I was assaulted by a utility worker with an ego problem. Every utility worker I've ever talked to is a big fat ego problem. Sir...you might want to check yourself.
@@dm7uy why is qualified immunity important for effective government operations? Also seeing how qualified immunity was only established 39 years ago in 1982 by the supreme Court how did the US government operate effectively for the 194 years that preceded it?
@@brianwhite167 exactly. this is america, home of insurance premiums and lawsuits. cops should have to get bonded and insured before being hired-- like my freakin roofer does. that would cut out half the 'bad apples' from getting hired or even applying. it would also refocus departments and the whole police culture towards retaining and rewarding people who are good at their jobs. their cop fraternities can put their money where their mouths are and use some of the money they get to pay premiums, instead of the taxpayers they victimize having to pay for lawsuits. they could buy a group plan- if they trust each other enough. if they get priced out of being able to afford their 'misconduct' insurance due to misconduct, buh bye. cops want to be viewed as 'professionals', but vehemently shrug off any professional responsibility for their actions. just like doctors, lawyers, etc., they should be held to a certain standard. insurance companies would ~love~ this new revenue stream.
I believe the cops have abused the qualified immunity statute like the UK cops abused their Sec. 44. UK cops would stop anyone they deemed suspicious and detained, searched and got their details under Sec. 44 of the Terrorist Act. They were out of control to the point the High Court repealed Sec 44. Qualified Immunity needs to be repealed for the same reason.
@@dm7uy "Qualified immunity says a person performing their job, as it should be performed, cant be sued. That is common sense."... except that is not at all what QI says... stop licking the boot.
I remember this case. It made big news in the twin cities. This guy who impersonated a cop and got away with it until the IFJ , a national law firm, went after him. This was a situation of a corrupt government official who had a hand in the company who lost the bid.
Source? I was wondering if the engineer was acting in good faith; trying to protect roads and infrastructure from damage from the companies trucks, making tax payers foot the bill so CSI could make more money by taking a shorter path though smaller residential areas when they could use more appropriate roads. Or, was this something else... like what you said. Can you link me to the article that shows this engineer had a vested interest in that company that was competing with CSI. Why didn't they mention that in the article? If they said it and it wasn't true they would get sued, so It makes me think that it's probably not true.
theres got to be a reason hes got it out for this particular company. some sort of connection, money, family , something. otherwise it doesnt make sense
@@atomic66 Or maybe the trucks are damaging the roads and there's another route that might be 1-2 miles longer with stronger roads? Maybe the company is greedy..
@@guyintenn That engineer is the person who sets those limits. It's possible he was acting in the best interest of tax payers. I would hope a judge looked at the situation before ruling on the qualified immunity... You know? There's a scenario where this guy was just trying to protect the public assets, and CSI's trucks were damaging the infrastructure with hundreds of deliveries, and they could have taken a safer route, but they were just interested in saving a few thousand dollars in fuel and wages. We don't have access to those kinds of details. The fact that they never said this guy was part of another company that lost the bid leads to be believe that's not true... It would be an easy law suit if they made that claim and he wasn't part of a another contractor. But this is RUclips comments... Everyone assumes the absolute worse in everything... Nothing is just the lesser of two evils... It's always a conspiracy, because that makes comments which makes for more views with makes for more money.. So, LETS SPIN THIS, AND MAKE SOME CASH!!!
I had a run in with a county engineer back in 2000. He had his guys pound a 3 ton weight limit sign ar the end of our road We operate a sawmill on. We are in Michigan and can legally haul 164k. He came to me and said, "if you give me $30k I'll take the sign down. I sent my guys home and called the local news! Signs were down in the am....
Sounds like John Large had a vested interest in another company, one that did not win the bid to do the job. He should be sued and lose for his corruption.
@@guyintenn the seeeyeaye coined the term conspiracy theory and their agents inserted into the "media" "journalists " [ mockingbird media - called operation mockingbird ] - keep spreading it Its fine if you don't want to believe it You have that choice Let me say this - you see the gold trimmed bordered flags? Well that stands for admiralty law England infiltrated immediately after the 1776 constitution Do you think they just gave up after losing??? The ONLY THING keeping us from being slaughtered is the original constitution No other country has it that why they CONTINUALLY spew gun control!!! WTFU! They and the others have been infiltrating ever since and got more control with the act of 1871 [ turned America into a corporation for them ] when Ulysses s grant [ the 18th president since 1776 ( 18 = 6+6+6 ) brought in the your a peein bankers after the civil war [ nothing civil about it ];it was all preplanned by them They gained further control in 1913 with their federal reserve [ 3rd one ] Told everyone that they had to turn in their gold for PAPER in the 30's and after doing so raised the price of gold from 20.00 to 32.00; then took us off of the gold standard under Nixon [ NIX - ON ] nix - north American [ put an end to, cancel ] if that's even his real name, probably just his stage name THEY DIDN'T CALL IT TELL-A-VISION BY ACCIDENT William J Casey ex CIA director 1981 [ azquotesdotcom ] " we'll know our disinformation campaign is successful when the American people believe everything they see on television "
As a trucker who constantly goes down "restricted" roads for local deliveries (ie, a massive boom to service a cell tower in a residential area) I would have laughed at dude and gone right on around him, or winched his truck out of the road. Even cops know local exemption exist and would just be tossed if they wrote a ticket
@@anonymousbosch9265 any easement or exemptions I always start dropping 3 letter agencies like "you wanna explain to the FCC why you're blocking the maintenance road" and they'll move their ass real quick usually
I deliver fuel and I was thinking the same thing. I would have said “show me your state issued LE ID” and when he didn’t produce it I’d be long gone. I get paid by the delivery, not by the hour. No one without an LE certificate is keeping me anywhere.
@@nitemareman1 you'd have grounds to call the cops 😆 there's a suspicious person claiming to be a government officer detaining a hazardous materials fuel load. That would be a great uno-reverse card to deal out
Thank you for taking on this responsibility and taking this to the high court. Living in Minnesota myself, I've seen more and more stories of government officials and even local officials breaking the law with no consequences. Its time qualified immunity is taken away from all.
You think that is going to happen? maybe in never land.Keep on dreaming if you think Gov officials are going to listen to. they called ordinary people among themselves and refer to citizens as peasants or useless eaters.
You can't remove qualified immunity. If your a police officer and you stop a drunk driver they can sue you. Qualified immunity is there to stop one party from burdening another unjustly with court fees, legal fees, and wasting peoples time. If you have enough money you can keep someone else in court and cost them money too even if you have no standing. Qualified immunity is there to protect people from bad actors. HOWEVER, if a judge grants someone qualified immunity when they shouldn't; like when an engineer performs a traffic stop. This should not have been granted. It should have went to court and a jury should have decided, not a judge.
@@surveysays8335 You just gave the argument for why it needs to be reset. It's used to break the law with no consequences, no one is saying a drunk driver should be able to sue the officers for doing a legal stop. Though many officers have been caught arresting drivers who did nothing wrong and were not intoxicated. These people should have the right to freely sue there captures for wrongful arrest without having a judge saying qualified immunity.
You should start a campaign to file complaints against this engineer's professional license - provide links, make it dummy proof. Until these rogue buffoons are taught a lesson by the public, nothing will change. He clearly misused his government power. Also file complaints with the HR department that hired him. Start social media campaigns - public opinion matters!
@@troyw8338 Qualified Immunity is a necessary legal remedy. It stops law suits before they begin. Let me ask you this; Let's say your a land surveyor; you go out survey an area and put in some markers and made a mistake.. Some of the drawings you were looking at weren't easy to read, you were off by 100' and it caused a major dispute between land owners. They should seek remedy from your company, but you think they should be able you sue you and take EVERYTHING you own, and everything you may ever own... Because in a court of law, you DID make the mistake. You think that's ok? What do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking I was hoping I could show you how qualified immunity protects people from personal vulnerability by doing their job.
@@Dirk_the_Daring But the people whose power depends on the insulation of their enforcers from the consequences of using force against the citizenry have no interest in it. This should be a on the ballot of every states to ratify its abolition as a Constitutional Amendment.
@@inkedbuddhist5220 Or the imaginary figure never existed to begin with. People shouldn't put a fairy tale on a pedestal and just 'hope for the best outcome'.
IA had speeding tickets issued by DOT to non-commercial drivers thrown out because the DOT cops didn't have "proper training" to issue speeding tickets because one father filed a lawsuit after a DOT officer gave his son a speeding ticket.
35 years ago I was the general manger of a utility contractor in Virginia. Before my tenure with the company, and inspector for VDOT named Clatterbuck had been made to look foolish when he exceeded his authority on a project that my company was doing. Much to my chagrin, when I was working there as the GM, Clatterbuck got promoted to Senior District Engineer. We routinely got gigged for every little thing you could think of. One day we got a call, and he needed us to do a project for him, and we were to vain to turn it down. The project required us to bore in a 4" water pipe under US HWY 29 for a single shot of about 120 feet. We were required to maintain 36" depth for the shot, no shallower. This was in the old days, before directional boring equipment had been invented, so we were using old technology to do the job. Because of the soil conditions, we opted to use a hydraulic rod pusher that pushes a 2" steel rod with a ram that has 80,000 lbs of pressure. I put my best team on the job, and we made the shot. When the rod came out in the "catch pit", Clatterbuck had just arrived. I walked over and used a tape measure to determine what we had done. As I noted the depth to myself, Clatterbuck asked, "How deep is it?". I looked at him and asked him (rhetorically), "What was the required depth?". He replied "36 inches." I looked at him with a straight face and said, "Oh! I think that you're gonna' be disappointed." His face lit up with glee, and he said, "Really. Why?!" (He thought he was going to be able to gig us on the job) Then I replied, "Because we missed the target, and came out at 39 inches." My lead employee doubled up in pain to keep from out loud, and the smile went away from Clatterbuck's face. He said, "Oh, good job." Then he went back to his car and left. We stopped having nit-picky problems with our other projects after that, and about 4 years later Clatterbuck retired. Sometimes the "Tin God" personalities need to be taken down a peg, or two, and it CAN be done with professionalism. But sometimes you need to hit them over the head with a law book. Go get 'em IJ!
That is completely nuts. As an engineer myself, I can't imagine pulling people over and detaining them. I also have no desire to do that and question the sanity of people who decide to just go do this.
Qualified immunity is just so insane. How can this be overcome when the Supreme Court themselves invented it and to this day will not reverse the decision?? Congress isn't lifting a finger on this either.
Some individual states are taking action on this, but of course that does not affect the federal doctrine... the courts or the lawmakers, that's our options.
I suspect this company beat out a close friend or Family member of John Large in winning this contract. I could be wrong, but seems suspect that he went out of his way to specifically target this 1 company
Wonder if those other companies paid bribes to this official or paid him to make life harder for their competition. The official could also be related or friends with their competition.
Some people just have a irrational hate toward anything about trucks. I'm not joking when I say they would have us take a 10 mile round about way over going by their place of living or work - but in the next breath be all for the enviourment
I was prepared for this to be about someone justifying overweight gravel trucks. I've seen them tear the hell out of county roads and it not being enforced. But I also should have known the Institute of Justice wouldn't get behind that kind of case. So let me get this straight. Deliberately enforcing the law unequally is a case for qualified immunity if the law has never been unequally applied that way before. Even without the "scope of his duties" excuse, any government official blatantly enforcing the law unequally shows that 1) he knew to let certain favored entities ignore the law and 2) to selectively enforce it against other, less favored entities. So far as I know only prosecutors have that kind of immunity, and prosecutorial immunity specifically gives prosecutors the discretion to pull that kind of crap. Even then they can go too far and get charged with malicious prosecution. Given the whole point to law and order, selective enforcement of the law against specific entities by its very nature means you know you were being selective, which makes a mockery of the entire concept of laws. This is complex why?
Institute for Justice, why is this going to the US Supreme Court , this is not that courts jurisdiction, this belongs at the State Supreme Court. Why hasn’t this engineer been arrested for unlawful detainment , clearly it meets that qualification?
Stop calling these people "government", they are ALL "Public Servants"! By "words" you are assigning them privileges, duties, and responsibilities that we have not granted them. 😱🙃🤪🤣👎🖕
Wrong. By calling them 'public servants' you keep the myth alive that they actually serve the public. They are representatives of the State, and that is where their only loyalty lies.
@@AllAhabNoMoby nope, you are trying to keep the MYTH alive that "states" are, and sorry WE the PEOPLE (collectively and INDIVIDUALLY) are the "self-government" that by oath WE abide by. You need to go back to school to learn about "The Charters of Freedom", and Freedom and Individual Rights that this nation was founded upon! DUMBASS! 😱🙃🥸🤪🤔👎🖕
The biggest problem is Terry Vs Ohio, the mere thought that just by an irrational suspicion (everything is suspicious to quota jockeys) it allows any officer to detain you, search your vehicle - this is totally deplorable. They investigate themselves, and if you don't have anything, they can easily plant something into your vehicle they confiscated prior to detaining you. We need unredacted videos eye level so they can't cover them much more transparency.
They can even stop you while undercover and make you "violently resist arrest" without you knowing it or even that they're law enforcement (Brownback v King) 😡 Yeah I know, it was decision on an FTCA/Michigan QI technicality but the way Thomas wrote it you'd think he believes they're entitled to do that nationwide.
Exactly. Bring back Google Glass and issue to all LEO's. The chest mounted cameras don't always show what the officer is looking at, especially when they stick their head in a car window or they decide to cover the lens with their coat "by accident". Also, make it so the camera can't be turned off or muted by the officers; it turns on when it comes off the charger, and doesn't turn off until it goes back on the charger.
@@andrewp7509 If they were not granted the right to search for any excuse in the first place it would make many of their interigations and unlawful searches with detainment a violation to begin. Now that the have abused that new permission they added qualified immunity to get them out of accountability. Taking away of any freedom opens pandoras box for more corruption. Especially those of safety.
Clean his clock and if you have to settle make sure he's fired for cause (no gov. Retirement) and he agrees to never get a job that has or receives government money!!!
This company representative sounds like he’s making a hostage video for fear of losing out on government contracts, as well as being harassed by motor carrier cops.
@CSIsux ok, fair enough, this is one sided. That said, I find it hard to believe that the Institute for Justice would take this case if the points made in this video weren’t corroborated. They are not an ambulance chasing law firm, they pick and choose cases carefully. I think it likely that other trucks use this road. Also, why would the state police rescind the ticket? What about the 5,000 pound weight limit?
it does not matter if Large's job description omits the fact he can or cannot stop traffic. It states in the Motor Vehicle Law or the Criminal Law statutes that he is not allowed to impersonate an Officer of the Law. As a former police officer, even I had to have a lawful reason to detain people by the side of the road.
COMMERCIAL TRUCKS PAY COMMERCIAL FEES TO USE THE ROADS . THE WEIGHT LIMITS ON SAID ROADS ARE SPECIFIED BEFORE THE ROADS ARE BUILT . THE ROUTE CHOSEN ON SAID ROADS WOULD SPECIFY WEIGHT LIMITS . THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL NEED TO BE LOCKED UP IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION !
I appreciate what the institute is doing but it’s tears in a river. The govt is totally out of control and ignores its own laws. It’s the rule rather than the exception. It’s time to set up a system that operates hidden from govt oversight. It’s time to just do what we want and stop asking for permission and permits.
Equal protection also appears to be a factor, because the engineer let other heavier trucks continue. That being the case IMO, he is not eligible for qualified immunity under any scrutiny.
If a government employee has no authority to detain another person, why would anyone actually listen to any type of directive from said government employee?
They want stuff delivered, but they don't want to accomendate big rigs. That's the hell of dealing with anyone in a municipality office. At one place we delivered to they lowered the weight restriction for the optimal path to that construction site, this road went just outside their office; so in protest we drove by their building when we had delivered and were empty.
Hey folks, we are well on the road to a police state. Even though a handful of police have been held accountable for somethings, it doesn't compare to crimes they commit on a daily basis.
SCOTUS nor any court can make or change law which is what was done in creating qualified immunity. I say end qualified immunity at every level of government including the judiciary.
That is legally called hostage taking. - 18 U.S. Code § 1203 - Hostage taking (Pay close attention to, "or".) - Qualified Immunity needs to be abolished!
Back in 1980 I was driving a tanker semi for a company out of New Jersey and was running with another driver so we could get past the only scales on Route 6 at 4:30 am. The scale opened at 5 AM so we were running hard to beat the opening scale. The Scalemaster was walking out to change the signs from closed to open when we went bye at near 50 MPH. The SCALEMASTER called the local cops to have us turn around and go over the scales. Both of us were legal weight so we to the cop when we went bye the sign said closed. No I’m not turning around as I have schedule to stay to. My tanker was loaded with vegetable oil for a company in the south end of Chicago. I made my delivery 10 minutes before my time of 7:00 PM I finished up and headed for the tank wash just north of Interstate 95 got the tank and truck cleaned and hit the rack after I dropped the trailer. In 14 years of driving for that I never once went over that scale open until I finally had to go over bobtail. The SCALEMASTER looked pissed because I was bobtail. I miss the old days.
This sort of stuff is everywhere, even in tiny ways. 45 years ago while working on my Uncle's dairy farm I was pulled over by a county sheriff's deputy while driving a 2-Cyle JD Tractor. My offence was 'failing to stop' at a very rural stop sign, while making a right turn. TOP speed of the tractor was 13MPH, I probably turned at about 5 or 6. Not sure you can even ticket a tractor for that but I was held up for 15 minutes while the guy chewed me out. A month or so later the guy pulled me over again in the same spot for pulling four hay wagons at once (empty) on another JD. Same deal, detain, argue, complain, then leave. Harassment! Turns out my Uncle was on a Zoning board of appeals and that board had denied this deputy some variance. At a meeting the farmers on the board were discussing 'odd things' and determined that all were being harassed by the same deputy. The sheriff in this case had no knowledge, but with all the evidence presented, the deputy rightly was sent packing, sans gun and badge and future wages. You don't see THAT outcome much these days.
They get away with this because the basic presumption isn't challenged, namely jurisdiction--and not just any kind of jurisdiction, but territorial jurisdiction. Their operatives who engage us or try to "charge" our persons rarely have it, thus 99.9% of the time they're acting in their private, personal capacities; there's no law behind them. These are simply private people pretending to be gov't, engaged in a mixed war using the machinery of gov't to do it. I don't believe this, I know it because we've gotten their lawyers to consistently agree with us on this.
We need to send these criminal officials to jail where they belong!!!! The actions of this man we criminal in nature and he needs to be charged for his actions!!
That guy obviously singled out this company and its trucks. One needs to ask themselves what he would gain from that and who would benefit, if that company can't fulfill it's contract. Who was outbid by that company and are they possibly in any way affiliated with that guy? Questions over questions...
The idea that it was necessary to 'weigh' the truck is embarrassing. Trucks that size weigh twice what that rectal reject 'set' the limit at empty, and he knew it.
The 5 ton restriction is the GVW, not the curb weight. There are laws like this allllll over the USA. My service truck had a gvw of 9,999 lbs so I could drive on the 5T restriction roads.
There is no law against a government engineer digging pot holes into a road and causing damage to vehicles either so if some government engineer did that, he couldn't be sued either right, he too would be granted qualified immunity?
I'm a dump truck driver in Florida and always armed. Blocking the road like a that is intrapment. He would have got himself ran over or possibly shot and I would have claimed kidnapping. Ive had people try similar stuff to me, but once they see my trucks not stopping, they always got out of the way.
I have a question, why aren’t there juries in family courts? Why does a murderer have a right to sentencing by peers but a mother, father, husband, or wife not have these rights?
glad that IFJ took up the fight against this tyrant hope gets what's coming to him and the county he worked for they should be sued into bankruptcy and his pension should be taken from him this guy is out of control go get them IFJ
Why don't government officials get jail time for blatantly violation the law and abusing their authority to harass people?
The government should fear the people.
qualified immunity . that's what the lawsuit is about
Because they would have to be prosecuted by a government authority in a government building protected by other government authorities.
Because they’re part of the club and the club defends their members.
The judges bare afraid is us want better law so the judges can abused us more
Qualified immunity…the single greatest loss of civil rights
That and "Corporations are people too."
You forgot about Civil Asset Forfeiture...
@@jimboha not forgotten…But just about every encounter between civilians and police there is a civil rights violation.
remember the battle of Athens Tennessee!
@@sterlingw3611 Or Killdozer.
As a utility company worker and labor union leader I’m livid with the idea of being detained by a low level government functionary with an ego problem
He apparently also had a financial connection to the company that competed with this one and had just lost the bid.
@@lookissjaxin which turns it directly into good old fashioned corruption which just angers a guy that much more
I was assaulted by a utility worker with an ego problem. Every utility worker I've ever talked to is a big fat ego problem.
Sir...you might want to check yourself.
@@MamaTriedSolo Are you ok?
He’d gotten flowers sent to him right there on the road with my crews…
No one, including the police, should have qualified immunity!
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@@dm7uy why is qualified immunity important for effective government operations?
Also seeing how qualified immunity was only established 39 years ago in 1982 by the supreme Court how did the US government operate effectively for the 194 years that preceded it?
@@brianwhite167 exactly. this is america, home of insurance premiums and lawsuits. cops should have to get bonded and insured before being hired-- like my freakin roofer does. that would cut out half the 'bad apples' from getting hired or even applying. it would also refocus departments and the whole police culture towards retaining and rewarding people who are good at their jobs.
their cop fraternities can put their money where their mouths are and use some of the money they get to pay premiums, instead of the taxpayers they victimize having to pay for lawsuits. they could buy a group plan- if they trust each other enough. if they get priced out of being able to afford their 'misconduct' insurance due to misconduct, buh bye.
cops want to be viewed as 'professionals', but vehemently shrug off any professional responsibility for their actions. just like doctors, lawyers, etc., they should be held to a certain standard.
insurance companies would ~love~ this new revenue stream.
I believe the cops have abused the qualified immunity statute like the UK cops abused their Sec. 44. UK cops would stop anyone they deemed suspicious and detained, searched and got their details under Sec. 44 of the Terrorist Act. They were out of control to the point the High Court repealed Sec 44. Qualified Immunity needs to be repealed for the same reason.
@@dm7uy "Qualified immunity says a person performing their job, as it should be performed, cant be sued. That is common sense."... except that is not at all what QI says... stop licking the boot.
I remember this case. It made big news in the twin cities. This guy who impersonated a cop and got away with it until the IFJ , a national law firm, went after him. This was a situation of a corrupt government official who had a hand in the company who lost the bid.
Finally someone answered the real reason why they were singled out. Thank you.
Source? I was wondering if the engineer was acting in good faith; trying to protect roads and infrastructure from damage from the companies trucks, making tax payers foot the bill so CSI could make more money by taking a shorter path though smaller residential areas when they could use more appropriate roads. Or, was this something else... like what you said.
Can you link me to the article that shows this engineer had a vested interest in that company that was competing with CSI. Why didn't they mention that in the article? If they said it and it wasn't true they would get sued, so It makes me think that it's probably not true.
theres got to be a reason hes got it out for this particular company. some sort of connection, money, family , something. otherwise it doesnt make sense
@@atomic66 Or maybe the trucks are damaging the roads and there's another route that might be 1-2 miles longer with stronger roads? Maybe the company is greedy..
@@guyintenn That engineer is the person who sets those limits. It's possible he was acting in the best interest of tax payers. I would hope a judge looked at the situation before ruling on the qualified immunity...
You know? There's a scenario where this guy was just trying to protect the public assets, and CSI's trucks were damaging the infrastructure with hundreds of deliveries, and they could have taken a safer route, but they were just interested in saving a few thousand dollars in fuel and wages. We don't have access to those kinds of details.
The fact that they never said this guy was part of another company that lost the bid leads to be believe that's not true... It would be an easy law suit if they made that claim and he wasn't part of a another contractor.
But this is RUclips comments... Everyone assumes the absolute worse in everything... Nothing is just the lesser of two evils... It's always a conspiracy, because that makes comments which makes for more views with makes for more money.. So, LETS SPIN THIS, AND MAKE SOME CASH!!!
I had a run in with a county engineer back in 2000. He had his guys pound a 3 ton weight limit sign ar the end of our road We operate a sawmill on. We are in Michigan and can legally haul 164k.
He came to me and said, "if you give me $30k I'll take the sign down. I sent my guys home and called the local news! Signs were down in the am....
Sounds like John Large had a vested interest in another company, one that did not win the bid to do the job. He should be sued and lose for his corruption.
Someone needs to bring back common sense to this ever-increasing tyrannical police state!
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@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Another like minded individual 🙏🏼
It's too late, it's here to stay, UNLESS?
@@guyintenn the seeeyeaye coined the term conspiracy theory and their agents inserted into the "media" "journalists " [ mockingbird media - called operation mockingbird ] - keep spreading it
Its fine if you don't want to believe it
You have that choice
Let me say this - you see the gold trimmed bordered flags?
Well that stands for admiralty law
England infiltrated immediately after the 1776 constitution
Do you think they just gave up after losing???
The ONLY THING keeping us from being slaughtered is the original constitution
No other country has it that why they CONTINUALLY spew gun control!!! WTFU!
They and the others have been infiltrating ever since and got more control with the act of 1871 [ turned America into a corporation for them ] when Ulysses s grant [ the 18th president since 1776 ( 18 = 6+6+6 ) brought in the your a peein bankers after the civil war [ nothing civil about it ];it was all preplanned by them
They gained further control in 1913 with their federal reserve [ 3rd one ]
Told everyone that they had to turn in their gold for PAPER in the 30's and after doing so raised the price of gold from 20.00 to 32.00; then took us off of the gold standard under Nixon [ NIX - ON ] nix - north American [ put an end to, cancel ] if that's even his real name, probably just his stage name
THEY DIDN'T CALL IT TELL-A-VISION BY ACCIDENT
William J Casey ex CIA director 1981 [ azquotesdotcom ] " we'll know our disinformation campaign is successful when the American people believe everything they see on television "
As a trucker who constantly goes down "restricted" roads for local deliveries (ie, a massive boom to service a cell tower in a residential area) I would have laughed at dude and gone right on around him, or winched his truck out of the road. Even cops know local exemption exist and would just be tossed if they wrote a ticket
Likewise, I’m a lineman and I’d freak out
@@anonymousbosch9265 any easement or exemptions I always start dropping 3 letter agencies like "you wanna explain to the FCC why you're blocking the maintenance road" and they'll move their ass real quick usually
I deliver fuel and I was thinking the same thing. I would have said “show me your state issued LE ID” and when he didn’t produce it I’d be long gone. I get paid by the delivery, not by the hour. No one without an LE certificate is keeping me anywhere.
@@deejayyy1681 I do similar things
@@nitemareman1 you'd have grounds to call the cops 😆 there's a suspicious person claiming to be a government officer detaining a hazardous materials fuel load. That would be a great uno-reverse card to deal out
Thank you for taking on this responsibility and taking this to the high court. Living in Minnesota myself, I've seen more and more stories of government officials and even local officials breaking the law with no consequences. Its time qualified immunity is taken away from all.
You think that is going to happen? maybe in never land.Keep on dreaming if you think Gov officials are going to listen to. they called ordinary people among themselves and refer to citizens as peasants or useless eaters.
You can't remove qualified immunity. If your a police officer and you stop a drunk driver they can sue you. Qualified immunity is there to stop one party from burdening another unjustly with court fees, legal fees, and wasting peoples time. If you have enough money you can keep someone else in court and cost them money too even if you have no standing. Qualified immunity is there to protect people from bad actors. HOWEVER, if a judge grants someone qualified immunity when they shouldn't; like when an engineer performs a traffic stop. This should not have been granted. It should have went to court and a jury should have decided, not a judge.
@@surveysays8335 You just gave the argument for why it needs to be reset. It's used to break the law with no consequences, no one is saying a drunk driver should be able to sue the officers for doing a legal stop. Though many officers have been caught arresting drivers who did nothing wrong and were not intoxicated. These people should have the right to freely sue there captures for wrongful arrest without having a judge saying qualified immunity.
You should start a campaign to file complaints against this engineer's professional license - provide links, make it dummy proof. Until these rogue buffoons are taught a lesson by the public, nothing will change. He clearly misused his government power. Also file complaints with the HR department that hired him. Start social media campaigns - public opinion matters!
@@troyw8338 Qualified Immunity is a necessary legal remedy.
It stops law suits before they begin.
Let me ask you this; Let's say your a land surveyor; you go out survey an area and put in some markers and made a mistake.. Some of the drawings you were looking at weren't easy to read, you were off by 100' and it caused a major dispute between land owners. They should seek remedy from your company, but you think they should be able you sue you and take EVERYTHING you own, and everything you may ever own... Because in a court of law, you DID make the mistake. You think that's ok? What do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking I was hoping I could show you how qualified immunity protects people from personal vulnerability by doing their job.
This is another example of why we need to return to using corporal punishment for gov employees.
Eliminate Qualified Immunity.
Amen!
Immunity, qualified or not, violates equal protection under the law.
@@Dirk_the_Daring But the people whose power depends on the insulation of their enforcers from the consequences of using force against the citizenry have no interest in it. This should be a on the ballot of every states to ratify its abolition as a Constitutional Amendment.
You guys at Institute for justice are doing Gods work.
LoL...isn't god letting this happen? So that's gods work too. 🤔 This god character doesn't sound omnipotent as she should be.
Man doesn't do gods work
@@inkedbuddhist5220 Or the imaginary figure never existed to begin with. People shouldn't put a fairy tale on a pedestal and just 'hope for the best outcome'.
Amen, that's Truth !
Graciously, Reverend RM Bowles
Detaining and moving people without official authority is called kidnapping, and it's a felony in every State.
Also, they did it while armed, so in most States that's called something like "aggravated kidnapping".
And yet another incident where I’m happy that I’m supporting the Institute for Justice.
Rock on you guys‼️‼️‼️
IA had speeding tickets issued by DOT to non-commercial drivers thrown out because the DOT cops didn't have "proper training" to issue speeding tickets because one father filed a lawsuit after a DOT officer gave his son a speeding ticket.
35 years ago I was the general manger of a utility contractor in Virginia. Before my tenure with the company, and inspector for VDOT named Clatterbuck had been made to look foolish when he exceeded his authority on a project that my company was doing. Much to my chagrin, when I was working there as the GM, Clatterbuck got promoted to Senior District Engineer. We routinely got gigged for every little thing you could think of. One day we got a call, and he needed us to do a project for him, and we were to vain to turn it down. The project required us to bore in a 4" water pipe under US HWY 29 for a single shot of about 120 feet. We were required to maintain 36" depth for the shot, no shallower. This was in the old days, before directional boring equipment had been invented, so we were using old technology to do the job. Because of the soil conditions, we opted to use a hydraulic rod pusher that pushes a 2" steel rod with a ram that has 80,000 lbs of pressure. I put my best team on the job, and we made the shot. When the rod came out in the "catch pit", Clatterbuck had just arrived. I walked over and used a tape measure to determine what we had done. As I noted the depth to myself, Clatterbuck asked, "How deep is it?". I looked at him and asked him (rhetorically), "What was the required depth?". He replied "36 inches." I looked at him with a straight face and said, "Oh! I think that you're gonna' be disappointed." His face lit up with glee, and he said, "Really. Why?!" (He thought he was going to be able to gig us on the job) Then I replied, "Because we missed the target, and came out at 39 inches." My lead employee doubled up in pain to keep from out loud, and the smile went away from Clatterbuck's face. He said, "Oh, good job." Then he went back to his car and left. We stopped having nit-picky problems with our other projects after that, and about 4 years later Clatterbuck retired. Sometimes the "Tin God" personalities need to be taken down a peg, or two, and it CAN be done with professionalism. But sometimes you need to hit them over the head with a law book. Go get 'em IJ!
That is completely nuts. As an engineer myself, I can't imagine pulling people over and detaining them. I also have no desire to do that and question the sanity of people who decide to just go do this.
There's no legal precedent that a traffic engineer cannot abduct, torture, and murder people. Therefor, qualified immunity applies. Government logic.
this is exactly what i was thinking.
Qualified immunity is just so insane. How can this be overcome when the Supreme Court themselves invented it and to this day will not reverse the decision?? Congress isn't lifting a finger on this either.
Some individual states are taking action on this, but of course that does not affect the federal doctrine... the courts or the lawmakers, that's our options.
It's almost like the people do not matter and should shut up and be happy.
@@thesquadequalstraitors2273 I believe you are correct.
I wonder if the County Engineer's "brother in law" was a competing bidder on the project.
Supposedly he had some sort of interest in the company that lost. Don’t know if it was family or business interests.
@CSIsux
From the name of your handle, I’d say you have an axe to grind and that my statement is probably at least 50% true.
I suspect this company beat out a close friend or Family member of John Large in winning this contract. I could be wrong, but seems suspect that he went out of his way to specifically target this 1 company
Please don't stop until that tyrant is fired, keep up the great work...it's might be needed more now then ever
"Our people do what they're told" that's the problem..
i'd stopped my truck asked him politely to move it then used my truck to push it off the road. and been on my way.
I was in a situation like this. I got the best civil rights layer in Minnesota. I won, they paid me and the guy lost his job.
Wonder if those other companies paid bribes to this official or paid him to make life harder for their competition. The official could also be related or friends with their competition.
idk i would have a special sticker on the truckers rights of passage that were approved..
Some people just have a irrational hate toward anything about trucks.
I'm not joking when I say they would have us take a 10 mile round about way over going by their place of living or work - but in the next breath be all for the enviourment
This guy needs to be fired and jailed.
This is really important, power corrupts and total power is tyranny- thank you for keeping this in check. 👍🏼
I was prepared for this to be about someone justifying overweight gravel trucks. I've seen them tear the hell out of county roads and it not being enforced. But I also should have known the Institute of Justice wouldn't get behind that kind of case.
So let me get this straight. Deliberately enforcing the law unequally is a case for qualified immunity if the law has never been unequally applied that way before. Even without the "scope of his duties" excuse, any government official blatantly enforcing the law unequally shows that 1) he knew to let certain favored entities ignore the law and 2) to selectively enforce it against other, less favored entities. So far as I know only prosecutors have that kind of immunity, and prosecutorial immunity specifically gives prosecutors the discretion to pull that kind of crap. Even then they can go too far and get charged with malicious prosecution.
Given the whole point to law and order, selective enforcement of the law against specific entities by its very nature means you know you were being selective, which makes a mockery of the entire concept of laws. This is complex why?
Blocking the road? That's kidnapping.
Institute for Justice, why is this going to the US Supreme Court , this is not that courts jurisdiction, this belongs at the State Supreme Court. Why hasn’t this engineer been arrested for unlawful detainment , clearly it meets that qualification?
If a stranger blocks me and doesn't have flashing red and blue lights I'm fearing for my life.
Stop calling these people "government", they are ALL "Public Servants"! By "words" you are assigning them privileges, duties, and responsibilities that we have not granted them. 😱🙃🤪🤣👎🖕
Wrong. By calling them 'public servants' you keep the myth alive that they actually serve the public. They are representatives of the State, and that is where their only loyalty lies.
@@AllAhabNoMoby nope, you are trying to keep the MYTH alive that "states" are, and sorry WE the PEOPLE (collectively and INDIVIDUALLY) are the "self-government" that by oath WE abide by. You need to go back to school to learn about "The Charters of Freedom", and Freedom and Individual Rights that this nation was founded upon! DUMBASS! 😱🙃🥸🤪🤔👎🖕
They're not public servants anymore, they're tyrants, enabled by SCOTUS.
Is anyone think mike tyson was right yet???
Some people just need to be punched in the mouth to be put in their place.
The biggest problem is Terry Vs Ohio, the mere thought that just by an irrational suspicion (everything is suspicious to quota jockeys) it allows any officer to detain you, search your vehicle - this is totally deplorable. They investigate themselves, and if you don't have anything, they can easily plant something into your vehicle they confiscated prior to detaining you. We need unredacted videos eye level so they can't cover them much more transparency.
They can even stop you while undercover and make you "violently resist arrest" without you knowing it or even that they're law enforcement (Brownback v King) 😡
Yeah I know, it was decision on an FTCA/Michigan QI technicality but the way Thomas wrote it you'd think he believes they're entitled to do that nationwide.
Exactly. Bring back Google Glass and issue to all LEO's. The chest mounted cameras don't always show what the officer is looking at, especially when they stick their head in a car window or they decide to cover the lens with their coat "by accident". Also, make it so the camera can't be turned off or muted by the officers; it turns on when it comes off the charger, and doesn't turn off until it goes back on the charger.
This isn't the same thing 😕
@@andrewp7509 If they were not granted the right to search for any excuse in the first place it would make many of their interigations and
unlawful searches with detainment a violation to begin. Now that the have abused that new permission they added qualified immunity to get them out of
accountability. Taking away of any freedom opens pandoras box for more corruption. Especially those of safety.
@@holdilocks driving is a privilege NOT a right ,nice try tho,stay safe !
I hope future road construction companies take this action into consideration when submitting bids for county road projects in Mahnomen county MN
"At least for now." Exceptionally powerful, nearly hidden words...
Clean his clock and if you have to settle make sure he's fired for cause (no gov. Retirement) and he agrees to never get a job that has or receives government money!!!
This company representative sounds like he’s making a hostage video for fear of losing out on government contracts, as well as being harassed by motor carrier cops.
Thank you IJ for all that you do .
Another rogue engineer that needs to be held accountable.
Follow the money. Why would this county official even care in the first place?
@CSIsux lol, did you even watch the video? Clearly, other heavy trucks were using this roadway. The county guy had it out for this company.
@CSIsux ok, fair enough, this is one sided. That said, I find it hard to believe that the Institute for Justice would take this case if the points made in this video weren’t corroborated. They are not an ambulance chasing law firm, they pick and choose cases carefully.
I think it likely that other trucks use this road. Also, why would the state police rescind the ticket? What about the 5,000 pound weight limit?
Your value to our system is immeasurable. Hopefully many will contribute to your cause
It should have been a Hostage situation. Many thanks to the Institute For Justice, America needs you now ! ! !
I drove Class A for 8 long years. The juice wasn’t worth the squeeze and the DOT was a huge pain in the ass. Public Servants are out of control !
it does not matter if Large's job description omits the fact he can or cannot stop traffic. It states in the Motor Vehicle Law or the Criminal Law statutes that he is not allowed to impersonate an Officer of the Law. As a former police officer, even I had to have a lawful reason to detain people by the side of the road.
Interesting... one would think you would bother to look up the statutes for impersonation... but... nooooo
COMMERCIAL TRUCKS PAY COMMERCIAL FEES TO USE THE ROADS . THE WEIGHT LIMITS ON SAID ROADS ARE SPECIFIED BEFORE THE ROADS ARE BUILT . THE ROUTE CHOSEN ON SAID ROADS WOULD SPECIFY WEIGHT LIMITS . THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL NEED TO BE LOCKED UP IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION !
I appreciate what the institute is doing but it’s tears in a river. The govt is totally out of control and ignores its own laws. It’s the rule rather than the exception. It’s time to set up a system that operates hidden from govt oversight. It’s time to just do what we want and stop asking for permission and permits.
They shouldn't have stopped period.
Equal protection also appears to be a factor, because the engineer let other heavier trucks continue. That being the case IMO, he is not eligible for qualified immunity under any scrutiny.
Dude a forklift with its battery in is 5 tons. That's insane 😂
You clearly didn't pay him his "fee"
Good. Thanks.
If a government employee has no authority to detain another person, why would anyone actually listen to any type of directive from said government employee?
They want stuff delivered, but they don't want to accomendate big rigs. That's the hell of dealing with anyone in a municipality office.
At one place we delivered to they lowered the weight restriction for the optimal path to that construction site, this road went just outside their office; so in protest we drove by their building when we had delivered and were empty.
Hey folks, we are well on the road to a police state. Even though a handful of police have been held accountable for somethings, it doesn't compare to crimes they commit on a daily basis.
Qualified immunity must be changed to not be able to forgive crimes.
SCOTUS nor any court can make or change law which is what was done in creating qualified immunity. I say end qualified immunity at every level of government including the judiciary.
Who is the lady who explain this whole issue and qualified emunity she did a very beautiful job
I would have never stoped if that person wasn’t in a marked police car
Mistake was for the trucking company to advise their drives to stay detained. Tell that punk to pound sand and leave.
I could listen to her all day long.
WHY would the state police not have arrested Large for false imprisonment and issue him the citation for blocking traffic...
unlawful imprisonment
Unlawful detention is a separate CRIMINAL offense; and there's no way that can be regarded within the pervue of his normal duties.
Jonathan Large should be promoted straight to D.C. he is clearly qualified for any position in the Federal government !!!!
That is legally called hostage taking. - 18 U.S. Code § 1203 - Hostage taking (Pay close attention to, "or".) - Qualified Immunity needs to be abolished!
Back in 1980 I was driving a tanker semi for a company out of New Jersey and was running with another driver so we could get past the only scales on Route 6 at 4:30 am. The scale opened at 5 AM so we were running hard to beat the opening scale. The Scalemaster was walking out to change the signs from closed to open when we went bye at near 50 MPH. The SCALEMASTER called the local cops to have us turn around and go over the scales. Both of us were legal weight so we to the cop when we went bye the sign said closed. No I’m not turning around as I have schedule to stay to. My tanker was loaded with vegetable oil for a company in the south end of Chicago. I made my delivery 10 minutes before my time of 7:00 PM I finished up and headed for the tank wash just north of Interstate 95 got the tank and truck cleaned and hit the rack after I dropped the trailer. In 14 years of driving for that I never once went over that scale open until I finally had to go over bobtail. The SCALEMASTER looked pissed because I was bobtail.
I miss the old days.
This sort of stuff is everywhere, even in tiny ways. 45 years ago while working on my Uncle's dairy farm I was pulled over by a county sheriff's deputy while driving a 2-Cyle JD Tractor. My offence was 'failing to stop' at a very rural stop sign, while making a right turn. TOP speed of the tractor was 13MPH, I probably turned at about 5 or 6. Not sure you can even ticket a tractor for that but I was held up for 15 minutes while the guy chewed me out. A month or so later the guy pulled me over again in the same spot for pulling four hay wagons at once (empty) on another JD. Same deal, detain, argue, complain, then leave. Harassment! Turns out my Uncle was on a Zoning board of appeals and that board had denied this deputy some variance. At a meeting the farmers on the board were discussing 'odd things' and determined that all were being harassed by the same deputy. The sheriff in this case had no knowledge, but with all the evidence presented, the deputy rightly was sent packing, sans gun and badge and future wages. You don't see THAT outcome much these days.
so sue his employer the county that he works for and they can pay for his actions and then fire his ass
You know how you know an official is lying? He or she opens their mouth
They get away with this because the basic presumption isn't challenged, namely jurisdiction--and not just any kind of jurisdiction, but territorial jurisdiction. Their operatives who engage us or try to "charge" our persons rarely have it, thus 99.9% of the time they're acting in their private, personal capacities; there's no law behind them. These are simply private people pretending to be gov't, engaged in a mixed war using the machinery of gov't to do it. I don't believe this, I know it because we've gotten their lawyers to consistently agree with us on this.
If the official is not in the office then there’s no reason for any immunity. What they do in public should be held accountable..
We need to send these criminal officials to jail where they belong!!!! The actions of this man we criminal in nature and he needs to be charged for his actions!!
That guy obviously singled out this company and its trucks.
One needs to ask themselves what he would gain from that and who would benefit, if that company can't fulfill it's contract. Who was outbid by that company and are they possibly in any way affiliated with that guy?
Questions over questions...
The idea that it was necessary to 'weigh' the truck is embarrassing. Trucks that size weigh twice what that rectal reject 'set' the limit at empty, and he knew it.
Many of these people are psychopaths and need to be put in their place. A couple of good healthy sueings tends to cure this mental condition.
NO EFFING BADGE ,
NO EFFING IMMUNITY.
END OF DISCUSSION
In Chicago it wouldn't take a court case to straighten him out.
Capisce?
The 5 ton restriction is the GVW, not the curb weight. There are laws like this allllll over the USA. My service truck had a gvw of 9,999 lbs so I could drive on the 5T restriction roads.
Holding someone against their will, WITHOUT Lawful Authority is , I don't know, KIDNAPPING! But what do I know right.
There is no law against a government engineer digging pot holes into a road and causing damage to vehicles either so if some government engineer did that, he couldn't be sued either right, he too would be granted qualified immunity?
So, what should we do? I'm in Pennsylvania, I don't live in Minnesota, what can I do to help?
Acting like an officer is a felony
I'm a dump truck driver in Florida and always armed. Blocking the road like a that is intrapment. He would have got himself ran over or possibly shot and I would have claimed kidnapping. Ive had people try similar stuff to me, but once they see my trucks not stopping, they always got out of the way.
Wow... seems like that individual needs some attitude adjustment since he claims to have qualified immunity !!! Disgraceful
Abuse of authority corruption is everywhere.
The sad thing is large will not be held accountable and the taxpayers will have to pay.
nobody should have qualified immunity.
why wasnt he arrested for kidnapping or false imprisonment???
Do your best! People get a minimal amount of power and it gets to them no matter where on the step ladder they are at.
How the hell? I guess if you're part of any government office or role, you can just do as you please and harass people without repercussion.
I have a question, why aren’t there juries in family courts? Why does a murderer have a right to sentencing by peers but a mother, father, husband, or wife not have these rights?
Family court isn't court.
Many "judges" haven't passed the bar.
Often they are just a Joe blow given the position.
Oppressive Governments in the past sure do seem to like children…
Everyone who takes a government paycheck is a crook.
The only time someone has authority over you is when you give it to them.
I would not let anyone short of a uniformed officer stop me.
End qualified immunity NOW!
glad that IFJ took up the fight against this tyrant hope gets what's coming to him and the county he worked for they should be sued into bankruptcy and his pension should be taken from him this guy is out of control go get them IFJ
It's clear that that man was harassing the trucking company and should be held accountable for the losses!!
Please make sure y’all post the good outcomes to these situations!