The moment I heard you utter the word "patina" in conjunction with this truck's appearance I stopped watching. Slathering a vehicle with "shine juice" (linseed oil/shellac mixture) is about the most idiotic solution for "fixing" a vehicle's appearance I have ever heard of in my life. The end result looks like something someone would do if he was too lazy or too stupid to repaint a vehicle so the job is done right.
Your attitude sucks. If you don’t appreciate the well seasoned appearance of a vehicle that has lived a long and hard life but is still kicking, that’s completely fine. But if you’re telling me that I’m a lazy idiot for not fully restoring my cracked, twisted, dented, beaten, falling to pieces work truck right this second… yeah, you’re confused and misinformed, pal. In this VERY video, I explained that I am still searching for a front clip and doors for the truck, which implies… it might get painted?! 😮🤯 but in the short term, I just made the truck look far more respectable and even kinda cool with 10-15 minutes of my time and $0. It’s not even that mega glossy clear coated rust look. It’s actually pretty subtle, but it really cut down the POS factor of the truck noticeably. So… who was the idiot again?
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think it's the right move. The second you paint it, that's when you start to worry about every dent, scratch, and ding. (or at least most people would?) This is a truck that's meant to be used. It's unique. That's it's appeal and why I think so many of us it, and the patina look overall.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Have 1987 F 350, 460/4spd w/granny/4:10's and utility body. I give it a coat of Rustoleum white every 8 or 10yrs. To me? Truck = WORK! I think your ramp truck is the BOMB!
I watched your video on the "japanese fake foxbody" and now I've watched a half dozen other videos and decided to subscribe. I'm a Ford guy and want nothing to do with any Mopar products, but I'll gladly continue watching you wrench on random junk!
The beauty of this truck is not the looks, it's what it can do, and the fact that you can beat on it, scratch it, or whatever and not worry about it. But, I really like the idea of making it look like a 70s truck, complete with a "bird bath" hood and a 77-78 grille.
I used to do a lot of that. All of my early videos are full of it. I’ve toned it down a lot to get more to the point, but I do like to set a scene now and again.
I can’t believe that they still make Penetrol. It’s been around forever. My dad used it on his boat and it really goes a long way in preserving what it is applied to.
You should change your 10,000 GVW to 9,999.9 GVW. If I purchase a 10,000 GVW trailer in CACAfornia it becomes a nightmare of restrictions on where I can park the trailer.
In Washington, trucks licensed for 10,001 GVW and up have to stop at weigh stations. 10,000 and down do not. I have looked at the list of regulated vehicle weights, and none of the ones I planned to be in were lower than that. Don’t remember what California was - but I hope not to be there.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I don't know if it is a State law or county law, but if I get anything at 10K or above I can't park it on residential property even though I live in an agricultural zone. That includes trailers.
I knew someone who sawzalled a spare tire winch from under old truck bed and welded on flatbed..made adapter and used 18v impact to pick up and lower spare..love the video
My trailer has two '97-up Ford F-Series spare tire winches under the deck that I got at the wrecking yard. I used a 3/4" black pipe for an extension to reach them and drilled a 1" hole in the side of the trailer frame to guide/support the extra length. In my case the tires are side-by-side so I have to access one from one side and one from the other. I made a speed handle for mine (like a trailer tongue jack) but you could just weld a cheap 1/2" drive socket on the end. Like the first poster said, might work for you since it's a cable winch you could use it to put your spare in the factory location, lower it down and pull it out to the side to unhook the spare. To put it back in you just hook the cable/plate through the center and crank it back up. It pretty much aligns itself. If you can maneuver around the driveline it might have room further forward??? If that won't work.....I have a flatbed with the spare on an extension from the cab guard, over the cab. Not IDEAL from a looks or accessibility standpoint but for me ot was the ONLY place to put it because it's a large tire. The other option is on the backside of your cab guard behind the driver's head. If mounted as high as possible I don't think it would get in your way. If it does, you could just remove it.
How dare you try to improve and protect your own vehicle! Seriously though keep doing what you're doing. I watched the Dodge Challenger "Foxbody" video and have been watching your videos since lol
Hey, Work in Progress! Just know there is never any timeline, and I greatly enjoy any vids on this truck. It's super cool, and even little vids like this are supper cool.
Ohhhh, I love the RAMp truck! Definitely lifer worthy! Excited for the NV/Dana 80 swap! Fast forward…..mmmm, 5 years, I’ll eat both (left AND right) my shoes if this truck isn’t perfected.
@@mutantryeff on my car I did it first may I think, although it doesn’t look like it did the day I did it, it still looks good. For me mainly it helps seal up seams and rust spots from spreading too fast. Also a bottle will last you years ! Just do another coat in the spring it will be good for summer! 👍cheers!
It goes super fast. I did the second coat on the truck in five minutes. It’s been two weeks since I did it and it still looks the same. The Belair is also holding up great, and it has rained here several times since I did both. It will be interesting to see how it holds up - but again, future recoats don’t worry me. It goes really quickly.
I don't wanna be too humble. I am a true American hero for saving the mean green crapple machine. The crab apple green 77 that narrowly escaped death and resurrection as a ramp truck. Lol. That may have been cool too... but i needed it more. Lol.
I had the ridiculous idea to rebuild this crappy “ramp truck” I had just made a deal for to make the trip down there with the Demon. So I did that, and somehow got the bed built, tires, suspension and steering fixed, various other small fixes and upgrades done, and hit the road in about three weeks. It made the 6,000 mile trip with the demon on the back, flying over mountain passes at 80+ and averaging 13.5 MPG. Not bad!
@@DeadDodgeGarage Looks like you One Upped VGG with THAT mission! I have noticed you're a bit of a glutton for automotive punishment, much like he is...
I love it my brother had a first gen with a long flat bed growing up looked just like yours. We both miss that 2wd living in colorado was a great time with many great moments enjoying that ram
I had to pull my NV4500 out of my 93 on Friday. Started at 9am and it was out at 1pm. Dropped it off to get rebuilt. Lots of metal out of bearing in the bottom of the transmission.
My son's a diesel mechanic, he told me there's a new, UPGRADED transmission to directly replace a Getrag 360 or NV4500. It's called a 5000. If my Getrag in my '91.5 W-250 Cummins ever goes bad I'm getting one.
You should slop the whole deck with used motor oil, it soaks into the wood and makes it waterproof and gives it a nice look. I hit the flatbed on my truck at least once a year. Plus it gets rid of oil used oil 👍
I've gotta say, I've always liked this truck!👍 To coin a phrase, she's not the prettiest girl at the dance, but she sure can dance!! Just remember, it's a truck. It's supposed to work. It doesn't have be a showpiece. It has to be functional. I've got a 96 3500 Cummins dually that I've been making better. Like yourself, this will probably be my forever truck. It looks presentable & it's definitely cool looking, but it's still a truck! All it has to do is work reliably. Best of luck with yours!!👍🙏🙏
I apologize profusely. Haha. When my daughter was born, I was just finishing piecing together a dually Cummins five speed 2wd truck. They frown on putting baby carriers on those sideways jump seats… so I drove that truck like twice, sold it and got a second gen. How I wish I had that one now. It had 318k miles, but it was GORGEOUS.
Well Josh beat you to it… I had announced in a couple lives that I was going to sell it and he had to have it. Will be putting a nicely built 360 in it at some point in the future.
You will 😉. Jamie's gonna put a warmed over engine in it and have dual exhaust with short glasspacks before it comes to live in ND. IM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT VERY MUCH!
I've had project vehicles like this and the scary thing is no matter how much you get done and check off the list it always seems to grow longer then when you started, the list is always growing. The truck is looking good though! Your wiring (harness?) scares me, to many wires to many different colors and open ends.
Ramp truck is ready for another Charger. 55 years ago tomorrow my dad picked up his new 1970 Dodge Charger from a Chrysler dealership in Hamtramck, Michigan.
Jamie, you could use some of that C-channel steel you've got to make a vertical bracket to bolt the spare wheel at the front, side of the bed - wheel parallel to the bedside. The centerline of the vertical piece would be about where the "G" is on the drivers side (I'd put it on the pass side tho). Then two braces, one on the bedside and 1 to the headache rack to triangulate it. The wheel could be rolled up the ramp vs lifting it if needed. No length of the bed lost and only minimal loss of width. Place hook points on the bracket(s) for strapping if needed. When looking for a Dana 80, some of the later 2nd gen's with 80's had factory disc brakes - that would be a nice upgrade if one could be found.
Now *that* is a smart solution! My only problem with it is that I wouldn’t be able to reach under the car to attach the front right strap. Maybe I could make it swing out… yes, I’m aware the very late second gen dually 80s could have disk brakes. People want $1000 for those axles. Drum brake units can be had for $400 or so. I don’t need four wheel disk that bad… but it would be nice.
Love your stuff. Just a suggestion for the spare carrier, reverse the tire putting the low side inboard near the frame and the weight of the tire and the frame will hold it in. You will only need a strap to keep it from bouncing. Granted it will be a little hard to retrieve the tire but it will be much more secured .
Interesting idea. I oriented it that way because it is wedged slightly into the flat bed between two stringers, helping to tuck it in a couple extra inches. I came up with a similar but different idea yesterday though - I’m going to angle those outside supports inward, such that they grab the tire when it is in position and it has to be lifted to come out.
I want it to be black. And I had considered mounting a winch inside the bumper like I did on my red ‘85. It was super useful. But I think I may do a hitch mount instead, because I would also like to mount a mini bike up there for race day.
My grand vision was always to be able to move two cars, but I think that’s optimistic. I have found many useful jobs that it can do well in addition to hauling cars. I do like being contained on the one vehicle and not having to park a trailer, but it’s still long and parking is a challenge. My 2003 Ram with a trailer is definitely nicer to drive, and easier to load the car - but I have more fun with the ramp truck.
Oh trust me, it’s on the list. But both fenders and inner fenders are also cracked and disintegrating from chassis flex and bouncing around. All of that will go sooner or later.
If you didn’t use pressure treated wood. Mix equal amounts of diesel or kerosene and motor oil ( new or used, heavier grade the better) put in sprayer or not and either spray on or rub on to your wood truck bed. Best to do two coats, let the first coat soak in well. Also works better on rough cut lumber as it won’t be quite as slippery when it gets wet. I haven’t used it on non planed wood so I can only assume that it may be slippery. Anyways that’s what farmers use to do to fence post or when building ole barns. Some claimed that it last 25 years plus. I imagine the species of wood might have something to do with it also. Heck maybe try the penatrol on it, if you have that much of it. Just thinking outside of that damn box.
maybe angle iron border on the back of your flatbed wood? simple, easy, cheap, and should last forever. all the best - love ur channel, can’t afford a membership- but love it - and u cd have finished your ‘many are like it’ with the whole full metal jacket scene - keep up the good work! c
I could have. Haha. Funny enough, angle iron was my first idea. Then I tried a section of pipe, and learned that what I need is less height there, not more. So I’ve been ignoring it since ripping the pipe off.
I have planned all along to build a wheel rack for spare race wheels and tires, and I could certainly put the truck spare up there as well. But I am worried about overall height. Going through drive throughs on my road trip was awesome.
@Jamie, should you decide to move the tire. Think about extending out over the roof and if needed arms off the front to plate steel to the front bumper.
Gotcha man i've installed enough tool boxes to know that you have drill drain holes in all of them and whenever possible drill them holes in each corner
I am going to put the spare 4500 from my second gen in my first next summer. If you need anything for your transmission Long Range Gear north of Spokane are stand up guys. They gave me a fifth fix kit to limp along with while they built the trans I’m running now.
I don’t quite understand what/where you mean. If you are thinking hanging on the side of the bed like on some trailers, the bed is already 8’ wide. I can’t have that kind of overhang.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Hanging it high on the back of the vertical part of bed at the front where it above the hood of most cars. You might need to have some additional support to strengthen the vertical part of the bed by putting a triangle down to the side. As an alternative, have you ever seen an old race car truck from the 70s that stored tires up high across the front of the flat bed?
We all know it`s never gonna be perfect. But good enough for the girls I go out with (we know that line, eh?). But with that bucket list this is gonna keep the content waltz rolling. The drivetrain rebuild sounds big. And it´s never that easy because "while I´m there…" and "shit, haven´t seen that before". Til next time… Kind Regards
This is hilarious. I saw a previous video where you used the penetrol. In that, you pointed to this truck to show how well it turned out. So when you dropped this video, I saw the truck and my first thought was that the penetrol was apparently garbage because here we are just a few weeks later and that looks no different. Nope, you just recorded things out of order, as you probably should, and parts of this video were recorded before that other video. So, maybe it's not that funny but I had a good laugh.
Exactly. Haha. I *usually* try to keep things consecutive, but I wasn’t done with what I had hoped to get done on the truck so I ran the Belair video first. I did think about that issue, and I’m glad somebody caught it.
It can’t go right in front of the car, as that moves the car too far back, which extends the rear overhang, affects the weight distribution, and makes my header clearance problem worse. That’s where I was keeping it before. I have thought about mounting it on a roof basket type setup, and someone here suggested mounting it on a bracket between the bed and the headache rack, parallel with the side of the bed. I do like that idea and am considering it. Thank you!
The spare tire situation is ... unfortunate. I think it might be worth the effort to store the ramps under the decking on the sides, and lower the space the spare was sitting at between the rails. And/Or do a tilt mount. On a positive note, the grill guard looks pretty damn good 👍
That’s always been my plan for the ramps. It would be much easier to put them under the center, but ultimately I was planning to enclose the bed sides, which would create compartments there as well. So I should probably just do that.
I think that red Chevy in the background was clouding your sentiment of the glorious Dodge ramp truck... picking up Camaros in trailer parks, not seeing it. Now I'm not saying it's parked too close to the Chevy with it's (Edit- maybe I was a bit rash)... well there it is.
I considered the first, and someone else suggested the second, which I do like. The problem would be access to the front strap for the car on that side.
I’ve discussed plans to put a wheel rack up there in past videos but didn’t mention it in this one. The idea would be to have spare mounted slicks / radials, but obviously the truck spare could fit too. We’ll get there.
Can’t stand the tire up like that. Pushes the car too far back and the headers will be on the deck. That small box is actually under the front of the car when it is in position.
It has been a consideration. I’m not looking forward to the literal headache I will get everything I am reminded it is there the hard way. But it will solve some problems.
Can you paint over Penetrol, or is it one of those things that makes it seem like your trying to paint a teflon surface? I used Zep floor shine on my Valiant, it takes something like 5 to 10 coats to make it work and it only lasts about a year and then you have to do the 5 to 10 coat process over again. If you want to paint the car you use floor stripper on it and it doesn't leave a residue. Which I may due someday. The Penetrol does leave a nice patina finish on your ramp truck. Good job!
Not only can it apparently be painted over, but they actually suggest that as a usage for it on the can. It contains a very small amount of boiled linseed oil, among other exciting chemicals, so I do have to wonder how well that works.
Never heard of Penetrol before, but have you ever thought about using Nyalic? I used it quite extensively at Caterpillar and at Disney. Does the same thing but it’s absolutely permanent.
Far from finished or not, I'm STILL shocked at the driveability and reliability of this thing - considering I initially thought it was the sketchiest heap you ever attempted to drive home!
Good of you to point out....Chrysler Electrics...the American version of Lucas Electric... (Lucas 3 way switch....DIM/FLICKER/OFF!)...fellow that used to fool with Brit Bikes here? Had a jar of GENUINE LUCAS WIRING HARNESS SMOKE on his shelf....LOLOLOL!
That’s what I did at first, but it moves the car rearward 8-10 inches, and I’m already hanging off the back. I need the weight as far forward as possible for stability.
@@DeadDodgeGarage nice,,, that way you can put another toolbox down there where you have that spare and incidentally it looks like it might be sticking out some so you might want to reconsider.. I'm sure you have many ideas but the bed frame idea was top notch I like the idea...
I am curious how long that lube will stay shiny. There are products made to make dull headlights shiny, and they are basically a thin oil. All the reviews say the shine lasts 12 hours to two or three days and then it is worse than before when it dries to a haze. I have the same surface rust problem on my stuff parked outside but I was afraid any protectant that had either oil or silicone would just make it impossible for the krylon spay paint to stick and not fisheye when the goo fades away. I would have gone with some krylon on the hood on your truck. I did it once with three different colors and white lasted the longest by far. Or silver. Red only lasted a few months.
I don’t want to do that. I’ve done krylon touch up in the past with good results (absolutely nailed it on my ‘73 Challenger) but that’s not what I’m after.
Do they salt the roads where you live Jamie? They do where I do. It sux. I have a 2013 gmc sierra Denali 2500 duramax that I bought new. But the salt where I live is trying to kill it. I just POR 15’d the entire underside. I will report back on how that goes.
Yeah, what he said. It’s pretty much a non issue - and that’s why all of these classics hang around. The rust we do get is from the excessive rain and is found where moisture ends up sitting. Much easier to deal with than the salty kind.
Down here in Oregon I've NEVER seen then salt a road. In central and western Orygun the cinder the roads.....as well as the passes over the Cascades. I made ONE trip to Montana and I had rust starting EVERYWHERE there wasn't painted metal on my '98 Cummins Ram.
The moment I heard you utter the word "patina" in conjunction with this truck's appearance I stopped watching. Slathering a vehicle with "shine juice" (linseed oil/shellac mixture) is about the most idiotic solution for "fixing" a vehicle's appearance I have ever heard of in my life. The end result looks like something someone would do if he was too lazy or too stupid to repaint a vehicle so the job is done right.
Your attitude sucks. If you don’t appreciate the well seasoned appearance of a vehicle that has lived a long and hard life but is still kicking, that’s completely fine. But if you’re telling me that I’m a lazy idiot for not fully restoring my cracked, twisted, dented, beaten, falling to pieces work truck right this second… yeah, you’re confused and misinformed, pal. In this VERY video, I explained that I am still searching for a front clip and doors for the truck, which implies… it might get painted?! 😮🤯 but in the short term, I just made the truck look far more respectable and even kinda cool with 10-15 minutes of my time and $0. It’s not even that mega glossy clear coated rust look. It’s actually pretty subtle, but it really cut down the POS factor of the truck noticeably. So… who was the idiot again?
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think it's the right move. The second you paint it, that's when you start to worry about every dent, scratch, and ding. (or at least most people would?) This is a truck that's meant to be used. It's unique. That's it's appeal and why I think so many of us it, and the patina look overall.
@@AbcDef-iq4no Get lost TROLL
🖕🫵ABC dude.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Have 1987 F 350, 460/4spd w/granny/4:10's and utility body. I give it a coat of Rustoleum white every 8 or 10yrs. To me? Truck = WORK! I think your ramp truck is the BOMB!
I like the look of the old Texas AM radio towers used to hold the rear view mirrors. 9:19
I’m not big on those myself. Haha. I’m planning to pick up a set of west coast mirrors.
I watched your video on the "japanese fake foxbody" and now I've watched a half dozen other videos and decided to subscribe.
I'm a Ford guy and want nothing to do with any Mopar products, but I'll gladly continue watching you wrench on random junk!
Thank you very much! It is sincerely appreciated.
The beauty of this truck is not the looks, it's what it can do, and the fact that you can beat on it, scratch it, or whatever and not worry about it. But, I really like the idea of making it look like a 70s truck, complete with a "bird bath" hood and a 77-78 grille.
Bingo! That would be the perfect look.
I like those random neighborhood shots you sometimes include. Artful.
I used to do a lot of that. All of my early videos are full of it. I’ve toned it down a lot to get more to the point, but I do like to set a scene now and again.
I can definitely see a gun rack and a double barrel 4 10 in the rear window 🤘🏻👍🏻✌🏻🎶🏁
Oh yeah, someone sent me a gun rack but I haven’t installed that yet. Haha.
I can’t believe that they still make Penetrol. It’s been around forever. My dad used it on his boat and it really goes a long way in preserving what it is applied to.
PCM bypass was one of the best things I did to my pickup. So nice to have the grid heaters on a monetary switch
The ramp truck is a thing of Beauty & my favorite part of it is the screaming goat on the dash. I love that little guy!
Prudence, the safety goat! A crowd favorite for sure.
Definitely adds depth! I did the same to my faded red commander with same results!
Outstanding! I’m very impressed with the way it deepens the color.
You should change your 10,000 GVW to 9,999.9 GVW. If I purchase a 10,000 GVW trailer in CACAfornia it becomes a nightmare of restrictions on where I can park the trailer.
In Washington, trucks licensed for 10,001 GVW and up have to stop at weigh stations. 10,000 and down do not. I have looked at the list of regulated vehicle weights, and none of the ones I planned to be in were lower than that. Don’t remember what California was - but I hope not to be there.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I don't know if it is a State law or county law, but if I get anything at 10K or above I can't park it on residential property even though I live in an agricultural zone. That includes trailers.
Cool upgrades to the ramp truck! Looking great!👍
Bedframes are the duct tape of the metal world. And I love it
I knew someone who sawzalled a spare tire winch from under old truck bed and welded on flatbed..made adapter and used 18v impact to pick up and lower spare..love the video
Brilliant!
My trailer has two '97-up Ford F-Series spare tire winches under the deck that I got at the wrecking yard.
I used a 3/4" black pipe for an extension to reach them and drilled a 1" hole in the side of the trailer frame to guide/support the extra length. In my case the tires are side-by-side so I have to access one from one side and one from the other.
I made a speed handle for mine (like a trailer tongue jack) but you could just weld a cheap 1/2" drive socket on the end.
Like the first poster said, might work for you since it's a cable winch you could use it to put your spare in the factory location, lower it down and pull it out to the side to unhook the spare.
To put it back in you just hook the cable/plate through the center and crank it back up. It pretty much aligns itself.
If you can maneuver around the driveline it might have room further forward???
If that won't work.....I have a flatbed with the spare on an extension from the cab guard, over the cab.
Not IDEAL from a looks or accessibility standpoint but for me ot was the ONLY place to put it because it's a large tire.
The other option is on the backside of your cab guard behind the driver's head.
If mounted as high as possible I don't think it would get in your way. If it does, you could just remove it.
How dare you try to improve and protect your own vehicle! Seriously though keep doing what you're doing. I watched the Dodge Challenger "Foxbody" video and have been watching your videos since lol
Thanks! That one was remarkably popular. Haha.
I'm excited to see more upgrades on the ramp truck!
Yay ramp truck!!! The work is never done.
The guy that does all the things, great video truck looks good.
Hey, Work in Progress! Just know there is never any timeline, and I greatly enjoy any vids on this truck. It's super cool, and even little vids like this are supper cool.
Great video and awesome work on the ramp truck. I am excited to see the 3 pedal solution in the near future.
I like your truck i think it will ne a good hauler for a very long time
And another thing to remember.
Anything free, is worth saving up for :-)
Good job sir, it is coming along.
Ohhhh, I love the RAMp truck! Definitely lifer worthy! Excited for the NV/Dana 80 swap!
Fast forward…..mmmm, 5 years, I’ll eat both (left AND right) my shoes if this truck isn’t perfected.
" rolling from one trailer park to the next trailer park to pick up like a broken down Camaro " Bwahhhhaaaaaa🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Proud of that. Haha.
These are my favourite type of video. Doing what you need to do to get by. Thanks.
I'd like to get an update on how the penatrol survives over time.
@@mutantryeff on my car I did it first may I think, although it doesn’t look like it did the day I did it, it still looks good. For me mainly it helps seal up seams and rust spots from spreading too fast. Also a bottle will last you years ! Just do another coat in the spring it will be good for summer! 👍cheers!
@@Coronetguy Thanks. I just dread the thought of doing an entire 93 D350
@@mutantryeff haha, ya , that’s some real estate to cover. But it’s not like paste waxing where you have to buff it. Just wet it and forget it! 👍
It goes super fast. I did the second coat on the truck in five minutes. It’s been two weeks since I did it and it still looks the same. The Belair is also holding up great, and it has rained here several times since I did both. It will be interesting to see how it holds up - but again, future recoats don’t worry me. It goes really quickly.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I just ordered a quart from Amazon. Now if I can just convince my 25 year old to do the work.
I have to say I quite like this rig. It's got a charm of its own. Can't wait to see the mechanical upgrades!
She be a good looking rig.
I don't wanna be too humble. I am a true American hero for saving the mean green crapple machine. The crab apple green 77 that narrowly escaped death and resurrection as a ramp truck. Lol. That may have been cool too... but i needed it more. Lol.
😅 good call there.
Found a 1/2 ton 4x4 same year and color a few days ago on a backroad while trucking. May need to inquire and have almost twins
I don't remember the truck but the race against Uncle Tony rings a bell! That's why I subscribed...
I had the ridiculous idea to rebuild this crappy “ramp truck” I had just made a deal for to make the trip down there with the Demon. So I did that, and somehow got the bed built, tires, suspension and steering fixed, various other small fixes and upgrades done, and hit the road in about three weeks. It made the 6,000 mile trip with the demon on the back, flying over mountain passes at 80+ and averaging 13.5 MPG. Not bad!
@@DeadDodgeGarage Looks like you One Upped VGG with THAT mission! I have noticed you're a bit of a glutton for automotive punishment, much like he is...
I love it my brother had a first gen with a long flat bed growing up looked just like yours. We both miss that 2wd living in colorado was a great time with many great moments enjoying that ram
I will happily challenge you to a challenge of patience and i have already lost 😂
Nice 😅
I want a truck like yours. It'd awesome
Awesome. Thanks for the video.
It's impressive to me all the mods you've done and plan to do on this truck. It's a shit ton of work. Good job
Thank you Jamie, Greetings from Colorado
I had to pull my NV4500 out of my 93 on Friday. Started at 9am and it was out at 1pm. Dropped it off to get rebuilt. Lots of metal out of bearing in the bottom of the transmission.
That’s what I’m putting in this one. Supposedly it was a good working transmission, but I kinda already know a rebuild is in my future.
Did it come with the NV4500?
There's been a legend around forever that some late '93s got them.
@@jeffhutchins7048 No. I swapped it about 20 years ago
My son's a diesel mechanic, he told me there's a new, UPGRADED transmission to directly replace a Getrag 360 or NV4500.
It's called a 5000.
If my Getrag in my '91.5 W-250 Cummins ever goes bad I'm getting one.
You should slop the whole deck with used motor oil, it soaks into the wood and makes it waterproof and gives it a nice look. I hit the flatbed on my truck at least once a year. Plus it gets rid of oil used oil 👍
That’s interesting. I do have plenty of used oil. Haha.
It works, in my experience even better with 25% diesel in it.
It’s a nice video, sometimes just cleaning barn dust and cleaning out these old cars is a great video to watch.
I've gotta say, I've always liked this truck!👍 To coin a phrase, she's not the prettiest girl at the dance, but she sure can dance!! Just remember, it's a truck. It's supposed to work. It doesn't have be a showpiece. It has to be functional. I've got a 96 3500 Cummins dually that I've been making better. Like yourself, this will probably be my forever truck. It looks presentable & it's definitely cool looking, but it's still a truck! All it has to do is work reliably. Best of luck with yours!!👍🙏🙏
Oh absolutely. At the end of the day, I don’t want it to be *nice* but I also don’t want it to be embarrassingly ugly. It’s a truck.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Yessir!!
I really enjoyed this. Thank you, Jamie.
Thanks for making me miss my '93 CTD again. It was a Club cab but my son out grew that back seat situation.
Otherwise, I'd still have it!
I apologize profusely. Haha. When my daughter was born, I was just finishing piecing together a dually Cummins five speed 2wd truck. They frown on putting baby carriers on those sideways jump seats… so I drove that truck like twice, sold it and got a second gen. How I wish I had that one now. It had 318k miles, but it was GORGEOUS.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Same here, I traded mine in on one of the first third gens. Which I've still got.
Dang it man I wanted the green dodge.
Well Josh beat you to it… I had announced in a couple lives that I was going to sell it and he had to have it. Will be putting a nicely built 360 in it at some point in the future.
@DeadDodgeGarage man that's wonderful. I hope to see more of it later
You will 😉. Jamie's gonna put a warmed over engine in it and have dual exhaust with short glasspacks before it comes to live in ND. IM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT VERY MUCH!
I like your closer to final design spare tire carrier- it's all a process.
Yep… my fabrication involves a lot of eye balling. Haha.
I've had project vehicles like this and the scary thing is no matter how much you get done and check off the list it always seems to grow longer then when you started, the list is always growing. The truck is looking good though! Your wiring (harness?) scares me, to many wires to many different colors and open ends.
Oh… it’s terrifying. Not sure how it hasn’t been on fire yet. I am definitely looking forward to fixing all of that.
That is a very cool truck, Manual shift will help a lot. Talk to you later this evening.
Ramp truck is ready for another Charger. 55 years ago tomorrow my dad picked up his new 1970 Dodge Charger from a Chrysler dealership in Hamtramck, Michigan.
Chargers are tooooo big and heavy…
Jamie, you could use some of that C-channel steel you've got to make a vertical bracket to bolt the spare wheel at the front, side of the bed - wheel parallel to the bedside. The centerline of the vertical piece would be about where the "G" is on the drivers side (I'd put it on the pass side tho). Then two braces, one on the bedside and 1 to the headache rack to triangulate it. The wheel could be rolled up the ramp vs lifting it if needed. No length of the bed lost and only minimal loss of width. Place hook points on the bracket(s) for strapping if needed. When looking for a Dana 80, some of the later 2nd gen's with 80's had factory disc brakes - that would be a nice upgrade if one could be found.
Now *that* is a smart solution! My only problem with it is that I wouldn’t be able to reach under the car to attach the front right strap. Maybe I could make it swing out… yes, I’m aware the very late second gen dually 80s could have disk brakes. People want $1000 for those axles. Drum brake units can be had for $400 or so. I don’t need four wheel disk that bad… but it would be nice.
Love your stuff. Just a suggestion for the spare carrier, reverse the tire putting the low side inboard near the frame and the weight of the tire and the frame will hold it in. You will only need a strap to keep it from bouncing. Granted it will be a little hard to retrieve the tire but it will be much more secured .
Interesting idea. I oriented it that way because it is wedged slightly into the flat bed between two stringers, helping to tuck it in a couple extra inches. I came up with a similar but different idea yesterday though - I’m going to angle those outside supports inward, such that they grab the tire when it is in position and it has to be lifted to come out.
The headache rack would look cool black. A front bumper/winch combo is a must too.
I want it to be black. And I had considered mounting a winch inside the bumper like I did on my red ‘85. It was super useful. But I think I may do a hitch mount instead, because I would also like to mount a mini bike up there for race day.
Ya that truck is a life project. Will never get "all done", enjoy. And thanks.
The ram truck has been very handy and is easier than towing a trailer
My grand vision was always to be able to move two cars, but I think that’s optimistic. I have found many useful jobs that it can do well in addition to hauling cars. I do like being contained on the one vehicle and not having to park a trailer, but it’s still long and parking is a challenge. My 2003 Ram with a trailer is definitely nicer to drive, and easier to load the car - but I have more fun with the ramp truck.
Wow, that's a great way to add a little shine. Here's a tip for rubber parts that have gotten hard. Soak in 50/50 wintergreen oil and rubbing alcohol.
Oh, that’s a good one!
Ugliest part of that wonderful truck is that bumper. Change that and rad support bushings ,call it good.😊
Oh trust me, it’s on the list. But both fenders and inner fenders are also cracked and disintegrating from chassis flex and bouncing around. All of that will go sooner or later.
Looks way better. Great truck.
Good afternoon will try and catch the live ,,,,,,,,,,Yeee Yeee 😊
If you didn’t use pressure treated wood. Mix equal amounts of diesel or kerosene and motor oil ( new or used, heavier grade the better) put in sprayer or not and either spray on or rub on to your wood truck bed. Best to do two coats, let the first coat soak in well. Also works better on rough cut lumber as it won’t be quite as slippery when it gets wet. I haven’t used it on non planed wood so I can only assume that it may be slippery. Anyways that’s what farmers use to do to fence post or when building ole barns. Some claimed that it last 25 years plus. I imagine the species of wood might have something to do with it also. Heck maybe try the penatrol on it, if you have that much of it. Just thinking outside of that damn box.
An edit on my comment. Should read that i haven’t used it on wood that HAS been run through a planer.
maybe angle iron border on the back of your flatbed wood? simple, easy, cheap, and should last forever. all the best - love ur channel, can’t afford a membership- but love it - and u cd have finished your ‘many are like it’ with the whole full metal jacket scene - keep up the good work! c
I could have. Haha. Funny enough, angle iron was my first idea. Then I tried a section of pipe, and learned that what I need is less height there, not more. So I’ve been ignoring it since ripping the pipe off.
Maybe you could make something above the cab for your spare tire on the red truck .....ya knw...like something they have on off road/Baja trucks
I have planned all along to build a wheel rack for spare race wheels and tires, and I could certainly put the truck spare up there as well. But I am worried about overall height. Going through drive throughs on my road trip was awesome.
thank you. tried to get my grandson to buy your chevy. he said hes saving for a mid 70s chev truck.
Ahhhh, gotcha. Well that’s alright, I sold it in a day to a viewer!
@Jamie, should you decide to move the tire. Think about extending out over the roof and if needed arms off the front to plate steel to the front bumper.
Tire rack above the roof has always kinda sorta been in my plan. I am a bit worried about losing the ability to go through drive throughs though.
As an old Vancouverite grease monkey, who now lives in Sudbury, Ontario, ( the road salt automobile graveyard of Earth), I can relate.
winter is almost here sir. not until spring now. but good thoughts.
Gotcha man i've installed enough tool boxes to know that you have drill drain holes in all of them and whenever possible drill them holes in each corner
I like the truck very much. Do not change the cab.
I am going to put the spare 4500 from my second gen in my first next summer. If you need anything for your transmission Long Range Gear north of Spokane are stand up guys. They gave me a fifth fix kit to limp along with while they built the trans I’m running now.
Good to know! I have a feeling I will end up rebuilding the transmission sooner or later.
As for the tire, how about welding the the rack at the front of the bed down to the side of the bed a holder, or something similar.
I don’t quite understand what/where you mean. If you are thinking hanging on the side of the bed like on some trailers, the bed is already 8’ wide. I can’t have that kind of overhang.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Hanging it high on the back of the vertical part of bed at the front where it above the hood of most cars. You might need to have some additional support to strengthen the vertical part of the bed by putting a triangle down to the side. As an alternative, have you ever seen an old race car truck from the 70s that stored tires up high across the front of the flat bed?
Shinier!
That ramp truck has the same messy electrical issues as my 1980 Aspen R/T, hope to see a how too fix😅 Cool video dude! 💯🏁
Luckily on this truck, the vast majority of that is extra. Haha.
We all know it`s never gonna be perfect. But good enough for the girls I go out with (we know that line, eh?). But with that bucket list this is gonna keep the content waltz rolling. The drivetrain rebuild sounds big. And it´s never that easy because "while I´m there…" and "shit, haven´t seen that before".
Til next time… Kind Regards
This is hilarious. I saw a previous video where you used the penetrol. In that, you pointed to this truck to show how well it turned out. So when you dropped this video, I saw the truck and my first thought was that the penetrol was apparently garbage because here we are just a few weeks later and that looks no different. Nope, you just recorded things out of order, as you probably should, and parts of this video were recorded before that other video. So, maybe it's not that funny but I had a good laugh.
Exactly. Haha. I *usually* try to keep things consecutive, but I wasn’t done with what I had hoped to get done on the truck so I ran the Belair video first. I did think about that issue, and I’m glad somebody caught it.
Could you mount the spare tire to the headache rack? Maybe even high up on it to keep it out of the way? Just a thought. Love the channel!
It can’t go right in front of the car, as that moves the car too far back, which extends the rear overhang, affects the weight distribution, and makes my header clearance problem worse. That’s where I was keeping it before. I have thought about mounting it on a roof basket type setup, and someone here suggested mounting it on a bracket between the bed and the headache rack, parallel with the side of the bed. I do like that idea and am considering it. Thank you!
The spare tire situation is ... unfortunate. I think it might be worth the effort to store the ramps under the decking on the sides, and lower the space the spare was sitting at between the rails. And/Or do a tilt mount.
On a positive note, the grill guard looks pretty damn good 👍
That’s always been my plan for the ramps. It would be much easier to put them under the center, but ultimately I was planning to enclose the bed sides, which would create compartments there as well. So I should probably just do that.
Old cop spotlight would be great on the A-Piller
I like it!
It's boiled linseed oil and the shine juice has a shot of WD40 in it. It will evaporate but just keep putting it on. It will build up.
Penetrol is 45% solvent, 5% or so boiled linseed oil, and a handful of other ingredients.
I think that red Chevy in the background was clouding your sentiment of the glorious Dodge ramp truck... picking up Camaros in trailer parks, not seeing it. Now I'm not saying it's parked too close to the Chevy with it's (Edit- maybe I was a bit rash)... well there it is.
Hey, the good news is it’s already sold. It’s still here for a few weeks, but we’re getting there…
I like the Frankenhauler.
engine oil is good on hard wood
Thought you were going to say the Penatrol reminded you of paint stripper after you applied it.
Haaahaha. Not that.
You could do a cab top spare or put a carrier on side of bed triangulate with headache rack
I considered the first, and someone else suggested the second, which I do like. The problem would be access to the front strap for the car on that side.
put a platform over the cab, mounted to the headache rack, to place the spare
I’ve discussed plans to put a wheel rack up there in past videos but didn’t mention it in this one. The idea would be to have spare mounted slicks / radials, but obviously the truck spare could fit too. We’ll get there.
Red rum! Oops, Red Ram! Sorry, accidental vowel movement.
@@michaelatkins9780 ha, I thought you said accidental Bowel movement!😂
@@Coronetguy being a Boomer both possibilities have probability of occurring.
Haaahaha. Nice.
Move the tool box on the passenger side and put the spare in its place up against the headache rack
Can’t stand the tire up like that. Pushes the car too far back and the headers will be on the deck. That small box is actually under the front of the car when it is in position.
Headache rack holds spare and a lot more no drama
It has been a consideration. I’m not looking forward to the literal headache I will get everything I am reminded it is there the hard way. But it will solve some problems.
i think my neglect everything and do little things upgrades is radios and speakers for like everything in the fleet
Can you paint over Penetrol, or is it one of those things that makes it seem like your trying to paint a teflon surface? I used Zep floor shine on my Valiant, it takes something like 5 to 10 coats to make it work and it only lasts about a year and then you have to do the 5 to 10 coat process over again. If you want to paint the car you use floor stripper on it and it doesn't leave a residue. Which I may due someday. The Penetrol does leave a nice patina finish on your ramp truck. Good job!
Not only can it apparently be painted over, but they actually suggest that as a usage for it on the can. It contains a very small amount of boiled linseed oil, among other exciting chemicals, so I do have to wonder how well that works.
Es chiny meng 😎
Never heard of Penetrol before, but have you ever thought about using Nyalic? I used it quite extensively at Caterpillar and at Disney. Does the same thing but it’s absolutely permanent.
I’d never heard of it before. That’s interesting. Looking forward to gauging the lifespan of the Penetrol finish in our climate.
Perhaps a “headache rack” tire rack? Like the race car guys do to their trailers.
That was my initial plan. The idea was to have room for spare race tires like old school haulers.
Flickering headlights? Check bonding/ground usually braided semi bare wire to firewall grd terminal.
That’s not it. I know what’s going on…
@DeadDodgeGarage cool. On older dodges, I've cured a lot of mystery gremlins starting there. Thanks for your content.
Far from finished or not, I'm STILL shocked at the driveability and reliability of this thing - considering I initially thought it was the sketchiest heap you ever attempted to drive home!
Oh, when I started, it was… it’s certainly much better now. Haha.
Good of you to point out....Chrysler Electrics...the American version of Lucas Electric... (Lucas 3 way switch....DIM/FLICKER/OFF!)...fellow that used to fool with Brit Bikes here? Had a jar of GENUINE LUCAS WIRING HARNESS SMOKE on his shelf....LOLOLOL!
Did you see my Jag video? I got in a LOT of punches at Lucas in that one 😅
@@DeadDodgeGarage Haven't seen the Jag vid, yet. Oh! Positive Earth! LOL!
Strap the spare to the bed side of the headache rack vertically
That’s what I did at first, but it moves the car rearward 8-10 inches, and I’m already hanging off the back. I need the weight as far forward as possible for stability.
What about hanging the spare on the grill guard? I'm a solid fashion of course.
I thought about the grandpa look, but that’s where I’m going to mount a pit bike eventually 😅
Your loose hardware on the toolbox was your leak. You'll want to seal that hardware with silicone. Or seamsealer if your fancy.
I’m fully aware. If it wasn’t such a giant pain to get to from the top, I would have already.
That penetrol looks great. Would that stuff work for resealing your wooden bed planks?
I *almost* tried that! I will spot test it at some point.
Technically speaking, you kinda need to seal both sides of the boards.
Build a basket on the roof, attach it to that backrest throw your spare up there..
That seems to be the popular solution. Incidentally, also one I had considered.
@@DeadDodgeGarage nice,,, that way you can put another toolbox down there where you have that spare and incidentally it looks like it might be sticking out some so you might want to reconsider.. I'm sure you have many ideas but the bed frame idea was top notch I like the idea...
I am curious how long that lube will stay shiny. There are products made to make dull headlights shiny, and they are basically a thin oil. All the reviews say the shine lasts 12 hours to two or three days and then it is worse than before when it dries to a haze.
I have the same surface rust problem on my stuff parked outside but I was afraid any protectant that had either oil or silicone would just make it impossible for the krylon spay paint to stick and not fisheye when the goo fades away.
I would have gone with some krylon on the hood on your truck. I did it once with three different colors and white lasted the longest by far. Or silver. Red only lasted a few months.
I don’t want to do that. I’ve done krylon touch up in the past with good results (absolutely nailed it on my ‘73 Challenger) but that’s not what I’m after.
Do they salt the roads where you live Jamie? They do where I do. It sux. I have a 2013 gmc sierra Denali 2500 duramax that I bought new. But the salt where I live is trying to kill it. I just POR 15’d the entire underside. I will report back on how that goes.
This is the Northwest ; we get a couple of weeks of snow and salty roads a year so even though we do most cars don't get very Rusty at all.
Yeah, what he said. It’s pretty much a non issue - and that’s why all of these classics hang around. The rust we do get is from the excessive rain and is found where moisture ends up sitting. Much easier to deal with than the salty kind.
Down here in Oregon I've NEVER seen then salt a road.
In central and western Orygun the cinder the roads.....as well as the passes over the Cascades.
I made ONE trip to Montana and I had rust starting EVERYWHERE there wasn't painted metal on my '98 Cummins Ram.