Pokemon Legends: Z-A Time Period, Explained!
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2024
- Pokemon Legends: Z-A time period will be late 1800's Paris, France. What do you think about this theory?
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The rediscovery and exploration of the Paris Catacombs was a also a major part of the Haussman Renovation. Maybe that will be a major area in PLZA?
where do you think the pokemon being pushed out are taking refuge in? O_o but hey that's just a theory!
Masterful theory, Cayla! I really like that idea of Pokémon being corralled to control them to showcase the darker undertones of the Paris renovations. This would make perfect sense for a time period after Legends Arceus, where Pokémon are outright feared, but before our modern times, where we have a more utopic coexistence with Pokémon.
I honestly think you're right and this is the biggest lead we have in figuring out what time period this game will take place in!
I love your analysis, but I can't help feeling that it isn't quite right, or maybe not the full story. The thing that gets me is that in the sketch of the city, some of the clothes don't seem to be suitable for the period. Most notable to me is the woman on the right (seen at 2:32 in your vid) wearing a baseball cap, pants, and looks to have a ponytail. From a quick google, technically, there could be a woman wearing pants and baseball cap in the late 1800s (though pants were a special rule and baseball caps were only starting to be a thing in America) but would someone include that in their sketch if it was being made in that time period? Could the Pokemon world's Haussmann have made the Urban Redevelopment Plan based on what he saw in the future somehow?
probably used a psychic type to see into the future. That's my dumb take please rip into if you want.
I think if PokeHaussmann is the focus of this game he'll be wanting to introduce more pokemon to the city rather than remove them. Pokemon in Hisui were aggressive, but I think people forget the NPCs mentioning that other regions had different relationships with pokemon, including battles and training already existing in Kanto. Making it a city "that belongs to people and pokemon" sounds a lot more like welcoming pokemon than removing them. The villainous angle may be trying to turn the tower into a new ultimate weapon, now surrounded by pokemon to power it
That doesn’t match with the historical information we know about Paris, though. I think the trailer is kinda encouraging that misconception on purpose so that we, who will almost certainly be working for Quasar, will slowly notice that they’re not totally morally in the right as the game goes on. But for people who know the history, there’s no connection to bringing Pokémon in to the city based on what we’ve seen so far.
Keep in mind too that the entire game takes place in Lumiose City. So if we’re bringing Pokémon in, we won’t be leaving the city to do so.
@@CaylasCapsule I would argue that it does match the history of Paris, because part of Haussmann's beatification included adding hectares of parks and green spaces, as well as thousands of new trees to the city. Making the city more friendly to nature would be something that attracts them rather than driving them away
@@CaylasCapsule Wouldn't that require either 1. The game to end with all the pokemon gone and nothing to catch
or 2. The game ends and that massive issue is just left to be solved off screen sometime
@@Articfoxgamez It could be that we find out in the middle, and go work for a kind of "anti Quasar" if those are the baddies. Maybe we'll have to solve those side quests again to have people start loving Pokémon and trust us more than the others and therefore they'll support the plan to include Pokémon in the city.
Honestly I still lean towards it being in the future. Game Freak doesn't copy their real world inspirations 1:1; they could be inspired by the redevelopment of Paris but that doesn't mean it has to be exactly the same and in the same time period. Personally I think based off the Lumiose we know and Zygarde's role as a protector of the ecosystem, it makes sense that the game would be in a future redevelopment of the city with the goal of making it more natural and habitable by a variety of wild pokemon. It could be that the entire point of the game is that we need to appease Zygarde by making the city more pokemon-friendly, as to not disrupt the natural world. Plus Kalos to me has always felt like the most modern Pokemon game, and it just feels more appropriate to explore a future one than a past one, in my opinion. The fact that the game supposedly takes place entirely in the city is what makes me team future, cause if the goal of the game is to develop Lumiose into the city we know, that wouldn't really leave any space for wild pokemon.
How does the future lumiose leave any more space for wild pokemon?
@masturluck supposedly the redevelopment of Paris was to open it up and add more water and green areas. The lumiose we know is very tight and urban, so it would make sense if we do something similar in trying to add more greenery, water, and any other kind of nature to allow pokemon to live together with the citizens of Lumiose. Since Arceus was based in the past and was all about wilderness and people only learning to coexist with pokemon, I feel it makes sense for this game to be kinda the opposite. Given that it takes place in city, and what the trailer said about coexistence, to me it would follow that this game is all about the coexistence of people and pokemon. The lumiose we know wasn't really like that, so I think it makes more sense to be in the future. Unless of course some other redevelopment takes place afterwards that makes it more urban again lol, but I doubt that
@@eeeeggnog._. I am with you on this one.
In XY Lumiose, its only one layer. In the trailer, its 2 layers (A top layer - the XY one) and an added bottom layer with waterways. If Legends ZA is in the past, XY Lumiose makes no sense anymore.
Another issue is that it makes no sense for certain Kalos mons (Or mons that are in the XY dex without a Mega) to Mega Evolve in the past, since in-lore, they cannot explain why they weren't in XY since the explanation in XY isn't there. While for a future setting, they easily can explain it with saying: When we dug deeper for the redevelopment, we discovered new Mega Stones.
@@nickdentoom1173 I agree with you, but to be fair Legends Arceus had pokemon and forms that were never seen in modern Sinnoh
@@nickdentoom1173 Keep in mind though, X and Y was on the 3DS so there was only so much they can do so with this game Lumiose will be expanded and even in X and Y it's easy to say there's places that existed but we just didn't see.
Everything you said matches up perfectly and this is really interesting stuff, I'm quite excited to see what Lumiose City looked like before it became what it is today, what did the old city look like? I can't wait! And this is one reason I love the Legends series, it shows us a Pokemon version of real life historical events and allows us as the player to be at the heart of these events!
Really great video. I think it's funny to consider this a sequel to Arceus because Legends Z is very akin to Legends 2. Since Haussmann restaured Paris from 1853 to 1870 (but it lasted until 1927) and the Eiffel Tower was done by 1889 I wouldn't be against the idea of this game taking place in 1896 (a centuty before RGB) since Kalos in XY had its Kanto-isms. Maybe the Noble/Alpha equivalents in ZA will be Wild Mega Evos and they're out of control like RotomDex's SM entries describe.
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I concur with your hypothesis and I hope they go this route because it creates an interesting and potentially dark story line.
Personally I think we'll be switching between past and future in some kind of way. Perhaps we'll do something in the past and periodically be able to see how it affects future Lumiose/Kalos as the plot progresses. I could see those space-time distortion areas from PLA making a return too if this were indeed the case.
If we do get regional forms in Legends ZA, some of them may look aggressive to represent the pokemon conflicting with the humans in Lumiose City
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I loved how PLA was inspired by a very specific point in history, and it makes me so happy that it seems to be a trend with the Legends games... It's really nice to have a video going over every detail, I feel like I'm going to revisit it a few times over the next two years haha! Also, that outfit is looking fire!
Astounding work. Brava!
Pokemon Legends ZA will be set in the future for a number of reasons
1. A past setting instantly locks out every Pokemon in the XY that didn't have a Mega, from getting a Mega in ZA if its a past setting
2. In the trailer, we see 2 layers, a top layer, and a bottom layer with waterways. In XY, Lumiose City has only one layer and no waterways. That only is proof enough that Legends ZA will be set after the events of XY, especially if we add the lore of Sina and Dexio in Sun and Moon, where they mention the five heroes of Kalos (Calem, Serena, Shauna, Tierno and Trevor), but also that Sycamore discovered the Zygarde Cubes. Based on Legends ZA logo, the game will heavily involve Zygarde.
Fun fact the 3DS hardware didn't allow for the entirety of Lumiose to be explored you barely saw a fraction of the city in the actual game
@@elin111 Which means a redevelopment plan for Lumiose City in the past is a problem, since we already know how it looks like in the future/present.
France didn't have a king during the Hausmann renovation of the city of Paris BTW.
France had an emperor. You know Napoleon III at the time during this.
Yup, you’re totally right. I misspoke; shoulda said emperor instead of king.
I guess it could be in the past. These are valid points. I'm still not sure Lumiose City will be big enough for a single game. I could be wrong of course.
Not sure about that; Zygarde only watches over the balance of life and destruction. If that balance is out of hand, Zygarde goes to its full power to restore that balance. Whether the upcoming Legends game is past or future based, one this is clear: each player will have a hand in history; whether living it out of making history.
If it's this time period, I hope we get fashion that goes along with it! Dresses in the 1860's were 👌✨💕
I don’t understand why people assume the Talonflame is the same Fletchling? The screen pivots around and focuses on a the Fletchinder that comes from an entirely different direction… And there’s never any Fletchinder on the screen that I ever see? Unless you can time stamp it in the trailer for me.
As a previous post of mine implied I'm with you on this one, it wouldn't be a "Legends" game after all if it wasn't based on the past. I would add the whole late 19th century though, I don't see the whole renewal be only about architecture but also technology, for example city lighting and the first road vehicles were from that period, and they could tie it with some new specific in-game mechanics or new balls. In this sense it would be a perfect next-step cultural sequel to the world of Legends: Arceus. Interestingly enough Xerneas and Yveltal should still be dormant in that period, so I'm not sure how they're going to justify their eventual presence. Q: Are you going to make more videos on A-Z?
Agree on them incorporating technology changes as well! I’ll definitely be making more Z-A theory videos, and I’ll also be posting my playthrough after it comes out. 😊
Considering that this game likely takes place at more or less the same time period as Legends: Arceus’ Meiji Hokkaido, I’d be surprised if we didn’t see any characters from that game making cameos as visitors to Lumiose.
aaaaaa, your concept sounds so good! I hope the game actually is like that.
Something that actually crosses over with the Haussmann Renovation was the Franco-Prussian war where Paris was under siege. During the siege, the citizens were starving and resorted to eat every last animal within the city. This included dogs, cats, rats but also the animals in their zoo like an elephant.
So, making Lumiose City a place for both human and Pokemon feels somewhat weird.
Based on the 3D blueprints to the 2D blueprints, it will be in the same time period as Pokémon X and Y. The Lumiose tower, the woman on her cell phone, the sky scrapers in the background, and the modern clothes would indicate a 1900s time period. The teaser video is a cartoonish impression of what architects build now for current urban renewal projects. I’d speculate that the themes from Mauville City in ORAS games and the XYZ anime were used in developing the plot for Z-A.
The blueprint is of the present, and the point of the game is that we’re building towards what’s shown in the blueprint, so the game itself must take place in the past.
Remember Khu's riddle about the white forest and black city? The trailer for Z-A have similar elements. The old city tyle is like white forest but the newer city version is depicted similar to the black city. Just an observation, could be wrong as well
Definitely seems like we're getting past stuff but really hope we get past and future too, I want to see Diantha again at some point
Quasar is just too modern of a word for me. I still vote time travel back and forth shenanigans
It's time for the community to try to answer this question: what is really the Legends series? My answer would be this: an x chapters series that portraits the cultural evolution of the Pokèmon world from early civilization (Hisui) to the modern day (Kanto) with a primary focus on human-Pokèmon bonding, the development of technologies to interact safely with the creatures and prehistory. Z-A will be chapter 2 in this sense and in my view won't be the last, so the x is at least 3.
I was thinking 1800s. Whoop. I’m not mad 😂
6:44 on the lower right looks like a train tunnel to me. Haven't seen anyone mention it yet.
I thought it was a train at first, too, but not so sure after zooming in. If it is a train, though, the first line of the Paris metro opened near the end of this time period. So it would fit well to incorporate trains.
@@CaylasCapsule But it wasn't in XY Lumiose, that is the problem here. As such, Legends ZA can never be set in the past, else XY Lumiose makes no sense anymore lore wise. Another problem is that the trailer clearly showed 2 layers. XY Lumiose is only 1 layer. So it has to be a future setting, past is simply not an option.
@@nickdentoom1173 Lumiose City has a train station on North Boulevard in XY.
Tricky to predict since they could be showing current Kalos but take us back to the beginning. The issue with the theory of messing with pokemon is the plan is to create a city that is great for both
That’s what happened irl, so I don’t think it’s an issue, tbh.
Nice hat Cayla!
this is an amazing video for sure. I agree with everything you said except I just don’t see how the talonflame de-evolving Could mean that we’re starting at the beginning. i’m not sure what it means but the only thing I could think of is either going backwards in time from the present or actually starting in the future. to be honest with my personal opinion I hope we don’t spend too much time in the 1850s France architecture because I extremely dislike that kind of architecture😂 I would love to see it take place in the future or the ancient past. if it takes place in 1850s France I might not be able to play it. i’m really hoping that GF is just taking the idea of the redevelopment plan from that time for inspiration or that we don’t spend too much time there and we constantly travel to different different time periods
I just assumed it was pronounced “Z to A,” in the same way you read A-Z as “A to Z.”
Keen eye as usual! Didn’t even notice those lampposts in the modern rendering. 👀
Your lore and theory videos are the best on the internet. You deserve adulation and accolades.
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Am I the only one who seems to remember that Tower of Mastery states that, (regular ones long after Rayquaza), Mega Evolution was discovered for over thousand years ago with starting with Lucario to Mega Lucario? It's not THAT new. What is true is true Sycamore was one of the few trying to research it to be more widely known, but it was not a complete unknown. I feel some fans have forgotten this fact.
Do you have evidence of Lucario's mega evolution occurring over a thousand years ago? I can't find any evidence of that.
The big question is if God is going to throw Calem/Serena back in time and use them for land development.
In my head, I'd been calling it Pokemon Legends: Zaaaah.
The game is pronounced simply as “ZA”. Not “Z dash A”, not “Zeta”. Just the two letters, “ZA”. Wonderful video regardless! ✨
The name is just Z A. In Japanese it is zetto (Z) ee (A/a sound), making it Z A in English the dash is not spoken as far as we know from what we heard in Japanese.
It takes place in the future...idk how people aren't getting that, it's common sense if you watched the trailer
Exactly.
Heck, you only have to look at XY Lumiose. Then you already see a Legends ZA in the past is impossible, since XY Lumiose has only one layer and has no waterways whatsoever. So the redevelopment has to be after the events of XY.
People are setting up patterns again, when we only have one game to base this on.
I feel like we know most of the Legends surrounding the X/Y main legends, with AZ and the Ultimate Weapon. This game could simply be about rediscovering Zygarde’s legend, in modern day, because it was the forgotten and untouched Pokémon relegated to getting new forms in the next Gen games that couldn’t somehow find the time to put into the main games. Now we can take the time to explore a side of Kalos we know nothing of, rediscovering lost legends.
You are saying this over the assumption that the trailer has anything to do with actual gameplay. All that footage is just the "Vision" of what Lumiose city will become, aka X and Y/the present. The game will be about building towards that, hence the past.
@@vjay6167 Except the Lumiose in XY isn't the Lumiose in the trailer though, so it cannot become that, since we already know what Lumiose City looks like in the present. So unless Legends ZA takes us past XY from a past standpoint (Which means the events of XY happen again in Legends ZA, which makes XY redundant).
This is why Legends ZA needs to be in the future, since setting it in the past is a problem for XY.
@@nickdentoom1173 Obviously an animated trailer of the city isn't going to look like what Lumiouse looks like on limited 3DS hardware.
Someone on reddit actually superimposed the map onto XY's map and it was basically the same/slightly smaller, just more detailed. This game is going to take place in the past. No point in calling it Legends if it's in the future.
Pokemon aren't native in France At all
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You have some really great insights and thoughts to share it'll be a shame if some of the presentation is putting people off from enjoying it 😅
It's setting the tone and making it feel like the content is more aimed towards children rather than peers.
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