Ep 1 DIY Garage Attic Lift System and Garage Bar in my Dream Garage! - Episode 1 | ABraz House |
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Episode 1 of 2 in my Dream Garage! Looking for garage makeover ideas? This is one of the more detailed DIY Garage Attic Lifts you will find on RUclips! You can't beat the price of this DIY attic elevator! This premium attic storage lift will also double as a table or bar in your garage or man cave! Try your own $400 DIY garage lift instead of the pricey Versa Lift!
0:00 Start
01:24 Ch 1 - Preparing the Hoist
03:07 Ch 2 - Platform Construction
07:31 Ch 3 - Laminate Beam Construction
08:28 Ch 4 - Beam Hardware and Test
18:26 Ch 5 - Attic Prep Construction
21:46 Ch 6 - Beam Placement and Adjustments
EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS LIST FOR THE ABRAZ HOUSE PREMIUM ATTIC LIFT/BAR
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EQUIPMENT FOR ATTIC LIFT
Mechanical Parts
1 - Partsam 880 lbs Lift Electric Hoist Crane Remote Control Power System, Zinc-Plated Steel Wire Overhead Crane Garage Ceiling Pulley Winch w/Straps (w/Emergency Stop Switch)
VERY IMPORTANT: Note: This hoist has a slightly larger shaft. It requires an 18mm socket.
(I used the Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Automotive 440lb version, but would recommend this Partsam 880lb because the company has an option for a wireless remote and it also has high Amazon ratings)
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You will need 4 long bolts to attach the hoist motor housing to your beam, but I am unsure what size it was. I took one of the original small bolts with me to the hardware store to match up. I just recall it was an odd metric.
1 - 5/8 inch impact socket to weld to the Torsion Spring Shaft
If you use the Partsam 880 lbs Lift Electric Hoist VERY IMPORTANT: Note: This hoist has a slightly larger shaft. It requires an 18mm socket.
1 Set - Vestil D-CNVR-250 Dolly Converter, 250 lbs Capacity, 12" Width x 37" Height
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Garage Door Parts- I recommend you speak with your local Overhead Garage Dealer. They should be able to provide you commercial parts for this
1 - Steel Torsion Spring Shaft
3 - Bearing Plates
2 - Cable Drums
2 - Cables (according to the length you need) Just make sure the cable drum can accomodate your length.
2- Universal Clevis Pins, 3/16 x 2 (for safety measure) Is inserted through cable drum and torsion shaft
2- Hitch pins for Clevis pins
MATERIALS FOR ATTIC LIFT PLATFORM and BEAM-
Not counting assorted screws, glue, paint and your choice of laminate for the top.
2- 4x8 sheets of birch plywood (cut according to needs)
My attic lift was designed for a 22"x67" opening and this was enough for the lift and for the shelf in the attic.
8- 2x4x8 - This was enough for the lift platform and frame in the attic to hold the beam
3- 2x6x8 - For the laminated beam and the attic shelving
3- 2 packs of springs for the lift platform base board- Prime-Line Products SP 9617 Extension Spring with 0.105-Inch Diameter, 3/4-Inch x 2-5/8-Inch,(Pack of 2) These are the stronger version that I added 4 of. I believe 6 of this type would work better that the 6 I originally used.
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I originally used 6 of the Prime-Line SP 9610 Spring, Extension, 5/8-Inch by 2-1/2-Inch - .072 Diameter, then added 4 of the above because they weren't strong enough.
6 - Bolts to attach Dolly Converter handles to platform - (6 Sets) 3/8-16x2-1/2" Stainless Steel Hex Head Screws Bolts, Nuts, Flat & Lock Washers, 18-8 (304) S/S, Fully Threaded by Bolt
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12 - Eye Bolts, 3/16 x 2-Inch,10 - to attach base to attic lift platform
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4- Koch Industries 143161 Wire Rope Clip and Thimble Pack with 3-Clips, 3/16-Inch, Zinc for attaching wire to lift handles
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2 - 3/8" X 4" Marine Grade 316 Stainless Steel Eye Bolt, Working Load Limit 1000 lb
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2 - Stainless Steel 316 Snap Hook Spring Loaded Link Carabiner Connector Marine Grade
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For Aluminum Guides-
4- 1-Inch by 1/16-Inch by 48-Inch Flat Bar Mill
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For Aluminum Edges -
2- 3/4-Inch by 3/4-Inch by 1/16-Inch by 72-Inch Angle Equal Leg Anodized
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For Diamond Plate -
I used some leftover from a previous project, but you can find what I used at diamondlifegear.com/
I use the Platinum Ice™ Anodized Aluminum Diamond Plate, Satin Silver
Thickness: 0.045" thick (3/64", 17GA)
For Bar Legs -
8 - 1" Floor Flange Pipe Decor Cast Iron Black Pipe Floor Threaded Pipe Fitting
4 - 36" 1" Black pipe
I recommend you buy these from HomeDepot or Lowes (or your local hardware store) so that they can thread the pipe if you need to adjust
4- Rubber Feet for the bottom of the Black Iron Flanges
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For Platform base (so it can be interchangable with bar legs)
4 - 3/4 Inch Black Pipe Nipple
4 - SoftTouch Rubber Leg Tip (4 Piece), 1", Black
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Хобби
Note: the hoist he recommends in the video notes has a slightly larger shaft. It requires an 18mm socket. 11/16” was too small and 3/4” was too big.
Good info Steven. I will pin this comment for everyone else. Its a little bit of a bummer for me because I was considering upgrading mine. This will make it a more involved project. Thanks again! Sorry it created an issue for you. I also updated the description to include this info.
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This is the best garage. Been looking at videos like this for years. Great editing also.
Wow, thanks! That is a HUGE compliment! I appreciate you viewing Javier! There is more to come!
Most excellent video! Well timed for me, can't say how much I appreciate your input. Looking forward to watching episode 2.
Thank you for this video! I was hoping you'd make one. Your ideas and attention to detail are impeccable and inspirational. 👍👍👊🏽👊🏽🤙🤙🔥🔥🔥
Hey David! Thanks so much! Appreciate the kind words and the like! More to come!
This is exactly what I was looking for. Anxiously awaiting the next video!
Ep 2 will be up tomorrow!
It's up! ruclips.net/video/lCmpSSdbwDE/видео.html
@@ABrazHouse Awesome! Thanks for these videos. I appreciate how detailed you get with your build. Very nice job!
I really liked your video. I bought a harbor freight hoist more than a year ago to add a lift in my garage but never got a chance to do it. I have watched a few videos on diy attic lift. Yours is among the best ones on the topic with lots of detail. I learned a lot by watching your video. Thank you
Glad I could help! Don't be afraid to tackle it!
Real life Rick & Morty with the plumbob
Lol!
This is so very impressive.
Thanks so much for the kind comment!
You have one of the coolest garages I've seen!
Wow, thanks! Appreciate the kind comment! Just checked out your channel, looks great! Mine is pretty young, but I am working on it!
@@ABrazHouse Thanks! I just post projects from time to time nothing serious but your channel has a lot of potential. Keep at it!
Cool build 😎
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time!
Great video? The framing in your attic looks on point. Mine is a mess.
Thanks! Good luck with yours! Hope I inspired you!
The one thing I heard you say you were worried about was how the motor Mounted and now only connected to less than 2 of your 2/6 and with everything mounted on the side of that beam I'm curious if it's rolled over on you yet? The reason I ask is I saw your 90-degree brackets mounted to the same side as the motor my concern is there's nothing connecting the backside of that beam to something solid I also think you might be able to put a plate to that red housing and bolt it in an additional few places back to the top of the beam for an additional connection. If you start noticing cracks in the drywall in your ceiling downstairs I would suggest running a couple 2/6 or 2/8 to the webs of the trusses under that beam and spread load that force over 4 or more trusses. Other than that I think you got a great idea going on here and the ability to get stuff out of the main garage that might only be needed one time a year.
So far I haven't had any issues (roll-over). No cracks yet either. If I do I will certainly visit your suggestion. Thanks for taking the time for the comments an compliments!
Amazing video! However, I noticed the cable drums were about twice the diameter of the stock motor drum. This doubles the torque that the motor has to overcome to lift the platform, reducing its 400lb load capacity to 200lb. The motor is moving more cable/revolution than before, thus increasing the load, but causing it to lift faster.
Thanks for the info BensonBoys! Finally an explanation that makes sense! :) I will pin this comment!
Don't forget to click the "Show More" in the Description to see all the materials I used, along with links!
Baybe use the bobs (or a laser level) to reference the 4 sides of the opening on on the floor and mark the area with tape? Then you could center the platform in that area and adjust everything from there. Just a though. Awesome job.
Yeah, that is another way to do it. Thanks for your input!
You said you could not buy long enough bolts so you coutersunk some bolts. You could have used threaded rod with nuts and washers on both sides.
True! Always a way huh? Thanks!
I sandwiched a piece of 1/8 steel in between my two 2x10's and then turned the beam on the side to get even more strength. You way will work but I wanted even more strength and moved the motor.
Sounds good!
Great project and the quality of your video matches. I love your solution but I have some restrictions, primarily attic clearance, that make my design need to be pretty tight. So a few questions: What is the length of your beam in the attic? How far is the cable drum closest to the motor from the end of the beam? What is the actual size of your platform and the clearances from the inside face of the trusses/wood framing for the opening in the ceiling? Does the gauge of the dolly handles seem to be thick enough to support welding? I have limited clearance in the attic and would need to cut the dolly handles down from 37" high to something that would fit under the bottom of the beam (30" above the attic floor). How close do you think the bottom of the beam could be from the top of the dolly handles? Does the motor stop when it senses the ceiling and the floor or do you have to stop it manually?
Thanks for any help you can provide.
Thanks! Joey, I will measure these for you when I get home tonight and reply again in this thread. The gauge of metal on the dolly handles do seem thick enough for welding to me. In fact, they are welded at the base. They are pretty heavy duty. When I listed them with the Amazon link I noticed the ones that I purchased were not longer available. At that time I was able to locate what seemed to be very near what I ordered, with a slight difference in the rounding of the top of the handles. However, today I went back and it seems that the ones I ordered are now available. Here is the link amzn.to/3bUi3nE .
There are several of positive critiques I want to give after watching this video. Great job on showing items (supplies) and processes. It felt like you were demonstrating from a realistic point of view, using items and supplies anyone could get from the hardware store. You included possible errors or things you might want to change, which was very helpful. You spoke in laymen terms, making it easy to understand and follow. Your voice and tone were easy to listen too, and background noise transitions excellent. The pace of how you presented information, was spot on. Not to0 slow explaining nuances nor too fast missing steps. THANK YOU for making a great tutorial. Had to include an edit as I just now saw the written information you provided when you click on MORE. Awesome and you are the best. Last thing - promise. At the end, you might want to request if ppl appreciate the information, to please use consider using your affiliate links to help generate income support to keep videos like this going....something like that. I read that portion on your about page, which never occurred to me.
Wow! Ami A, thanks for taking the time to leave such a nice review! I appreciate all of the kind comments!
Note: the hoist you recommend to buy that’s linked in your notes has a larger shaft and doesn’t fit the 5/8” socket. It looks like it’s 11/16” or 3/4”. I’ll post the size that fits once I confirm the size
Can you add any information on the Brand/Mfg and/or part numbers of the Steel Torsion Spring Shaft, or Bearing Plates you used? Or provide any extra information on how you welded the socket to the shaft, did you use a hollow shaft or solid. Great Video!
Next time I am up there I will take a look. I bought them from a local overhead garage door and they just pulled from one of their trucks. I don't think they were to accustomed to someone walking in with this type of request. After I explained they were very helpful with providing the parts though. I used a hollow shaft. Everything is still working great!
Cool build. Wish I could have seen it used more once fully functional. Love your garage! I'm curious how you figured out your attic weight load capacity, or if you just guessed on reinforcing the attic with the hangars and brackets spans. Something I would like to figure out. Subscribed!
Thanks! I started out looking at alot of engineering reviews of attics online. Finally I got to the point of just beefing it up as much as I could, then just watching for any signs of weakness. It has handled everything I have thrown at it, and I have seen no stress cracks in the garage ceiling, nor roof issues. I imagine if I ever sell I will not promote it as a storage area and let the next guy take the risks if he/she wants. I plan on being here for many years to come, so for now I LOVE the extra storage space!
@@ABrazHouse Well done. I'm glad it all worked out!!
You'll probably be fine but the time to worry especially is if you get a large standing snow load on the roof, or high winds. Those are the failure modes the trusses were primarily designed against but unfortunately not something you can assess by inspection on a normal day.
You made extra work for yourself with the upper attach with the plywood. All you needed was to build a header like for a door or window. A couple 2x6 or 2x8 pieces.
I know. I tend to over engineer things. :)
Your video was very helpful when building a similar system in my garage. I’m finished most of the construction of framing and platform, but have questions about the garage door parts. I need hubs and brackets about the same as the ones in your video that will hold about 13-14 ft of cable. Can you share dimensions of hub width and diameter as well as cable diameter, shaft material w/gauge, and shaft support bracket bearing center height? Thank you again for your excellent videos. They are all great!
Glad it was helpful! I will see if I can get the details on here for you.
@@ABrazHouse Thank you for the reply! I was able to determine the appropriate hubs and support brackets, shaft, socket, and cable. Our lift is now completed and working very well. Again, thank you for the inspiration and helpful video.
How did you determine that?@@tranquillopa
Thanks for the great video. What was your total cost for this project?
I ballpark it at $500
would have made more sense to make the cradle for your beam distribute load to the outer span of your 2x6 ceiling, so that the load was distributed to 4x 2x6's, instead of just 2
You are probably correct on the distribution factor. I believe that this decision could also be dictated by the anticipated loads that are lifted. In my case they are on average less than 100lbs each.
I’m curious why not just mount the hoist as is and lift the platform from a single cable as opposed to building the garage door axle contraption. Would this method just be too wobbly and hard to control?
That was my take on it Steven. I just couldn't see it being as stable (moving around). Even with 2 wires it sways around a little. I actually would have preferred to have 4 wires but I didn't want to deal with a crazy pulley system and couldn't think of a way to sync 2 hoists. That was another reason I went in this direction. I guess if you went a little smaller it would be conceivable coming from the edges or corners to a single wire in the center, but it seems you would lose some space in the loading area. There are quite a few that I have seen that use the pulley system, but I liked the cleaner look and feel of the garage door axle approach. In the end I only experienced this version so I don't have anything to compare it to in reality! :)
Why don't you put the platform in the hole then,put in spacers bloks.the adjust your winch.
Is there a upper limit switch to stop the lift at the top or do you have to control that manually?
I understand the springs to the bottom board keep it tight to the ceiling but how do you judge where to stop?
No, I do it manually. Since I do it manually I can easily judge when it is flush and sealed.
I keep a hand on one of the uprights as I jog upward near the top position and give it a light test shake until I notice the change in reaction to the springs. Once springs engage the platform reacts with an orbital motion.
I bought the hoist that you linked to in your description and I can’t seem to figure out how to get the bearing off the end of the shaft that holds the cable drum onto the shaft. In your video that part is in fast motion but it don’t see you actually removing that bearing. Can you clarify? I can send u a pick in case it’s different that yours. Thanks
Never mind. I was able to get my sawzall blade in between the bearing and the cable drum and cut the tip of the shaft off. You cut your shaft off after you removed the cable drum. Same difference I guess. Maybe this hoist is slightly different that’s the one you used.
Good info Steven. I was going by the similar build of the hoist. Thanks for posting this.
Did you build any automated stop switch for up or down lift limits?
No, I didn't.
I'm so worried about overloading my trusses by storing too much stuff in the attic. How do I know how much stuff I can put up there without being unsafe? I have solar panels on the roof.
I completely understand. I was the same way. Each situation is different. In my situation I tried to take precautions in reinforcements and also limiting the weight. It’s been almost 3 years and I monitor the ceiling for stress cracks. No issues so far for me. If you want to take extra precautions you could have an engineer give you a professional opinion.
What is the diameter of the shaft on the HF hoist? And is it a keyed shaft?
The one I bought was a 5/8" shaft. It was not keyed.
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Thanks for taking the time to comment! Actually they just sent me one of their new models! That wasn't my original intention. I was simply trying to get some new content up and I had just bought 2 of them for gifts. I honestly do like it, and really the only complaint I have looking back is that long cable in the handle. I felt like I had to force a little into the tube handle. I know why they did it...they had to have enough length (slack) to fold it into the smaller box. Other than that, it was money well spent! If someone is looking for a snow blower they should be looking a higher price point. I emphasize that this one is a "snow shovel". Thanks again!
I love the concept of this lift and its placement within your space. However, this build should not at all be considered as a tutorial of any sort as it fails to understand some fundamental concepts of structures. I won’t nitpick everything that could be “stronger,” but the design of the beam bearing the hoist, and the support provided for that beam are both woefully under-designed. As for the beam, remember that “tall is strong,” so a vertically placed 2x8 will bear a far greater load than two sistered 2x4s. An LVL beam would fit the space and provide a much greater capacity. That, however, wouldn’t matter with the beam support implemented here. The load ends up ostensibly being carried by two 2x6s which are already carrying the weight of the attic floor and it’s contents. If this was the only support option (it wasn’t) then at least those members should’ve received reinforcement as they will over-deflect as implemented. The beam should bear its weight to the load bearing exterior walls more directy, This build could’ve used less material while providing a higher lift capacity and greater safety margin.
Thank you for the detailed comment! I always take everything into consideration when viewing other builds, and when preparing to do one of my own. This includes ALL the comments. Appreciate your input so others can implement your advice! - Thanks
@@ABrazHouse thank YOU for the video. It’s a super cool concept that I’d love to implement myself. If I could figure out a way to do what you’ve done, but at the capacity to add provisions to the bottom of the “table” to use it as an engine hoist as well, it would be perfect for my uses. Very cool concept, thanks again.
@@MrPappabear88 I was reading through the comments looking for input just like this. I'm super interested in fully understanding what you're suggesting but after reading it a few times I've just had a hard time making sure I'm connecting the dots here.
You're suggesting replacing the laminated beam (created here with two 2x6 and two 3/4 plywood) with an LVL beam right?
Trying to figure out which two 2x6" that you're saying are carrying the weight of the attic floor and contents. Are you talking about the ceiling joists attached to the exterior wall top plates, or are you talking about the 2x6 header (that we can't see)?
I'm sure you have some solid points here that I am very interested in fully comprehending. =)
Good job, but all that hard work for such a small lift, I wish you have made it bigger
It's all relative to the space. Thanks!
How much headroom do you need in the attic for the beam?
The highest point of headroom I have from the middle is about 7ft.
Nice project but you should never run cable through bare hands!
For sure good point!
how do i gat those handles?
There is a link in the description.
what description are you talking about?
Right under the video there is a brief description, then a clickable "SHOW MORE" I have all of the items listed in the build and links to them. Here is the info on the handles: 1 Set - Vestil D-CNVR-250 Dolly Converter, 250 lbs Capacity, 12" Width x 37" Height
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@@ABrazHouse thank you, I ordered them
you can get any size bolts from bolt depot
Love your vid but far from a diy project i think.