The Lloyd Evans Scandal: The Aftermath

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @judithrivera6399
    @judithrivera6399 Год назад +54

    Lloyd I don't know much about this trash talk, what I do know is that your channel was one key factor in my waking up process and I am so so very grateful for your work and your content. I am not one to comment much but I felt an obligation because your work was golden in my process. I hope that you will take this time to heal from hateful attacks towards you, you have awesome positive energy and no one deserves to rob you of sharing that with the world❤

    • @mandick7
      @mandick7 5 месяцев назад

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  • @beautyRest1
    @beautyRest1 Год назад +115

    I don’t like certain exjw that just rant in other peoples private business and who knows what they are doing secretly! Keep going Lloyd! We need you!

    • @Theinfamouskiki411
      @Theinfamouskiki411 Год назад +16

      Sadly but not shockingly I've cussed many out online! I've been worldly for over 20 years now so I have no patience for the uptight so called gatekeepers in the exjw community!!

    • @der1222
      @der1222 5 месяцев назад

      @@Theinfamouskiki411 when people leave JW only for them to join an even cringier and more controlling group

  • @RobinKLarsen
    @RobinKLarsen 10 месяцев назад +5

    The attack on your reputation, is reminiscent of Scientology. I want to thank you for exposing the Cult that once held me captive for over 32 years.

  • @ComeUnaFarfallaLibera
    @ComeUnaFarfallaLibera Год назад +26

    Dear Lloyd, even if I'm not personally an Ex JW nor is such any of my family members or close acquaintances but I'm still here for a personal interest in the matter and your soothing voice so relaxing after hours of work. Recognizing the importance of what you've done so far and hopefully will continue doing in any form, wish you all the best!

  • @milordlouis-jeune1567
    @milordlouis-jeune1567 Год назад +31

    Be strong and keep fighting the haters. You are a good man. You helped a lot of people find clarity and peace of mind. For that, the world is a better t place today. Be proud of your accomplishments.

  • @adobahbotchway
    @adobahbotchway Год назад +16

    "Lloyd, we love you for assisting thousands, including me, in escaping from the JW cult. All we want to say is, THANK YOU.

  • @susangflowers7180
    @susangflowers7180 Год назад +100

    I have never been on the Anti-Lloyd train and never will be. ‘Let he that has no sin, cast the first stone.’ You helped me greatly after I left the cult. As you noted, those causing the trouble are still acting as if they were still in the cult. The purpose is to expose the cult and not ex-members and perhaps those who choose defamation should re-evaluate their motives. We will sincerely miss Tibor, best of luck to you. And Lloyd, we love you!

    • @bxtr14
      @bxtr14 Год назад +10

      Exactly! Well said

    • @DietlindeJanssen
      @DietlindeJanssen Год назад +10

      Well said ! I owe Lloyd my freedom! Sad some exjw can be so cruel ..we all are in the same boat..should helped and support each other. We love Lloyd here! ❤

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 Год назад +7

      True, his videos helped me so much in the beginning of my waking up process. The logical explanations was what and how I needed to hear the TATT. It’s so sad to me that it’s not watchtower, but the exjw community that causes him these problems. Watchtower is probably laughing , because they just stand there watching, while we doing their bidding.

    • @incognito_JW
      @incognito_JW Год назад +2

      I think there are 3 camps of people on this issue with Lloyd. Camp 1 folks are like you - you're not judging Lloyd on the actual mistakes, everyone makes mistakes. Camp 2 are the people who are materially bothered by the underlying cause of Lloyds actions. Camp 3 - which I believe is the largest camp - are the people who are less concerned with what Lloyd materially did to cause this, and more concerned with how Lloyd handled himself after-the-fact....and continues to act. Whereas I think its objectively true Lloyd hurt his wife...that is his private business. However, it was made public, and I personally am in Camp 3 where I think Lloyd really reacted badly thereafter.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd Год назад +2

      ​@@incognito_JWnobody cares! Bye🙋

  • @giantredstar162
    @giantredstar162 Год назад +91

    Just wanna thank you Lloyd for your activisms and dedication throughout the years in regards of exposing jw's cult, their doctrines and leaders. You very much helped me escaping this poisonous cult. Please keep sharing your thoughts and points of view from this platform, no matter what the horde of disgusting elements might have to say about you. Your work is really appreciated, I can guarantee you that 💪🏻

  • @vivianlundahl3829
    @vivianlundahl3829 Год назад +40

    Dear, dear Lloyd, it is those who have attacked you that I have lost respect for - not you. I left the JWorg about 6 years ago and I frequently watched videos from many other activists, but it was you that helped me the most by far. I don't even know if I would still be alive if not for you and your channel. I have always loved the fair, honest and balanced way that you presented the information, as a opposed to those who were crude or angry in their delivery of information. You gained my trust and respect from the first time I saw your videos. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you have done, and I am so saddened and dismayed that people would waste their time on attacking a fellow ex-JW rather than focusing on the real culprit which is the JW cult that has wrecked so much havoc in their lives. I can't even grasp why ex-JWs would want to turn on one another. Like an old song says "Together we stand, divided we fall". Take care of yourself, dear Lloyd. Sending you hugs, love and gratitude.

    • @Eric_01
      @Eric_01 Год назад +8

      Very nice sentiments.
      Just to throw in two cents on "why", I think it's all just part of being damaged, angry, disillusioned, and if shunned, still very much in pain. Then, once you add into the mix the competition of clicks and likes, things just go haywire and a LOT of these channels are only existing to whine and complain from their cars. They're not doing research and trying educate on anything. Just dismiss them. That someone is an exJW just isn't enough of a common ground to overcome so many personalities and motivations.

    • @loriw2661
      @loriw2661 Год назад +2

      Beautifully expressed! As to why…jealousy & damaged JW brains.

  • @MJBsays
    @MJBsays Год назад +83

    Tibor and that "if Tibor is gracious" line will be missed. Thank you Tibor for all the work you did in this channel.
    Secondly, Lloyd, I have no doubts in my mind that you'll do well in whichever work you decide to take on. I fully understand the decision, and even if there hadn't been the hate campaign, dealing full-time with something such as a cult it's tolling on mental health, so always expected it'd end eventually.
    But as you said, the archive created in these past 12 years will always remain of help to those looking to research the WT. Thank you for all you've done Lloyd.

    • @joe-g4j7d
      @joe-g4j7d Год назад

      I’m sure he’s glad to get alway from this loser

  • @Violetismyrealname
    @Violetismyrealname Год назад +16

    Lloyd, your channel helped me to become brave enough to question my indoctrination when I was pregnant with my first child and a few years later I shared your channel with my sister and she also shed the JW belief system. I hope that you continue to heal, enjoy good times in your life and help so many people through your work.

  • @PonceAgatas
    @PonceAgatas Год назад +18

    When I was young my mother said to me. Let people talk about you. Pay them no attention. Whether it's true or false. It doesn't matter. The reason they talk about you is because their life is sad and miserable. Nothing makes them happier than to take you down in their misery. Thanks to you, the JW no longer knock at my door. Continue the good work until it's physically impossible to do so.

    • @dianacryder7523
      @dianacryder7523 Год назад +1

      Hi Frank. Quick question. I'm always looking for exJWs I once serve timed with that left the Borg. Did you ever live in Oregon and were you once married to Libby Diaz?

    • @PonceAgatas
      @PonceAgatas Год назад +2

      @dianacryder7523 HI. No, I don't know libby. I never lived in oregon.

    • @dianacryder7523
      @dianacryder7523 Год назад +1

      @@PonceAgatas Okay. Thanks!

  • @veronicaduncan6455
    @veronicaduncan6455 Год назад +76

    JWfacts woke me up 10 years ago. I've never cared about hatemongers, got enough of those inside the cult. Sorry for all the crap you and Tibor went through. You are tough to have kept going despite all of it. Thank you for your channel, always.

  • @presentmoment22
    @presentmoment22 Год назад +13

    Thank you for helping me and so many others. The reality of my life is, I was born into a cult. I didn’t realize that even after being out for over 20 years. I had one of your videos playing and something clicked in my mind. I stood up in my office and said out loud, “I was raised in a cult!” It was rotating the focus ring on a camera and things became very sharp indeed. So, thanks mate. I wish you all the best.

  • @LoXena
    @LoXena Год назад +48

    That's crazy, all those people acting high and mighty as if they never made mistakes. Now they invent scenarios get angry about it.
    I hope you will see the end of it very soon.

  • @javerymann1540
    @javerymann1540 Год назад +106

    Lloyd, sorry to hear that the Tibor era has come to an end. I’m sure you don’t need us to tell you how valuable your efforts have been for the community (whether they all appreciate you or not). Thank you for doing what you do.

  • @izabelarivera5211
    @izabelarivera5211 Год назад +10

    This is so sad. I am gutted! Please take good care of yourself and your family. Your content was crucial to my waking up so I will be forever grateful.

  • @ramrod576
    @ramrod576 Год назад +9

    Whoever started this whole mess did no one any favors. Should be us vs watchtower. Not us vs each other. We are on the same side!

  • @Vicki_Benji
    @Vicki_Benji Год назад +46

    Some people have nothing better to do than bother others. It's sickening. These people need to worry about their own lives. Any Ex JW doing this needs to stop. I hope you are able to hold them all accountable, Lloyd.

  • @brokeschlo8274
    @brokeschlo8274 Год назад +62

    We’ll miss you Tibor!!! The banter shared between you and mr. evans has been fun to watch and I agree, your impact is lasting in a positive way.

  • @chilliems
    @chilliems Год назад +40

    I’m a never JW who developed a big interest in it due to your videos. I will really miss the content, thank you for producing it and good luck with wherever life takes you. I’m sorry you’ve been through this, we are all flawed and you didn’t deserve it.

  • @a_l_l_i_s_o_n__
    @a_l_l_i_s_o_n__ Год назад +13

    To be honest, when the exjw community came out to tell about a “scandal” I was a little cautious but honestly your personal life is not my business and I continue to support you. When I commented on Twitter, people would DM me to watch videos that shows the “truth” about you. And it was so absurd how much hatred was stirred up. What people do with money they EARN is their business. Your personal life is PERSONAL. Lloyd, you opened my eyes and showed me the truth about the truth and saved my life. I’m sorry you’re going through this but I’m still a supporter and will continue to be. You have great content. I’m sorry for this bump in the road. May the force be with you.

  • @inaconder6289
    @inaconder6289 Год назад +5

    Lloyd, I look forward to all your future videos. Thank you for all the work you've done and will continue to do. You have always helped me and you are so appreciated. Thank You!!!!

  • @classicalgasemission
    @classicalgasemission Год назад +20

    I'm so sorry you have to go through all this crap, Lloyd. Back when I started working on de-brainwashing myself, I found the "famous" ex-JW forum and spent some time on there. I was actually somewhat appauled at how many of the ex-jws on that forum treated newcomers who were either genuine JWs or those who were doubting. I eventually left the forum due to it's leader and some of the awful ex-JWs on there. Finding your youtube channel was a breath of fresh air. I thought, "Finally! An Ex-JW who can set a good example of how to treat other JWs and doubters!" You've paved a worthy path on helping people out of the cult. Regardless of what others say, you've done excellent work and I hope one day that I can shake your hand and thank you. At the very least, I would welcome an on-camera interview on my experience (perhaps when my JW mother passes in the somewhat near future). There's lots I'd love to write, but I don't need to be filling this comment box. All I can do is wish you the best on your future endeavors. And to those who wish to continue harassing Lloyd, my promiscuous past would probably make Lloyd look like a saint, so feel free to harass me instead :)

  • @danielmatthews8080
    @danielmatthews8080 Год назад +27

    This is disappointing… you helped me wake up and saved my and my children’s future lives from so much cult heart ache….
    Your private life is your business and I’d like to continue to benefit from your input on JW’s. Chin up Lloyd 🤜🏻🤛🏻

    • @Chris-zh1ff
      @Chris-zh1ff 11 месяцев назад

      This guys an apostate bro come back Jehovah loves yuoxxxx

  • @ricklee7732
    @ricklee7732 Год назад +184

    I honestly don't understand the level of hate leveled at Lloyd. I've unsubscribed from so many other ex-jw youtubers because their weird personal attacks.

    • @greatdayn4651
      @greatdayn4651 Год назад +34

      Agreed. I took the opportunity last year to unsubscribe to all the toxic ex-jw channels. It was almost like escaping from the jw cult all over again; very freeing.

    • @angel22893
      @angel22893 Год назад +35

      Me too, I haven't watched any of these hateful videos. Tbh Lloyd's personal life is none of my business. I watch his videos for the insights into watchtower, and to keep up with the rubbish they are spewing..

    • @KitKatSukiKat
      @KitKatSukiKat Год назад

      @@angel22893 💯

    • @ld-zj1bn
      @ld-zj1bn Год назад +23

      They are like children who can't do without the gossipy background they come from.

    • @Classicretro2023
      @Classicretro2023 Год назад +18

      Jealousy..Pure and simple

  • @hyp77
    @hyp77 Год назад +94

    It would be good if everyone, exjw and others, could let private life be private. I know who you mean. You have been and are vital to this community.

    • @KitKatSukiKat
      @KitKatSukiKat Год назад +6

      💯 Yesssss!!!!!

    • @b4ph0m3tdk9
      @b4ph0m3tdk9 Год назад +4

      True that!

    • @-Zer0Dark-
      @-Zer0Dark- Год назад +2

      Particularly when their own scandals have come to light in the past year or so.

  • @est_elle_w4571
    @est_elle_w4571 Год назад +24

    I'm sorry to hear about this abuse and how it has affected you. I was unaware that this happened and it's no wonder you need a break. I found your channel quite by accident last year precisely when I needed it most. My JW mother who hadn't spoken to me for 14 years told me she loved me on her deathbed. Of course there is a myriad of pain and confusion that comes with having to deal with anything JW even after many years. Thank you for helping me when I needed it most. I am happy to continue to support you in the small way I do even if your content changes.

  • @apostateturtle1960
    @apostateturtle1960 Год назад +17

    It is so hard coming out of a cult. Every time I think I'm recovered and I don't have PTSD anymore, it turns out that I still do. So sorry that people are taking advantage of your being a person like all the rest of us

  • @alyssawoodman
    @alyssawoodman Год назад +10

    Thank you for everything you have done Lloyd and you too Tibor. You both were a monumental support to me while I was in the process of waking up. I will never forget what your videos did for me and how they helped me work through what was happening in my mind at that time ❤ It was very touch and go for awhile and at my darkest points you guys were always there making me smile and soothing me with your mutual understanding of this dangerous cult. I will be forever grateful ❤

  • @23Peder23
    @23Peder23 Год назад +13

    Dear Lloyd, your words saved lives in so many ways... Don't let stupid, angry and embittered morons win this fight, no matter how long it takes.
    I, and so many other people out there, thank you for all your work, your words and for the struggles you fought and might have to fight in the future. Keep your head up high - you can be so proud on what you've reached and achieved!

  • @barrymorrison8013
    @barrymorrison8013 Год назад +14

    Have always liked and supported your content. That's not about to change. Thank you for all of your effort. Take care of yourself and good luck for whatever is in the future. Stay safe and be well.

  • @bevbranje3045
    @bevbranje3045 Год назад +22

    Love your work Lloyd. Im sorry you have all this nonsense to deal with. Please hold your head high and continue. You are the BEST exjw activist/ channel etc. Cheers😊

  • @katew.9402
    @katew.9402 Год назад +20

    Hi Lloyd, I'm sorry to hear your situation is still so difficult! Yours is my favourite ex JW channel by far: your videos are well researched, your presentation style is clear and logical, you are great at showing up the fallacies of JW doctrine. Your private life is yours alone, and I've never believed for a minute that you engaged in any criminal activity. The videos these other people have put out are muckraking of the worst type, really. I wish you all the best, and Tibor as well!

  • @marshamacmillan
    @marshamacmillan Год назад +23

    I stayed when all of that happened last year, Lloyd. I understand making mistakes and unfair judgement. I understand being human. Keep on with the good fight!

    • @gav48
      @gav48 Год назад +4

      What happened? What did I miss? Why is everyone judging him?

    • @marshamacmillan
      @marshamacmillan Год назад +5

      @@gav48 Last year, Lloyd confided in who he thought was a friend he could trust that he had relations outside his marriage and was feeling regret. The friend promptly put him on blast and all these people ran with it.

  • @Gingergurl61
    @Gingergurl61 Год назад +69

    So sad. Thank you Lloyd for all you have done for me and others!

  • @hootal379
    @hootal379 Год назад +77

    What a shame! Lloyd's content has been the best, clearly explaining doctrinal errors and presenting accurate history of the JW movement. By far the most thoughtful and articulate person exposing the falsehood and hyprocracy of the organization. Truly sorry about the villianzination his character over the quality of his content.😢😢😢

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 Год назад +1

      Totally agree!!!! These haters don’t understand that they are playing right in to watchtowers hands! Wouldn’t it be wonderful if ALL exjw would be United in the same goal?! We would be more powerful!!

  • @moniquedelaney7958
    @moniquedelaney7958 Год назад +20

    I will miss Tibor . I will keep following you despite the fact that some of your detractors are much stronger than you in one area ; Vulgarity is their most memorable particularity .
    You, Lloyd , keep up the good work and take good care . 😊

  • @traci105
    @traci105 Год назад +12

    Your channel has saved ME and my mental health. I have to occasionally unsubscribe and cancel my patreon whenever I go back home to visit because I don't want my family knowing I watch ex jw content, but, when I feel it's safe again, I do re-subscribe and re-join your patreon. I watch your videos to always stay one step ahead of whatever wicked rhetoric the jw's are feeding my family. The channel educates me and gives me confidence with always having to remind my family on why I will never ever go back, whenever they endlessly preach to me and not respect my boundaries. It's never ending and Lloyd, I appreciate you so much. Take care, buddy...

  • @elizabethyoung4900
    @elizabethyoung4900 Год назад +9

    Lloyd, your channel was the first i came across when i was questioning what i was learning/being told during my "bible" study. I admit I was disappointed when the proverbial hit but as far as I'm concerned your private life is nothing to do with me or anyone else. It doesn't affect the value of the information you provide. I have continued to watch and always found the content interesting, helpful and very informative. It has been instrumental in my decision to stop my study.....i just have to figure out how to tell my fleshy sister who's been a JW for almost 40 years. Your podcasts, rebuttals and discussions have been invaluable. Tibor was always gracious and will be missed. Thank you for everything. I wish you well and look forward to watching you in the future. 😊

  • @danielturner4724
    @danielturner4724 Год назад +10

    Your channel was the only main channel I watched whilst leaving and dealing with the trauma of the cult, and I still occasional watch your content for how fair, logical and great it is, a massive help in my therapy, I am gutted thus has happened to you and wish you the greatest success in what ever you do next.

  • @jameswalberg3265
    @jameswalberg3265 Год назад +12

    Lloyd, you are an inspiration. I am so sorry you are experiencing this horrific abuse from these internet trolls. I am very glad that you are fighting it and will make these haters accountable. I mostly watch post-Mormon and post-Scientology RUclips channels and what you are experiencing is very common. The only difference is that you are doing it alone which makes it much much tougher. Wishing you all the best.

  • @michaelabsher5746
    @michaelabsher5746 Год назад +27

    You’re the GOAT, Lloyd. It’s a shame that less skilled competitors are reduced to personal attacks, but that’s also a testament to their inferiority

  • @gem1819
    @gem1819 Год назад +31

    As a viewer who has only benefited from this channel, of course I was disappointed when I learned what Lloyd had done but that never changed my support for the channel/work. I will admit I had a hard time watching after the break only because RUclips no longer offered videos from this channel, I had to go out of my way to find them. Regardless, I appreciate the work you do

  • @RB-lr7dm
    @RB-lr7dm Год назад +18

    I'm so sorry Lloyd, we all know how gracious Tibor is! And you are. I had no knowledge of JWs until I started watching you and I will keep with you for the next era. And I will keep watching your convention rebuttals for years to come. Good luck Lloyd. I think you're well out of it.

  • @slantblant1
    @slantblant1 Год назад +15

    I can be the first to admit that when the scandal came out I briefly (maybe like for a month) stopped watching your videos due to what others were saying. Then I realized that’s exactly how we operated as JWs. We allowed the opinions of others to govern how we lived and interacted with others. I didn’t want to fall into that again especially after not hearing you out (another common behavior of JWs). So here I am firstly to apologize for that. I apologize for briefly not hearing your side. The second thing I wanted to say is I love to see you defending yourself. Everything will work out, take care.

  • @jvdoe9714
    @jvdoe9714 Год назад +24

    Wow NO more rebuttals??? That’s what makes you channel so worth coming back to because your incite helps those who JUST came out WITHOUT a bunch of jokes that older ones wouldn’t understand. PLEASE RECONSIDER your decision to not do rebuttals…at least do the monthly broadcast or just the conventions !!😢

    • @ashleycantrell9844
      @ashleycantrell9844 Год назад +4

      The longer the video and the longer he goes without uploading the more the money he's losing. It's alot of time and money to edit those long videos

    • @crimnclove1970
      @crimnclove1970 Год назад +1

      Ugh…can’t stand e-begging.

  • @amysharples4789
    @amysharples4789 Год назад +42

    All I can say it’s really pathetic that it has come to this.
    You by far are the best content creators of activism I have seen in the ex Jw community.
    They are doing a disservice to every ex Jw or Jw whom are wanting help by carrying this on and putting you out of service.
    Remember their anger and backlash is a reflection on them and how they feel about themselves. x

  • @truthseeker3140
    @truthseeker3140 Год назад +28

    Thank you Lloyd for all your hart work in exposing this harmful cult. Not only have you caused many to leave this abusive cult, you have prevented thousands from joining. Your hard work has prevented so much suffering. You deserve every penny you earn and I hope others consider contributing to your channel so that you continue to make these videos.

  • @prenticedarlington2720
    @prenticedarlington2720 Год назад +10

    Take it easy!
    Looking forward to watching your future content, whenever and however it comes.

  • @enpersonetsted1444
    @enpersonetsted1444 Год назад +9

    Hey Lloyd!
    Just want to Thank you! Your videos helped me and my family to wake op.
    I was a minesterial servent when I woke up.
    I suceeded in waking my wife op, and we godt out with our 2 boys (2 and 5 years old now)
    Its the best decision we have ever made!
    Thank you for your work Lloyd!❤️
    Love from a family in Denmark❤️

  • @freddybaumgartner3096
    @freddybaumgartner3096 Год назад +15

    As a species, we truly love hurting and attacking each other. Stay strong!!! 💜

  • @billsdoris
    @billsdoris Год назад +31

    So sorry you have been all through this Lloyd. You have helped thousands to get out of the JW organisation. Anyone successful gets abuse, unfortunately it's a fact of life. But I very much appreciate all your hard work

  • @thepumpkin1979
    @thepumpkin1979 Год назад +16

    We need you Lloyd, if you’re strong enough to leave such a toxic religion, you can fight this crap.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  Год назад +6

      Thank you so much! Fighting is all I can do because the legacy of my work is too important. I appreciate the support!

  • @ivanramos5236
    @ivanramos5236 Год назад +16

    i have always been one of your biggest fans and i’m sorry you have to go through all this. what you do with your channel has changed peoples lives in the most positive way on how to move on from this cult and debunking the beliefs we’ve been soo brainwashed into believing was true all our lives, that’s it! you’re not claiming to be a religious or political leader and using yourself as an example of how to live a moral life, people have no right to dive into your personal life and expose faults you may have have because this isn’t what the channels about or does it ever discredit anything you’ve ever shared about the cult or debunking what they teach , which is the sole reason for your channel. these people defaming you should look at themselves in the mirror (which i’m positive they wouldn’t like what they see) and ask themselves what the hell makes them a better person! continue doing what you do best with the same class, humor, and analytical way only you can bring lloyd!

  • @simoneg.5134
    @simoneg.5134 Год назад +9

    This leaves me speechless... Your work is really appreciated and I will miss the videos

  • @cherieclark-spitzer8449
    @cherieclark-spitzer8449 Год назад +23

    Llyod, I'm so incredibly proud of you. ❤ actions speak louder than words, and your actions and responses have been just as gracious as Tibor is! He will be sorely missed, and I'm so sorry for what you all have been going through. Those others are the ones that are narcissistic, that's obvious! Keep taking care of yourself, Llyod. Keep doing you. Things come to a close so that other things can open up. You will have my continued support and I find it a pleasure working with you and supporting your work. Everything you have accomplished and the hundreds of individuals you have helped wake up to this awful cult can never be fully destroyed.

  • @janburn007
    @janburn007 Год назад +30

    Sorry to hear what has happened - & my very best wishes go out to Tibor, who has always been so very "gracious" in all of your videos, ever since you engaged his services. I hope that he will be able to find alternate employment very soon - & I'm so sorry that he has had to endure harassment from some very silly people who have obviously watched this channel.

  • @friendywendy3474
    @friendywendy3474 Год назад +25

    Oh dear Lloyd, so sorry to hear this but you have helped my whole family leave the cult! I will always have your back!!! ❤

  • @thefitnessfanatic3156
    @thefitnessfanatic3156 Год назад +20

    Hey Lloyd my name is Justin and I am a former Jehovah's witness I just want you to know that your videos have helped me tremendously, and the work that you do doesn't go unnoticed. There are always going to be those who because they don't want to know the truth. I am not a content creator myself for you too but I know that being a content creators not easy you will always have people who love your content and people who hate their content it takes very thick skin to do what you do so keep pushing no matter what the haters say😅

  • @mlove.1376
    @mlove.1376 Год назад +7

    Lloyd thank you for your work and your devotion to helping others. You have been a great help to me in my life and my recovery. I'm sorry for what is happening and I was there when this hate went down. I've noticed that there is much hate and anger going on and I too just want healing vs. hate. Considering your mental health is so important and I'm glad that you are taking care of yourself first. So whatever you can do with what you have, I will stay with you. I have always found you kind and whatever your journey is in your personal recovery is none of anyone's business. What my business is my recovery. I feel bad for you, as you have helped me so much. As you understand your purpose, I wish you the very best in everything you choose to do. You are love and you are loved.

  • @suziekew33
    @suziekew33 Год назад +25

    Dear Lloyd, I am sooo sorry that you have had such a hard time of it. I want you to know that you have helped me SO VERY MUCH with your videos! I very much appreciate your even-handed way of discussing matters. You are so funny, and entertaining to watch...all the while sharing well-researched and profound information. You are so well-spoken - maybe you have a future in journalism or some sort of broadcasting? 😊 Sending out a BIG THANK YOU to you, Lloyd!!! Thanks from Canada, for all the excellent support you have provided throughout the years!!! 😀❤❤❤

  • @anitaknights3472
    @anitaknights3472 Год назад +8

    Oh and thanks Tibor, you have always been gracious 😊🥰

  • @Deo_on2
    @Deo_on2 Год назад +43

    Funny how some Ex JWs still have that judgemental JW mindsets.

    • @Monicakincaid63
      @Monicakincaid63 Год назад

      Somebody is trying to destroy our unity and I have a feeling who that might be I 💭

    • @michaelwinkler7841
      @michaelwinkler7841 Год назад +3

      Funny and sad

  • @philiamaya
    @philiamaya Год назад +46

    Hi Lloyd, I'm so sorry for you, you really dont deserve this mental abuse and privacy breach. I think you take a good decision in ending this for your own health. You've done so much already and helped so many people. Please take car of yourself, you have my biggest respect on human level. 👏 THANK YOU

  • @Nunya43445
    @Nunya43445 Год назад +6

    This is very sad. Hoping to see you refreshed and back at it at whatever level or pace you can do. I love your videos, style, clarity, voice. I don't want to resort to watching these others online so I've seen all I will see of EXJW videos if yours discontinue.
    Thank you for everything

  • @hikingviking859
    @hikingviking859 Год назад +14

    Lloyd, i have been watching you since 2015. What a journey! Sending you love and respect for your hard work helping recovering exJWs.

    • @wavygoods877
      @wavygoods877 Год назад +2

      Same! Really got me through when I got disfellowshipped. I followed his because it was unbiased and filled with info on how to continue life outside the jw life.

  • @austin4330
    @austin4330 Год назад +16

    People make mistakes, I assume if we aired everyone’s dirty laundry in an open forum, people may think a bit more before stirring drama posts up. Or, at the very least, be less aggressive in their posts.

  • @Slackbot
    @Slackbot Год назад +16

    Lloyd, I'm sorry to hear that it's come to this. It's true, people in any group can be like sharks who smell blood in the water and attack one of their own. You have done a lot of good, and when you need to rest and clear your head you have the right to do so. Your body of work on this channel has does a lot of good and, unless it is taken down, will continue to do so. As for new content, I feel that you do not owe me anything--but you are responsible to your family for their well-being. Prioritize them over RUclips, please!

  • @rossini138
    @rossini138 Год назад +12

    So sorry to hear this, but you need to think about yourself first. Thanks for all your videos

  • @anitaknights3472
    @anitaknights3472 Год назад +47

    Lloyd, I have been a patron of yours for some time now simply because I am motivated to show you my appreciation for the videos (is that old fashioned terminology 😂) that you have made that have helped me to finally face the fact that I was raised in a cult. It’s not just the information that you have presented but the way you present it, the way you reason about each subject; it sits right with me and I really appreciate the effort you, Deanna and Tibor have put into your channel over so many years. I really cringed watching the footage of the Lloyd haters. Directing such venom at another person is just awful. It seems that some ex witnesses just replace their membership of the religion with membership of another group that gets the same sick satisfaction of crushing people in order to inflate their own self importance. Anyway, I totally disregard that bullshit, I’m just interested in the content that you present and, as long as I can afford to do so, I will support your channel whilst it continues to help people to break free from whatever cultish crap they have been born or drawn into. Thanks Lloyd X

    • @francesrichardson7723
      @francesrichardson7723 Год назад +7

      Totally agree. Behaviour mirrors that of their former cult.

    • @ohgawd
      @ohgawd Год назад

      ​@@francesrichardson7723they are still mentally IN!!!! These folks were so toxic as JWs, even THEY couldn't stand them and so they kicked them out!

  • @helenablack746
    @helenablack746 Год назад +23

    I'm sorry that I ended my patronage, it was a financially difficult time for me. I wish you success Lloyd. I've stepped away from the whole ex-jw scene but I appreciate you and your work. You've literally saved lives.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  Год назад +17

      Absolutely no need to apologise Helena, I appreciate all the support you were able to give. Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @Ballykeith
    @Ballykeith Год назад +7

    All the best Tibor and thank you for your skilful contribution to Lloyd's channel. A man of your talents will always be sought after, so I hope you'll soon find another satisfying job.

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods Год назад +7

    I'm sorry to learn that the defamation has still been going on. I generally don't go looking. I happened across the interview where you were ambushed by Andrew Gold sometime after it happened and was appalled by his behavior in doing that. I was curious if he ever apologized, since he seems to be popular among people I otherwise respect, but again, I didn't go looking.
    I hate that you have had to deal with all this. I know how awful it is to be the target of a smear campaign by people you formerly trusted, but I can't imagine how much worse it must be as a public figure on the internet.
    It's good you can hold on to knowing that you are a good person. You need that to weather such attacks emotionally. Rooting for you.

  • @neenee6393
    @neenee6393 Год назад +26

    This is so unfair to you!!! I’m so sorry!😭😡Please protect your mental health! YOU are supported & loved by many! Please stay focused on your girls & your work. 💪🏾🫂❤

  • @emiliemoe5869
    @emiliemoe5869 Год назад +9

    Dear Lloyd Evans.. This is so sad! Don’t let haters get the better of you. You have saved me and so many others! ❤ And for that we are grateful!!! I hope you feel loved by all of us who stayed loyal to you! Feel better soon and take care of yourself! I can’t imagine what you’re going through… Love from Emilie in Denmark 🇩🇰

  • @sagiebob
    @sagiebob Год назад +9

    Lloyd no body no scandal no topic can take away the fact that you saved my life and have touched many hearts alike. Enjoy your life you have done so much for many people .

  • @tulinfirenze1990
    @tulinfirenze1990 Год назад +13

    All the best for your lawsuit, Lloyd. Such a pity there were those jealous and bitter towards you.

  • @mouaamouaa9480
    @mouaamouaa9480 Год назад +13

    Im not an ex jw but i almost for baptised during a grief process. Your work and your videos saved me from this cult. Thank you! And youre better than all of this toxic people!

  • @EmilySolem-Davis
    @EmilySolem-Davis Год назад +21

    Appreciate your hard work Lloyd, no matter how much or little it is.

  • @exjwpandatower
    @exjwpandatower Год назад +6

    Don’t worry Lloyd, we will take it from here 😉

  • @kevinhutchins591
    @kevinhutchins591 Год назад +32

    Thank you Lloyd for all you’ve done to help the current and ex-JW community. Your videos and work have woken up thousands of JWs and help them to gain freedom from this harmful cult. I know of several personally including of course myself.

  • @wendyh2708
    @wendyh2708 Год назад +19

    No! Say it ain't so Lloyd. Your show will never be the same without "if Tibor is gracious ". I'm so sorry it's come to this. Please give him our best. He will be greatly missed. Stay strong Lloyd!

  • @Kalleron
    @Kalleron Год назад +13

    Good fortune to Tibor where he goes in his future. He's a great video editor, and we all appreciate his hard work.
    Best wishes to you as well, Lloyd.🙂😢

  • @michaelmitchell2050
    @michaelmitchell2050 Год назад +26

    Lloyd... I'm very sorry for what you are going through. I personally love your channel and the help you have given to myself and my friends that are ExJW's.
    You are a good man who have helped alot of people. Take care of yourself buddy...do what you need to. We will be here for you!

  • @tinabanner
    @tinabanner 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is awful, I had no idea you were facing such a tough time. Your activism has been so important in my own recovery and I hope you will keep going and not let these unkind people, who clearly have no content of any use to post, bring you down. Keep going. Keep posting.

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much Tina!

  • @Ljy2wp
    @Ljy2wp Год назад +14

    So sorry you've had to deal with all this Lloyd. It's just shameful. I personally owe you everything and I'm genuinely gutted that your channel won't continue the way it has been, it will be a huge loss for your supporters and please know that in amongst all these horrible people, they're are lots who would have your back and owe you everything. Please take comfort in that. Thank you for everything you have done.

  • @ebonywhite992
    @ebonywhite992 Год назад +15

    If anyone deserves it you do. People are so judgmental and toxic. Can’t focus on the fact you do a good deed to those who need it. I will be here for as long as you post.

  • @JAMESANdjames9
    @JAMESANdjames9 Год назад +16

    The jealousy is so obvious, they can’t stand to see how good you are at this type of activism

  • @hkalchemy2
    @hkalchemy2 Год назад +12

    I’ve watched the rebuttals for a long time and they are really excellent. So sorry to hear that they are no more.

  • @UnknownMOI
    @UnknownMOI Год назад +11

    Sorry to see Tibor leaving and the abuse that he has endured.
    I hope your progress continues and turns around for the best.

  • @paulgmetuk
    @paulgmetuk Год назад +15

    You have a heart of gold Lloyd. Your empathy and understanding has helped so many caught in this horrible cult. You have my gratitude and admiration for your professionalism, kindness, understanding and inner strength. Maintain that courage my friend. You have so many people who love and care for you. X Paul

  • @JDubzEx
    @JDubzEx Год назад +2

    I just recently found your channel, but I love it. I hope you will continue. Until then, you already have enough content to keep me busy for quite a while.

  • @sherylsissom6920
    @sherylsissom6920 Год назад +19

    Lloyd above all things work hard to take good care of yourself mentally, emotionally, etc. This shit can take a toll on you so work hard to not let it and keep it out of your mind. I look forward to when this is behind you. Kind regards, Oregon USA. ☺️

  • @doctrinematters6900
    @doctrinematters6900 10 месяцев назад +1

    Having worked in cult apologetics for many years, these kind of attacks are to be expected from those who simply don't want the truth out there about the religious organization they are part of. You'll notice that now the message has become about the person not the issue. So expect the attacks, and don't be dismayed. Keep up the good work of exposing the dark annals of the Watchtower Society.

  • @aarons.3513
    @aarons.3513 Год назад +35

    Hang in there Lloyd, so many people need you. Thanks for everything you’ve done!

  • @afennox
    @afennox Год назад +4

    I'm sorry to hear this. You have made some very valuable content and have really opened my eyes to some of the atrocities that pass right in front of us.
    I wish your private life was able to stay private through all this - I was unable to watch this video (but read the update) and wish you a refreshing break from some of the pressure. 🌟

  • @glorialeach7301
    @glorialeach7301 Год назад +3

    I’ve so enjoyed your videos. Have been an ‘X’ for many years but your videos have helped so very much. I always resisted the reality that I was raised in a CULT until listening to you. The guilt has left me but the realization has given such insight into many things that I couldn’t understand.

  • @teresaw1207
    @teresaw1207 Год назад +25

    Your early doctrinal videos especially helped me leave the JWs without remorse. Thanks for all your hard work.

    • @morningglory9288
      @morningglory9288 Год назад

      Yes when Lloyd went by the name John Cedars. It was those earlier videos he put out that awoken me from how corrupt the JW cult truly is. As a JW, I was never aware of the 1914, 1925, 1975 end of the world predictions, the Mexican/Malawian scandal, Joseph Rutherford and Beth Sarim, the CSA cases and unreported pedophiles within the congregations, WT's affiliation with the UN and much much more.
      Unfortunately I no longer see that earlier content Lloyd put out, it would be so helpful for those who are coming out of WT.

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 Год назад +4

      Same here, at the very beginning, I could only listen to his channel!!

  • @pinkgorilla99
    @pinkgorilla99 Год назад +7

    Everyone has said thank you so eloquently, and I want to agree.
    You put a tremendous amount of work into these videos and they help a lot of people.
    Best wishes to Tibor.
    Keep on Keeping on!
    P.S love the hair ❤👍