I have the bare bones manual Gen 2 Forester, interesting to watch you learning the car. They are amazing little machines once you get the hang of them.
iPhoneSasuke - Wow ! Thanks for this incredible video of your Subie Forester. I'm an Outback owner . . . you really showed off the Forester capabilities in the Russian snow. Looks like Subaru has carved out a solid position in your local market there -- no doubt powered along by the AWD system.
+Eric Harman Thanks for your comment. When I edited this video, I thought that it would be wrong to show only those moments where I can do everything from 1st try. I showed that 4WD doesn't exempt from the need to have the skills. If you've watched the video where the car 100% successfully climbed, then you would be very surprised in life, why you cant' dit it like me. It would be wrond. So I showed all my wins and fails.
I've been in situations a lil more severe than that. Left the traction control on and it pulled me right through. Using the brakes to lock certain wheels and send the power to the other wheels. Also I found the AWD responds perfect when you very your throttle response from %15 - %25 but that is hard to measure unless you have an after market read out. I take my forester places where I have doubts it could make it and it surprises me every time. Just watch your throttle input and turning your VDC and TCU off is not always the best option.
This is where the newer models with X-mode really are in their element. The older models without X-mode require constant throttle input to overcome obstacles like this while the computer sorts out where to direct power. This can sometimes take a couple seconds while X-mode reacts much quicker. Not horrible driving in this video, but I'd recommend staying in the throttle a bit longer than it seen here to let the computer do its thing.
RTFM and keep the gas on low, but FTFS keep it! You have to give time (as you did on 2:42 and later). Previpous attempts were just funny (giving lot gas for short time, then go on breaks - you shouldn't do that). Thanks for sharing anyway. Nice to see some real live tests : ) Good job.
Thanks for adequate comment. I want to believe that you understand that hill on the start and on 2:42 are different? Important: I used the breaks only when due to work of VDC (when I gave too much gas) car rolled back.
iPhoneSasuke You cannot overcome the situation when no tire has good grip. Impossible. At least one wheel has to have some friction. But there are really lot of those people who try to give lot of gas for short time, and then give up after maybe half a second. That is definately not a good way to manage slippery hills like that from your movie. So the 1st attempts looked like wrong handling. If there were no grip to all wheels - then you wont succeed anyway, but I am not sure if you were patient enough there? Anyway - seems that after all you controlled the car very well. Everyone has to learn their lessons. Well done.
Foresters are always hit or miss in terms of looks. Usually I'm not a big fan of them looks wise, but this one I think looks sharp. As for the hill at the beginning of the video, why was only the front or back tires spinning one end at a time? It looked like it was switching from front wheel drive to rear wheel drive. I was thinking maybe it was the VDC applying the brakes to the wheels with no grip (at least tires visible from camera perspective) but didn't see any initial slippage. Not trolling, just curious as I'm in the market for a Subaru (crosstrek) currently.
Are you shure that only front or back tires was spinning at one time? Try to watch in HD. Only those wheels which accounted for the greatest pressure (due to lack of torque, I think) was unable to spin - typically diagonally. VDC was unable to correct my rouge mystakes. Also, VDC can't fully lock wheel wich spinning in the air.
Open front diff with viscous lsd in centre and rear, you need to let the viscous spin to do its thing also use the brake to balance the open front diff, you can change the diffs in these things easily but the viscous unit is very unobtrusive on the road
its basically a test of the traction controls reactive system intelligence or lack there of , now imagine a Subaru with front and rear torsen differentials where the wheel in the air with no traction cant get all the torque , or a driver selected lockers . hyper advanced "dynamic reactive" torque vectoring AWD systems used on cars with each wheel driven by its own independent electric motor take this to a whole new level as they dont need to use the brakes for traction control at all these systems sense the active traction available on each well and as a whole hundreds of times a second "plus" they can dynamically stabilize the car if it over or under steers ruclips.net/video/bD2Do1gAuog/видео.html
Your tires are great! Stay steady on the gas and let the Symmetrical AWD magic work. I did a video explaining this here: ruclips.net/video/rgKCfZgQUwY/видео.html
Manual mode + 1st & 2nd gears = hard locking. Sometimes forward tires were unable to turn because of too big... how to say... pressure, and rear tires were unloaded, so they were able to turn... Watch my new video ruclips.net/video/NSOAPX6AnHo/видео.html
Jesus Faith Thats called a differential. Sends power to whatever wheel spins easiest. Also, to iPhoneSasuke, easier on the throttle, you'll get a lot more places... and wear your tires out a lot less.
iPhoneSasuke Вот вот!Зимой что то похожее было ,у меня липучка !Так вот на D с места с трудом ,потом перевел в СПОРТ режим и залетел не напрягаясь тоже с места и без разбега!!! ВДС кнопку не отключал ,вообще не разу ее не отключал!! А вот как мне говорил парнишка у него тоже форь sg9 перед нашим который ,у него можно на автомате принудительно на вторую поставить и спокойно заезжать на любой склон!!!
А у тебя какие с этим проблемы? В режиме Sport подергай селектор вверх-вниз) 2ю передачу можно врубить хоть на 60 км/ч, хоть с места. И понижаться не будет, можно еще для медленных пробок использовать. Надо учитывать, что в Sport и в ручном режимах привод работает по-разному: в Sport крутящий момент перебрасывается на усмотрение электроники, а в ручном при скорости до 60 км/ч на 1 и 2й передачах жесткая сцепка 50/50, а свыше 60 - 90/10 в пользу задницы (а в режимах D и Sport свыше 60 электроника еще может перекидывать момент туда-сюда). Без VDC тут не заехать, можешь с аннотациями посмотреть: там тупо все 4 колеса крутятся по полой и машина двинуться с места не может.
Дмитрий Круглов В зависимости от того, какая летняя резина. У GoodYear Ultra Grip Extreme 215/65 R16 одинакова по мягкости с моими летними Toyo T1-R 225/55 R17.
@@user-zr1gz7yi2w Продал с пробегом 86к км. Никогда не парился с подогревом. Сел в ледышку - врубил подогрев. Часто слышал про опасения за треск стекла, но ни разу. Ни лобовое, ни боковые, ни задняя полусфера. Что оригинальное лобовое, что китайские заменители. В общем, не парься.
+Дмитрий Васильев, она доживала последний сезон. Моя первая машина, я был далек от вопросов типа, на какой резине лучше ездить. Что родители купили - то на том и катался. P.S. Зато машину попытал как следует))
hey look who ever was driving they where playing because those cars do nuts act like that if you pay attention they were stalling playing games subaru has not ever been stalled before they did not give it time to back up further then that because they were playing if it was snow tires on them it would have made it they were strolling playing games don't believe what they were doing by making it seem like that they were trying to get up on that top surface I just wish they just stop bull craping
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Tires! Tires! The right Tires! Makes a Subaru great!
Субару, в комплексе с профессиональной прокладкой между рулём и сиденьем. Один из лучших автомобилей со своей не неповторимой душой!
Да тут просто снег рыхлый был. На сыром я бы далеко не уехал) А вообще, удивляюсь, как я так ездил без страха в свои первые годы)))
I have the bare bones manual Gen 2 Forester, interesting to watch you learning the car. They are amazing little machines once you get the hang of them.
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iPhoneSasuke - Wow ! Thanks for this incredible video of your Subie Forester. I'm an Outback owner . . . you really showed off the Forester capabilities in the Russian snow. Looks like Subaru has carved out a solid position in your local market there -- no doubt powered along by the AWD system.
I've glad that you enjoyed by my vieo & understand it correctly.
Thanks a lot iPhoneSasuke, it's great to see what the Forest can (and can't do) in such extreme conditions.
+Eric Harman Thanks for your comment. When I edited this video, I thought that it would be wrong to show only those moments where I can do everything from 1st try. I showed that 4WD doesn't exempt from the need to have the skills. If you've watched the video where the car 100% successfully climbed, then you would be very surprised in life, why you cant' dit it like me. It would be wrond. So I showed all my wins and fails.
I've been in situations a lil more severe than that. Left the traction control on and it pulled me right through. Using the brakes to lock certain wheels and send the power to the other wheels. Also I found the AWD responds perfect when you very your throttle response from %15 - %25 but that is hard to measure unless you have an after market read out. I take my forester places where I have doubts it could make it and it surprises me every time. Just watch your throttle input and turning your VDC and TCU off is not always the best option.
duuane cooper Yeah, that's right, incorrect working by throttle is the reason of my failures at 1st 2.5 min of video.
duuane cooper agreed. You can see at 3:55 is going slow and it's all fine.
No, you want traction control OFF. It handicaps you in snow and mud.
This is where the newer models with X-mode really are in their element. The older models without X-mode require constant throttle input to overcome obstacles like this while the computer sorts out where to direct power. This can sometimes take a couple seconds while X-mode reacts much quicker. Not horrible driving in this video, but I'd recommend staying in the throttle a bit longer than it seen here to let the computer do its thing.
HighjakSecondary hey I’m in Massachusetts and am trying to figure out what year Forster I wanna buy / build a little could you help?
RTFM and keep the gas on low, but FTFS keep it! You have to give time (as you did on 2:42 and later). Previpous attempts were just funny (giving lot gas for short time, then go on breaks - you shouldn't do that). Thanks for sharing anyway. Nice to see some real live tests : ) Good job.
Thanks for adequate comment. I want to believe that you understand that hill on the start and on 2:42 are different? Important: I used the breaks only when due to work of VDC (when I gave too much gas) car rolled back.
iPhoneSasuke You cannot overcome the situation when no tire has good grip. Impossible. At least one wheel has to have some friction. But there are really lot of those people who try to give lot of gas for short time, and then give up after maybe half a second. That is definately not a good way to manage slippery hills like that from your movie. So the 1st attempts looked like wrong handling. If there were no grip to all wheels - then you wont succeed anyway, but I am not sure if you were patient enough there? Anyway - seems that after all you controlled the car very well. Everyone has to learn their lessons. Well done.
! ! ! AWESOME ! ! !
! ! ! BORN TO BE WILD ! ! !
! ! ! WHAT A CAR ! ! !
Прикольно покатался) я б тоже так хотел, но у меня резины зимней нет))
The guys living in those hrusovskas in the back are getting a free auto show :P
Sweet! :-)
Foresters are always hit or miss in terms of looks. Usually I'm not a big fan of them looks wise, but this one I think looks sharp.
As for the hill at the beginning of the video, why was only the front or back tires spinning one end at a time? It looked like it was switching from front wheel drive to rear wheel drive. I was thinking maybe it was the VDC applying the brakes to the wheels with no grip (at least tires visible from camera perspective) but didn't see any initial slippage. Not trolling, just curious as I'm in the market for a Subaru (crosstrek) currently.
Are you shure that only front or back tires was spinning at one time? Try to watch in HD. Only those wheels which accounted for the greatest pressure (due to lack of torque, I think) was unable to spin - typically diagonally. VDC was unable to correct my rouge mystakes. Also, VDC can't fully lock wheel wich spinning in the air.
+iPhoneSasuke dt5y7
good vid good cam man
From the wheels that slip to the wheels that dont grip!
Billy Mayes?
did you have winter tires on that car?
I did. Watch the description.
Todo muy bien
Looks more like ice than snow
Двигатель 2.0 или 2.5 машинка какого года?
2.0. Год 2010.
У самого такой же, на механике, вот ещё блокировочку ему хотя бы одну, просто космос было бы
Open front diff with viscous lsd in centre and rear, you need to let the viscous spin to do its thing also use the brake to balance the open front diff, you can change the diffs in these things easily but the viscous unit is very unobtrusive on the road
VDC? On or Off?
While I've been trying to climb at the hill, VDC was OFF only once (turn annotations ON). At the driving on snow, VDC was always OFF.
Коробка автомат?
Да.
Manual?
Read description.
its basically a test of the traction controls reactive system intelligence or lack there of , now imagine a Subaru with front and rear torsen differentials where the wheel in the air with no traction cant get all the torque , or a driver selected lockers . hyper advanced "dynamic reactive" torque vectoring AWD systems used on cars with each wheel driven by its own independent electric motor take this to a whole new level as they dont need to use the brakes for traction control at all these systems sense the active traction available on each well and as a whole hundreds of times a second "plus" they can dynamically stabilize the car if it over or under steers ruclips.net/video/bD2Do1gAuog/видео.html
Need to VDC
SH Forester, the last good looking one...
Agree. Alto it's the most passable Subaru. Present SK can't do anything on offroad at all.
@@Muv-Luv I love old foresters. My SG Forester is my princess
Your tires are great! Stay steady on the gas and let the Symmetrical AWD magic work. I did a video explaining this here: ruclips.net/video/rgKCfZgQUwY/видео.html
А с разбега?
Очко поджималось)) Там же лед, твердая поверхность, и я едва не скреб пузом. Видео не передает объемности такой картинки, на самом деле.
И так не плохо Subaru!
I cant' believe how long the lag time is that the rear tire had to spin before the front started to turn...
Manual mode + 1st & 2nd gears = hard locking. Sometimes forward tires were unable to turn because of too big... how to say... pressure, and rear tires were unloaded, so they were able to turn... Watch my new video ruclips.net/video/NSOAPX6AnHo/видео.html
Jesus Faith Thats called a differential.
Sends power to whatever wheel spins easiest.
Also, to iPhoneSasuke, easier on the throttle, you'll get a lot more places... and wear your tires out a lot less.
I have a Wrangler a Grand Cherokee a Subaru Forester and a Ford freestar
Sometimes you can't get traction on anything
i agree with tdegler let the car do it it figers it out 09 outback let it snow
Not much to say pretty slippery slope anything might have spun out right there Jeep otherwise
That open diff though
Прости не к тебе именно вопрос.
На механике было бы повеселее) а так жаль вариатор) 15 года взял себе 2.5
Aleksandr Y Причем тут вообще вариатор?
You have to Learn how to drive in snow. Come to Iceland and practice
Guy, I've already sold these car a year ago.
Yeah I got irritated after watching him or her drive.
i can do that all day
And that's right!
Хорошее видео..только зачем на английском?
Просто англоязычная аудитория шире :) На моем канале 32% просмотров из США.
iPhoneSasuke Вот вот!Зимой что то похожее было ,у меня липучка !Так вот на D с места с трудом ,потом перевел в СПОРТ режим и залетел не напрягаясь тоже с места и без разбега!!! ВДС кнопку не отключал ,вообще не разу ее не отключал!! А вот как мне говорил парнишка у него тоже форь sg9 перед нашим который ,у него можно на автомате принудительно на вторую поставить и спокойно заезжать на любой склон!!!
iPhoneSasuke у тебя еще и резина другая..у меня что зимой ,что летом 255/55р17)) 215/65 R16 говорят мягче будет но пока не пробовал))
А у тебя какие с этим проблемы? В режиме Sport подергай селектор вверх-вниз) 2ю передачу можно врубить хоть на 60 км/ч, хоть с места. И понижаться не будет, можно еще для медленных пробок использовать. Надо учитывать, что в Sport и в ручном режимах привод работает по-разному: в Sport крутящий момент перебрасывается на усмотрение электроники, а в ручном при скорости до 60 км/ч на 1 и 2й передачах жесткая сцепка 50/50, а свыше 60 - 90/10 в пользу задницы (а в режимах D и Sport свыше 60 электроника еще может перекидывать момент туда-сюда). Без VDC тут не заехать, можешь с аннотациями посмотреть: там тупо все 4 колеса крутятся по полой и машина двинуться с места не может.
Дмитрий Круглов
В зависимости от того, какая летняя резина. У GoodYear Ultra Grip Extreme 215/65 R16 одинакова по мягкости с моими летними Toyo T1-R 225/55 R17.
автор лобовик как зимой от подогрева дворников не лопнул
За почти 10 лет владения ни разу не лопнул от этого. А вот камешки в городах из-под какого-нибудь Логана намного страшнее.
Посоветуй как зимой правильно подогрев дворников включать что бы Стекло сохранить пишут иза него ещё лопается
И напиши свой пробег
Если не сложно спасибо
@@user-zr1gz7yi2w Продал с пробегом 86к км. Никогда не парился с подогревом. Сел в ледышку - врубил подогрев. Часто слышал про опасения за треск стекла, но ни разу. Ни лобовое, ни боковые, ни задняя полусфера. Что оригинальное лобовое, что китайские заменители. В общем, не парься.
НА БАЙКАЛ РИСКНИ
Is he driving stupid on purpose.
на мой взгляд-резина херовенькая, слабый зацеп((
+Дмитрий Васильев, она доживала последний сезон. Моя первая машина, я был далек от вопросов типа, на какой резине лучше ездить. Что родители купили - то на том и катался.
P.S. Зато машину попытал как следует))
Not good to keep packing snow into area. Might want to fish tail it out
czyli nowy forek to jeden wielki kibel! haha
Kaka movie.
Так себе пилот
hey look who ever was driving they where playing because those cars do nuts act like that if you pay attention they were stalling playing games subaru has not ever been stalled before they did not give it time to back up further then that because they were playing if it was snow tires on them it would have made it they were strolling playing games don't believe what they were doing by making it seem like that they were trying to get up on that top surface I just wish they just stop bull craping
No permanent 4x4 how they claim in subaru..get lada niva,its better
workoholik75 i don't get it my impreza have never act like that.
Take a guess what I will never buy,
+scottishthroandthro67 ? Subarus are amazing in the snow. Period!
+scottishthroandthro67 a prius?