I made my own and hit a 4 x 4 at 100 yards and went through it it’s been a lot of fun I’ve made thousands of these now in 2021 I’m actually glad I learned how because ammo is scarce
There is a very simple "Roll Crimp" tool that will fold the case down to the slug ($20-40). There are also pre-made spacers to put in your loads if you look at shotgun reloading supplies.
I heard about the Mountain Storm Shell Prepper thru fladermouse and I picked one up. With little effort and some practice I was working the shells easily and now....well you know what comes next. The range to test them out. Another great execution of American innovation. Thanks for sharing your invention with us.
My grandfather used "cut shells" to feed his family in the 1940s and 50s .He could not afford different boxes of shot size so he bought #4s and took everything from rabbits to deer with them. I still have his old shotgun and I can tell you....that damn thing kicks like a horse!!! I'll never shoot it again. It has a permanent place in the gun safe. He bought it for $10.00 and two chickens. LOL!!!
I would scrounge up some lead wheel weights to cast my slug and save the shot for another day. One more tip. If you do use shot for casting slugs dont get your lead too hot. That alloy can get brittle if cast too hot. Thanks for the video.
@@m1cajah it could be used as both depending on what you are loading. In this case it would be a filler so the slug wouldn't slide in the hull once loaded.
I've been thinkin of cotton balls mixed with petroleum jelly inside a molotov cocktail. Small fireballs bouncing from initial cookoff. Sounds interesting. But the thing you said works too...
oh and captn obvious wanted me to say... if you decide to go with accuracy over punch and I keep using the shot you dump out and remelt into slugs you'll get 2 freebie slugs for every 16 vs 1 on the 1 oz. just food for thought. that 1/8 of an oz extra in them clay shots is Purdy sweet that way!
Yourvideossuck247 When I can afford to I will be buying a Lee 7/8oz Slug Mold and casting my own. It's more work than making waxers but they will fly straighter at longer distances.
For those with mixed past times, I bet with a 3d printer you could print a bunch of spacers that slip right in there and not have to cut the foam board. For that matter, could also likely design a press to line up and seat the slug. I was already wondering if I could make a 3d model for that shell trimmer you have there.
Kind of defeats the purpose to use a multiple thousand dollar contraption to do what a pair of scissors you already have can do for next to nothing , and need specialized supplies for something that can be found in the trash
@@beavisroadhog9629 you can got a decent one for like 200 bucks. it's actually a really useful tool for any firearm guy or tinkerer in general. But it is an investment and if you just use it for making shotgun spacers...well yeah its not smart.
I would like to add a piece of learned info. The easiest, cheapest, and best way to do this properly is to put a couple of nitro cards in the shell before you push the slug in. They sell a bag of 500 nitro cards for ~9 bucks over at MidwayUSA which work flawlessly. They are very firm, looks like masonite material. You will need a smaller size to fit in the cup which is designed for shot. The BPI 20 gauge .125 nitro cards fit perfectly in the 12 gauge shot cup. Two cards, one 7/8 oz. slug, flush fit.
buying birdshot and converting it to slogs has been the best thing I've ever found cost me $40 for the shotgun slug mold and considering I pay $30 for 10 slugs it's paid for itself almost immediately
I do something similar to this, but I don't use foam or paper to fill the void; I use shot and the extra piece of wasted crimp plastic that is cut from the shell (nothing is wasted). I cut the shell in the same manner you do, and cast a few of the same 1 oz key drive slugs you are using. Instead of paper or foam, I fill the shot cup with a small amount 7 shot (approximately 1/8 ounce) to fill the void, stuff it down with that little plastic cut off, seat the slug and complete the shell. Seal it all off with a BPI Roll Crimper with my hand held drill, and load up. You end up with "SLUG AND BALL" load that performs well between 10 to 50 yards. The following shot behind the slug proves devastating to my paper targets, and (lord forbid) would make an excellent home defense round.
Might I suggest using an appropriately sized hole/hollow punch (the cylindrical type, used with a hammer) to punch out the foam board cut-outs? It seems it would save quite a bit of time and effort, especially for those no longer able to comfortably use scissors, for something so small and tedious. :)
I've been making wax loads for about 15 years now and they work amazing. They shooting them out of one of my Mossberg 500 for about 10 years and the wax will pick up any residue or debris left in the barrel from other loads works very well haven't had to clean my shotgun in years just as an experiment and it's still shoots true to this day! My smooth bore and rifled barrel
@Oregon Patriot point me to a forum that they didn’t prove that it was user error though lol. They’re fun, but it’s just like any aspect of shooting. You don’t do your part and you’ll pay for it.
Thanks for the great tip, was curious why you don't just cut the casing down far enough for a proper fit ? That way you could load several more rounds into a tube fed magazine.
Ty sir for all your prompt and helpful replies! ive yet to give waxers a try.. also a Lee 1 oz mold is like $20! the Lee Pro 4-20 (smelting pot) is also under a bill.. no I'm not a Lee employee lol. they just have the equip cheaper. lil insight if you do decide on a mold.. the 7/8 oz slugs are more accurate than 1 oz and if you want that stopping power maximus then Lyman has a 1 1/4 oz mold except that bad boy is like $8o. Ty again enjoyed talks n vid brotha!
+floyd shaman I just ordered the 7/8 oz Lee mold and I am going to see if I can develop some short low brass rounds so I can pack more in the tube mag. Thanks again for the advice.
+Mountain Storm Woahoaa! that's what's up man! u gotcha a smelting pot? I been watching "walking dead" while I decrimp federal #8 shells :) be reloading with 1oz slugs oh yea! Like my mentor/friend told me "an oz of prevention is worth a lb of cured" hahaha good for you man! like I said them 7/8ers are more accurate with more slugs
floyd shaman I almost got the ten pound Lyman pot for $17.55 shipped off eBay but then I thought why not head to the local Good will and see if I can find a cast iron something for a couple of bucks instead. I'll be using a camp stove down in the shop so all I need is something the wife won't throw a fit over me melting lead in lol
@@donaldsteele6276 thanks, but I also was thinking on making a low temp mold and just mixing bird with some form of apoxy or even a hard wax and then putting it back in the shell in the traditional 12 g a slug form.
countryguywithcamera I gotcha. Won't be easy because the cutter sets that crimp bead (unfortunate but true) like when you fold a piece of paper. The hull has to pass by the blade and the wood body of the hull and often this creases the edge there. So I would probably have to trim the ends with a razor knife and remove the whole deal. Sorry if my first response was foggy...I am not a morning person. I appreciate learning the correct way to do things...this isn't it lol. I also appreciate your input...i hope Federal will work to make some of the little guys I tested ( 1-3/4" ) and those I should be able roll crimp as well. Is there a technique or tool to facilitate roll crimping opened/cut hulls? Do you think I could replace the piston that sits over the powder with a fiber card?
What type of choke would you have to use so that you wont damage your barrel? Currently I have a full choke on mine and Im interested in casting these slugs from my bird shot shells. Thanks in advance for yalls help.
I just switched powder so instead of 34 grains of HS-6 with a Lee 1 ounce slug I just use my trap load 18.5 grains Red Dot meant for 1-1/8 ounce shot but with the 1 ounce slug. It leaves more space so the petals just push down in at an angle & then they stay there pushing against the slug nice & tight but at an angle. That lets you see the slug-no mistaking it for a regular shot shell. No extra time & no problem with the petals opening up over time like I've had happen when I've done it the standard way..
Has anyone tried using the cut out crimp as a spacer beneath the slug? They seem to space almost perfectly with 1 oz lee slugs an Winchester target loads.
I purchased one of the shell prepper tools, and it works great! I've only used it on the el cheapo Federal Wal-mart bulk packs you find for $20. Does anyone have any experience with the Winchester bulk pack shells? Does one or the other work better or is it a draw?
+Ca Jones Go with Federal. I don't like the Win GP Target Loads because the plastic is softer and the crimp is usually a touch deeper and the low "brass" rusts easily. I test my tool on Win GP because if it opens them it will open Federal or Remington or any other bulk target load easily.
In taking a crack at this myself, I've discovered that using a 3/4" hole saw in your card material will result in plugs approx 5/8" in diameter. They fit great and you can layer up your sheets and chuck em in your hand drill or drill press and really hammer em out. You'll want to remove the pilot drill bit from the hole saw as to keep the cards in one solid piece. I personally use cork underlayment from the flooring section of the hardware store, but cardboard has worked very well for me as well. I have achieved exceptional accuracy out of these lee 7/8 oz slugs in target loads.
Shotguns are perfect for SHTF scenarios because of what's required to reload a shotshell. Shotshells can be reloaded with both smokeless powder and black powder (black powder is extremely easy to make, unlike smokeless powder). 209 primers can easily be remade using armstrongs mix, flash powder or paper snapcaps. The slug can be held in with a little melted hot glue from a glue stick and a lighter or match. Most bullets require smokeless powder to reload which can be difficult to obtain in SHTF scenarios (with the exception of a few bullets such as 45 long colt which can also be reloaded with black powder). Smokeless powder can not easily be made (unlike black powder which is simple to make). Shotshells are used for both hunting and defense scenarios (as well as on the battlefield). If all else fails, the plastic hull can be trimmed off and the brass bottom of the shotshell (with a loaded 209 primer) can be loaded in a shotgun allowing the barrel of the shotgun to be loaded and operated like a muzzleloader. You can't say the same for regular rifles. If this process of reloading shotshells is to complicated, just use the shotshell as a cutshell. There are plent of places on youtube and google that show how to turn any shotshell into a cutshell (or cut shell). It allows any type of shotshell (including target shot) to be used as a slug (without the possibility of reloading the shotshell). Sincerely, Jacob SurvivalGeek (RUclips) ruclips.net/channel/UCfRsUPToBXp4ZIre__dJg4A
Jesse Urban I am not sure your background. However I have seen combat over two campaign's.I was also a arms and DT instructor. I would say you are 100% incorrect.
Maybe I'm just old but I remember taking deer with a simple cut shell. For those of you who likely have no idea what that is it's exactly as it sounds. !!Never use one in a semi auto it might explode!!
For those that don’t have the opportunity to prep slugs before hand a cut shell in the field can work. Not as effective as a true slug but in a pinch inside 70y or so I’d definitely take a shot with it. May have a more effective range but I get mixed results at 100y
@@hailtothe_rooster1572 Sounds reasonable. I've honestly never tried to take one that far away.. I'll say 40-50 yards max.. But I'm happy at least a couple folks have been taught some older "hacks".
Can you modify the hulls to fit old 12 gage shot guns with 2 9/16 chambers? I only have one case of 2 1/2 shells left. This looks like a good solution.
Get you a small C02 cartridge and cut The rounded end off with a tubing cutter put the small end in a drill press. stack you about six layers up and punch through them all at one time and use an air blower and blow them out of your cartridge and make sure it is an empty used cartridge. Or if you want to be exact get you an old shotgun shell high brass and take the primer out of it put a small bolt that is long through the hole. you may have to drill it out. Tighten it up, you may even have to solder it in place the bolt is so you can chuck it up in a drill press. you can cut the drill press on and use a file to sharpen the brass so it will cut through the foam board really easy. you do not have to run the drill press to punch out the foam board. Thank you for the video
I see you are one of the many that still think hi brass shells have more strength than the low brass... well it's nothing but a myth! Educate yourself... www.thereloadersnetwork.com/2018/10/26/ending-the-high-brass-low-brass-shotshell-strength-debate/
drip some resin into the shell bonding the shot together. you can also use flex al paint. slowly drip it into the shell around the shot until filled up allow to dry. you have a rock hard weighted slug. because it's a hardened rubber when dry, I cut the top off, fill the shell, let dry and you are ready to go. it's quick, simple, and it WORKS. a 3/4 inch plywood is like a paper target.
It really gets into your body if you eat, drink, or smoke during or after handling lead. Melting down is a little different, but adequate ventilation can fix that. If you in a workspace where there's a lot of lead, just assume everything is contaminated and wash your hands after touching anything in there.
I’ve seen a lot of these kinds of videos trying to convert cheap target loads into something more effective there’s this, waxed slugs, cut shells and I’m sure other ideas floating around. They all have the same issue if they start life as a target load they are grossly under powered. If you start with something like a turkey, goose, or buck shot load to get the proper power charge they cost as much as a slug. In the long run it’s cheaper, more far more reliable and effective to simply load your own shells. Don’t half ass it and buy cheap target loads and make some form of jurry rigged slugs. Either make them right or spend the money and buy shells someone else made the right way. Target loads use 18-19.5 grains slugs use 42-45 grains depending on the power used when loading or the manufacture your buying from any way you cut it that’s less than half of the proper power charge.
Bird shot isn't a target load. And it's still a lot cheaper than slugs. But I agree in principle. Which is why you take the powder out and recount, and add in your own powder to make up the difference. Really, it's the primers you can't get right now. Powder is cheap, and so is lead.
It's easy to convert any birdshot shells into slugs. Just rim cut the plastic hull right below the shot cup on the wad. Whole shell comes out in one piece and does a mess of damage to anything on the other end. Jess sayin
I really hope you see this ....have you ever tried using higher velocity birdshot turned into a slug in the same shotshell? I ask because I wonder if it would be dangerous because of varying pressures I'm not familiar with reloading but I'm interested in these trying these slugs
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Who else is watching this in 2021 during the ammo gouge?
Of course. Knowledge is power....
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I am,lol
Question is do we do this or just use “cut-shells”
Me .
All I have to do now is find target shot shells. There is nothing around here.
I use a drywall screw to pull the crimp open a replace birdshot with buckshot , close the crimp up and you're golden
Makes more sense
Thanks that is very helpful much appreciated
Much better than this guys process
do you then put a slug under the original crimp and reclose? Is there any problem with the original crimp opening up when shooting the slug?
@@mikfel1 he said buckshot is what he uses not slugs.
2015: what a nut job get some high brass you broke back mountain boi
2021: certified genius
LMAO!
This is gonna become a new homeschool “class” for my 5 kids HAHAHAHAHA! Sweatshop in America, here I come!
This would be a good thing for them to learn.
I'll pay $.75 a round get them working😂😂
If you have a 3/4" or 7/8" gasket punch, you could make those foam spacers quick and easy.
I made my own and hit a 4 x 4 at 100 yards and went through it it’s been a lot of fun I’ve made thousands of these now in 2021 I’m actually glad I learned how because ammo is scarce
What kind of gun powder do you use?
I cut back on sporting clays because just finding target loads has been getting harder.
There is a very simple "Roll Crimp" tool that will fold the case down to the slug ($20-40). There are also pre-made spacers to put in your loads if you look at shotgun reloading supplies.
Hey brother. Great video. Tip, never film into a window the Autogain will adjust to the exterior superior light and crush your foreground
I heard about the Mountain Storm Shell Prepper thru fladermouse and I picked one up. With little effort and some practice I was working the shells easily and now....well you know what comes next. The range to test them out. Another great execution of American innovation. Thanks for sharing your invention with us.
My grandfather used "cut shells" to feed his family in the 1940s and 50s .He could not afford different boxes of shot size so he bought #4s and took everything from rabbits to deer with them. I still have his old shotgun and I can tell you....that damn thing kicks like a horse!!! I'll never shoot it again. It has a permanent place in the gun safe. He bought it for $10.00 and two chickens. LOL!!!
Go to Walmart and buy a limb saver in the sport department,saves this old mans shoulder,80 years old. $20.00
Then you need go the Gym get stronger,if you that weak..cannot hold a shotgun,or buy a stockcussion..😂😂😂💪
this great, now I know what to do with all my 12 ga. bird shot I bought during o'bummers reign...
I'd try one first and fire it before doing more.
Hahaha. I thought I was the only one who called him O'bummer.
@@BigD-jc6rj Obozo is a classic too
I call him Barrack Osama
Where's the video of him shooting these
I guess you don't know how to search a channel's videos for "slug", or "Lee slug".
@@throngcleaver thanks
Exactly what I'm looking for, converting target loads into 1oz slugs. Aweaome
I would scrounge up some lead wheel weights to cast my slug and save the shot for another day.
One more tip. If you do use shot for casting slugs dont get your lead too hot. That alloy can get brittle if cast too hot.
Thanks for the video.
Use the brass from an old high brass shell as a disk cutter for the foam.
You may want to consider using a cotton ball for the filler instead of cutting cards.
As just a cushion wad, or to replace the over powder wad as well? Cause that’s actually brilliant and will start doing that in my black powder shells.
@@m1cajah it could be used as both depending on what you are loading. In this case it would be a filler so the slug wouldn't slide in the hull once loaded.
Smart!!
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I've been thinkin of cotton balls mixed with petroleum jelly inside a molotov cocktail. Small fireballs bouncing from initial cookoff. Sounds interesting. But the thing you said works too...
oh and captn obvious wanted me to say... if you decide to go with accuracy over punch and I keep using the shot you dump out and remelt into slugs you'll get 2 freebie slugs for every 16 vs 1 on the 1 oz. just food for thought. that 1/8 of an oz extra in them clay shots is Purdy sweet that way!
A size 15 socket makes a nice round
There is no such thing as a size 15 socket.
@@Freekniggers 15mm
@@donaldsteele6276 bruh what the hell is he thinking? 😂
@@Freekniggers how to say you don't have man skills without saying you dont have man skills
Those slugs are sweet. I been making wax slugs and went shooting a few weeks ago and man those are super fun to destroy stuff
Yourvideossuck247 When I can afford to I will be buying a Lee 7/8oz Slug Mold and casting my own. It's more work than making waxers but they will fly straighter at longer distances.
I bet if you have shoot someone with that wax, it'll hurt like hell
@@beebob1279 it could probably kill someone lol
Bought a Lee mold on eBay for $40 shipping included! - this is very simple and works great!!!
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Pretty awesome. Will have to try this.
nice. I tried this and they work great. instead of the foam wad I just put the cut piece of plastic back on top and it holds well!
That's actually a great idea!
Best idea going! Cheers!
How accurate
For those with mixed past times, I bet with a 3d printer you could print a bunch of spacers that slip right in there and not have to cut the foam board. For that matter, could also likely design a press to line up and seat the slug. I was already wondering if I could make a 3d model for that shell trimmer you have there.
The wood is his homeade tool cuts the plastic perfect
Kind of defeats the purpose to use a multiple thousand dollar contraption to do what a pair of scissors you already have can do for next to nothing , and need specialized supplies for something that can be found in the trash
@@beavisroadhog9629 you can got a decent one for like 200 bucks. it's actually a really useful tool for any firearm guy or tinkerer in general. But it is an investment and if you just use it for making shotgun spacers...well yeah its not smart.
Do it yourself. Enjoyed it. Informative for THE DIY shotgun Guy. Loved it 🇺🇸✅🇺🇸💯
I’ll be trying this with 410. Right now can’t get 410 other than bird shot, so time to modify.
Did you try a wax slug or hot glue version for your 410 bird shot? . I found a box of five slugs for $7.29 so looking for alternatives
Add birds hot under slug for spacer. Buckshot maby
3:00 OH NO! Now I can never look at shotgun slugs the same way.
3:02 aaaaaah you just made me look at slug differently now😂😂😂😂🤣
A most glorious frugal prepper mod!!
I would like to add a piece of learned info. The easiest, cheapest, and best way to do this properly is to put a couple of nitro cards in the shell before you push the slug in. They sell a bag of 500 nitro cards for ~9 bucks over at MidwayUSA which work flawlessly. They are very firm, looks like masonite material. You will need a smaller size to fit in the cup which is designed for shot. The BPI 20 gauge .125 nitro cards fit perfectly in the 12 gauge shot cup. Two cards, one 7/8 oz. slug, flush fit.
+Ca Jones Good info.
This channel is where the newbie shotgun reloaders Go to learn things in a slightly hap hazard way
buying birdshot and converting it to slogs has been the best thing I've ever found cost me $40 for the shotgun slug mold and considering I pay $30 for 10 slugs it's paid for itself almost immediately
I do something similar to this, but I don't use foam or paper to fill the void; I use shot and the extra piece of wasted crimp plastic that is cut from the shell (nothing is wasted). I cut the shell in the same manner you do, and cast a few of the same 1 oz key drive slugs you are using. Instead of paper or foam, I fill the shot cup with a small amount 7 shot (approximately 1/8 ounce) to fill the void, stuff it down with that little plastic cut off, seat the slug and complete the shell. Seal it all off with a BPI Roll Crimper with my hand held drill, and load up. You end up with "SLUG AND BALL" load that performs well between 10 to 50 yards. The following shot behind the slug proves devastating to my paper targets, and (lord forbid) would make an excellent home defense round.
Pretty innovative, but my first thought as I’m watching your vid is that I would try a cotton ball. It would be way quicker.
Make as many as you can man . Gold mine right there!
Might I suggest using an appropriately sized hole/hollow punch (the cylindrical type, used with a hammer) to punch out the foam board cut-outs? It seems it would save quite a bit of time and effort, especially for those no longer able to comfortably use scissors, for something so small and tedious. :)
Try a 3/4" hole punch...and punch out disks from cereal boxes, pasta boxes, anything stiff. Stack'em up as needed!
I did this and it works amazingly
I wonder what would happen if you added thin epoxy to the birdshot while still in the tube?
I have poured hot wax into 7 1/2 clay shells and it worked great
Wax is fine because it releases from the shell but I would be hesitant to use any sort of epoxy or glue for fear that you've just created a small bomb
Definitely no epoxy I couldn't imagine that would turn out good
There is room enough to put a few peices of buckshot behind the slug. You could also melt down old fishing sinkers or tire balancing weights.
I’ve made slugs with birdshot before but after I cut the top off I just melted a crayon into the bbs .
I was also expecting him to wax it.
I've been making wax loads for about 15 years now and they work amazing. They shooting them out of one of my Mossberg 500 for about 10 years and the wax will pick up any residue or debris left in the barrel from other loads works very well haven't had to clean my shotgun in years just as an experiment and it's still shoots true to this day! My smooth bore and rifled barrel
@@jameskennedy1034 When you say wax loads,do you mean that rather than crimping the shell you sealed the end with wax so the slug stays in place?
@@ciphercode2298 yes absolutely I had a tool to print the end but lost it and simply waxing the end of works as well
@@jameskennedy1034 awesome,thank you. May give this a try.
Amazon and most craft stores carry paper punches im 5/8 and 3/4 dia
And a bunch of other sizes too.
@John Beige These are like a regular paper punch. Not one you hit with a hammer. But whatever clicks your trigger.
A low brass slug!!! Man slugs are already nasty but when you slow one down its got to be like a sledge hammer.
Exactly what I was thinking! Maybe like some one throwing a rock. Guess I will lookup a video of someone shooting a low brass lee slug, now!!
Usable sure.....ish. I mean....it's definitely not like the powder charge between a slug and birdshot are different or anything.
@Oregon Patriot I mean ... people have been doing this successfully for years...
@Oregon Patriot point me to a forum that they didn’t prove that it was user error though lol. They’re fun, but it’s just like any aspect of shooting. You don’t do your part and you’ll pay for it.
@Oregon Patriot instead of refuting my point, you choose to cast insults based on perceived notions? Yep, I’m totally the liberal here.
Thanks for the great tip, was curious why you don't just cut the casing down far enough for a proper fit ? That way you could load several more rounds into a tube fed magazine.
Because the way he cut the top, it left a lip. If you were to cut the side of the shell there would be no lip to help retain the slug.
@@ottokiehl5413 Thank you!
Ty sir for all your prompt and helpful replies! ive yet to give waxers a try.. also a Lee 1 oz mold is like $20! the Lee Pro 4-20 (smelting pot) is also under a bill.. no I'm not a Lee employee lol. they just have the equip cheaper. lil insight if you do decide on a mold.. the 7/8 oz slugs are more accurate than 1 oz and if you want that stopping power maximus then Lyman has a 1 1/4 oz mold except that bad boy is like $8o.
Ty again enjoyed talks n vid brotha!
+floyd shaman I just ordered the 7/8 oz Lee mold and I am going to see if I can develop some short low brass rounds so I can pack more in the tube mag. Thanks again for the advice.
+Mountain Storm
Woahoaa! that's what's up man! u gotcha a smelting pot? I been watching "walking dead" while I decrimp federal #8 shells :)
be reloading with 1oz slugs oh yea! Like my mentor/friend told me "an oz of prevention is worth a lb of cured" hahaha good for you man! like I said them 7/8ers are more accurate with more slugs
floyd shaman
I almost got the ten pound Lyman pot for $17.55 shipped off eBay but then I thought why not head to the local Good will and see if I can find a cast iron something for a couple of bucks instead. I'll be using a camp stove down in the shop so all I need is something the wife won't throw a fit over me melting lead in lol
+Mountain Storm
there ya go haha! Don't need electricity and may not have it during the zombie apocalypse anyway ;)
Steel ball bearings work good too
What size for 12 g a ?
@@cuntpuncherino 2.60 or a .73. Or just use lead and a size 15 deep socket those are great lol
@@donaldsteele6276 thanks, but I also was thinking on making a low temp mold and just mixing bird with some form of apoxy or even a hard wax and then putting it back in the shell in the traditional 12 g a slug form.
I was talking about re-crimping that shell with a roll crimp after you cut it, not using different shells, i used the estate shells as an example
countryguywithcamera I gotcha. Won't be easy because the cutter sets that crimp bead (unfortunate but true) like when you fold a piece of paper. The hull has to pass by the blade and the wood body of the hull and often this creases the edge there. So I would probably have to trim the ends with a razor knife and remove the whole deal. Sorry if my first response was foggy...I am not a morning person. I appreciate learning the correct way to do things...this isn't it lol. I also appreciate your input...i hope Federal will work to make some of the little guys I tested ( 1-3/4" ) and those I should be able roll crimp as well. Is there a technique or tool to facilitate roll crimping opened/cut hulls? Do you think I could replace the piston that sits over the powder with a fiber card?
What type of choke would you have to use so that you wont damage your barrel? Currently I have a full choke on mine and Im interested in casting these slugs from my bird shot shells. Thanks in advance for yalls help.
I just switched powder so instead of 34 grains of HS-6 with a Lee 1 ounce slug I just use my trap load 18.5 grains Red Dot meant for 1-1/8 ounce shot but with the 1 ounce slug. It leaves more space so the petals just push down in at an angle & then they stay there pushing against the slug nice & tight but at an angle. That lets you see the slug-no mistaking it for a regular shot shell. No extra time & no problem with the petals opening up over time like I've had happen when I've done it the standard way..
Has anyone tried using the cut out crimp as a spacer beneath the slug? They seem to space almost perfectly with 1 oz lee slugs an Winchester target loads.
Is there any safety concerns in using a 1oz shot shell to make 7/8 slug?
That is brilliant!
I purchased one of the shell prepper tools, and it works great! I've only used it on the el cheapo Federal Wal-mart bulk packs you find for $20. Does anyone have any experience with the Winchester bulk pack shells? Does one or the other work better or is it a draw?
+Ca Jones Go with Federal. I don't like the Win GP Target Loads because the plastic is softer and the crimp is usually a touch deeper and the low "brass" rusts easily. I test my tool on Win GP because if it opens them it will open Federal or Remington or any other bulk target load easily.
Ever loaded these with fibre wadded target shells?
Went from wax slugs to caster reloader, just buy some primers, a roll crimp, hulls and wads cc dippers and a hand loader.
Whole lot easier to just make cut shells, we call em poor boy slugs!
You can take a sharp knife and cut 3/4 way around shot and turn the whole shot pack into a slug, you can do a whole box in 2 mins and it's free.
just got 300 8-shot shells from walmart cheap....25 cents each....going to pick up my 1oz slug mold in about an hour.
Hey slugs are great for deer
Its hell on birds 🤣
I was thinking, the slugs might pop out of the shell under recoil in the magazine if they are loose.
They are not loose because the cutter has a tiny bit of the crimp rim left on the edge like a fake or tiny roll crimp
Can I do this same thing using a 1 Oz lee slug?
In taking a crack at this myself, I've discovered that using a 3/4" hole saw in your card material will result in plugs approx 5/8" in diameter. They fit great and you can layer up your sheets and chuck em in your hand drill or drill press and really hammer em out. You'll want to remove the pilot drill bit from the hole saw as to keep the cards in one solid piece.
I personally use cork underlayment from the flooring section of the hardware store, but cardboard has worked very well for me as well. I have achieved exceptional accuracy out of these lee 7/8 oz slugs in target loads.
I just saw this and believe this is the answer to my problem for 12 gage shells. Can't find em make em!
I bought one of those Russian hand roll crimp devices. That should work well.
Where did you get that crimping tool? It sounds great.
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I make ballistic tipped rounds with small fins that fit nice . You can add thermite to a hollowed one .
ever try a 35 dollar roll crimper?
Actually, you can get a nylon electric-drill type roll crimper for $15.00. I have one. Takes a few minutes of practice, but it works just fine.
ComocosonoEWL if you are in this for SHTF, I think a shotgun slug is the wrong route to go entirely anyway
Shotguns are perfect for SHTF scenarios because of what's required to reload a shotshell. Shotshells can be reloaded with both smokeless powder and black powder (black powder is extremely easy to make, unlike smokeless powder). 209 primers can easily be remade using armstrongs mix, flash powder or paper snapcaps. The slug can be held in with a little melted hot glue from a glue stick and a lighter or match.
Most bullets require smokeless powder to reload which can be difficult to obtain in SHTF scenarios (with the exception of a few bullets such as 45 long colt which can also be reloaded with black powder). Smokeless powder can not easily be made (unlike black powder which is simple to make).
Shotshells are used for both hunting and defense scenarios (as well as on the battlefield).
If all else fails, the plastic hull can be trimmed off and the brass bottom of the shotshell (with a loaded 209 primer) can be loaded in a shotgun allowing the barrel of the shotgun to be loaded and operated like a muzzleloader. You can't say the same for regular rifles.
If this process of reloading shotshells is to complicated, just use the shotshell as a cutshell. There are plent of places on youtube and google that show how to turn any shotshell into a cutshell (or cut shell). It allows any type of shotshell (including target shot) to be used as a slug (without the possibility of reloading the shotshell).
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Jacob
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Jesse Urban I am not sure your background. However I have seen combat over two campaign's.I was also a arms and DT instructor. I would say you are 100% incorrect.
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Is this nylon roll crimper still available and what is the name, or brand of the nylon crimper
I emailed you and never got a response. Assuming you went underground
Biden scares him.
Did you made a slug? Or you'll buy it? Thanks...
Doesn't the smaller slug affect accuracy?
Maybe I'm just old but I remember taking deer with a simple cut shell. For those of you who likely have no idea what that is it's exactly as it sounds. !!Never use one in a semi auto it might explode!!
For those that don’t have the opportunity to prep slugs before hand a cut shell in the field can work. Not as effective as a true slug but in a pinch inside 70y or so I’d definitely take a shot with it. May have a more effective range but I get mixed results at 100y
@@hailtothe_rooster1572 Sounds reasonable. I've honestly never tried to take one that far away.. I'll say 40-50 yards max.. But I'm happy at least a couple folks have been taught some older "hacks".
Exactly..such homemade shells,you can only use safe in a doublebarrel or Singlebarrel.....
I am limited to antiques only if I get an 1880 shotgun could I use plastic shell in them or would I have to make them black powder loads
I doubt it. I think most antique shotuns use reloadable all brass hulls.
Smart idea. You could do this to make buck shot also
Is this shell prepping tool still available?
Can you modify the hulls to fit old 12 gage shot guns with 2 9/16 chambers? I only have one case of 2 1/2 shells left. This looks like a good solution.
Get you a small C02 cartridge and cut The rounded end
off with a tubing cutter put the small end in a drill press. stack you about six layers up and punch through them all at one time and use an air blower and blow them out of your cartridge and make sure it is an empty used cartridge.
Or if you want to be exact get you an old shotgun shell high brass and take the primer out of it put a small bolt that is long through the hole. you may have to drill it out. Tighten it up, you may even have to solder it in place the bolt is so you can chuck it up in a drill press. you can cut the drill press on and use a file to sharpen the brass so it will cut through the foam board really easy. you do not have to run the drill press to punch out the foam board.
Thank you for the video
May have some stocked up t.p. for the wads lol
Ah...can that low brass charge power that slug?
He said they're 7/8 slugs, they weigh a quarter ounce lighter than the original load, so yeah, the low brass can push it
I see you are one of the many that still think hi brass shells have more strength than the low brass... well it's nothing but a myth! Educate yourself...
www.thereloadersnetwork.com/2018/10/26/ending-the-high-brass-low-brass-shotshell-strength-debate/
drip some resin into the shell bonding the shot together. you can also use flex al paint. slowly drip it into the shell around the shot until filled up allow to dry. you have a rock hard weighted slug. because it's a hardened rubber when dry, I cut the top off, fill the shell, let dry and you are ready to go. it's quick, simple, and it WORKS. a 3/4 inch plywood is like a paper target.
Very good information. I'm going to have to look into getting a setup like that. Nice!
A lot of people seem relaxed about handling lead. That stuff gets into your body. Be safe friends
Yes. Use gloves. Definitely.
Mad Hatter
@@bigwooly8014 l wrote a long reply and lost it. You are not quite right friend.
It really gets into your body if you eat, drink, or smoke during or after handling lead. Melting down is a little different, but adequate ventilation can fix that. If you in a workspace where there's a lot of lead, just assume everything is contaminated and wash your hands after touching anything in there.
@@Jamesnebula Fair enough. Deleted comment out of abundance of caution.
I would like to buy your shell prepping tool and i dont live in the US. Where can i order it?
I’ve seen a lot of these kinds of videos trying to convert cheap target loads into something more effective there’s this, waxed slugs, cut shells and I’m sure other ideas floating around. They all have the same issue if they start life as a target load they are grossly under powered. If you start with something like a turkey, goose, or buck shot load to get the proper power charge they cost as much as a slug. In the long run it’s cheaper, more far more reliable and effective to simply load your own shells. Don’t half ass it and buy cheap target loads and make some form of jurry rigged slugs. Either make them right or spend the money and buy shells someone else made the right way. Target loads use 18-19.5 grains slugs use 42-45 grains depending on the power used when loading or the manufacture your buying from any way you cut it that’s less than half of the proper power charge.
Bird shot isn't a target load. And it's still a lot cheaper than slugs.
But I agree in principle.
Which is why you take the powder out and recount, and add in your own powder to make up the difference.
Really, it's the primers you can't get right now.
Powder is cheap, and so is lead.
Does anyone know where you can get one of these tools now?
I sure wish I could find a way to make contact with Mountain Storm so I could buy another shell prepper and other cool stuff he has.
If you know someone with a 3d printer you can find prints for them. I made one myself and it works great.
Can you dip lead casted buckshot or slugs in melted zinc for a jacket?
would the leeshot gun mold be ok for making slugs out of lead bullets from the range
I don't cut, i just open and re-crimp. Works fine with slugs or buckshot. Simple easy.
Nice job!
It's easy to convert any birdshot shells into slugs. Just rim cut the plastic hull right below the shot cup on the wad. Whole shell comes out in one piece and does a mess of damage to anything on the other end. Jess sayin
you could say that again.
How do these feed in an autoloader like a Browning A5?
20 years we made slugs with our pocket knife for free……Cut shell, very effective
You can also ring a birdsong and make a slug out it
This is one of the best firearm videos I’ve seen. I’m about to have 1000 slugs! Fuck yes!!!!!!!!!
Another fun round to load is 7/8 oz shot of daisy bbs
पेंट का डिब्बा पाखाना जाने के मस्त काम में आएगा, उसका भी वीडियो बनाओ न इंग्लिश😋😋🤣🤣🤣
I would like to buy your shell prepping tool How can I purchase it?
Been doing this lately with steel bearings in .410 bore. Makes some impressive holes.
hey...hows that steel working out for ya? Ive been tempted to get the steel bearings from amazon cheap for the same thing.
A year later. Steel bearings are not a good idea dude, can split your barrel. How is it still? They’re just not soft like lead is.
Have you tried a little Acra Glas on the bird shot?
My go to still.
Great info
I really hope you see this ....have you ever tried using higher velocity birdshot turned into a slug in the same shotshell? I ask because I wonder if it would be dangerous because of varying pressures I'm not familiar with reloading but I'm interested in these trying these slugs
Mass is the same.