I would love to watch some villa games w geezer. What a cool bloke. I'd be afraid id annoy him with questions though lol. Anyways, great interview I thought she asked some interesting questions
He lost everything he had on drugs and treatments... What he has now is a little part of the fortune he had on the 70's. He is just tired to be treated as the least important part of the band, and he is right!
he was offered a lesser share than the other members, he agreed to do it if everything was split evenly, but the rest of the band felt that to be unreasonable apparently.
They screwed for good in 70s by companies and people around them.I think they never had a manager like Zeppelin had who promoted them well and take care of promotion and all that.They were a great band but without people around to help them even their LPs cover are weak comparing them with other bands artwork back then.And i think their big problems started after usa and vol 4 with cocaine stuff.Still they achieved a lot but they could do much more together
That's a point of view. I do not judge anyone's decisions, because we don't have enough data to critizice. But I agree with you. We can't just blame Bill Ward. And if the problem was about an uneven split, I'm slightly dissapointed on them...
also, i never considered black sabbath as heavy metal. they were always hard rock to me and i saw them live in the late 70's and grew up on their music. heavy metal is judas priest, iron maiden, etc. sabbath is hard rock.
it was upsetting when bill broke the promise made on 11/11/11 but you make a very good point, being a drummer for sabbath after two heart attacks is not a good idea.
People keep saying it's all about money with bill. All i've heard from the rest of them is that his demands are unreasonable? That doesn't have to be money. That could be about his health and demands about touring dates or time off that won't happen with certain show business logistics. Also if it is money and he's had heart attacks maybe he needs the dough. Trust me when i tell you the Medical Business can drain anyone of their money. Because that is there business!
At least he engaged. Some interviewees give one word answers and don't elaborate on anything, Glenn Danzig for example. Some people might hate on me for saying that, so let me have it.
It's too bad they had Rick Rubin involved with that album... if you need to second guess/ need someone elses ear/ opinion then your music and inspiration are lacking...on their first three albums they didn't need that layer of bullshit to create something good...after hearing the album I'd say Rubin is definately overrated
@@tripp8833 Everything except End of the beginning and God is dead. And even god is dead recycles Geezers bass thing he did on the Cross Purposes album.
@I am Supernaut For sure...I was very disappointed with the album and the final tour as the great Black Sabbath but without Bill Ward? No thanks. Imagine what it could have been without all of the accumulated, collective bull $#it that has festered into the biz over the years.
Who cares if Ward wants more money?!? Fucking give it to him!! Ozzy, Tony & Geezer each have $250 million in the bank - who cares about the money!! I want to hear the music that is produced by the original four guys. Really irritates me.
Geezer is worth $65 million, Tony is worth $140 million (although some sources say $80 million), Bill is worth $65 million and Ozzy is worth $220 million.
I'm not certain it matters what type of amp you use in a stadium, it all sounds like one homogenous mess. It's like a drummer using Paiste instead of Zildjian. Who's going to notice? Product endorsements are largely marketing ploys and that's just about it.
To everyone saying that without Bill Ward there is no black sabbath, I hate to break it to you... Bill chose not to play. He wanted more money. He wanted this he wanted that he wanted more... That's always been his mantra. For him I really don't get the impression that it was always about the music. I get the impression its been about the dough the entire time. Sorry, this is just my opinion. The man has more money saved than most of us will ever earn in our lifetimes...
They treated him as a session musician. If they were going to do a "original black sabbath return", then he should be treated as such and get paid even if he would have been to sick to play. It's about recognizing him for what he was for the band. Replacing him and cutting his due speaks volumes. But we can thank Sharon for this and many atrocities involving Sabbath and Ozzy's solo carreer musicians. I can't listen to Ozzy's music without thinking of all that stuff.
@@cloudwizard7694 I didn't say that he shouldn't have been paid to play, read what I said again please. As far as treating him as a session guy, absolutely not, if you read the multiple interviews and watch the multiple interviews he was offered a very reasonable and fair sum of cash. As far as being paid more than what he was offered that's a very subjective statement. However this is all opinion and not fact. So have a good one and enjoy the music.
@@mikeredrugger But can you say he would have gotten paid for the shows where some other guy might have replaced him? The whole story is funky and I just don't buy it that Bill just wanted more and more money.
@@cloudwizard7694 When the band says that he wanted more money then I'm going to listen to them. Also if he doesn't play a show he doesn't deserve to get paid for that show, just as if Tony didn't play a show he doesn't deserve to be paid for that show. It's pretty simple, if I don't show up for work I don't get paid for that day. Neither should they, you earn what you get.
@@mikeredrugger They (=Sharon?) tried to do a deal that was unfair and have the replacement musicians on the tour. It's retarded to think it was about beeing greedy. If you had paid attention, the whole "reunion" thing was sour from the beginning.
Geezer seems to be the nicest guy there ever was and an amazing bass player. I strive to be more like Geezer.
Geezer is such a sweetheart
"You get prozac with each album". That's Geezer's sense of humour
Tonny Iommi once said that Bill Ward is THE drummer because of his unorthodics playing style. I believe there's someone behind all of this.
Geezer is so sweet.
Tony & Geezer are the heart of the heavy metal
DOT
Geezer an absolute beaut
P’s and Q’s Podcast ye some times his bass playing sometimes sounds almost perfect. Also his lyrics aren’t half bad L.O.L.
My left ear really enjoyed that interview.
cool interveiw..
I was so stunned to notice that until you say.
He is such a god!
WE WANT BILL
My heart stopped at 4:32
SOUTH AMERICA! BRAZIL!!! \o/
I would love to watch some villa games w geezer. What a cool bloke. I'd be afraid id annoy him with questions though lol. Anyways, great interview I thought she asked some interesting questions
7:03 "we just do want we want anyways cause you know- WE ARE BLACK FKING SABBATH"
He lost everything he had on drugs and treatments... What he has now is a little part of the fortune he had on the 70's. He is just tired to be treated as the least important part of the band, and he is right!
WE WANT BILL +1
he was offered a lesser share than the other members, he agreed to do it if everything was split evenly, but the rest of the band felt that to be unreasonable apparently.
Turn your head and listen again.
They screwed for good in 70s by companies and people around them.I think they never had a manager like Zeppelin had who promoted them well and take care of promotion and all that.They were a great band but without people around to help them even their LPs cover are weak comparing them with other bands artwork back then.And i think their big problems started after usa and vol 4 with cocaine stuff.Still they achieved a lot but they could do much more together
Yeah thank god. I'll start saving now for everything ;-)
That's a point of view.
I do not judge anyone's decisions, because we don't have enough data to critizice.
But I agree with you. We can't just blame Bill Ward. And if the problem was about an uneven split, I'm slightly dissapointed on them...
Don't forget Bill :/
Ahh something new. B-)
also, i never considered black sabbath as heavy metal. they were always hard rock to me and i saw them live in the late 70's and grew up on their music. heavy metal is judas priest, iron maiden, etc. sabbath is hard rock.
The term heavy metal was invented by the media to call the sound they were maminha. So theyre Metal. The absolute definition.
South america !!
it was upsetting when bill broke the promise made on 11/11/11 but you make a very good point, being a drummer for sabbath after two heart attacks is not a good idea.
Are the 4 Sabbath North American tour dates the only ones, or will more be announced?
People keep saying it's all about money with bill. All i've heard from the rest of them is that his demands are unreasonable? That doesn't have to be money. That could be about his health and demands about touring dates or time off that won't happen with certain show business logistics. Also if it is money and he's had heart attacks maybe he needs the dough. Trust me when i tell you the Medical Business can drain anyone of their money. Because that is there business!
I think his responses ended up being way shorter then the interviewer expected lol. Rock on Geezer
At least he engaged. Some interviewees give one word answers and don't elaborate on anything, Glenn Danzig for example. Some people might hate on me for saying that, so let me have it.
Yeah, started to think something was wrong with my headphones lol
It's too bad they had Rick Rubin involved with that album... if you need to second guess/ need someone elses ear/ opinion then your music and inspiration are lacking...on their first three albums they didn't need that layer of bullshit to create something good...after hearing the album I'd say Rubin is definately overrated
Rubin did a good job with Johnny Cash but i agree, the whole album 13 felt manufactured. They should have done it without him
@@tripp8833 Everything except End of the beginning and God is dead. And even god is dead recycles Geezers bass thing he did on the Cross Purposes album.
@I am Supernaut For sure...I was very disappointed with the album and the final tour as the great Black Sabbath but without Bill Ward? No thanks. Imagine what it could have been without all of the accumulated, collective bull $#it that has festered into the biz over the years.
Up the Villa.
A_W_K_W_A_R_D !!!
i'd use hartke too if they paid me enough. till then i'll stick with my SVT Heritage. ;P
Who cares if Ward wants more money?!? Fucking give it to him!! Ozzy, Tony & Geezer each have $250 million in the bank - who cares about the money!! I want to hear the music that is produced by the original four guys. Really irritates me.
Geezer is worth $65 million, Tony is worth $140 million (although some sources say $80 million), Bill is worth $65 million and Ozzy is worth $220 million.
ouch my left ear
I think this is on the Mayan calendar. They did know that at least O:-) B-).
damn i was ganna say that!
well i guess were all ganna say it anyway..! LOL
i dont think he can anymore .He didnt like the $ and hes to old to keep up and play rock songs every night
I'm not certain it matters what type of amp you use in a stadium, it all sounds like one homogenous mess. It's like a drummer using Paiste instead of Zildjian. Who's going to notice? Product endorsements are largely marketing ploys and that's just about it.
geezer butler's net worth is 65 million
Not the greatest interviewer (is that a word?). " So you guys have been around since...back in the day"
07:22... it's called FOOTBALL!!!
Who God?
A millions billions £,$, etc
To everyone saying that without Bill Ward there is no black sabbath, I hate to break it to you... Bill chose not to play. He wanted more money. He wanted this he wanted that he wanted more... That's always been his mantra. For him I really don't get the impression that it was always about the music. I get the impression its been about the dough the entire time. Sorry, this is just my opinion. The man has more money saved than most of us will ever earn in our lifetimes...
They treated him as a session musician. If they were going to do a "original black sabbath return", then he should be treated as such and get paid even if he would have been to sick to play. It's about recognizing him for what he was for the band. Replacing him and cutting his due speaks volumes. But we can thank Sharon for this and many atrocities involving Sabbath and Ozzy's solo carreer musicians. I can't listen to Ozzy's music without thinking of all that stuff.
@@cloudwizard7694 I didn't say that he shouldn't have been paid to play, read what I said again please. As far as treating him as a session guy, absolutely not, if you read the multiple interviews and watch the multiple interviews he was offered a very reasonable and fair sum of cash. As far as being paid more than what he was offered that's a very subjective statement. However this is all opinion and not fact. So have a good one and enjoy the music.
@@mikeredrugger But can you say he would have gotten paid for the shows where some other guy might have replaced him? The whole story is funky and I just don't buy it that Bill just wanted more and more money.
@@cloudwizard7694 When the band says that he wanted more money then I'm going to listen to them. Also if he doesn't play a show he doesn't deserve to get paid for that show, just as if Tony didn't play a show he doesn't deserve to be paid for that show. It's pretty simple, if I don't show up for work I don't get paid for that day. Neither should they, you earn what you get.
@@mikeredrugger They (=Sharon?) tried to do a deal that was unfair and have the replacement musicians on the tour. It's retarded to think it was about beeing greedy. If you had paid attention, the whole "reunion" thing was sour from the beginning.