IT woud be fantastic if you did similar benchmark for this GPU but for PCVR moded games such as Resident Evil 7, Cyberpunk etc. I think this would be perfect use case for this card.
well, my oculus has been sitting in its box for quite some time now, haven't used it much recently to be honest... I got myself a rtx4080 though recently and I'm quite happy with it... I know, it is outragely expensive but well, it's one of the luxuries I treat myself to... this might be a great time to get into VR one more time 🙂
PC VR is where it's at IMO. For a stand alone device I think the Quest 2 provides a really good VR experience but the Quest 2's display is capable of much higher resolution visuals than stand alone games can take advantage of. With a GPU like the 4080 you can see just how good games can actually look on the Quest 2.
Great video. I have a Zotac 4080 on the way to replace my 2080ti. I also have a 5800x3d so your setup gave me a great idea of performance to expect. I do a lot of VR flying and Sim Racing. I am however using a Vive XR Elite headset so hopefully it can handle the higher resolutions it supports.
I just updated my pc with a 4080 and 5800x3d from a 2080 abd 3700x...haven't tried vr yet but cyberpunk on max settings gets over 100fps so I think it will do fine lol
very goog review. I was battling between 4080 or a PSVR 2 to just plug and play. Think I will do the GPU instead as it offers plethora of already owned games to run shiny
Thanks for the review. Prices are dropping here in Australia thanks to the Super. I purchased the PNY 4080 non super variant for USD 990 with tax all inclusive.
Awesome man! Congrats! Oh boy, are they ever gonna look good my man. Assuming you've got all your settings dialed in of course. 😅 That's the one thing about PC gaming in general... you've gotta get everything setup right and dialed in yourself. But if you like to tinker and stuff, then that is all part of the fun. 😀👍🏻
Just ordered a 4080 Super yesterday and when too hear someone talk about VR performance. Figured this would be the closest since they're very similar cards. Thanks! Im a VR head already so im excited to jump into UEVR! Edit: I had a 2070 Super btw. I'm crushing everything that I throw at it.
you might get a little boost depending on the game but other than that most games offer same performance its kind of strange since the super has more cuda cores and rt cores maybe we gotta wait till nvidia releases a new driver for the 4080 super maybe that'll fix performance
@@loledas-d1n Sorry for the delayed response. I have a Ryzen 9 5900x. GPU prior was a 2070 Super, so my performance increase was way more than worth it.
@@electalexeng Unfortunately I haven't given it a go yet. :( Been so busy with work and my new baby that I haven't taken the time to deepdive in the UEVR software yet.
You should consider adding "Into the Radius" to your benchmark gauntlet. It beats the heck out of my gigabyte gmaing oc 4080 and 12400f setup at 5408x2736 90hz while still looking a bit soft. Oculus debug settings were changed to increase resolution/ performance and in fact, i dont even have the ingame settings maxed out and im crutching hard on vrperfkit and fsr to maintain 90fps. definitley could be cpu limited but not by much
Thanks for the suggestion on Into the Radius. I'll look into it. I've found that cranking the render resolution in the Oculus App all the way up doesn't look as good as 4704 X 2384, which is why that's the resolution I ran on everthing for this video. Not exactly sure why that is, but it is something I've noticed doing all the testing I've done. My guess is it probably has something to do with stream compression; where the amount of data being sent to the headset is so high, once it's compressed into a deliverable package, things have been downgraded to the point they look soft and blurry? Don't know for sure though, just a theory. What I do know is stuff looks amazing on the Quest 2 at 4704 x 2384 so I stick with it.
It’s almost 2000 dollars here in Sweden lol, still feel like buying one tho, I’m currently using a computer with a 980ti, and I just built a really high end system. Only component missing is the GPU. Thank you so much for this in depth video. 💯🔥
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 using Virtual Desktop with all settings on ultra runs flawlessly! Amazing! Most PCVR games really benefit from running faster DDR5 RAM. I'm running my ram at 7000Mhz with an i5 13600k Overclocked at 5,4Ghz. it just Walks all over modded Assetto Corsa with traffic mods, nothing I throw at it drops below my targeted 120 FPS in VR
Why are you running the resolution 4704x2384 on Quest 2? For 1:1 pixel mapping (native resolution) you need to run at 5408x2736 as after image transformations you end up with native resolution, info. from John Carmack. It would be good to see though how these GPUs fare when trying to drive the headset at it's native resolution rather than sub sampled.
He said in another comment that he chose that resolution because 5408x2736 looks bad when compressed and that 4704x2384 looks better to him probably because of the stream compression to PC, less res = less pixelation and softness, now I don't know how true any of that is since I don't own a Quest 2. I'm just repeating what he said.
hey quick question i know the video is old but why aren't you testing the 4080 at 5408 x 2736 like how you did with your 6950 xt? im sure the 4080 has the power for it
I honestly don’t know how you are getting a solid 120fps in HLA with headroom to spare? I have using windows 10 a 5800X3D + strix 4080 super OC, playing on PSVR2 using a 2800x2856 resolution (68%) in steamVR and can barely get 100fps on high settings! Have you done anything in your bios regarding the 5800X3D? Have you enabled/disabled any particular windows settings? Like I don’t get how you’re getting a solid 120??
Just last week I built a new system with a core I7 13700k 32gb Corsair Dominator ram and a Gigabyte rtx 4080. I do a LOT of VR gaming, the performance uplift from my Ryzen7 5800x/ GTX 1070ti is nothing short of awe inspiring. I can go up to 500% increase in screen resolution in project cars and Resident Evil Village and still get a buttery smooth framerate, Used to have to knock them down to 90 to get a good framerate on the old card. I want to test Lone Echo2 but I have a Valve Index running revive and the controllers seem to sort of lock up on starting the game, anyone know a fix? Thanks!
Update: a new version of revive came out and I no longer have any issues with Oculus/Meta games with revive on the Valve Index Including Lone Echo2. LE2 is the best VR experience in my opinion with graphics better than Alyx.
Did you ever test the 4090? I'm getting my quest 3 tuesday and looking at GPU upgrades for Airlink/PCVR and since the new Q3 supports AV1 apparently the 4090 is a beast at AV1 encoding but having a hard time finding a comparison 4080 vs 4090 for performance lol. Trying to decide if it's worth the extra $400 since I'm already spending so much with the 4080.
I have not yet gotten my hands on a 4090. I really want to get one but I just haven't been able to justify the purchase. I buy all the GPU's I test; I don't have any kind of sponsorship that gets me them for free, so I have to kinda pick and choose which GPU's I test and right now it's the lower end stuff since I can get two or three graphics cards for what it would cost me to get one 4090. 😅 Again, I really hope to get a 4090 one of these days, but as of right now I'm working on the 4060ti 16GB this week and then I have the RX 7700XT and RX 7800XT in the queue after that and currently no money to buy any more GPU's until the RUclips ad revenue comes in later this month. 😂
love these videos. I have a 5800x3d and 4080 and have just been running Virtual Desktop, but I am looking to move to the cable as I cant seem to get stutter free in VD and the video quality up to snuff in AirLink. You share the in game settings for each game, I was curious what the Oculus and Oculus Debug settings are for this setup (Independantly of the game settings on each section of the video). Keep up the amazing content!
With Nividia GPU's I typically only set Link Sharpening to Normal in ODT and leave everything else at default. As for Air Link, after launching it, I leave the bitrate on dynamic but set the slider all the way to the right at 200Mbps. When using a Link cable it's always at 200Mbps and you can't change it. Everything else I do for AirLink has to do with router settings. The biggest one is setting the channel bandwidth to 80MHz, but yah for the most part I try to keep it simple for people that are more of the plug and play mentality.
@@Maraksot78 thank you for the super quick response. I think I will reset all of the settings, go back to basics and make the changes you outline and check the results. Expecting the cable to show up shortly. Thanks again!!
its crazy that you can get a i5 13400f with the 4080 rtx (32gb ram) from nzxt player one and it runs the walking dead vr game nearly on everything ultra, it in fact ran so smooth on ultra but after playing for an hour, it started lagging, i dont know if its other applications being running in the background but the price tag is only around 1200 dollars
It would be nice to maybe add what is your setting in oculus app. I just changed from the rx6950xt to the 4080, hopping the oculus cable would be better, and I still have a massive performance difference between cable and Steam Link. No idea why. I don't visually see a difference...
cant wait for mine to arrive. I recently upgraded to a quest pro and found that my 3070ti just could not drive it at its native resolution without running into Vram limitations
hey buddy. Awesome Vid. Could you please tell me which in VR FPS program you are using? This is shown directly in VR as well, right? Thanks in advance Cheerz Tom
Thanks for checking out the video and for the comment. To see the performance in real time in VR I use the Performance Overlay in the Oculus Debug Tool. It's kinda buried, but comes with the Meta Quest Link PC application. You have to navigate to it using Windows Explorer. You'll find it in C://ProgramFiles/Oculus/Support/oculus-diagnostics. Double click OculusDebugTool to launch it and toward the bottom you'll see HUDs and to the right of Visible HUD it will say None. Click on None and you'll see a dropdown appear, select Performance from the drop down and the overlay you see in this video will come up in your headset. If you click the + sign next to Performance HUD you can then select what graphs/info you want to see. The main two I use is Performance Summary and Oculus Link. Hope this is useful. Cheers.
Oh! Well that does change things a bit. An app I've used before that is really good for Steam VR games (which is what I'm assuming you're using) is FPS VR. It costs $4.00 U.S. and is a great tool for seeing your FPS as well as CPU and GPU usage among other things. I don't use it for my reviews because since I own Quest Headsets I buy most of my VR games on Meta's store, so I can get both the Standalone and PC VR versions of the game in one purchase. But yah, FPS VR is a really good tool, here's a link to it on Steam if you'd like to check it out. store.steampowered.com/app/908520/fpsVR/
Does the headroom performance accurately reflect accurate GPU usage/wattage? Noticed GPU usage isn't always a good indicator of the GPU's true potention due to engine design and programming limitations.
As of right now AMD 6000 series GPU's offer a much better value than Nvidia cards do. Like I talked about in my 6650XT video. That card costs the same as a 3050 but performs on par with a 3060 and pricing right now is like that all the way up the stack. You can get a 6950xt right now for as low as $700 and it performs the same as a 3080ti which currently the cheapest one I can find is $850, but most of them are still over $1000. When using the Quest 2 for PCVR, Nvidia's video stream encoding is better than AMD's, but I feel the difference is minimal, and again, only really a problem with the Quest 2. If you use it with any other headset (i.e. RiftS, Valve Index, HP Reverb G2, etc) you're going to be connecting it via an HDMI or Display Port cable, so it will be getting a direct video feed that way rather than having to be encoded on the fly and delivered wirelessly or via a USB link cable.
Does a beefier graphics card and/or high game settings have a noticeable affect on power drain of the headset? eg. comparing 970 vs 4000 series for example.
No. As far as I know and from what I understand, turning up the resolution or game settings will not effect the battery life of a headset like the Quest 2 or Quest 3. Something I know does effect the battery life though is increasing the refresh rate and using AirLink. Running the display at a faster refresh rate uses more juice as does running the WiFi. Running the game at a higher resolution and higher graphics quality settings only taxes your GPU more, the headset is just displaying the image.
@ Maraksot78 it look that there is not so much fps difference beetween 4070ti and 4080 on fs2020 did you confirm ??? I wanna use it on ryzen 3600 for now so may be 4080 will be so much bottleneck compare to 4070 ti that i will no notice any différence ??? is fully acceptable vr experience with 4070 ti on msfs2020 ?? i wanna change my card only to play vr sim
Great video, congrats! I must say, though, this gpu should be tested with a high resolution headset like the Vive Pro 2 or the G2, don't you agree? Cheers
Thanks so much for checking out the video and thank you for the question. At the current time I only own a Quest 2 so that's the headset I use. Not to mention the Quest 2 accounts for 44.26% of all VR headsets currently in use on Steam according to the January 2023 Steam Hardware Survey. In 2nd place is the Valve Index at 16.05%. The Vive Pro 2 is at 0.67% and the Reverb G2 doesn't even make the list; it's just lumped in with 'Other' because there's less than 0.02% of Steam users using them. What I'm saying is the Quest 2 (most likely because of it's affordability) is a very popular headset. Personally I love it for the fact that it can be used for PCVR wirelessly right out of the box which most all other headsets can not do without purchasing some kind of wireless add on device. To try and account for higher resolution headsets though I did run my tests at 4704 x 2384 which is even higher than the native resolution of the HP Reverb G2 and almost as high as the resolution of the Vive Pro 2. On top of that in most games I'm increasing the render scaling above 100% so the GPU is rendering the game at a much higher resolution than the native resolution of the Quest 2. And if you know what Super Sampling is, that's basically what I'm doing. So if I'm understanding all of this correctly, which I believe I am, taking all of this into account the 4080 should be able to handle higher resolution headsets just fine.
You use a USB port on your PC. The Quest 2 uses an encoded video stream through any USB 3.1 port. The USB C port on cards like the RTX 2000 series was called Virtual Link which was a standard that was developed to carry power, data and video all over once cable rather than having 3 separate cables which is how earlier VR headsets worked. I don't know what happened exactly but Virtual Link never really caught on and was ultimately abandoned, which is why new graphics cards don't have that USB C port on them.
Because I feel like it makes the graphics look a little blurry in the headset and it taxes the GPU more. I'd rather use the resources to run at a higher resolution than use AA. Ultimately, it's just my personal preference.
@@Maraksot78 tks, u can help me? My set is 4080+r7 5800x and i play ets2 but the experience its so bad, quest 2 recommend for me 72hz 4128 x 2096 and in game settings normal, but not cool, blurry and bad perfomance, U can help me?
Between the RX 4080 and the RX 7900 XTX which would you take and what variant or version????????????????????? I have a ROG Crosshair VII Dark Hero/ Ryzen 7 5800X3D, mostly will be playing HEAVILY modded Skyrim and Subnautica with the Quest 2 VR headset.
Hey i can’t get Half Life Alyx to run smoothly with oculus settings on max render res with 72hz and 190% render res on steam vr. I still get dropouts even tho i’m on a rtx4090. No man’s sky is even worse. Any ideas what i could be doing wrong?
I don't know. I have hopes the RTX 5090 might be able to at least come close when it comes out, but it may still be another couple generations before we can max out the visuals in MSFS in VR. Maybe the RTX 6090 or RTX 7090, but it's hard to say.
You talking about using DLSS? I've used DLSS in MFSF before and I don't like it. It makes the visuals really blurry. Yes, it does increase the frame rate a lot but the hit to visual fidelity is unacceptable to me so I don't use it. Plus I just want to show raw performance.
@@heartbroken3344 you don't want dlss 3 for VR, it adds shit tons of latency which doesn't make the fps gains worth it at the end, it will make the game feel like shit. I get why many people think they that it would be a great thing for VR but it really isn't, there are plenty of threads on reddit about why dlss 3 is not made for VR
@@PeanutLover11 that makes sense, but what about those who play simulators, they just look around in vr, latency is not a big problem in this scenario I believe, anyway it is better to just test it myself
I have the 7800x3d and the 4080. I also had the 4090. My VR sim racing games run much better and smoother with the 4080-7800x3d combo than the 4090-7800x3d combo. I believe it’s because all the power of the 4080 is utilized and the 4090 isn’t.
To me this is the lowest tier of card that is truly capable of handling current affordable VR headsets, which is a testament to how demanding VR is. Especially since really good picture quality requires much higher resolution headsets, which will need way faster graphics cards. I can't get behind the price, especially since it seems very excessive compared to the production costs. So if prices stay as they are, I plan to skip this generation.
I am interested in the 2077 VRMOD, is it possible to play heavy processing games with ray tracing? Worst case scenario, I don't need ray tracing, but which is the minimum graphics board in the RTX4000 series that can output 4K?
i did notice that when i run the quest 2 at 120hz with cable link, the encode resolution is SUPER low, honestly unbearable, is this just me? at 2384 it usually encodes at around 2400x1280
I really don't get the 4k resolution I can do just about 60fps on 72 hz in msfs on a rtx 4080 laptop with optimization tweaks 1080 resolution is just fine
I was actually doing some benchmarking with a 4070ti today. I'm curious why you want to upgrade to a 4080? In all my testing with the 4070ti I've been able to run just about every game at 4704 X 2384, 120Hz, max settings. Is there a particular game or something you're wanting more performance in?
@Lapo Simoni The additional VRAM makes sense. But yah, in my tests the 4070ti is a beast. Super expensive but a beast none the less. If you do decide to upgrade to the 4080 they use the exact same driver so all you have to do is swap out the graphics cards and you're done. I should mention the 4080 also requires three 8 pin PCIe power plugs if your power supply does not have the new 16 pin 12 volt high power cable. The 4070ti only uses two 8 pin PCIe power cables.
@@Maraksot78 yes I know. Thank you so much for yours feedback. It make me more aware. There are very few benchmark for VR, and I I have not found anything reliable and accurate for 4070ti
Having the settings all on low for msfs2020 gives mediocre visuals. I think saying this card is overkill is a bit of a misnomer when you’re running the settings on low or off.
Yah, I just reinstalled MSFS (gamepass trial) the other week so I could try it in VR...see if it was less boring. It's a different experience in VR, but having to turn everything WAY down from 2D (even with a Quest3/4070ti/5800X3D) basically defeats the purpose of MSFS, which is the beautiful world you fly in. Boredom returned soon after and I uninstalled it, again. Back to the sh!tshow that is DCS VR!
@@Viking8888 i got a 2080 ti for 220€ than a 3080 for 330€ and finally a 4080 for 900€ :D Im not kidding. If I just knew what deals were ahead I would have stopped. The 4080 is worth it , Im selling the other cards now in germany.
I have never tested a 3090ti but according to normal flatscreen benchmarks the 4080 is between 10% and 20% more powerful than a 3090ti depending on the game and from the testing I've done with other GPU's the percentage of performance difference between GPU's is about the same in VR as it is for flat screen games.
The 4080 is faster but it lacks VRAM for newer VR headsets which is shitty as the 3090 ti has the minimum VRAM every new gpu should have at this point. But if u have a headset such as Reverb G2, quest 2, Pico 4 the rtx 4080 is great
Oh my.... my 3080ti is on RMA - you make me wanna buy 4000 series!... if 4080 is 1200$, you might as well go for 4090!... but it will take a new case and PSU as well :(
Yah, the 4080 and 4090 are freakin' massive. They're too long to fit in my Corsair 680X which is the case on my desk behind me in the video. It fits fine in the Antec DP503 my test rig is in though.
Vrchat is extremely unoptimized, and performance is based soley on the avatars loaded on screen, internet speed, and servers. Testing anything on Vrchat would be pointless
It'll probably be easiest to show you the settings I use for AirLink rather than try to explain them here. I have a video where I go over the best settings and stuff I use for AirLink that produce amazing results. ruclips.net/video/-Tt-H4IIdJs/видео.html
That 4080 is not $1199. The Amp Extreme was more like $1399 plus tax, so almost $1500.The Strix OC 4080 is $1500. That shit is way out of hand. I found a sealed/new 4080 from a guy local for $1000 cash. Still too much but easier to swallow. nVidia messed up they when made the 3080 so close to the 3090 in performance and priced the 3080 at $699. If the 3090 was 1500, the 3080 should been more like $900. So now, the 4080 is no where near as close to the 4090 in performance like the 3080 was to the 3090, yet they closed the price gap by $500. Considering core count, power draw and vram, the 4080 should have been $999 retail not $1199. The 4070 ti is trash in VR. The 3090 is better. I would have bought a 7900 XTX but I've heard AMD GPU's are trash in VR. Frametime is king in VR. Well, and lots of VRAM if you play VRChat with 50 ethots in a party world. :):). I will say this. This 4080 is SO efficient, it feels like it's not even working hard at all. It almost feels like it has more in the tank, but the power limit is locked at 100% on my 4080. Also, your 5800x3d is probably contributing a bit to FPS since the 4080 provides more instances where the GPU is not at 100%. Also, the X3D chips are absolute beasts in VR. v-cache seems to really help with frametimes.
For VR even a 4080 isn't quite enough, the issue isn't the GPU itself but rather the VRAM. 4080 is 16gb, while ideally you would want double that. Which limits your options to the 12VHPWR fire hazard that is the 4090. Normally you could throw a 4080 at just about anything currently and run at maxed out settings, except for 4k VR.
There are several reasons but one is I refuse to pay scalper pricing for a 4090. Prices have been coming down recently though, so I'm hoping to get one and testing it in the next month or two. I also want to get a 7900XTX and they've been hard to get too. They're beginning to come available, so I plan to get one of those as soon as possible too. One problem though is all the new cards are so expensive; my channel doesn't earn enough to buy them all. I can only afford one a month and then that leaves very little funds for other content so I have plan things out accordingly.
@@Maraksot78 are you located near a micro center by chance because I see tons of 4090s being sold everyday and sometimes a rare 7900 xtx you just have to be early enough to buy one
I agree. I was hoping for more as well. On average the 4080 is between 20% and 30% faster than a 3080ti and the 6950xt, but it's 50% more money. So not a good value. I thought about taking that angle for the video but every other tech media outlet on the internet has already pointed that out (albeit with flat screen games) so I decided to just show the performance and let people make up their own minds if buying one is worth it to them or not.
@@Maraksot78 I really appreciate you showing the performance of vr titles in a well made and easy to process videos I recommend you try going to cheaper graphics cards I’m sure theirs a large viewer base with weaker cards who’d wanna know what settings they need for vr gaming but I know you got a lot to deal with so take everything at your own pace really
RTX 4080 sits in a place which nobody wants. It is a bad product, because how severely it is cut down. It also lacks performance. When I'm spending this kind of money, I want my GPU to smash all games, however Flight Simulator was underperforming in cities. Furthermore, why I should own RTX 4080 for 1200 euros when RTX 4090 costs 1600 euros and offer far more performance and is flagship/status of luxury too?
@@simcoyote Well, comments like these always forces me to do some homework to fact check information from internet users which are almost always wrong. 1) RTX 4090 has usually around 20 to 40 FPS difference compared to RTX 4080. 2) The best characterization is that average FPS of RTX 4080 are 1% lows of RTX 4090. 3) RTX 4090 is the only 4k capable card. 4) Due to low FPS which these cards generate, difference of 20-40 FPS can be translated to 30-40% performance difference. 5) RTX 4090 performs better in RT heavy applications. So, there is 33% difference in price, but RTX 4090 has comparable advantage in performance. So you are paying more and you are getting more. More performance for more money, but for paying more you get two things: 1) Flagship product which is considered a luxury; 2) More VRAM;
@@simcoyote 4K Cyberpunk: RTX 4080 - 63 FPS RTX 4090 - 81 FPS. RTX 4090 1% lows - 70 FPS. RTX 4090 is 30% faster than RTX 4080 for 33% more money. I would like to mention, it is THE ONLY GPU capable of 4k pathtracing at max settings if DLSS is enabled. Your point about overclocking is pointless. You can overclock RTX 4090 too, duh. You would gain even more performance due to more cores and there are advanced cooling solutions which makes heat non issue like AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 XTREME WATERFORCE. Seems to me that you bought historically bad GPU and now you are doing post-purchase rationalization.
IT woud be fantastic if you did similar benchmark for this GPU but for PCVR moded games such as Resident Evil 7, Cyberpunk etc. I think this would be perfect use case for this card.
wow never thought to try cyberpunk VR, maybe now that i got my 4080 super ill give it a go
Just got mine for VR, this video helped me overcome my guilt of paying so much for it. Thanks and great work!
well, my oculus has been sitting in its box for quite some time now, haven't used it much recently to be honest... I got myself a rtx4080 though recently and I'm quite happy with it... I know, it is outragely expensive but well, it's one of the luxuries I treat myself to... this might be a great time to get into VR one more time 🙂
PC VR is where it's at IMO. For a stand alone device I think the Quest 2 provides a really good VR experience but the Quest 2's display is capable of much higher resolution visuals than stand alone games can take advantage of. With a GPU like the 4080 you can see just how good games can actually look on the Quest 2.
Play rdr2 in vr. Blasted bheeks has a video about it that's so good it'll probably get me to buy a headset soon
enjoy the uevr injector, and play a lot of classic games in vr ;°)
Great video. I have a Zotac 4080 on the way to replace my 2080ti. I also have a 5800x3d so your setup gave me a great idea of performance to expect. I do a lot of VR flying and Sim Racing. I am however using a Vive XR Elite headset so hopefully it can handle the higher resolutions it supports.
I just updated my pc with a 4080 and 5800x3d from a 2080 abd 3700x...haven't tried vr yet but cyberpunk on max settings gets over 100fps so I think it will do fine lol
Now you gotta make a 4070 ti video. Just for fun 😅.
Holy crap, amazing benchmark! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Is Oculus Airlink using H.264 or H.265 encoding ?
How does your testing compared to Virtual Desktop ?
very goog review. I was battling between 4080 or a PSVR 2 to just plug and play. Think I will do the GPU instead as it offers plethora of already owned games to run shiny
Thanks for the review. Prices are dropping here in Australia thanks to the Super. I purchased the PNY 4080 non super variant for USD 990 with tax all inclusive.
Just ordered a RTX 4080 Ryzen 7 5800 X3D combo. I can wait to have my VR games looking awesome
Awesome man! Congrats! Oh boy, are they ever gonna look good my man. Assuming you've got all your settings dialed in of course. 😅
That's the one thing about PC gaming in general... you've gotta get everything setup right and dialed in yourself. But if you like to tinker and stuff, then that is all part of the fun. 😀👍🏻
Just ordered a 4080 Super yesterday and when too hear someone talk about VR performance. Figured this would be the closest since they're very similar cards. Thanks! Im a VR head already so im excited to jump into UEVR!
Edit: I had a 2070 Super btw. I'm crushing everything that I throw at it.
you might get a little boost depending on the game but other than that most games offer same performance its kind of strange since the super has more cuda cores and rt cores
maybe we gotta wait till nvidia releases a new driver for the 4080 super maybe that'll fix performance
whats your cpu btw ?
@@loledas-d1n Sorry for the delayed response. I have a Ryzen 9 5900x. GPU prior was a 2070 Super, so my performance increase was way more than worth it.
hello how are you finding 4080 super with uevr? im ready to pull the trigger on this one lol
@@electalexeng Unfortunately I haven't given it a go yet. :( Been so busy with work and my new baby that I haven't taken the time to deepdive in the UEVR software yet.
You should consider adding "Into the Radius" to your benchmark gauntlet. It beats the heck out of my gigabyte gmaing oc 4080 and 12400f setup at 5408x2736 90hz while still looking a bit soft. Oculus debug settings were changed to increase resolution/ performance and in fact, i dont even have the ingame settings maxed out and im crutching hard on vrperfkit and fsr to maintain 90fps. definitley could be cpu limited but not by much
Thanks for the suggestion on Into the Radius. I'll look into it.
I've found that cranking the render resolution in the Oculus App all the way up doesn't look as good as 4704 X 2384, which is why that's the resolution I ran on everthing for this video. Not exactly sure why that is, but it is something I've noticed doing all the testing I've done. My guess is it probably has something to do with stream compression; where the amount of data being sent to the headset is so high, once it's compressed into a deliverable package, things have been downgraded to the point they look soft and blurry? Don't know for sure though, just a theory. What I do know is stuff looks amazing on the Quest 2 at 4704 x 2384 so I stick with it.
@@Maraksot78 it's a theory I'll have to try, Thanks!
12700k and 1.5 multiplier with 4080. Into the radius runs 120 locked on my setup. All options maxed!
Drooling. Wish I could do a PC for vr. Outa my price range for a while though. Going to stick to playing quest native all blurry and crap 😩
It’s almost 2000 dollars here in Sweden lol, still feel like buying one tho, I’m currently using a computer with a 980ti, and I just built a really high end system. Only component missing is the GPU.
Thank you so much for this in depth video. 💯🔥
I Norge kjøpte jeg en MSI 4080 GAMING X for NOK 16000Kr
@@solmesteren I found an MSI Gaming X Trio for 1200$ + 23% VAT in Poland (6000PLN)
Now the rtx 4090 is $1800 to $2000, got the msi rtx 4080 trio for $1300. Will use the extra $500 towards a new cpu and a new motherboard.
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 using Virtual Desktop with all settings on ultra runs flawlessly! Amazing! Most PCVR games really benefit from running faster DDR5 RAM. I'm running my ram at 7000Mhz with an i5 13600k Overclocked at 5,4Ghz. it just Walks all over modded Assetto Corsa with traffic mods, nothing I throw at it drops below my targeted 120 FPS in VR
how do you connect your headset to your pc? you have a seperate wifi dongle to an usb port?
Would have been nice if you mentioned what headset and connection was used.
Why are you running the resolution 4704x2384 on Quest 2? For 1:1 pixel mapping (native resolution) you need to run at 5408x2736 as after image transformations you end up with native resolution, info. from John Carmack. It would be good to see though how these GPUs fare when trying to drive the headset at it's native resolution rather than sub sampled.
He said in another comment that he chose that resolution because 5408x2736 looks bad when compressed and that 4704x2384 looks better to him probably because of the stream compression to PC, less res = less pixelation and softness, now I don't know how true any of that is since I don't own a Quest 2. I'm just repeating what he said.
hey quick question i know the video is old but why aren't you testing the 4080 at 5408 x 2736 like how you did with your 6950 xt? im sure the 4080 has the power for it
“Hold my stutters.”
- Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
I honestly don’t know how you are getting a solid 120fps in HLA with headroom to spare?
I have using windows 10 a 5800X3D + strix 4080 super OC, playing on PSVR2 using a 2800x2856 resolution (68%) in steamVR and can barely get 100fps on high settings!
Have you done anything in your bios regarding the 5800X3D? Have you enabled/disabled any particular windows settings? Like I don’t get how you’re getting a solid 120??
Just last week I built a new system with a core I7 13700k 32gb Corsair Dominator ram and a Gigabyte rtx 4080. I do a LOT of VR gaming, the performance uplift from my Ryzen7 5800x/ GTX 1070ti is nothing short of awe inspiring. I can go up to 500% increase in screen resolution in project cars and Resident Evil Village and still get a buttery smooth framerate, Used to have to knock them down to 90 to get a good framerate on the old card. I want to test Lone Echo2 but I have a Valve Index running revive and the controllers seem to sort of lock up on starting the game, anyone know a fix? Thanks!
Update: a new version of revive came out and I no longer have any issues with Oculus/Meta games with revive on the Valve Index Including Lone Echo2. LE2 is the best VR experience in my opinion with graphics better than Alyx.
Thank you man for making this video!
What processor chip were you using with the 4080?
Im in the process of building a computer with the 4080 and the i7 13700k
Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Could you please include No Men's Sky in your checks? It's quite a demanding game with long gameplay.
Did you ever test the 4090? I'm getting my quest 3 tuesday and looking at GPU upgrades for Airlink/PCVR and since the new Q3 supports AV1 apparently the 4090 is a beast at AV1 encoding but having a hard time finding a comparison 4080 vs 4090 for performance lol. Trying to decide if it's worth the extra $400 since I'm already spending so much with the 4080.
I have not yet gotten my hands on a 4090. I really want to get one but I just haven't been able to justify the purchase. I buy all the GPU's I test; I don't have any kind of sponsorship that gets me them for free, so I have to kinda pick and choose which GPU's I test and right now it's the lower end stuff since I can get two or three graphics cards for what it would cost me to get one 4090. 😅 Again, I really hope to get a 4090 one of these days, but as of right now I'm working on the 4060ti 16GB this week and then I have the RX 7700XT and RX 7800XT in the queue after that and currently no money to buy any more GPU's until the RUclips ad revenue comes in later this month. 😂
@@Maraksot78 no worries lol was just curious. Need to find a friend that always has the latest and greatest so you can borrow it haha.
@@Dougie085 I'm that friend to all my friends. 😂
love these videos.
I have a 5800x3d and 4080 and have just been running Virtual Desktop, but I am looking to move to the cable as I cant seem to get stutter free in VD and the video quality up to snuff in AirLink.
You share the in game settings for each game, I was curious what the Oculus and Oculus Debug settings are for this setup (Independantly of the game settings on each section of the video).
Keep up the amazing content!
With Nividia GPU's I typically only set Link Sharpening to Normal in ODT and leave everything else at default. As for Air Link, after launching it, I leave the bitrate on dynamic but set the slider all the way to the right at 200Mbps. When using a Link cable it's always at 200Mbps and you can't change it. Everything else I do for AirLink has to do with router settings. The biggest one is setting the channel bandwidth to 80MHz, but yah for the most part I try to keep it simple for people that are more of the plug and play mentality.
@@Maraksot78 thank you for the super quick response. I think I will reset all of the settings, go back to basics and make the changes you outline and check the results. Expecting the cable to show up shortly.
Thanks again!!
MSFS is to modern VR what Crysis was to PC gaming in 2007
its crazy that you can get a i5 13400f with the 4080 rtx (32gb ram) from nzxt player one and it runs the walking dead vr game nearly on everything ultra, it in fact ran so smooth on ultra but after playing for an hour, it started lagging, i dont know if its other applications being running in the background but the price tag is only around 1200 dollars
Which "render resolution" do you imply? In SteamVR? per app? or general steamvr res? what
Any chance you could throw After the fall into your VR benchmarks please?
Awesome I am totally gonna save up for a 4080. :)
It would be nice to maybe add what is your setting in oculus app. I just changed from the rx6950xt to the 4080, hopping the oculus cable would be better, and I still have a massive performance difference between cable and Steam Link. No idea why. I don't visually see a difference...
cant wait for mine to arrive. I recently upgraded to a quest pro and found that my 3070ti just could not drive it at its native resolution without running into Vram limitations
What was the temps though? because I played dcs with the settings set to medium and my Rtx 4080 got up to around 84 - 87 degrees with a hp reverb G2.
hey buddy.
Awesome Vid.
Could you please tell me which in VR FPS program you are using? This is shown directly in VR as well, right?
Thanks in advance
Cheerz
Tom
Thanks for checking out the video and for the comment. To see the performance in real time in VR I use the Performance Overlay in the Oculus Debug Tool. It's kinda buried, but comes with the Meta Quest Link PC application. You have to navigate to it using Windows Explorer. You'll find it in C://ProgramFiles/Oculus/Support/oculus-diagnostics. Double click OculusDebugTool to launch it and toward the bottom you'll see HUDs and to the right of Visible HUD it will say None. Click on None and you'll see a dropdown appear, select Performance from the drop down and the overlay you see in this video will come up in your headset. If you click the + sign next to Performance HUD you can then select what graphs/info you want to see. The main two I use is Performance Summary and Oculus Link. Hope this is useful. Cheers.
@@Maraksot78
Hii. Thx a lot for the detailled answer….forgot to mention that I am using a Crystal Light 😂🙈
Oh! Well that does change things a bit. An app I've used before that is really good for Steam VR games (which is what I'm assuming you're using) is FPS VR. It costs $4.00 U.S. and is a great tool for seeing your FPS as well as CPU and GPU usage among other things. I don't use it for my reviews because since I own Quest Headsets I buy most of my VR games on Meta's store, so I can get both the Standalone and PC VR versions of the game in one purchase. But yah, FPS VR is a really good tool, here's a link to it on Steam if you'd like to check it out.
store.steampowered.com/app/908520/fpsVR/
Are you doing this via cable or over airlink/VD?
Now is this cabled or airlink cause that'll make a huge difference on what settings will play smooth.
Does the headroom performance accurately reflect accurate GPU usage/wattage? Noticed GPU usage isn't always a good indicator of the GPU's true potention due to engine design and programming limitations.
Great video, of all the videos you've done have you got a nvidia or ATI brand preference? What brand would you consider as a value VR card? Thanks
As of right now AMD 6000 series GPU's offer a much better value than Nvidia cards do. Like I talked about in my 6650XT video. That card costs the same as a 3050 but performs on par with a 3060 and pricing right now is like that all the way up the stack. You can get a 6950xt right now for as low as $700 and it performs the same as a 3080ti which currently the cheapest one I can find is $850, but most of them are still over $1000.
When using the Quest 2 for PCVR, Nvidia's video stream encoding is better than AMD's, but I feel the difference is minimal, and again, only really a problem with the Quest 2. If you use it with any other headset (i.e. RiftS, Valve Index, HP Reverb G2, etc) you're going to be connecting it via an HDMI or Display Port cable, so it will be getting a direct video feed that way rather than having to be encoded on the fly and delivered wirelessly or via a USB link cable.
So having this good of a pc with this graphics card be good to pair with the quest 3?
Funny i have the same exact model GPU, CPU and RAM. You dont have a Lian Li Evo case do ya lol?
Does a beefier graphics card and/or high game settings have a noticeable affect on power drain of the headset? eg. comparing 970 vs 4000 series for example.
No. As far as I know and from what I understand, turning up the resolution or game settings will not effect the battery life of a headset like the Quest 2 or Quest 3. Something I know does effect the battery life though is increasing the refresh rate and using AirLink. Running the display at a faster refresh rate uses more juice as does running the WiFi. Running the game at a higher resolution and higher graphics quality settings only taxes your GPU more, the headset is just displaying the image.
So where are you changing all of these settings? In nvidia control panel?
I have the Ryzen 7 7800X3D with the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX and it slays!
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Maraksot78 it look that there is not so much fps difference beetween 4070ti and 4080 on fs2020 did you confirm ??? I wanna use it on ryzen 3600 for now so may be 4080 will be so much bottleneck compare to 4070 ti that i will no notice any différence ??? is fully acceptable vr experience with 4070 ti on msfs2020 ?? i wanna change my card only to play vr sim
How do you set that render resolution? with OpenXR Tookit?
Have you tested this with Blade and Sorcery?
I have almost the same hardware set up as you, (same GPU and CPU) but my pc can barely run my valve index at max setting. Massive frame drops
This was on 4080 and Quest 2 correct?
Great video, congrats! I must say, though, this gpu should be tested with a high resolution headset like the Vive Pro 2 or the G2, don't you agree? Cheers
Thanks so much for checking out the video and thank you for the question. At the current time I only own a Quest 2 so that's the headset I use. Not to mention the Quest 2 accounts for 44.26% of all VR headsets currently in use on Steam according to the January 2023 Steam Hardware Survey. In 2nd place is the Valve Index at 16.05%. The Vive Pro 2 is at 0.67% and the Reverb G2 doesn't even make the list; it's just lumped in with 'Other' because there's less than 0.02% of Steam users using them. What I'm saying is the Quest 2 (most likely because of it's affordability) is a very popular headset. Personally I love it for the fact that it can be used for PCVR wirelessly right out of the box which most all other headsets can not do without purchasing some kind of wireless add on device. To try and account for higher resolution headsets though I did run my tests at 4704 x 2384 which is even higher than the native resolution of the HP Reverb G2 and almost as high as the resolution of the Vive Pro 2. On top of that in most games I'm increasing the render scaling above 100% so the GPU is rendering the game at a much higher resolution than the native resolution of the Quest 2. And if you know what Super Sampling is, that's basically what I'm doing. So if I'm understanding all of this correctly, which I believe I am, taking all of this into account the 4080 should be able to handle higher resolution headsets just fine.
How were you able to run the 4080 RTX with quest link? (Not the wifi link but wired one)
You use a USB port on your PC. The Quest 2 uses an encoded video stream through any USB 3.1 port. The USB C port on cards like the RTX 2000 series was called Virtual Link which was a standard that was developed to carry power, data and video all over once cable rather than having 3 separate cables which is how earlier VR headsets worked. I don't know what happened exactly but Virtual Link never really caught on and was ultimately abandoned, which is why new graphics cards don't have that USB C port on them.
Hi! Why u dont use anti allising?
Because I feel like it makes the graphics look a little blurry in the headset and it taxes the GPU more. I'd rather use the resources to run at a higher resolution than use AA. Ultimately, it's just my personal preference.
@@Maraksot78 tks, u can help me? My set is 4080+r7 5800x and i play ets2 but the experience its so bad, quest 2 recommend for me 72hz 4128 x 2096 and in game settings normal, but not cool, blurry and bad perfomance, U can help me?
Between the RX 4080 and the RX 7900 XTX which would you take and what variant or version????????????????????? I have a ROG Crosshair VII Dark Hero/ Ryzen 7 5800X3D, mostly will be playing HEAVILY modded Skyrim and Subnautica with the Quest 2 VR headset.
Right now, just because of Nvidia having better driver support, I'd go with the 4080. As for which model I'd go with, which ever one I could afford. 😂
Hey i can’t get Half Life Alyx to run smoothly with oculus settings on max render res with 72hz and 190% render res on steam vr. I still get dropouts even tho i’m on a rtx4090. No man’s sky is even worse. Any ideas what i could be doing wrong?
Run steam vr at 100% render res and boost your res in the oculus software.
Bryan have you ever tried Ready or not? is a swat like fps and you can even play it with vr if you use a mod!
I have not. Your comment is the first time I've hear about it.
when do you think well be able to max all settings in vr on msfs
I don't know. I have hopes the RTX 5090 might be able to at least come close when it comes out, but it may still be another couple generations before we can max out the visuals in MSFS in VR. Maybe the RTX 6090 or RTX 7090, but it's hard to say.
I'm surprised you didn't mention frame generation and how that affected frame rates in MSFS.
You talking about using DLSS? I've used DLSS in MFSF before and I don't like it. It makes the visuals really blurry. Yes, it does increase the frame rate a lot but the hit to visual fidelity is unacceptable to me so I don't use it. Plus I just want to show raw performance.
@@Maraksot78 he was talking about DLSS 3 (frame generation in particular) which from what I can see doesn’t sacrifice image quality in any way
@@heartbroken3344 you don't want dlss 3 for VR, it adds shit tons of latency which doesn't make the fps gains worth it at the end, it will make the game feel like shit. I get why many people think they that it would be a great thing for VR but it really isn't, there are plenty of threads on reddit about why dlss 3 is not made for VR
@@PeanutLover11 that makes sense, but what about those who play simulators, they just look around in vr, latency is not a big problem in this scenario I believe, anyway it is better to just test it myself
I have the 7800x3d and the 4080. I also had the 4090. My VR sim racing games run much better and smoother with the 4080-7800x3d combo than the 4090-7800x3d combo. I believe it’s because all the power of the 4080 is utilized and the 4090 isn’t.
so your saying theirs a slight chance i might be able to play blade&sorcery with more then 60 fps and no stutters? miraculous.
How much better is it than running it on headset
To me this is the lowest tier of card that is truly capable of handling current affordable VR headsets, which is a testament to how demanding VR is. Especially since really good picture quality requires much higher resolution headsets, which will need way faster graphics cards.
I can't get behind the price, especially since it seems very excessive compared to the production costs. So if prices stay as they are, I plan to skip this generation.
I am interested in the 2077 VRMOD, is it possible to play heavy processing games with ray tracing?
Worst case scenario, I don't need ray tracing, but which is the minimum graphics board in the RTX4000 series that can output 4K?
You would need 16GB VRAM for that at least IMHO. So either the 4080 or a 7900 XT or XTX. 6800 XT at the lowest I would say.
I bought a 4070ti.
If VR is fun, I would like to buy a new one in the 5000 series. Thanks.
@@Penguin13692 Congrats on Your purchase! May Your frames be high and temps low! :)
can you use geforce now with your own wired vr system?
i did notice that when i run the quest 2 at 120hz with cable link, the encode resolution is SUPER low, honestly unbearable, is this just me? at 2384 it usually encodes at around 2400x1280
I really don't get the 4k resolution I can do just about 60fps on 72 hz in msfs on a rtx 4080 laptop with optimization tweaks 1080 resolution is just fine
I'm a 4070 ti owner.
I'm considering to upgrade to 4080 for VR. it would be a huge indication know how much convenient it is this upgrade. Thank you
I was actually doing some benchmarking with a 4070ti today. I'm curious why you want to upgrade to a 4080? In all my testing with the 4070ti I've been able to run just about every game at 4704 X 2384, 120Hz, max settings. Is there a particular game or something you're wanting more performance in?
@@Maraksot78 actually on a whim and future proof(VRAM and low bus on 4070 ti make me worry).
@@Maraksot78 but I'm relieved to hear that
@Lapo Simoni The additional VRAM makes sense. But yah, in my tests the 4070ti is a beast. Super expensive but a beast none the less. If you do decide to upgrade to the 4080 they use the exact same driver so all you have to do is swap out the graphics cards and you're done. I should mention the 4080 also requires three 8 pin PCIe power plugs if your power supply does not have the new 16 pin 12 volt high power cable. The 4070ti only uses two 8 pin PCIe power cables.
@@Maraksot78 yes I know.
Thank you so much for yours feedback. It make me more aware.
There are very few benchmark for VR, and I I have not found anything reliable and accurate for 4070ti
Would it still make sense to get 4080 if I have intel i7-8700k CPU?
I'm a user with a 8700k. This CPU struggling a lot with a 2080... It's completed non gaming.
@@William3143 thanks. I am replacing it with 13700k
Having the settings all on low for msfs2020 gives mediocre visuals. I think saying this card is overkill is a bit of a misnomer when you’re running the settings on low or off.
Yah, I just reinstalled MSFS (gamepass trial) the other week so I could try it in VR...see if it was less boring. It's a different experience in VR, but having to turn everything WAY down from 2D (even with a Quest3/4070ti/5800X3D) basically defeats the purpose of MSFS, which is the beautiful world you fly in. Boredom returned soon after and I uninstalled it, again. Back to the sh!tshow that is DCS VR!
only reason i got the 4090 when it launched lol
It looks like the 4080 is the one for me. I just won't touch it until I can get one brand new for under a grand.
You'd wait 6 to 12 months to save 200 bucks ?
@@sasuke20989 I'm still saving. Unfortunately I don't even have a grand at this point, so waiting is my only option anyway.
@@Viking8888 i got a 2080 ti for 220€ than a 3080 for 330€ and finally a 4080 for 900€ :D Im not kidding. If I just knew what deals were ahead I would have stopped. The 4080 is worth it , Im selling the other cards now in germany.
Not gonna happen till 5000 series which is in 2025 even then is a stretch we are talking about Nvidia
Browsing through cause getting sub 120hz with 4090 is stupid in beat saber lol.
So which one is better in vr 4080 or 3090ti?
I have never tested a 3090ti but according to normal flatscreen benchmarks the 4080 is between 10% and 20% more powerful than a 3090ti depending on the game and from the testing I've done with other GPU's the percentage of performance difference between GPU's is about the same in VR as it is for flat screen games.
The 4080 is faster but it lacks VRAM for newer VR headsets which is shitty as the 3090 ti has the minimum VRAM every new gpu should have at this point. But if u have a headset such as Reverb G2, quest 2, Pico 4 the rtx 4080 is great
Awe too bad that he didnt test out one of the best vr games Blade & Sorcery
Oh my.... my 3080ti is on RMA - you make me wanna buy 4000 series!... if 4080 is 1200$, you might as well go for 4090!... but it will take a new case and PSU as well :(
Yah, the 4080 and 4090 are freakin' massive. They're too long to fit in my Corsair 680X which is the case on my desk behind me in the video. It fits fine in the Antec DP503 my test rig is in though.
Bro didnt played vrchat. bruh
Vrchat is extremely unoptimized, and performance is based soley on the avatars loaded on screen, internet speed, and servers. Testing anything on Vrchat would be pointless
@SubbyPuppy you act like it's 200% server-side, vrchat behaves like a fat kid and outright snatches your RAM and core usage.
I got the 4080 super and it kills in vr
If they give the 4060 12gigz of V-Ram,then that's what I'll get
im so NOT impressed. What kinda GPU do you even need to run VR games on ultra settings??
I guess I'll stick with 3080ti for now
bitrate settings ???
I do my testing with everything at the default out of the box settings because I feel like that's what the majority of people are going to do.
@@Maraksot78 I mean airlink bitrate, can you answer please? :) 100 mbit, 200 mbit or other? sorry, if my english is bad
It'll probably be easiest to show you the settings I use for AirLink rather than try to explain them here. I have a video where I go over the best settings and stuff I use for AirLink that produce amazing results.
ruclips.net/video/-Tt-H4IIdJs/видео.html
That 4080 is not $1199. The Amp Extreme was more like $1399 plus tax, so almost $1500.The Strix OC 4080 is $1500. That shit is way out of hand. I found a sealed/new 4080 from a guy local for $1000 cash. Still too much but easier to swallow. nVidia messed up they when made the 3080 so close to the 3090 in performance and priced the 3080 at $699. If the 3090 was 1500, the 3080 should been more like $900. So now, the 4080 is no where near as close to the 4090 in performance like the 3080 was to the 3090, yet they closed the price gap by $500. Considering core count, power draw and vram, the 4080 should have been $999 retail not $1199. The 4070 ti is trash in VR. The 3090 is better.
I would have bought a 7900 XTX but I've heard AMD GPU's are trash in VR. Frametime is king in VR. Well, and lots of VRAM if you play VRChat with 50 ethots in a party world. :):). I will say this. This 4080 is SO efficient, it feels like it's not even working hard at all. It almost feels like it has more in the tank, but the power limit is locked at 100% on my 4080. Also, your 5800x3d is probably contributing a bit to FPS since the 4080 provides more instances where the GPU is not at 100%. Also, the X3D chips are absolute beasts in VR. v-cache seems to really help with frametimes.
Why is the 4070 ti trash in VR?
For VR even a 4080 isn't quite enough, the issue isn't the GPU itself but rather the VRAM. 4080 is 16gb, while ideally you would want double that. Which limits your options to the 12VHPWR fire hazard that is the 4090. Normally you could throw a 4080 at just about anything currently and run at maxed out settings, except for 4k VR.
Just play saints ans sinners on a 4090 and all you issues will be gone😂😂😂
test RTX 4090 plz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think the walking dead is running bad bc your running it at 12”
With all respect in what universe 4704x2384 is high resolution? These days really high resolution is 3000x3000ish per eye.
My main question with this video is why didn’t you buy the 4090 lmao
Also I’d like to say that the performance of the 4080 was really disappointing compared to the 6950 xt bench you did a while back
There are several reasons but one is I refuse to pay scalper pricing for a 4090. Prices have been coming down recently though, so I'm hoping to get one and testing it in the next month or two.
I also want to get a 7900XTX and they've been hard to get too. They're beginning to come available, so I plan to get one of those as soon as possible too.
One problem though is all the new cards are so expensive; my channel doesn't earn enough to buy them all. I can only afford one a month and then that leaves very little funds for other content so I have plan things out accordingly.
@@Maraksot78 are you located near a micro center by chance because I see tons of 4090s being sold everyday and sometimes a rare 7900 xtx you just have to be early enough to buy one
I agree. I was hoping for more as well. On average the 4080 is between 20% and 30% faster than a 3080ti and the 6950xt, but it's 50% more money. So not a good value. I thought about taking that angle for the video but every other tech media outlet on the internet has already pointed that out (albeit with flat screen games) so I decided to just show the performance and let people make up their own minds if buying one is worth it to them or not.
@@Maraksot78 I really appreciate you showing the performance of vr titles in a well made and easy to process videos I recommend you try going to cheaper graphics cards I’m sure theirs a large viewer base with weaker cards who’d wanna know what settings they need for vr gaming but I know you got a lot to deal with so take everything at your own pace really
RTX 4080 sits in a place which nobody wants. It is a bad product, because how severely it is cut down. It also lacks performance. When I'm spending this kind of money, I want my GPU to smash all games, however Flight Simulator was underperforming in cities. Furthermore, why I should own RTX 4080 for 1200 euros when RTX 4090 costs 1600 euros and offer far more performance and is flagship/status of luxury too?
@@simcoyote Well, comments like these always forces me to do some homework to fact check information from internet users which are almost always wrong.
1) RTX 4090 has usually around 20 to 40 FPS difference compared to RTX 4080.
2) The best characterization is that average FPS of RTX 4080 are 1% lows of RTX 4090.
3) RTX 4090 is the only 4k capable card.
4) Due to low FPS which these cards generate, difference of 20-40 FPS can be translated to 30-40% performance difference.
5) RTX 4090 performs better in RT heavy applications.
So, there is 33% difference in price, but RTX 4090 has comparable advantage in performance. So you are paying more and you are getting more. More performance for more money, but for paying more you get two things:
1) Flagship product which is considered a luxury;
2) More VRAM;
@@simcoyote
4K Cyberpunk:
RTX 4080 - 63 FPS
RTX 4090 - 81 FPS. RTX 4090 1% lows - 70 FPS.
RTX 4090 is 30% faster than RTX 4080 for 33% more money.
I would like to mention, it is THE ONLY GPU capable of 4k pathtracing at max settings if DLSS is enabled.
Your point about overclocking is pointless. You can overclock RTX 4090 too, duh. You would gain even more performance due to more cores and there are advanced cooling solutions which makes heat non issue like AORUS GeForce RTX 4090 XTREME WATERFORCE.
Seems to me that you bought historically bad GPU and now you are doing post-purchase rationalization.