My favorite part of this video is that you are guys are doing this as team. I know as a young man it wouldn’t have meant much to me but seeing this now, makes me happy and jealous ! Safe travels !
Just some future trailer safety, don't stand between the truck and trailer while backing up and definitely don't stand over or on the tongue while shifting a load. Be very bad for something mechanical to fail on video
Some one probably already commented this but you can slide the adapter in first and line your pin up with the holes but don’t push the pin all the way in, just enough to hold the adapter in place while you feed in the hitch
Nice video. I love that tongue weight scale. WARNING though : Better be careful when pulling into or out of a steep driveway to a flat road. That long additional drop post will drag and scratch up someone's driveway.
Living the dream! When your son Michael had his head over the hitch watching the scale change as the Razor moved to the back, my heart just sank. Never do that again please, there was no weight on the ball and there was likely upward pressure just held in place with the ball safety clamp. Had the hitch popped off it could have been a disaster for your boy. BTW, there is one Amazon review at the time of this posting for the WS6-3 giving it 1 star saying the gauge failed and seller doesn't seem to be making it right. Pretty sad for a $340 hitch. Hope yours is holding up well.
Your video took lot of time and effort and i could tell was fun to do with your boys. I did lot with my 4 sons growing up and they still talk about it. GOOD job
@@matthewjames2235 Long term update from me is it's still working great. No issues. I do remove it from the truck when not in use though. I will also take out the ball occasionally and clean out the grime. That's probably the biggest risk is getting junk in where the shaft pushes on the hydraulic scale.
I learned a lot from your videos when I got my 2012 F350. I just wish I could get a 2017 as well but my wife says I have to keep the one I have for 20 years. Only 6 more payments and I own it free and clear. Thanks for your vids.
Micheal's back. He is starting to get famous from your videos, all the girls will be chasing after him soon. That is quite the hitch you found, I can say I have ever seen anything like that with the little scale built into it. I love the fact that you can see the weight on the hitch, that is extremely handy and useful in my opinion especially if your ever stopped by Highway Safety or the Police and they want to question you about your load etc. I can see where that would answer a lot of questions they might have. Another great video Mr T good to see your putting the SD thru it's paces with the kids along to help.
You should cross your chains. Where i am it's illegal not to. If your hitch ever fails chains will catch your trailer and prevent it from digging into the ground
BIGRED SUPERDUTY Locking pins are for honest people. Every one I had had I've been able to break off with a three pound mallet in less than a minute. I seem to always loose the keys
I will definitely look that up my dad has a 16 f250 diesel Ana we have 35 foot camper weighing around 10,000 that hitch would b so good for that great vid and love the truck
Great Video!! I have two hitches!! One for daily use. That one I use in case someone decides to get to close 😜 The other is a heavy hitch to tow my trailer!! I really like the one you showcased. Easy to put in 👍
I don’t think he’s hating, he was asking a question. Most F-250 owners purchased that type of truck because it either looks cool or they want to show off. 95% of super duty buyers never use its full capability and a half ton would suffice. Especially that they can now tow over 13k lbs and get almost double the fuel economy.
If you just teach him to just put the adapter in then put the pin just in to the adapter side then slide the receiver in it would take seconds but you would have to be smarter than the ball yourself and yes the chains need to be crossed and you have the hooks upside-down
i pulled my 13k trl with a rental 16 f250 and had balance issues so i had to reposition my tractor. with my own trk i can see the trk sitting and judge my tongue load. no scale needed. 3 inch reciever holy crap
Yeah, that's the thing. Without a scale you just kind of look at the truck and guess. If if sways, load farther forward next time. With the capacities of these trucks nowadays you almost don't have to worry about a load being to heavy. It is interesting to see actual numbers now though.
Beautiful hitch, but hopefully by now you have upgraded the clip pin to a locking pin. It would only take 5 seconds for some low life to run off with it as is.
That is the coolest hitch I've ever seen! I just bought one like yours, literally 1 second ago...hate those adapters. Do I need to call weigh-safe tomorrow and let them know where I heard about them?
You made my point! It takes instructions to deal with two adapters in a single hitch! lol. Just kidding, another method is to put both adapters in and then insert the pin just enough to hold them but not interfere with the hitch. Slide it in and push pin when lined up. Really I was just messing with my son. He hadn't done it before and I thought I'd just get that on video.
1) Isthere any rattle between the ball platform & the shank while towing? 2) How are the pins, that secure the ball platform to the shank, mounted to the locking mechanism? Thanks for the vid... it got me wanting to spend more money.
When I'm towing I can't hear the hitch by itself. I hear the trailer and everything it's hooked to. There is some clunking but there is always clunking when towing. Weigh Safe uses a two-pin design which I think is superior to the single pin on other adjustables. It's very strong.
Yeah, this was played up a little for dramatic effect. This 2017 F350 had two adapters to get it down from the 3 inch receiver. One to make it 2.5 inches and another to make it 2 inches. It was just a lot of extra parts and rattling that wasn't necessary.
Great video! Comparing the Weigh Safe to the Rapid Hitch, would you say the Weigh Safe is still a much better product? Besides the obvious advantage of the scale, does the Weigh Safe have less rattle than the Rapid Hitch? Thanks!
Yeah, what can you say about the Rapid Hitch? It's a hitch, it works great, it does what it's supposed to. The weigh safe does all that but with style! And of course the scale is just amazing. I can't really speak to rattle because I don't drive around with the hitch in the receiver. Only time it's in is when a trailer is attached. I understand Weigh-Safe just made their shanks longer to go further into the receiver just to make less noise so that's good.
I've gotten in the habit of pulling out the ball from the base if it's wet. It collects a lot of dirt in the base and can gum up the piston. Regardless, Weigh Safe has a great reputation of taking care of warranty claims.
nice truck. you didn't have to play up the difficulty of installing first hitch though. common sense and it would have taken the same amount of time as the new hitch.
You might not need an F-250. An F-150 can tow up to 13k lbs and they now have a diesel that can tow over 11k lbs and gets 25mpg highway. The F-250 is cool looking but you will be burning more fuel and it is a bigger truck overall. Most F-250 owners never use its full tow capacity purpose and a half ton could do 95% of jobs.
love your new superduty and your new rzr. Did your truck come with the factory puck system or did you install a b&w . please don't be dropping any tool boxes in your bed.😊
Lol about the tool box. No worries there. I'm also not planning to drop a load of landscaping blocks from 6 feet either. This truck has the Ford 5th Wheel Prep. It is super cool. I just got a compatible base from B&W and am re-using the head that I already had. Saved lots of $.
EpicCowlick Well, coupling trailers daily with POS dump trucks on heavy equipment gives me a little different perception. Back up cameras, tongue weight scales just makes me smile. Very nice truck though, hopefully I can get myself one in the near future.
I noticed that is a 3" hitch receiver on a 160" wheel base, how did you get them to install that when a 2.5" seems to be the standard on 160". I have one on order and my dealer said I am getting a 2.5" installed
Your dealer is right. My truck is a job 1 built in October 2016 and Ford changed the receiver sizes on Job 2. The 3 inch receivers are now only available on long bed 350 and HD 250's. The duallys get the 3 inch receiver also. It doesn't make perfect sense but it's generally agreed that the 3 inch receiver is overkill. The 2.5 will give all the capacity the truck is actually rated for.
Do you know what size hooks you have on your trailer safety chains. The new Ford hitch design has got a lot of people perplexed on how to hook up safety chains. Apparently there are a lot of hooks without the depth to fit through the hole and still latch.
They are marked G70 5/16 on the hooks. The problem with some of the hooks is not that the hook is not large enough, it's that the safety latch is too long. I just watched a video on the Fast Lane Truck on a F250 going over the Ike Gauntlet where the guy showed the problem. The hooks on that trailer fit fine but the safety clasp would not close. There's a simple and easy fix and that is to simply shorten the safety clasp. Some folks use a dremel or a hacksaw to cut off a quarter inch of length. Then the hook fits over and the clasp closes fine. My video shows how the hooks work with shorter clasps and there's no issue. There clearly are variables out there in the trailer hook making industry.
Thanks, I saw that fix on the Ford-Trucks forum. Guess I'll have to pull out the sawzall and shorten the latches, but first I need long enough chains. Moving the hook up point back the two or three inches they did from the previous Super Duty means my chains are just a bit short.
What size drop do you recommend with the 17 Super duty if i was towing a little utility trailer (6x10)? I was looking at a 6", but would that be enough?
A quick rule of thumb is to take whatever you were using before and add two inches of drop. My trailers worked fine with a 6 inch drop hitch on my 2011 but I need a 8 inch drop to keep the trailers level with the 2017. Ball height on the Weigh Safe with a 8 inch drop and OEM wheels & tires will be 18 inches off the ground. On my truck it is 19 inches off the ground due to the larger tires. Go measure the top off the tongue on your lowest trailer and use that as a reference.
May have ask this on one of your earlier videos, what's your thoughts on adding a Biocide to the fuel tank of a 6.7 diesel, love the air lift system had one installed on my F350, now added an auxiliary fuel tank in the bed and always use the cetane booster, your videos got me under the truck to do a oil & fuel filter change also purchased the quick release oil plug. Keep them coming
I think the diesel fuel should be as little messed-with as possible. The 30,000 psi fuel pump depends on quality fuel and most additives do little if any good and some can do serious harm. Cetane booster? Sure, but anything that emulsifies water would be a big no no.
When you get a moment take a look at Transfer Flow, Inc for tanks I purchased their system and love the automatic transfer and monitoring of the process. So far so good. Thanks Again
I just picked up a new F350 crew cab platinum short bed Super Duty like yours and it came with a 2.5" class 5 hitch with a 15,000 lb rating. Did yours come with the 3" hitch from the factory or is that something that you changed after you received it? What is the load rating on your hitch? Thanks!
Ford put the 3" receiver on the early 2017s but changed back to 2.5 inch after a little while. The 3" is rated 20,000 lbs with 2,000 lb tongue weight if memory serves.
Good question. I suppose it does as the dynamic load changes with the vertical momentum over bumps in the road. It would be interesting to see the load change when going over some good freeway rollers. I wouldn't be surprised to see it vary by several hundred pounds.
I have the same hitch but it started leaking and it has now lost all its hydroponic pressure abilities and gauge no longer works..now it's just an every day plain ole hitch.
Good advice but I never leave the hitch in the receiver when not pulling a trailer. It goes under the back seat. It's been in heavy use for two seasons and is working great!
Mine works the same as day one. I use it every couple of weeks. I don't leave it on the truck when not in use and I also separate the ball from the base every now and then to clean it out. I can see how the scale might fail if road salts and grime build up.
Great video on Weigh Safe hitches. I researched online and viewed your vid which helped me to decide to get one. Got the 2.5" 8" drop version. Great quality safety device. I have a Reese Elite 25k 5th Wheel along with the factory receiver (allowing for 20k 5th wheel or 15k trailer tow capacities with the 3.55 gearing). Bought the truck for our new to RVing this summer, and deciding on 5th Wheel or tow behind toy hauler, leaning towards the Winnebago Spyder 29KS or the Scorpion 3480. Seeing as you also have a toy hauler, interested in your feedback in general re the F350 towing performance and 5th vs hitch pull or videos. Funny thing though is that I didn't realize you had the 2017 F350 Platinum until I later happened across your tire spacer video (as I'm looking to increase my tire size on OEM wheels as well) for my 17 F350 Platinum. How are the Toyo's working and the spacers? Keep up the interesting vids.
All good questions. I'm really enjoying the Weigh Safe hitch. Great to have a single solution for all different ball sizes and have the scale feature too. It's just an awesome product. As to the 5th wheel vs tag trailer, they really are two different animals. A 5th wheel is extremely stable and easy to pull especially in windy conditions. You have to learn to swing wider on turns but that's about the only negative I can think of. It's a huge upgrade over a ball hitch for longer or heavier trailers. The wheel spacers are not a long term solution. They do give just a little extra clearance and that's great but it's difficult to center the wheel on only 1/8th inch of hub. It's easy to be a little out of balance which you can feel on the freeway. I've put the spacers on the shelf and adapted to the rubbing. It only happens on full lock so it's not a problem for me. The Toyo RT's are a great compromise between AT's and MT's. I just got back from a 5,100 mile towing trip and they worked great. They also worked very well in some deep sand and over rocks in Moab. They're my new goto model.
EpicCowlick Thanks for your quick feedback. I look forward to using the Weigh Safe. Also thanks for 5th vs tow insight. It's a shame the spacers didn't work out. I really like the Toyo's so I may make due with rubbing near lock just as you are. Sorry, should have asked how Toyo's are working for you in the snow in winter? Again thanks for your feedback.
I've heard there is a 37/11.50 size available which would clear all suspension parts even at full lock. I'm planning to try that size next time around. These tires did really well in the snow last winter. They were brand new so maybe that's part of it. This year will be the best test of ice and snow.
How's the tank size on that ? Any chances of you putting a titan like the last truck ? You running a steering stablizer on that with 37s and is it leveled
Tank is 34 gallons which is 6 gallons bigger on the 2017. I haven't heard if Titan is planning a 50 gallon tank but I will do it if they do. 1.5 inch level with no extra stabilizers. I am going to put better shocks on to accommodate the heavier tires.
The new versions hitch is higher off ground. About 1.5 inches in stock config. I found that going from a 6 inch to an 8 inch drop was just right. This truck is leveled 2.5 inches and I have 37/12.50/20 tires.
There's so many variables, it's hard to tell. I have the 8 inch and in my case I use the lowest setting all the time. If it came down even two full inches it would still have plenty of clearance when towing. If you end up with a lot of sag, airbags will fix you right up!
EpicCowlick Righr on! Thanks! Now I just need Ranch Hand to hurry up on the adapter for their Horizon Front bumper. Haha I have adaptive cruise control which won't work with that bumper. They said they will be realising the adapter soon.
If crossed, the chains will catch the tongue of the trailer and hold it off the road if the trailer becomes unattached. If not, the trailer tongue will go instantly to the road and can catch on any irregular surface.
That may be true on some trailers but is not always true for all trailers. If placement over the trailer axles does not leave enough weight on the hitch, the trailer will become dangerously unstable at speed. Trailer sway is controlled primarily by make sure there is proper weight on the hitch. ruclips.net/video/i2fkOVHAC8Q/видео.html
Ford made it that way on the first 6 months of the new model's production and then reverted back to the 2.5. There are some models that have the 3" but it's not across the board anymore. It's kind of a unicorn feature.
That's what I have. My previous truck worked with a six inch drop with all my trailers but this truck is 2 inches higher. So it's easy math to say I need an 8 inch drop. 10 inches would just be too much and would likely drag.
Michael 23 This is one of the early 2017s that had the 3 inch receiver. Note the two sleeves that reduce to 2.5 and then to 2 inches. No problem though. I was just messing with him. He kind of played it up a but.
I went with the 8 inch drop. A good rule of thumb is that whatever you were using before on the previous version super duty this one is 2 inches taller. If you were using a 6 inch drop with all your trailers before, the 8 inch drop is what is needed for the 2017.
I've used mine a lot and it works great. I've heard of some complaints that the scale fails but in every case people leave the hitch in full time. Dirt and grime collecting between the ball and base will eventually gum it up. I keep my hitch under the back seat and use it only when I'm actually towing.
Mostly because I've pulled that trailer quite a bit and I already know what height it needs to be level. This 2017 Ford is fully 2 inches higher than the 2011 and on that one I used a 4 inch drop for this trailer. So, easy math, 6 inch drop with the Weigh Safe hitch. I have another enclosed trailer that is even lower and I use the full 8 inch drop for that one.
Hello, if you were to purchase again, would you go with the 10". Also how many inches is it from the top of the receiver to the ground? And how many inches from the bottom of the weigh safe to the ground (clearance)? Lastly, do you notice any difference not using a weight distributing hitch (I know ford says not required with 3" hitch)? Thanks in advance, I ordered the same truck (10-18 week wait) and I can't find this info anywhere.
Good questions. It's 25 inches from the ground to the top of the receiver and 14 inches to the bottom of the adjustable shank. Be aware that I have 37/12.50/20 tires which raise the truck about 1.25 inches higher than the OEM Michellins. I have no need for a 10 inch drop even with my lowest trailer. I haven't pulled a tag trailer with a weight distributing hitch for several years so I can't really speak to that question. I have read reports from other owners that the truck does very well without it but many still use anti-sway devices just for extra precaution.
I just got a 2017 F250 in January. It is stock height (23” from ground to top of receiver). My Dump Trailer wants to be at 18” to be level, (5” Drop). I think I’m going to go with 6” Drop Version. How long is the adjustable section on the 8” Drop you have? Thanks in advance! Great videos and I liked the Drone section!
The new Ford Super Duty is the only truck I know that uses the 3 inch receiver and not all of them have it. You want to make sure you measure your receiver to be certain.
My favorite part of this video is that you are guys are doing this as team. I know as a young man it wouldn’t have meant much to me but seeing this now, makes me happy and jealous ! Safe travels !
Just some future trailer safety, don't stand between the truck and trailer while backing up and definitely don't stand over or on the tongue while shifting a load. Be very bad for something mechanical to fail on video
I came to the comments as soon as I saw that
I realize it's kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good place to stream newly released series online ?
@Tristen Brooks Lately I have been using FlixZone. Just search on google for it =)
@Yael Milo yup, have been using Flixzone for months myself :)
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Some one probably already commented this but you can slide the adapter in first and line your pin up with the holes but don’t push the pin all the way in, just enough to hold the adapter in place while you feed in the hitch
Just messing with him.
Holy Crap! I thought that was a Paul Bunyon Water Fountian at first! Looks Heavy Duty. Nice.
Lol. Still works great.
Nice video. I love that tongue weight scale. WARNING though : Better be careful when pulling into or out of a steep driveway to a flat road. That long additional drop post will drag and scratch up someone's driveway.
My grand daughter slides the adapters over the hitch then slides them into the receiver unit in about 10 seconds. I under stand your making a point !!
Good job Dad, he learned something that day!
A little dramatic license for effect but illustrates the frustration. He's a good kid.
Living the dream! When your son Michael had his head over the hitch watching the scale change as the Razor moved to the back, my heart just sank. Never do that again please, there was no weight on the ball and there was likely upward pressure just held in place with the ball safety clamp. Had the hitch popped off it could have been a disaster for your boy. BTW, there is one Amazon review at the time of this posting for the WS6-3 giving it 1 star saying the gauge failed and seller doesn't seem to be making it right. Pretty sad for a $340 hitch. Hope yours is holding up well.
Thanks for the tip. Hitch works great and I know for a fact that WS will warranty a failed scale. Wonder what the problem is with that reviewer.
Your video took lot of time and effort and i could tell was fun to do with your boys. I did lot with my 4 sons growing up and they still talk about it. GOOD job
You're absolutely right. It's not really about the hitch or the truck. It's about family. Nothing is more important.
I bought one today for new Ram Longhorn 2500 :)
Please upload more videos about the 17 super duty
I'll keep them coming as long as there's something to do!
EpicCowlick do something.
Any update on this hitch? Online reviews have a lot of fails at the gauge. @@EpicCowlick
@@matthewjames2235 Long term update from me is it's still working great. No issues. I do remove it from the truck when not in use though. I will also take out the ball occasionally and clean out the grime. That's probably the biggest risk is getting junk in where the shaft pushes on the hydraulic scale.
I learned a lot from your videos when I got my 2012 F350. I just wish I could get a 2017 as well but my wife says I have to keep the one I have for 20 years. Only 6 more payments and I own it free and clear. Thanks for your vids.
Free and clear! That's where you want to be. That 2012 is an awesome truck and will be for another 15 years.
That kid should've never been standing near that hitch when he backed that machine up, be safe everyone!!! Accident waiting to happen there...
Micheal's back. He is starting to get famous from your videos, all the girls will be chasing after him soon. That is quite the hitch you found, I can say I have ever seen anything like that with the little scale built into it. I love the fact that you can see the weight on the hitch, that is extremely handy and useful in my opinion especially if your ever stopped by Highway Safety or the Police and they want to question you about your load etc. I can see where that would answer a lot of questions they might have.
Another great video Mr T good to see your putting the SD thru it's paces with the kids along to help.
You should cross your chains. Where i am it's illegal not to. If your hitch ever fails chains will catch your trailer and prevent it from digging into the ground
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you need a locking pin somebody will steal that hitch.
True, true. I hate thieves.
BIGRED SUPERDUTY Locking pins are for honest people. Every one I had had I've been able to break off with a three pound mallet in less than a minute. I seem to always loose the keys
uriah highsmith Best to just remove the hitch when not in use and store it under the back seat.
I will definitely look that up my dad has a 16 f250 diesel Ana we have 35 foot camper weighing around 10,000 that hitch would b so good for that great vid and love the truck
Look at bolt locking pin. You program it with your truck key. One turn till it stops and only your truck key works with it. The 5/8 pin
The insight pin which hook the ball can be jumped off easily.
Great Video!! I have two hitches!! One for daily use. That one I use in case someone decides to get to close 😜
The other is a heavy hitch to tow my trailer!! I really like the one you showcased. Easy to put in 👍
Awesome, thanks for that vid! Looking forward to some more footage from the drone!!!
dam you got the platinum edition
It's sweet!
thebayareapimp you can have all this stuff too, it's called being in debt.
Or making more money......@@SUPERTRUCKER1984
That hitch looks like a good investment! I've hurt my fingers too damn often trying to line up both the pin holes.
Put your adapter in to the holes align/ put the pin into it(holding it) then slide in your 3" in. Easy.
I never dealt with adapters but it would seem like putting the adapter on the 3" and sliding it in as a unit would be easier also.
do you pull anything more than a side by side with that truck that's rated to pull a house?
A very heavy toy hauler. That's sort of like pulling a house. ;)
oh. yeah, just went through your vids. I've seen you before. nice rig.
Does it matter?
Hater
I don’t think he’s hating, he was asking a question. Most F-250 owners purchased that type of truck because it either looks cool or they want to show off. 95% of super duty buyers never use its full capability and a half ton would suffice. Especially that they can now tow over 13k lbs and get almost double the fuel economy.
Dumb question, but shouldn't you cross the chains underneath the hitch? You may know something I don't.
Man check out those 700k houses
MEJB7 huh? Double that.
Lol
Million dollar home that's 10 feet away from the next house? No thanks, give me land & a driveway that get's you out of 1st gear....
And?
Would rather have a lot of land than a lot of house
That production value! lol love it.
lol. I don't know what production value is...
2 1/2 hitch
If you just teach him to just put the adapter in then put the pin just in to the adapter side then slide the receiver in it would take seconds but you would have to be smarter than the ball yourself and yes the chains need to be crossed and you have the hooks upside-down
i pulled my 13k trl with a rental 16 f250 and had balance issues so i had to reposition my tractor. with my own trk i can see the trk sitting and judge my tongue load. no scale needed. 3 inch reciever holy crap
Yeah, that's the thing. Without a scale you just kind of look at the truck and guess. If if sways, load farther forward next time. With the capacities of these trucks nowadays you almost don't have to worry about a load being to heavy. It is interesting to see actual numbers now though.
if you put the pin just a little bit in so it holds the adaptors, then you can put in your hitch without moving all the adaptors...
He figured it out eventually, lol. I was just messing with the kid.
I love your videos! I have a white 2011 lariat that looked like your old one. I wanna put in a titan tank like you did
That tank was one of the best upgrades I ever did. A bit expensive but worth it.
Beautiful hitch, but hopefully by now you have upgraded the clip pin to a locking pin. It would only take 5 seconds for some low life to run off with it as is.
I really should do that. I am good at removing it when it's not in use though. I store it under the back seat.
not a fan of the 2" or 3" square hitch it may be up to 3" but it still uses a 5/8 pin
I think ill stick with a nato hitch with 4 M16 bolts
That is the coolest hitch I've ever seen! I just bought one like yours, literally 1 second ago...hate those adapters. Do I need to call weigh-safe tomorrow and let them know where I heard about them?
Lol. Thanks but I have no obligations with the company. Just a great product.
On one video you mentioned about a larger fuel tank, did you add a larger OEM tank on your 2017. Thanks
Not yet. Waiting to see what comes out.
Finally got one. ruclips.net/video/c4Vw7_44um0/видео.html
Awesome drone footage 💪🏽
Pull hitch out, slide small adapter on hitch, slide large adapter on hitch, slide assembly into receiver. No?
You made my point! It takes instructions to deal with two adapters in a single hitch! lol. Just kidding, another method is to put both adapters in and then insert the pin just enough to hold them but not interfere with the hitch. Slide it in and push pin when lined up. Really I was just messing with my son. He hadn't done it before and I thought I'd just get that on video.
1) Isthere any rattle between the ball platform & the shank while towing? 2) How are the pins, that secure the ball platform to the shank, mounted to the locking mechanism? Thanks for the vid... it got me wanting to spend more money.
When I'm towing I can't hear the hitch by itself. I hear the trailer and everything it's hooked to. There is some clunking but there is always clunking when towing. Weigh Safe uses a two-pin design which I think is superior to the single pin on other adjustables. It's very strong.
But how are those two pins secured into the locking mechanism? Are they welded? Is it just set screws holding them in?
Had that hitch for 6 months great for telling me how much weight but it came apart ball got so sloppy scared I was going to lose my trailer
Weird. Mine is not as shiny as new but still just as tight. I pull a 10k enclosed trailer with that hitch a fair amount.
I'm sold. Excellent vid.
Im looking for a new adjustable hitch. Would say theres a quality difference between the Andersen and the WeighSafe? Thanks!
I have an Andersen adjustable and it's fine. It just requires adapters and doesn't have the scale feature. Two different animals but both work great.
That hitch is nice gotta get one
Love the truck ..... Super nice and thanks for the videos
Thanks.
I know this is an old vid but I always slide the adapter on first then slide it in the hitch. Seems to work for me.
Yeah, this was played up a little for dramatic effect. This 2017 F350 had two adapters to get it down from the 3 inch receiver. One to make it 2.5 inches and another to make it 2 inches. It was just a lot of extra parts and rattling that wasn't necessary.
Great video! Comparing the Weigh Safe to the Rapid Hitch, would you say the Weigh Safe is still a much better product? Besides the obvious advantage of the scale, does the Weigh Safe have less rattle than the Rapid Hitch? Thanks!
Yeah, what can you say about the Rapid Hitch? It's a hitch, it works great, it does what it's supposed to. The weigh safe does all that but with style! And of course the scale is just amazing. I can't really speak to rattle because I don't drive around with the hitch in the receiver. Only time it's in is when a trailer is attached. I understand Weigh-Safe just made their shanks longer to go further into the receiver just to make less noise so that's good.
My hitch reading failed due to the harsh winter conditions. When to a razor hitch without reading
I've gotten in the habit of pulling out the ball from the base if it's wet. It collects a lot of dirt in the base and can gum up the piston. Regardless, Weigh Safe has a great reputation of taking care of warranty claims.
Nice hitch on that truck' and nice bulldog hitch on the PJ....Trailer
we towed more than that with a 01 Expedition we towed a 10k pound bumper pull dump trailer have no idea what was on the hitch
Yeah, I had a smaller toy hauler that I pulled with a 99 Expedition for a few years. But I was using a weight distributing hitch with that.
I don't haul anything with my pavement princess but I want that hitch!!!!
nice truck. you didn't have to play up the difficulty of installing first hitch though. common sense and it would have taken the same amount of time as the new hitch.
Just having fun with Michael. Maybe a tad bit exaggerated but he did struggle until he figured it out.
Awesome thorough video.
Looking to purchase a 2017 F-250 to tow a boat. Keep up the informative videos and lets see one on your new truck....
JD
Will do
Ok thanks.You also may want to check out the Geny Flex Hitch......
You might not need an F-250. An F-150 can tow up to 13k lbs and they now have a diesel that can tow over 11k lbs and gets 25mpg highway. The F-250 is cool looking but you will be burning more fuel and it is a bigger truck overall. Most F-250 owners never use its full tow capacity purpose and a half ton could do 95% of jobs.
love your new superduty and your new rzr. Did your truck come with the factory puck system or did you install a b&w . please don't be dropping any tool boxes in your bed.😊
Lol about the tool box. No worries there. I'm also not planning to drop a load of landscaping blocks from 6 feet either. This truck has the Ford 5th Wheel Prep. It is super cool. I just got a compatible base from B&W and am re-using the head that I already had. Saved lots of $.
As a guy who works construction, yuppies leave me speechless.
LOL. Kind of lost my edge, huh.
EpicCowlick Well, coupling trailers daily with POS dump trucks on heavy equipment gives me a little different perception. Back up cameras, tongue weight scales just makes me smile. Very nice truck though, hopefully I can get myself one in the near future.
I noticed that is a 3" hitch receiver on a 160" wheel base, how did you get them to install that when a 2.5" seems to be the standard on 160". I have one on order and my dealer said I am getting a 2.5" installed
Your dealer is right. My truck is a job 1 built in October 2016 and Ford changed the receiver sizes on Job 2. The 3 inch receivers are now only available on long bed 350 and HD 250's. The duallys get the 3 inch receiver also. It doesn't make perfect sense but it's generally agreed that the 3 inch receiver is overkill. The 2.5 will give all the capacity the truck is actually rated for.
pull the adapter out put it on the hitch and put the assembly as a unit back in the receiver; simple problem solving.
Exaggerated for dramatic effect. ;) Mostly just messing with the kid. He figured it out.
LOL that's great
Is that an aluminum hitch receiver? Are they as good as steel?
Aluminum hitches have been around a long time. All you have to do is know the ratings. As long as you tow within those you're good to go.
Do you know what size hooks you have on your trailer safety chains. The new Ford hitch design has got a lot of people perplexed on how to hook up safety chains. Apparently there are a lot of hooks without the depth to fit through the hole and still latch.
They are marked G70 5/16 on the hooks. The problem with some of the hooks is not that the hook is not large enough, it's that the safety latch is too long. I just watched a video on the Fast Lane Truck on a F250 going over the Ike Gauntlet where the guy showed the problem. The hooks on that trailer fit fine but the safety clasp would not close. There's a simple and easy fix and that is to simply shorten the safety clasp. Some folks use a dremel or a hacksaw to cut off a quarter inch of length. Then the hook fits over and the clasp closes fine. My video shows how the hooks work with shorter clasps and there's no issue. There clearly are variables out there in the trailer hook making industry.
Thanks, I saw that fix on the Ford-Trucks forum. Guess I'll have to pull out the sawzall and shorten the latches, but first I need long enough chains. Moving the hook up point back the two or three inches they did from the previous Super Duty means my chains are just a bit short.
really nice truck, love it!
Thanks. It's awesome.
My receiver adapter has a flange, Ford really wasn’t thinking were they
You put the adapter on the hitch then in.😐 sick truck
What size drop do you recommend with the 17 Super duty if i was towing a little utility trailer (6x10)? I was looking at a 6", but would that be enough?
A quick rule of thumb is to take whatever you were using before and add two inches of drop. My trailers worked fine with a 6 inch drop hitch on my 2011 but I need a 8 inch drop to keep the trailers level with the 2017. Ball height on the Weigh Safe with a 8 inch drop and OEM wheels & tires will be 18 inches off the ground. On my truck it is 19 inches off the ground due to the larger tires. Go measure the top off the tongue on your lowest trailer and use that as a reference.
Are you selling your old hitch? I’d like to buy it if you don’t have any more use!
May have ask this on one of your earlier videos, what's your thoughts on adding a Biocide to the fuel tank of a 6.7 diesel, love the air lift system had one installed on my F350, now added an auxiliary fuel tank in the bed and always use the cetane booster, your videos got me under the truck to do a oil & fuel filter change also purchased the quick release oil plug. Keep them coming
I think the diesel fuel should be as little messed-with as possible. The 30,000 psi fuel pump depends on quality fuel and most additives do little if any good and some can do serious harm. Cetane booster? Sure, but anything that emulsifies water would be a big no no.
When you get a moment take a look at Transfer Flow, Inc for tanks I purchased their system and love the automatic transfer and monitoring of the process. So far so good. Thanks Again
I don't know anyone who has one that doesn't like it.
I just picked up a new F350 crew cab platinum short bed Super Duty like yours and it came with a 2.5" class 5 hitch with a 15,000 lb rating. Did yours come with the 3" hitch from the factory or is that something that you changed after you received it? What is the load rating on your hitch? Thanks!
Ford put the 3" receiver on the early 2017s but changed back to 2.5 inch after a little while. The 3" is rated 20,000 lbs with 2,000 lb tongue weight if memory serves.
@@EpicCowlick Thank you for the information! I'll have to look into that some more and see about getting a 3" hitch for m truck.
So does needle keep bouncing as you drive down the road?
Good question. I suppose it does as the dynamic load changes with the vertical momentum over bumps in the road. It would be interesting to see the load change when going over some good freeway rollers. I wouldn't be surprised to see it vary by several hundred pounds.
I have the same hitch but it started leaking and it has now lost all its hydroponic pressure abilities and gauge no longer works..now it's just an every day plain ole hitch.
Contact WeighSafe. They have been great at warrantying failed units.
Surprised that the truck can take that much weight without breaking
Lol. Truck regularly pulls a 18,000 lb fifth wheel with zero problems. It's a beast.
What's the height from the ground to the bottom of your receiver hole now?
19 inches from the ground to the base of the receiver.
good job with the boy :)
Is that the 6" drop or the 8 "? Not sure which one to get for my 17 Super Duty?
That's an 8 inch drop.
Great video. Thanks
Hope you got a good lock on it
Good advice but I never leave the hitch in the receiver when not pulling a trailer. It goes under the back seat. It's been in heavy use for two seasons and is working great!
@@EpicCowlick good deal man love the truck I have 2012 king ranch
Any update on this? Online reviews seem to have a lot of fails at the gauge (maybe seals). @EpicCowlick
Mine works the same as day one. I use it every couple of weeks. I don't leave it on the truck when not in use and I also separate the ball from the base every now and then to clean it out. I can see how the scale might fail if road salts and grime build up.
Great video on Weigh Safe hitches. I researched online and viewed your vid which helped me to decide to get one. Got the 2.5" 8" drop version. Great quality safety device. I have a Reese Elite 25k 5th Wheel along with the factory receiver (allowing for 20k 5th wheel or 15k trailer tow capacities with the 3.55 gearing).
Bought the truck for our new to RVing this summer, and deciding on 5th Wheel or tow behind toy hauler, leaning towards the Winnebago Spyder 29KS or the Scorpion 3480. Seeing as you also have a toy hauler, interested in your feedback in general re the F350 towing performance and 5th vs hitch pull or videos.
Funny thing though is that I didn't realize you had the 2017 F350 Platinum until I later happened across your tire spacer video (as I'm looking to increase my tire size on OEM wheels as well) for my 17 F350 Platinum.
How are the Toyo's working and the spacers?
Keep up the interesting vids.
All good questions. I'm really enjoying the Weigh Safe hitch. Great to have a single solution for all different ball sizes and have the scale feature too. It's just an awesome product. As to the 5th wheel vs tag trailer, they really are two different animals. A 5th wheel is extremely stable and easy to pull especially in windy conditions. You have to learn to swing wider on turns but that's about the only negative I can think of. It's a huge upgrade over a ball hitch for longer or heavier trailers.
The wheel spacers are not a long term solution. They do give just a little extra clearance and that's great but it's difficult to center the wheel on only 1/8th inch of hub. It's easy to be a little out of balance which you can feel on the freeway. I've put the spacers on the shelf and adapted to the rubbing. It only happens on full lock so it's not a problem for me. The Toyo RT's are a great compromise between AT's and MT's. I just got back from a 5,100 mile towing trip and they worked great. They also worked very well in some deep sand and over rocks in Moab. They're my new goto model.
EpicCowlick
Thanks for your quick feedback. I look forward to using the Weigh Safe. Also thanks for 5th vs tow insight.
It's a shame the spacers didn't work out. I really like the Toyo's so I may make due with rubbing near lock just as you are. Sorry, should have asked how Toyo's are working for you in the snow in winter?
Again thanks for your feedback.
I've heard there is a 37/11.50 size available which would clear all suspension parts even at full lock. I'm planning to try that size next time around. These tires did really well in the snow last winter. They were brand new so maybe that's part of it. This year will be the best test of ice and snow.
EpicCowlick
WOW! Good to know. I'll certainly try the slightly narrower versions. Great tip.
How's the tank size on that ? Any chances of you putting a titan like the last truck ? You running a steering stablizer on that with 37s and is it leveled
Tank is 34 gallons which is 6 gallons bigger on the 2017. I haven't heard if Titan is planning a 50 gallon tank but I will do it if they do. 1.5 inch level with no extra stabilizers. I am going to put better shocks on to accommodate the heavier tires.
EpicCowlick right on keep
Up the videos!
Criss cross the safety chains.
post a video of that truck actually pulling something other than what my lawnmower can pull. love the truck just want to see it work.
We'll get some video of it pulling 20,000 lbs this summer. No worries.
When are you going to tow your 5th wheel
Already have and the truck is amazing.
put the pin in part way into the adapter so it won't slide. think.
Just a little exaggeration for good theater. Humor, it's a good thing.
Love your videos !
Thanks
I just got a 2018 f350 4x4. I am trying to decide between the 6in and the 8in drop. Is your truck at the stock height and tire size?
The new versions hitch is higher off ground. About 1.5 inches in stock config. I found that going from a 6 inch to an 8 inch drop was just right. This truck is leveled 2.5 inches and I have 37/12.50/20 tires.
EpicCowlick Thanks for the reply! Dang... I just ordered the 8 inch drop. Lol that isn't going to be too long with a heavy trailer for me is it?
There's so many variables, it's hard to tell. I have the 8 inch and in my case I use the lowest setting all the time. If it came down even two full inches it would still have plenty of clearance when towing. If you end up with a lot of sag, airbags will fix you right up!
EpicCowlick Righr on! Thanks! Now I just need Ranch Hand to hurry up on the adapter for their Horizon Front bumper. Haha I have adaptive cruise control which won't work with that bumper. They said they will be realising the adapter soon.
Protip: insert pin into adapters part way so they cant move.
DoublePro: that sweet ass new hitch that is the correct size.
Lol, thanks. Just messing with the kid. He figured it out eventually.
Oh yea that'll get the job done! Do you think it will drag off road much? How much did it set ya back Epic? Rutcutter
why do you cross the chains?
If crossed, the chains will catch the tongue of the trailer and hold it off the road if the trailer becomes unattached. If not, the trailer tongue will go instantly to the road and can catch on any irregular surface.
The weight on a trailer should always be right above the trailer axles.
That may be true on some trailers but is not always true for all trailers. If placement over the trailer axles does not leave enough weight on the hitch, the trailer will become dangerously unstable at speed. Trailer sway is controlled primarily by make sure there is proper weight on the hitch. ruclips.net/video/i2fkOVHAC8Q/видео.html
Is that 3” receiver stock on your truck?
Ford made it that way on the first 6 months of the new model's production and then reverted back to the 2.5. There are some models that have the 3" but it's not across the board anymore. It's kind of a unicorn feature.
What's the max drop on that hitch, I have a F350 2017 I'm thinking about an 8" just in case.
That's what I have. My previous truck worked with a six inch drop with all my trailers but this truck is 2 inches higher. So it's easy math to say I need an 8 inch drop. 10 inches would just be too much and would likely drag.
Thanks man. Nice Truck.
You put the sleeve on first City boys. And it’s a 2.5in there isn’t a 3in
Michael 23 This is one of the early 2017s that had the 3 inch receiver. Note the two sleeves that reduce to 2.5 and then to 2 inches. No problem though. I was just messing with him. He kind of played it up a but.
That is a nice hitch hell they even should make a law that hits you should all look like that. Lol
Cross Chain your safety chains... if the trailer ever popped off the X acts as a cradle to catch the tung of the trailer......Sheeeeesh
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@@TeuvoJones well at least I gave the reason why.
Lol, the struggle is REAL!!!
I am interested in this hitch for my 2017 did you go with the 8 inch drop or the 10 inch?
I went with the 8 inch drop. A good rule of thumb is that whatever you were using before on the previous version super duty this one is 2 inches taller. If you were using a 6 inch drop with all your trailers before, the 8 inch drop is what is needed for the 2017.
Thanks for the advice!
Come on kid, hurry it up already.
What do u do for a living
I'm looking at buying one of these. Was it worth the $$
I've used mine a lot and it works great. I've heard of some complaints that the scale fails but in every case people leave the hitch in full time. Dirt and grime collecting between the ball and base will eventually gum it up. I keep my hitch under the back seat and use it only when I'm actually towing.
You said 6" drop on your trailer. How did you figure that out so quick?
Mostly because I've pulled that trailer quite a bit and I already know what height it needs to be level. This 2017 Ford is fully 2 inches higher than the 2011 and on that one I used a 4 inch drop for this trailer. So, easy math, 6 inch drop with the Weigh Safe hitch. I have another enclosed trailer that is even lower and I use the full 8 inch drop for that one.
Hello, if you were to purchase again, would you go with the 10". Also how many inches is it from the top of the receiver to the ground? And how many inches from the bottom of the weigh safe to the ground (clearance)? Lastly, do you notice any difference not using a weight distributing hitch (I know ford says not required with 3" hitch)? Thanks in advance, I ordered the same truck (10-18 week wait) and I can't find this info anywhere.
Good questions. It's 25 inches from the ground to the top of the receiver and 14 inches to the bottom of the adjustable shank. Be aware that I have 37/12.50/20 tires which raise the truck about 1.25 inches higher than the OEM Michellins. I have no need for a 10 inch drop even with my lowest trailer. I haven't pulled a tag trailer with a weight distributing hitch for several years so I can't really speak to that question. I have read reports from other owners that the truck does very well without it but many still use anti-sway devices just for extra precaution.
I just got a 2017 F250 in January. It is stock height (23” from ground to top of receiver). My Dump Trailer wants to be at 18” to be level, (5” Drop). I think I’m going to go with 6” Drop Version. How long is the adjustable section on the 8” Drop you have? Thanks in advance! Great videos and I liked the Drone section!
Does 3inch fit every truck?
The new Ford Super Duty is the only truck I know that uses the 3 inch receiver and not all of them have it. You want to make sure you measure your receiver to be certain.
nice video.
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