This happens when you bunch up A- Class classement riders that all can potentially win a grand tour. It does seem better when you have a clear leadership because you have a clear team structure and helpers that gonna pull for you when you need them too
You are not wrong, though I would say it is possible to assemble a team of A-Class riders and still get them to work for each other, see Quickstep every classics season.
@@hagenre8909 It was a bit difficult since Bernal was not in good form starting the vuelta. But in the end he would probably be in 4th in gc if Yates had been more supportive of him instead of doing his own race.
@@drjekyll832 classics are way different than 3 week grand tours and way different racing tactics - the big winners of the tdf for example (MAJORITY ANYWAY) have always been the clear cut leaders of their team with helpers pacing them accordingly for 3 weeks
The photo at the finish line, the fog, the headlights, the totally exhausted but victorious rider, what a great photo! Lopez can hang this on his wall to reflect this win in 20+ years time as he tells the story with a beer in hand!! Some of these still images Lanterne Rouge uses really tell much more of the story that the video images, I like it!
Highlight for me was watching David de la Cruz's pain face. Haven't seen that much agony since Davide Formolo at the Tour. Maybe it is a prerequisite for UAE domestiques - 'must be able to perform exaggerated histrionics on steep climbs'
I don't want to jinx this but credit where credit is due to Movistar if they can hold a 2-3 especially as Roglic seems to be as expected a class above everyone else to get a 2-3 is very impressive, and additionally Verona has had an excellent race
I think everyone knew meintjes was overall a better climber/gc rider than Eiking. It’s just that when Eiking was in Red, that’s a huge deal for a small team like intermarche, more important than Meintjes getting 12th instead of 14th, so meintjes should’ve been doing all he could to help Eiking stay in red, and then after he cracked raced for himself. I think we can still laugh at meintjes.
@@benfried7100 Meintjes in top 10 changes things. 6 or 7 days in red doesn't change much when it comes to sponsors geting interested. Top 10 in GC in the grand tour does.
@@RudeCorona It does. Its Money. And reputation. And You never know if the race isnt abondon for snow/floods taking the current position as the overall gc
Honestly, I’m so happy that Meintjes has found some consistent and strong form with Intermarche. With the GC hopes of the whole of Africa on his shoulders, it’s bringing me back 4-5 years to his Lampre years taking top 10s at TDF & Vuelta.
not necessarily. Roglic's faster sprint finish is the only reason he gained a few seconds on Mas, that doesn't directly correlate to having better legs for all of the last few KMs
@@elliotbain8260 I would agree normally but this wasnt 2 people sprinting max. Roglic was sprinting, Mas was just riding as fast a pace as he could. Really did seem like ROglic had more left in the tank imo.
@@elliotbain8260 respectively I disagree. Mas sat on wheels till the end with Roglic doing most of pulling and yet Roglic gaps Mas at the end. That strongly suggests Roglic put Mas right at the limit with Mas just trying to hold Roglic's wheel. If Mas had the legs to gap Roglic and hold it, he should have done so. The fact that he didn't says he didn't have the legs.
Perfect timing by Lopez - when Kuss started to pace, I thought - ok, Roglić doesn't want to counter any more attacks at the moment. Lopez probably smelled it too and off he went.
Amazing job by Lopez (good to see Movistar succeed after losing Valverde) Very brave by Bernal, both today and yesterday, but it looks like this Vuelta is in the bag for Roglic.
i am still convinced they ride this way because Valverde is out. He wouldnt allow Lopez to attack or would have (weak) attacked Roglic later. Not like Mas who did the right thing and only marked Roglic. Valverde was right there in the last years for all the blunders Movistar made. he definitley is part (imo a big part) of the reason they rode how they rode.
Felt sorry for Lopez in that after all that hard work the camera shot of him crossing the line showed just a thick mist and it was only about 5m later that you can make him out. Fully agree that he needs to be riding as number 1 in a GC tour next year without another leader competing with him. I think Mas was at his limit as evidence by Roglic accelerating away from him just before the line to take second with a time gap and also get the bonus seconds. Chapeau Bernal for his effort and proving his talent. I can see why Romain Bardet was pissed at his teammate taking his jersey but the more I see of Micheal Storer the more it's clear he is ruthless.
Im not a cyclist dunno why im watching this but when I put the exercise bike on heavy resistance I can't last long, can't imagine doing that in high altitude too jesus wept
So many wry quips from LR, I laugh at each one. I loved, “it’s not high altitude the fog will have to do.” From my very limited experience riding in Colombia, a mountain covered in cloud shrouding you with light drizzly rain is to be expected.
1:55. Ryan Gibbons African bands look really cool. No other countries have those colours so it makes it unique... and cool. Think of all the countries with red, white and blue. US, UK, Slovenia, Slovakia, Netherlands, France, Luxembourg, Norway, Russia. So uncool! But his is lime green and blue. That pretty cool.
What a joke. Giro was the weakest because the competition was the weakest. Because of the crashes in the Tour the competition in the Vuelta was the biggest.
I think Roglic gapped Mas. As interesting as it was to watch Lopez and Mas and to speculate, I found Intermarché's team to be the most unexpected team this whole Vuelta. I hope they can continue to progress and build into a stronger GC team. Kudos to Lopez for today's win. Thanks for podcast!
Curious how english channels like yours see the race and the athletes compared to some spanish twitter sector, that are hating so much against Mas. People like to "back-seat cycling" i guess...
lmaoooo If Froome pulled like the Rogla did, everybody would laugh at him and call him a cheat. Primo and others doing 6,3 watts for 30 min. Its all good. They are just talented :)
The only way Mas could have won some time is by counter attacking at say 2/3km from the top; which was not an option with MAL up the road. They did the right thing imo
What would've Valverde and Verona done today to the GC?... Absolutely nothing they would've done. Lopez got his move on Roglic, much more wasn't in the bag and Mas same thing. He didn't seem as strong as Roglic during the whole Altu d'El Gamoniteiru climb.
Now you see why playing in high altitude mountains is quite other level ... because TDF claim have high mointains but neither are long enough or high compared to this titan mountain ... some say Colombian riders can benefit form REAL high and long climbs you can easily find mountains to climb from 1000 or 2000 to 3000 mosl and longer than 20 km and this is near Lopez or Bernal home towns ... I guess most of the peloton is not interested in sufering like today's stage but as for 'show' /' ratings' you can't deny yesterday and today Colombians made cycling the must see thing on live TV. is insane what they can do, as for Rogla, maybe he can endure but how much how high can stay is true he is the best but todays test is not an A or B+ for rogla chapeau to rogla to use brains to excel on 2 of the most insane back to back stages in the last 5 years.
I think he knew he was near his limit and feared bonking if he chased Lopez who clearly had brilliant legs in that last 3km. As it was he limited Lopez lead considerably.
Hahahaha he didn't destroyed them. They only lost with López less than a minute. If López were gotten more than 2 or 3 minutes, that video title could have had sense. 😅😅🤦♂️🤦♂️
“Yates doesn’t help Bernal because Ineos are the new Movistar”. Gold.
This happens when you bunch up A- Class classement riders that all can potentially win a grand tour. It does seem better when you have a clear leadership because you have a clear team structure and helpers that gonna pull for you when you need them too
You are not wrong, though I would say it is possible to assemble a team of A-Class riders and still get them to work for each other, see Quickstep every classics season.
@@hagenre8909 Like Bahrain?!
@@hagenre8909 It was a bit difficult since Bernal was not in good form starting the vuelta. But in the end he would probably be in 4th in gc if Yates had been more supportive of him instead of doing his own race.
@@drjekyll832 classics are way different than 3 week grand tours and way different racing tactics - the big winners of the tdf for example (MAJORITY ANYWAY) have always been the clear cut leaders of their team with helpers pacing them accordingly for 3 weeks
Does anyone else hit the "like" button before the video starts rolling just because the recap is always good?
Well I wait at least 30 seconds ,😁
I've never been disappointed
Always 😉
First watch then judge. Don't be a brainless fanboy
I'm excited to see Sepp finish top 10 in a grand tour for the first time in his career! He's ridden magnificently so far.
fingers crossed that he will not lose five minutes in the final TT. ;)
He could go top 3 in a grand tour on his own eventually
@@hagenre8909 the plan was to send him to the vuelta as the captain but roglic crashed at the tour
How can you forget about his tour de beauce gc Victory?!?
he won vuelta 23
The photo at the finish line, the fog, the headlights, the totally exhausted but victorious rider, what a great photo!
Lopez can hang this on his wall to reflect this win in 20+ years time as he tells the story with a beer in hand!!
Some of these still images Lanterne Rouge uses really tell much more of the story that the video images, I like it!
The Vuelta means so much more as seen and made clear through your perspective Lanterne. Thanks for making cycling so enjoyable.
I really like this comment. Ty. I feel the same way.
Watching Jan Hirt sprint up the mountain like a madman was the highlight of today's stage.
Highlight for me was watching David de la Cruz's pain face. Haven't seen that much agony since Davide Formolo at the Tour. Maybe it is a prerequisite for UAE domestiques - 'must be able to perform exaggerated histrionics on steep climbs'
@@sldulin loll
@@sldulin that reminded me of Formolo as well. That was a really memorable moment in the Tour, along with the nuclear attack from Pog that followed
I love pain faces. There was nothing like Puritos painface when he exploded up a murito.
@@Draregkoeliekalie hope you caught the end of today’s stage, we got the creme de la creme of pain faces!
"Perfect tactics by Movistar"... how often do you hear that?
great thing...Lopez delivering makes this Vuelta being just a bit less painful after Valverde's DNF!!
"Ineos are the new Movistar" 😂
“Ineos is the new Movistar” perfectly sums up their vuelta so far
Excellent video coverage. This is a great channel for catching up on all the action each day. Thank you 🙏 Lantern Rouge.
I don't want to jinx this but credit where credit is due to Movistar if they can hold a 2-3 especially as Roglic seems to be as expected a class above everyone else to get a 2-3 is very impressive, and additionally Verona has had an excellent race
Verona is a safe card always... he rides so cleverly aleways, and knows where to be
A shame that Valverde wasn't around to join in the fun as well
Especially with Valverde crashing out.
@@dididubalier2196 Well maybe not so safe yesterday -- didn't he abandon today because of his crash?
This didn't age well did it?
2 days ago we were laughing at Meintjes for chasing De la Cruz, while Eiking was still in red. I guess they knew what they were doing all along
I think everyone knew meintjes was overall a better climber/gc rider than Eiking. It’s just that when Eiking was in Red, that’s a huge deal for a small team like intermarche, more important than Meintjes getting 12th instead of 14th, so meintjes should’ve been doing all he could to help Eiking stay in red, and then after he cracked raced for himself. I think we can still laugh at meintjes.
@@benfried7100 i think we are both right.
@@benfried7100 Meintjes in top 10 changes things. 6 or 7 days in red doesn't change much when it comes to sponsors geting interested. Top 10 in GC in the grand tour does.
@@RudeCorona It does. Its Money. And reputation. And You never know if the race isnt abondon for snow/floods taking the current position as the overall gc
Honestly, I’m so happy that Meintjes has found some consistent and strong form with Intermarche. With the GC hopes of the whole of Africa on his shoulders, it’s bringing me back 4-5 years to his Lampre years taking top 10s at TDF & Vuelta.
once again: BRILLIANT RECAP! Thank you Laterne Rouge
Great recap, as always! The way Lopez flies by De la Cruz on the ascent was nuts. It looked like he was suddenly going downhill after that corner.
Best race analysis available. Great output guys!
The fact that Roglic gapped Mas and Bernal at the end tells you that Mas could not have attacked Roglic earlier and held it to the line.
not necessarily. Roglic's faster sprint finish is the only reason he gained a few seconds on Mas, that doesn't directly correlate to having better legs for all of the last few KMs
@@elliotbain8260 I would agree normally but this wasnt 2 people sprinting max. Roglic was sprinting, Mas was just riding as fast a pace as he could. Really did seem like ROglic had more left in the tank imo.
@@elliotbain8260 respectively I disagree. Mas sat on wheels till the end with Roglic doing most of pulling and yet Roglic gaps Mas at the end. That strongly suggests Roglic put Mas right at the limit with Mas just trying to hold Roglic's wheel. If Mas had the legs to gap Roglic and hold it, he should have done so. The fact that he didn't says he didn't have the legs.
@@michaelglidewell1524 probably, although Mas would always have had to sit on roglic’s wheel with MAL up ahead so don’t think it’s to do with that
There were bonus seconds for top 3 on stage right? Could Mas have used more bonus seconds?
Perfect timing by Lopez - when Kuss started to pace, I thought - ok, Roglić doesn't want to counter any more attacks at the moment. Lopez probably smelled it too and off he went.
Fantastic job for Movistar and Migel Angel lopez! well deserved win! Congratulations to Colombia!
Amazing job by Lopez (good to see Movistar succeed after losing Valverde) Very brave by Bernal, both today and yesterday, but it looks like this Vuelta is in the bag for Roglic.
i am still convinced they ride this way because Valverde is out. He wouldnt allow Lopez to attack or would have (weak) attacked Roglic later. Not like Mas who did the right thing and only marked Roglic. Valverde was right there in the last years for all the blunders Movistar made. he definitley is part (imo a big part) of the reason they rode how they rode.
Movistar finally doing well for a bit
And that with just 5 riders left
7:48 just wondering, do we skip Vuelta Stage 19 or what? We have stage 20 preview instead of stage 19?????
Felt sorry for Lopez in that after all that hard work the camera shot of him crossing the line showed just a thick mist and it was only about 5m later that you can make him out.
Fully agree that he needs to be riding as number 1 in a GC tour next year without another leader competing with him.
I think Mas was at his limit as evidence by Roglic accelerating away from him just before the line to take second with a time gap and also get the bonus seconds.
Chapeau Bernal for his effort and proving his talent.
I can see why Romain Bardet was pissed at his teammate taking his jersey but the more I see of Micheal Storer the more it's clear he is ruthless.
Impressive work by Gino Mader too -- finished with the other GC contenders today and is in the overall top 10.
"Ineos the new Movistar" 😂
That finish image of Lopez gives me chills
Ineos is the new movistar summarizes this vuelta
Mas could've attacked and then destroyed himself? I doubt he got dropped for fun in the end.
Attacking at say 2 km to go is different from getting dropped in the last 200mt where roglic's punch is way better than anyone else
Originally, I figured Mas was playing the teammate role but I think at the end, his meter was pegged.
How do you think Bardet feels about his teammate Storer swiping the KOM jersey from him?
I have a feeling Bardet will go into the break on stage 20 to take it back.
Gino Mader is definitely the breakout performance of the Vuelta
Storer?
Roglic does not want to see any of Bernal ahead of him. He seems ok with any of the Movistar riders.
Bon courage ❤️🩹
Großschartner gotta go break in stage 19 if he wants to finish Top 10 in Compostella
Im not a cyclist dunno why im watching this but when I put the exercise bike on heavy resistance I can't last long, can't imagine doing that in high altitude too jesus wept
Looks like Moviestar will need to gain 5minutes plus on next stage to de-thrown Roglic, which is highly unlikely. Great analysis by LR.
I actually thought Mas could’ve gone today, thought it was good teamwork
The cadence in this stage was great. NOBODY in GC is grinding anymore because finally they mechanics put on proper ratios for each stage.
Carb the fuck up
Disc brakes for the win bro.
So many wry quips from LR, I laugh at each one. I loved, “it’s not high altitude the fog will have to do.” From my very limited experience riding in Colombia, a mountain covered in cloud shrouding you with light drizzly rain is to be expected.
And now we know how Lopez achieved performances like this. He doped.
Lol “Ineos are the new Movistar”
Bernal= “ im the most tired ive ever been, but am also having the most fun” …hes basically enjoying lighting up the race for shits and giggles
3 teams take up the top 7 places in GC, seems they're on a different level
watch race, watch LRCP, watch lantern recap. rinse, repeat.
Exactly.
Awesome action
And Supermán flies into the clouds. Nothing can stop Roglič now.
1:55. Ryan Gibbons African bands look really cool. No other countries have those colours so it makes it unique... and cool. Think of all the countries with red, white and blue. US, UK, Slovenia, Slovakia, Netherlands, France, Luxembourg, Norway, Russia. So uncool! But his is lime green and blue. That pretty cool.
Yukiya Arashiro deserves a pay rise.
I bet he put in an Arashiro highlight because Benji is such an Arashiro fan...
Giro was by far the best grand tour this year.
Hahaha.... no way
What a joke. Giro was the weakest because the competition was the weakest. Because of the crashes in the Tour the competition in the Vuelta was the biggest.
Mas wouldn't drop Rogla. Look at finish 6 sec difference in such a short term.
Louis Mentjes was in reality very good this season.
I think Roglic gapped Mas. As interesting as it was to watch Lopez and Mas and to speculate, I found Intermarché's team to be the most unexpected team this whole Vuelta. I hope they can continue to progress and build into a stronger GC team.
Kudos to Lopez for today's win.
Thanks for podcast!
Agreed, but hopefully they redesign their kit first😅
Curious how english channels like yours see the race and the athletes compared to some spanish twitter sector, that are hating so much against Mas. People like to "back-seat cycling" i guess...
How can they hate on Mas? He played stage 18 perfectly as a teammate. Stage 17 was disappointing I guess but he just doesn’t have the legs
@@LanterneRougeCycling i think they expect every single spanish rider that can fight for GC to be as strong as Indurain or Contador were idk
Great stage report! Did you move to Europe already?
“Ineos are the new Movistar” savage!!
lmaoooo If Froome pulled like the Rogla did, everybody would laugh at him and call him a cheat. Primo and others doing 6,3 watts for 30 min. Its all good. They are just talented :)
They’re all juiced, common.. let’s just watch the show.
Once Froome left Sky where is he now???
@@jalaladhiri6696 ISN
Superman is the guy who wins the super steep stage because he has lost so much time the leader has no reason to chase him.
Man, Portal's disappearance really hit the INEOS tactics and performance bad....
The only way Mas could have won some time is by counter attacking at say 2/3km from the top; which was not an option with MAL up the road. They did the right thing imo
Respect to Bernal
Lopez was supposed to ride the Giro this year, but obviously couldn't due to circumstances.
Maybe Roglic didn't follow Superman because it was impossible to see him? Bernal should have attacked in a cloud too!
The fog certainly did do 👍🏻😂
Why won't Yates help bernal?
Didnt have the legs like always in a 3 week grand tour.
@@nickmullen2830 ah right cheers.
Lopez in great cyclist, fell in a mediocre team, let's hope to see him again in great shape
amazing
hahaha Ineos is the new Movistar ... hahahahaha
Storer was the hero of this stage.
Rogla doing it easy…..basically gave the stage to Lopez!
I hate giving away victories
Lopez gonna win a grand tour in 2 years
Movistar? Joke. Bernal? Beautiful stage yesterday. Real bike racer. Primoz? Great stage yesterday... good stage today. Kuss was great team mate.
Movietar alwayd find their legs in the home tour....curious, eh?
What would've Valverde and Verona done today to the GC?... Absolutely nothing they would've done. Lopez got his move on Roglic, much more wasn't in the bag and Mas same thing. He didn't seem as strong as Roglic during the whole Altu d'El Gamoniteiru climb.
To be honest, Lopez has a serial killer face. Dude scares me, reminds me of Murtry from the Expanse/Scientist in Pacific Rim (Burn Gorman)
Bicycle
Bicycle!
no mas... no mas... no way mas could have done anything off roglic pace.
Now you see why playing in high altitude mountains is quite other level ... because TDF claim have high mointains but neither are long enough or high compared to this titan mountain ... some say Colombian riders can benefit form REAL high and long climbs you can easily find mountains to climb from 1000 or 2000 to 3000 mosl and longer than 20 km and this is near Lopez or Bernal home towns ... I guess most of the peloton is not interested in sufering like today's stage but as for 'show' /' ratings' you can't deny yesterday and today Colombians made cycling the must see thing on live TV. is insane what they can do, as for Rogla, maybe he can endure but how much how high can stay is true he is the best but todays test is not an A or B+ for rogla chapeau to rogla to use brains to excel on 2 of the most insane back to back stages in the last 5 years.
he don't destroy Bernal and Roglic he was just not dangerous for the GC wich allowed him more liberty than bernal or mas
Hahaha and then Movistar asked him to stop pulling! Because they have Mas at podium position! Miguel Angel Lopez isn't racing for second!
FREE ARASHIRO
I dont know but yates trying to contend with bernal instead of helping in the climbs its really stupid imo. This race is Roglic's
Is La Vuelta a Espana spelled Vuelta a Espanier. Where does that "R" at the end of Espana come from that you pronounce???
Que tiene el Movistar que sus corredores brillan más que en otros equipos 🤔
The queen stage snatcher strikes again.
Yates not gonna work for Bernal coz Ineos is the new Movistar 😂😂😂
Wanty have been great
Jamiroquai did it again, GC is a wrap
Where is your Superman in GC, eh?
Mas would’ve done mas at the finish if he could. So no mo Mas. plus, convenient that super duper man was up the road and he could hide behind that.
I don't get why Roglic won't mark Lopez but only Bernal.
Bigger cap in GC and Lopez is weaker in TT.
Probably because Bernal and Mas are the teams main leaders and if I remember correctly he wasn’t on Lopezs wheel or close enough to close it
Guess because López is trash on TTs
I think he knew he was near his limit and feared bonking if he chased Lopez who clearly had brilliant legs in that last 3km. As it was he limited Lopez lead considerably.
@@epincion Movistar has ridden for Rogla many times. Let him win...
Liking these all in attacks from Bernal. Just like Contador in his latter years.
FORZA SUPER MAN LOPEZ ✊✊✊
Disc brakes ruined the look, the weight, and the aerodynamic of the bicycles. 😞
Hi
Mas definitely looked very comfortable in Roglics wheel. I think he would have been able to attack and drop both Roglic and Bernal.
Curious to know why you can use video footage but others can't.
I pay for it
It literally says “footage licensed from ASO” at the end of each video - it’s not hard to figure out if you can read 😂
@@LanterneRougeCycling Chris Horner is too cheap to pay for it?
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Hahahaha he didn't destroyed them. They only lost with López less than a minute. If López were gotten more than 2 or 3 minutes, that video title could have had sense. 😅😅🤦♂️🤦♂️
I like the recaps but dude what language do you speak ? It sure isn’t English
I'm not a native English speaker and i understand him perfectly every word.