i'm looking to put snowblower tires on the back of my rascal to give it a little wider stance and more off road capabilities. i'm going to try using the front forks and wheel from an 8" kids bicycle in the front fork head tube to give it a bigger front wheel if it is close enough to make it work. you might try something like that if you haven't upgraded by now.
The motor will experience more drag with the larger diameter. It will go faster when there's a small load but it will not have as much acceleration. You will experience slower speeds uphill just like before.
My friend modified one of these for me to garden with but… he chopped it down so I sit on the floor, I can get close enough to the ground to garden now. I wore two motors out and now have to figure out how to replace the motor and shorten the front control arm. Any chance you could show this process in a video?
not to rain on your parade but I took you speed control . by cutting the bottom of a used & upcycled k-cup I added cruise control to my Afikim C4 & due to slip the otherday on my ride I discovered my C4 has a throttle engaged on start beep code.I had speed c. engaged & accidentally turned off power with C.C. still on so C4 wouldn't start till I turned it off. I love my C4 hope to get a S4 some day. thanks for ideas. I am turning my ol Pride Rally 3 wheeler into 4 wheel total custom will be going to 26" bicycle wheels & tires maybe using sets of 2 per hub to have plenty of weight capacity . body will look like a micro mini 1922 Ford TT C Cab panel delivery truck. wish me luck I'll be watching to see what you have next. really looking forward to your retreading tires that you talked about on here
i've done this with a hub motor, i used a bigger wheel, it certainly works, cost more battery tho, and if you can make the mobility scooter blind to speed, then it will be faster too.
It'll go faster, but you lose torque, so harder to climb hills, carry heavy passengers, and slower to accelerate. If it is too much of a gearing change it could strain the motor, potentially even burn it up. Interesting experiment, youtube.
instant thought, bend the fork out a few degrees, bend the upper fork out and bend the lower fork back have an inverted L. my bad, my ascii characters are limited to ½ and ¼
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 did you use something like a Briggs engine? The really fast ones that I've seen seem to be go karts with the seat and tiller from a mobility scooter on. Then a motorcycle engine driving it.
Wish I could help you out more . Here is what I know .. Every model and maker has a different size hub . I have 2 Of these scooters different years same model, with different hub and bolt pattern sizes .. You will have to measure your lug bolts and the axle and order what your scooter needs . It makes a speed difference you will not even believe till you do the mod .. Be careful , With a fresh charge on the battery pack it can get away from ya .. God Bless & Happy Easter !!
JUST CAME ACROSS YOUR UPGRADE. I'M DOING THE SAME WITH MINE. GOT THE BIGGER WHEELS FROM SOMEONE TOSSING THEM OUT. LOOKING FOR THE HUBS. WHAT'S THE DIAM AND WHERE YOU GET THEM?
they make a few sizes of axles , Mine was 19mm . But the other scooter I have is 1 inch . I bought the hubs on Ebay . Make sure the lug bolt pattern is right as well . It helps to know what brand and model the wheels came from .. Thanks !!
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 when you gain speed you always lose torque but if you have enough torque it usually don't show up on these little electric scooters that bad it's just like in the motorcycle industry you got to know what size sprocket . Its a it's a mathematical formula. As, on anything including automobiles the size of the tire can literally change your overall ratio
NOPE.. Battery seems to last the same I have a meter on the dash to keep track .. Pulls any ramp I want to climb And goes WAY faster ! Had many say the same .. Just depends on how big you go on the tire size .. Mine is PERFECT !!
As a person that has a 4-wheel version of this type of scooter, I like these ideas. I might have to look for some simulr things for my own scooter. I just do not have the funds to do some of these changes howeer. I have already made a 'holder tree" for things I have added to my scooter (Cell phone holder, tblet holdcer, head light, better horn, a bigger basket, and back-up camera) I wish I could upload a pic of my tree.
I also have a 4 wheeler (pulled-from-the side-of-the-road) that I'm dying to find the time to mess with starting by adding taller wheels/tires and changing to a more ergonomically and lightweight seat if I have to build one myself.
The standard wheel size is in case the rider is 400+lbs obese, and capable of taking such people up small hills. The motor may overheat and need to cool down after a long day, but I doubt the battery would last that long. No overvolting and ruining coils. No 'burnout'. If anything the bigger wheels are more appropriate for smaller people
Ima build a powerful powerchair. My chair weighs in at 459 pounds. So I thought I would use motorcycle 🏍 hubs. Eight thousand watt Switched 1 thru 10..ten would roll at 80mph And if I use a bugger tire will bog the motor down A bit
Not true Dude ! larger tires & wheels travel more ground faster .. I get 10-12 MPH .. and before it was 5-7 .. My torque never dropped pulls ramps very well ..
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 I have a real nice hover round and a jazzy the hoveround is slick smooth and so was the other one but I would certainly like to put bigger tires on those
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 I used to gear up or gear down motorcycle sprockets and or belt pulleys when building things bigger Wheels bigger gear basically it works the opposite if you have a motor rubbing on the wheel you got to be a mechanic to do this stuff amen
i'm looking to put snowblower tires on the back of my rascal to give it a little wider stance and more off road capabilities. i'm going to try using the front forks and wheel from an 8" kids bicycle in the front fork head tube to give it a bigger front wheel if it is close enough to make it work. you might try something like that if you haven't upgraded by now.
Nice! Now you NEED to modify the fork to take a bigger tire lol
I prob will , Just want to be sure I like it first . Thanks Ron !
It works but you will have less acceleration/torque
Just lengthen the front forks buy bolting a longer piece of metal on each side of the forks and use the same tire?
That is an idea , I will prob do something with the front at some point ! Thanks Buddy ..
Have done it. Got collar from ebay. Works great. Thanks Shawn.
yes it dose , thanks !
We can name that scooter Thunder Bolt
Thanks Lloyd . It's faster by quite a bit !
Chopper extension man,
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Nice mod Shawn. Thumbs up. I look forward to the front end mods.
Thanks , Not sure what I might do yet !
Lol, you have the dragster rake on it now! You wear a helmet when running the race scooter, lol?
LOL.. Thanks Everett ! I will be doing a mod on the front soon . it's faster than it was by far , But I think I will leave the helmet @ home ..
The motor will experience more drag with the larger diameter. It will go faster when there's a small load but it will not have as much acceleration. You will experience slower speeds uphill just like before.
NOPE , It works way better in any condition ! Best upgrade I have done so far..
Did you loose torque?? Or up hill power?
No it is just the same . Only ground speed is way faster ! Thanks..
Lol I just got a bit of wire for cruise control
Hey what ever works man .. Thanks for stopping by !
fortress mobility scooter far and way best no need to screw with it re speed or distance mine has 300lb capacity 7 hrs run time
mine is 6 hours and i just wanted some speed at times , thanks
My friend modified one of these for me to garden with but… he chopped it down so I sit on the floor, I can get close enough to the ground to garden now. I wore two motors out and now have to figure out how to replace the motor and shorten the front control arm. Any chance you could show this process in a video?
I don't have another one to do the those type of mods on or I sure would for you .. Thanks !
not to rain on your parade but I took you speed control . by cutting the bottom of a used & upcycled k-cup I added cruise control to my Afikim C4 & due to slip the otherday on my ride I discovered my C4 has a throttle engaged on start beep code.I had speed c. engaged & accidentally turned off power with C.C. still on so C4 wouldn't start till I turned it off. I love my C4 hope to get a S4 some day. thanks for ideas. I am turning my ol Pride Rally 3 wheeler into 4 wheel total custom will be going to 26" bicycle wheels & tires maybe using sets of 2 per hub to have plenty of weight capacity . body will look like a micro mini 1922 Ford TT C Cab panel delivery truck. wish me luck I'll be watching to see what you have next. really looking forward to your retreading tires that you talked about on here
Those woodruff keys are a pain in the balls!
i've done this with a hub motor, i used a bigger wheel, it certainly works, cost more battery tho, and if you can make the mobility scooter blind to speed, then it will be faster too.
It'll go faster, but you lose torque, so harder to climb hills, carry heavy passengers, and slower to accelerate. If it is too much of a gearing change it could strain the motor, potentially even burn it up.
Interesting experiment, youtube.
If u measure circumference of tyre and same on new ones .the difference in inches is how much more per turn of the wheel
yup..
13 like nice sharing my dear friend
instant thought, bend the fork out a few degrees, bend the upper fork out and bend the lower fork back have an inverted L. my bad, my ascii characters are limited to ½ and ¼
Like the cruise control. Have a GoGo Elite. Going to give it a try. Cheers from OAP England.
Scooters are usually pretty slow. How much faster did you make it? 2X? 3X?
It goes 10-12 MPH now . Before it was 5-7 ! Same torch , Just made it faster ! thanks ..
That thing got a hemi??? LOL 😂😂
It goes pretty good .. I love it , Steers on a dime to
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 did you see the people that put gas engines on mobility scooters? Some go over 100 mph!!
@@rikijett310 I built one years ago . I still have it , Build is on my channel ! I need to finish it up but it goes 30-40 ..
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 did you use something like a Briggs engine? The really fast ones that I've seen seem to be go karts with the seat and tiller from a mobility scooter on. Then a motorcycle engine driving it.
@@rikijett310 oh no.. nothing that crazy, mine was all scooter with a 2 stroke
Could you tell me the hub size for the mod, and perhaps the part number? Thanks.
Wish I could help you out more . Here is what I know .. Every model and maker has a different size hub . I have 2 Of these scooters different years same model, with different hub and bolt pattern sizes .. You will have to measure your lug bolts and the axle and order what your scooter needs . It makes a speed difference you will not even believe till you do the mod .. Be careful , With a fresh charge on the battery pack it can get away from ya .. God Bless & Happy Easter !!
Hi,, where did you find the taller wheel?
I found them on Ebay ! Thanks ..
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 Thanks, I don't see any there. but I might have an idea for some
@@GDMHificationranpitc be sure to get the hubs as well as the wheels . The hub bolts on first with a nut . Then the wheels bolt on the hub . Thanks !!
JUST CAME ACROSS YOUR UPGRADE. I'M DOING THE SAME WITH MINE. GOT THE BIGGER WHEELS FROM SOMEONE TOSSING THEM OUT. LOOKING FOR THE HUBS. WHAT'S THE DIAM AND WHERE YOU GET THEM?
they make a few sizes of axles , Mine was 19mm . But the other scooter I have is 1 inch . I bought the hubs on Ebay . Make sure the lug bolt pattern is right as well . It helps to know what brand and model the wheels came from .. Thanks !!
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 HEY, THANKS. TIME TO HUNT FOR THE EBAY HUBS.
BY THE WAY ON THE FRONT WHEEL. I WAS LOOKING AT PUTTING A BIG FAT LAWNMOWER SWIVEL WHEEL ON IT.
@@pinkladybikermamma3603 I did do a bit bigger wheel , I will do an update on it sometime ! Thanks..
You didn't mention if your the Scooter goes any faster? I'm wanting to do the same thing. Thanks.
much faster.. but same torque , thanks
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 That's interesting. You just don't hear alot of people talking about this. What was the gain, 1 or 2 miles per hour?
@@michaelmayra3225 I went from 4 -9 MPH With a garmin GPS
Of course it will make it go faster a wheel or a gear, is a continuous continuous lever.
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 when you gain speed you always lose torque but if you have enough torque it usually don't show up on these little electric scooters that bad it's just like in the motorcycle industry you got to know what size sprocket . Its a it's a mathematical formula.
As, on anything including automobiles the size of the tire can literally change your overall ratio
Pretty slick Shawn.
Thanks George . It get's me around when I hurt !
sell me the civic!
No way , that's a keeper ! Thanks man..
I use a rubber band as cruise control
that ok till you need to stop quickly , But if it works for you than cool ! Thanks ..
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 i flick it off with my thumb 👍
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 or press the other side
Battery will.drain faster and u will have less torque getting to the pavement
NOPE.. Battery seems to last the same I have a meter on the dash to keep track .. Pulls any ramp I want to climb And goes WAY faster ! Had many say the same .. Just depends on how big you go on the tire size .. Mine is PERFECT !!
As a person that has a 4-wheel version of this type of scooter, I like these ideas. I might have to look for some simulr things for my own scooter. I just do not have the funds to do some of these changes howeer. I have already made a 'holder tree" for things I have added to my scooter (Cell phone holder, tblet holdcer, head light, better horn, a bigger basket, and back-up camera) I wish I could upload a pic of my tree.
Send your picture to shawnmrfixit@hotmail.com
Thanks man !! Sounds like you have a nice ride ..
I also have a 4 wheeler (pulled-from-the side-of-the-road) that I'm dying to find the time to mess with starting by adding taller wheels/tires and changing to a more ergonomically and lightweight seat if I have to build one myself.
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How longer does it take to stop with those larger wheels?
never seemed to change the stopping ability . Stops the same as before ! Thanks ..
Have you a video on how you modified your scooter, as I take it you increased the speed by fitting two larger rear wheels.🤔👍
it increases speed quick, sets ya back as it does .. there are other vids I have posted ..
your motor was not designed for that kind of rotation and stress, result, you will burn out your motor my friend!
I have put many miles on it with no issues , so your wrong !
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 I AM NOT WRONG....TIME WILL TELL
The standard wheel size is in case the rider is 400+lbs obese, and capable of taking such people up small hills.
The motor may overheat and need to cool down after a long day, but I doubt the battery would last that long.
No overvolting and ruining coils. No 'burnout'.
If anything the bigger wheels are more appropriate for smaller people
@howardkahn4330 the rotation of the motor stays the same.
Ima build a powerful powerchair.
My chair weighs in at 459 pounds.
So I thought I would use motorcycle 🏍 hubs.
Eight thousand watt
Switched 1 thru 10..ten would roll at 80mph
And if I use a bugger tire will bog the motor down A bit
bigger dia tires will give you more torque, but lower your top speed dude.......
Not true Dude ! larger tires & wheels travel more ground faster .. I get 10-12 MPH .. and before it was 5-7 .. My torque never dropped pulls ramps very well ..
Wrong.its the other way around.. only he's not going to lose that much torque.
@@ronald5629 Best mod I have done to date .. Had many ask about it when I take it out to stores and in public places .. Thanks !
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 I have a real nice hover round and a jazzy the hoveround is slick smooth and so was the other one but I would certainly like to put bigger tires on those
@@shawnmrfixitlee6478 I used to gear up or gear down motorcycle sprockets and or belt pulleys when building things bigger Wheels bigger gear basically it works the opposite if you have a motor rubbing on the wheel you got to be a mechanic to do this stuff amen