Pyro’s problem is that he jumped headfirst into a lifestyle he can no longer sustain. The second after he started FFXIV and blew up he quit his job, bought a new car, bought a house, got married. The instant he finished MSQ he went straight back to “streaming is a hobby” levels of support and now he can’t keep up. He’s been pissed about it ever since.
He should have known, Rich had already imploded. Preach is the only one who held on and that's because he plays other games and has a great relationship with his FC. Who in their right mind would want to be in Pyros FC?
This is 100% his issue. Rather than wait for 6-9 months to see if he could maintain and sustain his growth, he doubled down so he could stream full time without realizing that his sub count would return to baseline once the MSQ was done because outside of his reacts to lore, he didn't actually offer a community and he wasn't that entertaining or chill to watch. He has essentially been embroiled in 3-4 major blow-ups since streaming as well. This guy flies off the handle on a quarterly basis at this point. He needs help, and if he's getting help, he needs to rethink his treatment because it isn't fucking working.
Accurate. He isn't as humble as he tried portray, but his decline in viewership was added to by his attitude/outbursts. I think he would have levelled off into being a 1-2k average streamer, since at this height he was getting 4-7k. But after being rude to several viewers then maths and console vs PC incidents, he dropped right back down to where he started. I felt bad for him at first, since dude has a problem, but he keeps putting himself in these situations, like with the Zepla stuff, he was being such a holier-than-thou hypocrite I lost all empathy.
Not surprised. This guy keeps saying shit and gets clapped back by community. Soon comes another very sincere apology video and then it happens again a few weeks/months later. He's just that kind of person.
@@DoppelgangerTH I don't think hes sincere hes said he taken acting classes and the way he acts has always to me personally never felt genuine, it makes me cringe cause the actual emotion never felt legit outside of his rage moment like his WoW rant before going to FFXIV. That felt like someone legit upset over wasting over a decade of their life investing into the lore of a game thats constantly took dumps on the part of the game he loved the most.
ye the soyboy should stay off the internet he cleary can take it he throws hissy fits like those manchildren on gmod rp servers whenever things dont go his way im surprised he hasn't been banned on ffxiv tbh seeing as streamer privilege shouldn't really apply to him cuz he is so boring and shit in the first place and it would not have a negative impact on the game as a whole
*Pyro does something unhinged* Pyro: Im sorry, im gonna changed and take a break This is like the 7th time you have said this in like the space of 2 months
I mentioned that he should prepare his expectations because numbers would drop once story was over. He literally came unhinged and spent 10 minutes explaining why i was wrong.
Pyro imploded soon after finishing the story after realizing that was the only reason a large majority of people were watching him. As soon as he had to come up with regular content ideas, people had to deal with his actual casual personality more, which led to situations like the math boss, consoles vs pc, and the lalafell chair just to name a few.
I remember thinking how delusional pyro was when he cried on stream cause he finally had enough viewers to stream full time. Dude had no awareness that it will last as long as the MSQ at best.
@@TheDancingBastard He had a meltdown at the math boss because he didn’t understand the mechanic right away, started whining / raving about how it’s a horrible encounter and banning people who tried to explain it to him. The whole rest of the 24 man he was insanely salty trashing the game, the players, and the raid itself. Ended up deleting the vod and apologizing for it later like he does for every single incident, that was actually the event that made me stop watching him as I’d been following his MSQ journey up to that point.
That is so crazy to hear the Fahros story. I came across him during XI about a month or two ago, super chill dude, very inviting, loved his energy, good talker, very charismatic. Then one day I said something in his chat, something about disconnects becoming more frequent, and he loses his mind and starts calling me a liar and saying he's gonna ban me. His chat got uncomfortable and sided with me cause it was this insane Bipolar switch-flip for him. He reached out to me the next day to invite me back in because we were both wrong (Although his language suggested he was 51% right, like you said). Dude hasn't changed a bit. And it's such a sucker-punch because he otherwise sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. It's like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation. I didn't respond, I didn't need that infecting my entertainment time. Hope you all enjoyed story-time.
Pyromancer is the gift that keeps giving. The “Karen of MMORPGs”. MSQ viewer count isn’t the same as post-MSQ viewer count. Every single FFXIV streamer knows that. FFXIV players all have gone MSQ. But not all players do everything after MSQ. Some become omnicrafters. Others become hardcore raiders. A few become housing pros.
ff14 community weird as shit lmao, they just wanna see peoples "reactions" to their godsent game I guess then jump ship instantly when you're done with the reacting.
Tbh with his blowups he shoulda gone the pf route after MSQ. Pure unfiltered pf, stuff that people actually watch consistently an that hollier than thou attitude malding would prolly get attention there.
Man, people would be surprised at how many streamers have their mods actually do this and blame it on twitch because it's a solid alibi. There are a few bigger streamers that conveniently have ads run before moments their audience would typically want to see. AI can't even feasibly do this shit right now as there is not sufficient calculus available for that kind of content yet.
I actually made a comment to him about having a chip. he was talking about tattoos and I made a comment about tattoos being body graffiti and he blew up. He ranted for a minute without me saying anything, then a couple of minute alter he started ranting again and I said dude get the chip off your shoulder, it was just an opinion and he started say no one cares about your opinion and then muted me, then when off complaining for another 10 min during which he muted another person who told him to chill out. He was still ranting when I left and went to another streamers channel, Ponyo I think it was Maybe 10-15 minutes later he showed up in the same stream but said nothing even when the streamer greeted him. I stayed for a while but then left. I passed by the channel some time later ans saw that I was still muted so I didn't bother to go back. The guys a coward who will talk about people while having them muted so they can't defend themselves
@@IzzyPR2010 you're slightly off. its not graffiti. at least that shit comes off. with tattoos they kinda dont. like ever. even if you get em lasered off its a very, VERY small chance that they can come off without the laser doing permanent scarring to the skin tissue in the area. so. its less body grafitti and more like colorful body stains that just really can't come out. btw this is comin from someone who has several tattoos.
What's insane is that Pyro had such luck by being made visible by Asmon at the right time for him to stream MSQ and garner a downpour of support. Of course a lot of that support was not organic and it was bound to go down at some point but he actually LOST viewership that was already there before 14. It's crazy that instead of trying to retain as much of that viewership as he possibly could he proceeded to seppuku his own channel by berating his chat for petty crap, acting unhinged and just flat out being a prick.
Never going to forgive Fahros. My static at the time got our Samurai 100s for all DPS in the Deltascape Raids and I showed Fahros that Samurai was worth the trouble if the player was good. He proceeded to label our Samurai as "boosted" and that he could do that without any sort of catering. Actual human garbage to me after that.
Fahros cannot admit that he is inferior to anyone and must be the alpha chad. He pretty much is an insecure loser who uses his community as a means to stroke his ego because he knows he has nothing going for himself.
It's crazy hearing about the Fahros drama after I used to be in his FC. I ended up leaving for a friend's FC and i never paid attention to him again but damn, the dude really just needed to chill.
I just use a custom emote macro... turns out you can angle the /highfive emote just the right way that it still looks like a slap. here it is /highfive motion /em bops on the head. Doh! The audible SMACK! sound is the best. :)
The tag 'Pyromancer' is not an accident. His passion and charisma made him popular, but the flip side is his raging ego and temper burns it all down around him.
I never knew that fahros guy, but hes giving me a massive Rin vibe. People like that always give me the creep. Seems wholesome but deepdown its like cesspool of toxicity.
Crazy part is that I was friends with Fahros prior to the slap emote drama as I he also played SoulCalibur and met him through IRMaxi. He even followed me on Twitch at one point. Around the time the drama happened, I recently transferred his server and was trying to join his FC. When I asked to join, the man gave me the coldest response I could have ever received. I unfollowed him a few days after and never went to his stream again. I had NOTHING to do with what happened and was hoping he'll be able to tough it out until it blew over but, that bridge was burned that day. Still in my memory to this day. I think the thing that killed Fahros entirely in the FFXIV community is the Ultimate drama where he was doing one of the fights in PF on stream then magically got his clear with a run seller off stream. He made a video defending himself but, it wasn't well received.
Fahros is such a joke and I am so glad you never joined his FC. I had a run of orbonne monastery as a healer and he demanded I rez him as priority over keeping the tank alive, myself and rezzing a fellow healer. I /laughed at him and rezzed healer, then RDM and said don't rez the deadbeat SAM. I was banned from his channel lol.
I loved watching Pyromancer during his ffxiv playthrough through Shadowbringers, for the reasons this video goes into. It was my favorite for a season. I went back recently and it was actually painful how contentious it was. It was the opposite of fun. I'm sad for it.
As someone who struggled with anger issues for a long time, it comes from a place of self hatred. Lashing out at others, not wanting to admit fault, emotional instability, its all part of a sad, self loathing spiral. Pyro, and those like him are likely suffering just by being the way they are. My heart goes out to him.
I genuinely hope that one of these days Pyro gets himself some professional help for his anger issues. Its honestly just sad how he keeps blowing up at everyone around him trying to give him support.
iirc he did, several times its just that for it to work he needs to put an actual effort in, which he does not he should go back to scripted videos instead of streaming
@equalizer ya but in ffxiv lore channel does not work at all... look at all the lore channel we got... the amount of people activity looking for ffxiv lore video is not that high
@@FromHJH well thats becouse they are extremely boring and are just rehearsing the msq pyro had good format with wow theorycrafting (altho he had massive ego about his theories but thats beside the point) there is a void and he could fill it in in the way he did with wow, he was really good at it and scripted+edited video format would help a lot with his drama or atleast hide it from public and mitigate damage he is doing to himself now i dont know if it would be profitable to do, especially after controversy after controversy but still
@@RenaShirow Yeah pretty much. I've been playing Destiny since 2014 and in that community you oftentimes have people who dedicate themselves to the lore and such channels tend can do well enough for themselves (Myelin Games, My Name is Byf, etc etc) but that's because lore in Destiny is so... dense. The game just throws heaps upon heaps of lore books and lore tabs upon people and it's not something the player discovers organically through the video game medium. It's just... "here's a piece of armor with a story attached to it, go read it." As such, it's not uncommon for people to flock to those aforementioned lore channels for a sort of digest of the lore. This kind of thing does not necessarily occur in XIV. Everything feels just much more readily accessible and a lot of the history and lore of the world is obtained in an organic matter by... well, playing the game.
The problem with Pyro is he gets in his own way. Something comes up in chat and he HAS to react and his streams suffer because of it. Someone will make a comment & he will drop EVERYTHING just to rant about it, and then some people agree with the person, and he fucking piles on and on and on. The best thing to do is just completely ignore that shit and let chat flow.
Left the Pyro support train when he started going on these unhinged rage moments on the daily and i just dont need that in my life. Saw that he got involved in a couple of "dramas" but never really looked into it. But i decided to check his streamcharts today and holy shit. This guy blew up the goldmine he had with his rage and lunacy.
Initial Thoughts 4mins in: Pyro had THE SETUP coming into the XIV sphere with him being a "Lore Nut" and I mean that as a compliment. It could of gone in so many directions, I even watched one of his XIV Lore Videos on RUclips(It was recent like a month ago) and I gotta say that was a really good video. But he has this tendency to shoot himself in the foot then dig a knife into the wound with his very public and loud freakouts and outta-pocket comments(most of which were directed right at his viewers or streamers live). That man is his own worst enemy, so the smartest move for him to do was delete their Twitter Account. Edit: My OP still stands lol Also HOLY BEARD that thing had a presence of its own haha Amazing xP and that Slap Drama is pretty damn funny to revisit xD
I tried watching his stream once because I liked his MSQ reactions. Holy shit, it was the most toxic 15 minutes of my life. He was raging the whole time and I can't even remember why, some joke from chat or something.
@@animehbkscm All i remembered is when he blew up because some people in the chat told him that european bread is better than emerican ones. Sorta like a banter meme thing, and he lost his marbles.
I was still following him. After hearing that shit about how it doesn't matter, I decided to take his advice and unfollow. lol Ungrateful/entitled streamers are the worst, man. And it's not even correct. People who follow but aren't subscribed are still helpful to the growth of a channel, anyone could understand that. lmao
There's so many ways in which followers matter, too. Ofc, in the first place, they're relevant for all sorts of algorithm related stuff, but even beyond that, being part of that community means people talk about and share his content with their friends, which might get hooked themselves that way, also, the community feeling from a lively chat is a big part of what makes the paying subscribers feel comfortable and less hesitant to continue to spend on him, and so on. It's basically the same logic why F2P MMOs exist - the devs don't gain money from the players who don't pay, but their word of mouth, their slew of fanworks, their presences filling the world, etc. are very much relevant to making it a good experience for the ones who DO spend money.
Ah I remember the Fahros slap, I remember talking to Yoojin on the subreddit after fahros was implying on stream that he was intentionally griefing the party, and then the retread the next day of "is just a joke guys". I'm glad that clown got so excised from the game all he did after was solo potd runs because nobody would party with him for anything.
At first I was like "Oh ok. Just couple emotes, sounds like he is having fun playing it up for the viewers, right?" And then he wrote a paragraph into chat that I've never seen outside of games like League of Legends, and then left the game. All of that over an emote. Like the fuck?
I tuned into Pyro’s streams here and there around the time I was into binging FF14 stuff. I think what it came down to was his anger issues. Between long periods of note taking and passive aggressive (sometimes just aggressive) comments at his chat, his stream really was not a fun place to be. As some would say, he really fumbled the bag. His anger was a double edged sword, people love when it was directed at public enemy #1 aka WoW 😂. But when it shifted to them, and then the passage of time, along with the degeneracy of chat…it was only a matter of time. His choice to go all in wasn’t a bad one. But he should have adapted and changed, took streaming more seriously, its a story as old as time really.
I remember turning on pyro's stream back in ShB and it really took about 10 minutes for someone to correct him on a lore related thing and for him to start going on a huge tangent on why people are/could be wrong about a certain thing and it was strangely aggressive for someone who wasnt even halfway done with the expansion yet. Turned it off and unfollowed, haven't looked back since other than these xeno vids that i keep watching.
You'll see him at FanFest. Let's see if he dares Xeems to say this to his face like he did some in WoW. As for Fahros? Nobody on stream could tell someone emoted on him from across a room. He outed it himself and made his peepee look small at all once.
It's sad because Pyro when he's not losing it he's pretty entertaining, I've enjoyed his story analysis on top of his WoW lore stuff. But his ego gets the best of him way too easily and becomes self destructive real quick. I've tried giving him multiple chances as a casual viewer (as silly and dramatic as that sounds) but his tantrums are just too bizarre and disrespectful. His mods don't help either, he just surrounds himself with yes-men that feed into the hug-box. And I don't even mean to call him a "snowflake" but it's true, the stuff he argues with his chat about is absolutely bizarre. I remember one time he realized his walking speed was bound to "end" his chat. Chat then started making "Endwalker Pog" jokes. Mods went nuclear on it for some reason, claiming people were sharing spoilers. Pyro took their side despite people explaining that they were just making a joke, just banning everyone who was trying to say things and eventually going into that "If you don't want to watch we don't want you here anyway" type rant. So bizarre when if he just listened to what people were saying all of it could have been laughed off and avoided.
he acts like a lib feminists and they all got one thing in common. They on meds for mental issues and cannot "read" social cues. Don't really care what it is. Whether its autism, anger, etc, he is a walking red flag. Your point is exactly the crux of it. Ever made some raunchy sex joke that you would tell your friends, that you thought was benign to a woke women who you thought you were friends with? Then next day, you get called into HR, fired from your job and blacklisted. She turned something you did not know was that serious into something very serious. That is the same level of extreme overreaction that envelopes pyro. And he will justify it by telling you that making raunchy sex jokes is not appropriate and denigrating, etc. Some woke reasoning to guilt/shame you, calls you names and that you should grow up. Then when you fight back because that is what one does in conflict, he proceeds to ban/silence you. This is the reaction of someone with mental issues. Xenos says he acts like a crazy Ex... exactly.
Reason why Pyro thinks he has "woke" or "based" takes is bc he thinks he's some high iq intellectual or just think's he's obligated to something that he isn't no ones obligated to sub or donate to anyone
People like Pyro choose to think everyone dislikes what they have to say because it's "woke" or a hot take, when in reality most of what they have to say is just stupid.
I subbed to pyro for a few months back when he was still early before I knew much about them. Can't remember the exact interaction that flipped my perspective on him but it was somewhere around HW-SB where he would react to the smallest things in chat with just the shittiest manner. which he would then constantly go on about how he's sick of his attitude (even made a video about it) but would eventually just do it all again.
I'm seeing it a lot in the comments, but yea had a similar experience with pyro on stream. Genuinely loved his journey through the game and watched him even after some of the low moments, but he did have these explosive moments of arguing with chat and letting some things really get to him. I know 1st hand how rough twitch chat can be towards streamers and other chatters too but you gotta manage the best you can, especially maintaining the public image as a streamer
He did that with the lala chair thing. When he apologized yet again and spoke about how he would try to make outbursts/issues less prevalent. He's aware of the people who try to bait him into an argument and part of it was to stop people from trying to get clips or take him out of context or something idk Clearly he's still having issues so 🤷🏾♀️
Seems like an excuse to put a paywall. Noone with ill intent will be stopped by a sub price / twitch prime. He's just scaring off new viewers seeing his twitch page looking like an EA game
I want Pyro to be successful because when he's good, he's good, but when he's bad, he's bad and plummets. I hope he gets through the issues he's facing. Mental health stuff can really be horrible to deal with on the inside compared to what people see looking in.
But this isn't a new thing. He says he has been seeking help with it, but it just never stops, it's just one drama blowup after another and everytime he says oh it's gonna be different from now on, but it never is. From what WoW players said, this is not even something that only started with XIV either. Maybe at some point he should just accept that some people are just not cut out for streaming due to its unfiltered, immediate nature. After all, I really enjoy his regular videos, where he had the time and distance to really think through what he wants to say and how to say it.
@@sleepysera "Maybe at some point he should just accept that some people are just not cut out for streaming due to its unfiltered, immediate nature. he has already curated his discord and chat with essentially snowflakes. People who think the same way he does and have the same mental issues. By doing this however, his channel will never grow as he has restricted and created very specific and strict rules to his discord. What not to do, what not to say. eg. If your using microphone and you do not talk, then your taking up space and banned. He has regulated speech heavily in both discord and twitch. Its a liberals form of control. He turned his twitch/discord into a filtered echo chamber.
Xeno I wanted to chime in. I may not always agree with you, and I think you can be blunt and abrasive sometimes. However, I know you are genuine. I don't have to worry about you having some truly dumb outbursts. That's why I'll always supprt you. You are consistent, you are entertaining, you are knowlegable, and you know who you are. Keep up the good work man.
If it was really a joke, he would have immediately unblacklisted him and added him back, but I watched that stream and he did no such thing, it was only after the backlash that he unblacklisted the guy and tried to talk to him.
As someone who had followed him for awhile, back early in the WoW content he made, can't say I'm too surprised. Dude has always kind of had incredibly short fuse, I can't say I hate the guy or don't like him, in fact I genuinely enjoyed his content. But I think he needs to take some time to reflect on himself or even step away from it all for some time for his own health, really wish the best for him.
Was gonna post something incredibly similar to this. Followed him back at the end of wod for his lock guides and stayed around for his lore speculation and shit, haven't followed much of his ff14 journey aside from a few times since I genuinely don't care about anything besides ff14 raiding.
after the lalafel chair drama, he said he was taking 2 weeks off to reflect and then he got a bunch of donations to keep him afloat during that time off but he didnt seem to learn anything from that.
RUclips videos suited him better. It was obvious that he had anger issues to anyone paying attention even back then, but at lead all the time spent rendering at uploading a video gave him a lot of time to reflect before releasing something, and helped minimize the damage of this self destructive bs.
I enjoy his content too, but he really doesn't learn a damn thing from his mistakes. He's said he's stepping away or going to start going to therapy several times since he's come to FFXIV. Yet, if he's done those things, he hasn't improved. He still has some crazy anger issues. I'm just not gonna watch his live stuff. If he makes youtube videos, I'll watch them, but that's the extent of his content I'll consume.
@@normalmighty I realized the reason I enjoyed his videos more than his streams was because with his videos he wasn't interacting with other human beings. Seemed to suit him far better. Lol.
Pyro purposefully put twitch ads at big MSQ moments to get people to subscribe(it was around 83 in the Endwalker MSQ I think when he admitted it). Yeah I understand why he did that but it's still a dick move haha
It’s for the best. When I was a sprout I was immediately told to avoid his content and over time I understood why. I’ve never spoken ill about pyro but I liked a critical tweet from his fan during the chair drama and pyro blocked me lol. So immature and can’t take criticism
He deserves to lose his streaming career. He doesn't deserve to have loyal supporters. The consumer MAKES your brand. And as soon as you turn on them, your dream ends
Pyro has zero emotional regulation and he'll never seek help for it because he thinks he's the biggest cock in the coop and that any friction he experiences in life is someone else's fault. Maybe if everyone stopped paying attention to him he'd be forced to confront reality but people love staring at a trainwreck. Expect him to get worse and worse and just keep hurting everyone around him.
I've enjoyed basically all MSQ and lore-related content Pyro's made. I like his takes on story stuff and he has some really good ideas. That said, he's a ticking timebomb and it's hard to watch him live or even his vods because you never know when something is gonna set him off. He's got an ego that prevents him from considering other viewpoints and has a serious entitlement complex because of the fact he's a streamer. His comment about followers not contributing (which is insulting on top of being blatantly false) just makes me not want to watch him ever again.
I once had a guildmate that claimed to be a friend of Pyromancer. They were someone that seemed pretty open and friendly at first, and some of us even thought that association was kind of cool. As time went on, however, the person revealed themselves to be really condescending, holding their opinion way above everyone else, and behaved in a way that broke down friendly social dynamics when they were around. To hear Pyromancer is not unlike that is disappointing, but considering the company they keep, it does not surprise me at all.
I hope he takes steps to learn impulse control and starts taking care of himself. Pyro doesnt seem to be doing well and i hope he doesnt get dogpiled to oblivion. Ppl shouldnt forget guys like etika and reckful.
he really needs some serious IRL help. needs to pretty much disconnect from the internet, take a step back. cherish the things he has in life, and learn that all his outbursts are doing nothing for his mental health, and only serve to have him corner himself into a dangerous mindset. he's too emotionally attached to every little thing. only reason Xenos' outbursts work is because at the end of the day everyone knows its just the loud grumblings of an annoyed bald man who really just doesnt give a fuck in the first place.
You don't even need notes for FFXIV either, the game isn't cryptic or full of retcons, you get the whole picture told to you multiple times just by playing... it's like taking notes on Dora the Explorer. How Pyro can spend literally a half hour jotting down shit Urianger says is beyond my comprehension.
The world is a better place without Pyro streaming. Seriously, been to his stream like 5 or so times and EVERY time he was fucking yelling and going off the deep end.
I remember in one of Pyro's stream when he was still learning Black Mage someone corrected him when he made an error on something pertaining to black mage. He got absurdly angered and mad that he was not all knowing on a class that he was new to compared to some players in his chat who have known for YEARS! It just became so hard to watch his content after this kept happening over and over😮💨
I could tell he was a low quality person and had personality disorders the first stream I watched of him. You can tell in the things he says and the way he acts to others and to situations. I think a lot of people on twitch just aren't good at reading other people. Sometimes it's not that obvious, but this is one of the times it's very obvious. Like Destiny. Sometimes it's just obvious, but people don't see it.
@@Lunamana You're wild to think he's one of the biggest contributors to it when there's actual racists, xyz-phobes, and terrorists on twitter. I get you don't like the guy for good reason but god damn have some fucking perspective.
We don't need to become a successful streamer to know that pyro is a mess and full of emotions. He is definitely an enthusiast for lore and he will probably have better mental health if he reduce his streaming time and make more videos on youtube
Yeah he's never going to change. We'll be back here in a month or two with the next edition. At this rate Xeno can become a react to pyro's recent meltdown strummer.
Well for a time it was true. Idk about now, I don’t pay attention to stuff like that anymore, but I faintly remember his large following regardless of what he played.
Some old FC members of mine raided UwU with Fahros and they described him to be "hard to work with" and drama started when Fahros demanded that they delete certain twitch clips
He's trying to pin all this shit on ADHD not realizing that none of his problems are related to ADHD. ADHD is an attention deficit disorder with potentially hyperactivity. It relates to your attention span and attentiveness. It does not cause the emotional issues that he's pinning on it. ADHD is one of the most common disorders on the planet and he's using it thinking he can blame all his qualms on it, as if we can't fact-check it in less than 2 minutes to see that he's wrong. He even says that it's only started since FFXIV, but even the WoW community came in to go "that's a fucking lie".
Sadly a lot of WoW streamers left once the MSQ ended cause, low views withouth understanding that they have to build up their comunity, just how they did with WoW. Like, dude, you played the game for an year and on your previous you have been there for like 10 years. Its not the game that viewes see, is the entratainment of the streamer. You know that this WoW streamers that returned are currently doing? Nothing, walking, killing mobs, doing raids? How is that fun? How is that diferent than ffxiv? Nothing, is the entratainment, this ppl really didnt game the chanse and their excuse were the numbers.
@@veppy4952 Your speaking of a game that is 10 years older and much more known, please tell me what wow does different and how is related to the game itself and not the streamer. The reason thoese stream succed is no diferent than what Xenosys Vex does.
Wierdest thing to me is he talks about how people should'nt be toxic and promotes positivity and then gets one guy'd and snaps into an extremely toxic person.
Pyro is so self destructive. Streaming is seriously not a healthy career for him. Saying that people who don’t sub don’t add any value to your stream is basically career suicide. How tf do you think you grow? You attract new people and if they like your content enough and they can afford it maybe they will support more directly through subbing. Seriously though. Pyro needs to find a new career. You can make a career streaming 14, but you gotta be seriously entertaining to do so which Pyro is not. PS: that walk back by Fahros has gotta go in a top 10 most painfully obvious walk backs of all time.
Man. Okay, so being on the spectrum myself and struggling with some ADHD like issues I did empathize with Pyro and part of me still does, but damn my man's imploding like crazy.
Fuck him man, he don't know you or care about you. Having ADHD or ASD doesn't excuse shitty behaviour in adults. Many people have autism and are the nicest people ever. Infact I have a friend who has asberges and he is the coolest most nicest guy in the world. Fuck pyro. I bet you are 100x nicer than him! I can understand why you would empathise with him but it's wasted on someone like that lol. Autism is technically a super power anyways so your good bro.
By the looks of it, Pyro is pretty much an adult that never truly matured emotionally... He's insanely unstable in that regard, and that usually leads to his infamous "Rants", which are more like tantrums. Like Xeno said... It would be much better for both Pyro and the FF14 community if he just stopped streaming altogether, because clearly the dude is not emotionally built for it. And quite frankly... very few people are built for such a job. Being a public figure can be incredibly draining psychologically, you are NOT allowed to make mistakes, or else you'll get socially crucified, sometimes by your very own community. You also HAVE to learn how to cope with the abuse people will throw your way, because if you don't... Well, you get cases like Pyro.
Pyro’s problem is that he jumped headfirst into a lifestyle he can no longer sustain. The second after he started FFXIV and blew up he quit his job, bought a new car, bought a house, got married. The instant he finished MSQ he went straight back to “streaming is a hobby” levels of support and now he can’t keep up. He’s been pissed about it ever since.
Honestly I agree 100%
Remember when he cried on stream because of his 'success'. He literally looked like a HS student that just peaked
He should have known, Rich had already imploded. Preach is the only one who held on and that's because he plays other games and has a great relationship with his FC. Who in their right mind would want to be in Pyros FC?
This is 100% his issue. Rather than wait for 6-9 months to see if he could maintain and sustain his growth, he doubled down so he could stream full time without realizing that his sub count would return to baseline once the MSQ was done because outside of his reacts to lore, he didn't actually offer a community and he wasn't that entertaining or chill to watch. He has essentially been embroiled in 3-4 major blow-ups since streaming as well. This guy flies off the handle on a quarterly basis at this point. He needs help, and if he's getting help, he needs to rethink his treatment because it isn't fucking working.
Accurate. He isn't as humble as he tried portray, but his decline in viewership was added to by his attitude/outbursts. I think he would have levelled off into being a 1-2k average streamer, since at this height he was getting 4-7k. But after being rude to several viewers then maths and console vs PC incidents, he dropped right back down to where he started. I felt bad for him at first, since dude has a problem, but he keeps putting himself in these situations, like with the Zepla stuff, he was being such a holier-than-thou hypocrite I lost all empathy.
pyro is so self destructive, selfish and aggressive with the people around him it’s really sad
he used to make some genuinely fantastic WoW lore vids and i loved him then, loved his journey in FFXIV but now he really thinks he’s xqc or something
Not surprised. This guy keeps saying shit and gets clapped back by community. Soon comes another very sincere apology video and then it happens again a few weeks/months later. He's just that kind of person.
Its hilarious actually.
@@DoppelgangerTH I don't think hes sincere hes said he taken acting classes and the way he acts has always to me personally never felt genuine, it makes me cringe cause the actual emotion never felt legit outside of his rage moment like his WoW rant before going to FFXIV. That felt like someone legit upset over wasting over a decade of their life investing into the lore of a game thats constantly took dumps on the part of the game he loved the most.
@Notaforumguy007 that was clearly a sarcasm. You never say "very sincere" unironically
best play pyro has ever done was delete his twitter. He's so emotional and his own worst enemy, it's sad.
Emotional? Dude has some serious mental illness going on.
Honestly, deleting Twitter is a good thing for Pyro.
@Sol I'd argue it's a good thing for everyone, twitter is a cesspool
ye the soyboy should stay off the internet he cleary can take it he throws hissy fits like those manchildren on gmod rp servers whenever things dont go his way im surprised he hasn't been banned on ffxiv tbh seeing as streamer privilege shouldn't really apply to him cuz he is so boring and shit in the first place and it would not have a negative impact on the game as a whole
he will be back in week or two
*Pyro does something unhinged* Pyro: Im sorry, im gonna changed and take a break
This is like the 7th time you have said this in like the space of 2 months
Just another Monday
I've given Pyro a second chance before because I relate to his mental issues... but yeah at this point, he's cashed that out totally.
I mentioned that he should prepare his expectations because numbers would drop once story was over. He literally came unhinged and spent 10 minutes explaining why i was wrong.
You did a good thing and tried to help a man, but he turned out to be a man child. He deserves what he got.
And that soured even worse than milk. It rotted.
You tried lol not much u can do. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.
Good effort but you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.
I legit remember this LMAO
Pyro imploded soon after finishing the story after realizing that was the only reason a large majority of people were watching him. As soon as he had to come up with regular content ideas, people had to deal with his actual casual personality more, which led to situations like the math boss, consoles vs pc, and the lalafell chair just to name a few.
And also shitting on zepla just because she plays wizard game.
What happened with Math Boss?
I remember thinking how delusional pyro was when he cried on stream cause he finally had enough viewers to stream full time. Dude had no awareness that it will last as long as the MSQ at best.
@@TheDancingBastard He had a meltdown at the math boss because he didn’t understand the mechanic right away, started whining / raving about how it’s a horrible encounter and banning people who tried to explain it to him. The whole rest of the 24 man he was insanely salty trashing the game, the players, and the raid itself. Ended up deleting the vod and apologizing for it later like he does for every single incident, that was actually the event that made me stop watching him as I’d been following his MSQ journey up to that point.
@@Zumboria jeez that sounds sad.
That is so crazy to hear the Fahros story. I came across him during XI about a month or two ago, super chill dude, very inviting, loved his energy, good talker, very charismatic. Then one day I said something in his chat, something about disconnects becoming more frequent, and he loses his mind and starts calling me a liar and saying he's gonna ban me. His chat got uncomfortable and sided with me cause it was this insane Bipolar switch-flip for him. He reached out to me the next day to invite me back in because we were both wrong (Although his language suggested he was 51% right, like you said). Dude hasn't changed a bit. And it's such a sucker-punch because he otherwise sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. It's like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation. I didn't respond, I didn't need that infecting my entertainment time.
Hope you all enjoyed story-time.
Pyromancer is the gift that keeps giving. The “Karen of MMORPGs”. MSQ viewer count isn’t the same as post-MSQ viewer count. Every single FFXIV streamer knows that. FFXIV players all have gone MSQ. But not all players do everything after MSQ. Some become omnicrafters. Others become hardcore raiders. A few become housing pros.
ff14 community weird as shit lmao, they just wanna see peoples "reactions" to their godsent game I guess then jump ship instantly when you're done with the reacting.
@AZodiacCancer the whole population of limsa, if memes are to be trusted
You forgot the mare users
As always, the PvP sweatlords are forgotten… 😔
Tbh with his blowups he shoulda gone the pf route after MSQ. Pure unfiltered pf, stuff that people actually watch consistently an that hollier than thou attitude malding would prolly get attention there.
Quit watching Pyro when he started playing ads during big reveal cutscenes to force people to sub, then lying that it was just twitch doing it.
Really bold of him to try and lie about it when every single voiced scene in Ultima Thule started with ads.
It could have been soo much easier to just play ads as he sits there for 10 minutes taking notes imo
Man, people would be surprised at how many streamers have their mods actually do this and blame it on twitch because it's a solid alibi. There are a few bigger streamers that conveniently have ads run before moments their audience would typically want to see. AI can't even feasibly do this shit right now as there is not sufficient calculus available for that kind of content yet.
He straight up said several times on stream that he played ads at the worst times to annoy people into subbing.
@@korketre Thats not how this works at all...
It just makes me quit watching an wait for the vod when i remember about it the next week
Pyro really fell off
Being a raging inferno of self esteem issues and being given to fits of berating his subscribers and viewers will do that.
falling off requires that he was 'on' at some point
@@laggyjaggi8666 I'd argue he was always on, and overtime he overheated and burned cause he never could turn off.
@@Deverer93 Funny how a pyromancer can be burned HARD.
Was he ever on
Pyro trying to gatekeep, but instead of a guard of a gate he comes across as a mall cop with a chip on his shoulder.
I actually made a comment to him about having a chip. he was talking about tattoos and I made a comment about tattoos being body graffiti and he blew up. He ranted for a minute without me saying anything, then a couple of minute alter he started ranting again and I said dude get the chip off your shoulder, it was just an opinion and he started say no one cares about your opinion and then muted me, then when off complaining for another 10 min during which he muted another person who told him to chill out. He was still ranting when I left and went to another streamers channel, Ponyo I think it was Maybe 10-15 minutes later he showed up in the same stream but said nothing even when the streamer greeted him. I stayed for a while but then left. I passed by the channel some time later ans saw that I was still muted so I didn't bother to go back. The guys a coward who will talk about people while having them muted so they can't defend themselves
@@IzzyPR2010 you're slightly off. its not graffiti. at least that shit comes off. with tattoos they kinda dont. like ever. even if you get em lasered off its a very, VERY small chance that they can come off without the laser doing permanent scarring to the skin tissue in the area. so. its less body grafitti and more like colorful body stains that just really can't come out.
btw this is comin from someone who has several tattoos.
What's insane is that Pyro had such luck by being made visible by Asmon at the right time for him to stream MSQ and garner a downpour of support. Of course a lot of that support was not organic and it was bound to go down at some point but he actually LOST viewership that was already there before 14.
It's crazy that instead of trying to retain as much of that viewership as he possibly could he proceeded to seppuku his own channel by berating his chat for petty crap, acting unhinged and just flat out being a prick.
Never going to forgive Fahros. My static at the time got our Samurai 100s for all DPS in the Deltascape Raids and I showed Fahros that Samurai was worth the trouble if the player was good. He proceeded to label our Samurai as "boosted" and that he could do that without any sort of catering. Actual human garbage to me after that.
Fahros cannot admit that he is inferior to anyone and must be the alpha chad. He pretty much is an insecure loser who uses his community as a means to stroke his ego because he knows he has nothing going for himself.
I used to watch fahros a lot. But the fact he is upset at an emote … in a game. Is really sad
replacing the beeps with the creaking sound of the microphone arm is so good, well done
It's crazy hearing about the Fahros drama after I used to be in his FC. I ended up leaving for a friend's FC and i never paid attention to him again but damn, the dude really just needed to chill.
I used to be in Fahros' FC and static too way back in ARR/HW and he was soooo toxic lol
Note to myself: never slap streamers, only high five them from behind.
With a chair?
On the head of course
@@pokemondude45 Hehehe.
I just use a custom emote macro... turns out you can angle the /highfive emote just the right way that it still looks like a slap. here it is
/highfive motion
/em bops on the head. Doh!
The audible SMACK! sound is the best. :)
@@traugdor Works well. Cheers!
The Fahros shit was legendary. Imagine being a FFXIV streamer and having that much ego when you're supposedly promoting "positivity".
The tag 'Pyromancer' is not an accident. His passion and charisma made him popular, but the flip side is his raging ego and temper burns it all down around him.
I never knew that fahros guy, but hes giving me a massive Rin vibe.
People like that always give me the creep. Seems wholesome but deepdown its like cesspool of toxicity.
Sounds like the FFXIV community as a whole XD
what I find baffling is that I remember saw his stream and there is a fkin sub goal for doing the drk quest 💀
Slap drama... how do people find anything to complain about
this is why i hardly watch streams, they’re usually are full of themselves
Not enough content ingame apparently
The slap drama was back in launch of shadowbringers
I wondered the same about the lalafell 🪑
Crazy part is that I was friends with Fahros prior to the slap emote drama as I he also played SoulCalibur and met him through IRMaxi. He even followed me on Twitch at one point. Around the time the drama happened, I recently transferred his server and was trying to join his FC. When I asked to join, the man gave me the coldest response I could have ever received. I unfollowed him a few days after and never went to his stream again. I had NOTHING to do with what happened and was hoping he'll be able to tough it out until it blew over but, that bridge was burned that day. Still in my memory to this day.
I think the thing that killed Fahros entirely in the FFXIV community is the Ultimate drama where he was doing one of the fights in PF on stream then magically got his clear with a run seller off stream. He made a video defending himself but, it wasn't well received.
Fahros is such a joke and I am so glad you never joined his FC. I had a run of orbonne monastery as a healer and he demanded I rez him as priority over keeping the tank alive, myself and rezzing a fellow healer. I /laughed at him and rezzed healer, then RDM and said don't rez the deadbeat SAM. I was banned from his channel lol.
Oh wow, IRMaxi. The memories lol
@@jonstherock good move, he deserves to be left on the ground if he sucks so bad that he needs one to begin with.
I loved watching Pyromancer during his ffxiv playthrough through Shadowbringers, for the reasons this video goes into. It was my favorite for a season. I went back recently and it was actually painful how contentious it was. It was the opposite of fun. I'm sad for it.
As someone who struggled with anger issues for a long time, it comes from a place of self hatred. Lashing out at others, not wanting to admit fault, emotional instability, its all part of a sad, self loathing spiral. Pyro, and those like him are likely suffering just by being the way they are. My heart goes out to him.
I genuinely hope that one of these days Pyro gets himself some professional help for his anger issues. Its honestly just sad how he keeps blowing up at everyone around him trying to give him support.
iirc he did, several times
its just that for it to work he needs to put an actual effort in, which he does not
he should go back to scripted videos instead of streaming
@equalizer ya but in ffxiv lore channel does not work at all... look at all the lore channel we got... the amount of people activity looking for ffxiv lore video is not that high
@@FromHJH well thats becouse they are extremely boring and are just rehearsing the msq
pyro had good format with wow theorycrafting (altho he had massive ego about his theories but thats beside the point)
there is a void and he could fill it in in the way he did with wow, he was really good at it and scripted+edited video format would help a lot with his drama or atleast hide it from public and mitigate damage he is doing to himself
now i dont know if it would be profitable to do, especially after controversy after controversy but still
@@RenaShirow Yeah pretty much.
I've been playing Destiny since 2014 and in that community you oftentimes have people who dedicate themselves to the lore and such channels tend can do well enough for themselves (Myelin Games, My Name is Byf, etc etc) but that's because lore in Destiny is so... dense. The game just throws heaps upon heaps of lore books and lore tabs upon people and it's not something the player discovers organically through the video game medium. It's just... "here's a piece of armor with a story attached to it, go read it." As such, it's not uncommon for people to flock to those aforementioned lore channels for a sort of digest of the lore.
This kind of thing does not necessarily occur in XIV. Everything feels just much more readily accessible and a lot of the history and lore of the world is obtained in an organic matter by... well, playing the game.
@@JJMomoida Nice to see some fellow FF14 players who also play Destiny! 👀 Honestly couldn't agree more with what you've said here.
The problem with Pyro is he gets in his own way.
Something comes up in chat and he HAS to react and his streams suffer because of it.
Someone will make a comment & he will drop EVERYTHING just to rant about it, and then some people agree with the person, and he fucking piles on and on and on.
The best thing to do is just completely ignore that shit and let chat flow.
Left the Pyro support train when he started going on these unhinged rage moments on the daily and i just dont need that in my life.
Saw that he got involved in a couple of "dramas" but never really looked into it. But i decided to check his streamcharts today and holy shit.
This guy blew up the goldmine he had with his rage and lunacy.
Initial Thoughts 4mins in: Pyro had THE SETUP coming into the XIV sphere with him being a "Lore Nut" and I mean that as a compliment. It could of gone in so many directions, I even watched one of his XIV Lore Videos on RUclips(It was recent like a month ago) and I gotta say that was a really good video. But he has this tendency to shoot himself in the foot then dig a knife into the wound with his very public and loud freakouts and outta-pocket comments(most of which were directed right at his viewers or streamers live). That man is his own worst enemy, so the smartest move for him to do was delete their Twitter Account.
Edit: My OP still stands lol Also HOLY BEARD that thing had a presence of its own haha Amazing xP and that Slap Drama is pretty damn funny to revisit xD
I still can't believe the slap incident was a real thing 💀
no idea how pyro has a following, he is constantly crying.
Couldn't watch a single of his streams. After some time I felt emotionally overwhelmed (negatively) as if i was listening to trauma dumping.
I tried watching his stream once because I liked his MSQ reactions. Holy shit, it was the most toxic 15 minutes of my life. He was raging the whole time and I can't even remember why, some joke from chat or something.
@@animehbkscm All i remembered is when he blew up because some people in the chat told him that european bread is better than emerican ones. Sorta like a banter meme thing, and he lost his marbles.
@@extinctbaryonyx i always wanted ti try euro bread. Aparently my american bread is basically candy with how sweet it is.
Honestly Pyromancer was such a red flag from the beginning anyway.
He did the same shit over on WoW. Glad he's gone.
I was still following him. After hearing that shit about how it doesn't matter, I decided to take his advice and unfollow. lol
Ungrateful/entitled streamers are the worst, man. And it's not even correct.
People who follow but aren't subscribed are still helpful to the growth of a channel, anyone could understand that. lmao
There's so many ways in which followers matter, too. Ofc, in the first place, they're relevant for all sorts of algorithm related stuff, but even beyond that, being part of that community means people talk about and share his content with their friends, which might get hooked themselves that way, also, the community feeling from a lively chat is a big part of what makes the paying subscribers feel comfortable and less hesitant to continue to spend on him, and so on.
It's basically the same logic why F2P MMOs exist - the devs don't gain money from the players who don't pay, but their word of mouth, their slew of fanworks, their presences filling the world, etc. are very much relevant to making it a good experience for the ones who DO spend money.
Cao Cao quote: "Recognise and acknowledge your mistake, but never admit your mistake." This is the way
Ah I remember the Fahros slap, I remember talking to Yoojin on the subreddit after fahros was implying on stream that he was intentionally griefing the party, and then the retread the next day of "is just a joke guys". I'm glad that clown got so excised from the game all he did after was solo potd runs because nobody would party with him for anything.
Don't worry, he quite quickly irked the DD community to boot
At first I was like "Oh ok. Just couple emotes, sounds like he is having fun playing it up for the viewers, right?" And then he wrote a paragraph into chat that I've never seen outside of games like League of Legends, and then left the game. All of that over an emote. Like the fuck?
Feel like i went back 3 years to the "Its only 5 dollars" meme
I tuned into Pyro’s streams here and there around the time I was into binging FF14 stuff. I think what it came down to was his anger issues. Between long periods of note taking and passive aggressive (sometimes just aggressive) comments at his chat, his stream really was not a fun place to be.
As some would say, he really fumbled the bag. His anger was a double edged sword, people love when it was directed at public enemy #1 aka WoW 😂. But when it shifted to them, and then the passage of time, along with the degeneracy of chat…it was only a matter of time.
His choice to go all in wasn’t a bad one. But he should have adapted and changed, took streaming more seriously, its a story as old as time really.
I remember turning on pyro's stream back in ShB and it really took about 10 minutes for someone to correct him on a lore related thing and for him to start going on a huge tangent on why people are/could be wrong about a certain thing and it was strangely aggressive for someone who wasnt even halfway done with the expansion yet. Turned it off and unfollowed, haven't looked back since other than these xeno vids that i keep watching.
@@jeffcxx I'm convinced it was just a thinly disguised stalling tactic to get an extra month or two out of the MSQ.
You'll see him at FanFest. Let's see if he dares Xeems to say this to his face like he did some in WoW.
As for Fahros? Nobody on stream could tell someone emoted on him from across a room. He outed it himself and made his peepee look small at all once.
Dude i love the use of the mic arm squeaking as a bleep for the curse words
He was still averaging 1-1.5k even after the msq until he attacked his viewers/the community the first time. Each time he goes off he loses viewers.
bro the way the censor squeak is absolutely hilarious
Love it
It's sad because Pyro when he's not losing it he's pretty entertaining, I've enjoyed his story analysis on top of his WoW lore stuff. But his ego gets the best of him way too easily and becomes self destructive real quick. I've tried giving him multiple chances as a casual viewer (as silly and dramatic as that sounds) but his tantrums are just too bizarre and disrespectful. His mods don't help either, he just surrounds himself with yes-men that feed into the hug-box. And I don't even mean to call him a "snowflake" but it's true, the stuff he argues with his chat about is absolutely bizarre.
I remember one time he realized his walking speed was bound to "end" his chat. Chat then started making "Endwalker Pog" jokes. Mods went nuclear on it for some reason, claiming people were sharing spoilers. Pyro took their side despite people explaining that they were just making a joke, just banning everyone who was trying to say things and eventually going into that "If you don't want to watch we don't want you here anyway" type rant. So bizarre when if he just listened to what people were saying all of it could have been laughed off and avoided.
he acts like a lib feminists and they all got one thing in common. They on meds for mental issues and cannot "read" social cues. Don't really care what it is. Whether its autism, anger, etc, he is a walking red flag.
Your point is exactly the crux of it. Ever made some raunchy sex joke that you would tell your friends, that you thought was benign to a woke women who you thought you were friends with? Then next day, you get called into HR, fired from your job and blacklisted. She turned something you did not know was that serious into something very serious.
That is the same level of extreme overreaction that envelopes pyro. And he will justify it by telling you that making raunchy sex jokes is not appropriate and denigrating, etc. Some woke reasoning to guilt/shame you, calls you names and that you should grow up. Then when you fight back because that is what one does in conflict, he proceeds to ban/silence you.
This is the reaction of someone with mental issues.
Xenos says he acts like a crazy Ex... exactly.
Reason why Pyro thinks he has "woke" or "based" takes is bc he thinks he's some high iq intellectual or just think's he's obligated to something that he isn't no ones obligated to sub or donate to anyone
People like Pyro choose to think everyone dislikes what they have to say because it's "woke" or a hot take, when in reality most of what they have to say is just stupid.
No way people are this bored before savage drops Tuesday…
all ff has is raiding zz
@@veppy4952 and even that's starting to become stale(at least on the Savage front)
The slap guy is a great example of being terminaly online, gaming is fun but always remember to go outside and be socially active, lmao...
The Fahros slap drama inspired my Edens Gate static's name
I'll always remember you, Team Slap Emote
I really appreciate how level headed xenos can be. A lot of the time he's more like a radio host than an "Influencer", and that's a good thing.
I subbed to pyro for a few months back when he was still early before I knew much about them. Can't remember the exact interaction that flipped my perspective on him but it was somewhere around HW-SB where he would react to the smallest things in chat with just the shittiest manner. which he would then constantly go on about how he's sick of his attitude (even made a video about it) but would eventually just do it all again.
I'm seeing it a lot in the comments, but yea had a similar experience with pyro on stream. Genuinely loved his journey through the game and watched him even after some of the low moments, but he did have these explosive moments of arguing with chat and letting some things really get to him. I know 1st hand how rough twitch chat can be towards streamers and other chatters too but you gotta manage the best you can, especially maintaining the public image as a streamer
I just found out that the vods of his twitch channel are locked behind a subscription, I didn't know this was a thing until now.
He did that with the lala chair thing. When he apologized yet again and spoke about how he would try to make outbursts/issues less prevalent. He's aware of the people who try to bait him into an argument and part of it was to stop people from trying to get clips or take him out of context or something idk
Clearly he's still having issues so 🤷🏾♀️
Seems like an excuse to put a paywall. Noone with ill intent will be stopped by a sub price / twitch prime.
He's just scaring off new viewers seeing his twitch page looking like an EA game
I want Pyro to be successful because when he's good, he's good, but when he's bad, he's bad and plummets. I hope he gets through the issues he's facing. Mental health stuff can really be horrible to deal with on the inside compared to what people see looking in.
But this isn't a new thing. He says he has been seeking help with it, but it just never stops, it's just one drama blowup after another and everytime he says oh it's gonna be different from now on, but it never is.
From what WoW players said, this is not even something that only started with XIV either. Maybe at some point he should just accept that some people are just not cut out for streaming due to its unfiltered, immediate nature.
After all, I really enjoy his regular videos, where he had the time and distance to really think through what he wants to say and how to say it.
@@sleepysera "Maybe at some point he should just accept that some people are just not cut out for streaming due to its unfiltered, immediate nature.
he has already curated his discord and chat with essentially snowflakes. People who think the same way he does and have the same mental issues. By doing this however, his channel will never grow as he has restricted and created very specific and strict rules to his discord. What not to do, what not to say. eg. If your using microphone and you do not talk, then your taking up space and banned. He has regulated speech heavily in both discord and twitch. Its a liberals form of control.
He turned his twitch/discord into a filtered echo chamber.
Xeno I wanted to chime in. I may not always agree with you, and I think you can be blunt and abrasive sometimes. However, I know you are genuine. I don't have to worry about you having some truly dumb outbursts. That's why I'll always supprt you. You are consistent, you are entertaining, you are knowlegable, and you know who you are. Keep up the good work man.
oh look, pyro drama
again
what a shock
this is my shocked face
I gotta say, the censor sound effect is literally the best thing ever! This editor needs a raise ASAP.
I fucked up. I went afk and my portrait wasnt resaved because I extracted materia and Xenos saw me.
If it was really a joke, he would have immediately unblacklisted him and added him back, but I watched that stream and he did no such thing, it was only after the backlash that he unblacklisted the guy and tried to talk to him.
As someone who had followed him for awhile, back early in the WoW content he made, can't say I'm too surprised. Dude has always kind of had incredibly short fuse, I can't say I hate the guy or don't like him, in fact I genuinely enjoyed his content. But I think he needs to take some time to reflect on himself or even step away from it all for some time for his own health, really wish the best for him.
Was gonna post something incredibly similar to this. Followed him back at the end of wod for his lock guides and stayed around for his lore speculation and shit, haven't followed much of his ff14 journey aside from a few times since I genuinely don't care about anything besides ff14 raiding.
after the lalafel chair drama, he said he was taking 2 weeks off to reflect and then he got a bunch of donations to keep him afloat during that time off but he didnt seem to learn anything from that.
RUclips videos suited him better. It was obvious that he had anger issues to anyone paying attention even back then, but at lead all the time spent rendering at uploading a video gave him a lot of time to reflect before releasing something, and helped minimize the damage of this self destructive bs.
I enjoy his content too, but he really doesn't learn a damn thing from his mistakes. He's said he's stepping away or going to start going to therapy several times since he's come to FFXIV. Yet, if he's done those things, he hasn't improved. He still has some crazy anger issues. I'm just not gonna watch his live stuff. If he makes youtube videos, I'll watch them, but that's the extent of his content I'll consume.
@@normalmighty I realized the reason I enjoyed his videos more than his streams was because with his videos he wasn't interacting with other human beings. Seemed to suit him far better. Lol.
Latin American player: *makes a big effort to pay the game*
Streamer: if you don't give me dollars you're useless for me
We live in a society...
Pyro purposefully put twitch ads at big MSQ moments to get people to subscribe(it was around 83 in the Endwalker MSQ I think when he admitted it). Yeah I understand why he did that but it's still a dick move haha
It’s for the best. When I was a sprout I was immediately told to avoid his content and over time I understood why. I’ve never spoken ill about pyro but I liked a critical tweet from his fan during the chair drama and pyro blocked me lol. So immature and can’t take criticism
He deserves to lose his streaming career. He doesn't deserve to have loyal supporters. The consumer MAKES your brand. And as soon as you turn on them, your dream ends
Pyro has zero emotional regulation and he'll never seek help for it because he thinks he's the biggest cock in the coop and that any friction he experiences in life is someone else's fault. Maybe if everyone stopped paying attention to him he'd be forced to confront reality but people love staring at a trainwreck. Expect him to get worse and worse and just keep hurting everyone around him.
I just love the "You realize you're the problem with outrage culture..." tweeted by a guy who kicked someone out of the party for a slap emote.
I've enjoyed basically all MSQ and lore-related content Pyro's made. I like his takes on story stuff and he has some really good ideas. That said, he's a ticking timebomb and it's hard to watch him live or even his vods because you never know when something is gonna set him off. He's got an ego that prevents him from considering other viewpoints and has a serious entitlement complex because of the fact he's a streamer. His comment about followers not contributing (which is insulting on top of being blatantly false) just makes me not want to watch him ever again.
He could be doing great lore content!
Someone messed things up worse than Pyromancer? Oh, do tell....
Until I saw this video, I'd never even heard of this Fahros dude.
I remember doing "/em slaps you" in Eureka Anemos as a joke and I got like 10 /tells from random people asking me why I would slap them, good times >_
I once had a guildmate that claimed to be a friend of Pyromancer. They were someone that seemed pretty open and friendly at first, and some of us even thought that association was kind of cool. As time went on, however, the person revealed themselves to be really condescending, holding their opinion way above everyone else, and behaved in a way that broke down friendly social dynamics when they were around.
To hear Pyromancer is not unlike that is disappointing, but considering the company they keep, it does not surprise me at all.
I hope he takes steps to learn impulse control and starts taking care of himself. Pyro doesnt seem to be doing well and i hope he doesnt get dogpiled to oblivion. Ppl shouldnt forget guys like etika and reckful.
he really needs some serious IRL help. needs to pretty much disconnect from the internet, take a step back. cherish the things he has in life, and learn that all his outbursts are doing nothing for his mental health, and only serve to have him corner himself into a dangerous mindset. he's too emotionally attached to every little thing. only reason Xenos' outbursts work is because at the end of the day everyone knows its just the loud grumblings of an annoyed bald man who really just doesnt give a fuck in the first place.
Im super pumped to watch your prog this tier, since im not progging. itll help time go by while i gather and craft before SF6 drops.
I'm halfway convinced that Pyro's note taking isn't real and that he's doing that to stall for time. Why else would he refuse to sell copies?
All he does is copy dialogue word for word anyways
Mans trying too hard to be a loremaster for ffxiv
Bro doesnt know the wiki exists
You don't even need notes for FFXIV either, the game isn't cryptic or full of retcons, you get the whole picture told to you multiple times just by playing... it's like taking notes on Dora the Explorer.
How Pyro can spend literally a half hour jotting down shit Urianger says is beyond my comprehension.
The world is a better place without Pyro streaming. Seriously, been to his stream like 5 or so times and EVERY time he was fucking yelling and going off the deep end.
I remember in one of Pyro's stream when he was still learning Black Mage someone corrected him when he made an error on something pertaining to black mage. He got absurdly angered and mad that he was not all knowing on a class that he was new to compared to some players in his chat who have known for YEARS!
It just became so hard to watch his content after this kept happening over and over😮💨
I could tell he was a low quality person and had personality disorders the first stream I watched of him. You can tell in the things he says and the way he acts to others and to situations. I think a lot of people on twitch just aren't good at reading other people. Sometimes it's not that obvious, but this is one of the times it's very obvious. Like Destiny. Sometimes it's just obvious, but people don't see it.
What happened with destiny ? OOTL here :o
Damn Pyro fits in so well with the ff14 community
Ikr? Constant melties and seething, he's a perfect US player.
@@Scaevola9449 He definitely fits right in with the other degenerates in the FFXIV Forums.
The FF14 community drama is hilarious. Other games have creators get cancelled over really serious shit, and in FF14 it's a slap emote that does it.
Pyro is Pyro's worst enemy
The microphpme adjusting sound effect to censor is absolute genius
ohh Fahros that guy, I remember watching him do Deep Dungeon solo runs for the titles, I didnt know he was that kind of person😬
Him deleting his twitter is the best thing he could do for his mental, twitter is a cesspool tbh.
He's part of that cesspool you know ? He literally IS the cesspool itself, and one of the biggest contributors to it on twitter.
@@Lunamana You're wild to think he's one of the biggest contributors to it when there's actual racists, xyz-phobes, and terrorists on twitter. I get you don't like the guy for good reason but god damn have some fucking perspective.
you need to do a background on pyro, cause he constantly is having mental breakdowns
@@puppetstudio4989 no i do not, him being away from twitter is a good thing regardless of his "background".
@@Lunamana he's a small content creator, stop being dramatic.
Pyro's got some screws loose man holy
/slap is the gift that keeps on giving. Last time it was Fahros and he fell off so hard that im not even sure he plays 14 anymore
We don't need to become a successful streamer to know that pyro is a mess and full of emotions. He is definitely an enthusiast for lore and he will probably have better mental health if he reduce his streaming time and make more videos on youtube
as soon as I saw this video I said, "oh fucking what now with this guy?" It's the same old fucking cycle.
i used to watch Pyro when he played WoW, and after he went to FF14... and he blew up, man started losing reality...
Yeah he's never going to change. We'll be back here in a month or two with the next edition.
At this rate Xeno can become a react to pyro's recent meltdown strummer.
"Whatever Asmon touches is gold" thats a reach but that also a bar lol 🔥
Well for a time it was true. Idk about now, I don’t pay attention to stuff like that anymore, but I faintly remember his large following regardless of what he played.
Some old FC members of mine raided UwU with Fahros and they described him to be "hard to work with" and drama started when Fahros demanded that they delete certain twitch clips
Censoring with the mic arm squeaks is inspired editing.
He's trying to pin all this shit on ADHD not realizing that none of his problems are related to ADHD. ADHD is an attention deficit disorder with potentially hyperactivity. It relates to your attention span and attentiveness. It does not cause the emotional issues that he's pinning on it. ADHD is one of the most common disorders on the planet and he's using it thinking he can blame all his qualms on it, as if we can't fact-check it in less than 2 minutes to see that he's wrong. He even says that it's only started since FFXIV, but even the WoW community came in to go "that's a fucking lie".
"you gifted him a tier 3 sub" I'm fucking dying, lol
Sadly a lot of WoW streamers left once the MSQ ended cause, low views withouth understanding that they have to build up their comunity, just how they did with WoW. Like, dude, you played the game for an year and on your previous you have been there for like 10 years. Its not the game that viewes see, is the entratainment of the streamer.
You know that this WoW streamers that returned are currently doing? Nothing, walking, killing mobs, doing raids? How is that fun? How is that diferent than ffxiv? Nothing, is the entratainment, this ppl really didnt game the chanse and their excuse were the numbers.
I mean lets not beat around the bush, ff14 viewer count as a whole is incredibly low compared to many other games including WoW itself.
@@veppy4952 Your speaking of a game that is 10 years older and much more known, please tell me what wow does different and how is related to the game itself and not the streamer.
The reason thoese stream succed is no diferent than what Xenosys Vex does.
that little lala made him ragequit with a slap emote AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!
HOW CAN HE SLAP?!
HOW CAN HE SLAP?!
Wierdest thing to me is he talks about how people should'nt be toxic and promotes positivity and then gets one guy'd and snaps into an extremely toxic person.
He's claiming that by responding to his public statement tweets you're profiting from his mental illness. The victimhood mental gymnastics are NUTS
Pyro is so self destructive. Streaming is seriously not a healthy career for him. Saying that people who don’t sub don’t add any value to your stream is basically career suicide. How tf do you think you grow? You attract new people and if they like your content enough and they can afford it maybe they will support more directly through subbing.
Seriously though. Pyro needs to find a new career.
You can make a career streaming 14, but you gotta be seriously entertaining to do so which Pyro is not.
PS: that walk back by Fahros has gotta go in a top 10 most painfully obvious walk backs of all time.
Man. Okay, so being on the spectrum myself and struggling with some ADHD like issues I did empathize with Pyro and part of me still does, but damn my man's imploding like crazy.
Fuck him man, he don't know you or care about you. Having ADHD or ASD doesn't excuse shitty behaviour in adults. Many people have autism and are the nicest people ever. Infact I have a friend who has asberges and he is the coolest most nicest guy in the world. Fuck pyro. I bet you are 100x nicer than him! I can understand why you would empathise with him but it's wasted on someone like that lol. Autism is technically a super power anyways so your good bro.
The ending bit with the squeeky mic bleeps got me 😂
By the looks of it, Pyro is pretty much an adult that never truly matured emotionally... He's insanely unstable in that regard, and that usually leads to his infamous "Rants", which are more like tantrums.
Like Xeno said... It would be much better for both Pyro and the FF14 community if he just stopped streaming altogether, because clearly the dude is not emotionally built for it.
And quite frankly... very few people are built for such a job. Being a public figure can be incredibly draining psychologically, you are NOT allowed to make mistakes, or else you'll get socially crucified, sometimes by your very own community. You also HAVE to learn how to cope with the abuse people will throw your way, because if you don't... Well, you get cases like Pyro.
We learn so much about human nature through these drama videos
that Within the Ruins in the clip though made it so good
Grinding Gear is a great example of how to stream this game. You come for the MSQ but you stay for the bromance.