Windows 11 24H2 Update: New System Requirements & How to Check Your CPU Compatibility
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Discover the new system requirements for Windows 11 24H2, including the enforced POPCNT CPU requirement. Learn how to check if your CPU meets the criteria with easy verification methods. Stay ahead with our comprehensive guide on Windows 11 24H2's latest updates and ensure your system is ready for the upgrade. Watch now to get all the details!
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Look for SSE4A if you use an AMD processor and SSE4.2 if you use an old Intel chip.
Download utilities to check whether or not your CPU can run Windows 11 24H2:
cpuid/cpu-z: www.cpuid.com/...
WhyNotAI: github.com/bui...
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Do you think Microsoft was wrong for doing this in the middle of the life cycle of an OS? Should they have waited until Windows 12?
Well I am
in the insurance world and some carriers only use win based systems and plus Folks always send files to my text that I would like to easily go back and forth .
Windows was wrong, IMO, for trying to make a large potion of the installed base of computers unable to run an OS that should by all rights be able to do so.
The are acting like a petulant child who is not getting their way and storms off angrily, taking their "toy" with them.
Windows 11 don't run in a Dual core anyway. They did more damage with TPM 2.0 🥱
Windows 11 is garbage as it is. More reason to move away from Windows as a whole unless absolutely necessary.
Microsoft has been doing so many Wrong things lately, I've lost count.
It's a conspiracy between Microdoft and computer manufacturers to sell more copies of Windows and computer hardware to use that new OS.
LoL, that actually crossed my mind as well.
I will no longer buy a computer that has windblows installed. If they don't offer Linux, give me the bare system or I will find someone that does.
Planned obsolescence in actgon.
@@Steven_VE9SY or build your own
so forcing users who still use cpu pre-2013 to buy cpu after 2013?
This is amazing. People want to use MS product but MS doesn't want them to use it. Quite interesting business model this is.
Definitely interesting to put a hard stop on something right in the middle of an OS life cycle.
@peek5548 But how's online gaming on Linux nowadays? As far as I know anti-cheat is still a problem?
well yeah I mean you would think Microsoft would adapt by well you know learning from their successes and failures to make Windows better but when in their history has kicking people off old hardware have they had any success I am so confused on that one they do not seem to learn windows xp could have been made better and better but instead they abandoned it same for windows 7 and now 10 no one wants an ai VCR but they seem to be wanting us to have that now with windows 11 and a brand new computer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@YoStu242 getting to be better then windows gaming to be honest if I could find a good video on how to setup a linux distro like Garuda on my computer to work with my nvidia gpu and have sound in game I would switch to it in a heart beat
Just a good advertisement to start using Linux on that older hardware.
You're not lying.
Wait until you learn about Linux distros requiring x86-64-v3, which not all CPU's which support PopCNT support. So, is Linux going to really be the better choice? If distros start requiring v3, then Linux becomes stricter than even Windows as at least PopCNT includes all Core i series CPU's (and AMD's down to the FX), whereas V3 does not.
I would just suggest a windows mini pc instead of replacing the older hardware as they will run the same. The very old hardware and the low end of 2024 well the low end of 2024 sometimes is better than the high end of 16 years ago as SSE4.2 was put into CPUs in 2008.
If it is a computer just for avg user stuff windows 10 will keep on being good until around march of 2026 when a security patch for windows 11 will come but not for windows 10. 2 years to decide to either get a mini PC with as many ports as a full size desktop has for most prebuilts or go with linux with their current one which will require entirely new programs to use. So rebuying license keys for linux or finding free software for linux that does the same which will come with it's own learning a new software thing too.
Then you have to go to which costs more? A mini PC with windows 11 already installed or rebuying software and/or the time needed to learn the software for linux on a slower machine?
well no not really unless your willing to go back to school learning how fix Linux driver issues not to mention NO support for app's like photoshop and other app's Linux is only good for some things even Linux app's don't work out of the box I use Linux before it's not that good that is if you can get one to work right then it's just for browsing the web a cheap tablet can do better
😢 Linux Mint is starting to look a whole lot better 😊
Right?
Exactly. I am going to install Mint on some older hardware and start learning it.
some people don't want and Linux distro at all i simply will not buy a new computer and stick with windows 10.
@@supersaiyaman11589 are you going to pay for the Extended support, or just roll without security updates after 2025?
@@theit-unicorn1873 im just going to go without security updates.
Intel has had SSE4.2 since 2009, so we're talking about 15 years. It certainly used to be fun to run Windows 2000 on a 386 CPU. All those who are threatening to switch to Linux will not do so for the most part. Guys, after 15 years buy a mini PC with an N100 processor for a little more than 100 dollars. Your electricity bill will soon pay for the system.
Yeah, 15 year old PCs running Windows 11 are probably not common, but I'm sure they are out there. I agree regarding the mini PCs, just picked one up last month for my second office.
Yeah exactly 90% of the people that have used the bypass to get Windows 11 installed on their older machines won't have any problem doing the same for 24H2. If your using a 15 year old machine to run Windows, man I feel sad for you cause that thing is going to be SLOW!
I think this requirement is less bad than the initial system requirements for Windows 11. Windows 11 required 8th gen and above for Intel, and Zen 2 and above for AMD to run Windows 11 without modifications or hacks. This means when Windows 11 was released (back in October 2021) 5+ year old Intel PCs and 2.5+ year old AMD PCs were considered to not meet the minimum requirements. This cutoff personally for me was absurd.
This SSE4 requirement affects (as of now) 16+ year old Intel PCs and 17+ year old AMD PCs. For these PCs, if you really need Windows, I suggest Windows 10 (the last officially supported version), as you'll get feature updates up to Oct 2025, and security updates up to Oct 2028. By that time your PC is already around 20+ years old. Windows 11 23H2 will also get updates by up to 2025, but for security updates better move back to Windows 10.
If by 2028 your 22+-year-old PCs is still alive I highly suggest running Linux. You'll get better performance due to Linux being leaner and not bloated like Windows. If you really need Windows, get something used that's newer than your 22+ year old PC (by 2028) for $100+ on eBay. Then you can run Windows 11 (via modifications) again.
Very good input, thanks for chiming in!
I agree many thread ripper PCs were also axed but mine still runs fine on windows 11 even running the insider program.
I'm running Windows 11 Pro on a Celeron Quad Core it run smoothly and fast with only 4 GB RAM
@@totzinfo yes you can unofficially install it if it don't supported it's not really slow . Honestly windows 10 is slower tbh.
How insane that can be for not being able to run a newer build of Windows 11 on your current CPU.
well depends on your cpu how old is it?
because if it's 8th gen intel or newer it's new enough 2nd gen ryzen or newer good enough according to Microsoft but people not wanting to buy a new computer are leaving slash being kick from Microsoft windows and forced to learn mac or linux strange business model Microsoft is going for it will fail and bite them in the ass in the end🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@raven4k998 Ryzen 2000 is supported which is Zen + it has the same features including POPCN as Zen i.e Ryzen 1000, heck even Bulldozer support POPCN as part of the SSE4A instruction set. So what Microsoft says in factually wrong and very misleading.
I switched over to Linux and having a ton of fun to be honest. I should have done earlier. Thanks of Windows 11 for pushing me to Linux.
Which distro? I'm planning to install Linux as a dual boot on my current 8 year old laptop alongside Win10.
@@terrorbilly1 I prefer Arch based distro . I use EndevourOS and Manjaro. I also use Pop OS which is fork of Ubuntu.
The distros I suggest for new linux users would be Linux Mint, Pop OS, EnedevouroS and Manjaro.
@@terrorbilly1 For laptops.... Ubuntu, PopOS ( nvidia ), TUXEDO OS or Fedora. These are some of your best bets for hardware support. ( Linux is plug and play, it either works or its not supported and that's that. )
That's cool! Any constraints/times where you NEED Windows?
@@theit-unicorn1873 I thought my main issue would be gaming. But Proton layer with Steam made it easy. Now I can play most games on Linux.
CPUs above Core2Duo will not be affected. These are very old & most of the people using these will be planning to replace those. So it's not a big deal.
It's not a big deal for most users, agree.
@dreaper5813Why bother? 2nd, 3rd, even 4th gen CPUs are at the same price level.
Still rocking a 13 year old laptop myself, works amazing for me and it can keep up with newer laptops through sheer brute force. Been trying to delay the migration to Windows 11 because it just sucks, but I should be able to bypass the "requirements" easily. Probook 4430s with a Gen2 i7 2630qm, 16gb ram, and a 1tb SSD. Main bottleneck is the integrated graphics
I just found this video. It's 7 days old. I checked on my system and it says there are no new updates available and that my current installation is up-to-date. So when is 24H2 going to come out? My system uses a ryzen 5 and I downloaded cpu-z and it shows that I'm good to go.
I have never liked this OS, I was at first a Mac User. But I'm an 100% Linux user.
Nice! What's your distro of choice? Do you ever find yourself "NEEDING" Windows?
How many of you out there choose the graphic drivers that you want to run, then pick a graphics card that supports them?
How many of you choose what tires you want, then shop for a car that they will fit on?
Nobody?
Then why is it now considered normal to get hardware to support your OS, rather than the OS being designed to support existing hardware?
How many different tyre choices do you have compared to OSs? Besides, you have a choice of models that require different tyres. Actually, not a very good comparator at all, is it? Nor are graphics card drivers, seeing that a Radeon card cannot use Nvidia drivers and vice versa.
Windows 11 isn't nearly as highly adopted as Windows 10. Yes I know, support for 10 will "allegedly" end (free) in 2025. I have an 10 year old machine that still runs and it's not going into the trash as MS wants. It turned into sludge when I installed 11 even running Titus's script so I back peddled. The CPU runs at a minimal percentage at idle with 10. Windows 11 ran it nearly 40 percent just idling. I realize we have to move with the times but I don't like having a monopoly corporation dictating.
I'm running Windows 11 24H2 on a Celeron Quad Core 4GB RAM and just running smoothly and more better with 8GB also using Nvidia 1040 video card
@@totzinfo I'd be interested in seeing your performance tab idling.
It is about time that Intel and AMD are implementing high level instruction to make software functions easier. I worked on mainframe computers for 50 years and going back to the late 1960 , the mainframe had a count binary ones instruction for error correction/detection and later encryption algorithms.
Wow! 50 Years on mainframe? AMAZING!
Thank you, your presentation was very clear and concise. Thank you for the links in the description, mine passed. I'm glad my Ryzen 5 3600 passed the test, I would have been upset because I just bought it in the first part of 2021 and is part of my new computer.
Pretty much any AMD or Intel processor from the last 15 years includes this instruction. I checked my old computers and I'm good.
Nice! Better safe than sorry, doesn't hurt to check.
It just shows how disconnected microsoft is right now with the inflation of the cost of living people are having trouble to feed their families and pay their rent let alone buying new pc or hardware.
It shows with the slow adoption of windows 11 people don't want to buy new pc or hardware to use it.
Very true. Bad timing from Microsoft for the folks that will require a PC upgrade.
If you want to check with Linux, lscpu in a terminal will tell you explicitly if popcnt is supported (at least, it does with my Ryzen 5900X). (or 'lscpu | grep popcnt' will filter out the noise).
Nice! Thanks for the awesome pro tip!
Most intel cpus after core2duo/quad will likely have popcnt.
oh SSE4.2 that is a thing everything since 2008 has had so like there should be a date of how far back you can support. 16 years seems extreme in my mind for a consumer machine as most do not keep their machines for more than 10 years as most will have had a necessary component to run fail before. Even the ones who can keep it until it fails get a new one before 16 years has passed.
Yeah, it would have to be an OLD proc, but still, couldn't they hold off until 12?
@@theit-unicorn1873 Why? You would have made a lot less revenue from YT if they did. 22k views for video that treats an non-existent problem is impressive.
im confused, CPU Z says my processor has the SSE 4.2 yet Microsoft update tells me i cant run Windows 11.
Does it tell you why? Could be a different issue like TPM.
@@theit-unicorn1873 not sure, wasnt aware of TPM. ill have a look at it, tyvm for responding and ty for the vid.
@@T.R.75 of course, thanks for checking it out!
Ready for installing Linux Mint if that happens end of story 🙄
@dreaper5813 I already have my reasons for not switching. I use my machine for content creation and the free, open source alternatives are lacklustre at best aside from blender
Then you find out they will compile to x86_64-v2
🎶When I see you again
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh🎶
Linux or MacOS. I can't even get past the recivery partition issue with recent Wn10 update.
It's always something with WIndows.....
Well I checked, and my 8320fx CPU has them both. Not bothered to upgrade to ryzen yet, my old system can still game decently.
Nice!
Ahahaha, that Cat "WHAT" animation half a minute into the video reminds me of those classic Windows XP and Vista pop ups from websites back in the day, especially of those female dancers and the likes.
LOL oh man I do remember that, unfortunately hahaha
Most people dont care, they are switching back to Windows 10. MS screwed the pooch with this update, requiring things that make no sense. I can run Windows 11 on a toaster and it works fine. I have a launch GMK Nuc which is a low powered Celeron with a garbage iGPU in it with 8g RAM, well it runs on that fine. I can also install it on a MS Surface Pro 3 with 4g RAM and it runs there too. It was dumb of MS to think people could afford or even need to buy a new computer. For me however its a mute point as I left Windows years ago and only used it for testing, since I have multiple PC its easy to just install whatever on a low powered on and work using my main one. Yes, I use Linux and even game on it, cause I dont play most "AAA" multiplayer garbage games that install a root kit.
Thanks for your input. For LInux, do you stick with one distro, or hop around?
@@theit-unicorn1873 I stick with one Distro, Arch. If you are new to Linux I would use either Debian, Fedora, or LinuxMint Debian Edition. If you are experienced or dont mind the terminal then EndeavourOS or Vanilla Arch. All those Linux Distros I listed work on older machines and weak ones perfectly. I have over 400 games on Steam and I can count on one hand the ones that dont work.
Nice! My 4790K supports POPCNT, time to download and install 24H2. 😂💀
That's a tank from the 4th gen!
monopolizing.....i think this fits perfectly....
I mean, it's what they do best ;-)
Hasn't popcnt been in cpus since like 2007? I'm not the most knowledgeable lmk if I'm wrong
You are correct, roughly 2007-2008
Microsoft have already reporting that my processor is not suitable.
I wanted to upgrade my computer to Windows 11 this month.
So I can forget about it now? I hope there will be a crack.
It's just a trade agreement with the computer industry.
Yeah, I'm interested to see if there will be a crack/workaround later on.
Most modern Inter CPU's support POPCNT.. My Core i5 5300 ( Broadwell-U ) has SSE4.2
Would not be surprised if MS pulls some other shady crap to stop installs.
You never know what Billy Boy is thinking 🤔
Another way to verify popcnt is to boot a Linux distro from USB; open a terminal, enter 'lscpu' and press enter. It will show (if available) in the flags section.
In memorium 😞
( 🎶It's been a long day...)
Pentium 4
Sempron 3000+
(🎶Without you my friend...)
Celeron D 331
Athlon 64 x2 5600+
Core 2 duo E6750
(🎶And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again)
LOL!
Just disable updates by setting your internet connection to "metered" to prevent this update from ever being downloaded. Since I did this, no more updates are being applied whenever I shutdown my pc. And I'll keep it that way. I ran Win7 for over 13 years without updates and it was still running fine last year. Until Steam forced me to install Win10 and also Satisfactory due to running Unreal Engine 5. But since I got a new pc, they kinda forced Win11 upon me. It works but I have ads disabled and now updates too.
I run Linux Mint on my Desk top PC and Zorin OS on my Laptop. But I am having plenty of laughs reading Windows users comment on what MS is doing to them. The poor me comments lmao!! Folks anyone can install Linux, even a 10 year old.
Yep. You’re that guy. Windows is ass but you came to a Windows video just to flex Linux. Geek 😂
Zorin OS is NICE!
@dreaper5813 I use Mint and MacOS but it’s just cringe coming to a Windows video just to let everyone know you’re a Linux user 😂
Great way to get those windows users to try Linux by antagonizing them. I've been saying for years one of Linux's biggest problems is Linux users and here's an example pf that.
@dreaper5813 You’re literally saying this as a person that has a higher understanding of operating systems. Put your feet in the shoes of an average gamer or general user. They have every right to complain, they aren’t choosing Microsoft, they just buying a computer with it pre installed. They might not even know what an OS is let alone there are alternatives.
CPU Z download it way too confusing as there are many ads all over and Im not sure what I downloading.
Microsoft trying SO HARD to be apple . . .
@dreaper5813 Exactly. Can't wait for SteamOS to release fully to the public.
Time to use Linux Mint or AntiX then.
I may have a cpu m$ want to support still running windows 10 as there’s so much you have to turn off on windows 11 like ads in start menu
I will say that it has gotten better, in some ways. Have you seen Tiny11?
Looks like my CPU checks out, but I'm only at TPM 1.2. At least I see from the CPU list from WhyNotAI that there are lots of used PCs that come with Win 11 Pro and should be fine, but as a casual gamer and someone who likes to dabble with the occasional virtual machine, I'm looking at potentially having to spend a bit more. What a shame! My old Optiplex 9020 is running 23H2 so well! In every respect, it's doing the jobs I give it!!
lol pop cnt with letter u added to it would be what Microsoft is
lol!
forget about windows.... linux forever
If you don't NEED Windows, that's awesome!
The only users that will be affected are enthusiasts running modified versions of Windows 11 on 15+ year-old chips like Core 2 Duos or Athlon 64's. PopCnt has been supported since the Intel Nehalem and AMD Phenom II era - 14 years ago
My pc is pretty old, has an Intel I5 2320 CPU that supports SSE 4.2 but does not meet many other Windows 11 requirements so I would seriously doubt that this new "line in the sand" will have much, if any, effect on any pc currently running Win 11 after whatever update installs and enables this change.
Hello,
This works in Vmware Workstation pro VM, the CPU-Z App?
Yes, it should. You will get the underlying specs of the PC running VMWare. Also, you'll see what has been allocated to the VM.
I just checked two of my computers, my Linux laptop can run Windows 11 and my Windows 10 NUC cannot. Oh, the irony!
Seriously?? That’s too funny! 😂
Ironically the Ryzen 1st gen supports all them features and heck even the core i5 th gen supports them features SSE4.2 yet are not officially supported.
Now Microsoft says 1st gen Ryzen is not supported as it requires a very specific feature, POPCNT like you said, yet the funny thing is Ryzen + i.e 2000 doesn't support it either technically, yet checking pictures of CPU-z of these processors all have SSE4A yet. there almost no difference between a Ryzen 1000 and Ryzen 2000 yet one is supported and the other is not and have the same hardware features including the POPCNT.
Heck even the Athlon 5150 has SSE4A instructions and this is a bulldozer CPU! Microsoft need to not use a siv to hold water because their excuses has even more holes!
just updated my CPU and BIOS for this reason.
I also thing that they continue to demonstrate that they don't care about their shrinking market share, this stunt is why
Very funky on their end.
The Formula 1 team Alpine also uses Microsoft, Now I understand why they are at the back of the grid.
Loll
Just did a quick check, the Intel Core i7-12700H CPU in my new Asus TUF Gaming F15 laptop features SSE4.2, so, it looks like I will be able to run Windows 11 24H2 on it, cool.
So far Microsoft is going further into the dirty nasty world:
- Ads in the OS
- Requiring M$ Account for you to use your computer
- Force Bitlocker on you so your data can't be recovered in the event of a disk corruption. (Sorry all your photos are lost forever because you didn't pay for the premium OneDrive backup)
- Requiring TPM 2.0
- Requiring certain CPU instructions for it to work. In other worlds it's fine to run two builds where one has the updated code and the other not.
- Trying more and more to look like Mac OS. (F*k those borderless windows and "snap" functions)
Last decent Windows was Windows 7, after that they have gone into the path of really messing up things for users.
How long till someone writes a api for POPCNT that can be added to a VHD to run 24H2!
Now that I would like to see.
What for? Pathological love for Windows OS? If you are forced to use Windows at work let them pay for the upgrades. For all other purposes there are better choices these days...
I got my PCs locked to Windows 10 22H2 in Group Policy Editor, and never upgrade to Windows 11.
Nice pro tip on the GP. What are your plans after Win 10 EOL next year?
@@theit-unicorn1873just gonna keep using it. I've still got a laptop running Windows 8.1, and it runs perfectly fine.
I followed Britec09's tip in this video for my Windows 10 Pro: ruclips.net/video/3rCl3MMY9Lg/видео.html Jump to 4:11 for the GP Editor tip.
What was the BG pic for the Thumnail???
I generated it using VidIQ
My I3 has it but still had to force upgrade.
Interesting, why did you have to force? Maybe TPM?
@@theit-unicorn1873 No bypass the CPU check but works fine.
Does Microsoft think they can outsmart everyone that runs Windows, but I don't care anyway I have moved to Linux after 40 years of using Windows, I am now 78, so MS can do one!
Love it, sir. Good for you!
They probably did it so there would be less reasons to remain on Win 11 if POPCNT is enforced before Win 12.
Hmmm, interesting take on it.
Since this is a feature update can't you ignore it for 2 years?
If you don't want 24H2 and all of it's glory!
Your voice is similar to Chris Titus Tech.
I'll take that as a compliment. :-)
Right
The i7-2600k from 2011 seems to have SSE4.2 so what processors are we talking about here?
Anything older than the first core i- series (core 2 duo/quad, pentium D etc)
In memorium
( 🎶It's been a long day...)
Pentium 4
Sempron 3000+
(🎶Without you my friend...)
Celeron D 331
Athlon 64 x2 5600+
Core 2 duo E6750
And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again 🎶🎶😞
@@bramvandenbroeck5060 It's crazy that people would try to run Windows 11 on computers pre-2010 lol.
My i7-2630qm should be good to go then
Considering there is code that can perform population count (popcnt) on older processors that do not have the popcnt instruction set; apparently is only for AI raises concerns why MS would force this onto all users of their own property, their personal computers.
I think that is a much more relevant concern than the incompatibility of processors older than approx 14 years (before Intel Nehalem and AMD Phenom II era). How much AI processing is windows going to perform to such an extent the inefficiency of subsitute code to perform the operation would be a hinderance to the user? Is the sort of AI operations to the benefit of the user or imposing on the privacy of the user?
@RAM_845 best thing is, this will push so many people away from windows and their software, the devs will start supporting linux more. as they should
they should stop &$%*()# with hardware requirements
I have to agree with you! Especially in the middle of an OS, wait for the next one!
This new feature is far older than the limitations Win11 has on the existing CPU's as your CPU needs to be approx 15 years old to not support it. Just imagine how well a 15 year old PC will run with Win11 24H2 if it hasn't been sent to the jumk pile long ago. And if it still running then likely with a small Linux OS.
It all about the money. Remember Windows 10 was the last OS and now Windows 11 and 12
Yup, I definitely remember the Windows 10 forever claim. Didn't age well, lol.
Way to go there, Microsoft with more arbitrary system requirements.
I switch off from windows long time ago and didn't go to Mac unless I want to sell a arm and a leg.
NIce! What distro are you running?
@@theit-unicorn1873 OpenSUSE Leap for now until pop os comic is in beta and give that a shot, it is very stable nothing to break but is not a starter OS like Mint but people who know there around Linux abit then is a good one as long they don't mind flatpak or appimg for updated software.
@@theit-unicorn1873 Opensuse leap as my distro I'm using, I think I reply but youtube deleted it lol
On my old PC I got SSE4.2 but I don't have TPM. Sooo, I still won't be able to run it, right?
Either way I'm tempted to go back to Linux.
If you want to upgrade backup your stuff and start from scratch. Use rufus to build your win11 installer. It has option to disable the the TPM hardware check. TPM 2 is really not needed, neither is secure boot. Win11 runs just fine without
@@georgecole2285 Thanks, George!
I know that I can work my way around it, I was just curious if I could upgrade from Windows 10 without doing anything special and still have a legit copy.
But yeah, that works too if I absolutely want to go to Windows 11.
This has been in almost every CPU architectures past 2000s. If your CPU does not have POPCNT, first off, wtf are you buying cause that's gotta be an ancient relic now, and two; almost every CPUs has this already built in.
What is the problem exactly?
has anyone anywhere got a simple answer to WHY? from Microsoft... the requirements for Win11 are nonsensical at best ...
I don't think there's a definitive "why" as of now. It does seem to be at a hardware level for this release though. There's some interesting talk about it out there, but I think at this point, folks are still digging.
Techs have been complaining (legitimately) about windows since day one. Micro scam
I kept Win 10 on my laptop and a new desktop for work came with Win 11. I hate Win 11 and I hate Windows updates, Edge updates that seem to be every 5 days. I wipes out all my sign on information for work not to mention jacks with my VPN.
I recently bought a used pc with a ryzen5 2400g with windows installed. It's running great so far and I'm fine with it, I don't want to install 10 or 7 again. Especially since Microsoft is demanding we pay even more money to use it after next year. I'll just make a 2nd linux machine, but in spite of my better judgement, i'd like to leave windows 11 on it.
lol popcnt starts from Pentuim 4 d650 and up
Certainly been around a while.
I''ve switched most of my computers in the house to Linux already. I have this laptop and a mini desktop that I only use to access my NAS for old TV shows and movies. So it will be an easy switch for those. Microsoft can kiss it for all I am concerned. Hopefully they will eventually start losing market share and realize the user will decide what they will put up with!
Linux is SLOWLY gaining market share, but it's hard to take down the 800 pound gorilla.
I'm moving to Linux... I'm all done with Microsoft's manipulation BS taking control of my computer away from me...
when you hardware is to old it means you are also exposed to hardware vulnerabilities those cant be patched below 11th gen intel or AMD equivalent i would not use today even with that architecture you are not 100% safe as this has also some like TAA ,sbdr,ssdp, psdp,sbpv and other that aren't undiscovered
Problem is, there are folks out there that can't afford an upgrade, especially in 2024.
My older gaming laptop is "not able" to run Windows 11. Microsoft really goes full clown in just few years.
I also heard that Win 12, you will need a ARM snap Dragon CPU to be able to use all the features. You need a new computer every 3 years now.
Time for Linux
@@STONE69_ Snapdragon CPU? Hard pass
@@mariuszmoraw3571 well then you will be missing out on full AI features. Do you care? I'm not into AI, so I couldn't give 2 sheits. But gamers will be missing out on new games that will require it. So you will be shamed by others that have it.
@@STONE69_ Yeah, that's not how it works...
My OBSOLETE extremely old museum piece CPU Intel Core i5 2400 aka Sandy Bridge has SSE 4.2. That was introduced in 2011. Thus, I wonder why is anyone making such a big fuss over this Microsoft requirement in order to run Win 11 (for new PCs). I am running this old Sandy Bridge i5 CPU in Win 7 and the setup up is rock stable. No fancifulness.
My i5-3450 from 13 years ago doesn't support Win11 so some cpu's are still around that are not valid for this update.
I have a hp elitedesk 800 g2 mini the only thing that don't support windows 11 is the CPU that's an intel i5 6500 chip clean install windows 11 and it runs brilliant go to the intel site after all the updates are done and it give me a video driver for windows 11 I find that strange as its CPU based lol
That is strange 🤔
@@theit-unicorn1873 I know if you have a unit test or out
When will this OS version be released?
Well, thats what they'd said about when Windows 11 came out. Eventually there always be a way to bypass this aswell
CPUID is the company. CPU-Z is the software. You don't say, Windows, AKA Microsoft, y'know?
Micro$oft simultaneously serving the NSA and the HW manus. One can't serve two masters at the same time.
They seem to be "juggling" both, not sure how well though..
Windows 11 requires tpm2 anyway so, if you have an older cpu, you’re not running 11 anyway.
I've moved to Linux even on my Windows
11 laptop.
1st gen i5 and i7 have sse4.2
Literally, every i3 cpu has that instruction set.
And if you don't have an i3, you should get one cause it is dirt cheap
Microsoft is pulling the rug out from under us, and yes, it is fair game. They have warned us now for a while that this was coming. did we thing that they were joking. How am I handling this? My older hardware is already on Linux Mint.
When running Mint, do you have times where you NEED Windows? Thanks for sharing.
What my 6700k z270, o 23
The 6700K has SSE 4.2 which means you can run Windows 11 24H2.
Personally, i dont really care, I have Ryzen 7 5700G, but I do know a lot of people who dont have a new cpu that wont be able to run win11. This will force a lot people to upgrade to a whole new computer. It will be interesting to see how the market is going to respond. Prices are either going to go through the roof, or they will drop like stone. Either way, it is going to piss off a lot people.
LOL, 90% of the CPU's that were not supported by Windows 11 from day 1 - 23H2 and needed to use the bypass to be able to install Windows 11 do support SSE 4.2 and SSE4A, so 90% of the people that bypassed the stupid requirements for Windows 11 will still be able to bypass and install 24H2. Although I'm not sure why they would want to as there is a ton of crap in 24H2 that makes it way worse than 23H2. I have systems from 2010, 2012, 2015, 2016, 2019 and they all support SSE 4.2 and SSE4A and only the 2019 system actually supports Windows 11 without needing the bypass. Others are running Windows 11 perfectly via the bypass.
what does this mean when you go shopping for a new computer
ok here is the crazy part . I run software that needs (Win) and I will be running in the near future mac pro with parrales 19 . Can Linux support win app ?
Get yourself an ARM computer with a snap dragon CPU if you want to use all features in 24h2. It will cost big money though.
Ignore the paid propellerhead goons trying to get you running Linux spyware. This requirement does not apply to any current computer.
There's nothing actually new. Most CPUS since 2006 included the instruction set.
I think Microsoft just wants to sell new computers ...so your old unit don't pass ? here let us sell you a brand new one guaranteed to pass inspection ...!
You're not the first person to comment that. It also crossed my mind.
@@theit-unicorn1873 it's why I have decided to go with Linux ...I'm currently looking for a way to ease into a new distro called Zorin17
Microsoft is not a bully. Microsoft is losing it. They are acting like Mac. Basically , what they are trying to say is "these are our new terms and conditions, take it or leave it. Well, my opinion, screw Microsoft.
I don't think you're alone with that opinion!
Time to switch to mint permanently
Will you NEED Windows for anything, you think?
My 10100f has it i am good.
Nice!
Lol if your cpu is over 10 years old doubt it will run windows 11 anyway .
What a joke i wrote many posts bashing linux and windows equally but at the end of the day the choice is yours . Personally ill stick with windows due to the issues I have with linux even with new hardware.
Telling everyone to go to linux makes perfect sense if they don't mind rebuilding and coding the os and they have apps that they know are supported for the average user its not really feasible every os has its issues including linux .
Not necessarily, but I get your point 😎
@@theit-unicorn1873I don't know personally for me I tried to game and it was painful on Linux unfortunately even for simple games my hardware was either too new or old ... I had to jump through so many hoops . I ended up running a windows vm under Linux but doesn't that defeat the purpose ?
I'm saying at the end of the day it's simpler for me to run windows for my needs .
@dreaper5813 yes and AMD user I had issues with both sometimes my games would break because they were not coded for Linux I would have to go and rebuild my Kernal or use specific ones so it's more complicated and not worth it to me. I play all games and not just simple ones I don't want to limit my pc to specific ones although the new ones are trash. You can't always use just free drivers and it's a pain to try to get non free working correctly. It's not user friendly and as cut and dry as just using windows for gaming and Linux on a separate partition for other uses.
Microsoft doesn't care about users at all. Microsoft has its own plans. I'm afraid this is not a business agenda.