That’s fantastic, I mean for a 4 cylinder stock, makes more power than Toyotas and jeeps v6’s. With this it should drive that much better! Love your vids!
Good timing, we have a few coming into stock early next week. Here's the link to buy: www.motoroso.com/p/2117228-afe-21-22-ford-bronco-19-22-ford-ranger-l4-23l-t-ecoboost-scorcher-gt-power-module
Had the AFE module for a 2.7 Bronco. Power seemed good but then the cross traffic alert would alarm. Shortly after that I would lose power and had to use the bypass module to run again. Sent unit back to AFE. Had to constantly contact them for updates. 3 to 4 weeks later, I finally got the unit back. It was worse than ever. They asked me to return it to them again saying they had rebuilt everything in it and wanted to check the harness to see if there was something wrong with it. I had sent it to them, at my expense, and now they wanted it again. They had the harness the first time I sent it to them. I decided to return it for a refund. Bought a JB4 and have had no problems.
Love it! Ford says the 2.3 gets 300hp stock though with 91 Octane. Is the 33 hp increase over the 87 octane rating of 275 as well as the 91 octane rating?
Their measurements are at the wheels on a dyno. I'm not sure which fuel they used, but my expectation would be that it was 91 octane. It's worth noting that their HP gains are at 4k RPM, not necessarily at peak HP. The dyno chart is on our 2.3L Scorcher listing page here: www.motoroso.com/p/2117228-afe-21-22-ford-bronco-19-22-ford-ranger-l4-23l-t-ecoboost-scorcher-gt-power-module
So it has been a while since you guys installed this product are the broncos still running well no dash lights or anything going on? I’m about to buy it and wanted to know if everything still runs good for you all. ( 2.3)
How does this work along with say like the gas pedal modules out there that do the same thing for throttle response? I mean the vehicle already has normal, Eco and sport modes? Standard sport mode has enough zing for me without messing with the Computer
They work very well together. The pedal commander does not increase any of the power output, it just makes the pedal more responsive/sensitive, which is great. The scorcher actually pushes the engineer to produce more power and torque. So, if you don't feel the need for more actual power, then you owuldn't need the scorcher. Certainly for anyone going to larger tire sizes, that extra power is needed fromt he 2.3L 4-cyl.
1. Besides gas mileage, is there any drawback to running in race mode? 2. Is it is easy to tie into the aux switches? I'd just want to trigger race mode, skip the intermediate levels, so a binary activation is fine. Thanks.
Hey Geoffrey, no there shouldn’t be any drawbacks to running in race mode, although it is pushing the boost harder, so I’d recommend an oil catch can as well. I have no idea if this could be wired into the aux switch, but I would not attempt that personally.
I'm not sure all that the Sport mode does, but typically from OEM it simply makes the throttle pedal more sensitive. Sometimes it might advance the output from the engine, but the Scorcher is going to push that further a little bit. It plugs inline with the MAP and TMAP sensors and tells the engine to send more boost. So, whatever sport is putting out, this will push it a little further. Additionally, the pedal commander is a great compliment, because instead of just one setting for pedal sensitivity defined by the sport mode, you'll have 36 levels of control!
Question- the grommet/opening in the firewall is being used for the clutch in a manual... so which opening is best to run the cable though, to the inside?
AFE Makes a scorcher for the 2.7L, but it's not our recommendation. On our own Bronco we found the best performance with the VR Tuned. +54HP and +100TQ on CA 91 Pump gas! Check out that video here: ruclips.net/video/iRXOgL2CnQQ/видео.html
I ran the Flowmaster Delta Boost piggyback on my 1.6 EcoBoost Transit van a few years ago and it would throw a CEL about once a week. Does the Scorcher GT ever cause a CEL? I kept a code reader/clearer in my glove box for this reason, but still bugged me.
The changes remain proportional in each of those modes. The device pushes the boost a little bit in each mode, but doesn't change the ECU functionality overall.
We are actually releasing a video in the next 2 days with the VR tuned tuber for the 2.3L and we did take it to a dyno! It makes more power than this AFE, check that out when it comes out. Should be in ~1-2 days!
No, but they do make it for your vehicle, different part number. Looks like it isn’t released yet. Please contact us on live chat with your email address and we can get back to you with lead time and take a pre-order.
@@Motoroso sent y’all a message with my email. Said it’s offline but you’ll send an Email tomottow. I appreciate the quick response at such a random hour y’all are great! Any timeline on when it might be out?
In the Sport, Sport+ and Race modes they'll be pushing more boost and producing more power, it's going to likely have a slight reduction in MPG, but it shouldn't be extreme. As usual, that'll have a lot more to do with how heavy your right foot is. We haven't used on on a 2.7L yet to be able to measure the exact change. We really like combining this product with the Pedal Commander as well, because using the eco mode on the pedal commander really slows down the pedal and that helps more than any other tool in reducing fuel consumption. On our 2.7L we bumped MPG from 17 up to 21 on an 800 mile road trip to San Diego, and we credit that to the pedal commander. We didn't/don't have the Scorcher on the 2.7L yet.
Not this exact part number, no. But they make scorcher modules for both the 1.5L and 2.0L in the Bronco Sport which engine do you have? This is the link for the 2.0L version, which bumper +35HP.... more than the 2.3L Bronco! www.motoroso.com/p/2192534-afe-scorcher-gt-module-ford-20-22-escape-21-22-bronco-sport-2022-maverick
And if you have the 1.5L it's + 21 HP, and thats this unit right here: www.motoroso.com/p/2213644-afe-scorcher-gt-module-21-22-ford-bronco-sport-15lt-ecoboost
So why not just simply buy the 2.7 in the first place. Will hold its value, will be true power and not an add-on, piggy-back item. When we sell these things, a few years down, the road, people will prefer the larger engine anyway…
@@Motoroso oreder banks re-open aug 15th for the '23.....if you are not in need of the truck now and can wait....it is worth it! This truck is well worth the wait i waited 2 years but that shouldnt be the norm moving forward....This truck is just flat out fun!!!
oreder banks re-open aug 15th for the '23.....if you are not in need of the truck now and can wait....it is worth it! This truck is well worth the wait i waited 2 years but that shouldnt be the norm moving forward....This truck is just flat out fun!!!
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Yes, this mod and it give you a 2.7 and you can still have the 7 speed, awesome!
That’s fantastic, I mean for a 4 cylinder stock, makes more power than Toyotas and jeeps v6’s. With this it should drive that much better! Love your vids!
that 2.3 is bad ass. my ranger as a tune and it flys
I love my 2.3, 7 speed... and I'm going check this out
Good timing, we have a few coming into stock early next week. Here's the link to buy: www.motoroso.com/p/2117228-afe-21-22-ford-bronco-19-22-ford-ranger-l4-23l-t-ecoboost-scorcher-gt-power-module
@Motoroso can this work if you got the ford factory race tune?
Thanks for the video!
Had the AFE module for a 2.7 Bronco. Power seemed good but then the cross traffic alert would alarm. Shortly after that I would lose power and had to use the bypass module to run again. Sent unit back to AFE. Had to constantly contact them for updates. 3 to 4 weeks later, I finally got the unit back. It was worse than ever. They asked me to return it to them again saying they had rebuilt everything in it and wanted to check the harness to see if there was something wrong with it. I had sent it to them, at my expense, and now they wanted it again. They had the harness the first time I sent it to them. I decided to return it for a refund. Bought a JB4 and have had no problems.
Love it! Ford says the 2.3 gets 300hp stock though with 91 Octane. Is the 33 hp increase over the 87 octane rating of 275 as well as the 91 octane rating?
Their measurements are at the wheels on a dyno. I'm not sure which fuel they used, but my expectation would be that it was 91 octane. It's worth noting that their HP gains are at 4k RPM, not necessarily at peak HP. The dyno chart is on our 2.3L Scorcher listing page here: www.motoroso.com/p/2117228-afe-21-22-ford-bronco-19-22-ford-ranger-l4-23l-t-ecoboost-scorcher-gt-power-module
Can definitely feel the boost holding longer in my 7-spd. Random question, is the red light on the controller always supposed to stay on?
The red light stays on when in race mode, but changes in the different modes. And yea, always stays on in the different modes.
2.3 to me is much more superior than 2.7 and much more reliable.
No
@@rtgrajedaminersedu yes
Pretty sure the cast iron on the v6 gonna be more reliable over time than the cast aluminum
I already have had experience with a 2.3 ranger and was tuned with with after market engine mods no issues
I appreciate the video. What kind of gas were you guys using for the testing? 87 or 93?
91
Is there any way to wire this up to the stock auxiliary switches in the Bronco?
So it has been a while since you guys installed this product are the broncos still running well no dash lights or anything going on? I’m about to buy it and wanted to know if everything still runs good for you all. ( 2.3)
The piggybacks are running great! No issues, as long as they’re installed correctly.
How does this work along with say like the gas pedal modules out there that do the same thing for throttle response? I mean the vehicle already has normal, Eco and sport modes? Standard sport mode has enough zing for me without messing with the Computer
They work very well together. The pedal commander does not increase any of the power output, it just makes the pedal more responsive/sensitive, which is great. The scorcher actually pushes the engineer to produce more power and torque. So, if you don't feel the need for more actual power, then you owuldn't need the scorcher. Certainly for anyone going to larger tire sizes, that extra power is needed fromt he 2.3L 4-cyl.
@@Motoroso thanks
That quick edit at the HP part tho lol
Have guys seen any numbers by adding this woth the K&N air filter kit as well?
No, but the extra air flow will be a benefit
1. Besides gas mileage, is there any drawback to running in race mode?
2. Is it is easy to tie into the aux switches? I'd just want to trigger race mode, skip the intermediate levels, so a binary activation is fine. Thanks.
Hey Geoffrey, no there shouldn’t be any drawbacks to running in race mode, although it is pushing the boost harder, so I’d recommend an oil catch can as well. I have no idea if this could be wired into the aux switch, but I would not attempt that personally.
Thanks for the info; a catch can is already on my list. Sorry I didn't see your reply last week.
Nice specs but can they do a better job on that tacky cheep looking control module.
How is the piggyback holding up?
How is this different than just putting the GOAT mode to Sport setting?
I'm not sure all that the Sport mode does, but typically from OEM it simply makes the throttle pedal more sensitive. Sometimes it might advance the output from the engine, but the Scorcher is going to push that further a little bit. It plugs inline with the MAP and TMAP sensors and tells the engine to send more boost. So, whatever sport is putting out, this will push it a little further. Additionally, the pedal commander is a great compliment, because instead of just one setting for pedal sensitivity defined by the sport mode, you'll have 36 levels of control!
Question- the grommet/opening in the firewall is being used for the clutch in a manual... so which opening is best to run the cable though, to the inside?
The cable is tiny, use any of them, but the biggest one is easiest.
Did you ever find one because it really tight in there lol
@@Sellersinktattoo I actually was able to sneak it through the grommet that the hood release cable goes through
@@MrOCEC thank you I’m going to do that then. Do you like the product?
Any advice/stats on what this can do for performance of the 2.7L?
AFE Makes a scorcher for the 2.7L, but it's not our recommendation. On our own Bronco we found the best performance with the VR Tuned. +54HP and +100TQ on CA 91 Pump gas! Check out that video here: ruclips.net/video/iRXOgL2CnQQ/видео.html
A lot easier and less expensive than the $7000 supercharger i put on my Jeep 3.6
How would it effect on fuel economy? Anyone experienced it?
Do they plan to offer the Bluetooth version for the 2.3 in the near future?
Not that we know of
@@alexlittlewood9654 thanks for the quick response
I ran the Flowmaster Delta Boost piggyback on my 1.6 EcoBoost Transit van a few years ago and it would throw a CEL about once a week. Does the Scorcher GT ever cause a CEL? I kept a code reader/clearer in my glove box for this reason, but still bugged me.
Havne't seen anyone run into a consisten CEL yet, just a brief one when installed backwards.
@@Motoroso Cool, thanks!
Is it compatible with 2.3L Manual?
Yes it is! Here is the link to the one that is compatible with the 2.3L: motoroso.link/0ab0da
Worth it for a manual transmission?
Depends.... do you like horsepower? I know my answer.
How does it work with the factory ECO, Normal and Sport modes with using the rotary knob on the 2.7L?
The changes remain proportional in each of those modes. The device pushes the boost a little bit in each mode, but doesn't change the ECU functionality overall.
I would love if someone did this on a dyno. Just to prove it on actual numbers and not feel
We are actually releasing a video in the next 2 days with the VR tuned tuber for the 2.3L and we did take it to a dyno! It makes more power than this AFE, check that out when it comes out. Should be in ~1-2 days!
Wonder if it will work on the ranger with the 2.3 ?
It will! It is even the same product. You can check it out here! motoroso.link/0ab0da
Do you think this would work with a bronco sport? It says on the website that it’s not confirmed
4 cyl 2.0L btw
No, but they do make it for your vehicle, different part number. Looks like it isn’t released yet. Please contact us on live chat with your email address and we can get back to you with lead time and take a pre-order.
@@Motoroso sent y’all a message with my email. Said it’s offline but you’ll send an Email tomottow. I appreciate the quick response at such a random hour y’all are great! Any timeline on when it might be out?
@@Matt-jj2wg Hey Matt, gonna respond on email as well, but it'll be out in 2-3 weeks, and we can take pre-orders now!
How does it affect mpg with normal driving on a 2.7? Same, more, less?
In the Sport, Sport+ and Race modes they'll be pushing more boost and producing more power, it's going to likely have a slight reduction in MPG, but it shouldn't be extreme. As usual, that'll have a lot more to do with how heavy your right foot is. We haven't used on on a 2.7L yet to be able to measure the exact change. We really like combining this product with the Pedal Commander as well, because using the eco mode on the pedal commander really slows down the pedal and that helps more than any other tool in reducing fuel consumption. On our 2.7L we bumped MPG from 17 up to 21 on an 800 mile road trip to San Diego, and we credit that to the pedal commander. We didn't/don't have the Scorcher on the 2.7L yet.
@@Motoroso thanks for the quick reply. When you get some of that info post it or let us know.
Hmmm... Every time he says the number gained of horsepower, it glitches and you can't hear the exact gains....
+33hp on the 2.3L
+40hp on the 2.7L
would this fit on the ssmaller ford bronco sport?
Not this exact part number, no. But they make scorcher modules for both the 1.5L and 2.0L in the Bronco Sport which engine do you have? This is the link for the 2.0L version, which bumper +35HP.... more than the 2.3L Bronco! www.motoroso.com/p/2192534-afe-scorcher-gt-module-ford-20-22-escape-21-22-bronco-sport-2022-maverick
And if you have the 1.5L it's + 21 HP, and thats this unit right here: www.motoroso.com/p/2213644-afe-scorcher-gt-module-21-22-ford-bronco-sport-15lt-ecoboost
Can you run this with 87 octane?
Can? Yes. Would I? No. You want higher octane fuel in a forced induction engine, especially the higher boost you run.
what's this do to fuel economy
MPG will take a slight hit from the performance gain, but as usual the biggest factor in your mpg will be how heavy your foot is on any given day.
Zang!
So why not just simply buy the 2.7 in the first place. Will hold its value, will be true power and not an add-on, piggy-back item. When we sell these things, a few years down, the road, people will prefer the larger engine anyway…
35: 431.2 cool code never seen that 1 b4.
Mounted right next to his pedal commander. 🤷
I can’t buy the bronco, no dealers have it.
Yessir, that’s kinda the deal right now! If you want one, gotta order it and wait. Worth the wait in our opinion!
@@Motoroso oreder banks re-open aug 15th for the '23.....if you are not in need of the truck now and can wait....it is worth it! This truck is well worth the wait i waited 2 years but that shouldnt be the norm moving forward....This truck is just flat out fun!!!
oreder banks re-open aug 15th for the '23.....if you are not in need of the truck now and can wait....it is worth it! This truck is well worth the wait i waited 2 years but that shouldnt be the norm moving forward....This truck is just flat out fun!!!