Nice review, but I feel like you forgot that you can use the free wild resource with Grasping Tendrils during the villain phase, so you don't have to hope Strength comes out with it, and you only lose the one other card. A double stun for two cost is pretty good. I'll add that I got a lot of use out of Jarnbjorn when playing him on aggression. Combo'd well with Fussilade since Jarnbjorn doesn't need to exhaust to use it, and the free wild resource turned into the extra fist I needed to do that two bonus damage.
Very excited to try out Venom soon. Just moved so I haven't had time to unbox and set them up, but he definitely seems like he will be right up my alley
Excited for Venom. He seems versatile enough to work with all aspects but I'm liking the justice card sonic rifle paired with his hero cards. Project rebirth is awesome and side holster looks like a good one to include for other weapon built heroes. Not so impressed with the allies included in this pack but overall another must-buy hero. Cheers.
Yeah, I'm also very happy with Venom so far. It's not my favourite hero of the new ones that have released this year, but I'm definitely having a great time with him.
Locked and loaded also allows you to chase specific resources to allow you to qualify the bonuses as long as you built your deck accordingly. Much like using Ironman's other boot to go aerial every round.
I may be mistaken but I haven’t seen anyone refer to chump-support/chump-upgrades. I’ve been in circumstances where an encounter card causes me to have to discard one of the goodies I’ve worked so hard to get on the board. Helicarrier after just one use as a recent example. Crew Quarters is cheap, it does a little thing but it also protects more expensive things from hitting the discard pile.
Yeah, that's actually a really good point. If you're expecting to have to discard a support from play with a hero who relies on them a lot, Crew Quarters is an excellent target for that!
Not a huge fan of Fusillade with Venom because you are losing the ability of that weapon. It is okay with Rocket, but it really is best with weapons that don't exhaust like Jarnbjorn or drax's knives. Welcome aboard is essentially a double resource card only for allies. If you have a lot of allies and a bunch of them are basic, then yeah, it is a solid card instead of Power of Leadership. The MP uses are cool too. Shake it off is amazing with Drax. Overall, Venom is a very powerful and extremely versatile hero.
Yeah I hear what you're saying and it's a good point. I think what Fusillade does allow for with Venom is if you're in a situation where Multi-Gun's damage isn't enough, you can essentially up it to 5 for a turn to accomplish something you otherwise wouldn't be able to with it. But there are definitely other heroes that are better targets for including it!
Welcome aboard is similar to power of leadership/us all, except its limited to allies. The nice part is that it can be used for allies of any aspect, so in solo that means your basic and leadership. It is nice for a guardian tribal deck because all the guardian allies outside of star-lord are basic and expensive. It also works in multiplayer as you can help your teammates get allies for cheaper as well. There seems to be an effort recently to allow leadership more options to be support (regroup and welcome aboard) rather than the hardcarry. Is it really strong? no but I think it's good enough to include and encourage cooperation and leadership to offer support playstyles.
Yeah, I was about to comment that Welcome Aboard seems best in multi-player to let another player get the full 2 cost discount, especially if you would've had a leftover card in your hand anyway, which happens relatively often
@@justinvamp15 Good points. Ally discounts are also pretty impactful as they negate some of the negative tempo on a lot of the 3 health + allies that don't want to chump block by allowing the player another card that turn to deal with problems.
I don't know a lot about Jack Flag. I vaguely remember Starlord rescuing him from somewhere he was being imprisoned, back before the Guardians morphed into their MCU versions, and Jack joining the Guardians and being grumpy about having to deal with 'cosmic stuff.'
I'm only at Grasping Tentacles, so maybe you address this, but...: I LOVE Grasping Tentacles. If you have Spidersense, you get to draw a card, then cancel the villains attack. Venoms resource ability works every Phase so you only need one fist from hand to stun the villain. So you draw a card, cancel the attack, and stun the villain for a cost of 2 cards from hand and 1 HP. Which sets you up to stay in Hero form longer and dish damage.
Also, if you can get a helicarrier out his cards only require the Hero resource for the bonus effect as the entire cost has then been paid for via the required resource type.
Really like the set up. Audio and ability to see the cards are great. Very professional and appreciate the explanations. New sub! Also other than War Machine this Hero is the one I was most excited about. Looks so fun and can't wait for it to arrive. Will be using Justice Venom as my main until War Machine comes out.
Something about Crew Quarters that’s easily missed (by solo players) is that it’s utility increases outside of solo. In a four player game, you would play this on the hero who is most likely to be in alter-ego form, and that player can opportunistically heal any other player who is also in alter ego without either player having to Recover.
I like Welcome Aboard as another double resource card, albeit a very limited one. I hope we see more cost reducers like this in the future to support very specific deck types, I.e. an aggression card that reduces the next weapon played.
Remember Thor and how much he sucked initially? I recently made a Thor aggression deck over the weekend and was able to defeat red skull with the cards that have recently come out. These newer cards have really helped older heroes.
Yeah Thor is one I've been meaning to go back to after seeing all these new cards that have come out. I'm really enjoying how new releases are also reinvigorating older ones.
I always look forward to your analysis, great work as always! I actually stopped the video halfway through to go buy Venom and then came back and watched the rest heh.
@@AllYouCanBoard hah yes, definitely. I’m glad I picked him up, Venom is really fun, love being able to confuse, do some damage because the villain is confused, then flip to alter-ego with basically no consequence. You weren’t kidding about how good Project Rebirth 2.0 is, the games where I found it immediately were so much easier compared to the ones where I didn’t.
I’m a little surprised he doesn’t have ammo counters. Essentially he has 3 weapon slots and 3 weapons, that just sit there, leaving him 1 slot from the Side Holster card in which he can “cycle” weapons with counters. Of course, I haven’t played him yet, but that doesn’t seem to call for a ton of weapon cards,?which was what I imagined for a 4 weapon slots hero. I’ll keep an open mind, but at this point Rocket seems like way more fun 🤔 Great video as always! 👍
Yeah I see what you're saying. From a deck-building perspective, you don't necessarily want to include a whole ton of weapons because they're going to reach a bottleneck where you can't play anymore without discarding one. But I do like how this makes him unique and different from other weapon users too. Thanks for watching!
"Welcome Aboard" is basically another way to play Power of Leadership, but also with any grey allies or allies pulled from other decks using "Make the Call." That said, I don't know that I'd bother with it except for very specifically built decks for specific encounters with specific players using specific aspects. "Shake it Off" is gonna go great with "Bait and Switch."
I think you might be undervaluing Welcome Aboard just a little bit. It is more flexible than the Power of Leadership as it applies to all basic Allies. The end effect is that it's basically another double resource that just pays for allies, not something a sneeze at.
I'm really enjoying Venom he's good fun. WRT Grasping Tendrils Like you I've found you generally only need 1 Strength Resource from a card as you can use Symbiotoc Bond to generate a * Resource. 1 Damage and 1 Resource to Stun the Villain or Minion is pretty good value IMO.
"Welcome aboard" plus Starlord's ability can put in a 5 cost minion in play without using any other card. Granted you get an encounter card, but you want them with Starlord.
But so can power of leadership. Really this is just POL number 3 and 4 with limitations on use and a worse resource. It can be used multiplayer though to trade resources with interest essentially. No idea if that's useful as I don't play MP.
Jack Flag was a hero that got sent to the negative zone prison during civil war. Then he joined the guardians and trying find a way home to earth. He hates cosmic stuff.
I have not got him yet as I've been playing other things but I was drooling over the wild resource from the start :) . Jack Flag might be too slow like Luke Cage is. Helicarrier plus Symbiotic Bond pays for any of the events that care about resources. Confused is great, it's good Concussive Blow has some competition. Alter ego is better than Hero most of the time, except for the threat on the main scheme and confused sorts that out (mostly). Guardians of Justice can get a LOT of confuse effects now. I plan to try a protection never defend build to try to double dip on symbiotes and to heal that damage :)
My ears perked up at the protection build for Venom! I'm always interested in protection builds for heroes as I enjoy that aspect a lot. Definitely something i'm going to be playing around with myself too.
It seemed you were comparing Savage Attack to 3-cost hero attacks (Pinpoint Strike, Swinging Web Kick) instead of 2-cost attacks (Root Stomp, Venom Blast). Savage Attack is on par with other 2-cost heroic attack events, albeit with a less exciting kicker than some.
Yeah, you're definitely right. I guess I've just been spoiled by some of the big damage dealers of late! But that's not to say that the cost-to-damage ratio of Venom's isn't completely fair.
Yeah, he definitely doesn’t have those huge number cards. But instead of a 3-cost, 8 damage event he gets Run and Gun, which adds up to a lot of damage and thwart after he’s built. It seems he’s all about flexibility and versatility at the expense of big swings.
Wouldn't it be better to have a power of leadership than the welcome aboard since it has more utility ? What would be the reasoning to have this card in your deck?
5:10 wait you can use wild resources that way? I remember reading a bgg post saying that wild resources cant be used that way and really thinking it sucked that they couldnt, hope i havent been playing wrong
Plasma Pistols into Tony Stark decks could be useful to help boost his hand size sooner/more reliably.
“The alter-ego is not very flashy.” Pun unintended haha.
Or very Thompsony
Hulk's Obligation can't be removed either. Thematic to the heroes that "have to live" with their obligation.
Thanks for letting me know! I was curious and definitely forgot about Hulk's.
You can include welcome aboard to give the cost reduction to a different player
Yes, I think this is a key aspect of the card -- it works with all players. Very good multiplayer card, not as quite as good for solo play.
Nice review, but I feel like you forgot that you can use the free wild resource with Grasping Tendrils during the villain phase, so you don't have to hope Strength comes out with it, and you only lose the one other card. A double stun for two cost is pretty good.
I'll add that I got a lot of use out of Jarnbjorn when playing him on aggression. Combo'd well with Fussilade since Jarnbjorn doesn't need to exhaust to use it, and the free wild resource turned into the extra fist I needed to do that two bonus damage.
I really like your pack reviews man, helps with purchase decisions soo much! Please keep it up!
I will never not start a game with venom without saying “I wouldn’t want to fight me neither”
Very excited to try out Venom soon. Just moved so I haven't had time to unbox and set them up, but he definitely seems like he will be right up my alley
Excited for Venom. He seems versatile enough to work with all aspects but I'm liking the justice card sonic rifle paired with his hero cards. Project rebirth is awesome and side holster looks like a good one to include for other weapon built heroes. Not so impressed with the allies included in this pack but overall another must-buy hero. Cheers.
Yeah, I'm also very happy with Venom so far. It's not my favourite hero of the new ones that have released this year, but I'm definitely having a great time with him.
Locked and loaded also allows you to chase specific resources to allow you to qualify the bonuses as long as you built your deck accordingly.
Much like using Ironman's other boot to go aerial every round.
Yeah a great point! Definitely an easy way to grab the resource you need if you're in a bind.
I may be mistaken but I haven’t seen anyone refer to chump-support/chump-upgrades. I’ve been in circumstances where an encounter card causes me to have to discard one of the goodies I’ve worked so hard to get on the board. Helicarrier after just one use as a recent example. Crew Quarters is cheap, it does a little thing but it also protects more expensive things from hitting the discard pile.
Yeah, that's actually a really good point. If you're expecting to have to discard a support from play with a hero who relies on them a lot, Crew Quarters is an excellent target for that!
Not a huge fan of Fusillade with Venom because you are losing the ability of that weapon. It is okay with Rocket, but it really is best with weapons that don't exhaust like Jarnbjorn or drax's knives.
Welcome aboard is essentially a double resource card only for allies. If you have a lot of allies and a bunch of them are basic, then yeah, it is a solid card instead of Power of Leadership. The MP uses are cool too.
Shake it off is amazing with Drax.
Overall, Venom is a very powerful and extremely versatile hero.
Yeah I hear what you're saying and it's a good point. I think what Fusillade does allow for with Venom is if you're in a situation where Multi-Gun's damage isn't enough, you can essentially up it to 5 for a turn to accomplish something you otherwise wouldn't be able to with it. But there are definitely other heroes that are better targets for including it!
Welcome aboard is similar to power of leadership/us all, except its limited to allies. The nice part is that it can be used for allies of any aspect, so in solo that means your basic and leadership. It is nice for a guardian tribal deck because all the guardian allies outside of star-lord are basic and expensive. It also works in multiplayer as you can help your teammates get allies for cheaper as well. There seems to be an effort recently to allow leadership more options to be support (regroup and welcome aboard) rather than the hardcarry. Is it really strong? no but I think it's good enough to include and encourage cooperation and leadership to offer support playstyles.
Yeah, I was about to comment that Welcome Aboard seems best in multi-player to let another player get the full 2 cost discount, especially if you would've had a leftover card in your hand anyway, which happens relatively often
@@justinvamp15 Good points. Ally discounts are also pretty impactful as they negate some of the negative tempo on a lot of the 3 health + allies that don't want to chump block by allowing the player another card that turn to deal with problems.
"You're always struggling for control."
Unless you're fighting Kang or the Wrecking Crew, than you're cool.
I don't know a lot about Jack Flag. I vaguely remember Starlord rescuing him from somewhere he was being imprisoned, back before the Guardians morphed into their MCU versions, and Jack joining the Guardians and being grumpy about having to deal with 'cosmic stuff.'
He was imprisoned in the negative zone. If I'm remembering right, that was in the DnA Guardians run.
I'm only at Grasping Tentacles, so maybe you address this, but...: I LOVE Grasping Tentacles. If you have Spidersense, you get to draw a card, then cancel the villains attack. Venoms resource ability works every Phase so you only need one fist from hand to stun the villain. So you draw a card, cancel the attack, and stun the villain for a cost of 2 cards from hand and 1 HP. Which sets you up to stay in Hero form longer and dish damage.
Also, if you can get a helicarrier out his cards only require the Hero resource for the bonus effect as the entire cost has then been paid for via the required resource type.
Can't wait to try Agent Venom out!
Really like the set up. Audio and ability to see the cards are great. Very professional and appreciate the explanations. New sub! Also other than War Machine this Hero is the one I was most excited about. Looks so fun and can't wait for it to arrive. Will be using Justice Venom as my main until War Machine comes out.
Thanks a lot for kind words, glad you're enjoying the way we do our videos! Venom is definitely a lot of fun so far!
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Thanks so much, Kent. That means a lot!
I enjoy your reviews, by the way. Thank you for making these!
Thanks Henry, my pleasure!
Absolutely loving your channel! Quality professional content. Love it.
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Something about Crew Quarters that’s easily missed (by solo players) is that it’s utility increases outside of solo. In a four player game, you would play this on the hero who is most likely to be in alter-ego form, and that player can opportunistically heal any other player who is also in alter ego without either player having to Recover.
That was my first thought when I saw it. Think itll work nicely for Ms Marvel or maybe Rocket.
Excellent point! Thanks for sharing that.
I like Welcome Aboard as another double resource card, albeit a very limited one. I hope we see more cost reducers like this in the future to support very specific deck types, I.e. an aggression card that reduces the next weapon played.
Remember Thor and how much he sucked initially? I recently made a Thor aggression deck over the weekend and was able to defeat red skull with the cards that have recently come out. These newer cards have really helped older heroes.
Yeah Thor is one I've been meaning to go back to after seeing all these new cards that have come out. I'm really enjoying how new releases are also reinvigorating older ones.
@@AllYouCanBoard definitely 👌🏼
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I love to get a helicarrier out with Venom. when you reduce the cost of those 2 cost cards to 1 it makes it easy to hit the resource requirements.
I pick mine up today. Can't wait to get him on the table. I see some really cool two player combos in his deck. I'll have to see if they pan out.
After watching Black Widow, I love how making an entrance goes perfect in her deck.
She's such a poser
Haha, I thought the same thing!
I always look forward to your analysis, great work as always! I actually stopped the video halfway through to go buy Venom and then came back and watched the rest heh.
Haha, maybe FFG should give me some commission for that purchase! :P Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it!
@@AllYouCanBoard hah yes, definitely. I’m glad I picked him up, Venom is really fun, love being able to confuse, do some damage because the villain is confused, then flip to alter-ego with basically no consequence. You weren’t kidding about how good Project Rebirth 2.0 is, the games where I found it immediately were so much easier compared to the ones where I didn’t.
Ordered Venom + the Folded Space insert. Can't wait to play!
I’m a little surprised he doesn’t have ammo counters. Essentially he has 3 weapon slots and 3 weapons, that just sit there, leaving him 1 slot from the Side Holster card in which he can “cycle” weapons with counters. Of course, I haven’t played him yet, but that doesn’t seem to call for a ton of weapon cards,?which was what I imagined for a 4 weapon slots hero. I’ll keep an open mind, but at this point Rocket seems like way more fun 🤔 Great video as always! 👍
Yeah I see what you're saying. From a deck-building perspective, you don't necessarily want to include a whole ton of weapons because they're going to reach a bottleneck where you can't play anymore without discarding one. But I do like how this makes him unique and different from other weapon users too. Thanks for watching!
Flash Thompson AE: Not very "Flashy"
Grasping Tendrils: use it to keep a firm "Grasp" on the board
THE PUNS
Haha I wish I could say they were intentional, but I definitely didn't even realize at the time!
"Welcome Aboard" is basically another way to play Power of Leadership, but also with any grey allies or allies pulled from other decks using "Make the Call." That said, I don't know that I'd bother with it except for very specifically built decks for specific encounters with specific players using specific aspects.
"Shake it Off" is gonna go great with "Bait and Switch."
I think you might be undervaluing Welcome Aboard just a little bit. It is more flexible than the Power of Leadership as it applies to all basic Allies.
The end effect is that it's basically another double resource that just pays for allies, not something a sneeze at.
My son got shadow of the past and then gang up on turn one as Venom and it was game over already.
I'm really enjoying Venom he's good fun.
WRT Grasping Tendrils Like you I've found you generally only need 1 Strength Resource from a card as you can use Symbiotoc Bond to generate a * Resource. 1 Damage and 1 Resource to Stun the Villain or Minion is pretty good value IMO.
Agreed, I rarely had a situation where I couldn't take the 1 damage out of fear for it putting me in a tough spot. Generally was able to do it.
"Welcome aboard" plus Starlord's ability can put in a 5 cost minion in play without using any other card. Granted you get an encounter card, but you want them with Starlord.
But so can power of leadership. Really this is just POL number 3 and 4 with limitations on use and a worse resource. It can be used multiplayer though to trade resources with interest essentially. No idea if that's useful as I don't play MP.
all that TECH for Ironman hmm
Jack Flag was a hero that got sent to the negative zone prison during civil war. Then he joined the guardians and trying find a way home to earth. He hates cosmic stuff.
Thanks so much for letting me know!
I have not got him yet as I've been playing other things but I was drooling over the wild resource from the start :) . Jack Flag might be too slow like Luke Cage is. Helicarrier plus Symbiotic Bond pays for any of the events that care about resources. Confused is great, it's good Concussive Blow has some competition. Alter ego is better than Hero most of the time, except for the threat on the main scheme and confused sorts that out (mostly). Guardians of Justice can get a LOT of confuse effects now. I plan to try a protection never defend build to try to double dip on symbiotes and to heal that damage :)
My ears perked up at the protection build for Venom! I'm always interested in protection builds for heroes as I enjoy that aspect a lot. Definitely something i'm going to be playing around with myself too.
Quality video is always.
Thank you very much!
Something cool about crew quarters is you can use it on another player as long as they’re also in alter ego.
You still need to be in alter ego though
@@TracerQQ right, ergo the “also.”
@@Atlasfilms08 foiled again ;)
Good stuff as always, thanks.
Our pleasure, William!
It seemed you were comparing Savage Attack to 3-cost hero attacks (Pinpoint Strike, Swinging Web Kick) instead of 2-cost attacks (Root Stomp, Venom Blast). Savage Attack is on par with other 2-cost heroic attack events, albeit with a less exciting kicker than some.
Yeah, you're definitely right. I guess I've just been spoiled by some of the big damage dealers of late! But that's not to say that the cost-to-damage ratio of Venom's isn't completely fair.
Yeah, he definitely doesn’t have those huge number cards. But instead of a 3-cost, 8 damage event he gets Run and Gun, which adds up to a lot of damage and thwart after he’s built. It seems he’s all about flexibility and versatility at the expense of big swings.
Wouldn't it be better to have a power of leadership than the welcome aboard since it has more utility ? What would be the reasoning to have this card in your deck?
Side Holster on Punisher
5:10 wait you can use wild resources that way? I remember reading a bgg post saying that wild resources cant be used that way and really thinking it sucked that they couldnt, hope i havent been playing wrong
Wild resources can be used as any of the other 3. The only exception is if a card requires a specific “printed” resource
Hope we get a Knull/Symbiote expansion
Damn, now Im back at missing 5 Hero Packs...
It can be hard to keep up, they release so fast it seems!
Venom has been absolutely tearing up Expert for me with little to no issue. He is definitely joining the ranks of Doctor Strange and Captain America
That's awesome to hear, Noah! I'm excited to continue to play him and see if I have similar feelings over time.
So... you are telling me the Alter Ego form is not that "Flashy"?
Haha! That's exactly right ;)
Sucks that this is the version of Venom we get. :(