@@EvilXtianityI converted to Christianity from a Full Blown Ethical Nihilist Atheism and even Antitheism. I have no shame, because Jesus Christ has forgiven me.
'For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.” - 1 Corinthians 1:18-19
Maybe more intelligent people are more prone to bias because their intelligence leads them to become arrogant, and therefore more stubborn against opposing views.
Perhaps, but i would rather think its because of the humanist bias that became apart of education after the enlightenment, which lead to the postmodernism that exists in education nowadays.
well.. read this: _Distribution of Nobel Prizes by religion between 1901-2000, the data tooks from Baruch A. Shalev, 100 Years of Nobel Prizes (2003), Atlantic Publishers & Distributors, p.59 and p.57: between 1901 and 2000 reveals that 654 Laureates belong to 28 different religion. Most 65.4% have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference. Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards._ _While separating Roman Catholic from Protestants among Christians proved difficult in some cases, available information suggests that more Protestants were involved in the scientific categories and more Catholics were involved in the Literature and Peace categories._ _Atheists, agnostics, and freethinkers comprise 10.5% of total Nobel Prize winners; but in the category of Literature, these preferences rise sharply to about 35%. A striking fact involving religion is the high number of Laureates of the Jewish faith - over 20% of total Nobel Prizes (138); including: 17% in Chemistry, 26% in Medicine and Physics, 40% in Economics and 11% in Peace and Literature each. The numbers are especially startling in light of the fact that only some 14 million people (0.2% of the world's population) are Jewish. By contrast, only 5 Nobel Laureates have been of the Muslim faith-0.8% of total number of Nobel prizes awarded - from a population base of about 1.2 billion (20% of the world‘s population)._ that show that atheism is the second most stupid religion but got the best possible start then all others. not like islaam that have a poor educating system compared to the west (most best educating system and best universities most of them christian monastiers like oxford, yale, harvard, stanford, ect. ect.) also that judeo/christians (who invented modern science) inherit more then 85% of ALL nobel prizes but in contrast atheism far less then 5% nobel prizes (most of them in litrature and not even scientific). and what kind of litrature atheists come with = - man can be woman - critical race theory (rascism) - religion is against science - everything came from nothing - religion is evil and the maincause of wars and then examen the atheist claim that religion (they also belong to) are by default evil and the cause of all wars. because history show, that atheistic beliefs and their idi0logies are the most vi0lent, dehumanicing, gen0cidal, chlidabusing /-sacrificing /-mutalating of ALL beliefs because secular wars are atheistic wars where socialists forced their idi0logie against the will of the ppl on all by deception and deceiving.
People like Ra, well one besides being admitted atheist Satanists, think that because there is the existence of fundamentalists they can easily pick apart (such as YECs) they make an association fallacy and assume all religious people are like that. That fills their ego and make them feel superior leading to even more bias and lack of ability to self reflect on it.
@@reality1958 Aron Ra absolutely does not go by the evidence. In a debate with IP he openly said he would go with his own experience rather than the many studies that IP presented
The vast majority of Western atheists aren't, especially the ones that LOVE bringing up Hitler and connecting him with Christianity while comveniently ignoring the IJA.
@@EvilXtianity Tacitus and Josephus wrote about him. If you don't accept that as evidence, then you should also reject the historicity of Alexander the Great, since the sources we have about him write much later than the sources of Jesus. Also, please give me one single reason why Paul would make up a figure like Jesus, only for him to be imprisoned, tourtured and brutaly killed for that. What did he gain? Even atheist/agnostic Bible scholars like Bart Ehrmann would think your arguments are completly ridicoulus.
As a Christian who specializes in mathematical statistics, I really appreciate your use of the normal curve and suggesting the difference in believers and atheists might be non distinguishable based on effect size
Funny. In the area I grew up all the most intelligent kids were raised in Christian families. From my friend group all are still Christians and are things like CEO, Owner of their own company, software developer, QA engineer, Librarian, college professor, CPA among other professions and have thriving families.
I actually think that you will see this trend grow more and more as time goes on because Christians are for the most part the only ones still living the lifestyle that is most beneficial to raising healthy and intelligent children. Namely married mother and father in the home, and if not outright homeschooling definitely being more mindful and taking an interest in what their child is learning in school and being more choosy about what school they go to. Whereas in secular households you're more likely to find single-parenthood, which we know has a negative impact on a child's development.
@Rey Is_Here well women generally are more religious than men and studies find that when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why. I know I personally would prefer a religous partner over a secular one because frankly I think religous women are more feminine than non religious ones and it's not just me it's scientifically proven as well that they are
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@@Gamefan86wrong. reality is fractal. this means that the micro is the same as the macro. as above so below. you can test how true something is by seeing how well it fits into this axiom of reality. Jesus Christ being God in the flesh on earth and having 12 disciples, is reflected in the heavens by the sun having 12 zodiacal signs. literally as above so below in this instance, but you will see evidence of this literally everywhere. fibonacci sequence is present in micro and macro, electric currents behave like water currents, the brain looks like the universe, etc…
As an atheist this was incredibly refreshing to hear. I was half expecting the colloquial "bashing" but it very quickly delved deep into rationality. I've never thought the argument made any sense in the first place, chiefly because of some of the reasons you mention, but it was good listening to the whole set of reasons, some I hadn't considered. I appreciate the video.
It is nice to hear that from one of you guys. One question that you don't need to answer me but only to yourself. If Jesus came at you when you die and told you that he will save you but you will have to truly repent for your wrong doings. Will you accept or try and save yourself in your way.
@MauricioLSB This is such a weird question because not only do you have to assume that--not God, but Jesus (?), is real and that he somehow exists outside of nature, but you also have to assume I have wrongdoings that I need to repent from, and for what end? To be saved? From what? I was a Catholic and a Christian for 20 years and this makes no sense. However, if a god truly does exist, regardless of which one it is, I will have definitive proof once I die and I'll have no option but to play his game by his own rules. If "Jesus" comes to me and tells me he doesn't care if I lived a good or bad life, as long as I repent from what he thinks I should repent from, to save me from what he'll do to me if I don't repent, then I have no option but to repent, do I? I guess you should ask yourself the same question, what if Allah is real and sends you to Jahannam for not being a Muslim? What if Buddhism is true and your beliefs and adherence to religious tenets are grounding you from reaching Nirvana? And that's only two of the thousands of religions out there...
@@wax99 Your atheism and criticisms against religion are the most basic and refutable within atheism, you say that you are an atheist because according to you, Catholicism does not make sense based on your experience, but in reality what does not make sense is your atheism, so it is. , that you twist Pascal's argument like the typical atheist does, to begin with we do not assume that Jesus and God exist, they exist regardless of what you think, on my face antimaterialism page I show evidence of the existence of GOD ranging from biology and intelligent design as well as refutations of atheistic disteleology, also the historicity of different religions such as Christianity and Jesus, denying their historicity is just as ignorant as denying hol caust, in addition to showing the miracles of Jesus, and evidence of parapsychology that shows the irrefutable existence of the spiritual and of God, evidence such as poltergeist, verifiable out-of-body experiences that literally include seeing God, and that are later verified with details that were impossible to see or capture while unconscious and that happened on the spot , etc., as for the argument that if you don't believe in such a religion you're going to hell is an atheistic straw argument, most religions don't say that if you don't believe in them you're going to go to hell, in fact with that Knowing that God and the spiritual world are real is enough, and if you are an atheist who denied the spiritual world that is bad because you assume that all your relatives and strangers will cease to exist forever and that people who suffered many injustices in life will never have relief that is not very different than wishing death to someone so in the afterlife, atheism and agnosticism is punished yes or yes.
@@wax99 I think your worldview is very intelligent but I have things I wanna tell you. Jesus or אֱלָהִין (Yeshua) is regarded as a historical figure. historians don't believe he was divine though, their view of Jesus Jewish people; believe a jew who wanted to lead a revolt against the roman empire. Most likely I believe we are designed. our components, even down to an organic cellular level just seem too designed, intricate and functional. not only that the precision of the universe is very hard to wrap around. after the big bang certain mathematical constants had to be set to incredibly precise numbers in order for life to appear. "the odds of our universe having the right conditions for life are is 1 in 10^10^123" - Physicist Sir Roger Penrose it's actually much more likely for the universe to be a thick ball of matter containing hydrogen gas. the universe is very finely tuned. like it or not there is a lot of consistency throughout the biblical recordings from different authors. lots of each book in the OT and NT are incredibly consistent with the belief structure of god. there is lots of recorded fulfilled prophecy's, symbolism referencing scripture, and historical accuracy. take what you want from this and I would love to see how you would view these claims. wonderful day to you sir.
@@wax99 Let me rephrase his question. If Jesus Christ came down to you, and said, "Believe unto Me and you shall be saved," would you do it? The only repentance Jesus wishes from you is to turn your mind from unbelief to belief in Him. Salvation in Christianity is misunderstood or even twisted. Salvation is not a reward, it's a gift. It's by God's Grace we are saved through faith. Now, as for any wrongdoings to repent from: there is only one, and that wrongdoing is trying to save yourself. The Bible makes it clear that it is not by works you are saved. Especially since one sin, no matter what type it is, will send you to Hell. And no amount of works will save you from that. But if you believe unto Jesus, then you are saved. Well, now what? You can do good works without any burden. Yeah, James 2 says "faith without works is dead", but looking at the context of James, it's not justification before God, but justification before your fellow man. If you want justification before God, accept His Grace, through faith. His Grace is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Nothing that we mortal men can do will make it or earn Salvation. It is accepted. The only repentance is to turn from unbelief to belief. Anyone who says, "repent of your sins" is teaching a false doctrine, because they don't give an explanation of: how many times to repent, what sin to repent, does it count for future sins, is it multiple sins, is it the sins forgotten, what about dementia? This is why Salvation, in reality, is easy, what the heretics call "easy believism", which is Bible Doctrine anyways: to believe unto the Lord Jesus for Salvation, nothing more.
I'm a PhD. I work with PhDs and MDs all day long. Many non-believers and a few mostly-secular believers. I see lots of people who are very good at applying very narrow kinds of critical and analytical thinking within their field of expertise, but the second you step outside of their expertise even slightly, the analytical/critical thinking goes to almost 0. Certainly some are more well rounded, but it's uncomfortable how many seem incapable of operating outside of a very narrow margin. All specific intelligence, virtually no general intelligence.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@Gamefan86 Except Paul makes it clear that the ressurection literally happened, and that faith is pointless if it didn't literally happened, and thousands of early Christians were tortured and killed for claiming it literally happened, and all the archaeological evidence supports it literally happened. Also, the whole "sun" rising vs "son" is a pun that only works in English, not in ancient Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Come on, you should be smarter than this.
I know more about the universe than Leonardo da Vinci and Isaac Newton. It's not even _close._ That's not because I'm more intelligent than they were, of course. But I still know far more about the world and the universe than they did. And, of course, Leonardo da Vinci would have been burned alive if he'd publicly doubted the existence of the god he'd been taught to believe as a child. Isaac Newton would just have been hanged, probably. (Thomas Aikenhead, age 20, was hanged for blasphemy in 1697. And as Muslim countries today have discovered, you don't have to murder _too_ many people in order to keep everyone else quiet about their doubts.) So, even if the great thinkers of the past _had_ doubted the party line, they would have been smart enough not to admit it, don't you think? Of course, like you, they were taught to believe in their religion as a child and probably really, really _wanted_ it to be true. But unlike those of us these days, they never got a chance to even hear an argument from nonbelievers. Theists today _do_ have that chance. Of course, they seldom want to take advantage of it. But I suppose that's just too scary, especially when you already have doubts. And many Christians have told me that they don't _care_ if their religious beliefs are true or not, because they want to believe that stuff anyway.
@@Bill_Garthright What you know about the universe, is it simply what you've been told, or indoctrinated with, same as you accuse theists of doing?You say that you've met Christians who want to believe regardless if it's true or not, I've met and seen videos of atheists admitting that they wouldn't believe even if Christianity was proven to be true. Andrew Tate once said that by people believing in GOD and behaving better than if they didn't believe, they make GOD real because of the real world effects that their believing has. Some people are better off believing than not believing. Clinically diagnosed psychopath David Wood is a prime example. I recommend watching his video "why I'm Christian" for an interesting look into the mind of a psychopath.
@@VindensSaga Not really, I assume it'd be the opposite. The smarter you are the greater capacity you have for doing stupid things. The higher the intelligence the more likely to become arrogant, the more arrogant the less likely of self reflection and less likely to listen to opposite viewpoints.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
Had a conversation today. “There’s no way a man could turn water into wine, walk on water, or be conceived by a virgin.” “That’s why they’re called miracles, because they’re outside the bounds of everyday experience.” “Shut up, we’ll agree to disagree.” Pray for her, if you could.
I highly doubt the actual conversation went like that. But I think you would agree that miracles are very improbable. Now what does it say about your belief?
@@gergelymagyarosi9285 it’s paraphrased, but not by much. I combined her statements, and reduced the redundancy of mine, meaning mine was the same to every one of her points. If something was is miraculous, it can’t be explained other than what it is: a miracle. It defies our natural understanding of the world, meaning our day-to-day experiences and understandings, as well as any scientific definition. What it says about my belief, it says very little. I’ve got anecdotal experiences, others’ testimonies, and the natural progression of my own logical facilities that led me to the realization that the universe having a creator makes more sense than it not, that the nature of man needs to be reconciled with said creator, and that the accuracy of the Old Testament and New Testament can’t be understated. You can do fantastical things when you’re the creator of the heavens and the earth and the lord of all creation. Not to mention, I was called a a child and, although I’ve stumbled heavily throughout my life, I’m still called to do the job, the calling, that I wish to do because it’s as natural to me as breathing. God bless.
@@williamwilson1222 I see the main difference here: if something cannot be explained then it is a miracle for some, and just another unknown fact to others. For some "it makes sense to me" is not enough of an explanation. Can you see why someone, who thinks about miracles like that, find depending on miracles absurd?
more like "if God makes miracles, if he turned water into wine and so on, why doesn't he make miracles today? Do you really believe if you are the only one to survive a plane crash that God saved you while he let everyone else die? While he starves a child every 5 seconds? While there is countless number of people better than you dying every day?" If God exists, he doesnt care about us so i dont care about him either.
Even as an atheist, I'm curious how many atheists know that most of the arguments they use have been challenged and debated by philosophers for hundreds of years, and a lot of the more common arguments against religion aren't even widely used by atheistic philosophers.
What do you think about the teleological argument about the existence of God? That we can tell that the universe and all that exists has an intelligent designer because it has intelligent design that cannot be achieved through a coincidence? This is something that the Bible actually says. The first line of scripture, Genesis 1:1, in the original Hebrew text, says that God, carved, **polished** the heavens and the earth, implying that all that is made is too intricate to not be created. This is repeated in Romans, where it is written that God's attributes are clearly seen in all that He has made, so those who refuse to acknowledge the truth of God are without excuse. The idea here is that the God of the Bible must exist, because we live in a reality that only the God of the Bible could create.
_I'm curious how many atheists know that most of the arguments they use have been challenged and debated by philosophers for hundreds of years_ *What* arguments? As an atheist, I don't need an argument. I just ask theists for *one piece of good evidence, specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself,* that their god is real, rather than just imaginary. So far,... nothing. Nothing but vague claims. Likely, it would take more than _one_ piece of good evidence to get me to believe in a god. I can't tell for sure, of course, because belief isn't a choice. So I can't tell what would actually convince me. But *nothing* is never going to be enough. I'm going to need *something* distinguishable from wishful-thinking before I can believe their claims or even take their claims seriously. Atheists don't need arguments, theists do. Ideally, theists need good evidence. But as far as I can tell, they have none. They've got arguments, though I've never heard a sound one. Maybe some exist, I don't know. I'm sure I've never heard them all. PS. When it comes to philosophy, note that philosophers themselves are far more likely to be atheists than people who know little or nothing about philosophy: philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl So their arguments don't seem to work very well at convincing the experts, either. But again, we atheists don't need an argument to just... not believe someone else's claims. It's the person making the claim who has the burden of proof. If they can't back up their claim, that's all I need to not believe them.
@@NoLongerNeedThis Where did you get this translation from the Hebrew? It seems totally inadequate to me (I will make a more adequate translation after you let me know). What do you think the author of Genesis meant by Genesis 1:1 and what were the Jewish interpretations of this text? They were quite far from interpreting the teleological argument, just so you know.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ...
The bible describes a flat earth like a snow globe 🤣Cosmos is eternal, it always existed in some form. Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, No! It was not created by your magical space wizard.
When I got into college to study computers, I learned about scholarly research, how to read, interpret and study academic papers, how to write reviews and resumes. I was an atheist back then. Actually, learning how to do a proper academic research with a healthy skepticism while seeking to organize the thought into logical structures helped me in my conversion to Christianity in the study of theology. It was a humbling experience since I was being told that religious people were dumb, that until I read some theologians. Today I see the bible as the revelation of God with an ocean of knowledge and wisdom that even after all these years I didn't even scratched the surface. Studying the bible requires lots of skills and research in different fields of knowledge, such as Hermeneutics, manuscriptology, theology, philosophy, textual criticism, history, archaeology, literature, language and grammar, exegesis and many more. It's quite hard, actually.
@Barbara Bond The Bible has plenty of surface level text, and varying depths. There is enough, just in plain text, to teach a man how to save himself from eternal damnation, to live a peaceful life, to prosper in work and at home to select good friends, and much more. If you want to dig, then the text is deeper. The OP wants to dig all the way down, and so he is looking at cultural aspects of the original texts and other things that require external study amd careful thought. God doesn't make it hard; He hides a treasure and then gives us the tools necessary to dig it up, if we're interested and like to work.
You also need to learn about astronomy, mythology, ancient civilizations, chemistry, volcanology, etc. otherwise you will be restricted to the literary aspect of the message. May I suggest you some key words and expressions : the Assyrian kings' list, and also Adamu, Nuabu, Ibrium, Issiac, Yakub Har. I Wish you the best
I’m a Christian. I believe that one’s religious belief or lack thereof does not determine intelligence and that there are different types of intelligence that are suited better for different kinds of situations.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@bastiat4855 The primary reason for life for everyones existence is to know Jesus if we want to get technical. That was why man was created and God still let us exist after the fall.
@bastiat4855 Yes the overarching purpose of every human being existing is to know Jesus. They have an ultimate purpose for life and that is the singular reason. It is why God spared the human race with Noah's ark and never wiped us out. It is why he created humans in the first place. This is an extremely easy concept to grasp with basic reading comprehension when reading the bible. YOU your fundamental purpose for breathing is to know Jesus, everything else is pointless. You exist for this purpose. Humans were created to exist in the presence of God, we were never meant to exist outside of it in the fallen state after original sin, it is like fish out of water. So you cannot pretend you don't know the purpose of life or the purpose of your life. The bible makes it clear, it is to have an relationship with Jesus your God.
So maybe instead they should test IQs then compare like IQs on atheist vs religious to see the ratio of the two. But more than just IQ, we should also compare quality of life, anxiety, depression, etc. to see how they stack up.
I would definitely be interested in seeing the study that showed the rate of mental health problems like depression and anxiety in atheist versus Believers in relation to IQ.
_we should also compare quality of life, anxiety, depression, etc. to see how they stack up._ Why? I care about the _truth._ Now, I have a very good life, but even if it would make me feel better to think that I'm going to magic Disneyland after I died - and it would _definitely_ make me feel better if I thought my parents, grandparents, and other people I've cared about were laughing it up in magic Disneyland, instead of just... gone - I _still_ want to believe that only if it's true. If it's not true, I don't want to believe it. I only want to believe it if it _is_ true. I'm not some child who needs to cling to Santa Claus as long as possible. So none of that actually _matters_ to me, if it's not true. And as far as I can tell, theists don't have _anything_ distinguishable from wishful-thinking backing up the god they were almost always just taught to believe as a child. Disagree? Then how about one - *one* - piece of good evidence, specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Why is *one* too much to ask? But it always is.
Growing up, I always had an interest in both science and faith. When I went off to college, I majored in science education. At first, I was concerned that growing deeper in my knowledge of science (and at a secular university) would challenge my faith in God. In fact, just the opposite happened. As my knowledge of science deepened, so did my faith. It turned out that science strengthened the intellectual/rational underpinnings of my faith. Since then, I have learned more about many of the greatest scientists who ever lived (including modern day scientists) were also devout believers in God.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@@Gamefan86 A rational mind sees a rational universe requires a rational mind. An irrational mind believes rationally comes from irrationality such as the naturalist/Atheist. Atheists thus don't have a rational mind and are less intelligent. It's as straight forward as that. There is a reason Christianity birthed modern science and uplifted the West which brought humanity into the modern age. Christians are the rational ones. Atheism is a fairytale for those afraid of the light.
In the past I was also tricked by the evil to reject God, thinking that religion and science contradict each other. But later down the line I came to the conclusion that science is the language of the Universe, but not the explanation for existence, reality and beginning of all things God bless you, people 💜
@@AndrewStevens-up6pn I also thought that, but God proved me wrong. Just think about it, why dk we exist? How did spacetime continuum begin? Why does anything exist ever? Good luck answering that with science
@@dimasskarabasMatter can’t be created nor destroyed. From this we could assume that matter existed forever. The Big Bang is just how far back we can trace the universe’s age because we can find when all the microwaves were in one spot, and redshifting proves that matter is still moving out farther and farther away from where the singularity was. Matter is eternal, it existed before the Big Bang for a likely infinite amount of time, so God is not needed. Now, how the universe compressed all that matter into one place is a bit less obvious of an answer, but maybe the universe follows some sort of cycle where matter will expand far and wide before eventually coming back together in a certain point, or perhaps the universe just alters matter and its movement in ways we can’t fathom. This doesn’t necessarily imply God, and while we may never know the true workings of the universe, it would certainly be at least a little hasty to imply that *a* god, let alone the Christian God or any god humans have made, *has* to exist.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
Having worked in a university setting for over 30 years, the concept of "Bias Blind Spot" is WAY under researched. That's why I view "Ph.D" more as "piled high and deep"
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
But _everyone_ thinks that they reason correctly. _Everyone_ thinks that they use logic and reason. I've never met a single person who _didn't_ think that, no matter _what_ they believed.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
@@Gamefan86 mockery is the least intelligent thing you could ever do. I've seen your sun worship thing and it makes no sense. You completely disregard the entire Jewish background before Christianity and the fact that the Jews would never hold onto something like that for a long time.
I've encountered this many times online, especially with critical-thinking. I've visited Reddit and Quora and read comments by Atheists saying that critical-thinking and faith aren't compatible. Basically, religious people can't be critical-thinkers. These comments get to my head and dwindle my faith and spirit life. But deep down, I know intelligence/critical-thinking can be in the minds of people who have faith or believe in the supernatural. It don't matter what you believe, you can be smart. Atheists and Theists and basically anyone can be smart people. People need to grow up.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
A rational mind sees a rational universe requires a rational mind. An irrational mind believes rationally comes from irrationality such as the naturalist/Atheist. Atheists thus don't have a rational mind and are less intelligent. It's as straight forward as that. There is a reason Christianity birthed modern science and uplifted the West which brought humanity into the modern age. Christians are the rational ones.
Personally, I wouldn’t trust the answers that you see on Reddit or Quora. I’ve been there before and some of the ideologies I’ve seen promoted there are completely irrational and terrifying.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... ....
@@Gamefan86 Wrong the 12 Disciples are representative of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Christ claims to be God has divine attributes in all 4 Gospels. If you’re going to post a lazy conspiracy theory, do at least one that Inspiring Philosophy hasn’t debunked.
I've actually noticed even when you give a completely reasonable answer to some aetheists they will tend to either ignore it or just default to the "prove God exists/there is no evidence" at that point is usually when I know the conversation gets no where. Anybody can be intelligent or not by worldly standards. The real question is how wise you are and how willing you are to not let your bias cloud you. Most of the aetheists I've talked to can't seem to shed the bias of gods are imaginary. Which honestly makes it hard to have a productive discussion for many believers. However that doesn't make a believer less wise or less intelligent. If anything that reflects bad on the none believer. I think what really makes us as Christians look bad is how the media likes to portray us. Especially the radically zealous ones who agressively believe. Or you have the ones who use Christianity to further themselves. Plus you have those who never read The Bible outside church then try to debate and the aetheist knows more about The Bible than the Christian. At the end of the day we are all imperfect human beings. We shouldn't be trying to prove who is smarter but we should love each other because Yahweh loves us and wants us to love each other. God bless everyone and peace be with you all.
Yeah, the fundamentalist movement in America really promotes embracing ignorance and denying critical thinking. Many christians barely read the Bible let alone understand the context, and just parrot the scriptures and what their pastors and televangelists say. Conversely many atheists also parrot the same talking points, and don't even attempt to understand the beliefs they are arguing against. And the two groups do not mix. Ignorant christians reinforce the perceived stupidity to atheists with closed minds. And closed minded atheists reinforce the arrogant atheist persona that christians view.
Ament! The blind argument issue (ignoring points/evidence) makes a lot more sense when you compare it to arguments on frivolous issues that people have. Some will swear up and down that Trump is a terrible person who never did anything good ever, despite having been a beloved philanthropist and earning more of the popular vote than Obama from many people who had votes for Obama. These are simple, irrefutable,evident truths, but some will rather die than admit them. How much so will they reject God then, given the significance of the Christ in their life if they accept or reject Him?
_I've actually noticed even when you give a completely reasonable answer to some aetheists they will tend to either ignore it or just default to the "prove God exists/there is no evidence"_ OK, let's test that, shall we? I'm an atheist. I don't believe in a god or gods because I know of no good evidence that any god is actually real. And evidence, of course, is how we distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking. Do _you_ have any good evidence that your god is real? How about *one* example, specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Or *one* piece of good evidence that _any_ of the magical/supernatural stories in the Bible actually happened, if you prefer. Just *one.* Your choice. And I will _give_ you a guy named Jesus who was crucified by the Romans. So, let's hear your "completely reasonable answer." I know you've got claims. But _every_ religion makes claims, just because of how easy that is. Heck, even my three-year-old neighbor can make claims. It's not hard. And believers in _every_ religion also feel that their beliefs are true. Unfortunately, feelings are indistinguishable from wishful-thinking. You can't _all_ be right. (You _can_ all be wrong, though.) How do I decide which, if any, of you are actually right? That's why I ask for evidence. That's why I ask for just *one* piece of good evidence. Got anything? Does your "completely reasonable answer" include evidence that your beliefs are actually _true?_ I'm curious if your "completely reasonable answer" would sound reasonable to you if it came from some _other_ believer in some _other_ religion. Shall we test this? :)
too true. most internet atheist are only super skeptical. denying any evidence, but when asked to produce some argument or alternative, i usually get nothing.
I would be curious to explore whether the role of university professors who seem to actively pull Christian students away from faith might have an impact on these numbers.
_the role of university professors who seem to actively pull Christian students away from faith_ Let me guess. You've never actually been to a university, have you? Or not a secular university, at least? You just got that from Christian movies, didn't you?
_"university professors who seem to actively pull Christian students away from faith"_ - how do they do that? As far as I have seen, university professors just teach the facts about their subject matter to the best of their knowledge. How is that "pulling somebody away from faith"?
@@renedekker9806 I'm glad you haven't run across profs with biases, hobby horses or prejudices that are harmful to the faith of students. Not everyone is so lucky.
@@AndrewBellous Have you ever _been_ to a secular university? I never had a professor who even _mentioned_ their religious beliefs, although I had some who wore small crosses as jewelry. But it didn't make the slightest difference to me what religion they might have been. Why would it? If any of my professors _had_ tried to push their religious beliefs on me, it wouldn't have taken. After all, it's not as though I was a child in a religious school, being indoctrinated daily. I was old enough by then to not just believe whatever some adult told me. But it never happened. Not even _once._ I suspect that you've just watched too many Christian movies, where the evil atheist professor is a standard character (a _fictional_ character, of course).
The opposite is strange but true. The older we get the more open we get to other ideas. Intelligence is hard to define. Openness is one aspect. Belief and trust is outside our normal reason/logic. Imagination is a big part. "Sometimes we must leave reason aside, to explore the sense and nonsense." Carl Jung.
_The older we get the more open we get to other ideas._ Evidence? I would need some research on that, because the opposite seems to be true once you get past early adulthood. Not for _everyone,_ probably, but definitely as a general rule. As we grow up, we start to question what we were taught to believe as a child. And as a teenager or young adult, you're more open to new ideas. Many people reject those new ideas, retreating to the comfort of whatever they were taught to believe as a child, but they do seem to be more open to them. But after that, I think most people start to harden in their attitudes. They tend to stick with whatever they settled on as a young adult - more or less, at least. But maybe you've got evidence otherwise? I _could_ be wrong. At least, in theory.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
@@reyis_here945 these atheists display very low levels of EQ. They are unable to express their point of view without getting frothing mad about the topic of religion.
@@bos567564 yeah it's like I said: autistic people generally don't tend to be religous or believe in God probably because of their "extreme male brain" andall the testosterone in their bodies
@Justin Gary if evolution isn't true though than why did God give men nipples? Their weird and non functioning and I even heard can be destructive to the male body
Something I would like to add is that I remember reading years ago (when looking into this topic) that chinese, who are infamously atheistic, show exactly the results you are talking about. Namely the more intelligent chinese being more likely to find religion and hold onto it.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
I never brag about my IQ, because I realize it is a gift from God. I know I didn't do anything to earn or deserve it. I am a nuclear scientist, a member of Mensa, High IQ Society, and Prometheus Society (99.99th percentile). However, I was a Christian before I was a scientist. I see God in everything I touch. Any "scientist" that truly examines the facts and improbable odds of randomness and doesn't accept God is stupid, regardless of his or her IQ. Often stupidity and high IQ go hand in hand.
There are unintelligent atheists and unintelligent religious people. I find most militant atheists and activists to be largely unintelligent. The same could be said to be true on the religious side. If someone rejects philosophy and history as a means of truth, as many atheist and religious fundamentalists do, I do not think they can considered to be perspicacious or insightful. This is also true of people who have trouble differentiating the literal from the metaphorical, as many atheists and fundamentalists do.
@@reality1958 I primarily had Matt Dillahunty and Dawkins in mind, but much of what I said would apply to them as well. There are numerous examples of them making the most rudimentary of philosophical and theological errors. For example, Hitchens thinking Jesus meant literal violence when he discussed wielding a sword. Their worldviews are permeated with sophistic and two-dimensional thinking.
Well, I'm the only practicing Christian in my close family. One of my siblings is culturally a Christian, the other a homosexual and my eldest sibling is an atheist. They all probably think I'm an idiot because of the beliefs.
Aww your religious? That's cute; women generally tend to be more religous than men and studies found that when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religous, not more which could explain why. I know that I personally would definitely choose a religous partner over a secular one even though I myself am not religous (and why should i? I'm sixteen years old and male. I'm not a prepubescebt boy anymore)
Feel like there is also quite a bit of the dunning kruger effect at play, where people who dismiss religion, feel like they are too old and modern to believe "ancient fairy tales"
@The wanderer i mean, most atheist are have never read anything on classical philosophy or thomism, so "fact base" not really, people are way too intellectually lazy and directed by their passions. I mean just look at your average voter
Funny that you mention "old" 😂 because there was a study done where old men were given t they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why women generally tend to be more religous than men. A similar study showed that when women were given testosterone they became more skeptical than before
@@reality1958 Then Atheism is your god, since you seem to "defend" (albeit very poorly, reeking with nothing but arrogance and pride) it very rigorously like a theist would defend their religion. You're fooling nobody.
@@reality1958 do you vote? Do you believe in a thing called the state? If yes then you believe in the religion of statism if no then you are an Anarchist.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
@@Gamefan86 um, no. I don't have the time, patients, or crayons to explain to you how literally every single thing you said was wrong. Look, if you want to add glitter to the glue your huffing, that's fine, but don't get your crazy on me
@@reality1958 hey she's a woman, the fact that she is religious is cute. Sure, if this was a guy than that would be pathetic but still. Let her believe what she wants. She at least has more estrogen than you
I live in the Philippines, a predominantly Catholic/Christian country. Religion is a huge part of our culture and life. Everywhere you go you can meet a very religious doctor, engineer, lawyer, any sort of profession. I only encounter this notion of dumb religious people from the western world, specifically America, when I got on the internet. Its very weird.
Of course, those people are Christian because they were _raised_ Christian. Overwhelmingly, they were indoctrinated with their particular religion as young children. And there's a strong emotional attachment to whatever you were taught to believe as a child (not to mention extraordinary magical promises of "eternal life" and extraordinarily harsh threats of what will happen to you if you _don't_ believe). And if everyone around you _also_ believes it - or isn't open about _not_ believing it, at least - then it's easy to go along with the crown, too. If you were the only one believing something like that, you might question it more often. But yeah, I don't agree that atheists are necessarily smarter than other people, and I never hear that from other atheists, either. I mean, not _seriously._ But as memes, sure. In casual conversation, people can say almost anything.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@@Gamefan86 Jesus Christ lived as a human being. Jesus is not a symbolic figure, Roman records even say that he was going around and preaching at the time the bible says he was. Regardless of if you believe him to be the son of God, Jesus Christ was a living human being.
This is a very cool video, IP. Well done. I'm someone who got official IQ testing done when I got into a really good therapist office for some issues I was having. It was part of a 4 hour series of tests for various things (including autism), in the end they ruled that I am not autisric but I am on the fairly significantly high IQ side for a female and that I heavily favor fluid intelligence (which was no surprise to me because my memory recall is so consistently bad it's a joke between me and my husband). So these kind of atheist memes and slogans that denigrate the intelligence of religious folks, and Christians especially, always irked me especially hard because I know for a fact how blatantly untrue it is.
Autism is the extreme male brain and is caused by prenatal testosterone (its the reason why many autistic women and girls, and exclusively the females on the spectrum, come out as lesbian or trans: it's because they have male brainsand desires) and recent research shows that autistic people generally aren't religous or believe in God. Women generally tend to be more religious than men and when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
Thank you for this video, gentle and thorough. You are the kind of christian i would hope i would be in another life if i wasn’t an atheist. Deep respect.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
Could you make a video on prayer? I feel that it is an important part of the philosophy of Christianity, and I was surprised to realize that you dont have a specific video on it.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... ....
Not religious is someone who doesn't believe in a religion. Religious is someone who does. Religion is a system of beliefs and values that make up a world view surrounding mainly God or gods.
@@MrFossil367ab45gfythThe first part of your definition was a tautology. The second part is questionable, as there are religions without gods and also ideologies that on many ways work like religions and sometimes even have godlike figures. There are also religions that shun the term.
Time after time, survey after survey shows that when people convert away from religion; they say it’s because they never had their questions answered. Poor catecheses drove many away. Intelligence by itself isn’t the differentiator, we need better communication and us Christians need to be able to explain our faith well.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@@francoisbroukx1244 Yes if a ball of nothing exploded and magically and randomly created a universe all by its self that would be a astronomically low chance of happening, assuming some sort of multiverse theory that is also un scientific. (Basically fine tuning theory but in a broader sense)
@@cchhiicckkeennss As far as I can tell no one - *no one* - thinks that "a ball of nothing exploded and magically and randomly created a universe." If _that's_ your degree of knowledge about cosmology, you need to go back to school. Or at least do a bit of googling. And if you can demonstrate how you calculated that "astronomically low chance of happening," I'd be very impressed (and surprised, of course). I suspect that you just pulled that out of your butt, didn't you?
@@cchhiicckkeennss what I mean is, if you play heads or tails, what is the chance the piece falls on the slice? and now you do that for a billion years. That is not chance, that is called probability.
@@francoisbroukx1244 Im talking about things like the gravity field landing on a tiny % chance or the universe would blow up instantly meaning 0 billions of years, 1 chance and it failed. If you want to try to say things like multi verse theroy or whatever you would still need to explain how the universe generator got fine tuned, you can't have a creation without a creator
Texas was the highest Academically rated state in the US from the late 1960's to the early 1980's, and my School District (Sheldon/CE King High) was the 4th highest rated school system in Texas, at the time. My oldest sister and I, were 2 of the 3 highest IQ's EVER recorded in our District until, at least, 1989. Both of us have an unshakable belief in God, and I tell people that, "I don't believe that God exists, I KNOW He does!" So there's that...
No and I can say that as a former atheist with an IQ in the top .9th percentile on the WAIS-III. Technically I'm on the cusp of being a genius. I'm right on the line between "Nobel Laureate professor" and "genius" at 149. Somehow, I dont have super powers and am not a success at everything I do, what most people seem to think high IQ does for people. It mostly alienates you really as it's hard to relate. It can get annoying already knowing what ppl will say, or people saying "did you know?" and having to lie just to be polite to hold a conversation. It makes for boring interactions with people. Id definitely say for me my intelligence is what allowed me to perceive god in the noise in a way that is unshakeable now. I certainly didn't expect that as an atheist.
In my anecdotal experiences religiosity tends to be like that one internet meme where the low IQ guy and high IQ guy agree but then the average IQ person is the one in denial.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... ....
@@Wildxgiyu Majority of atheists are rationalists meaning they believe in reason And evidence unlike religious PEople who believe in fate . I Dont meant to say atheists are way smarter but I meant that most of the atheist are smarter Than religious PEople but THERE are some religious PEople that are really Smart and intelligent which I cannot deny .
And probably testosterone too when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more. Look it up, it's true. That's why I find it sad when women abandon their faith: their basically abandoning their feminity (which is probably the point but still)
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov It's important to remember, when studies are conducted, what are they measuring exactly? What does the study mean by "religious"? Testosterone generally just intensifies what you already are predisposed to be. So if you're predisposed to be promiscuous for example, it's going to intensify that vice.
@drooskie well women generally tend to be more religous than men look it up I mean, I'm sure you would notice it too in just your own daily life as well like I did...
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ...
Another missing factor is you can only test people self-identifying as atheists. Many more exist but may not espouse the position out of ignorance of an identified worldview. Intelligence could only identify knowledge. Not how judgment is exercised when that knowledge has been considered.
That’s a very good point. Most agnostics are, for all practical purposes, atheists. People who are undecided on whether or not God exists would probably be less intelligent on average because the majority of them did not use reasoning to support their worldview on this complex topic or even choose to avoid it entirely.
That might depend on how you define atheism. Traditionally in philosophic academia "atheism" is defined as 'the belief that God does not exist' rather than merely 'the lack of belief in any god'. I would imagine that the more likely someone is to self-identify with the term "atheism" the more likely they are to actively believe that God doesn't exist.
Video idea: When do you think Final Judgement will happen? Examine evidence from Bible and stuff around current times and make a estimate? Just an idea! God bless ❤
Well, I don’t think the study you referred to was intended to suggest that religion made you less intelligent. I do agree the advice at the end of the video, to properly understand why one believes what one believes, is very good advice. On the cognitive bias issue. Everyone has them, the trick is to be aware of them and to learn how to avoid making thinking errors because of them.
_Distribution of Nobel Prizes by religion between 1901-2000, the data tooks from Baruch A. Shalev, 100 Years of Nobel Prizes (2003), Atlantic Publishers & Distributors, p.59 and p.57: between 1901 and 2000 reveals that 654 Laureates belong to 28 different religion. Most 65.4% have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference. Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards._ _While separating Roman Catholic from Protestants among Christians proved difficult in some cases, available information suggests that more Protestants were involved in the scientific categories and more Catholics were involved in the Literature and Peace categories._ _Atheists, agnostics, and freethinkers comprise 10.5% of total Nobel Prize winners; but in the category of Literature, these preferences rise sharply to about 35%. A striking fact involving religion is the high number of Laureates of the Jewish faith - over 20% of total Nobel Prizes (138); including: 17% in Chemistry, 26% in Medicine and Physics, 40% in Economics and 11% in Peace and Literature each. The numbers are especially startling in light of the fact that only some 14 million people (0.2% of the world's population) are Jewish. By contrast, only 5 Nobel Laureates have been of the Muslim faith-0.8% of total number of Nobel prizes awarded - from a population base of about 1.2 billion (20% of the world‘s population)._ so to say that atheism is scientific and religion not (btw: atheism is a religion too) is factchecked: FALSE when you examen this data where atheists are put together with agnostics and freethinkers that are rejected by atheists, then atheism has FAR less then 5% of nobel prizes. also that from that
I find it annoying when Atheists include anyone into atheism for the purpose of not having to defend their own view and for the purpose of appearing like a large group. But when they make statements it is always that narrow and very shallow new atheism which is nothing more than a Dillahunty dodge most of the time. They don't use the category of Atheism as a label to make things more clear. They use it as a shield to confuse the conversation partner.
@@reality1958 That's because science isn't about God, it's about creation. What's funny is that when Christians founded modern science, that's exactly what they made as a point. namely: [1] That the universe was *created* by God; [2] That because human beings are created in God´s image, we can understand the universe; [3] That learning about the *creation* tells us something about the creator; and [4] that understanding the universe is a form of worship so... btw: in the 90´s when the dead-sea-scrolls was found there was an scientific articel saying that the foundings of that scrolls confirm the christian faith. why? because the timeparadox in the bible was confirmed. because in the old testament (that was written over a period of 1400years) is a red thread about the king messaih and what he will do. also what we will do to him (nail him). and how this will change everything. so precise, that it tells over time the whole gosple of Christ that took place later. coverd in the scrpiture. but because we had no older copy then the actual event (~30aD), we couldnt confirm that timeparadox until we found the dead-sea-scroll (old testament carbondated 300BC). so that beeing *"I AM"* from the old testament (who said he will become flesh and the savior of the world) knew the future without fail in every detail. and science make it very clear, that by the laws of nature (math/physics/spacetime) every creature is bound, *timetravel* back in time is absolut IMPOSSIBLE for every creature in the universe. and that is the paradox, because the bible tould the story so presice, that it is impossible by math via chance. absoulut impossible. and that confirm, that this beeing *"I AM"* from the bible not only knows the future, but also have to stand OUTSIDE/above the universe and it´s laws every creature is bound in. but there are also more scientific evidence for a supreme beeing (God). but they are not specific evidence for God of the bible but in gerneral. for example the finetuning of our universe and the fact, that the natural constants dont change but should and nobody know why. that is why atheists came up with "mulitverses" that dosnt disproof God at all but is the ONLY chance left for atheism to be not False. and that is a fairytale because it can never be proven right or wrong and mostly based on logicfailures.
I think there could be another influence on intelligence: Urbanization. Intelligent people tend to go to more urban environments due to education and higher paying jobs. But urban environments are highly abstract environments where humans can control to a large degree what the environment should look like. I don't mean the individual humans. I mean humans as a group. We are isolated from nature when we live in a city. Because of that urban people are less likely to be in contact with the book of nature, which proclaims Gods glory. So we can more easily believe what we want to be true instead of what nature tells us to be true. It is just a speculation on my part though so take it with a grain of salt.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
What I’m saying is that it’s a figurehead for the Thunderfoot/AronRa crowd. They talk a big game about logic and stuff, but are as asinine as any theist. They think reason is something you write on the wall: you don’t actually practice it.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... .... ...
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
The answer to the question is no. You know why, because atheism is body, but not mind and spirit. It removes accountability and conscience. It removes the power of faith. Which is expressed in connection to God. Without feeling the need to please God and follow supernatural laws you will have a big problem living life and overcoming obstacles and getting productive support.
THANK YOU for bringing up the intelligence argument. It's so pretentious and nonsensical, they sound like old 19th century anthropologists talking about how much more awesome their group of people are biologically than others. I also love to use that analytical side of my brain to reinforce my religiosity, specifically I've been learning a lot more about developing practices of Abrahamic Mysticism through the Millennia. I'm trying to find more English resources on Ibn Arabi and extra Sufi resources on Wahdat al wajud, or the Unity of Being, and how it overlaps with the Practice of Sama (Sufi music, it means to listen, cognates with Shma In the Shma Israel fun fact.) My only response to these Atheists is to simply ask their IQ score, which will almost always be lower than mine, before I state my own (131) and tell them why the IQ test is only a measurement of certain modes of thought and analysis, instead of a comprehensive score intellectual potential. So it shouldn't matter. Funny story though, once I did this, turns out his was 133, so, it doesn't ALWAYS work, but in those situations, I found out it's best to say you'll tell them why it doesn't matter before you ask, just in case that happens. You don't wanna accidentally make a fool of yourself like I did, just show in those cases that you're simply no less intelligent on a religious basis. 😅
How did you find out your IQ? I did the online Mensa test twice (a year apart) and I got 125 and 135 when doing it. It wasn't the actual mensa exam. It was just the online version which you can do for fun. At least it is from the actual organization and it is calibrated around the 130 level. Also the military recruitment had an IQ test where I got full marks. Although that one didn't come with an IQ number. At least they didn't show it to me. I do think if you don't do an IQ examination professionally then the possible range is quite large. Especially if it is just some random online exam. So if I have to say mine I will go with 125 as it roughly fits with my experience. Anyways, an IQ of 130 means one out of 50 people have the same IQ or a higher one. So I don't think that would count as particularly smart. It's decent, but nothing to be proud of. But the entire argument is a stupid one. Let's assume IQ is all that matters. If that was the case then we would have to take the smartest person who exists and ask him what his opinion is. Anyone disagreeing with him is wrong because they disagree with the smartest man. There is only one small problem. High IQ correlates with psychological problems, it doesn't prevent bias and if you are convinced of something then you are way more likely to find some random pattern to rationalize your ideas. I like being smart and it is pretty useful in certain situations. But it's about as important as being tall or being attractive. Useful in some aspects of life but it neither makes you more virtuous nor more valuable.
@@philippbrogli779 - So, I grew up, I was among those with special needs. When I was in eighth grade, I was made to take a proper IQ test so they could find out what to expect for my IEP, which is like a personal plan a special needs student has with a counselor to work on their goals. I couldn't tell you which exact IQ test I took at that time, because I didn't know there were different IQ tests at that time. But for reference, I'm class of 2021, so the summer after my 8th grade would have been 5 years ago, just under 6. So I'm way past due for a new test, but I've never actually gotten around to take an actual proper IQ test since then, only online approximates.
@@wes4736 I would say the one from eight grade was a proper one. But during brain development the IQ changes to some degree. Online IQ tests should not be taken at face value. After all their goal is traffic, not accuracy. And people getting high IQ scores gives more traffic than the accurate ones. Also IQ tests are always calibrated for a specific range. So if you do an IQ test which is targeted at an IQ of 100, then you will be in an area where the IQ is not as accurate anymore, even in a proper test. That's why I have some level of confidence in the online mensa one. For one it is by a proper organization and their entry requirement is 130. So it is most likely calibrated to that range. I took the Mensa Norway one. But even there I got a difference of 10 IQ points. To be fair, on my first try I just went through it without looking at the questions a second time, even though I would have had the time to do so. So the actual range is probably closer together and closer to 135.
IP, you’ve showed interest in appearing on popular podcasts before and tim pool seemed interested when a super chat mentioned you. I know I for one would love to watch you as a guest.
The most intelligent race of all, Ashkenazi Jews, happened to also be about the most religious aswell. The most intelligent race of all is the founding ethnic group that gave the world the abrahamic religions. Funny how that worked 😊
I've met Atheists I respect. But in none of those cases was that respect founded on their atheism. It was generally either because atheism was completely irrelevant in that aspect or despite their atheism.
The average reddit atheist thinks so. Even though they can't figure out how to shave, take a shower, run on a treadmill, or fill out a job application.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ...
I have personally experienced your take on a related note. In my nation, the culture there is leaning further and further left. I acknowledge that Christianity has demonstrable historicity so the comparison isn't exactly apples to apples. However, the similarity is that the mindset/philosophy is also dominant and therefore, the followers of the ideological "woke" crowd are constantly having their beliefs reinforced without challenge. Conversely, those of those who do not subscribe to their way of thinking are constantly challenged and therefore, our arguments will be far more refined and prepared during a debate. It is quite the turn of events when one group once thought to be the intellectuals and the other thought to be simpletons turn out to both actually be the opposite. Great video as always!
_our arguments will be far more refined and prepared during a debate._ Heh, heh. Right. Arguments like "Woke! Woke! Woke! Woke!," huh? Sorry, but you ruined your own argument with that silly "woke" nonsense.
Billy...not sure who fed that belief to you but....using a word you don't like doesn't ruin an argument. There are a multitude of things you should be sorry for; your inability to realize using terminology you don't like is undoubtedly the least of them. Again, the "woke" audience that typically uses emotional and cannot substantiate their worldviews when challenged simply lash out as a response. So..thank you for proving my point. (wink).
@@whatareyoulookingat908 _not sure who fed that belief to you_ Huh? *What* belief? What are you _talking_ about? "LOL" means "laughing out loud." I wasn't arguing with you, because you weren't really making an argument. I was just laughing at you. Now, I wasn't so much laughing at _you,_ since I don't know you, as I was laughing at the right-wing idiots who just use "woke" as a buzzword for anything they don't like. After all, even _they_ don't know what they mean by it. That's because it's just a slur. It's just tribal, a way to distinguish "us" from "them." It doesn't actually _mean_ anything. Now, admittedly, that makes it better than most of the other slurs which "political correctness" made it difficult for them to say out loud without risking criticism. Remember that? Remember how terrible it was to be "politically correct"? Heh, heh. Remember how furious right-wingers were that they couldn't even call someone a... well, an ethnic slur without getting criticized? But now it's "woke." What does it _mean?_ Nothing. I mean, sure, if you're a decent human being, you're "woke," I suppose. If you don't think your neighbor's private life is any of _your_ business, you're "woke"? If you don't want government bureaucrats patrolling private bedrooms or between a person and their doctor, you're "woke"? But it doesn't actually _mean_ anything. It's just a way to be tribal. It's just a way to distinguish "us" from "them." And you *HATE* "them," because they're not part of your tribe. (Again, I'm not talking about "you" personally, since I don't know you.) That's why I laugh at you. "Woke" is just a nonsense word you can use in any situation to distinguish _your_ tribe from other people. _Your_ tribe isn't "woke." You don't really _care_ what that means, because what it really means is "other." But hey, this video is about atheism. That's the only reason why I saw it. They _invited_ atheists, and I'm an atheist. I don't know why _you're_ here, but I enjoy talking to people who disagree with me about religion. So, if you're a theist, let's talk about religion. You say, "the followers of the ideological "woke" crowd are constantly having their beliefs reinforced without challenge." Obviously, that doesn't apply to _me_ or I wouldn't even be here. Maybe _you_ go to atheist sites in order to have your beliefs challenged, I don't know. (I suspect not, since most theists seem absolutely terrified of actually talking to an atheist, but again, I don't know you.) But I _do_ go to religious sites - Christian and Muslim alike - for that reason. So, are you a theist? Do you believe in a god? If so, which god or gods? And do you have one piece of good evidence that any god is real, rather than merely imaginary? Just *one,* specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Let's talk.
I’m smarter than a lot of my class and I’m in the gifted and talented, yet I’m still Christian, and some things “smart” atheists say are things that I can debunk!
@@Theo_Skeptomai yes, the world had to have been created on purpose, the chances of it being created coincidentally are so low, there are so many intricate systems that would destroy earth if you just slightly moved them
I was watching a live of an Italian guy arguing that the Old Testament is mythology and that everyone who believes in the Exodus should go to a psychiatric clinic. In my mind I was wondering: "Are you saying that Kenneth Kitchen doesnt know his stuff???". By the way this video is an antidote as always. Thank you IP for your ministry
That's weird psychopaths are usually male but women are generally more religious and believe in this stuff. In fact there was a study where researchers gave old men testosterone and they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why
@@reality1958 well the morality of the OT is not the point of my comment. Neverthless, there are several books and scholars that already analyzed it and gave it an answer. Just watch the last video of “What your pastor didn’t tell you” for example
**ATHEIST IRONY** - I'm often amazed/perplexed at how many atheists feel the need to humiliate their religious conversational partners rather than simply point out purported logical/reasoning errors. Personally humiliating someone is illogical, vindictive and strictly an emotional driver. It serves zero logical purpose in an actual conversation where 'mutual respect' grounds the integrity of the debated subject. To be wholly frank I'm often amazed at the unrestrained arrogance and bravado whom a good many atheists I personally know actually embody. AAA (i.e., actualized atheist arrogance) does more to turn reasonable people off from debating atheists than perhaps any other single conversational quality. People who have convinced themselves that they are always the 'smartest people' in the room/chat/Zoom call consistently feel no need or urgency to actually critically listen to what their conversational partner is saying/connoting. Thankfully 'hardcore' atheists often let you know extremely quickly if they view you as being nothing more than a simpleton religious moron. Attempting to have an engaged and rigorous conversation/debate with such a person is almost always counter productive in the end. I'm willing to debate and listen to anyone... except someone who unrelentingly insists on mocking/insulting/shaming/belittling me from the get-go. This obviously does not describe all atheist encounters or atheist debates! :)
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ...
No. Its worse still: Usually (99% of the time) they can't even articulate the other sides argument correctly. Often they cannot even describe the religion properly.
@The Rick nope. You've just illustrated my point.. because the reverse cannot happen. It's a technical reason why - the issues revolve about there being no "arguments for atheism," so as there aren't any positive/deductive arguments FOR athiesm, how can a theist be accused of not knowing their substance in a refutation? When they make no actual claims. Just rebut others claims. Whereas good conversations like "is athiesm a religion?" are clawed at. Despite it having It's apostates punished, having a creation myth, an end of the world doomsday belief system, refusing to share ground with other religions, recuits law to attack other religions (blasphemy laws), it prosletyses and financially rewards those who do and it has high priests who ensure conformity
@@con_boy sigh. I didn’t make your point but you did help demonstrate how it can be turned around. And obviously there’s some differences. Atheism is just a position. Someone can make an argument for why they hold that position. Because if no one can make an argument for atheism then no one can make one for theism. Atheism isn’t a religion. That’s not a good conversation. Atheism has a creation myth? What is it? It has an end of the world doomsday belief system? What is it? Do share how atheism is a religion and all those things you listed.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... ....
@Gamefan86 that is all 70s rubbish. No one believes any of that. Looks like you're a long way from educated. Look up Gary Habermas and his work on "minimal facts argument" - basically we have the first sermon ever preached and it was 17 years after the cross, in Corinth and it had DEATH DEITY RESURRECTION in it. When Christians were about 1,200 in number in Jerusalem
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ...
Atheist here. I don't think theists are less intelligent as such. But over the years of debating with theists, I see some consistent patterns: 1) A whole lot depends upon your upbringing. The best religion is the one that I grew up in. The "I was an atheist...' stories you often see in RUclips is really not 'atheist to X religion' conversion, it is actually 'I was an irrereligious drunk who never cared for religion'' kinda story. 2) Religious people often can't escape their confirmation bias and are trapped in their own eco chambers. This is specially true for Muslims, rather than Christians. No amount of convincing would convince them. If only I could get one dollar every time someone deleted their comment secretly and pretend that nothing has happened when their forced to confront their one logic! 3) Related to the second point: is the narrow focus of their understanding of the world. As a former evangelical, many of Christians friends have never talked to a real atheist. Or even read books on evolution. But they would surely have read all books by Lee Strobel. 4) Finally, I have seen that atheists generally give importance to ideas, while theists prioritise people. For a theist "Who said that" is more important than "What he said". The sheer number of times I have seen quotes being used as arguments is astonishing.
If you don't accurately and most importantly *consistently* evaluate peoples' testimony then you as an atheist are free to move the goalpost for evidence litterally however you want. This is why giving the appropriate importance and weight to the source of a claim is probably brought up to you, it's because we see most atheists applying inconsistent standards on that front. But if you are more interested in ideas then claims, then how about this: 1-moral facts exist 2-contingent things exist 3-any model that explains both those brute facts is more valuable than any combination of models that explain them individually 4-no atheist model explains both 1 and 2 5-IF there is a theistic model that explains both 1 and 2, then it is superior to any atheist model.
respectfuldebates7144 I don't see those one-sided patterns. I've talked to lots of people, atheists, agnostics, religious people of many kinds. Point 1 - may be true in many cases. But I'm not in the religion I grew up in - I had a lot of opposition when I switched. I know of loads of people who've switched from christianity to islam, and vice versa, full on atheists to christianity or islam, and vice versa - - - Point 2 - also is true in many cases, but I see plenty of confirmation bias in atheists too. I had a long discussion with an atheist colleague about a point he misunderstood and misrepresented, explained it thoroughly to him, after which he just repeated his original statement. But I see plenty of openness from both sides too ! Point 3 - Yes, I've talked to several real atheists. Watched lots of atheists' videos, and been impressed by the more balanced, less biased ones. And I've read lots about evolution, which I don't have a problem with btw. And I've read Dawkins' "The God Delusion" - read it twice actually, thought I must've missed something - Never even heard of Lee Strobel. Point 4 - ok, people like to quote people they admire. The people I know, however, use quotes because they put the idea they want to express across more eloquently than they could themselves. And yes, I wish they would use their own words and tell their own stories, but we're not all good speakers, and that doesn't mean we don't have good ideas. The thing that impressed me most about the belief I chose was the concepts, not the people by any means. Sure, there are smart atheists. There's also a lot of smart religious people. And there's religious people who are following the tribe - and atheists doing the same. Noticing your name, I hope you take this in the spirit it's given =o)
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... ....
@@GoToLiturgy not all kids, but many are very conflicted. Most teens struggle with hormones, lust, embarrassment, and peer pressure, making following the law very hard
Being smart doesn’t mean not being wrong. Likewise being stupid doesn’t prevent someone from being right. If a man says the earth was created before the sun but has a high IQ it doesn’t make him right. He’s a smart wrong man
The sun being created before the earth is compeltley factual though. You cannot simply dismiss things in the Bible because of how absurd they sound to secualr standards. The first line in all of scripture reads, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." If you believe in that first like, you would have zero issue believing the rest of the Bible. A God powerful enough to create all that exists is powerful enough to bring to reality all the other things the described in the Bible. Many atheists point to lines of the Bible that they say are ridiculous and could never happen, like ones of donkeys talking and staves turning into snakes, but the idea of a God capable of creating the universe, yet NOT being able to do any of these things makes no sense. It's not all of these things in the Bible they just can't believe. It's really just that first one that fuels their disbelief in the rest.
The personification of Wisdom as a wealthy, generous, benevolent woman (Proverbs 9:1-5) calls those who are simple and lacking good judgment to leave ignorance behind. Instead, they can take what she offers, resulting in life. Scripture makes it clear that true wisdom does not begin with intelligence or education; it starts with respect for God (Proverbs 1:7; 9:10). Those who seek God's truth can grow in godly wisdom, even if they were lacking sense beforehand (Proverbs 8:5). In a very similar way, basic spiritual insight requires a proper relationship with God (1 Corinthians 2:14).
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. ..
I would say education plays also a role in that. And my main argument for that is the Flynn effect. But we peaked when it comes to that one and we are on the decline again.
Reddit users, instead of using the downfall of Reddit to actually go outside, instead decide to come to Christian youtube channels to have their arguments.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ... ....
Even hotter take: logic-based reasoning isn't the only good/useful form of intelligence. If you've cut yourself off from intuition, this may be hard to relate to. Intuition is extremely under-appreciated in general.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic. He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on. The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin" The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind" The sun is "The light of the World" The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea. "He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays. Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo. The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes. The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens. Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun. Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. .. .. ...
Our current political climate and with its many outlandish views, confirmation bias, and absolute aversion and disdain for objective reasoning from "Intellectuals" today is very ironic and proves your point perfectly.
Short answer: No Long answer: My idea on this can be argued for but I currently have no evidence for it. Atheism gained a rise in popularity for several reasons, however we do find that poorer and less developed countries are more religious because its a good supportive system, however countries that are less developed generally have lower iQ. So in this case, the iQ of a person in a well developed country holds none to very little influence on their religious beliefs. I am myself an agnostic, but I would not say that I am so because I am more or less intelligent than other people, simply that I am for one or more reasons not convinced by a particular faith and that my reasoning lead me to this view. Poor and underdeveloped country = more likely to be religious Poor and underdeveloped country = a tendency for low iQ due to poor education. Rich and developed country = Not as likely to be religious, but its not due to iQ Rich and developed country = A tendency for higher iQ but not (or limited) relation to religion.
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 There are studies that show education does go hand in hand with the development of iQ. A person still has a floor and roof of their potential iQ, I could never reach someone like Stephen Hawking, but without my education my iQ would be untapped potential.
I think education has a lot to do with their beliefs. Not because education = irreligiousness, but rather than what's being taught causes them to not believe in a God. Atheism is definitely taught in modern schools, and certainly has an impact on faith and outlook on life. For even the Bible acknowledges this in Proverbs 22:6, though I guess it also applies to the wrong things too.
I think Atheism has something to do with urbanism. People who live on the countryside think there are power higher than them and people who live in an urban environment have abstracted their life to the degree that they can believe anything they want. And it is a pretty appealing believe that there is nothing higher than us in the universe and given enough time we can explain anything and build a tool for everything. Or in other words _"That is an idea so stupid, only an academic could have thought of it."_ (I forgot who that quote is from) I don't mean to call atheism stupid. I think Atheism is pretty counterintuitive though. After all it makes quite a few claims which goes against what most of humans belief, if they observe the nature with whatever means they have. With the claim I just did I don't want to say Atheism is wrong or religiosity is correct. My argument just now is not capable of finding out the truth of reality. It is just a hypothesis for why more city dwellers are atheists than rural people. And if that is a true claim then it is pretty obvious why the average intelligence of Atheist is higher. Intelligent people go to cities due to better work and education. And people tend to belief what the people surrounding them belief. So if cities have a higher probability of making people atheists, then intelligent people are more likely atheist.
@@fatstrategist My school did not teach atheism, and I doubt schools do. They may teach a multitude of religions to give a broader view but they don't condone atheism.
I was heavily involved in the atheist community for years, right up until I went to the Reason Rally in 2012. A lot happened there, but suffice to say meeting some of the atheists and talking to them face to face made me take a deep look at myself.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Knowledge [throne] extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Quran 2. 255 please study Islam .
I was an atheist a few years ago, but over time I came to the conclusion that the way how our universe is structured and fine tuned, evolution not being random and nonsensical, but rather following some direction and rules, as well, as the fact of nonexistense of space-time before the Big Bang and it requiring something to create it, made me realise that it is illogical to assume the nonexistense of the intelligent Creator. I came to belief based on rational thinking and logic rather than following any religious texts.
I’m sorry but a lot of what you said comes off personal incredulity and not accurate. Take for example the “the fact of nonexistence of space time before the Big Bang”….that’s not a fact. We don’t know what was or wast before the BB.
@@therick363 , ok, sorry for that oversight, so I agree that it's not a fact, but one of scientific theories, I know that, but I'm using that theory to draw my conclusions from it, based on a conclusion that before space-time there was no time, since universe is a 4dimensional construct that involves 3dimensions of space and one of time, therefore based on that we can assume that before the BB there was no space-time, as a possibility. Of course science constantly evolves and new theories come out over time, replacing even previously established ones. Of course I could be wrong, since it's impossible to know with certainty what exactly was before the BB. It's up to you to believe what was or wasn't before it, it's a personal matter after all. All I said about a Creator is also just a theory and the idea of it is also just a theory and not a fact, but I choose to believe that theory because it seems plausible and likely to me.
@@steelbreaker25but you’re still acting like what you’re saying is the most likely conclusion about before the Big Bang and it isn’t. The correct thing to say is we don’t know.
@@therick363 I feel more comfortable when we can assume some theory rather than say that we just don't know. What I mean is that I just think so and hold this belief, of course I could be wrong, but until there is any way it can be proven and I can be proven wrong, I agree to disagree.
1 Corinthians chapter 1:18-31; Daniel 4:37; Colossians 2; Ephesians 2:8; John 4:24. No one can reason God. That wouldn't be God, but mere intellect. Intellect and faith are two parallel lines, they do not meet, save only at the cross. Then they must either part from one another or intellect stops and becomes part of it.
My kids and i talk about this a lot because I'm not a believer and they are. (Don't ask me how, idk) They find that their peers who wish to think of themselves as more sophisticated and intelligent will call themselves atheists. My argument is that even atheists must engage in faith in order to make new discoveries in scientific research. A few decades ago, a group of researchers declared that there must be at least 12 other dimensions that we simply don't have the tools to observe directly. They can't prove it, but they believe they exist and they were a group of mathematicians and quantum theorists. If they believe that mathematicians and quantum theorists are idiots because they believe in something they can't see, what more is there to say?
IQ scores aswell intelligence in of itself are rather nonsensical, as the brain encompasses all kinds of functionalities, such as mathematics or music.
As an atheist I was proud of my intellect.
As a Christian I'm ashamed of my arrogance.
@@EvilXtianity You won't provoke me.
GOD bless
This hits hard. Humility is the antidote to intellectual pride
@@EvilXtianityI converted to Christianity from a Full Blown Ethical Nihilist Atheism and even Antitheism. I have no shame, because Jesus Christ has forgiven me.
@@EvilXtianity meds now.
'For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
For it is written,
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”
- 1 Corinthians 1:18-19
Maybe more intelligent people are more prone to bias because their intelligence leads them to become arrogant, and therefore more stubborn against opposing views.
Maybe
@@InspiringPhilosophy Didn't you do a video over bias and atheism?
Perhaps, but i would rather think its because of the humanist bias that became apart of education after the enlightenment, which lead to the postmodernism that exists in education nowadays.
@@iagoofdraiggwyn98 That mixed in with people of the same ideology checking each other, like an echo chamber
well.. read this:
_Distribution of Nobel Prizes by religion between 1901-2000, the data tooks from Baruch A. Shalev, 100 Years of Nobel Prizes (2003), Atlantic Publishers & Distributors, p.59 and p.57: between 1901 and 2000 reveals that 654 Laureates belong to 28 different religion. Most 65.4% have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference. Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards._
_While separating Roman Catholic from Protestants among Christians proved difficult in some cases, available information suggests that more Protestants were involved in the scientific categories and more Catholics were involved in the Literature and Peace categories._
_Atheists, agnostics, and freethinkers comprise 10.5% of total Nobel Prize winners; but in the category of Literature, these preferences rise sharply to about 35%. A striking fact involving religion is the high number of Laureates of the Jewish faith - over 20% of total Nobel Prizes (138); including: 17% in Chemistry, 26% in Medicine and Physics, 40% in Economics and 11% in Peace and Literature each. The numbers are especially startling in light of the fact that only some 14 million people (0.2% of the world's population) are Jewish. By contrast, only 5 Nobel Laureates have been of the Muslim faith-0.8% of total number of Nobel prizes awarded - from a population base of about 1.2 billion (20% of the world‘s population)._
that show that atheism is the second most stupid religion but got the best possible start then all others. not like islaam that have a poor educating system compared to the west (most best educating system and best universities most of them christian monastiers like oxford, yale, harvard, stanford, ect. ect.)
also that judeo/christians (who invented modern science) inherit more then 85% of ALL nobel prizes but in contrast atheism far less then 5% nobel prizes (most of them in litrature and not even scientific).
and what kind of litrature atheists come with =
- man can be woman
- critical race theory (rascism)
- religion is against science
- everything came from nothing
- religion is evil and the maincause of wars
and then examen the atheist claim that religion (they also belong to) are by default evil and the cause of all wars.
because history show, that atheistic beliefs and their idi0logies are the most vi0lent, dehumanicing, gen0cidal, chlidabusing /-sacrificing /-mutalating of ALL beliefs because secular wars are atheistic wars where socialists forced their idi0logie against the will of the ppl on all by deception and deceiving.
“Well, I’m not biased. And you can test that.” Aron Ra
Yeah, he failed that test.
People like Ra, well one besides being admitted atheist Satanists, think that because there is the existence of fundamentalists they can easily pick apart (such as YECs) they make an association fallacy and assume all religious people are like that. That fills their ego and make them feel superior leading to even more bias and lack of ability to self reflect on it.
I'm almost tempted suggested we should deplatform Ra for misinformation
WHAT IS PISTIS ARON. ARON WHAT IS IT????
@@reality1958 Aron Ra absolutely does not go by the evidence. In a debate with IP he openly said he would go with his own experience rather than the many studies that IP presented
The average Reddit atheists are surely not 🤣
The vast majority of Western atheists aren't, especially the ones that LOVE bringing up Hitler and connecting him with Christianity while comveniently ignoring the IJA.
@@EvilXtianity There is more than enough evidence for that, just look into it. Believe me, you are no where near as smart as you think you are.
@@EvilXtianity what zombie? Who believes in a zombie? The walking dead fans?
Internet Atheism has always produced trolls.
@@EvilXtianity Tacitus and Josephus wrote about him. If you don't accept that as evidence, then you should also reject the historicity of Alexander the Great, since the sources we have about him write much later than the sources of Jesus.
Also, please give me one single reason why Paul would make up a figure like Jesus, only for him to be imprisoned, tourtured and brutaly killed for that. What did he gain? Even atheist/agnostic Bible scholars like Bart Ehrmann would think your arguments are completly ridicoulus.
As a Christian who specializes in mathematical statistics, I really appreciate your use of the normal curve and suggesting the difference in believers and atheists might be non distinguishable based on effect size
A Christian who specializes in mathematical statistics but thinks the Trinity equals one 🧐
@Bee Jae 3 persons, 1 being. Not even religious but its not that difficult to grasp.
@@darkwolf7740 If you have a functional brain then it is hard to grasp. It’s simple mathematics.
@Bee Jae your body is not your mind, your mind is not your soul, your soul is not your body. However they are all you.
You're a trinity, too
@@She_iswise lol you don’t understand the doctrine if you’re staring it like that.
Funny. In the area I grew up all the most intelligent kids were raised in Christian families. From my friend group all are still Christians and are things like CEO, Owner of their own company, software developer, QA engineer, Librarian, college professor, CPA among other professions and have thriving families.
Practicing these beliefs is important because they are fundamental to a better life
@@reyis_here945 especially for women
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov college campuses are proof of this
I actually think that you will see this trend grow more and more as time goes on because Christians are for the most part the only ones still living the lifestyle that is most beneficial to raising healthy and intelligent children. Namely married mother and father in the home, and if not outright homeschooling definitely being more mindful and taking an interest in what their child is learning in school and being more choosy about what school they go to.
Whereas in secular households you're more likely to find single-parenthood, which we know has a negative impact on a child's development.
@Rey Is_Here well women generally are more religious than men and studies find that when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why. I know I personally would prefer a religous partner over a secular one because frankly I think religous women are more feminine than non religious ones and it's not just me it's scientifically proven as well that they are
Sounds like there's a very thin line between pride and intelligence and sometimes people play jump rope with it.
Lol, thank you for putting it that way.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 there is not one reputable scholar that believes this atheist or Christian.
@@ThecrosseyedTexanTrue, it would be nice to see you rebut some of this guy’s claims though, instead of just making a statement.
@@Gamefan86wrong. reality is fractal. this means that the micro is the same as the macro. as above so below. you can test how true something is by seeing how well it fits into this axiom of reality. Jesus Christ being God in the flesh on earth and having 12 disciples, is reflected in the heavens by the sun having 12 zodiacal signs. literally as above so below in this instance, but you will see evidence of this literally everywhere. fibonacci sequence is present in micro and macro, electric currents behave like water currents, the brain looks like the universe, etc…
As an atheist this was incredibly refreshing to hear. I was half expecting the colloquial "bashing" but it very quickly delved deep into rationality.
I've never thought the argument made any sense in the first place, chiefly because of some of the reasons you mention, but it was good listening to the whole set of reasons, some I hadn't considered.
I appreciate the video.
It is nice to hear that from one of you guys.
One question that you don't need to answer me but only to yourself.
If Jesus came at you when you die and told you that he will save you but you will have to truly repent for your wrong doings.
Will you accept or try and save yourself in your way.
@MauricioLSB This is such a weird question because not only do you have to assume that--not God, but Jesus (?), is real and that he somehow exists outside of nature, but you also have to assume I have wrongdoings that I need to repent from, and for what end? To be saved? From what? I was a Catholic and a Christian for 20 years and this makes no sense.
However, if a god truly does exist, regardless of which one it is, I will have definitive proof once I die and I'll have no option but to play his game by his own rules. If "Jesus" comes to me and tells me he doesn't care if I lived a good or bad life, as long as I repent from what he thinks I should repent from, to save me from what he'll do to me if I don't repent, then I have no option but to repent, do I?
I guess you should ask yourself the same question, what if Allah is real and sends you to Jahannam for not being a Muslim?
What if Buddhism is true and your beliefs and adherence to religious tenets are grounding you from reaching Nirvana?
And that's only two of the thousands of religions out there...
@@wax99 Your atheism and criticisms against religion are the most basic and refutable within atheism, you say that you are an atheist because according to you, Catholicism does not make sense based on your experience, but in reality what does not make sense is your atheism, so it is. , that you twist Pascal's argument like the typical atheist does, to begin with we do not assume that Jesus and God exist, they exist regardless of what you think, on my face antimaterialism page I show evidence of the existence of GOD ranging from biology and intelligent design as well as refutations of atheistic disteleology, also the historicity of different religions such as Christianity and Jesus, denying their historicity is just as ignorant as denying hol caust, in addition to showing the miracles of Jesus, and evidence of parapsychology that shows the irrefutable existence of the spiritual and of God, evidence such as poltergeist, verifiable out-of-body experiences that literally include seeing God, and that are later verified with details that were impossible to see or capture while unconscious and that happened on the spot , etc., as for the argument that if you don't believe in such a religion you're going to hell is an atheistic straw argument, most religions don't say that if you don't believe in them you're going to go to hell, in fact with that Knowing that God and the spiritual world are real is enough, and if you are an atheist who denied the spiritual world that is bad because you assume that all your relatives and strangers will cease to exist forever and that people who suffered many injustices in life will never have relief that is not very different than wishing death to someone so in the afterlife, atheism and agnosticism is punished yes or yes.
@@wax99 I think your worldview is very intelligent but I have things I wanna tell you.
Jesus or אֱלָהִין (Yeshua) is regarded as a historical figure. historians don't believe he was divine though, their view of Jesus Jewish people; believe a jew who wanted to lead a revolt against the roman empire.
Most likely I believe we are designed. our components, even down to an organic cellular level just seem too designed, intricate and functional. not only that the precision of the universe is very hard to wrap around. after the big bang certain mathematical constants had to be set to incredibly precise numbers in order for life to appear.
"the odds of our universe having the right conditions for life are is 1 in 10^10^123" - Physicist Sir Roger Penrose
it's actually much more likely for the universe to be a thick ball of matter containing hydrogen gas.
the universe is very finely tuned.
like it or not there is a lot of consistency throughout the biblical recordings from different authors. lots of each book in the OT and NT are incredibly consistent with the belief structure of god. there is lots of recorded fulfilled prophecy's, symbolism referencing scripture, and historical accuracy.
take what you want from this and I would love to see how you would view these claims.
wonderful day to you sir.
@@wax99 Let me rephrase his question.
If Jesus Christ came down to you, and said, "Believe unto Me and you shall be saved," would you do it?
The only repentance Jesus wishes from you is to turn your mind from unbelief to belief in Him. Salvation in Christianity is misunderstood or even twisted. Salvation is not a reward, it's a gift. It's by God's Grace we are saved through faith. Now, as for any wrongdoings to repent from: there is only one, and that wrongdoing is trying to save yourself. The Bible makes it clear that it is not by works you are saved. Especially since one sin, no matter what type it is, will send you to Hell. And no amount of works will save you from that.
But if you believe unto Jesus, then you are saved. Well, now what? You can do good works without any burden. Yeah, James 2 says "faith without works is dead", but looking at the context of James, it's not justification before God, but justification before your fellow man. If you want justification before God, accept His Grace, through faith. His Grace is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Nothing that we mortal men can do will make it or earn Salvation. It is accepted. The only repentance is to turn from unbelief to belief. Anyone who says, "repent of your sins" is teaching a false doctrine, because they don't give an explanation of: how many times to repent, what sin to repent, does it count for future sins, is it multiple sins, is it the sins forgotten, what about dementia? This is why Salvation, in reality, is easy, what the heretics call "easy believism", which is Bible Doctrine anyways: to believe unto the Lord Jesus for Salvation, nothing more.
I'm a PhD. I work with PhDs and MDs all day long. Many non-believers and a few mostly-secular believers. I see lots of people who are very good at applying very narrow kinds of critical and analytical thinking within their field of expertise, but the second you step outside of their expertise even slightly, the analytical/critical thinking goes to almost 0. Certainly some are more well rounded, but it's uncomfortable how many seem incapable of operating outside of a very narrow margin. All specific intelligence, virtually no general intelligence.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Wanna put yours to a test?
@@Gamefan86 lmao no. We can look back on the earliest accounts and see that is not true.
@@Gamefan86is this the owner of that tik tok account i keep seeing?
@Gamefan86 Except Paul makes it clear that the ressurection literally happened, and that faith is pointless if it didn't literally happened, and thousands of early Christians were tortured and killed for claiming it literally happened, and all the archaeological evidence supports it literally happened. Also, the whole "sun" rising vs "son" is a pun that only works in English, not in ancient Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Come on, you should be smarter than this.
Someone should have told Leonardo da Vinci, Isaac Newton, and other great thinkers, that they're dumb compared to the highly intelligent atheists.
Newton, Fermet, and others were morons. They gave us nothing.
Plato, aristotle, aquinas.
Is almost as if the concept of God is one discovered by reason and philosophy!
How crazy!
Thank you for this, God bless you. ❤
I know more about the universe than Leonardo da Vinci and Isaac Newton. It's not even _close._ That's not because I'm more intelligent than they were, of course. But I still know far more about the world and the universe than they did.
And, of course, Leonardo da Vinci would have been burned alive if he'd publicly doubted the existence of the god he'd been taught to believe as a child. Isaac Newton would just have been hanged, probably. (Thomas Aikenhead, age 20, was hanged for blasphemy in 1697. And as Muslim countries today have discovered, you don't have to murder _too_ many people in order to keep everyone else quiet about their doubts.)
So, even if the great thinkers of the past _had_ doubted the party line, they would have been smart enough not to admit it, don't you think?
Of course, like you, they were taught to believe in their religion as a child and probably really, really _wanted_ it to be true. But unlike those of us these days, they never got a chance to even hear an argument from nonbelievers.
Theists today _do_ have that chance. Of course, they seldom want to take advantage of it. But I suppose that's just too scary, especially when you already have doubts. And many Christians have told me that they don't _care_ if their religious beliefs are true or not, because they want to believe that stuff anyway.
@@Bill_Garthright What you know about the universe, is it simply what you've been told, or indoctrinated with, same as you accuse theists of doing?You say that you've met Christians who want to believe regardless if it's true or not, I've met and seen videos of atheists admitting that they wouldn't believe even if Christianity was proven to be true. Andrew Tate once said that by people believing in GOD and behaving better than if they didn't believe, they make GOD real because of the real world effects that their believing has. Some people are better off believing than not believing. Clinically diagnosed psychopath David Wood is a prime example. I recommend watching his video "why I'm Christian" for an interesting look into the mind of a psychopath.
It's an odd assumption that higher intelligence would remove bias.
Lucifer was one of the most intelligent and beautiful creatures God had ever made. But he had a bit of a ego problem, as I'm sure you're aware
it is not really that odd assumption. More sharper you are, more likely are aware of your weaknesses and flaws.
@@VindensSaga Not really, I assume it'd be the opposite. The smarter you are the greater capacity you have for doing stupid things. The higher the intelligence the more likely to become arrogant, the more arrogant the less likely of self reflection and less likely to listen to opposite viewpoints.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Some atheist are a living Rick and Morty meme.
That's why I call atheism in the West a religion. They worship false idols.
Some?
@@reality1958 found the Rick and Morty atheist
@@reality1958 logic and evidence, with a side of domestic violence?
@@reality1958 then why aren’t you a Christian?
Had a conversation today.
“There’s no way a man could turn water into wine, walk on water, or be conceived by a virgin.”
“That’s why they’re called miracles, because they’re outside the bounds of everyday experience.”
“Shut up, we’ll agree to disagree.”
Pray for her, if you could.
I highly doubt the actual conversation went like that.
But I think you would agree that miracles are very improbable.
Now what does it say about your belief?
@@gergelymagyarosi9285 it’s paraphrased, but not by much. I combined her statements, and reduced the redundancy of mine, meaning mine was the same to every one of her points.
If something was is miraculous, it can’t be explained other than what it is: a miracle. It defies our natural understanding of the world, meaning our day-to-day experiences and understandings, as well as any scientific definition.
What it says about my belief, it says very little. I’ve got anecdotal experiences, others’ testimonies, and the natural progression of my own logical facilities that led me to the realization that the universe having a creator makes more sense than it not, that the nature of man needs to be reconciled with said creator, and that the accuracy of the Old Testament and New Testament can’t be understated. You can do fantastical things when you’re the creator of the heavens and the earth and the lord of all creation.
Not to mention, I was called a a child and, although I’ve stumbled heavily throughout my life, I’m still called to do the job, the calling, that I wish to do because it’s as natural to me as breathing. God bless.
@@williamwilson1222
I see the main difference here: if something cannot be explained then it is a miracle for some, and just another unknown fact to others. For some "it makes sense to me" is not enough of an explanation.
Can you see why someone, who thinks about miracles like that, find depending on miracles absurd?
more like "if God makes miracles, if he turned water into wine and so on, why doesn't he make miracles today? Do you really believe if you are the only one to survive a plane crash that God saved you while he let everyone else die? While he starves a child every 5 seconds? While there is countless number of people better than you dying every day?"
If God exists, he doesnt care about us so i dont care about him either.
People used to say the same thing about space travel, but here we are.
Even as an atheist, I'm curious how many atheists know that most of the arguments they use have been challenged and debated by philosophers for hundreds of years, and a lot of the more common arguments against religion aren't even widely used by atheistic philosophers.
What do you think about the teleological argument about the existence of God? That we can tell that the universe and all that exists has an intelligent designer because it has intelligent design that cannot be achieved through a coincidence? This is something that the Bible actually says. The first line of scripture, Genesis 1:1, in the original Hebrew text, says that God, carved, **polished** the heavens and the earth, implying that all that is made is too intricate to not be created. This is repeated in Romans, where it is written that God's attributes are clearly seen in all that He has made, so those who refuse to acknowledge the truth of God are without excuse. The idea here is that the God of the Bible must exist, because we live in a reality that only the God of the Bible could create.
_I'm curious how many atheists know that most of the arguments they use have been challenged and debated by philosophers for hundreds of years_
*What* arguments? As an atheist, I don't need an argument. I just ask theists for *one piece of good evidence, specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself,* that their god is real, rather than just imaginary. So far,... nothing. Nothing but vague claims.
Likely, it would take more than _one_ piece of good evidence to get me to believe in a god. I can't tell for sure, of course, because belief isn't a choice. So I can't tell what would actually convince me. But *nothing* is never going to be enough. I'm going to need *something* distinguishable from wishful-thinking before I can believe their claims or even take their claims seriously.
Atheists don't need arguments, theists do. Ideally, theists need good evidence. But as far as I can tell, they have none. They've got arguments, though I've never heard a sound one. Maybe some exist, I don't know. I'm sure I've never heard them all.
PS. When it comes to philosophy, note that philosophers themselves are far more likely to be atheists than people who know little or nothing about philosophy: philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl So their arguments don't seem to work very well at convincing the experts, either.
But again, we atheists don't need an argument to just... not believe someone else's claims. It's the person making the claim who has the burden of proof. If they can't back up their claim, that's all I need to not believe them.
@@NoLongerNeedThis Where did you get this translation from the Hebrew? It seems totally inadequate to me (I will make a more adequate translation after you let me know).
What do you think the author of Genesis meant by Genesis 1:1 and what were the Jewish interpretations of this text? They were quite far from interpreting the teleological argument, just so you know.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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The bible describes a flat earth like a snow globe 🤣Cosmos is eternal, it always existed in some form. Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, No! It was not created by your magical space wizard.
When I got into college to study computers, I learned about scholarly research, how to read, interpret and study academic papers, how to write reviews and resumes. I was an atheist back then.
Actually, learning how to do a proper academic research with a healthy skepticism while seeking to organize the thought into logical structures helped me in my conversion to Christianity in the study of theology.
It was a humbling experience since I was being told that religious people were dumb, that until I read some theologians. Today I see the bible as the revelation of God with an ocean of knowledge and wisdom that even after all these years I didn't even scratched the surface.
Studying the bible requires lots of skills and research in different fields of knowledge, such as Hermeneutics, manuscriptology, theology, philosophy, textual criticism, history, archaeology, literature, language and grammar, exegesis and many more.
It's quite hard, actually.
It's not hard as long as you have the will to study and learn it.
Which theologians or philosophers would you recommend? I'm in need of help with my faith
@@crunchybroll4731 William Lane Craig and John Lennox have really good debates
@Barbara Bond
The Bible has plenty of surface level text, and varying depths.
There is enough, just in plain text, to teach a man how to save himself from eternal damnation, to live a peaceful life, to prosper in work and at home to select good friends, and much more.
If you want to dig, then the text is deeper.
The OP wants to dig all the way down, and so he is looking at cultural aspects of the original texts and other things that require external study amd careful thought.
God doesn't make it hard; He hides a treasure and then gives us the tools necessary to dig it up, if we're interested and like to work.
You also need to learn about astronomy, mythology, ancient civilizations, chemistry, volcanology, etc. otherwise you will be restricted to the literary aspect of the message. May I suggest you some key words and expressions : the Assyrian kings' list, and also Adamu, Nuabu, Ibrium, Issiac, Yakub Har. I Wish you the best
I’m a Christian. I believe that one’s religious belief or lack thereof does not determine intelligence and that there are different types of intelligence that are suited better for different kinds of situations.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 - The amount of reaching you had to do lmao
@@Gamefan86copypasta. Respond or your trolling and your point is invalid
(I’ve seen this before spammed in other videos of this type)
@bastiat4855 The primary reason for life for everyones existence is to know Jesus if we want to get technical. That was why man was created and God still let us exist after the fall.
@bastiat4855 Yes the overarching purpose of every human being existing is to know Jesus. They have an ultimate purpose for life and that is the singular reason. It is why God spared the human race with Noah's ark and never wiped us out. It is why he created humans in the first place. This is an extremely easy concept to grasp with basic reading comprehension when reading the bible. YOU your fundamental purpose for breathing is to know Jesus, everything else is pointless. You exist for this purpose. Humans were created to exist in the presence of God, we were never meant to exist outside of it in the fallen state after original sin, it is like fish out of water. So you cannot pretend you don't know the purpose of life or the purpose of your life. The bible makes it clear, it is to have an relationship with Jesus your God.
So maybe instead they should test IQs then compare like IQs on atheist vs religious to see the ratio of the two. But more than just IQ, we should also compare quality of life, anxiety, depression, etc. to see how they stack up.
I would definitely be interested in seeing the study that showed the rate of mental health problems like depression and anxiety in atheist versus Believers in relation to IQ.
@Kaleigh C I think religous people have better mental health I mean, most psychopathic serial killers are atheists so...
Oddly enough. Out of curiosity I looked for this very information. Atheists tend to have a higher propensity towards depression and suicide.
_we should also compare quality of life, anxiety, depression, etc. to see how they stack up._
Why? I care about the _truth._ Now, I have a very good life, but even if it would make me feel better to think that I'm going to magic Disneyland after I died - and it would _definitely_ make me feel better if I thought my parents, grandparents, and other people I've cared about were laughing it up in magic Disneyland, instead of just... gone - I _still_ want to believe that only if it's true.
If it's not true, I don't want to believe it. I only want to believe it if it _is_ true. I'm not some child who needs to cling to Santa Claus as long as possible. So none of that actually _matters_ to me, if it's not true.
And as far as I can tell, theists don't have _anything_ distinguishable from wishful-thinking backing up the god they were almost always just taught to believe as a child. Disagree? Then how about one - *one* - piece of good evidence, specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Why is *one* too much to ask? But it always is.
It has been widely found that theists are happier and have better mental health than atheists.
Growing up, I always had an interest in both science and faith. When I went off to college, I majored in science education. At first, I was concerned that growing deeper in my knowledge of science (and at a secular university) would challenge my faith in God. In fact, just the opposite happened. As my knowledge of science deepened, so did my faith. It turned out that science strengthened the intellectual/rational underpinnings of my faith. Since then, I have learned more about many of the greatest scientists who ever lived (including modern day scientists) were also devout believers in God.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Have you studied cancer? Did it bring you closer to your loving sky daddy?🤗💕
@@Gamefan86 Speaking of fables...
Christian geology major: heck yeah! I picked science because I want to understand the beautiful world God made better!
@@Gamefan86 A rational mind sees a rational universe requires a rational mind. An irrational mind believes rationally comes from irrationality such as the naturalist/Atheist. Atheists thus don't have a rational mind and are less intelligent. It's as straight forward as that. There is a reason Christianity birthed modern science and uplifted the West which brought humanity into the modern age. Christians are the rational ones. Atheism is a fairytale for those afraid of the light.
This is an excellent video, IP. The conclusions reached have the unusual quality of being both simultaneously surprising and intuitively correct.
In the past I was also tricked by the evil to reject God, thinking that religion and science contradict each other.
But later down the line I came to the conclusion that science is the language of the Universe, but not the explanation for existence, reality and beginning of all things
God bless you, people 💜
@@AndrewStevens-up6pn I also thought that, but God proved me wrong. Just think about it, why dk we exist? How did spacetime continuum begin? Why does anything exist ever? Good luck answering that with science
@@dimasskarabasMatter can’t be created nor destroyed. From this we could assume that matter existed forever. The Big Bang is just how far back we can trace the universe’s age because we can find when all the microwaves were in one spot, and redshifting proves that matter is still moving out farther and farther away from where the singularity was. Matter is eternal, it existed before the Big Bang for a likely infinite amount of time, so God is not needed. Now, how the universe compressed all that matter into one place is a bit less obvious of an answer, but maybe the universe follows some sort of cycle where matter will expand far and wide before eventually coming back together in a certain point, or perhaps the universe just alters matter and its movement in ways we can’t fathom. This doesn’t necessarily imply God, and while we may never know the true workings of the universe, it would certainly be at least a little hasty to imply that *a* god, let alone the Christian God or any god humans have made, *has* to exist.
If anyone thinks that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to know;
1 Corinthians 8:2 NASB2020
This is also what Socrates said
"I know that I know nothing"
@@elias8141 Funny thing is even that could as well be a belief)
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 Good similarities👍
This could be why God created Sun in such a way, even the creation reflects Jesus' salvation of humanity, wow!!!
@Gamefan86 try again. English wasn't around back then. If Jesus is the sun. What is the father?
Having worked in a university setting for over 30 years, the concept of "Bias Blind Spot" is WAY under researched. That's why I view "Ph.D" more as "piled high and deep"
M.S. = more of the same
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 LOL, you funny, please more. I love fantasy tales, and I'm a fan of anime. Thought about writing your own Isekai?
@@Gamefan86 Doesn't the christian god come from the storm god Yahweh.
@@jonatand2045 That's a lie from Alexander Hislop, who was known for these lies about ancient religion and such.
As a man of both reason and faith, I absolutely agree with you on this.
But _everyone_ thinks that they reason correctly. _Everyone_ thinks that they use logic and reason. I've never met a single person who _didn't_ think that, no matter _what_ they believed.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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"reason and faith"😂🤣
@@Gamefan86 mockery is the least intelligent thing you could ever do. I've seen your sun worship thing and it makes no sense. You completely disregard the entire Jewish background before Christianity and the fact that the Jews would never hold onto something like that for a long time.
I've encountered this many times online, especially with critical-thinking. I've visited Reddit and Quora and read comments by Atheists saying that critical-thinking and faith aren't compatible. Basically, religious people can't be critical-thinkers. These comments get to my head and dwindle my faith and spirit life. But deep down, I know intelligence/critical-thinking can be in the minds of people who have faith or believe in the supernatural.
It don't matter what you believe, you can be smart. Atheists and Theists and basically anyone can be smart people. People need to grow up.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 sauce: trust my research bro
A rational mind sees a rational universe requires a rational mind. An irrational mind believes rationally comes from irrationality such as the naturalist/Atheist. Atheists thus don't have a rational mind and are less intelligent. It's as straight forward as that. There is a reason Christianity birthed modern science and uplifted the West which brought humanity into the modern age. Christians are the rational ones.
Personally, I wouldn’t trust the answers that you see on Reddit or Quora. I’ve been there before and some of the ideologies I’ve seen promoted there are completely irrational and terrifying.
It’s awesome that this channel sites sources for all arguments made. Opposite of TikTok
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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The prophet of our religion is so cool that non-believers think he's a metaphor for the sun 😉
(This idea was debunk by IP in a short)
@@Gamefan86 Wrong the 12 Disciples are representative of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Christ claims to be God has divine attributes in all 4 Gospels. If you’re going to post a lazy conspiracy theory, do at least one that Inspiring Philosophy hasn’t debunked.
I've actually noticed even when you give a completely reasonable answer to some aetheists they will tend to either ignore it or just default to the "prove God exists/there is no evidence" at that point is usually when I know the conversation gets no where. Anybody can be intelligent or not by worldly standards. The real question is how wise you are and how willing you are to not let your bias cloud you. Most of the aetheists I've talked to can't seem to shed the bias of gods are imaginary. Which honestly makes it hard to have a productive discussion for many believers. However that doesn't make a believer less wise or less intelligent. If anything that reflects bad on the none believer. I think what really makes us as Christians look bad is how the media likes to portray us. Especially the radically zealous ones who agressively believe. Or you have the ones who use Christianity to further themselves. Plus you have those who never read The Bible outside church then try to debate and the aetheist knows more about The Bible than the Christian. At the end of the day we are all imperfect human beings. We shouldn't be trying to prove who is smarter but we should love each other because Yahweh loves us and wants us to love each other. God bless everyone and peace be with you all.
Yeah, the fundamentalist movement in America really promotes embracing ignorance and denying critical thinking. Many christians barely read the Bible let alone understand the context, and just parrot the scriptures and what their pastors and televangelists say. Conversely many atheists also parrot the same talking points, and don't even attempt to understand the beliefs they are arguing against. And the two groups do not mix. Ignorant christians reinforce the perceived stupidity to atheists with closed minds. And closed minded atheists reinforce the arrogant atheist persona that christians view.
God bless you for this
Ament!
The blind argument issue (ignoring points/evidence) makes a lot more sense when you compare it to arguments on frivolous issues that people have.
Some will swear up and down that Trump is a terrible person who never did anything good ever, despite having been a beloved philanthropist and earning more of the popular vote than Obama from many people who had votes for Obama.
These are simple, irrefutable,evident truths, but some will rather die than admit them.
How much so will they reject God then, given the significance of the Christ in their life if they accept or reject Him?
_I've actually noticed even when you give a completely reasonable answer to some aetheists they will tend to either ignore it or just default to the "prove God exists/there is no evidence"_
OK, let's test that, shall we? I'm an atheist. I don't believe in a god or gods because I know of no good evidence that any god is actually real. And evidence, of course, is how we distinguish reality from delusion and wishful-thinking.
Do _you_ have any good evidence that your god is real? How about *one* example, specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Or *one* piece of good evidence that _any_ of the magical/supernatural stories in the Bible actually happened, if you prefer. Just *one.* Your choice. And I will _give_ you a guy named Jesus who was crucified by the Romans.
So, let's hear your "completely reasonable answer."
I know you've got claims. But _every_ religion makes claims, just because of how easy that is. Heck, even my three-year-old neighbor can make claims. It's not hard. And believers in _every_ religion also feel that their beliefs are true. Unfortunately, feelings are indistinguishable from wishful-thinking.
You can't _all_ be right. (You _can_ all be wrong, though.) How do I decide which, if any, of you are actually right?
That's why I ask for evidence. That's why I ask for just *one* piece of good evidence. Got anything? Does your "completely reasonable answer" include evidence that your beliefs are actually _true?_
I'm curious if your "completely reasonable answer" would sound reasonable to you if it came from some _other_ believer in some _other_ religion. Shall we test this? :)
too true. most internet atheist are only super skeptical. denying any evidence, but when asked to produce some argument or alternative, i usually get nothing.
I would be curious to explore whether the role of university professors who seem to actively pull Christian students away from faith might have an impact on these numbers.
evil professors
_the role of university professors who seem to actively pull Christian students away from faith_
Let me guess. You've never actually been to a university, have you? Or not a secular university, at least? You just got that from Christian movies, didn't you?
_"university professors who seem to actively pull Christian students away from faith"_ - how do they do that? As far as I have seen, university professors just teach the facts about their subject matter to the best of their knowledge. How is that "pulling somebody away from faith"?
@@renedekker9806 I'm glad you haven't run across profs with biases, hobby horses or prejudices that are harmful to the faith of students. Not everyone is so lucky.
@@AndrewBellous
Have you ever _been_ to a secular university? I never had a professor who even _mentioned_ their religious beliefs, although I had some who wore small crosses as jewelry. But it didn't make the slightest difference to me what religion they might have been. Why would it?
If any of my professors _had_ tried to push their religious beliefs on me, it wouldn't have taken. After all, it's not as though I was a child in a religious school, being indoctrinated daily. I was old enough by then to not just believe whatever some adult told me. But it never happened. Not even _once._
I suspect that you've just watched too many Christian movies, where the evil atheist professor is a standard character (a _fictional_ character, of course).
Thanks for this video IP, well researched and great points. Never stop! God bless
I don't think I am smarter than the smartest Atheist or the smartest theist. I just feel privileged to have a relationship with God.
Is this god in the room with you now? 🙄
@@duncanbryson1167 He is omnipresent
The opposite is strange but true. The older we get the more open we get to other ideas. Intelligence is hard to define. Openness is one aspect. Belief and trust is outside our normal reason/logic. Imagination is a big part.
"Sometimes we must leave reason aside, to explore the sense and nonsense." Carl Jung.
_The older we get the more open we get to other ideas._
Evidence? I would need some research on that, because the opposite seems to be true once you get past early adulthood. Not for _everyone,_ probably, but definitely as a general rule.
As we grow up, we start to question what we were taught to believe as a child. And as a teenager or young adult, you're more open to new ideas. Many people reject those new ideas, retreating to the comfort of whatever they were taught to believe as a child, but they do seem to be more open to them.
But after that, I think most people start to harden in their attitudes. They tend to stick with whatever they settled on as a young adult - more or less, at least. But maybe you've got evidence otherwise? I _could_ be wrong. At least, in theory.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Atheists might be more intelligent on average, but Reddit atheists definitely aren’t.
The ratio between the two
Because I don't think the average is there
@@reyis_here945 these atheists display very low levels of EQ. They are unable to express their point of view without getting frothing mad about the topic of religion.
They may have high IQ (although I doubt it), but their levels of EQ are very low indeed.
@@bos567564 yeah it's like I said: autistic people generally don't tend to be religous or believe in God probably because of their "extreme male brain" andall the testosterone in their bodies
@Justin Gary if evolution isn't true though than why did God give men nipples? Their weird and non functioning and I even heard can be destructive to the male body
Something I would like to add is that I remember reading years ago (when looking into this topic) that chinese, who are infamously atheistic, show exactly the results you are talking about. Namely the more intelligent chinese being more likely to find religion and hold onto it.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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I never brag about my IQ, because I realize it is a gift from God. I know I didn't do anything to earn or deserve it. I am a nuclear scientist, a member of Mensa, High IQ Society, and Prometheus Society (99.99th percentile). However, I was a Christian before I was a scientist. I see God in everything I touch. Any "scientist" that truly examines the facts and improbable odds of randomness and doesn't accept God is stupid, regardless of his or her IQ. Often stupidity and high IQ go hand in hand.
There are unintelligent atheists and unintelligent religious people. I find most militant atheists and activists to be largely unintelligent. The same could be said to be true on the religious side. If someone rejects philosophy and history as a means of truth, as many atheist and religious fundamentalists do, I do not think they can considered to be perspicacious or insightful. This is also true of people who have trouble differentiating the literal from the metaphorical, as many atheists and fundamentalists do.
Militant atheism is for angsty adults still stuck in the teenage rebellion phase, much like their creations of SJWs.
Ironically, militant atheists mirror exactly what they so frevently preach againt...religious fundamentalism.
@@reality1958 I primarily had Matt Dillahunty and Dawkins in mind, but much of what I said would apply to them as well. There are numerous examples of them making the most rudimentary of philosophical and theological errors. For example, Hitchens thinking Jesus meant literal violence when he discussed wielding a sword. Their worldviews are permeated with sophistic and two-dimensional thinking.
Agreed
@@batman5224 Don't forget Aaron Ra and TJump. Those two are unfathomably cringe.
Well, I'm the only practicing Christian in my close family. One of my siblings is culturally a Christian, the other a homosexual and my eldest sibling is an atheist. They all probably think I'm an idiot because of the beliefs.
That's quite the roster of siblings!
Aww your religious? That's cute; women generally tend to be more religous than men and studies found that when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religous, not more which could explain why. I know that I personally would definitely choose a religous partner over a secular one even though I myself am not religous (and why should i? I'm sixteen years old and male. I'm not a prepubescebt boy anymore)
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov Aww, you're sixteen? That's cute.
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov You're sixteen. Your argument ends there. You know nothing yet.
@@melissadevries1781 damn you!
Feel like there is also quite a bit of the dunning kruger effect at play, where people who dismiss religion, feel like they are too old and modern to believe "ancient fairy tales"
Definitely.
@thewanderer797 not saying that Religious people don't suffer from this, I probably do so as well 😅, but that was just an observation
@The wanderer i mean, most atheist are have never read anything on classical philosophy or thomism, so "fact base" not really, people are way too intellectually lazy and directed by their passions.
I mean just look at your average voter
@@Remembering1453 I don't know intellectuals like Stephen Hawking gotten things wrong
Funny that you mention "old" 😂 because there was a study done where old men were given t they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why women generally tend to be more religous than men. A similar study showed that when women were given testosterone they became more skeptical than before
The grand irony is most that call themselves Atheists aren't the believe in the most dangerous superstition/religion.....government/the state
Hello fellow ancap?
@@reality1958 Then Atheism is your god, since you seem to "defend" (albeit very poorly, reeking with nothing but arrogance and pride) it very rigorously like a theist would defend their religion. You're fooling nobody.
@@reality1958 do you vote? Do you believe in a thing called the state? If yes then you believe in the religion of statism if no then you are an Anarchist.
@@christianlight8511 howdy
Yep
Good video. Thank you.
I've had this discussion with atheist more than once. Gets old being informed that I'm "an emotional cripple"
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 um, no. I don't have the time, patients, or crayons to explain to you how literally every single thing you said was wrong.
Look, if you want to add glitter to the glue your huffing, that's fine, but don't get your crazy on me
An Atheist is like a fish in a deep wide ocean looking EVERYWHERE for evidence of water..
Fax
@@reality1958 bro
@@reality1958 hey she's a woman, the fact that she is religious is cute. Sure, if this was a guy than that would be pathetic but still. Let her believe what she wants. She at least has more estrogen than you
@@reality1958 whoosh
@@reality1958 You atheist?
I live in the Philippines, a predominantly Catholic/Christian country. Religion is a huge part of our culture and life. Everywhere you go you can meet a very religious doctor, engineer, lawyer, any sort of profession. I only encounter this notion of dumb religious people from the western world, specifically America, when I got on the internet. Its very weird.
Of course, those people are Christian because they were _raised_ Christian. Overwhelmingly, they were indoctrinated with their particular religion as young children. And there's a strong emotional attachment to whatever you were taught to believe as a child (not to mention extraordinary magical promises of "eternal life" and extraordinarily harsh threats of what will happen to you if you _don't_ believe).
And if everyone around you _also_ believes it - or isn't open about _not_ believing it, at least - then it's easy to go along with the crown, too. If you were the only one believing something like that, you might question it more often.
But yeah, I don't agree that atheists are necessarily smarter than other people, and I never hear that from other atheists, either. I mean, not _seriously._ But as memes, sure. In casual conversation, people can say almost anything.
The west unfortunately worships knowledge (especially the atheists), so it is only natural they would accuse their rivals of ignorance.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 Jesus Christ lived as a human being. Jesus is not a symbolic figure, Roman records even say that he was going around and preaching at the time the bible says he was. Regardless of if you believe him to be the son of God, Jesus Christ was a living human being.
@@Gamefan86 lmao no the earliest accounts of Christianity completely contradict your made up narrative.
This is a very cool video, IP. Well done.
I'm someone who got official IQ testing done when I got into a really good therapist office for some issues I was having. It was part of a 4 hour series of tests for various things (including autism), in the end they ruled that I am not autisric but I am on the fairly significantly high IQ side for a female and that I heavily favor fluid intelligence (which was no surprise to me because my memory recall is so consistently bad it's a joke between me and my husband). So these kind of atheist memes and slogans that denigrate the intelligence of religious folks, and Christians especially, always irked me especially hard because I know for a fact how blatantly untrue it is.
Autism is the extreme male brain and is caused by prenatal testosterone (its the reason why many autistic women and girls, and exclusively the females on the spectrum, come out as lesbian or trans: it's because they have male brainsand desires) and recent research shows that autistic people generally aren't religous or believe in God. Women generally tend to be more religious than men and when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why
why do you say "high IQ for a female?" Is there really that much of a difference between IQs of males and those of females?
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 Wow, do you need a chiropractor? You have to be sore after all of that streching you just did.
No.
There, saved you 12 minutes.
I‘ve gone from agnostic to atheist to believer, have I become dumber? 🤔
According to internet Atheists, yes.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
..
Nah, you were obviously dumb all the time.
As scientific intelligentic euphoric and 250 IQ tested yes you have
@@Gamefan86 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a load of bollocks.
Thank you for this video, gentle and thorough. You are the kind of christian i would hope i would be in another life if i wasn’t an atheist. Deep respect.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86Bro someone get this man an Olympic medal because he just jumped to the furthest conclusion I have ever seen in my life 😂😂😂
Could you make a video on prayer? I feel that it is an important part of the philosophy of Christianity, and I was surprised to realize that you dont have a specific video on it.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Not sure how assuming intelligence created itself makes you smarter 🤷♂️
No one claimed that bud. Saying these religions are false doesn't imply that we came from nothing. We simply don't know.
The claim is nonsensical from the start as there is no proper definition of what "religion" or "not religion" is supposed to mean.
Not religious is someone who doesn't believe in a religion. Religious is someone who does. Religion is a system of beliefs and values that make up a world view surrounding mainly God or gods.
@@MrFossil367ab45gfythThe first part of your definition was a tautology. The second part is questionable, as there are religions without gods and also ideologies that on many ways work like religions and sometimes even have godlike figures. There are also religions that shun the term.
Time after time, survey after survey shows that when people convert away from religion; they say it’s because they never had their questions answered. Poor catecheses drove many away. Intelligence by itself isn’t the differentiator, we need better communication and us Christians need to be able to explain our faith well.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86what are you smoking???
The more I learn the more religious I get, Simply put the more I learn the more I question how a complex and ordered world can be all by chance.
chance?
@@francoisbroukx1244 Yes if a ball of nothing exploded and magically and randomly created a universe all by its self that would be a astronomically low chance of happening, assuming some sort of multiverse theory that is also un scientific. (Basically fine tuning theory but in a broader sense)
@@cchhiicckkeennss
As far as I can tell no one - *no one* - thinks that "a ball of nothing exploded and magically and randomly created a universe." If _that's_ your degree of knowledge about cosmology, you need to go back to school. Or at least do a bit of googling.
And if you can demonstrate how you calculated that "astronomically low chance of happening," I'd be very impressed (and surprised, of course). I suspect that you just pulled that out of your butt, didn't you?
@@cchhiicckkeennss what I mean is, if you play heads or tails, what is the chance the piece falls on the slice? and now you do that for a billion years. That is not chance, that is called probability.
@@francoisbroukx1244 Im talking about things like the gravity field landing on a tiny % chance or the universe would blow up instantly meaning 0 billions of years, 1 chance and it failed. If you want to try to say things like multi verse theroy or whatever you would still need to explain how the universe generator got fine tuned, you can't have a creation without a creator
Texas was the highest Academically rated state in the US from the late 1960's to the early 1980's, and my School District (Sheldon/CE King High) was the 4th highest rated school system in Texas, at the time. My oldest sister and I, were 2 of the 3 highest IQ's EVER recorded in our District until, at least, 1989. Both of us have an unshakable belief in God, and I tell people that, "I don't believe that God exists, I KNOW He does!"
So there's that...
Carl Jung is that you?!?
I was atheist, but i found the truth. Amen❤
No and I can say that as a former atheist with an IQ in the top .9th percentile on the WAIS-III. Technically I'm on the cusp of being a genius. I'm right on the line between "Nobel Laureate professor" and "genius" at 149. Somehow, I dont have super powers and am not a success at everything I do, what most people seem to think high IQ does for people. It mostly alienates you really as it's hard to relate.
It can get annoying already knowing what ppl will say, or people saying "did you know?" and having to lie just to be polite to hold a conversation.
It makes for boring interactions with people.
Id definitely say for me my intelligence is what allowed me to perceive god in the noise in a way that is unshakeable now. I certainly didn't expect that as an atheist.
are you a Christian?
In my anecdotal experiences religiosity tends to be like that one internet meme where the low IQ guy and high IQ guy agree but then the average IQ person is the one in denial.
Hm? I'm not sure which meme you're referring to.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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atheist: "research says atheists are smarter"
regular person: "Hello, smart person. Can you tell us what a woman is?"
atheist: "uh..."
Atheist are intelligent whether accept it or not .
Yes but you just can't say atheist are smarter there definitely intelligent religion people and non-religious people
@@Wildxgiyu Majority of atheists are rationalists meaning they believe in reason And evidence unlike religious PEople who believe in fate .
I Dont meant to say atheists are way smarter but I meant that most of the atheist are smarter Than religious PEople but THERE are some religious PEople that are really Smart and intelligent which I cannot deny .
@@SecularShadow yeah I agree
@@SecularShadowPE?
Atheism's rise in popularity was due to a decrease in religious literacy, not an increase
And probably testosterone too when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more. Look it up, it's true. That's why I find it sad when women abandon their faith: their basically abandoning their feminity (which is probably the point but still)
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov It's important to remember, when studies are conducted, what are they measuring exactly? What does the study mean by "religious"?
Testosterone generally just intensifies what you already are predisposed to be. So if you're predisposed to be promiscuous for example, it's going to intensify that vice.
@drooskie well women generally tend to be more religous than men look it up I mean, I'm sure you would notice it too in just your own daily life as well like I did...
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov
Today in the West, Testosterone is decreasing with Religion.. Atheism & Degeneration is increasing. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
No, it was due to 9/11.
IP, please debate Gnostic Informant, he promotes ancient pagan/gnostic anti-Christian myths to quite an audience and needs to be refuted.
Ce faci frate Dumnezeu sa îți dea sănătate ✝️☦️
It’s more likely a pride issue associated with high I.Q.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Another missing factor is you can only test people self-identifying as atheists. Many more exist but may not espouse the position out of ignorance of an identified worldview. Intelligence could only identify knowledge. Not how judgment is exercised when that knowledge has been considered.
That’s a very good point. Most agnostics are, for all practical purposes, atheists. People who are undecided on whether or not God exists would probably be less intelligent on average because the majority of them did not use reasoning to support their worldview on this complex topic or even choose to avoid it entirely.
That might depend on how you define atheism. Traditionally in philosophic academia "atheism" is defined as 'the belief that God does not exist' rather than merely 'the lack of belief in any god'. I would imagine that the more likely someone is to self-identify with the term "atheism" the more likely they are to actively believe that God doesn't exist.
@@LawlessNateThe lack of belief arguments is ether an agnostic or an atheist that is trying to game the system in their favor. IMO.
@@LawlessNate true but they also like concepts of morality and see them only has perceptions
These studies also completely ignore the fact that agnostics exist as well.
Video idea: When do you think Final Judgement will happen? Examine evidence from Bible and stuff around current times and make a estimate? Just an idea! God bless ❤
Well, I don’t think the study you referred to was intended to suggest that religion made you less intelligent. I do agree the advice at the end of the video, to properly understand why one believes what one believes, is very good advice. On the cognitive bias issue. Everyone has them, the trick is to be aware of them and to learn how to avoid making thinking errors because of them.
_Distribution of Nobel Prizes by religion between 1901-2000, the data tooks from Baruch A. Shalev, 100 Years of Nobel Prizes (2003), Atlantic Publishers & Distributors, p.59 and p.57: between 1901 and 2000 reveals that 654 Laureates belong to 28 different religion. Most 65.4% have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference. Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards._
_While separating Roman Catholic from Protestants among Christians proved difficult in some cases, available information suggests that more Protestants were involved in the scientific categories and more Catholics were involved in the Literature and Peace categories._
_Atheists, agnostics, and freethinkers comprise 10.5% of total Nobel Prize winners; but in the category of Literature, these preferences rise sharply to about 35%. A striking fact involving religion is the high number of Laureates of the Jewish faith - over 20% of total Nobel Prizes (138); including: 17% in Chemistry, 26% in Medicine and Physics, 40% in Economics and 11% in Peace and Literature each. The numbers are especially startling in light of the fact that only some 14 million people (0.2% of the world's population) are Jewish. By contrast, only 5 Nobel Laureates have been of the Muslim faith-0.8% of total number of Nobel prizes awarded - from a population base of about 1.2 billion (20% of the world‘s population)._
so to say that atheism is scientific and religion not (btw: atheism is a religion too) is factchecked: FALSE
when you examen this data where atheists are put together with agnostics and freethinkers that are rejected by atheists, then atheism has FAR less then 5% of nobel prizes. also that from that
I find it annoying when Atheists include anyone into atheism for the purpose of not having to defend their own view and for the purpose of appearing like a large group. But when they make statements it is always that narrow and very shallow new atheism which is nothing more than a Dillahunty dodge most of the time.
They don't use the category of Atheism as a label to make things more clear. They use it as a shield to confuse the conversation partner.
@@reality1958 science already has proven god of the bible ;-)
are you familar in science? then i show you.
@@reality1958 That's because science isn't about God, it's about creation.
What's funny is that when Christians founded modern science, that's exactly what they made as a point.
namely:
[1] That the universe was *created* by God;
[2] That because human beings are created in God´s image, we can understand the universe;
[3] That learning about the *creation* tells us something about the creator; and
[4] that understanding the universe is a form of worship
so... btw: in the 90´s when the dead-sea-scrolls was found there was an scientific articel saying that the foundings of that scrolls confirm the christian faith.
why? because the timeparadox in the bible was confirmed. because in the old testament (that was written over a period of 1400years) is a red thread about the king messaih and what he will do. also what we will do to him (nail him). and how this will change everything.
so precise, that it tells over time the whole gosple of Christ that took place later. coverd in the scrpiture.
but because we had no older copy then the actual event (~30aD), we couldnt confirm that timeparadox until we found the dead-sea-scroll (old testament carbondated 300BC).
so that beeing *"I AM"* from the old testament (who said he will become flesh and the savior of the world) knew the future without fail in every detail.
and science make it very clear, that by the laws of nature (math/physics/spacetime) every creature is bound, *timetravel* back in time is absolut IMPOSSIBLE for every creature in the universe.
and that is the paradox, because the bible tould the story so presice, that it is impossible by math via chance. absoulut impossible.
and that confirm, that this beeing *"I AM"* from the bible not only knows the future, but also have to stand OUTSIDE/above the universe and it´s laws every creature is bound in.
but there are also more scientific evidence for a supreme beeing (God). but they are not specific evidence for God of the bible but in gerneral. for example the finetuning of our universe and the fact, that the natural constants dont change but should and nobody know why.
that is why atheists came up with "mulitverses" that dosnt disproof God at all but is the ONLY chance left for atheism to be not False.
and that is a fairytale because it can never be proven right or wrong and mostly based on logicfailures.
I think there could be another influence on intelligence: Urbanization. Intelligent people tend to go to more urban environments due to education and higher paying jobs. But urban environments are highly abstract environments where humans can control to a large degree what the environment should look like. I don't mean the individual humans. I mean humans as a group. We are isolated from nature when we live in a city. Because of that urban people are less likely to be in contact with the book of nature, which proclaims Gods glory. So we can more easily believe what we want to be true instead of what nature tells us to be true.
It is just a speculation on my part though so take it with a grain of salt.
I think you're really onto something here
@@topologyrob I think Hugh Ross uses a similar argument. Perhaps I used him as an inspiration when I came to that idea.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Cancer, deadly viruses, and sick and dying children = God's glory and love🤗💕
@@Gamefan86 Straw manning and talking about completely unrelated topics = the rationality of the humanist enlightenment🤗💕
Science is to the atheist what the Emperor was to the Japanese Empire during WWII.
Yes, to militant atheists that is to say.
What I’m saying is that it’s a figurehead for the Thunderfoot/AronRa crowd. They talk a big game about logic and stuff, but are as asinine as any theist.
They think reason is something you write on the wall: you don’t actually practice it.
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Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Mike, I enjoyed you tearing Islam a new one but I'm even gladder to see you back to your usual work.
Frankly the more I’ve learned the more I realize I know so little.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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The answer to the question is no. You know why, because atheism is body, but not mind and spirit. It removes accountability and conscience. It removes the power of faith. Which is expressed in connection to God. Without feeling the need to please God and follow supernatural laws you will have a big problem living life and overcoming obstacles and getting productive support.
Atheist are intelligent because they belive in proof . Atheists Dont blindly follow anyone .
@@SecularShadowIronic from you.
THANK YOU for bringing up the intelligence argument. It's so pretentious and nonsensical, they sound like old 19th century anthropologists talking about how much more awesome their group of people are biologically than others.
I also love to use that analytical side of my brain to reinforce my religiosity, specifically I've been learning a lot more about developing practices of Abrahamic Mysticism through the Millennia. I'm trying to find more English resources on Ibn Arabi and extra Sufi resources on Wahdat al wajud, or the Unity of Being, and how it overlaps with the Practice of Sama (Sufi music, it means to listen, cognates with Shma In the Shma Israel fun fact.)
My only response to these Atheists is to simply ask their IQ score, which will almost always be lower than mine, before I state my own (131) and tell them why the IQ test is only a measurement of certain modes of thought and analysis, instead of a comprehensive score intellectual potential. So it shouldn't matter.
Funny story though, once I did this, turns out his was 133, so, it doesn't ALWAYS work, but in those situations, I found out it's best to say you'll tell them why it doesn't matter before you ask, just in case that happens. You don't wanna accidentally make a fool of yourself like I did, just show in those cases that you're simply no less intelligent on a religious basis. 😅
How did you find out your IQ?
I did the online Mensa test twice (a year apart) and I got 125 and 135 when doing it. It wasn't the actual mensa exam. It was just the online version which you can do for fun. At least it is from the actual organization and it is calibrated around the 130 level.
Also the military recruitment had an IQ test where I got full marks. Although that one didn't come with an IQ number. At least they didn't show it to me.
I do think if you don't do an IQ examination professionally then the possible range is quite large. Especially if it is just some random online exam. So if I have to say mine I will go with 125 as it roughly fits with my experience.
Anyways, an IQ of 130 means one out of 50 people have the same IQ or a higher one. So I don't think that would count as particularly smart. It's decent, but nothing to be proud of.
But the entire argument is a stupid one. Let's assume IQ is all that matters. If that was the case then we would have to take the smartest person who exists and ask him what his opinion is. Anyone disagreeing with him is wrong because they disagree with the smartest man. There is only one small problem. High IQ correlates with psychological problems, it doesn't prevent bias and if you are convinced of something then you are way more likely to find some random pattern to rationalize your ideas.
I like being smart and it is pretty useful in certain situations. But it's about as important as being tall or being attractive. Useful in some aspects of life but it neither makes you more virtuous nor more valuable.
@@philippbrogli779 - So, I grew up, I was among those with special needs. When I was in eighth grade, I was made to take a proper IQ test so they could find out what to expect for my IEP, which is like a personal plan a special needs student has with a counselor to work on their goals.
I couldn't tell you which exact IQ test I took at that time, because I didn't know there were different IQ tests at that time. But for reference, I'm class of 2021, so the summer after my 8th grade would have been 5 years ago, just under 6. So I'm way past due for a new test, but I've never actually gotten around to take an actual proper IQ test since then, only online approximates.
@@wes4736 I would say the one from eight grade was a proper one. But during brain development the IQ changes to some degree.
Online IQ tests should not be taken at face value. After all their goal is traffic, not accuracy. And people getting high IQ scores gives more traffic than the accurate ones. Also IQ tests are always calibrated for a specific range. So if you do an IQ test which is targeted at an IQ of 100, then you will be in an area where the IQ is not as accurate anymore, even in a proper test. That's why I have some level of confidence in the online mensa one. For one it is by a proper organization and their entry requirement is 130. So it is most likely calibrated to that range. I took the Mensa Norway one. But even there I got a difference of 10 IQ points. To be fair, on my first try I just went through it without looking at the questions a second time, even though I would have had the time to do so. So the actual range is probably closer together and closer to 135.
@@philippbrogli779 - Dam, you're one sharp cookie.
@@wes4736 I have to let loose my inner gamma every once in a while.
IP, you’ve showed interest in appearing on popular podcasts before and tim pool seemed interested when a super chat mentioned you. I know I for one would love to watch you as a guest.
The most intelligent race of all, Ashkenazi Jews, happened to also be about the most religious aswell. The most intelligent race of all is the founding ethnic group that gave the world the abrahamic religions. Funny how that worked 😊
I've never met an atheist I admired or wanted to be like.
I've met Atheists I respect. But in none of those cases was that respect founded on their atheism. It was generally either because atheism was completely irrelevant in that aspect or despite their atheism.
I like apostate prophet.
@@fancy3774 Do you like him or do you admire him?
I admire certain qualities about atheists, but not the person as a whole. I suppose the same can be said about all people though, Christian or not.
@@fancy3774 Yeah, apostate prophet is chill.
The average reddit atheist thinks so.
Even though they can't figure out how to shave, take a shower, run on a treadmill, or fill out a job application.
@justingary5322 you’re a proven liar and hypocrite
I am atheist and I don’t think I’m smarter than everyone even my Friends can back me up that I’m pretty dumb 😅
Brother! Very good video, thanks for making them!
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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I have personally experienced your take on a related note. In my nation, the culture there is leaning further and further left. I acknowledge that Christianity has demonstrable historicity so the comparison isn't exactly apples to apples. However, the similarity is that the mindset/philosophy is also dominant and therefore, the followers of the ideological "woke" crowd are constantly having their beliefs reinforced without challenge. Conversely, those of those who do not subscribe to their way of thinking are constantly challenged and therefore, our arguments will be far more refined and prepared during a debate.
It is quite the turn of events when one group once thought to be the intellectuals and the other thought to be simpletons turn out to both actually be the opposite.
Great video as always!
_our arguments will be far more refined and prepared during a debate._
Heh, heh. Right. Arguments like "Woke! Woke! Woke! Woke!," huh?
Sorry, but you ruined your own argument with that silly "woke" nonsense.
Billy...not sure who fed that belief to you but....using a word you don't like doesn't ruin an argument. There are a multitude of things you should be sorry for; your inability to realize using terminology you don't like is undoubtedly the least of them. Again, the "woke" audience that typically uses emotional and cannot substantiate their worldviews when challenged simply lash out as a response. So..thank you for proving my point. (wink).
@@whatareyoulookingat908
_not sure who fed that belief to you_
Huh? *What* belief? What are you _talking_ about? "LOL" means "laughing out loud." I wasn't arguing with you, because you weren't really making an argument. I was just laughing at you.
Now, I wasn't so much laughing at _you,_ since I don't know you, as I was laughing at the right-wing idiots who just use "woke" as a buzzword for anything they don't like. After all, even _they_ don't know what they mean by it. That's because it's just a slur. It's just tribal, a way to distinguish "us" from "them." It doesn't actually _mean_ anything.
Now, admittedly, that makes it better than most of the other slurs which "political correctness" made it difficult for them to say out loud without risking criticism. Remember that? Remember how terrible it was to be "politically correct"? Heh, heh. Remember how furious right-wingers were that they couldn't even call someone a... well, an ethnic slur without getting criticized?
But now it's "woke." What does it _mean?_ Nothing. I mean, sure, if you're a decent human being, you're "woke," I suppose. If you don't think your neighbor's private life is any of _your_ business, you're "woke"? If you don't want government bureaucrats patrolling private bedrooms or between a person and their doctor, you're "woke"?
But it doesn't actually _mean_ anything. It's just a way to be tribal. It's just a way to distinguish "us" from "them." And you *HATE* "them," because they're not part of your tribe. (Again, I'm not talking about "you" personally, since I don't know you.)
That's why I laugh at you. "Woke" is just a nonsense word you can use in any situation to distinguish _your_ tribe from other people. _Your_ tribe isn't "woke." You don't really _care_ what that means, because what it really means is "other."
But hey, this video is about atheism. That's the only reason why I saw it. They _invited_ atheists, and I'm an atheist. I don't know why _you're_ here, but I enjoy talking to people who disagree with me about religion. So, if you're a theist, let's talk about religion.
You say, "the followers of the ideological "woke" crowd are constantly having their beliefs reinforced without challenge." Obviously, that doesn't apply to _me_ or I wouldn't even be here.
Maybe _you_ go to atheist sites in order to have your beliefs challenged, I don't know. (I suspect not, since most theists seem absolutely terrified of actually talking to an atheist, but again, I don't know you.) But I _do_ go to religious sites - Christian and Muslim alike - for that reason.
So, are you a theist? Do you believe in a god? If so, which god or gods? And do you have one piece of good evidence that any god is real, rather than merely imaginary? Just *one,* specific enough and in enough detail that I can judge it for myself? Let's talk.
I’m smarter than a lot of my class and I’m in the gifted and talented, yet I’m still Christian, and some things “smart” atheists say are things that I can debunk!
@@Theo_Skeptomai stuff like “there’s no proof of anything mentioned in the Bible”
@@Theo_Skeptomai yes
@@Theo_Skeptomai The proposition "Jesus of Nazareth died by crucifixion" is supported by multiple 1st and 2nd century historians.
@@Theo_Skeptomai stuff like “there is no god, god didn’t create the world”
@@Theo_Skeptomai yes, the world had to have been created on purpose, the chances of it being created coincidentally are so low, there are so many intricate systems that would destroy earth if you just slightly moved them
I was watching a live of an Italian guy arguing that the Old Testament is mythology and that everyone who believes in the Exodus should go to a psychiatric clinic. In my mind I was wondering: "Are you saying that Kenneth Kitchen doesnt know his stuff???". By the way this video is an antidote as always. Thank you IP for your ministry
That's weird psychopaths are usually male but women are generally more religious and believe in this stuff. In fact there was a study where researchers gave old men testosterone and they became LESS religious, not more, which may explain why
Let me guess, it was that dumbass of Osa Sapere. Or maybe Padre Kayn?
@@reality1958 well the morality of the OT is not the point of my comment. Neverthless, there are several books and scholars that already analyzed it and gave it an answer. Just watch the last video of “What your pastor didn’t tell you” for example
@@reality1958 well that's your point of view
@@reality1958 Taking it literally seems to be a modern American thing
**ATHEIST IRONY** - I'm often amazed/perplexed at how many atheists feel the need to humiliate their religious conversational partners rather than simply point out purported logical/reasoning errors. Personally humiliating someone is illogical, vindictive and strictly an emotional driver. It serves zero logical purpose in an actual conversation where 'mutual respect' grounds the integrity of the debated subject. To be wholly frank I'm often amazed at the unrestrained arrogance and bravado whom a good many atheists I personally know actually embody. AAA (i.e., actualized atheist arrogance) does more to turn reasonable people off from debating atheists than perhaps any other single conversational quality.
People who have convinced themselves that they are always the 'smartest people' in the room/chat/Zoom call consistently feel no need or urgency to actually critically listen to what their conversational partner is saying/connoting. Thankfully 'hardcore' atheists often let you know extremely quickly if they view you as being nothing more than a simpleton religious moron. Attempting to have an engaged and rigorous conversation/debate with such a person is almost always counter productive in the end. I'm willing to debate and listen to anyone... except someone who unrelentingly insists on mocking/insulting/shaming/belittling me from the get-go. This obviously does not describe all atheist encounters or atheist debates! :)
Great information. Will refer back to this for reference. Thank you!
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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No. Its worse still: Usually (99% of the time) they can't even articulate the other sides argument correctly. Often they cannot even describe the religion properly.
Could say the same the other way.
@The Rick nope. You've just illustrated my point.. because the reverse cannot happen. It's a technical reason why - the issues revolve about there being no "arguments for atheism," so as there aren't any positive/deductive arguments FOR athiesm, how can a theist be accused of not knowing their substance in a refutation? When they make no actual claims. Just rebut others claims.
Whereas good conversations like "is athiesm a religion?" are clawed at. Despite it having It's apostates punished, having a creation myth, an end of the world doomsday belief system, refusing to share ground with other religions, recuits law to attack other religions (blasphemy laws), it prosletyses and financially rewards those who do and it has high priests who ensure conformity
@@con_boy sigh. I didn’t make your point but you did help demonstrate how it can be turned around. And obviously there’s some differences. Atheism is just a position. Someone can make an argument for why they hold that position. Because if no one can make an argument for atheism then no one can make one for theism.
Atheism isn’t a religion. That’s not a good conversation.
Atheism has a creation myth? What is it?
It has an end of the world doomsday belief system? What is it?
Do share how atheism is a religion and all those things you listed.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@Gamefan86 that is all 70s rubbish. No one believes any of that. Looks like you're a long way from educated. Look up Gary Habermas and his work on "minimal facts argument" - basically we have the first sermon ever preached and it was 17 years after the cross, in Corinth and it had DEATH DEITY RESURRECTION in it. When Christians were about 1,200 in number in Jerusalem
I have a feeling Atheologica’s not gonna be too happy about this.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Atheist here.
I don't think theists are less intelligent as such. But over the years of debating with theists, I see some consistent patterns:
1) A whole lot depends upon your upbringing. The best religion is the one that I grew up in. The "I was an atheist...' stories you often see in RUclips is really not 'atheist to X religion' conversion, it is actually 'I was an irrereligious drunk who never cared for religion'' kinda story.
2) Religious people often can't escape their confirmation bias and are trapped in their own eco chambers. This is specially true for Muslims, rather than Christians. No amount of convincing would convince them. If only I could get one dollar every time someone deleted their comment secretly and pretend that nothing has happened when their forced to confront their one logic!
3) Related to the second point: is the narrow focus of their understanding of the world. As a former evangelical, many of Christians friends have never talked to a real atheist. Or even read books on evolution. But they would surely have read all books by Lee Strobel.
4) Finally, I have seen that atheists generally give importance to ideas, while theists prioritise people. For a theist "Who said that" is more important than "What he said". The sheer number of times I have seen quotes being used as arguments is astonishing.
If you don't accurately and most importantly *consistently* evaluate peoples' testimony then you as an atheist are free to move the goalpost for evidence litterally however you want. This is why giving the appropriate importance and weight to the source of a claim is probably brought up to you, it's because we see most atheists applying inconsistent standards on that front.
But if you are more interested in ideas then claims, then how about this:
1-moral facts exist
2-contingent things exist
3-any model that explains both those brute facts is more valuable than any combination of models that explain them individually
4-no atheist model explains both 1 and 2
5-IF there is a theistic model that explains both 1 and 2, then it is superior to any atheist model.
Every single one of your points you brought up was anecdotal, but I guess you fooled everyone
@@SauerkrautX I didn't know that RUclips comments sections is where we publish research summaries and their analysis.
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I don't see those one-sided patterns. I've talked to lots of people, atheists, agnostics, religious people of many kinds.
Point 1 - may be true in many cases. But I'm not in the religion I grew up in - I had a lot of opposition when I switched. I know of loads of people who've switched from christianity to islam, and vice versa, full on atheists to christianity or islam, and vice versa - - -
Point 2 - also is true in many cases, but I see plenty of confirmation bias in atheists too. I had a long discussion with an atheist colleague about a point he misunderstood and misrepresented, explained it thoroughly to him, after which he just repeated his original statement. But I see plenty of openness from both sides too !
Point 3 - Yes, I've talked to several real atheists. Watched lots of atheists' videos, and been impressed by the more balanced, less biased ones. And I've read lots about evolution, which I don't have a problem with btw. And I've read Dawkins' "The God Delusion" - read it twice actually, thought I must've missed something - Never even heard of Lee Strobel.
Point 4 - ok, people like to quote people they admire. The people I know, however, use quotes because they put the idea they want to express across more eloquently than they could themselves. And yes, I wish they would use their own words and tell their own stories, but we're not all good speakers, and that doesn't mean we don't have good ideas. The thing that impressed me most about the belief I chose was the concepts, not the people by any means.
Sure, there are smart atheists. There's also a lot of smart religious people. And there's religious people who are following the tribe - and atheists doing the same.
Noticing your name, I hope you take this in the spirit it's given =o)
With increased knowledge comes increased sorrow
True though,I sometimes feel like knowing things can be a curse and a blessing too.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86 it's a verse in Proverbs
Plus, you can go by the fact that many people say they are a Christian but really aren't.
Only kids/teens are really like that though. If I wasn't Christian I wouldn't say I was, and I don't see why anyone else would either
@AnakinSkywalkerYT giving the right circumstances you just might. Almost like a social thing.
@@AnakinSkywalkerYT
I’m a teen and not lukewarm 😭😭😭
@@GoToLiturgy not all kids, but many are very conflicted. Most teens struggle with hormones, lust, embarrassment, and peer pressure, making following the law very hard
Believing in God does not require rocket science, just plain old common sense is enough.
Being smart doesn’t mean not being wrong. Likewise being stupid doesn’t prevent someone from being right.
If a man says the earth was created before the sun but has a high IQ it doesn’t make him right. He’s a smart wrong man
The sun being created before the earth is compeltley factual though. You cannot simply dismiss things in the Bible because of how absurd they sound to secualr standards. The first line in all of scripture reads, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." If you believe in that first like, you would have zero issue believing the rest of the Bible. A God powerful enough to create all that exists is powerful enough to bring to reality all the other things the described in the Bible. Many atheists point to lines of the Bible that they say are ridiculous and could never happen, like ones of donkeys talking and staves turning into snakes, but the idea of a God capable of creating the universe, yet NOT being able to do any of these things makes no sense. It's not all of these things in the Bible they just can't believe. It's really just that first one that fuels their disbelief in the rest.
@@NoLongerNeedThis the Bible says the Sun and stars were created on the 4th day, after the Heavens and the EARTH.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
The personification of Wisdom as a wealthy, generous, benevolent woman (Proverbs 9:1-5) calls those who are simple and lacking good judgment to leave ignorance behind. Instead, they can take what she offers, resulting in life. Scripture makes it clear that true wisdom does not begin with intelligence or education; it starts with respect for God (Proverbs 1:7; 9:10). Those who seek God's truth can grow in godly wisdom, even if they were lacking sense beforehand (Proverbs 8:5). In a very similar way, basic spiritual insight requires a proper relationship with God (1 Corinthians 2:14).
Very good video. Would love to see a video on philosophy and atheism
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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@@Gamefan86Correlation is not causation.
Intelligence has nothing to do with belief in atheism or theism. Intelligence is largely genetic with some environmental factors playing in
I would say education plays also a role in that. And my main argument for that is the Flynn effect. But we peaked when it comes to that one and we are on the decline again.
Reddit users, instead of using the downfall of Reddit to actually go outside, instead decide to come to Christian youtube channels to have their arguments.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Even hotter take: logic-based reasoning isn't the only good/useful form of intelligence. If you've cut yourself off from intuition, this may be hard to relate to. Intuition is extremely under-appreciated in general.
I agree. Wishful-thinking is _great!_ Well, assuming that you don't give a crap about the _truth_ of your beliefs, at least. :)
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun throug the heavens.
Christianity is ancient astrology, it's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info.
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Our current political climate and with its many outlandish views, confirmation bias, and absolute aversion and disdain for objective reasoning from "Intellectuals" today is very ironic and proves your point perfectly.
Short answer: No
Long answer: My idea on this can be argued for but I currently have no evidence for it. Atheism gained a rise in popularity for several reasons, however we do find that poorer and less developed countries are more religious because its a good supportive system, however countries that are less developed generally have lower iQ. So in this case, the iQ of a person in a well developed country holds none to very little influence on their religious beliefs. I am myself an agnostic, but I would not say that I am so because I am more or less intelligent than other people, simply that I am for one or more reasons not convinced by a particular faith and that my reasoning lead me to this view.
Poor and underdeveloped country = more likely to be religious
Poor and underdeveloped country = a tendency for low iQ due to poor education.
Rich and developed country = Not as likely to be religious, but its not due to iQ
Rich and developed country = A tendency for higher iQ but not (or limited) relation to religion.
I could be wrong, but I don't believe the data shows that education has much of an impact on IQ. Other than that, I agree with your hypothesis.
@@Dee-nonamnamrson8718 There are studies that show education does go hand in hand with the development of iQ. A person still has a floor and roof of their potential iQ, I could never reach someone like Stephen Hawking, but without my education my iQ would be untapped potential.
I think education has a lot to do with their beliefs. Not because education = irreligiousness, but rather than what's being taught causes them to not believe in a God. Atheism is definitely taught in modern schools, and certainly has an impact on faith and outlook on life. For even the Bible acknowledges this in Proverbs 22:6, though I guess it also applies to the wrong things too.
I think Atheism has something to do with urbanism. People who live on the countryside think there are power higher than them and people who live in an urban environment have abstracted their life to the degree that they can believe anything they want. And it is a pretty appealing believe that there is nothing higher than us in the universe and given enough time we can explain anything and build a tool for everything.
Or in other words _"That is an idea so stupid, only an academic could have thought of it."_ (I forgot who that quote is from)
I don't mean to call atheism stupid. I think Atheism is pretty counterintuitive though. After all it makes quite a few claims which goes against what most of humans belief, if they observe the nature with whatever means they have.
With the claim I just did I don't want to say Atheism is wrong or religiosity is correct. My argument just now is not capable of finding out the truth of reality. It is just a hypothesis for why more city dwellers are atheists than rural people. And if that is a true claim then it is pretty obvious why the average intelligence of Atheist is higher. Intelligent people go to cities due to better work and education. And people tend to belief what the people surrounding them belief. So if cities have a higher probability of making people atheists, then intelligent people are more likely atheist.
@@fatstrategist My school did not teach atheism, and I doubt schools do. They may teach a multitude of religions to give a broader view but they don't condone atheism.
I was heavily involved in the atheist community for years, right up until I went to the Reason Rally in 2012. A lot happened there, but suffice to say meeting some of the atheists and talking to them face to face made me take a deep look at myself.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Knowledge [throne] extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Quran 2. 255 please study Islam .
@@littlefab5389muslims vs the media that portrays them as being incredibly violent.... This war continues....
I was an atheist a few years ago, but over time I came to the conclusion that the way how our universe is structured and fine tuned, evolution not being random and nonsensical, but rather following some direction and rules, as well, as the fact of nonexistense of space-time before the Big Bang and it requiring something to create it, made me realise that it is illogical to assume the nonexistense of the intelligent Creator. I came to belief based on rational thinking and logic rather than following any religious texts.
I’m sorry but a lot of what you said comes off personal incredulity and not accurate.
Take for example the “the fact of nonexistence of space time before the Big Bang”….that’s not a fact. We don’t know what was or wast before the BB.
@@therick363 , ok, sorry for that oversight, so I agree that it's not a fact, but one of scientific theories, I know that, but I'm using that theory to draw my conclusions from it, based on a conclusion that before space-time there was no time, since universe is a 4dimensional construct that involves 3dimensions of space and one of time, therefore based on that we can assume that before the BB there was no space-time, as a possibility. Of course science constantly evolves and new theories come out over time, replacing even previously established ones. Of course I could be wrong, since it's impossible to know with certainty what exactly was before the BB. It's up to you to believe what was or wasn't before it, it's a personal matter after all. All I said about a Creator is also just a theory and the idea of it is also just a theory and not a fact, but I choose to believe that theory because it seems plausible and likely to me.
@@steelbreaker25but you’re still acting like what you’re saying is the most likely conclusion about before the Big Bang and it isn’t. The correct thing to say is we don’t know.
@@therick363 I feel more comfortable when we can assume some theory rather than say that we just don't know. What I mean is that I just think so and hold this belief, of course I could be wrong, but until there is any way it can be proven and I can be proven wrong, I agree to disagree.
@@steelbreaker25 okay then that’s a better way of describing it.
1 Corinthians chapter 1:18-31; Daniel 4:37; Colossians 2; Ephesians 2:8; John 4:24.
No one can reason God. That wouldn't be God, but mere intellect.
Intellect and faith are two parallel lines, they do not meet, save only at the cross. Then they must either part from one another or intellect stops and becomes part of it.
Thinking outside the Bible and having an open mind is something that as a Christian, is frustrating to get through to some other Christians.
Those are the fundamentalists...
My kids and i talk about this a lot because I'm not a believer and they are. (Don't ask me how, idk)
They find that their peers who wish to think of themselves as more sophisticated and intelligent will call themselves atheists. My argument is that even atheists must engage in faith in order to make new discoveries in scientific research. A few decades ago, a group of researchers declared that there must be at least 12 other dimensions that we simply don't have the tools to observe directly. They can't prove it, but they believe they exist and they were a group of mathematicians and quantum theorists. If they believe that mathematicians and quantum theorists are idiots because they believe in something they can't see, what more is there to say?
IQ scores aswell intelligence in of itself are rather nonsensical, as the brain encompasses all kinds of functionalities, such as mathematics or music.