NYPD to Innocent Business Owners: Give Up Your Rights or Get Shut Down
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2016
- You can help the Institute for Justice help Sung Cho and others like him fight for Constitutional rights: ij.org/sungcho.
UPDATE: ij.org/press-release/class-ac...
When undercover NYPD officers offered to sell stolen electronics to customers at Sung Cho’s laundromat, near the northern tip of Manhattan, Sung never imagined the sting operation could be used as a pretext to shut down his business. But that’s exactly what happened. Attorneys for the city threatened Sung with eviction merely because a “stolen property” offense had happened at his business.
The city presented Sung with a choice: See his business shut down or sign an agreement giving up constitutional rights-including his Fourth Amendment right to be free from warrantless searches of his business. Faced with the imminent closure of his laundromat, Sung had no real choice but to sign.
In New York City today, this experience is all too common. Under New York City’s so-called nuisance eviction ordinance-more appropriately termed a “no-fault” eviction ordinance-residents and business owners can be evicted simply because their home or business was the site of a criminal offense. Under the ordinance, the identity of the criminal offender is irrelevant. You can be evicted because a total stranger (or a friend or family member) decided your home or business was a good place to commit a crime.
City attorneys churn out no-fault eviction filings by the hundreds, relying on form templates and little more than NYPD officers’ say-so that the targeted home or business was the site of a crime. In many cases, the “proof” of the alleged criminal offense is an affidavit from an NYPD officer relaying vague allegations from unnamed confidential informants.
Moreover, under the ordinance, occupants of the home or business can be evicted without any notice. After being summarily evicted, occupants have just days to put together a case to persuade a judge to undo the eviction order.
City attorneys routinely offer to drop these no-fault eviction proceedings if occupants agree to waive their constitutional rights. Some, like Sung, are forced to sign agreements waiving their Fourth Amendment rights. Others are forced to sign agreements barring family members from the home-including family members who have not been accused of any crime.
Now, Sung is joining with other victims of the city’s conduct to bring a federal class action lawsuit challenging the city’s no-fault eviction ordinance. If the lawsuit is successful, past waivers of constitutional rights will be declared unenforceable and, going forward, this practice will be put to an end once and for all.
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There wouldn't have been any illegal activity if undercover cop's hadn't created it. This is entrapment
Yep..corrupt cops with lazy and corrupt lawyer's..hence the let's settle this with a plea agreement,
because I don't want to take on the city or police force or they'll come after me next.
No, this is the U.S
Yes it is. Don’t let them in!!!!
Of course. They do this all the time, engineer an issue then come to the rescue. Police forces are hiding places for criminals.
Same as female cops pretending to be hookers. 100% entrapment!
"Finally, on October 5, 2020, they succeeded when the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York approved a settlement order barring the city from enforcing all past settlements extracted in no-fault eviction cases. Now, all New York City residents and business owners are protected from no-fault eviction settlements coerced by the NYPD."
Thank you for the update.
Thank you.
@@FixTechStuff just part & parcel for living in a place controlled by judeo-commies
UPDATE: He lost in the district courts and then appealed to the circuit court and they took his case. The circuit court VOIDED the previous decision made by the district courts and they are going to proceed with further hearings! Looks like this is going in the right direction! :)
Big G, thanks for the update. I love to see the corrupt go down! It really makes my day.
So glad to hear this. It’s terrible that police, political officials and government agencies can break the law and rob hardworking citizens of their livelihood. I hope he wins!
What is happening now, this started 7 years ago
In New York there is only 1 direction that is correct - any direction leading from it.
If interested, you can familiarize yourself with the experience of Louis Rossmann
Keep voting democrat. It seems to be working.
If I sell stolen goods at the police department will they shut it down?
Respect My Authoritah No but best believe you’ll be getting the maximum sentence they can hand out without forgiveness.
Bwahahaha
I bet it's also legal for them to sell heroin & crack cocaine for do- nuts
They sell dope for Do-Nuts
The best comment ever..
So if an undercover cop decides to sell stolen property at a starbucks, then that starbucks has to shut down, right?
Starbucks has the money and power to fight off their bs, the little guy does not.
No, Starbucks has the Power To Fight Back....
Starbucks is too big to fail.
No Starbucks is part of the mafia
@@eddiewood6239 That means the police can get more $
Sounds like a power move. Someone with money wants his space.
Verry possible
Probably Trump
dplocksmith91 what would trump do with a random corner in new york
@@dplocksmith91 orange man baaaaaaaad 🐑
dplocksmith91 fuck off soyboy
This is criminal extortion . The city is bullying you
Stevey wonder can see that..
@@terrytimberlake8926 what an ignorant comment
@@terrytimberlake8926 So could Ray Charles if he were still alive
@@terrytimberlake8926 Best quote ever!
Criminals with a badge that's who they are
Drug test them cops. I bet they smoke dope on a regular basis.
what would be fun would be to find out the exact item they try to sell as stolen an with quick hands exchange it with something actually stolen and then have the so called po lice charged with selling stolen property . problem solved . :))
@@carmichaelmoritz8662 the police were already selling property they stole, it's not a crime if "police" do it
@@springerworks002 i agree and understand why they do it the way they do it . it bothers me and yet thats the only way to prevent certain other people from buying stollen goods . i use to know lots of so called law abiding citizens that would buy stollen property . two faced people that pretend to be law abiding .
@@carmichaelmoritz8662 . . . "i use to know lots of so called law abiding citizens that would buy stollen property" - so you probably should consider to have exchanged your circle of acquaintances !
So the city is guilty of ALL the crime that happens in ANY public space.
It does make sense
Boom headshot
The city people, YESSSSSS
Makes sense under their stupid ass law
A GOOD PART OF IT
The Mafia could learn a thing or two from the NYPD.
Its not just the cops. Its the dimocrat politicians that run nyc too.
@@moncorp1 i think you find Republicans have more sway with the police unions.
@@brinjoness3386 but this is New York, one of the main nests of the notorious Liberal Leech.
Don’t feel sorry for him. Remember Peter Liang. Loads of Asians wether foreign born or native, came out to support an NYPD killer cop.
@@MrCollegeSmart way to find a way to spin this into your narrative
If the police conduct a sting operation in someone else's business, and if the owner did nothing wrong, then the police and city are out of line. It sounds like they are trying to take his property for their own benefit.
One perspective that I think other comments are missing: THIS is how a police state starts -- police effectively demanding that the citizens police each other! They're trying to turn this guy's business into nearly a police sub-station.
This is outrageous but I don't think I will be affected so I don't really care. Plus my family has ties to the police dept in NYC so they shouldn't bother me too much.
@contact Are you pro Trickle down economics or against?
@B olton just being honest. I can't do anything about this guys shop being unfairly targeted, so I'm not going to get worked up about it.
Real estate is big business
MY MAN ! THIS SHIT HAS BEEN GOING ON BEFORE " CEASER" RULED ROME !
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LIVE A TRULY PEACEFUL LIFE IS MOVE FAR AWAY FROM OTHER PEOPLE !!!!
CHEERS
TRUMP-PENCE- 2020
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Isn't that called ENTRAPMENT???!!!
The Laundry guy isn't corrupt!!!....The cops are!!!
Actually it’s blackmail, not entrapment.
It is not entrapment unless they were charging the buyer for buying the good. This is shady but not actually illegal.
City claims crime happens within his premise. Well crimes happen within the city of New York. So should New York be shut down? Governments double standard.
@Bob jones
Oh man i get it now thanks for explaining
I get it, its ok when they do it because its for the greater good of the community.
Bob jones
They were pretending to be cops. They are really criminals hiding behind their badges. They are also liars.
The sad thing is that, when he sued the city, the cops don’t pay the compensation, tax payers do
Maybe take away some of their retirement funds to pay for it.
@@brandonphillips5169 ha, there is not money in their retirement funds , politicians do not save money, they only know how to spend it, in 20 years there will be protest in every city in the country because no one is going to get their retirement money
@@r.c.8268 True
That's why it's important to sue the cops directly, under the premise of a civil rights violation by the officers themselves.
Something seems to have changed over the years with the hiring, vetting of potential officers. 🤔
Illegal activity happens everywhere shut the whole city down.
Hahahaaa
Conspired Extortion. That was a premeditated racquet.
Should get Crowd funded to sue the city. Make it public.
Meya Enyo great suggestion
This is from 2016.
Updates needed.
And everyone who works for the city individually...
@keith cunningham when you talk like that you let everyone know you're bogus...
@@thothheartmaat2833 lol, great comment.
Police can't sell stolen goods in the first place! That's called entrapment! 😡 I hope Mr. Sung sues NYC and receives a life changing sum of money!
The courts are just as crooked as the cops!
@@markflierl1624 make me laugh.... "...just as crooked... " that's where the orders come from..... Cops make less than half what a judge gets... I mean makes
Mr. Sung lost the case. It was dismissed based on Rooker-Feldman doctrine. Welcome to America!
Kind of like trying to fight the irs they spend the peoples money to f the people
@MMAbadboy Only to federal supreme court. Given how often they hear cases, chances are slim. I don't think they even filed for SCOTUS.
The enactment of a "nuisance" law--especially when it targets legal, law abiding businesses--can be debilitating and stigmatizing for that business at best and downright fascist at worst.
I am an Australian 🇦🇺 but all I can say is shame N.Y.P.D. SHAME!
These are the tactics of corrupt totalitarian states.
Whatever happened to “entrapment” laws?
Police in America fall under the classification of sovereign citizens, which is to say they are above the laws. What is is what is.
@@Youtoober22To quote your President TRUMP. “Sad, so sad.”
that's entrapment and against the law.this is text book definition of a police state.
Welcome to New York
Sounds like some connected (but corrupt) developer wants his property.
Yup! You got it!
Not just the developer corrupt. The cops and the dimocrat politicians that run nyc are too.
This could only happen in New York with the likes of a DeBlasio as Mayor.
The law they're operating under was put into place long before the current mayor. Get with it.
Frank Stein you don’t make any sense.
Lilith Demonia what are you talking about? What laws.
It’s happening ALL over the US with all different politicians. The WHOLE system is corrupt on ALL sides. Wake up.
NEGATORY !!! THIS SHIT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE WORLD !!!
ANYWHERE THERE'S HUMANS !!!!
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The entire justice system of that place has to be shut down
With this logic, they should shut down parks, because drugdealers are selling their goods there.
state and cops never used their brains, their logic was zero
Because those places are owned by the city. Of course the city won't shut it's own places down.
@@FurlowT he's just giving an example...
You think that there is not millions being kicked up to the powers that be by drug dealers all over NYC??
What about churches?
That's bullshit, the state is after his property, someone made a deal with the city and what better way to obtain real estate in NYC than having them evicted.
some big shot wants that property this man has invested alot of money file suit on the city then get the hell out of there to many rats in uniform an office...
Yup, that was my immediate thought.
Rich people dont care how many necks they have to step on to get what they want, the ends justify the means to them.
It's all about the money. So cops lie and sell stolen goods in order to get rid of the original owner so that the real estate goes to the greedy man in the shadows. I thought America was better than that. I hope justice prevails.
@@nil981 , but snapping the necks of the thugs of the crooked rich person, as well as their neck, sends a fucking message that will be hard to forget.
I'm going to donate money to Institute for Justice. You guys should be earning millions for what you do!
Please conduct the Institute of justice to help you fight this. The laundries look very clean and are very much needed by people who cannot afford in house machines
You will see more & more gestapo crap like this as time goes on...as a nation we have abandoned liberty & embraced "dark ages" principles...
Fare to say, The New Order is in full effect.
When will people wake up to Gestapo style police tactics, US police are being trained by Israelis.
Their the one's selling the stolen items so there setting people up. Thats a crime by the NYPD. And should pay restitution ×10.
LOL. Where country do you live? In US, cops can do whatever the hell they want. Mr. Sung lost his court case, so courts are on cops' side. Another interesting fact, over 90% of cop complaints (ie, killings, excessive force, etc) that go to courts are dismissed.
Unbelievable! Jealousy and corruption go together like beans and rice.
wow... you wouldn´t expect this from the land of the free, the greatest country on earth, wouldn't you?
someone should arrest the nypd for selling stolen goods.
They aren’t actually selling “stolen” anything. It’s a trap if you BUY it from them.
ISSA JOKE
That is a good point. Perhaps the police said they were selling stolen goods? I don't know how else they could arrest someone for buying something. Hey I got this gameboy I don't want anymore. You want it? 10 bucks. How would you know if it was stolen? Also, how do you know the person that bought it wasn't going to turn it in to the police?
@@chocolatewheelchair cause and effect would like a word with you
@@chocolatewheelchair
The crime is - intention to sell stolen goods .. there not stolen but then give the "intention to sell stolen goods"
Sounds like you should sue the police under the nuisance law.
Do you know what the success rate is of lawsuits against the police? Less than 2%.
What if I write a sworn affidavit that I've smoked crack inside NYPD premises? I mean, I haven't, I've never even been to the US, but it doesn't exactly seem like truth or justice or real evidence matters to these people.
how's this not entrapment and illegal and since when can police get a pass on selling stolen goods ?
Choice777, because those in power said so, and since those in power said so, respectively.
It's the city that's doing this, not the police.
The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves 😭
Rolling heck they're pounding on the box.. Let me out you stupid asses.
*Bill DeBlasio's crew hoping to strong arm you out of the business you built...*
It sounds like the city is trying to screw him over. Corruption at it's finest.
Sure does sound that way.
Pit a sign in your window that says no soliciting, even by the NYPD.
Post warning signs for the customers, telling them that there are undercover cops trying to bust people buying stolen goods. Do not fall for them!
Great idea.
This 100% was a set up. I’m so sorry this happened it is so wrong. Personally I would have gone to court with it but I absolutely understand why he settled.
Sooo glad the Institute for Justice took your case and is representing you. But equally scary to think the legal system, at no fault of your own can criminalise you and shut you down. It sounds bent and corrupt
This is blatant entrapment. Undercover officers attempted to trick customers of the laundromat into buying illicit goods by goading them with steeply "discounted" prices in order to make it enticing.
I figured someone had to be thinking same thing as myself. By no means am I a law expert, but I think that is a textbook example of what entrapment is.
Remember what Shakespeare said. Jail all the Lawyers,and set all the Criminals free!!!
Now they have access to what was a forced installation of 24/7 surveillance, for their utilization.. I'm guessing it's operates, inside & outside of his business? I've seen them pay residents or deeply discount units. They'll go & attach surveillance to their property's, where ever they need or want it positioned. I get the need for it, in some places but this was clearly forced upon him.
I'd like to know if the man declined a proposition on *his* property, from the city- prior to his legal issues? It seems like that's what they ultimately wanted. It's sad..
@@mca521980 The cops tried to do this in the small town I live in, they just put up cameras everywhere, so we got some young "hoodlums" to go in with spray paint and paint all the cameras, I should point out that the town is heavily armed, like 90% of all the adults, 4-12 guns is the norm. We told them we have the best security already, we don't need the Gestapo tactics.
Yes and No. If they attempted to charge either those purchasing the goods or the owner for the sale of said goods, then yes, those charged can claim entrapment. However, since the accusation is being a "Nuisance" they only have to claim that selling stolen goods is possible on the premises.
I don't get it. How is he suppose to prevent his customers from buying stolen goods. He has to work. He can't stand there and watch everyone.
That's why this is getting so much attention. It's criminal on the city's part and against his legal rights.
Facts but America is a shit hole and curpute country
Well isn’t that also entrapment by police? Which is illegal?
Where you make someone do something they otherwise wouldn’t have?
The police instigating the illegal encounter, not a customer coming up and asking.
@@dregamingsecurity4969 *corrupt
Vegan Lobo:
Got a quote saying he doesn't believe in science? And, no, "man-made global warming" doesn't count.
Follow the potential money. Who wants that property so bad??
Entrapment is the bread and butter of law enforcement
The police sold stolen goods????? So put those cops behind bars. That's against the law.
Not for cops. We are lucky if any rules apply to them.
By the way does anyone know if they finally won this? I looked it up but last year it was still going.
Amen
@@theresahall8206 It's still ongoing, update here: ij.org/ll/april-2019-volume-28-issue-2/the-long-and-winding-road-to-legal-victory/
That's also "entrapment."
How is it that police officers have “stolen” goods in their possession in the first place? Isn’t THAT a crime?
“Innocence is not a defense.”. Says it all.
It's a shocking indictment of any legal system, statute, ordinance or council order. Anything that any lawyer, solicitor or judge might've seen should pass that very low bar of legal protection. Being innocent should be a defense. If you're innocent until proven guilty, but innocence is no defense then you're always (in jeopardy of being) guilty.
And it became far, far worse under Obama, and Hillary would of been worse than even Obama!
They want a war but they forget they’re severely outnumbered.
@Zionism toHell you couldn't possibly be anymore dumb then to make a unsubstantiated stupid remark like the one you just made here.
You dont know do ya?
Put up a sign telling customers that undercover police operate in your store occasionally and to not buy anything that someone is selling for a too sweet deal. They will be arrested.
Long Island Audit is doing amazing work in New York and all across America
Is happened near a sidewalk. So the government "provided space for illigal activity".
The fucking government performed the illegal activity!
I know it meant to be sarcastic. The point is that an establishment for crime would be different from a place where crime commonly happens.
Fight them sir, you are what the American dream is all about. Good luck to you and your family.
2:21 He's not telling the whole story. Look at the sign at 2:21.
Looks like he's operating a Rub 'n' Tub in the back room or basement.
I'm glad Mr. Cho is now going to court. I wish him every success! Shame on the actions of the NYPD and this ridiculous misuse of the nuisance law.
Nice to see the cops spread the love. It's one case though. ...Also odd that they require giving up rights in order to setttle.
If they're approaching people and trying to sell them stolen goods, then arresting them if they do, that's a clear case of entrapment.
kettch777 you should never be arrested for purchasing stolen goods unless you are explicitly told "I stole this and want to sell it to you"
It's not my responsibility in the least to find out prior to purchase if something is stolen or not.
I say defend your life with deadly force if necessary when this occurs.
Instructor I think it depends on the actual circumstances. If, while doing your laundry, you are approached by a total stranger, who out of the blue tries to sell you something, say some latest and greatest electronic gizmo that sells in stores for $900 and they are selling it for $200, I think not being prudent about the situation, like finding out its history, could make you culpable in the eyes of a judge.
Unfortunately, that isn't how entrapment works. Even if the police make the initial offer, it is not entrapment merely because the person wouldn't have agreed otherwise. Police have to do far more to entrap people under the law.
Instructor I protect myself by asking for a receipt of purchase and a bill of sale with thumbprint. This deters most...
Zachary Zhou We’ll let the courts determine the difference. But let’s draw a line between offering or selling guns to a known gun runner and randomly offering to sell an iPad to people in a laundromat. Are you trying to arrest a known offender by your actions or ensuring otherwise honest people who fall for a too good to be true deal. And then using that to arrest someone not in any way linked to that entrapment? If this isn’t conspiracy or any of another charges, I don’t feel good about America any more. In fact everything that the Democrats have been doing recently makes me feel concerned about the future of the US and I am not a Republican.
"My innocence was not a defense" - wow.
So any business, any McDonald's, any 7-Eleven parking lot, any pre-school playground could be the scene of a crime and the owners will be charged?
Thing is they only go after small and medium business because big businesses can actually afford to fight them in court.
Not only that but big companies also can pay A LOT OF MONEY to the city and the TAX collected from them is insanly high so why would they shut it down ...
@@vitvit13 Yup.
The Feds seized 14 churches and 23 schools last month.
C'mon. It's totally ridiculous the power the federal government has over all of us. That's why we need President Trump! For every new law, eliminate seven.
(Just kidding about the seizures, but you get the point)
they are not going to take on those bigger companies because they have to much money to fight back! This is sad
God bless you Sir! Hope everything works out..
Any update on this case? I see the link in description on 2018 update that this lawsuit can proceed but any update since 2018?
seems like he is being set up, poor guy.
NYPD is famous for being extremely corrupted... Sometimes I think Chicago, L.A., NY and Detroit battle for most corrupt title.
Sounds like the "fire insurance" that a gang would sell.
Competitors must gave some money to the police.
@Hyper Borea lmao
You can pretty much safely bet that someone in City Hall has an investor friend interested in the building and wants the "problem tenants" evicted so they can get on with building $5M and up condos.
Big business gets regulations removed while small business gets regulations increased.
Paul Faber thank the Democratic Party.
@@latebarz thank both parties. Both of are filled with corporatists. That's the problem with big government, it stifles competition and enables things like corporate welfare, and overpriced healthcare and education. Neither party wants to curtail the government to originally intended role.
@@crazyahhkmed
Nope, if you look at who created the bullshit regulations.
It's Democrat. Especially on bullshit Local/State Government Regulations and Stupid Taxes.
Just follow the paper trail..
So yeah, "the both parties" perspective changes if you actually look into the paperworks..
You're confusing state extortion with federal regulation.
@Frank Stein - LOL, I hear ya. All too often I see and hear people yell at the Fed's for what the State is doing to them. The Fed's have systems in place to help us keep our State gov't in check, but people don't know about them. They don't think to even look because...well they are busy yelling at the wrong people for the wrong reason, and armed with interpretation rather than facts.
😂😂😂 Brilliant! Brilliant! I love Americans' sense of humor. This isn't found anywhere else in the world. Never ever have I seen such a genre of 'dark humor'. Kind of understatement. I thought Mr Bean is funny. But this is hilarious.
Is this a SNL type of programme? Strange humor but I suppose people and countries have different kinds of humor. Will definitely get used to it. Must say it is very funny. It is an original kind of humor that I've never seen before. Not the slapstick kind of humor associated with the US. The actors are very convincing. Very very good acting. No overacting. Dark humor?
Thanks!
I can't wrap my head around this. It seems like harassment and a shake down by the NYPD. I can't help with money but you have my subscription.
This should be a RICO case against the city police, its more than mere entrapment. Definition of a racket: They caused a problem and then offered to solve it for a price... RICO!!!!
whats rico?
It's not just the police, its the dimocrat politicians that control nyc too.
@When The Levee Breaks its also been used against goverment before if i belive correct the palm beach police department or something in florida was so corrupt they ricod them and shut it all down.
@When The Levee Breaks oh ok thank you
It's all a game that they want you to bring to THEIR COURT to play with rackets... Your right...
Looks like he forgot to pay his protection money.
Extortion under color of law is still extortion.
Rules restrictions HOAs city ordinances, they sign it one day the next day it's law ,
oh and there's the one every week they site you or every month we increase and charged interest the same thing, double guilty sgain and again whatever they call it but it's the same thing or just keep racking it up.
Same or some HOAs reciting people for not having beautiful green yards and it was a drought with water restrictions :(
A my apologies people spell check keeps getting me
Yeah, well said.
Sounds like a ‘I want your money’ law.
I 100% agree. Them's the rules.
For example, if a bank is robbed, the bank should be fined / shut down as it is conducive to bank robberies.
Also if people don't pay the full fare at a railroad station, the station should be closed.
Hopefully, any crimes that take place in a police station should mean that the police station should be closed down.
Once the law is applied equally to all, I bet it won't be long before the law is changed!
Sounds like the city wants that space for something else.
Probably. If a successful small business is in place, and the city wants to approve an even more successful medium to large business to occupy that area, they'll do whatever is necessary to get the small business to leave. In Dearborne, MI, small businesses were forced out of strip malls by insane rent amounts to allow for businesses of a certain religion to move in. A few years back in Central Wisconsin, a successful farm was forced to give up their land so that the new high school could be built. Trying to buy the business' property with a generous offer is step one. Then it's raise rent/taxes if legally possible. Next they look at if the business has a crime problem. And finally when all else fails, eminent domain is pulled where the local government gives the business a certain amount of money and tells them they need to either relocate or shutdown altogether.
GeneralChangOfDanang a mosque
@@deeznutz8300 racist you're full with shit, go treat your Islamophobia
Exactly! ! The set the whole thing up from start to finish
Liberal Utopia
A laundromat is a shared space. Anyone can walk in and do whatever they please. No one can stop an individual from doing what they are determined to do. This is clearly entrapment. How is a business owner liable for every single action taken place on site? That's like saying the city mayor is responsible for all the crime taking place in his/her jurisdiction. Ridiculous.
Well actually it's very simple and people need to stop over thinking it. Keep stuff simple and you'll have a better understanding of things instead of always using a racist or sexist statement. So here I will attempt to bring this down to scale you can understand then return to this unfortunate situation. You as a parent own a house that makes you responsible for that property. If your kid starts smoking weed in your house(God forbid) you as the parent are responsible for this going on in your house. Now if your kid starts selling from your house that's even worse. No it is not you the parent that's smoking and selling but you are responsible for this space and the kid so by default blames goes to you the parent. Why? Because you are the owner of this "Safe Haven" were these people come and conduct criminal activity. So that makes you accountable for it as well because you are not selling or buying but you're not doing anything to prevent the criminal activity either. So here we have a business owner that has and establishment where criminal activity is taking place and he does nothing(maybe because he doesn't know or maybe he did) there by creating a "safe haven" for criminal activity hence he know becomes accountable. If he knew then shame on him for not reporting or placing a sign in and out of the store stating "do not do this" or something like that. If he didnt know then shame on the customers that did not report this to him. We as citizens are more responsible than people want to believe for the down turn of our neighborhoods because many see crimes and fail to report it due to "Snitches gets stitches" or a "Fuck the police mentality!"(which is funny cause what will you do when you actually need them karma is a mofo). The same way we the parent is responsible for that single property is the same way we as residents of a complex, city, state or better yet this country are responsible for it. Where ever you live when you look outside ask yourself is it someone from another living complex, city, state or country fucking it up or is it the actually the people that are from that complex, city, state or country. Harsh reality check people. This is also why poor neighborhoods remain that way the mentality of these people is messed up thats why certain businesses refuse to be in certain areas the liability when stuff happens in these places isn't worth the risk. What the cops did is no different than a parent dressed like someone else and attempting to trick their kid. The "good customers" failed that test and bought stolen stuff other customers and maybe the owner saw customers buying stolen stuff and didnt report it themselves or to the owner now the good owner gets slapped and these customers are mute. If I was him I wouldve sold it and left because me as the owner trying to help these people got me screwed. We need to cut all this politics bullshit and start to realize we on a small scale are terrible people when we improve that only then will things actually become better. Btw yes the mayor is also accountable because he is in charge of the city which means all bullshit that goes down in his/her city that you the people placed him/her in charge of is to blame. If we were better residents of our complex, city, state or country these bullshit rules wouldnt exist to begin with but we like fucking shit up there by having the person in charge be it the owner of the property, city, state or country come up with these harsh punishments. Just like that kid who was selling and smoking in the parents as a parent I bring down that Ass wiping on that kid harsh punishment depending on who you speak with but it had to be done to correct the situation.
It is sad what happened to this man and unjustified but this law predated his business and only exist because the people of New York couldn't be of good moral character in the first place now he came in and felt that hospitality of the people of the city and got slapped with a very harsh punishment indeed because of other peoples doings. If we as people really want to do something about this injustice let's start with our damn selves first cause its injustice to me and my unborn kids having to live in a world that we are constantly fucking up.
it sucks but this is America. Someone falls on your property because a homeless person comes in and spills water... you are liable. In America, the consumers are #1. What the city should've done was to pass an ordinance that requires 24/7 security or surveillance for all new businesses and not send undercover cops to entrap this business owner. In California, all commercial properties are required to give ramp access to the elderly and handicapped... so you will get fined if you have stairs to a business and no ramps.
@@DxModel219 true but this isn't an American issue is what I'm try I'm not to explain hence why I said city, state or country lol. You are right maybe the city should have 24/7 security/surveillance but why only new businesses. This can happen at well established businesses aswell. Who would be paying for this anyways the business owners or the city? If the business owner that's some bullshit on it's own. If it's the city that tell you something is seriously wrong with the residence of that city because if the residence has to pay for 24/7 security/surveillance at businesses they have no shares in thats a waste of my tax money. Not only that but we could just be surveillance ourselves and just report these things and save on taxes. Not to mention 24/7 security/surveillance will be looked at as a form of invasion of privacy lol. All avoidable by being better human beings period. If we were better people we wouldnt need to pay for services we can get for free
iOneWingedAngel1, I totally agree with you! #1 The City should provide 24/7 surveillance cameras on all streets, intersections, parks, ALL PUBLIC AREAS!! Drugs and crime are committed right on their streets and they are not accountable but they penalize business owners instead! It's nothing but a shake-down in my opinion. I just suggested new businesses because atleast new owners would know what to expect when they apply for a new license. I would EVEN go a step further and say the City should implement A.I. and facial recognition surveillance in high crime areas atleast. We have the technology to identify gun shots and scope out criminals. I been to New York once... they had about 2-3 cops every block just to give PARKING TICKETS!! it's ridiculous.
@@DxModel219 Here is a question everyone should ask themselves: Would you vote for a government that watches you 24/7 that uses facial recognition to identify you(fun fact yes we do have the technology to do that but we are human any and everything we make will be used for good and bad example we made cellphones I can now talk to a friend while on the go but the thieves can also text and say the cops are 3 blocks down jump through the back window lol also the technology is there to also spoof faces. If you think wrongful imprisonment is bad now if we go that route we are screwed)? That is beyond invasion of privacy. The hilarious part would be let's say current US president trump said that he would implement that. Can you imagine the outrage in the USA? Lol would be a fun news coverage. Funny thing is I wonder if previous president Obama said it if their would be the same outrage? Talk about people having biases. Same thing was said yet because it's someone different people get upset. 24/7 surveillance of the residents/citizens of any city, state or country by a governing body is invasion of privacy. It's also a cruel and harsh punishment(just like what that shop owner faces now) because we the people fucked up. We have to start being better people. If we are better people we have better leaders(Democracy it's me and you who go into office not some destine/divine person) who make better decisions for us all. Here's another question for you. Why is it that most section 8 people have so many kids? #1 they ain't the ones paying for the kids its every other tax payer that's working hard while they leech and get more kids. 2# majority of these kids are getting a free education that again every other tax payer is paying for and these kids arent learning. Talk about home grown terrorism lol. Are you telling me these people dont/cant realize they shouldnt have kids cause they are bringing them in a loosing situatuon in a bad neighborhood where yet again the residents of that complex, city, state or country are setting very bad examples for them? It sounds dumb but that's the reality that none of these people will admit. Broke like a joke and 4-6 kids that you me and everybody else but these parents of these kids paying for their food stamps and their education(which many dont want/use) just so they can eventually rob our homes or get my business sanctioned like the guy in this video. Like I said cruel and harsh punishment always follows because we fail to be better people. Do you know what the answer to that section 8 problem is? Its yet another cruel and harsh punishment: "If your income is not up to a certain amount you are barred from having kids period!" but you know what they will still do it so the government would step it up to the level of "And you will have to under go a hysterectomy". That way we now no longer have that problem. Now imagine current president Trump saying that again yet another outrage moment lol. What if previous president said it would it be the same outrage? I dont know. So now we will live in a world where we are surveillance 24/7 by the government and our right to have kids are gone. So no privacy and no right to have kids. You cant have privacy and security at the same time if we want security then our privacy has to be taken away. If that is where we are as the human race then we are very far up shits creek. How will all that be avoided? Again we have to start being better people. I've been to New York as well place is was not a comfortable feeling not because of the cops but because the mere fact they needed cops on every corner.
I was going to say that he should put up HUGE signs for his customers that if anyone offers to sell them goods at discounted prices in or around his store that they are probably undercover cops. Of course then they would probably arrest him for interfering with an investigation.
This is Americanism Nonsense! So sorry for Laundromat Operator.
Policing in America over my lifetime has been increasingly going down the road of George Orwell's 1984
If you see that, now think about smart phones and smart tv's.
@@hoppingrabbit9849 The greatest tragedies committed against us are to our minds and spirits, not our bodies.
Everyone needs to keep their cameras rolling tho.
They use them against us! We have God-given rights, and they are supposed to protect them.
And they swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States!
Its like this all over the world!!
SaltRiver Pirate You’ve noticed that also me too
I guess he needs to put up a sign saying "No Cops Allowed"
I would post “Beware of buying from undercover cops who want to arrest you.”
That would be brilliant and covered under the last amendment we still have. The first amendment.
Until he gets robbed and needs them...
The police are the robbers in this case. And what are the police going to do if he's robbed? fill out a police report.
My next door neighbor has a sign like that up. I thought he was just a nut shop till I saw this video
That is entrapment pure and simple.
HOW DISGUSTING to do this to this man. Why would police want to do this to someone? I never want to go to NY.
Create a crime because there is no real crime around. Got it. This is entrapment.
Exactly!
Sure is
NYPD is the most or pretty close to being the most corrupt PD in the US.
People need to realize that law enforcement has become more about issuing citations to generate money, hence why cops have quotas. They are already receiving money via taxpayer dollar. Stupid laws enacted to generate revenue, that's all. We the people just sit by and do nothing about it.
People should never be afraid of its government, government should be afraid of its people...
And if you do not think the criminal justice system isn't all about the money stream ask yourself why when they build another goddamn jail why do they make room, about ten times as much room, for men than room to incarcerate women.
The answer is, it costs approximately 150% more to incarcerate women than men. Also, men are more complacent about being locked up over women as well but that's really here nor there. From the get go, if you're a guy, you're pretty much screwed because it hurts their bottom line to house a woman. It has very very very little to do with justice and whether or not you did anything wrong and more to do with their freaking bottom line, *PERIOD* .
Quotas are illegal buddy.
@@nickvslife2013
No. Quotas are needed for example to satisfy the budget for public defenders almost everywhere with traffic violations for example. The goddamn police these days are merely tax collectors with badges and guns.
@@kirkthiets2771 Quotas are illegal. Use your dollar tree law degree on something else. You clearly don't know what your talking about.
I simply can't believe the injustice that has & is still happening to this hard working self made business man, I'm nearly speechless. Thank God the justice league has taken this up so this gentleman has support. He must have been beside himself with worry for his employees & his family. Where is the common sense here???
Look who is behind these attacks. Spiritual wickedness in high places. Im so sorry you were targetted. God bless.
OUT RIGHT ENTRAPMENT IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF LAW …..ENTRAPMENT Penal Law § 40.05 (Effective September 1, 1967)
So it's violation, I vaguely remember seeing a documentary with teenager helping the police trap cool people that accepted to buy alcohol for them.
I would love to hear city's defense.someone wants this mans property i bet.
Helping Sung is pretty easy with just some good advice. Get out of New York State any way and as fast as you can! It will still take several years for them to run out of ways to try and penalize and or extort you for cash, but you’ll be out of their control.
Such a miscarriage of justice! I imagine one or two up and coming law-enforcement persons undertook this action merely to make a name for themselves in the legal system. I wish this man had fought this fight through the courts rather than agree to the terms they put down. This case should be moved to the Federal level and re-opened under the Civil Rights Act as a violation of the Constitutional rights to privacy of the customers using the facilities. The surveillance system is not for the use of the business so much as it is there to facilitate private citizens doing honest everyday activities.
Sue the State Of N,Y, City Under Wrongful Prosecution, an Malicious Prosecution, an 1970 Rico Act
He could do that. He just needs to have the balls to spend some real Money and hire a kick ass Law firm. NYC could very likely end up paying this business owner a huge settlement .This is Harassment at its finest.
Sounds like an eventual Supreme Court case.
Call us “Civil Servants” sincerely, your Overlords.
infuriating.
So according to this law, the city HAS to sue itself when they catch a drug dealer or what not on the street. The streets are "owned" by the city, so by the logic of that law, they are facilitating crimes. Love the logic behind this all...
This was clearly entrapment !! 😡
Many law enforcement agencies are no longer about crime fighting or public protection. They are about cash seizure and revenue generation. NYPD has a long history of being the citation police. Their officers are expected to generate a certain amount of revenue every year.
How else are they going to fund the salaries and retirement accounts.
The real criminals are cops who commit violations and crimes everyday on duty OFF DUTY only reason these lowlifes dont have a rap sheet is because they all work for criminal enterprise aka law enforcement.... twitter.com/MyBrooklyn1
All because americans don't want to pay taxes.
Clearly you have never encounter New Orleans police - the most corrupted and evil police force in all major US cities
the police don't want to do this, this is forced on them by politicians. the same politicians you elect and protect. when you have monolithic parties, Democrat or Republican, this is what you get. even if you keep the government split, both parties become a self protecting entities and forget what their duties are. better to make small government, and keep the politicans with small power and small salaries.
thats ridiculous! as a single person Ive used laundramats for decades. over time laundramats have acquired a rep for dangerous criminal activity. the criminals know this and will hit any one of them. meanwhile, patrons are seeking clean, safe laundries. the police probably dont need to use the laundramats and just find them a traditionally easy place to fill arrest quotas. Very sorry for your situation. please keep fighting to turn this around. the police should be helping businesses stay safe for citizens to use not fining or arresting owners for having owned businesses that criminals think are easy pickings.
When law enforcement has to create crimes to punish "criminals".
Hegelian Dialectic: create a problem, incite a reaction and finally provide a solution to the problem you created in the first place.
Welcome to communist Nazi America.
@Frank Stein 9/11 was a government op, they we're telling people since the 1970s in movies, cartoons and tv shows that they were going to do it and blame it on the Muslims.
The only cure is to abolish all governments and law enforcement in America.
Sounds like something a new would do.
Like stolen goods arent sold in a Walmart parking lot or in the alley tf
Isn't the NYPD breaking a law for selling goods on private property? "Stolen" goods at that?
Can the NYPD prove that the goods that the NYPD was selling were in fact stolen by the NYPD?
Man, I just feel bad for this guy.
So if an undercover cop decides to sell stolen property at city hall, then city hall has to shut down, right? YO LETS DO IT!
This sounds EXACTLY like the type of shit that was done in the former Soviet Union 😂😂😂.
that would be *OUR* store
Yes ...Shittttt is the correct term..
YuppiBum People didn’t really own their own business in the Soviet Union, not until its dying days.
What you get when you send legitimate socialists to Congress.
It's been done in a lot of places, not just the Soviet Union. It was probably perfected long before the Soviet's existed.
That is called entrapment. The NYPD is now behaving like the GESTAPO.
As are the dimocrat politicians that control NYC. All corrupt rats.
He lives in NEW YORK. Everyone knows not to buy solicited goods from strangers on the street. The black market, contributes to the rape, murder and slavery of millions, so don't even try to SJW this shit out! If people were doing drugs, selling drugs or offering whores there, it would be the same deal. They would get shut down. Do not make excuses for that man's negligence! He absolutely knew it was not correct.
@@miastrong151 What have you been smoking? " Do not make excuses for that man's negligence!"?? How was he negligent? Seriously, how was he supposed to stop secret private deals taking place inside or worse outside of his shop? Strangers talk to strangers. Is he supposed to spy on what they are talking about? You are an Id!ot without brains nor compassion. If this had happened to you and your life's work and investments gets threatened like this, I wonder if you will still say these same words you did. Id!ot.
@@superchargerone Once you are okay with one nuisance law becoming relaxed, then, next thing you know you have welcomed whores, drug-dealers and bootleggers into every single public and private business. You have to look at the bigger picture. Do you think that such things should be allowable everywhere?
Mia Strong what???
The government using undercover entrapment to force a business owner out their business for potentially benefitting someone with connections at City Hall is likely the tragic unfairness of this case.
Mafia with badges and guns .
The police state of New York at it again. Two words for you: move out.
Seems to be the only way.
It's already happening. Recent data shows that people are moving in droves out of blue states, especially New York, into red states like Texas. Another example that progressive policies suck.
arm everyone and make it a dead police state
that's part of the story. What they bring with them is the same PROGRESSIVE mindset, Kang, so they get nostalgic for their old stomping grounds and then vote for the same progressive dimwits that made them leave their old haunts. Congratulation, I just described a parasite, pure and simple.
Detroit is a POS don't need to wait 5 hours to get an ambulance...
And... just the other day in 2019. The NYPD came out with a video whining about people harrassing their cops.
Boo hoo.
Right? They got splashed with water in the heat. Meanwhile, cops are drug running, boosting brothels, beating people, and trying to shake down businesses.
Orion's Ghost were those specific cops involved in drug running, boosting brothels, beating people, and trying to shake down businesses?
@@austin7037 Who knows? That wasn't the point, of course. The point is that getting splashed with water was getting the coverage treatment that police corruption needs to be getting. Having grown up with it, and seeing the damage it did to my neighborhood, I'm quite confident it's far more urgently needing the kind of coverage that was given to water splashing instead.
Orion's Ghost you know that provoking people, especially if they're innocent, is only going to make things worse?
You talking about the fake someone took a bite out of my McDonald's chicken chicken burger story?
"second person OUTSIDE the store got caught" but the city already has that property
You shouldn't have settled? Lawyer up!