Drive Dad's Car! Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit (bit posh for my dad!)
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Back in the 90s someone I knew bought an old blue Silver Cloud for a few thousand quid, lots of miles but mechanically and cosmetically fairly sound. He'd been an engineer and nearing retirement and wanted a hobby and that was it. He told me there were lots of cheap service parts for the car and servicing it for him was quite simple. It was stored in a unit and kept clean and polished to a high standard. It was very reliable. The car initially paid for it's keep by doing weddings and the occasional chauffeuring trips, often for businessmen from and to airports, and eventually became a nice regular little earner. Sadly, plans to have touring holidays in it were scuppered by his wife who thought it was far too ostentatious!
Hi , Was it a Cloud 1 ? They were the most reliable.
Too ostentatious, or not as posh as an Austin Station Wagon?
There's a classic story in our family about the Rolls.
My great uncle was an eccentric gentleman. He was a successful farmer who was born deaf. He never married and his passions were photography (he had his own dark room) and cars (owning various sporty Fiats, Studebakers, and other cars not usually found in rural southern New Zealand.)
Anyway, about 1980 he died suddenly, and my grandparents inherit his estate. A couple of weeks after his passing, a letter from the Rolls Royce company arrived addressed to him. It was as follows:
"Dear Mr. Cameron,
We have received your order for your new Rolls Royce. We estimate that delivery will be in approximately six months time."
My grandparents cancelled the order, much to the disappointment of my father, who to this day wishes he could have had the chance to drive about the countryside in the family Rolls.
Great story. I bet RR were just a bit disappointed too.
Too bad he didn't get a chance to drive / be driven in this beautiful car.
Too bad the car was not delivered.
Once your grandmother had experienced riding in the back seat, she most probably would have changed her mind about cancelling the order.
In the early 1990's I frequently chauffeured a 1981 Silver Shadow II. I never got/took took the opportunity, though, to chauffeur my mother in it, which I regret to this day. I actually wonder why, because I did come to see her driving it. Have a picture of it in my parents' carport.
These Rolls Royce cars are aging like fine wine now in this style. Makes a fine addition to the collection and this review adds to the reasons why this was a great car for Rolls Royce.
Ian I don't think it is possible to go on to much about wipers. I admire your dedication continuing with the review after the wiper disappointment. An ordinary person would have walked away.
Well done sir, well done.
Agree,d. If anything, wipers should be discussed and analyzed even more.
I've always been aware of wiper performance, squeaky blades, juddering and not clearing water properly drive me mad. But Ian has brought it to a different level... I'm now looking for triangles of doom and corners of disappointment and the saddest part is, I enjoy it.
The triangle of doom would be a deal breaker for me. (However I should add that in 1989, I was a dishwasher, so that could have impacted financing). 😉
My son had a 1974 Silver Shadow for quite a few years, I was allowed to borrow it but rarely did (usually when the fuel was on the low side!). Beautiful vehicle to drive, also respect from other drivers was nice. Took it to Lidls a few times to do the weekly shop, raised a few eybrows.
Funny you say that when we see a posh car on YT my dad ALWAYS says "imagine driving up to lidl in one of these ! "
Always loved these. Big difference between these and the Bentley is you drive a Bentley and get driven in the Rolls Royce.
I remember reading once that Bentleys were 'Old Money' e.g. titled folk, landed gentry etc where Rollers were for 'New Money' e.g. Brucie, Tarby, pop stars etc.
Unless Her Majesty, still trying to work out what the mascot on her State Limousine is.
What to expect? A wonderful and special automobile... It is a Rolls Royce. I'd love to drive one of those in my life. Perfection on wheels
Watching these I realize how good Ian’s delivery is. The production value may be low but the performance is top class. Sometimes I can catch a bit of William Wollard of whom I was a big fan. I’ve watched a few other channels recently and Ian really has worked on this. It is not easy.
I stopped in a Hotel in Durham a couple of months ago and the owner gave me the keys to his RR Shadow 2 with carbs. It took me a while to find the handbrake release. I did about 10 miles in it on the country roads. Well what a wonderful thing. So smooth and quiet and it just floated along. I was very impressed and so were my passengers.
Crikey that was nice of him.
I did my apprenticeship at the Rolls-Royce and Bentley distributors in Melbourne in the 1980's, this brought back a lot of memories.
What an absolutely glorious car. As a child should my father see a Rolls Royce approaching in his rear view mirror he’d wind down the window and listen as it wafted past. Lovely.
This reminds me of when my Granddad parked his new Morris Ital next to one of these years ago. Both the same colour, and he was convinced his Ital was just a more cost effective Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit. He wouldn't stop going on about it. In his eyes the Ital was just missing that iconic grill and flying lady. They do share a similar shape. For that Christmas we got him a hood ornament for his Ital.
Great video Ian. Thought you might have driven the Reliant Robin, so you can compare it to TWC? What about tracking down as many three wheelers as possible? Tricky, but fascinating.
Very sweet story
Flabbergasted to see your comment, I’ve just posted one that says I thought the colours were “very Morris Ital”!
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To Wayne Warped . My Mum had the Morris Ital, which was simple, but stylish! I'm flabbergasted to hear that Itals were available in THE SAME COLOUR AS THE ALSO LOVELY SILVER SPIRIT! Pray tell what that colour was!
Ah what class... lovely bit of Brandenburg 4. The car's not bad either 😊
Lovely Jubbly video, my father may have driven that car before it was delivered to the dealership, he worked in road test at the factory in Crewe, after being assembled they were taken out of the factory to be tested on roads around Cheshire for any faults to be found and then rectified on return.
Great video and very explanatory.
I enjoy every moment I give my T.L.C.to my Silver Spirit and enjoy the overwhelming love it gives back in return.
Now in my silver years, it will always be with me and eventually is bequeathed to 'The Air Ambulance' in showroom condition.
We work in harmony.
Fantastic review of a Spirit (I), thank you so much for candid comments. Nearing my 60s now and house finally paid off, I am gingerly considering the purchase of either a Shadow II or a Spirit (I). I have no interest in speed or handling, just elegance, comfort, presence and "waft". I have loved RR all my life and dreamed of one, never having ever driven one. As a guest of Peninsular Hotel Hong Kong in the 80s, I did ride in one which was such a treat. Your video has encouraged me further, thank you!
Right! That's it! The multipla has to go to replaced by the perfect family wagon. A 1989 Rolls Royce. (Convert it to electric😁)
I find it impossible not to see a RR or Bentley and smile. You know you're looking at something that is extra - ordinary. That is world class. That is special.
As always a brilliant video Ian. Thanks.
“Adequate” means we don’t talk about such frivolous matters Sir.
@Alfred Wedmore Was he an engineer by any chance?
@Alfred Wedmore Thanks!
A Proper British Motor Car! Absolutely wonderful. I was lucky enough to drive one of these some years ago after fitting new spheres to the rear suspension (that was fun I don't think!). Your description of "wafting" is spot on! I used to MOT test another example that the owner maintained himself- very well I might add. He always wanted a Rolls-Royce and that was the only way he could afford one! We can but dream....
„It gaines pace in such a relaxing manner“
What a lovely and spot on description ❤️
I had the rare opportunity to waft about in a RR Silver Cloud V8 and its Bentley S1 counterpart with the silky 6cyl engine.
These cars educate everyone behind their wheel to a considerate, decent driver.
Nothing like a classic Rolls-Royce! Each is handcrafted.
I think it might take the hides of ten cows. Connelly leather, Wilton wool carpeting. The epitome of luxury. Today's Rolls-Royce, and Bentley, cannot hold a candle to this!
I don't think a well looked after example is any more expensive than any other classic!
I must say you do look like Sir HubNut driving this!
When I was a kid, I worked in a garage and got the job of washing and polishing a 1934 Rolls-Royce belonging to a retired Major, a rather eccentric gent who always wore jodphurs and a riding jacket. The job took a while, but then I was going to drive my first Rolls out to the car park. I jumped into the car, to discover that the right hand side gear lever shot straight up the leg of my trousers. Getting it up the leg was easy, but I found that the only way to get it out was to wriggle out of my pants and end up standing in the workshop in my socks and Y-fronts! As the car was parked opposite the office girls' window it was a predicament no 17 year old wants to be in. As I stood there, with the rest of the staff howling with laughter, the Major turned up. He took in the situation at a glance and said, "Ah! You have discovered why I always wear Jodhpurs"!
I'd describe this one as being finished in triple worthers original! I was luck enough to drive these and Bentleys in my early 20's as the Jaguar/Land Rover/Saab dealership I worked at were RR/Bentley service/used dealers, I'd often get into work before anyone else just to take them out for an "extended road test" they are magnificent and lovely old things.
I used to work in the Parts Department of a Rolls Royce Dealer. Met quite a few owners, all the A listers in my city. We had a box of spare keys for every vehicle ever sold at the Dealership. Unlabelled of course. RR also have an excellent leather care product, part number RH503, which keeps all leather soft and supple. Heavy on the lanolin.
A 90's Rolls Royce. It's interesting, it has lots of character, old badly treated ones are remarkably cheap. It's ruinously expensive to run. Home tinkering is likely to end in tears. It's very spacious and magnificently wafty. Anyone thinking of running one as a daily would be bonkers. The perfect HubNut family car?
There was one on a local car lot earlier this year. It was £8k, then 5 and I'm reliably informed it went for under 3..
Next to it was a Maxi and on the other side a shonky old hand painted tractor.
"It is fair to say this is not vegan-friendly" Brilliant.
I shopped for 2+ years for an '89 Spur . Ended up buying an '89 Turbo R , very much to my pleasures . Had it for 3 1/2 years now . Shopping for a RR now for next Spring purchase .
Always loved the silver shadow my favourite rolls Royce
Great video of the ultimate waft factor.. One must for a RR test drive is the view out over the bonnet with the Spirit of Ecstasy surveying the way out front.
A Citroen CX Prestige has more rear comfort and head and leg room than the Spirit. In addition to the Prestige having rear footrests and headrests you get sun visors for the side windows plus sun blinds for the rear window... And the concave rear window is self cleaning via aerodynamics...
How about a test of a Silver Spirit versus a Citroen C6 for the ultimate WAFT Factor?
Love a R.R. had the pleasure of being taken for a drive in a 70's model my feet disappeared in the carpet & watching the bonnet leap up under hard acceleration was impressive & it was so quiet.
Two bosses who had RR, one a knob and the other a Pub Landlord.. says it all!
The 3 speed autoboxes are GM THM400's known as Hydramatic's and the 4 speed autoboxes in later Silver Spirits are GM 4L80E's.
Good day sir. Feel free to discuss articulated wipers and wipers in general, as much as you like. I freely admit to loving the wiper nuances of various models. Our Roller could use some “wiper blade engineering” (removing or reducing the triangle of death as much as possible, by resizing the wiper blades) asap. I had a 700R4 transmission in a GMC truck in 1992. Its only failure was due to driver ignorance. Thanks for the ride, without a single Grey Poupon mustard joke. Cheers.
The way I look at these older luxury cars is that the technology they pioneered, makes it's way into the average cars, so it's nice to see why the technology we take for granted on our newer average cars came from
Absolutely, and yes Citroën really are innovative, almost all cars have cornering lights now, self leveling suspension all be it not the same as the hydropneumatic suspension and power assisted steering all things that are pretty standard on a lot of cars now.
Gorgeous 😍 cars, I've a silver shadow and a silver spirit. Both truly magnificent 👏
They had the LWB version of this on Gas Monkey, years ago. I was crying with laughter as they tried to figure out the Citroën brakes and suspension.
I say, what a splendid motor car sir. Not too sure about the Granada Ghia roof though. I was viviting a small village in Hertfordshire the UK many years ago and watched with much amusement as a lady of advancing years was escorted from a small delicatessen to her Rolls Royce by her uniformed chauffeur. He opened the rear door for her. When she was correctly seated he then drove the car for all of 20 yerds before entering a driveway to a very nice edwardian house. He then opened the rear door to allow said lady to exit the car before then opening the front door of the house for her to return home. Wonderful.
I came close to buying a Jag XJ12-S3 that had such a 'ghia' vinyl-top. All the rage back then. It didn't bother me tbh.
However the rust/rot underneath said vinyl..., that was the deal breaker for me.
To the manor born .
I believe my uncle had a Silver Shadow in the 80s and 90s he was meticulous of cleaning it. He was also a bit of a joker and insisted on driving me to school one time. I was to sit in the back and he wore like a chauffeur hat making sure to drive right up that everyone might see.. 🙃
What a beautiful car ! I Like the design !
These really are a lot of car! I agree the styling might not be to everyone's taste but I think the Bentley versions with the four round headlights do look a lot better, and the more aggressive front spoiler/air dam on the later Turbo R cars improves the look further. Running costs are quite steep, I've spent a few grand in the 6 months I've had my Turbo R on various things, mostly things that didn't need doing right away but best to get done. So far it's been very reliable. And as you say, the handling really isn't what you'd expect from a car that size. Fuel wise I get around 20 mpg on the motorway and about 12 round town.
It's a shame this one doesn't have the lambswool over rugs, those really are something else. And I'm glad you mentioned the smell, it really is something special in these cars. And even in the Turbo R the way it can serenely build speed is wonderful, though with the Turbo R you have the less serene option if you want it.
When I was working at a privately owned garage in the early 90's, as the service manager, parts manager and car salesman along with other hats I wore. I traded in a 1973 silver shadow with a black vinyl roof. It was an ex-wedding car and had that many miles on it, Neil Armstrongs space suite was in the boot. I gave a paltry £1000 in part exchange knowing how these things rot. As it turned out, it was surprisingly solid. Anyhow on the test drive, it wallowed so badly I thought that the shock absorbers were shot (turns out they weren't!) We ended up putting it on ebay as it would have looked a bit out of place lined up with punto's, fiesta's and saxo's. Needless to say we took a £200 loss on it as it was taking up far too much space. What did the customer trade it in for? A saxo VTS for his son. Cannot imagine what the insurance on one of those would have been for a 17 year old newly qualified driver.
Lot of fun and a great presentation, nice to waft around in the bigger boats so to speak once in a while, nothing wrong with that at all. Thank you very much, HubNut in a Roller👍
A bit of a win-win. You pay to get to drive some of these classics, the money goes to upkeep, and the cars get a bit of exercise, which they need.
My Wife & I rode in a Rolls Royce when we got married lovely car.
Ah yes, an old(er) Rolls Royce, lovely indeed! One of few expensive cars that do interest me. I'd even go as far as to say, i'd like to own one someday. Not the fancy modern stuff, no. An old one, yes please! I've never driven one. I'd hope to, one day. However, that may strengthen the urge to buy one... Would look nice on my driveway, though, between my '02 Mondeo and my '05 Mercedes 320 CDI Estate... lol
Thanks for doing that so enjoyed it much appreciated
Always loved Rollers, even the mid 20's one a company I drove for had, one definitely had to know how to double clutch and need good arm muscles. Forget who the coachbuilder was but it was not of a modern design even for the 20's, Chauffeur and attendant/footman sitting in the open. If left parked unattended the Spirit of Ecstacy radiator cap had to be taken with one to prevent it being stolen, it weighed over a pound, Gold plated Bronze, and was 6" tall.
With those valve covers, the engine look like an RR Merlin aircraft engine.
I seem to remember hearing 24 cows went into the leather for these cars and 13 sheep sheared for the carpet. I could be wrong though.
I would've guessed about 7... fields worth (of cows for the leather)! 😁
An old mate of mine had one of these in the 80's. What a wonderful it was...
Lindybeige !!!!!!!! Perfectly engineered not over engineered.
Looks like the ultimate wafting machine. I'd feel like I'd have to do a royal wave driving that. Lovely car. Engine sound is gorgeous! Hope those peasants kept out the way 🤣
when I first saw a rolls Royce, I said to my self that one day I will own one of these. and lots of years later, I am still waiting. :-(
What a beautiful car love it Brilliant video Ian 👍
Beautiful car, that’s on my bucket list
I have the gear lever there in my 2019 Mercedes. At that point the comparison ends. I love Rolls Royce’s. My Dad had a Doctor friend in the 60’s and 70’s who bought a new old Rolls Royce every year. Never lost a penny on them, never spent a penny on servicing just bought a just serviced one and sold it before the next service was due. Not sure you could do that now.
A line from a Raymond Chandler novel (can never remember which) has always stayed with me, a Roll-Royces passes by _"... with the sound of falling leaves."_
Nice hubnut, I absolutely love them 😍
Oh yes mr Hubnot. Driving a real rolls just great to see.
Love that car. I’m sure ownerships is terrifying
Used to see these on test from the factory when I lived near Crewe; they would be on road test prior to finishing. Remember seeing one take off from a junction with indecent haste; then a couple of miles up the road it would be stopped and an engineer climbed out of the boot, having been listening for rattles…. Absolute quality control.
Dream showbiz Thomas Edward Motor right there! But I’d have early silver spirit just from looks point of view.
Ian, the Bodies for these cars were produced by BL/Ausin Rover/Rover in Cowley 'R' Building Oxford
Great video. Interestingly, I noticed years ago when in the Pulborough RR&Bentley dealership in the late 80's, that they did gradually 'sit down' on their haunches if left for a long time - the rear springs are about half the height of the fronts so cannot hold up the rear when the hydraulics aren't pressurised.
Chuffing lovely. Ones ending music was most appropriate.
Thank you. More appropriate than you think, because JS Bach was German, and Rolls-Royce is now owned by BMW...
Dad has a very nice taste if you ask me, that interior... 💞💕♥️💘
Wonderful video. Hope to visit the Great British Car Journey some time and try the Silver Spirit myself. All that was missing on the soundtrack here was Miss HubNut saying, "Home please, Parker" and Ian (HubNut) replying "Very good, m'lady"... But you'd have needed a uniform and proper cap!
Classy video Ian!
Any chance of that Imp hiding in the background getting a video? It'd be good to get some more Rootes Group action one day, and you did like that Sunbeam...
Steph did a video on that one, so it should be on idriveaclassic at some point.
That is a very comfortable car. It is a nice size too. A large cat was the 1966 Cadillac Sedan De Ville I used to drive. It was a land yacht.
Very nice..... I would love an early 70s Silver Shadow as I do enjoy a little wafting every now and then.
My late Uncle worked in the car bond at Crewe for years. I did my YTS at the body and paint shops there. Absolutely beautiful motors. My uncle took me out in a Bentley Turbo R, when he put his foot down I remember being pinned to the seat and the scenery rushing by a bit too quickly.
“Pure waft, splendid !” 👍
The Triumph Stag also has a pentograph wiper on the drivers side. Nice car, it does look a cross between a Mark 1 and Mark 2 Ford Granada.
In the 1991 movie The Taking Of Beverley Hills they trashed one of these and used it as any other getaway car. It was quite amusing.
My brother picked me up from the airport in one he'd picked up cheap (a couple of thousand pounds) a few days before. I'd driven to the airport in Sydney in a Mazda 323 hire car with wife young kids and associated luggage and push chairs etcetera in the boot but dispite the enormous size and weight of the Roller the same luggage wouldn't fit in the boot and quite a bit had to be stowed in the cabin with us. The boot on the Roller is quite large but very shallow
Ideal Multiplayer replacement! 🏴
Another great video has always Ian and miss hubnut and hublets and hubmutts
Another Great Video Ian, and totally agree you do have to step out and sample something a little bit different. I can imagine my wife's face if I brought this home and asked her if she wanted to drive it! Shes not too confident about driving my 75 and parking not in our drive! Not sure this would actually fit in my drive!
When Rolls-Royces stopped looking like total luxury and more like posh saloons and designs made more use of a ruler. Remember reading my Daily Express motor show yearbook and seeing the horror that was the top-of-the-range Camargue!
The Camargue is surprisingly ugly especially the front part.
@Paul Fellows Savile never owned one. He had the Corniche which was his last Rolls.
Really? I find the Camargue to be decidedly less stuffy and actually showing a degree of personality.
@@jakekaywell5972 Certainly an expensive pot of Marmite!
@Paul Fellows to me the grille is not great but okay. I think there is too much bodywork under the headlights. Also to much metal above the wheel arches and the roof line is also too high. Some crazy Murican should chop and channel the thing, it may look better then.
The music over the ending genuinely made me giggle 😂 lovely stuff as always. For me you're practically an essential service at the minute keeping me entertained while dealing with night time feeds and nappies! Much obliged, btw for donations do you prefer Patreon or RUclips membership? Sure you've said before but damned if I can remember 🤔
Excellent
Hubnut owning a Rolls Royce would be amazing! You've clearly caught the waft bug from Betty!
I remember a business acquaintance of my father's trading in a used Rolls Royce Silver Spirit for a then new Lexus LS 400 back in the day. Seemed odd at the time, but with the hindsight that comes with adulthood, I think I'd prefer the build quality, reliability and subtlety of the Lexus over the Rolls now too. The Rolls is rather glorious though.
It IS about handling - the smooth ride !
TWC, RR........ Love this channel.
The wipers _should_ activate with the washer function, but the control module under the dash eventually malfunctions, and it’s not easy to source another good one. I’ve got the same year Spur, it’s the one issue I’ve never bothered addressing.
As far as running costs go, it’s no worse than any mid-range SUV or Mercedes. The trick is to make sure you properly drive these cars regularly. If you park them for six months or a year, that’s when you start to get issues.
The thickness of the drivers seat lmao its like an Armchair its so thick
Back in the 1970s my sister's horse escaped and a chap with a Rolls Royce cornered it quite some miles away. The horse left some serious dents on the Rolls Royce.....and the owner said " my fault, I shouldn't have tried to corner the horse". My dad still paid for the bodywork repairs, but the guy was so nice about the whole thing. We think the horse had been stung by a bee or wasp.
A friend of my father’s had one of these and when people asked him what he drove, he said “I drive an Austin”. “Oh, an Austin what?” “An Austin Tatious”. And it certainly was Ostentatious!
i had a talbot samba passed down from my mum as my second car my first was a horizon. The samba was a 1.1 ls and must have had a rare one as it didnt let me down much. but unfortunately the rot got it and was beyond economical repair. Had many good times in that car.
Maybe it didn't let you down because it was essentially a rebadged Peugeot 104.
@@jfv65 that's a coincidence u mentioned a 104 my mum had one of those to mid 80's. Great memories in that car to.
I think you've just solved your family transport quandary.
More space than you can shake a certain type of stick at and bits of Citroën thrown in.
Just hope you've got very very deep pockets 😂
That is a magnificent motor vehicle
Really like this channel as you review interesting cars and often the more affordable ones. And without the boorish snobbishness many car reviewer have.
Now you are looking to replace the Multipla. And this is a very family friendly car. Get yourself a roller
Think I showed you my Father In Laws 1985 Silver Spirit in Masons black at the Manchester Late Brake show.
His is on those big SU carbs but still has a impressive get up and go. Will check out the wiper pattern at Christmas as I'm down there
Beautiful car 👍👍👍👍
The weird bit behind the rear armrest should be behind a pad, i think it oulls the pad down to cover up the hinges. Building up a shadow 2 with my Dad and that arm rest bit is a right pain.
"Adequate" power translation: our finances are so dire that we cannot afford to fix the broken dynamometer in the engineering office. Just know that we threw the same engineers from the Merlin the Griffon on creating the engine in your magnificent Land Yacht 😉
I have only driven a left hand driven 1981 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow II.
Yet it takes me aback that the parking brake in a right hand is positioned next to the drive shaft tunnel.
I have been chauffeured in a Silver Spirit, but - honestly - my attention at that point was elsewhere.