great vid and explanations!
dsm reloader that way my question.
This is rock there's no need to compact it.
Ryan Seppanen why would that be. Every bin I have seen built they vibrate it and we have 6. Our shop and shed floors were all vibrated. My father who sold and poured concrete for 50 years says you always compact it, or it will settle and there is nothing to support the concrete and you get cracks.
Ryan Seppanen gravel and rock are the same thing. It all settles and compacts over time.
If the stone had more fines in it it would be a bigger issue but that looks like 6A stone - the rocks will interlock under weight and won't move. Now the ground underneath is a different story. Ideally I would want to dig that out and put in compacted sand, but obviously that's an additional cost. I would imagine the old bin they're replacing wasn't built much differently and the concrete has outlasted the bin.
Kuster Elevators & Grain Storage Potosi WI. You guys are going start pushing the big guys (e.g. AM, Cargill, etc.) Easier watching somebody else put concrete down then doing yourself. Nice Job Dad, Travis, and Ryan
I would have thought that the auger to get the grain out would have been set into the base. Does it instead sit on top of the base? I guess depends on design. Thanks for another great video :)
Corncrete:
(1) Some first attempts at cooking cornbread.
(2) Concrete that will have a huge amount of corn sitting on it!
TheTomBevis there won't really be any corn sitting directly on that concrete.
You must have missed 10:34.
TheTomBevis what happened or was said at 10:34 that has to do with this.
If there is any corn sitting directly on that concrete they have a huge problem.
He misspoke and called it corncrete. I was just making light of that.
TheTomBevis ok, I was just saying there won't be any corn on that concrete.
Wow your camera looks great!!! Nice work!!
You guys should get a full air system
I was hoping you would sign and date on the foundation... looks like we all love to leave our signatures in the base lol
What is the name of the document that is printed with the informations about weight and quality of the product?
Packing list, entry count...?
How come y'all did not put down a moisture barrier. before the rocks?
Great work
Keep up the goood work!
And video is, great as always :)
Greeting's from Croatia!
LOL Wes was just commenting this morning about how he doesn't like grain bins with concrete floors
This bin won’t have a concrete floor, the cement is the foundation and the floor will be steel.
Nice work
Great video!!
Great job.
Good stuff!
Nice, are you ever going to fix that 10k bushel bin, or is it still usable? Thanks for the video Ryan.
Send that rain down to tx we need it badly