I'm an INFP and I am actually an engineer in robotics which is suprising to a lot of people. I can use logic just fine, it is just that I don't revolve my entire life around logic. I base life around my feelings and emotions, logic is just a tool to me which I only use when it is useful to use it (more presicely when my Fi decides that it is useful to use logic).
My INFP brother is a very successful aeronautical engineer. In his personal life, he's empathetic and thoughtful. He also loves to give me and our youngest brother advice, which I usually listen to.
I’m an INFP and a civil engineer. I had so often read that Engineering was a bad fit for my type, but I think that’s only true if work is the most important thing for you. I use my logic at work and then I can save my social, emotional, and artistic energies for my friends and family.
The main reason INFPs divulge from conceived conventions is due to their value system. It is indeed true that you cannot use mbti to simply describe the entirety of a person but in my opinion INFPs are the most out of the box due to the diversity of values put together by the Fi. Meaning that you might encounter an INFP who feels like an ESTJ solely because he values order above all else or an INFP that seems like an INTP because they regard logic and intelligence as part of their identity.
I am an INFP and I often drive my ENFP mam crazy by being too sceptical. I often ask, " where is the evidence?" I want to believe many things that she just accepts as truths just because they sound very soothing, but my brain won't accept it, because there is no proof 😐
“They tend to feel the pain of the world much more strongly than most” Ain’t that the truth! I can barely sleep anymore with everything going on, thinking not only about how things are now but where these events seem to be leading to 😣 (No, this is not an invitation to start an argument)
I’m an INFP but I really… am not overly competent when it comes to reading people. Probably because of autism and the double empathy problem. But… the people reading side of (some) INFPs is not something I can relate to that much.
A very important difference between the INFJ and INFP, which you touched on here Nathan, is weather or not you have strong opinions and want to spread them (Jesus, Hitler, Plato) or you have strong opinions and dislike forcing those ideas on others(Kierkegaard, Keanu reeves, Tim Burton).
Both INFJ and INFP are feelers, but they are different kinds of feelers. INFP has introvereted feeling (Fi) as their primary function, while INFJ has extraverted feeling (Fe) as their secondary function. Your comment is a good summary of Fi vs. Fe.
Loool, solving problems, especially not repeatable problems, is a core of definition of extraverted intuition Ne. Seriously, who are the people, who think this way about INFPs?
#2 hits home I only so far had only one friend who noticed and asked me why I almost always don't finish my sentences or thoughts. She probably think's I got ADHD but truth is, I just don't think anyone cares to listen.
When I was growing up, I’d do that a lot. I’d start saying something and then never finish. Because I realized that nobody was listening to me anyways.
As an INFP, who's studying electrical engineering and biomedical engineering, has always been good in maths and analytical subjects, is a really good problem solver (far superior to my older INTJ brother who's technically speaking better in maths) and knows every single detail of the world around me (and constantly gets surprised how people didn't notice a lot of things), this is definitely more than 100% accurate. I might add, that Fi is quite special in one certain way, as it only values certain things and completely ignores others. That means, whenever Fi doesn't apply, it basically encourages the other functions to step up instead. And this again turns the Fi-Ne-Si-Te stack into a stack dominated by perceiving functions and with Te alone as decision-making. So, either we tend to be in a quite pure Fi state, or in a highly observant and problem-solving Ne-Si-Te state.
This is a fantastic description, you explained it very well. I've also always been great at math, and I'm pursuing a doctorate in psychology. My Fi is highly ingrained in this goal because I want to help people the way my passion for psychology has helped me. However, that's definitely not the only part of it. I LIVE for the in-depth analysis of how the mind works and the practical application of these observations. I believe I'm a good problem solver too. I've never really had much trouble understanding the curriculum in classes, though I do sometimes struggle to figure out how to organize my thoughts into the required format for assignments. But I think I'm fairly competent at the critical thinking required to problem-solve. I can see the connections between seemingly unrelated points of data, as well as how to shape that information into a coherent solution in reality. I can figure out what will get the desired results and what won't, and I can see what is and isn't relevant to the task at hand. Your concept could also look like having that hyper-observant, logical side at the forefront when Fi doesn't directly apply, but having it all painted in an Fi-tinted context. So I'll be in this Ne-Si-Te mode in order to follow what I value long-term. It's kind of funny, I also have an INTJ older brother. I think he's too rigid and closed-minded to be a super effective problem solver (obviously, this is specifically my brother. This isn't directed to all INTJs). If the problem is purely intellectual, he's excellent at it. But he's at a major disadvantage when it's a mostly practical (sensory) problem or when it involves working with other people. He's so attached to his own existing views and so unwilling to compromise and find a solution that works for everyone. To truly solve problems effectively, you need to consider others' perspectives and angles, and you need to be willing to gather new practical data so you won't be surprised by logistical issues that you didn't think about.
@@lailanitukuafu absolutely. Adding to the INTJ brothers, one issue i noticed with mine, and my INFJ mom is, that Ni simply doesn't care about solving "random" problems which doesn't really affect them. While i'm basically enjoying confronting any problem, even if it doesn't help me make "progress", and taking it as a chance to learn something. I think that's a xxxP in general, but we realise that if you want to be prepared for "anything", you just have to accept doing "anything" that's crossing your path. Like, i don't mind doing smaller side tasks, because if you're too selective, you'll only learn stuff fitting into that filter, and nothing else. And Ni and Si are pretty specialized in what they bother doing, thus being good at that, but only that. And the best thing is, the more different problems you tackle, the easier it gets to solve completely new ones. And many problems are really easy to solve when you know how, thus, imho, paying you back the many times you "wasted" on unnecessary things.
Which is why it's very easy for others, and for MBTI tests, to mistype us as INTPs, I guess? What scared some people is how coldly and stoutly rational we may be, where T is the most needed function. I think it's not we are INTPs, but that we put the Fi on stand-by. I have this trait, to be bothered by inconsistencies and contradictions in what people say or argue, and it's typically listed as an INTP-only trait. I still believe that I am an INFP.
@@ikarugaxx3749 i mistyped as INTx before i dove deeper into MBTI... it's just funny the moment you realise that you always have been X (INFP in my case) and your behaviour from even years ago just "prooves" it. Ironically, mistyping goes in both directions with INFP, as we might tend to think of us as thinkers, while also many think they are INFPs even though they simply aren't. INFP is imo the most misunderstood type, and many people think they are INFPs because they are so deeply emotional, while they are really just xxFJs talking 24/7 about their emotions even though blatantly far from the depth of an IxFP... (it's not meant negatively, just as a pure observation of mine)
I think a lot of people get the "oblivious to reality" wrong. Reality here only refers to the sensory input from our immediate surrounding - sounds, activities, taking place right next to us. INFPs and INTPs can get so focused on our mental activity that we stop paying attention to our immediate physical surrounding. On the outside it looks like we zoned out or we're daydreaming and "lost touch with reality", but it's just the immediate sensory input, not reality at large. I may as well be thinking about world affairs or ideas for my project.
Grateful for your posting! Had an ENTJ mother who never accepted me. She only tried to change me. And I'm an INFP with strong INTP leanings, and an engineering background! She probably would have disowned me if I'd been a poet. It takes all of us to make up this world. "...if a clod be washed away by the sea, Mother Europe is the less..."
@@julieolson1402 aww man this kinda hurts me. The best thing I can tell you is to understand your mom. Our parents didn’t have all the resources we do. When I got into personality a few years ago I realized so many positives about myself but also the negatives and being harsh with people was one of them. I use to throw things at my mom from the past and realized what an a** I was being and realized she didn’t have a great childhood. Understanding myself has helped my relationship with both daughter and my mom but it’s not easy 🥲 …my daughter is super smart but so lazy too 🤣 Also try and understand that if we’re(entjs) harsh is because we want the best for our kids and believe it or not it’s out of love. When we don’t care about a person we don’t even waist our breath
Regarding being lost in our own worlds, I half agree with you. I think INFPs tend to concern themselves with different aspects of life than others do, something more introspective, which provides them unique insights; however, this means they are indeed oblivious to many parts of life that others find obvious.
Yep. This is a conversation I had with one of my coworkers (for context I’m a graphic designer and I was editing a picture): Coworker: “You’re going to fix that traffic light right?” Me: “What’s wrong with it?” Coworker: *Looks at me like I’ve got two heads. “It’s upside down. It’s always red, yellow, green. You’ve got it green, yellow, red.” Me: “Ohhhh yeah! I thought something was off but couldn’t put my finger on it. 😅” Coworker: 🤦♀️
As an INFP, I think I’m ahead of others in some ways whilst others are waaay ahead of me invorder way. I feel like I’ve already done more introspection than many people will do in their lifetime. My inner worlds… I’m not lost in them. They define me. Alongside the few close people in my life, they are what drive me forward and give life purpose. There’s a lot of creativity in wisdom to be found there. I am lost in how to manifest the inner worlds into something external. And alongside that, I am as blind as I am perceptive to the outside world. A lot of things in the outside/sensing world just aren’t overly deep/interesting/worthwhile to me. I think a lot of mainstream things just go by me because I simply don’t give a fck. Perhaps seems a bit blunt, coming from an INFP, but in such case, I just couldn’t care less. It’s part of that sense of individualism that’s not meant to be antagonising, yet it is inherently rebellious and anti-establishment.
As a 23 year old infp, I feel I have become better at the “staying present in the physical world” part, something people always associate infps to be bad at, and while it is true that I used to stay in my head in my teenage years mostly, now I know how to navigate myself in the real, physical world. I think with years, infps become more mature and become better at their weaknesses; atleast that’s what I’ve heard from most older infps. Another common misconception being that we are procrastinators who can’t get anything done and can’t hold a regular job successfully- it makes me happy to see people in the comments with analytical jobs like engineers and me being a med student, I can definitely say from experience that we are capable of working hard towards things that mean something to us. It may not be the easiest thing, but we can get there!
It's not a misconception, a lot of INFPs have problems getting things done and tend to procrastinate. INFPs work from the heart, so we can be very hard workers when our heart is in it, but forcing ourselves to do things just because it should be done sure is almost insurmountably difficult to many INFPs. It may also depend on where you are on the spectrum. My F/T is very balanced, but I'm an extreme INP, so my head is my natural habitat, and it's hard for me to tolerate any limitation on my freedom, so you can see where the "misconception" comes from. And BTW there's nothing wrong with my head being my natural habitat. I prefer thinking to acting in the external physical world, I much prefer ideas to tangible objects. The "real world" isn't just the external reality. The inner world isn't just a footnote in my story, it's who I am.
No.2 reminds me, I love when it comes solving the problem with lack of baking/cooking ingredients by using substitutions. No milk? Use powdered milk+water with some ratio. Meat too expensive? Just use cheap sausages or tofu. Of course there are some limits, but at least this helps me training the Ne function forever.
I an INFP 6w5 and a problem solver. Yea people won't hear us out and they want temporary solutions. They don't want to work as a group and make the sacrifices so wee keep silent
Thank You! I'm an infp, and people so often think that we're completely out of touch and fluttering helplessly around logical problems, we just feel strength in our decisions, we are driven by our passions it doesn't mean we're illogical and can't problem solve, it means we are sometimes incredibly driven, motivated, and unshakeable in what we believe. We want to work towards and fight for what we know in our hearts to be right. The world would be a kinder place if more people saw that as a strength rather than an impairment
Thanks for this. INFP here and I used to teach and now I tutor writing and speech. I keep reminding my former students back then and my tutees now not to skip points B, C, and D if they wish to point out point E starting from point A. When it comes to solving problems, it's more like we sometimes tend to be awkward with how we explain our solutions to others which is why we end up not giving the solution and let others find out for themselves. At other times it's because we believe the people we are with can think for themselves and come up with a solution which we believe might be even more efficient than the one we think of (Ne kicking in).
INFP here, and I deeply love logic puzzles and navigating / learning about philosophies that involve logic. But when it comes down to it, if given the choice between the logical cold calculation for a decision or going with my heart if morality/mercy/justice are involved, I will opt for the latter (I’m the lone juror in 12 Angry Men who votes “not guilty” not necessarily because I’m overwhelmed by facts but because I “feel” we owe it to the defendant to talk things out a bit more). Even then, though, there are times I cannot argue with the logic or pragmatism of a choice and will go (kicking and screaming on the inside) with that sensible option. I also really admire logic in people who excel in it (like, an INTJ, say) and envy their ability to effortlessly and quickly formulate thoughts, plans, and conclusions, so I might enjoy reading an author for whom this is true and kind of bathe in their brain as a source of enjoyment and stimulation. And then there’s Ne always tugging at me to make snap decisions with little thought that end up having unforeseen consequences, and yet I continue to indulge it because it’s either fun or I don’t want to strain myself thinking something through and lazily go with quick answers or choices.
Who said INFP isn't a good problem solver, I'm probably one of the best problem solver in my area lol, maybe simply because I consider everything, maybe things that I don't even need to consider 💀 (a.k.a. overthinking)
“They know exactly where they are and why they are there” That is very accurate, When I intentionally go to my happy place lol it helps ground me in the present, but it’s not like I’m not aware (for the most part) I also like problem solving I find it really mentally stimulating, most of the time lol
Thanks, man. Whenever I stumble upon a non-INFP who understands INFPs (and respects us), I am surprised. Like, how can someone understand us and what our existence in this world is like, without being one of us? It's so rare, it comes as a big surprise every time. And well... basically, the more "aware" and "immersed" into what's going on I am, the more my S will get switched off, and everyone around me will view me as a mostly drowsy, absent, dullard :). I smile here by the emoticon, but in real life it's rarely something that induces cheer in me. I wish I could change that, have my S more awake but I have never been able to. And I feel... so unpleasantly extroverted when, 10 mins a year, it happens.
I’m an INFP who was raised by wolves (Te-doms), and it made its mark!! Logic and pragmatism made their way into my values, as in, “If it sounds nice, feels good, but backfires in practice, don’t do that and don’t manipulate people’s feelings to try to make them do it!”
@@michaeliacangelo9423 Yep. But we do also know there are good wolves and bad wolves. 😉 Overall my parents are pretty decent, and if the shit really hits the fan, they are two people you want in your corner.
Thank you. Spot on. I like your way of analyzing mbti types. Way more accurate. True, I don't like what I see nor how this world is like so I create ideas of a better world in my mind but it's more like a comfy blanket or bedtime story to soothe myself so to speak. I don't remain there. I just go there for the occasional comfort I need. Yes, even if I know or can brainstorm the solutions for a problem I won't speak up cos I feel that other people are more practical or extroverted than me so I'd rather let them do the talking. If there's an enfp or entp in the room I'd gladly let them verbally brainstorm the ideas. I'm not one to voice out what I'm thinking or feeling that often unless there's no choice. People often think that infps are incapable of using logic. Infps can actually use both logic and emotions. Surprise surprise! I use logic at work, in the academics and when I have to, but my decision-making, my relationships etc are mainly emotion-based or more accurately, values-driven. So I really hate how stereotypes paint all infps as people who are completely illogical. The fact is, mature or healthier Infp can be pretty logical with their emotions too.
People come to me when they have problems…personal, emotional promblems…if you need someone to fix “dead things” for you í can find someone to do that for you😂😉
Bad problem solvers..ah. So whats the problem then? I often feel like my way of problem solving is findig the glitches. My goal is to really understand the game, not succeeding in the usual play-through. A little bit like Ed Harris' charakter in "Westworld"
We are illogical in the abstract and compatibility sense related to thoughts when we see different patterns and differents ways to approach things. Sometimes people get confused or triggered by it if we get personal and observe faults. The answers we have are intuitive often, seeing, knowing and rearranging things. On the other hand I hate and get confused by tangibly calculated logic applied in science and math which are just numbers and formulas people came up with making equally no sense. As for the worlds, that is a filter, analysis and comfort at the same time.
The PDB calls Martin Molin INFP. And he's a self-taught engineer. (You know, the guy who leads the band Wintergatan. And who designed the "marble machine.")
Was questioni g my infp'ness when more than a few mbt giru's treated infp need hand holding/ support duevto ther detachment through living inimagination. This more accurately describes me
Not really, we’re really mostly talking about the primary and secondary functions here. Valuing logical thinking can be part of Fi, and expansive, intuitive, thinking directed towards problem solving is very much core to the second function.
yes and no. On the one side, those misconceptions are definitely tied to people ignoring too much an INFPs 2nd to 4th function, but at the same time, a lot of INFPs are quite inclined with their lower functions, much more than other types. We are simply aware that we need our Te to cover us up while we keep our Fi to ourselves. Whereas for an INxJ or ExTJ for example it's easy to "not give a fuck" about their Se or Fi respectively, we INFPs get too butthurt if we let our Fi take up everything on it's own. Basically, by knowing when to take up something through Ne-Si-Te, we're doing ourselves and our Fi a favour, which then leads to us being more in line with our other functions. Oh and, another thing, Fi values deeply any part about "ourselves", which simply also includes the other functions. Am i saying Fi is the best function? Definitely not. But as every function has their strengths, Fi has the strength to tap into the other functions at a decent proficiency. And Fi being "useless" in the real world makes it that much more common to need to tap into other functions when interacting with the world And yes, all of that should apply just as much to ISFPs (in respect to Se and Ni) too. *TLDR* : IxFPs are extremely inclined with their inner selves, which includes _all_ our functions, making us generally speaking decently proficient with all our functions, especially compared to other types who have less necessity to tap into less functions.
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Erm, you say we are sinful by nature. That's how God created us, yet he won't tolerate us as we are and he wants us to ask him for forgiveness. But why? He's the one who made us, why then should we be sorry for that? Sounds pretty manipulative. Annnd he wants us to be perfect and we will never be enough for him. That doesn't sound like a healthy relationship, more like abuse
@@Nashleyism Hey! Sorry I didn’t make that very clear. God made us perfect without any faults and with the ability to love and live side by side with Him. But He also made us with the ability to choose that life…Adam and Eve could have chosen to live a beautiful perfect life…but they chose to do the one thing God asked them not too. They Decided that they knew better than God. And because of their choice we live in a world where we all get to do what we want…which is sin against God. But God in His mercy provided a way out…if people again choose to want life. Hope this helps😊
@@elsagilmartin6251 So having freedom is a sin? According to what you say, God punished whole humanity for the choice made by two people and now he offers a way out of the punishment. Does that sound like mercy to you?
@@Nashleyism As far as I’m concerned whenever we break any of God’s rules it only hurts the people around us and ourselves…when we lie we hurt others…when we cheat we hurt others. I wouldn’t say we are being punished for freedom…but we use our freedom to hurt ourselves and others…which is sin. I recommend you read the first chapter of Genesis in the Bible…after Adam and Eve sinned, God have them an opportunity to confess and repent…but instead they chose to deny their sin and put the blame on others. Which part of the blame does belong to Satan but if man had have humbled himself and admitted sin God would have forgiven…but he chose not too I do call it Mercy…we have to remember who we are…the creature…not the Creator. God doesn’t owe us anything…but He still doesn’t want us to perish…He wants us to have eternal life…if we choose to have it
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I'm an INFP and I am actually an engineer in robotics which is suprising to a lot of people. I can use logic just fine, it is just that I don't revolve my entire life around logic. I base life around my feelings and emotions, logic is just a tool to me which I only use when it is useful to use it (more presicely when my Fi decides that it is useful to use logic).
My INFP brother is a very successful aeronautical engineer. In his personal life, he's empathetic and thoughtful. He also loves to give me and our youngest brother advice, which I usually listen to.
As a computer engineer, I couldn’t agree more🎉
I’m an INFP and a civil engineer. I had so often read that Engineering was a bad fit for my type, but I think that’s only true if work is the most important thing for you. I use my logic at work and then I can save my social, emotional, and artistic energies for my friends and family.
Ahh, thank you for this. This is exactly it 👏
Yep, I’m an internal auditor which people think would be an XSTJs Only job, but I can still use the same functions.
The main reason INFPs divulge from conceived conventions is due to their value system. It is indeed true that you cannot use mbti to simply describe the entirety of a person but in my opinion INFPs are the most out of the box due to the diversity of values put together by the Fi. Meaning that you might encounter an INFP who feels like an ESTJ solely because he values order above all else or an INFP that seems like an INTP because they regard logic and intelligence as part of their identity.
I am an INFP and I often drive my ENFP mam crazy by being too sceptical. I often ask, " where is the evidence?"
I want to believe many things that she just accepts as truths just because they sound very soothing, but my brain won't accept it, because there is no proof 😐
“They tend to feel the pain of the world much more strongly than most” Ain’t that the truth! I can barely sleep anymore with everything going on, thinking not only about how things are now but where these events seem to be leading to 😣
(No, this is not an invitation to start an argument)
INTJ with a close friend who is INFP - they're actually more intuitive than me sometimes when it comes to *reading people* and their deeper intentions
Well, few people are as... not-so-intuitive as INTJs when it comes to reading emotions.
I hope you take this comment, made with a smile, easy.
@ikarugaxx3749 no totally... it's difficult to read people's purely emotion-driven behaviors or intentions. Rarely am I able to understand
my fiancee is an intj and its the same way here! They teach me how to think logically and I teach them intuition most of the time :>
I’m an INFP but I really… am not overly competent when it comes to reading people. Probably because of autism and the double empathy problem. But… the people reading side of (some) INFPs is not something I can relate to that much.
A very important difference between the INFJ and INFP, which you touched on here Nathan, is weather or not you have strong opinions and want to spread them (Jesus, Hitler, Plato) or you have strong opinions and dislike forcing those ideas on others(Kierkegaard, Keanu reeves, Tim Burton).
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Both INFJ and INFP are feelers, but they are different kinds of feelers. INFP has introvereted feeling (Fi) as their primary function, while INFJ has extraverted feeling (Fe) as their secondary function. Your comment is a good summary of Fi vs. Fe.
Um...🤔 I want ppl to be Christian and post about it on my socials. That's pretty much it. But I dont push my political views. What would that be?
@@infernal.. I don’t think this is enough information to infer someone’s type. We can talk more if you’d like though
Great point. Why INFPs aren't made for businesses and politics. Well at least dishonest businesses and toxic politics.
Loool, solving problems, especially not repeatable problems, is a core of definition of extraverted intuition Ne. Seriously, who are the people, who think this way about INFPs?
#2 hits home
I only so far had only one friend who noticed and asked me why I almost always don't finish my sentences or thoughts. She probably think's I got ADHD but truth is, I just don't think anyone cares to listen.
When I was growing up, I’d do that a lot. I’d start saying something and then never finish. Because I realized that nobody was listening to me anyways.
As an INFP, who's studying electrical engineering and biomedical engineering, has always been good in maths and analytical subjects, is a really good problem solver (far superior to my older INTJ brother who's technically speaking better in maths) and knows every single detail of the world around me (and constantly gets surprised how people didn't notice a lot of things), this is definitely more than 100% accurate.
I might add, that Fi is quite special in one certain way, as it only values certain things and completely ignores others. That means, whenever Fi doesn't apply, it basically encourages the other functions to step up instead. And this again turns the Fi-Ne-Si-Te stack into a stack dominated by perceiving functions and with Te alone as decision-making.
So, either we tend to be in a quite pure Fi state, or in a highly observant and problem-solving Ne-Si-Te state.
This is a fantastic description, you explained it very well. I've also always been great at math, and I'm pursuing a doctorate in psychology. My Fi is highly ingrained in this goal because I want to help people the way my passion for psychology has helped me. However, that's definitely not the only part of it. I LIVE for the in-depth analysis of how the mind works and the practical application of these observations.
I believe I'm a good problem solver too. I've never really had much trouble understanding the curriculum in classes, though I do sometimes struggle to figure out how to organize my thoughts into the required format for assignments. But I think I'm fairly competent at the critical thinking required to problem-solve. I can see the connections between seemingly unrelated points of data, as well as how to shape that information into a coherent solution in reality. I can figure out what will get the desired results and what won't, and I can see what is and isn't relevant to the task at hand. Your concept could also look like having that hyper-observant, logical side at the forefront when Fi doesn't directly apply, but having it all painted in an Fi-tinted context. So I'll be in this Ne-Si-Te mode in order to follow what I value long-term.
It's kind of funny, I also have an INTJ older brother. I think he's too rigid and closed-minded to be a super effective problem solver (obviously, this is specifically my brother. This isn't directed to all INTJs). If the problem is purely intellectual, he's excellent at it. But he's at a major disadvantage when it's a mostly practical (sensory) problem or when it involves working with other people. He's so attached to his own existing views and so unwilling to compromise and find a solution that works for everyone. To truly solve problems effectively, you need to consider others' perspectives and angles, and you need to be willing to gather new practical data so you won't be surprised by logistical issues that you didn't think about.
@@lailanitukuafu absolutely.
Adding to the INTJ brothers, one issue i noticed with mine, and my INFJ mom is, that Ni simply doesn't care about solving "random" problems which doesn't really affect them. While i'm basically enjoying confronting any problem, even if it doesn't help me make "progress", and taking it as a chance to learn something. I think that's a xxxP in general, but we realise that if you want to be prepared for "anything", you just have to accept doing "anything" that's crossing your path. Like, i don't mind doing smaller side tasks, because if you're too selective, you'll only learn stuff fitting into that filter, and nothing else. And Ni and Si are pretty specialized in what they bother doing, thus being good at that, but only that. And the best thing is, the more different problems you tackle, the easier it gets to solve completely new ones. And many problems are really easy to solve when you know how, thus, imho, paying you back the many times you "wasted" on unnecessary things.
Well said. Great observation.
Which is why it's very easy for others, and for MBTI tests, to mistype us as INTPs, I guess?
What scared some people is how coldly and stoutly rational we may be, where T is the most needed function.
I think it's not we are INTPs, but that we put the Fi on stand-by.
I have this trait, to be bothered by inconsistencies and contradictions in what people say or argue, and it's typically listed as an INTP-only trait. I still believe that I am an INFP.
@@ikarugaxx3749 i mistyped as INTx before i dove deeper into MBTI... it's just funny the moment you realise that you always have been X (INFP in my case) and your behaviour from even years ago just "prooves" it.
Ironically, mistyping goes in both directions with INFP, as we might tend to think of us as thinkers, while also many think they are INFPs even though they simply aren't. INFP is imo the most misunderstood type, and many people think they are INFPs because they are so deeply emotional, while they are really just xxFJs talking 24/7 about their emotions even though blatantly far from the depth of an IxFP... (it's not meant negatively, just as a pure observation of mine)
I think a lot of people get the "oblivious to reality" wrong. Reality here only refers to the sensory input from our immediate surrounding - sounds, activities, taking place right next to us. INFPs and INTPs can get so focused on our mental activity that we stop paying attention to our immediate physical surrounding. On the outside it looks like we zoned out or we're daydreaming and "lost touch with reality", but it's just the immediate sensory input, not reality at large. I may as well be thinking about world affairs or ideas for my project.
Fi is used to determine if i want to use my Te to solve the issue when Ne failed and Si has no clue what to say :D
Yes you're right, when I dont know a subject my Ne can't understand quickly, so I have to reassemble (with Te) the concepts to create a new intuition
Nathan, i can safely say that there's no other channel which i love more than yours. Please never stop making these videos - A grateful INFP
Just an ENTJ here trying to better understand his infp daughter. Thx for these videos! I always appreciate your work
Grateful for your posting! Had an ENTJ mother who never accepted me. She only tried to change me. And I'm an INFP with strong INTP leanings, and an engineering background! She probably would have disowned me if I'd been a poet. It takes all of us to make up this world. "...if a clod be washed away by the sea, Mother Europe is the less..."
@@julieolson1402 aww man this kinda hurts me. The best thing I can tell you is to understand your mom. Our parents didn’t have all the resources we do. When I got into personality a few years ago I realized so many positives about myself but also the negatives and being harsh with people was one of them. I use to throw things at my mom from the past and realized what an a** I was being and realized she didn’t have a great childhood. Understanding myself has helped my relationship with both daughter and my mom but it’s not easy 🥲 …my daughter is super smart but so lazy too 🤣 Also try and understand that if we’re(entjs) harsh is because we want the best for our kids and believe it or not it’s out of love. When we don’t care about a person we don’t even waist our breath
That is admirable. Stay awesome.
You're precious.
Regarding being lost in our own worlds, I half agree with you. I think INFPs tend to concern themselves with different aspects of life than others do, something more introspective, which provides them unique insights; however, this means they are indeed oblivious to many parts of life that others find obvious.
Yep. This is a conversation I had with one of my coworkers (for context I’m a graphic designer and I was editing a picture):
Coworker: “You’re going to fix that traffic light right?”
Me: “What’s wrong with it?”
Coworker: *Looks at me like I’ve got two heads. “It’s upside down. It’s always red, yellow, green. You’ve got it green, yellow, red.”
Me: “Ohhhh yeah! I thought something was off but couldn’t put my finger on it. 😅”
Coworker: 🤦♀️
@@linmonPIE LOL yes, exactly! I do stuff like that all the time, too.
As an INFP, I think I’m ahead of others in some ways whilst others are waaay ahead of me invorder way. I feel like I’ve already done more introspection than many people will do in their lifetime. My inner worlds… I’m not lost in them. They define me. Alongside the few close people in my life, they are what drive me forward and give life purpose. There’s a lot of creativity in wisdom to be found there. I am lost in how to manifest the inner worlds into something external. And alongside that, I am as blind as I am perceptive to the outside world. A lot of things in the outside/sensing world just aren’t overly deep/interesting/worthwhile to me. I think a lot of mainstream things just go by me because I simply don’t give a fck. Perhaps seems a bit blunt, coming from an INFP, but in such case, I just couldn’t care less. It’s part of that sense of individualism that’s not meant to be antagonising, yet it is inherently rebellious and anti-establishment.
As a 23 year old infp, I feel I have become better at the “staying present in the physical world” part, something people always associate infps to be bad at, and while it is true that I used to stay in my head in my teenage years mostly, now I know how to navigate myself in the real, physical world. I think with years, infps become more mature and become better at their weaknesses; atleast that’s what I’ve heard from most older infps.
Another common misconception being that we are procrastinators who can’t get anything done and can’t hold a regular job successfully- it makes me happy to see people in the comments with analytical jobs like engineers and me being a med student, I can definitely say from experience that we are capable of working hard towards things that mean something to us. It may not be the easiest thing, but we can get there!
It's not a misconception, a lot of INFPs have problems getting things done and tend to procrastinate. INFPs work from the heart, so we can be very hard workers when our heart is in it, but forcing ourselves to do things just because it should be done sure is almost insurmountably difficult to many INFPs.
It may also depend on where you are on the spectrum. My F/T is very balanced, but I'm an extreme INP, so my head is my natural habitat, and it's hard for me to tolerate any limitation on my freedom, so you can see where the "misconception" comes from.
And BTW there's nothing wrong with my head being my natural habitat. I prefer thinking to acting in the external physical world, I much prefer ideas to tangible objects. The "real world" isn't just the external reality. The inner world isn't just a footnote in my story, it's who I am.
I love how this is a 2:30 video and not a 2:30 video stretched to 10 minutes
Thank you for this 😇 from an INFP 😊
Also, solving problems is a need we have. We are mediators, we want harmony and therefore, no problems 😄
Great video, as usual! Thank you! You're probably the non-INFP with the greatest insight on INFPs that i know 😊
Eric Thor is really good, too - he loves INFPs, but isn't one himself.
@@andeeanko7079 hmm yeah but he is not at all in the same league. lovewho is the best!
Finally someone who frikkin gets me! THANK YOU!
Oh, that wasn't sarcastic btw- That was genuine- 😅
I thrive on problem solving and logic, but quite often only in my head, because of inability to voice or verbalize my thoughts and opinions
No.2 reminds me, I love when it comes solving the problem with lack of baking/cooking ingredients by using substitutions. No milk? Use powdered milk+water with some ratio. Meat too expensive? Just use cheap sausages or tofu. Of course there are some limits, but at least this helps me training the Ne function forever.
I an INFP 6w5 and a problem solver. Yea people won't hear us out and they want temporary solutions. They don't want to work as a group and make the sacrifices so wee keep silent
Thank You! I'm an infp, and people so often think that we're completely out of touch and fluttering helplessly around logical problems, we just feel strength in our decisions, we are driven by our passions it doesn't mean we're illogical and can't problem solve, it means we are sometimes incredibly driven, motivated, and unshakeable in what we believe. We want to work towards and fight for what we know in our hearts to be right. The world would be a kinder place if more people saw that as a strength rather than an impairment
As an INFP, I must say that this video is spot-on! Thank you.
Realizing the thunbnail is AI art of YOU as a fairy has me shooook 😅😲
Thanks for this. INFP here and I used to teach and now I tutor writing and speech. I keep reminding my former students back then and my tutees now not to skip points B, C, and D if they wish to point out point E starting from point A. When it comes to solving problems, it's more like we sometimes tend to be awkward with how we explain our solutions to others which is why we end up not giving the solution and let others find out for themselves. At other times it's because we believe the people we are with can think for themselves and come up with a solution which we believe might be even more efficient than the one we think of (Ne kicking in).
INFP here, and I deeply love logic puzzles and navigating / learning about philosophies that involve logic. But when it comes down to it, if given the choice between the logical cold calculation for a decision or going with my heart if morality/mercy/justice are involved, I will opt for the latter (I’m the lone juror in 12 Angry Men who votes “not guilty” not necessarily because I’m overwhelmed by facts but because I “feel” we owe it to the defendant to talk things out a bit more). Even then, though, there are times I cannot argue with the logic or pragmatism of a choice and will go (kicking and screaming on the inside) with that sensible option. I also really admire logic in people who excel in it (like, an INTJ, say) and envy their ability to effortlessly and quickly formulate thoughts, plans, and conclusions, so I might enjoy reading an author for whom this is true and kind of bathe in their brain as a source of enjoyment and stimulation.
And then there’s Ne always tugging at me to make snap decisions with little thought that end up having unforeseen consequences, and yet I continue to indulge it because it’s either fun or I don’t want to strain myself thinking something through and lazily go with quick answers or choices.
Pinpoint accuracy once again, Nathan! This INFP very much appreciates your perceptive, articulate, and measured communication through your videos.
You just exposed my life strategy: creating alternative idealistic reality😂
Who said INFP isn't a good problem solver, I'm probably one of the best problem solver in my area lol, maybe simply because I consider everything, maybe things that I don't even need to consider 💀 (a.k.a. overthinking)
“They know exactly where they are and why they are there” That is very accurate, When I intentionally go to my happy place lol it helps ground me in the present, but it’s not like I’m not aware (for the most part) I also like problem solving I find it really mentally stimulating, most of the time lol
Thanks, man. Whenever I stumble upon a non-INFP who understands INFPs (and respects us), I am surprised. Like, how can someone understand us and what our existence in this world is like, without being one of us? It's so rare, it comes as a big surprise every time.
And well... basically, the more "aware" and "immersed" into what's going on I am, the more my S will get switched off, and everyone around me will view me as a mostly drowsy, absent, dullard :).
I smile here by the emoticon, but in real life it's rarely something that induces cheer in me.
I wish I could change that, have my S more awake but I have never been able to. And I feel... so unpleasantly extroverted when, 10 mins a year, it happens.
I’m an INFP who was raised by wolves (Te-doms), and it made its mark!! Logic and pragmatism made their way into my values, as in, “If it sounds nice, feels good, but backfires in practice, don’t do that and don’t manipulate people’s feelings to try to make them do it!”
Speaking of wolves, INFPs don't cry wolf when there's no wolf--we mean WOLF!
@@michaeliacangelo9423 Yep. But we do also know there are good wolves and bad wolves. 😉 Overall my parents are pretty decent, and if the shit really hits the fan, they are two people you want in your corner.
I'm a hero with this video lol. Indeed, I think Fi allows a deep understanding of the word, to the detriment of a simple and effective explanation
Wise insight, succint summary, brilliant thumbnail! 💥 Sharing!
Thank you. Spot on. I like your way of analyzing mbti types. Way more accurate. True, I don't like what I see nor how this world is like so I create ideas of a better world in my mind but it's more like a comfy blanket or bedtime story to soothe myself so to speak. I don't remain there. I just go there for the occasional comfort I need.
Yes, even if I know or can brainstorm the solutions for a problem I won't speak up cos I feel that other people are more practical or extroverted than me so I'd rather let them do the talking. If there's an enfp or entp in the room I'd gladly let them verbally brainstorm the ideas. I'm not one to voice out what I'm thinking or feeling that often unless there's no choice.
People often think that infps are incapable of using logic. Infps can actually use both logic and emotions. Surprise surprise! I use logic at work, in the academics and when I have to, but my decision-making, my relationships etc are mainly emotion-based or more accurately, values-driven. So I really hate how stereotypes paint all infps as people who are completely illogical. The fact is, mature or healthier Infp can be pretty logical with their emotions too.
omg nathan, the thumbnail is everything...
what happened to the first thumbnail???
Thank you Nathan ❤
Problem solver.. I’m’ great at! People fighting.. no problem.. bring pizza.. and bubble tea.. problem solved!
I feel SEEN.👀👀👀
People come to me when they have problems…personal, emotional promblems…if you need someone to fix “dead things” for you í can find someone to do that for you😂😉
Bad problem solvers..ah.
So whats the problem then?
I often feel like my way of problem solving is findig the glitches.
My goal is to really understand the game, not succeeding in the usual play-through.
A little bit like Ed Harris' charakter in "Westworld"
Absolutely accurate!
Thank you. Infp here.
We are illogical in the abstract and compatibility sense related to thoughts when we see different patterns and differents ways to approach things. Sometimes people get confused or triggered by it if we get personal and observe faults. The answers we have are intuitive often, seeing, knowing and rearranging things. On the other hand I hate and get confused by tangibly calculated logic applied in science and math which are just numbers and formulas people came up with making equally no sense. As for the worlds, that is a filter, analysis and comfort at the same time.
Also, people say that something is illogical when they simply don't understand it.
true, but that can be just simple misunderstanding :) @@PriHL
The PDB calls Martin Molin INFP. And he's a self-taught engineer. (You know, the guy who leads the band Wintergatan. And who designed the "marble machine.")
At last, the truth about INFP! 🙏👍
love this channel !
Exactly!
I watched some of your videos 2 3 years ago and you still do the exact same ones lmao is it even fun anymore
INFPs are the best type. Apart from us, of course.
INTJ
INTJS??!?!?! Nah I'd say intp and istp
i look up to INTJs alot and learn from them, an infp
Any other INFP get distracted and lose concentration on #3? 😅
I did repeat play that two extra times. But I do that very often--it's just what works for me.
On site dear Kristen she describes infp's as human marshmellows. Great comedy
Was questioni g my infp'ness when more than a few mbt giru's treated infp need hand holding/ support duevto ther detachment through living inimagination. This more accurately describes me
I laugh whenever I relate and here I almost cried laughing
INFP'S are excellent problem solvers. I know, it's my gift!
Yes.. this is me.
I love your voiceeeeee
early!! also yes 🙆♀️🙆♀️
Does anybody know what his personality type is?
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Sweeping statements, such as " everyone", are hard to support. A great deal of people may have misperceptions about INFPs, but certainly not everyone.
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I call them infpoops instead of infpee
I suppose this would be an INFP who has integrated their functions well.
Not really, we’re really mostly talking about the primary and secondary functions here. Valuing logical thinking can be part of Fi, and expansive, intuitive, thinking directed towards problem solving is very much core to the second function.
yes and no. On the one side, those misconceptions are definitely tied to people ignoring too much an INFPs 2nd to 4th function, but at the same time, a lot of INFPs are quite inclined with their lower functions, much more than other types. We are simply aware that we need our Te to cover us up while we keep our Fi to ourselves. Whereas for an INxJ or ExTJ for example it's easy to "not give a fuck" about their Se or Fi respectively, we INFPs get too butthurt if we let our Fi take up everything on it's own. Basically, by knowing when to take up something through Ne-Si-Te, we're doing ourselves and our Fi a favour, which then leads to us being more in line with our other functions.
Oh and, another thing, Fi values deeply any part about "ourselves", which simply also includes the other functions.
Am i saying Fi is the best function? Definitely not. But as every function has their strengths, Fi has the strength to tap into the other functions at a decent proficiency. And Fi being "useless" in the real world makes it that much more common to need to tap into other functions when interacting with the world
And yes, all of that should apply just as much to ISFPs (in respect to Se and Ni) too.
*TLDR* : IxFPs are extremely inclined with their inner selves, which includes _all_ our functions, making us generally speaking decently proficient with all our functions, especially compared to other types who have less necessity to tap into less functions.
Dear Reader,
I want you to know today that Jesus Christ loves you.
The fact is, He loves you so much that He made the ultimate sacrifice for you! You see, God is a perfect, just God who will not tolerate sinful people coming into heaven, and the problem is that we are sinful by nature. No matter how much good we do, it will never be enough to meet God's perfect standard. The good Lord knew this, and He loved us so much that He came down to earth, lived a sinless life, and died to take the sin of the world.
Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
All you have to do is ask the Lord to forgive your sin and tell Him that you accept His gift of salvation as the ONLY way to eternal life.
Please consider salvation today; you never know when your time may be up. Remember, Jesus loves you! I hope to meet you in heaven one day!
Erm, you say we are sinful by nature. That's how God created us, yet he won't tolerate us as we are and he wants us to ask him for forgiveness. But why? He's the one who made us, why then should we be sorry for that? Sounds pretty manipulative.
Annnd he wants us to be perfect and we will never be enough for him. That doesn't sound like a healthy relationship, more like abuse
@@Nashleyism it sounds like abuse because it is abuse xdd
@@Nashleyism Hey!
Sorry I didn’t make that very clear.
God made us perfect without any faults and with the ability to love and live side by side with Him. But He also made us with the ability to choose that life…Adam and Eve could have chosen to live a beautiful perfect life…but they chose to do the one thing God asked them not too. They Decided that they knew better than God. And because of their choice we live in a world where we all get to do what we want…which is sin against God. But God in His mercy provided a way out…if people again choose to want life.
Hope this helps😊
@@elsagilmartin6251 So having freedom is a sin?
According to what you say, God punished whole humanity for the choice made by two people and now he offers a way out of the punishment. Does that sound like mercy to you?
@@Nashleyism As far as I’m concerned whenever we break any of God’s rules it only hurts the people around us and ourselves…when we lie we hurt others…when we cheat we hurt others. I wouldn’t say we are being punished for freedom…but we use our freedom to hurt ourselves and others…which is sin.
I recommend you read the first chapter of Genesis in the Bible…after Adam and Eve sinned, God have them an opportunity to confess and repent…but instead they chose to deny their sin and put the blame on others. Which part of the blame does belong to Satan but if man had have humbled himself and admitted sin God would have forgiven…but he chose not too
I do call it Mercy…we have to remember who we are…the creature…not the Creator. God doesn’t owe us anything…but He still doesn’t want us to perish…He wants us to have eternal life…if we choose to have it
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