I was so proud of my first door/jamb a nice new door, then I went and used the red can stuff around the perimeter had binding everywhere after it cured, have only ever used the blue can since. You definitely need to mask off any finished surface
I know what you're talking about because I made that mistake the first time I used spray foam. And the second time. And almost the third time. But by then I learned my lesson. It expands more than you think!! Haha it's useful if you use it right. Also it's pretty much a one time use can. Also... don't wear ANYTHING that you care about. It will get on you somehow and it will stay there forever and it never stops being sticky. Yeah I guess just avoid using it altogether if possible. That's probably best.
Yeah man the stuff is kind of a nightmare. I am sure there are people out there that swear by the stuff but I cant get down with that. Have you ever got it on your hands?? Its horrible!! Thanks for checking out the video!
First of all, you gotta use the gun if you want clean work and reusable cans indefinitely, second, wear protection - eye glasses and gloves are a must, you don't want this crap getting onto your eyes especially. And totally agree that you shouldn't use clothes that you care about
If used correctly and with proper educating on the product it can be an effective product. I think what the problem is is that people don't think first about what they are using or doing which end up creating more work. Measure twice cut once applies to more than just wood. It's a saying of think about what you are doing before you do it and double check you thought about everything before making a final choice
People need to realize there's a huge difference between the 'big gap' filler and the 'window and door' foam. And you need to use them under the right conditions. Both types of foam also need access to air to cure, because the humidity in the air is part of the curing process...says so right in the directions, that most people probably don't read. Personally I don't like the 'big gap' filler and rarely use it, but the 'window and door' foam really is great stuff, if used properly. My experience has shown that the 'big gap' filler wants to keep expanding continually and quite dramatically (for a long time) in comparison to the window and door version, and if you try to fill too large and deep an area at a time, it will harden on the outside but will still be wet and gooey on the inside, even a few days later. It also dries to a much harder shell than the window and door foam, which makes it a lot harder to remove later, if it's ever necessary. The 'window and door' foam is much easier to work with and expands much less (but still a lot!), the foam is much softer in comparison, and I've never had or seen any issues with it drying on the outside and staying wet on the inside. My choice hands down, is almost always the 'window and door' foam. But BOTH foams can make a real mess and leave residue that CAN'T be cleaned off after scraping, without harming the surface it's adhered to...so if there's any doubt, take the time to cover the area in question and put some cardboard on the floor in case it drips, or you might be sorry later. If needed, ACETONE usually removes wet or partially cured foam, but nothing removes it when fully cured, other than scraping. Remember also, that acetone may damage many wood finishes, paints, and plastics etc so use it sparingly, and at your own discretion, but it works if you catch it in time. Hope this helps someone.
Lol the comment i see it all the time. Makes stuff worse. Yeah the windows went bad because you used spray foam. User error doesn't make a product bad.
All you have to do is put painters tape on both sides of every finished edge in the working area(not covering the gaps) and cover anywhere further out with plastic if you think it'll flow that far.
Get it and seen that. Spray foam is great if used properly and using the right product also makes a difference. I use non-expandable foam for cracks and smaller gaps. I tape adjacent surfaces if possible to prevent it from sticking when it does expand, and install trim once it is cured and shaved. Expandable foam is great for deep holes and cracks but that's about it for me. Insulation is also a great product but when installed, if it is compressed too much, it serves no purpose other then being a draft stopper. Each has a purpose and have drawbacks if improperly installed. With foam, I have seen windows and doors bow inwards, cracking panes and jamming doors! Like you, I've seen trim bulge and snap and new floors damaged by spills. Some people really don't know what they are doing. Good video and good point.
Thank you. I guess that is my biggest point. If you don’t know, don’t even touch the stuff. It is not a solution to everything. Thanks for the comment and for checking out the video!
You think fiberglass is better? Open up a wall or even around a door, etc where the fiberglass is dirty as hell. Fiberglass lets air flow right through it, so you'll see a lot of dirt and even mold that gets trapped in the cavity. I'm sure you know that since you do a lot of repairs.
I think its messy as hell and rarely use it. But when I do, the pro stuff is much better, even has a separate can of spray cleaner that eats it away like acid. Better for clean up and reusing spray nozzles.
I watched this worrying i wouldnt be able to do my project. This just made me less worried. No surface will be finished nor was i planning on just going ham because ik hoe the foam works. Time to make my garage no longer a heat trap lol
My father worked in the space capsule industry way back when. The industry created the expanding foam, but had issues with cutting it. It was used for insulation of the tiles on re-entry to earth. He brought home a bunch of the chemicals to try and create a cutting tool that would not dull and still leave a clean edge. I still have 2 of his fiberglass knives he developed and they still cut the foam like butter. The foam is s a 2 part chemical from the 60s or 70s.
@@tippytoby7271 actually he, nor i can legally do that. It was part of his contract with the employer ( north American aviation, aerojet General, or one if the many he worked for ). His developments , and there were MANY, belonged to the company.
I would have liked to see the difference if you had left both samples uncovered for an "apples to apples" comparison. The sample on the right might not have sought out other holes and cracks to escape from had the wood been left off the top. Just a thought. I try not to use it if I don't have to because it can get messy. Great channel. I am a subscriber.
The previous owners of my house used spray foam on EVERYTHING. Pests chew right through it and it looks like a complete mess! A big project of mine is scraping off all the excess and using caulk to make everything nice and neat.
Thats not spray foam. thats canned foam. Nobody should apply the canned foam then put the trim on directly after. Even say on the can allow 24hrs to cure. Also 2 different types of canned foam, window and door (low expansion) and All seasons foam (full expansion). your DIY example did exactly what it was supposed to do, filled every crack and crevise
This is a good video, I just never saw anyone seal off the spray foam without letting it cure first. We always let it cure, cut off the excess and only then install decorative materials
BTW the stuff in your video is not the same as spray foam which is a two part material. Of course you are right improperly applied material is bad. Door and window crack filling foam is fine applied lightly in the back of the gaps around doors and windows to seal gaps, not fill them.
the window and door one has lower expansion to prevent pushing against you jamb and causing exactly the issues discussed here. I believe it's more flexible too, once cured. the gap filler says on the bottle to fill 50% of the gap (could be even less on the big gap filler). that's why the one of the left had so much excess too. both sides ignored the manufacturer's instructions.
I built a log home and used a quick applicator type product like great stuff. It was used between every log before the log was set in place to minimize air gaps. Worked great. Many months later after the logs had stabilized from shrinking, I reapplied in selective drafty locations. It made it super easy to seal and worked well. It was just a pain to cut off the excess and wow what a mess when you get it on your hands and clothes.
"Oh, darn, got a blob of expanding foam on my hand/tool. Better wash it off quickly..." This is the real problem with people unfamiliar with the product using it imo lol.
Well you sprayed way to much.. lol I would have just did one line of foam considering it expands. I don’t know why you would fill the whole thing knowing it expands.
This demonstration is silly, it's contrived to fail. You're just fulfilling your own prophecy. It's not useful to deliberately misuse a product to prove it's not good. Obviously, don't seal off cavity that you just foamed up, especially if when using the big gap version. Of course, you should mask-off finished areas that might get spilled on. I'm not a fan of expanding spray foam either, but in some situations it is a good solution.
You can get a lot of good results for short money with spray foam but I would advise NOT to wear the Dior Homme Kenny silk shirt you borrowed from your brother while using it, it loves to stick to everything and not come off.
Lol i have an attic door well unfinished upstairs and i do have this where there is gap but i have told myself no eont use foam here because if it expands too much it will pinch the door jam and then have door rubbing or worse not close, best to get foam board and cut to fit nice where it wont start to change the door jam frame causing issues.
Let me explain how these products are used. "Big Gap" is for gaps, not for a closed box. "Window and Doors" is for doors and windows. The one called "Window and Door" is supposed to expand very far, the big difference is it expands out of the frame instead of expanding and breaking your window. I like these products, but when they get exposed to harsh environments like exposed to outdoors they basicallt turn to into dust. The big gap also becomes very hard, I sprayed a bunch of it in one area, and later I had to use a large crowbar to remove it. Roxul is one of the best insulation to use, this may be the safest option.
Good for filling gaps in open corners, not so much for confined spaces. I am going to be using some in my attic next week to fill a hole for cables the previous owner left me. But it has room to expand into the space.
I'm not for or against it. I just know it's the stickiest, messiest insulator, hole filler there ever was. But you have to admit, it sure did a good job of that 2nd job that was supposed to be the mess. I mean a little sanding and that is a fine filler right there.
I bought some for a small project: I'm making an insulated box to transport kegs, and I want to cover the corner joins between the Styrofoam sheets. In my case the foam has space to escape, and it's stickiness and gap-filling properties are appealing, so I think it's still the best product for the job... Having said that, it'll only take half a can, and the can says you should use the whole lot in 48 hours, so I've been looking for other applications. Maybe that's why people use it inappropriately, they wanna get value out of the can!
That is a great point! Could very well be why (in my construction days) I saw it EVERYWHERE! Thanks for checking out the video! Sounds like you have a cool project on your hands!
Do A video with fiber glass installation and see if you can fill up the gap. Do a test with a smoker to see if there is a air leak. Put fiber glass in the same thing and then fill it with water to see if it leak out the bottom or nail hole.
Odd use here, but im a tabletop gamer. We LOVE spray foam, since we can make scenery out of it. It's cutable, shapeable, and super cheap to come by for the volume you get in a can. If you guys ever wanna toss spray foam, find a gamer-theyll be happy to take it off your hands 😁
guy on youtube drilled holes in the outside of his roof and filled the entire thing with spray foam...hundreds of dollars...he thought it wasnt filling, so he kept drilling holes and adding more...outcome was foam oozing out everywhere on the roof and inside ceiling panels ... I hate that stuff
I'm not a fan. Like everyone, I always overuse it. It reminds me of The Blob. It will go where ever it wants. 🤢 The fiberglass insulation is much easier on a newbie like me. Thanks for the demo.
The one place I found it really useful was in sealing up my bulk head. I bought the one that's insect resistant and I got every little gap between the metal and the foundation.
@@TheFixerHomeRepair maybe not false information. More of misrepresentation of information. Regardless of what your opinion is. And at least where I live city code requires insulation around windows. Spray foam provides excellent performance. You just have to use the correct non expanding spray foam. In the correct way. In your test. What did you expect to happen? Also, in your demonstration. You did not follow proper instruction guide lines.
Seems like fiberglass insulation is the best way to go, you have as much leeway and full control. Foam it's roll the dice. Seems like there would be better applications for spray.
I did overfill around a window once and the foam bowed the neighboring stud out. I have since learned to spray such gaps and cracks only halfway at first, then after the foam sets, filling the gap up the rest of the way. In northern Maine I have tons of cluster flies and the house is old. It simply has too many sheathing and framing gaps to go with conventional fiberglass and vapor barriers, so I am doing full depth spray foam and canned foam around windows and doors. I hate that I am making the house less renovation-friendly down the road, but there's just too much to seal without foam.
@@TheFixerHomeRepair Well, I guess you used it right then. Of course this stuff will blow out your work. Its in a pretty solid metal can. Just imagine the stuff they use to lift concrete.
Your points are all valid, however, I think it has its place when used with caution. I like to use it at points of electrical incursion on the exterior of a house, also sometimes in place of using backer rods in large gaps where I need to apply a silicone or other water proof sealant. For example, I recently replaced a Ring Floodlight Camera on the back of my own home. For whatever reason, the new camera/floodlight didn't seat anywhere near as flush (over 1/4") against the brick as the prior floodlight. The gap between the light's base and the brick was clearly a little too wide to close with a bead of silicone sealent/caulk alone and would normally have required a foam backer rod to help bridge the gap. Instead, used expanding foam, waited for expansion and curing, trimmed away and very quickly (less then 2 minutes) sanded the excess, and then applied the silicone waterproofing over the top. I can see, however, this could really be a pain to remove as opposed to traditional insulation.
Try to minimize problems by not sealing completely until foam has expanded. I too have been surprised by how much and for how long it can expand. On the whole I like using it as it stops air flow dramatically. I have an old house and had thought to do more but any more restrictions will necessitate the purchase of an air exchanger that would also be costly to run especially in the winter.
I don’t know anything about professionally installed foam installation but I know the canned stuff is something I stay away from! Thanks for checking out the video!
You just talked me out of using something like Great Stuff for the project I'm planning. The uncontrollable expansion is a drawback I hadn't considered. Thanks!
Do you think you could have halted the clothes dryer for 5 minutes during filming ? Ha ! Good production and content so I’m sending this to my old bosses who load up walls everywhere they go thinking they’re doing homeowners a big favor .
Haha I knew someone would call me out on the dryer. Trust me, if I stopped the dryer my day would have gone downhill fast haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
Seems to me that you hate foam when SOMEONE ELSE has used it. You really need to know how much the foam will expand, and when to stop. People that don't know, will use too much, and it bursts out all over when it cures (as you demonstrated). You can limit the expansion if you pierce all along the foam as it cures, but the stuff is very messy and impossible to get off your fingers or a screwdriver, or what you may use. Best to use a tooth pick and just toss it when done. Also, if you are filling a very large cavity, say between joists in a floor or ceiling, you need to place in a layer that is only an inch or so thick, let that 1st layer cure for about 20 minutes, then the next layer, then cure another 20 minutes. If you fill the whole thing at once, it will smell awful for many, many years. At the end of the day, the R value is so much better than fiberglass or cellulose. Plus, as you demonstrated, it fills all voids. Fiberglass will not do that. I have found that over the years, fiberglass breaks down and becomes less effective, and vermin like to make nests in fiberglass.
I never imagined that the one done your way would have expanded like that since you left a good amount of space from the top. It's just too hard to put a reasonable amount so for that reason, I guess we shouldn't use it.
I do have to disagree because you should have used window and door spray foam which would give better results
Yeah I get it. Maybe I should have. But I wanted to go BIG haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
I was so proud of my first door/jamb a nice new door, then I went and used the red can stuff around the perimeter had binding everywhere after it cured, have only ever used the blue can since. You definitely need to mask off any finished surface
I know what you're talking about because I made that mistake the first time I used spray foam. And the second time. And almost the third time. But by then I learned my lesson. It expands more than you think!! Haha it's useful if you use it right. Also it's pretty much a one time use can. Also... don't wear ANYTHING that you care about. It will get on you somehow and it will stay there forever and it never stops being sticky. Yeah I guess just avoid using it altogether if possible. That's probably best.
Yeah man the stuff is kind of a nightmare. I am sure there are people out there that swear by the stuff but I cant get down with that. Have you ever got it on your hands?? Its horrible!! Thanks for checking out the video!
First of all, you gotta use the gun if you want clean work and reusable cans indefinitely, second, wear protection - eye glasses and gloves are a must, you don't want this crap getting onto your eyes especially. And totally agree that you shouldn't use clothes that you care about
If used correctly and with proper educating on the product it can be an effective product. I think what the problem is is that people don't think first about what they are using or doing which end up creating more work. Measure twice cut once applies to more than just wood. It's a saying of think about what you are doing before you do it and double check you thought about everything before making a final choice
It’s like ‘fun with science’
Yes! I did have fun making this video! Hope you enjoyed it as well!
Why would anyone seal up expanding foam before it's finished expanding?
No SH*T!🤣😂
As it is applied it expands. The issue is it is.not.clear when the expansion ends.
You have to use it right, I've used it for 20 years, no problems. Reading instructions goes a long way...
"Hu-durrr" ~ you
Yeah, no. The stuff is hot garbage and there's almost no use case where backing rod isn't the right choice 👍
so you made the same mistake as everyone else. Just do a half inch layer and let it expand for a day and go one layer at a time.
People need to realize there's a huge difference between the 'big gap' filler and the 'window and door' foam. And you need to use them under the right conditions. Both types of foam also need access to air to cure, because the humidity in the air is part of the curing process...says so right in the directions, that most people probably don't read. Personally I don't like the 'big gap' filler and rarely use it, but the 'window and door' foam really is great stuff, if used properly. My experience has shown that the 'big gap' filler wants to keep expanding continually and quite dramatically (for a long time) in comparison to the window and door version, and if you try to fill too large and deep an area at a time, it will harden on the outside but will still be wet and gooey on the inside, even a few days later. It also dries to a much harder shell than the window and door foam, which makes it a lot harder to remove later, if it's ever necessary. The 'window and door' foam is much easier to work with and expands much less (but still a lot!), the foam is much softer in comparison, and I've never had or seen any issues with it drying on the outside and staying wet on the inside. My choice hands down, is almost always the 'window and door' foam. But BOTH foams can make a real mess and leave residue that CAN'T be cleaned off after scraping, without harming the surface it's adhered to...so if there's any doubt, take the time to cover the area in question and put some cardboard on the floor in case it drips, or you might be sorry later. If needed, ACETONE usually removes wet or partially cured foam, but nothing removes it when fully cured, other than scraping. Remember also, that acetone may damage many wood finishes, paints, and plastics etc so use it sparingly, and at your own discretion, but it works if you catch it in time. Hope this helps someone.
Excellent information. Thanks for taking the time to add to this. And thanks for checking out the video!
Lol the comment i see it all the time. Makes stuff worse. Yeah the windows went bad because you used spray foam. User error doesn't make a product bad.
All you have to do is put painters tape on both sides of every finished edge in the working area(not covering the gaps) and cover anywhere further out with plastic if you think it'll flow that far.
The sprayfoam is great...if you want to protect a surface, then as with paint you need to mask
Get it and seen that. Spray foam is great if used properly and using the right product also makes a difference. I use non-expandable foam for cracks and smaller gaps. I tape adjacent surfaces if possible to prevent it from sticking when it does expand, and install trim once it is cured and shaved. Expandable foam is great for deep holes and cracks but that's about it for me. Insulation is also a great product but when installed, if it is compressed too much, it serves no purpose other then being a draft stopper. Each has a purpose and have drawbacks if improperly installed.
With foam, I have seen windows and doors bow inwards, cracking panes and jamming doors! Like you, I've seen trim bulge and snap and new floors damaged by spills. Some people really don't know what they are doing.
Good video and good point.
Thank you. I guess that is my biggest point. If you don’t know, don’t even touch the stuff. It is not a solution to everything. Thanks for the comment and for checking out the video!
You think fiberglass is better? Open up a wall or even around a door, etc where the fiberglass is dirty as hell. Fiberglass lets air flow right through it, so you'll see a lot of dirt and even mold that gets trapped in the cavity. I'm sure you know that since you do a lot of repairs.
Good test thanks
I think its messy as hell and rarely use it. But when I do, the pro stuff is much better, even has a separate can of spray cleaner that eats it away like acid. Better for clean up and reusing spray nozzles.
Interesting, I’m not sure if I ever used the pro stuff. I will have to look the next time I am at the store. Thanks for checking out the video!
I watched this worrying i wouldnt be able to do my project. This just made me less worried. No surface will be finished nor was i planning on just going ham because ik hoe the foam works. Time to make my garage no longer a heat trap lol
My father worked in the space capsule industry way back when. The industry created the expanding foam, but had issues with cutting it. It was used for insulation of the tiles on re-entry to earth. He brought home a bunch of the chemicals to try and create a cutting tool that would not dull and still leave a clean edge. I still have 2 of his fiberglass knives he developed and they still cut the foam like butter. The foam is s a 2 part chemical from the 60s or 70s.
You should develop and market his invention. You'll be a millionaire.
@@tippytoby7271 actually he, nor i can legally do that. It was part of his contract with the employer ( north American aviation, aerojet General, or one if the many he worked for ). His developments , and there were MANY, belonged to the company.
I'm curious as to what the experiment would have looked like with window & door spray foam.
I would have liked to see the difference if you had left both samples uncovered for an "apples to apples" comparison. The sample on the right might not have sought out other holes and cracks to escape from had the wood been left off the top. Just a thought. I try not to use it if I don't have to because it can get messy. Great channel. I am a subscriber.
Great point! Thanks for checking out the video!
The previous owners of my house used spray foam on EVERYTHING. Pests chew right through it and it looks like a complete mess! A big project of mine is scraping off all the excess and using caulk to make everything nice and neat.
Further proving my point! Haha. I hope it goes well for you! Thanks for checking out the video!
The previous owners of your home did not use the"insect"repelling spray foam & that's why it was chewed through, duh!
Thats not spray foam. thats canned foam.
Nobody should apply the canned foam then put the trim on directly after. Even say on the can allow 24hrs to cure.
Also 2 different types of canned foam, window and door (low expansion) and All seasons foam (full expansion).
your DIY example did exactly what it was supposed to do, filled every crack and crevise
Same for gorilla glue.
This is a good video, I just never saw anyone seal off the spray foam without letting it cure first. We always let it cure, cut off the excess and only then install decorative materials
just needs three times the volume to expand into - laws of physics/common sense (hint: read the instructions)
BTW the stuff in your video is not the same as spray foam which is a two part material. Of course you are right improperly applied material is bad. Door and window crack filling foam is fine applied lightly in the back of the gaps around doors and windows to seal gaps, not fill them.
the window and door one has lower expansion to prevent pushing against you jamb and causing exactly the issues discussed here. I believe it's more flexible too, once cured.
the gap filler says on the bottle to fill 50% of the gap (could be even less on the big gap filler). that's why the one of the left had so much excess too. both sides ignored the manufacturer's instructions.
I built a log home and used a quick applicator type product like great stuff. It was used between every log before the log was set in place to minimize air gaps. Worked great. Many months later after the logs had stabilized from shrinking, I reapplied in selective drafty locations. It made it super easy to seal and worked well. It was just a pain to cut off the excess and wow what a mess when you get it on your hands and clothes.
"Oh, darn, got a blob of expanding foam on my hand/tool. Better wash it off quickly..." This is the real problem with people unfamiliar with the product using it imo lol.
Well you sprayed way to much.. lol I would have just did one line of foam considering it expands. I don’t know why you would fill the whole thing knowing it expands.
Exactly, I did that as an example of people not knowing how it works and showing what happens when you make that mistake. Thanks for watching!
This demonstration is silly, it's contrived to fail. You're just fulfilling your own prophecy. It's not useful to deliberately misuse a product to prove it's not good. Obviously, don't seal off cavity that you just foamed up, especially if when using the big gap version. Of course, you should mask-off finished areas that might get spilled on. I'm not a fan of expanding spray foam either, but in some situations it is a good solution.
You can get a lot of good results for short money with spray foam but I would advise NOT to wear the Dior Homme Kenny silk shirt you borrowed from your brother while using it, it loves to stick to everything and not come off.
Lol i have an attic door well unfinished upstairs and i do have this where there is gap but i have told myself no eont use foam here because if it expands too much it will pinch the door jam and then have door rubbing or worse not close, best to get foam board and cut to fit nice where it wont start to change the door jam frame causing issues.
In Alaska spray foam is more common than bread
Like everything else, a good tool is a good tool only if it is used properly.
Let me explain how these products are used. "Big Gap" is for gaps, not for a closed box. "Window and Doors" is for doors and windows. The one called "Window and Door" is supposed to expand very far, the big difference is it expands out of the frame instead of expanding and breaking your window. I like these products, but when they get exposed to harsh environments like exposed to outdoors they basicallt turn to into dust. The big gap also becomes very hard, I sprayed a bunch of it in one area, and later I had to use a large crowbar to remove it. Roxul is one of the best insulation to use, this may be the safest option.
And that's how not to hold that spray.
And the simulating a representation of a door jam.. test blocks are eally short'
Good for filling gaps in open corners, not so much for confined spaces. I am going to be using some in my attic next week to fill a hole for cables the previous owner left me. But it has room to expand into the space.
Great point! Thanks for checking out the video!
In the proper application it’s Great Stuff. Period.
I'm not for or against it. I just know it's the stickiest, messiest insulator, hole filler there ever was. But you have to admit, it sure did a good job of that 2nd job that was supposed to be the mess. I mean a little sanding and that is a fine filler right there.
The one on the right you shouldn’t have put on the top until after it has cured.
Fiberglass is just an air filter. Spray foam keeps the cold wind out. Yes, any tool used improperly creates more work.
I bought some for a small project: I'm making an insulated box to transport kegs, and I want to cover the corner joins between the Styrofoam sheets. In my case the foam has space to escape, and it's stickiness and gap-filling properties are appealing, so I think it's still the best product for the job... Having said that, it'll only take half a can, and the can says you should use the whole lot in 48 hours, so I've been looking for other applications. Maybe that's why people use it inappropriately, they wanna get value out of the can!
That is a great point! Could very well be why (in my construction days) I saw it EVERYWHERE! Thanks for checking out the video! Sounds like you have a cool project on your hands!
gasoline taking my car way past my destination
pls halp
I did not have a problem but where i put it had space to breath. Its hard to work with though
Yes it is. Thanks for checking out the video!
Do
A video with fiber glass installation and see if you can fill up the gap. Do a test with a smoker to see if there is a air leak. Put fiber glass in the same thing and then fill it with water to see if it leak out the bottom or nail hole.
My thoughts...worst point NOT proven.
Odd use here, but im a tabletop gamer. We LOVE spray foam, since we can make scenery out of it. It's cutable, shapeable, and super cheap to come by for the volume you get in a can.
If you guys ever wanna toss spray foam, find a gamer-theyll be happy to take it off your hands 😁
And it doesn’t stick to clear food wrap. You can spray it on, let it cure then peel it off easily.
Used it for making faux candy canes for Christmas.
@@AB-ye7bw Interesting. I was using wax paper, but it will still stick somewhat. Have to try cyran wrap sometime, thank you!
guy on youtube drilled holes in the outside of his roof and filled the entire thing with spray foam...hundreds of dollars...he thought it wasnt filling, so he kept drilling holes and adding more...outcome was foam oozing out everywhere on the roof and inside ceiling panels ... I hate that stuff
Yikes. That is exactly what I am talking about. It is so unpredictable. Thanks for checking out the video!
I'm not a fan. Like everyone, I always overuse it. It reminds me of The Blob. It will go where ever it wants. 🤢 The fiberglass insulation is much easier on a newbie like me. Thanks for the demo.
Thanks for watching!!
The one place I found it really useful was in sealing up my bulk head. I bought the one that's insect resistant and I got every little gap between the metal and the foundation.
I have never used the insect resistant stuff. I could see it being useful for that. Thanks for watching the video!
You should educate yourself. Then remove this video. It's spreading false information. Then remake the video with the correct information.
Care to elaborate on the false information? This is an opinion based video with a simple real world demonstration…
@@TheFixerHomeRepair maybe not false information. More of misrepresentation of information. Regardless of what your opinion is. And at least where I live city code requires insulation around windows. Spray foam provides excellent performance. You just have to use the correct non expanding spray foam. In the correct way.
In your test. What did you expect to happen? Also, in your demonstration. You did not follow proper instruction guide lines.
I hate spray foam too.
spray foam slept with my wife
Seems like fiberglass insulation is the best way to go, you have as much leeway and full control. Foam it's roll the dice. Seems like there would be better applications for spray.
Yeah pretty much. Thanks for checking out the video!
I did overfill around a window once and the foam bowed the neighboring stud out. I have since learned to spray such gaps and cracks only halfway at first, then after the foam sets, filling the gap up the rest of the way. In northern Maine I have tons of cluster flies and the house is old. It simply has too many sheathing and framing gaps to go with conventional fiberglass and vapor barriers, so I am doing full depth spray foam and canned foam around windows and doors. I hate that I am making the house less renovation-friendly down the road, but there's just too much to seal without foam.
Spray Foam SUCKS! I hate it as well #sprayfoamsucks
Happy you are on my side haha
Makes me wanna say "omg stoooop! tooo much!!!" hahaha
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That's not spray foam that's can foam
GREAT RANT !!!! DIDNT REALIZE FOAM EXPANDS. I WAS GONNA USE IT FOR GAPS. THANKS FOR POSTING !!!!!!! SAVED ME !!!!!!
Fiberglass in a door jamb like that would do little to no air sealing which is the main reason foam is used in this application.
Ya Dude! It definitely sux especially when people use it in automotive repairs. It’s just a mess. 😉👍
The worst! Foam cant stop rust, that is for sure!
At 6:46 there's Goofy!
Haha It does look like him!
That is canned foam, not spray foam. Canned foam is for the sides of windows and if NOT suppose to insulate a building.
1. You used it wrong.
2. See number 1.
That was exactly the point...
@@TheFixerHomeRepair Well, I guess you used it right then. Of course this stuff will blow out your work. Its in a pretty solid metal can. Just imagine the stuff they use to lift concrete.
Your points are all valid, however, I think it has its place when used with caution. I like to use it at points of electrical incursion on the exterior of a house, also sometimes in place of using backer rods in large gaps where I need to apply a silicone or other water proof sealant. For example, I recently replaced a Ring Floodlight Camera on the back of my own home. For whatever reason, the new camera/floodlight didn't seat anywhere near as flush (over 1/4") against the brick as the prior floodlight. The gap between the light's base and the brick was clearly a little too wide to close with a bead of silicone sealent/caulk alone and would normally have required a foam backer rod to help bridge the gap. Instead, used expanding foam, waited for expansion and curing, trimmed away and very quickly (less then 2 minutes) sanded the excess, and then applied the silicone waterproofing over the top.
I can see, however, this could really be a pain to remove as opposed to traditional insulation.
6:46 foam dog
Try to minimize problems by not sealing completely until foam has expanded. I too have been surprised by how much and for how long it can expand. On the whole I like using it as it stops air flow dramatically. I have an old house and had thought to do more but any more restrictions will necessitate the purchase of an air exchanger that would also be costly to run especially in the winter.
We use it in refrigeration for our walk ins . Using it properly goes a long way. The best is hilti but the store bought stuff is not far off.
Not everything out of alarms How do I learn this the hard way
I’m for it. That bottle you used states not to use on windows and doors but in any case you used to much. Foam responsibly.
Hey, that’s all I’m saying. Foam responsibly.
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Excellent explanation! Now I get it!
Thanks for checking it out!
Like half of the videos in my "Home Shits" playlist are you explaining how to do stuff and why...so thanks!
Love it! And love the playlist name haha
Great video. I watched your front door install, which is also a great one. Using fiberglass, carefully, is the best method. Thanks
Open cell or close cell which one floats?
This further confirms that I'm going to use fiberglass insulation in my attic. I don't need those problems after drywall has been installed. Thanks!
I don’t know anything about professionally installed foam installation but I know the canned stuff is something I stay away from! Thanks for checking out the video!
U R the man! U R the professional
WOW!👀
You just talked me out of using something like Great Stuff for the project I'm planning. The uncontrollable expansion is a drawback I hadn't considered. Thanks!
Do you think you could have halted the clothes dryer for 5 minutes during filming ? Ha !
Good production and content so I’m sending this to my old bosses who load up walls everywhere they go thinking they’re doing homeowners a big favor .
Haha I knew someone would call me out on the dryer. Trust me, if I stopped the dryer my day would have gone downhill fast haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
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Hahaha Now I know what do you mean!!
I just want people to be careful haha
Seems to me that you hate foam when SOMEONE ELSE has used it. You really need to know how much the foam will expand, and when to stop. People that don't know, will use too much, and it bursts out all over when it cures (as you demonstrated). You can limit the expansion if you pierce all along the foam as it cures, but the stuff is very messy and impossible to get off your fingers or a screwdriver, or what you may use. Best to use a tooth pick and just toss it when done.
Also, if you are filling a very large cavity, say between joists in a floor or ceiling, you need to place in a layer that is only an inch or so thick, let that 1st layer cure for about 20 minutes, then the next layer, then cure another 20 minutes. If you fill the whole thing at once, it will smell awful for many, many years. At the end of the day, the R value is so much better than fiberglass or cellulose. Plus, as you demonstrated, it fills all voids. Fiberglass will not do that. I have found that over the years, fiberglass breaks down and becomes less effective, and vermin like to make nests in fiberglass.
I am for spray foam. You are making a big deal of nothing. Spray foam has many uses if used properly. You fill the gap 50% and any excess trim off.
WHAT IS WITH TERRIBLE MUSIC !!!!!!!!! can't hear the man speak!
I never imagined that the one done your way would have expanded like that since you left a good amount of space from the top. It's just too hard to put a reasonable amount so for that reason, I guess we shouldn't use it.
Yes Sharon. You never know what it is going to do. Thanks for checking out the video!
May I suggest you discontinue the video game background music? Or replace it with something classier such as softly played acoustic guitar?
it's the user not the foam.