here's a fun detail i enjoy. Asriel (as flowey and as himself) consistently greets the player with "howdy!", a habit that you can later infer he picked up from asgore. meanwhile, the first fallen human (default name Chara) says "Greetings", which is _toriel's_ habit
and according to the alarm clock dialogue, asriel also copied chara's water-glass-filling habits. seems like the dreemurr kids just had a thing for copying people. not even asriel/flowey's laugh is original. toriel laughs with a "hee hee hee" literally right before flowey shows back up in pacifist.
As someone who loved Undertale from day one, it makes my day to see all these years later people experiencing it for the first time. It's so rare now. That silence at the first "but nobody came." was EVERYTHING
Undyne melted when you killed her because in that fight she somehow generated determination, her body eventually couldn’t take the strain anymore and melted before turning into dust, the melting also happened to the amalgamates due to the determination in their system and monsters fused together and formed them
@@jellydad6113 nothing specifies that, the game just says that the monsters can't have too much determination in them cuz otherwise they melt, but never mentions if just external DT
I wouldn’t be surprised if I died over 200 times to this guy lol (stayed determined tho!!!!!!!!!) Yes, I know I have a skill issue. I pride myself on sucking at any game I play.
I made my gf play through the pacifist run and then bought the game for myself for the sole purpose of never tainting that happy safe file. Forever untouched and free.
But wouldn't it be fun to see his reaction? After all... he's not in control... With enough pressure, he will succumb... And be forced to make friends all over again... Only then will he understand... Consequences cannot be avoided... After all... The higher they are... T H E H A R D E R T H E Y F A L L
"After this is all over, I'm going through on my own time and doing everything my own way so everybody gets their happy ending" Oh... yeah. They deserve that happiness.
32:35 This is the point that Sans talked about. The more you distance yourself, the easier it becomes to hurt others. 'Taking her out.' 'Getting into a rhythm.' 'I did it, this is a big moment'. This is the point where I can hear Therm speak like he is playing a game and this is a challenge that needs to be conquered. Forgetting that you are the villian and the true hero does not stand a chance. The same thing happens when people fight Sans, they get frustrated and only... once the final blow hits do they realize what they've done.
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906ive never played undertale and am not nearly as knowledgeable on it as i am Deltarune, so I've got no clue what's going on, but like. Wasn't Chara murderous before they died? Didn't they poison Asgore or something?
@@existenceispain_geekthesirenChara poisoned themselves so that they would die, so Asriel could take their soul. I do feel like clarifying it's implied Chara still isn't an amazing person, though. Even before the whole "becoming evil" thing.
sorry idk why i'm just DYING at the completely unexpected baseball tier-list at the end of the video. what a great way to diffuse the tension after a really emotionally rough run.
I absolutely love the True Reset, Toby’s final tug on your heartstrings by making the villain of the game beg you to not erase the happy ending you worked so hard to get everyone Yet his speech is said with a feeling of inevitability, he knows that it’s likely that you’ll go back and ruin everything, that anyone who loves the world enough won’t listen Then you get to the menu, and see the True Reset itself, and it’s amazing The usually lively file select screen that’s normally populated with the characters doing fun things, is now completely empty, barren of all the monsters because they’re all gone, they have no reason to stay in this abandoned mountain, but you’re here, even though you shouldn’t be, like them, you should leave this Undertale and head back to the surface, you aren’t meant to be here, and that atmosphere is emphasised by the droning music in the background, it’s slow, horrid, the type of stuff you’d only hear on the genocide route, and it’s fitting because being here, hovering over that true reset button is a form of starting that genocide, first you kill their happy ending and then you kill them (You can actually hear this droning music in the video if you listen closely on the menu screen 1:33) But yeah, amazing work by Toby to make you feel like crap before you’ve even began the geno route
having flowey be the one to give you that talk as well also hits so hard, and not just cause he was the villain. he was the villain that YOU worked so hard to redeem in the pacifist route. you literally talked to him and comforted him and worked together with him to break the barrier and give everyone that happy ending. By resetting, you're essentially throwing that all out in front of him, and although he cant feel any compassion anymore, he can certainly feel despair. and betrayal.
This route literally just destroys your humanity. At the beginning, he was guilty for killing one froggit but by the end you could tell he didn't give a crap anymore
If you spare Sans, he doesn't actually spare you. The soul they're referring to at the very end of that route isn't the heart that appears in combats... It's the *player's* soul. In this case, your soul... You being Therm. Sometimes people will react to things they shouldn't know from previous playthroughs, like Toriel guessing your previous answer to the Cinnamon vs Butterscotch question. When you play through this time, you'll likely get a little bit of new dialog or whatever here and there... But probably not enough for a whole new video.
Fun fact: The I Frames in Undertale are called Mercy Frames. Depending on the fight your Mercy Frames differ. It's the amount of time before you can take damage after being damaged by an attack, and things can influence it. For example the more of an enemy type you spare, the more Mercy Frames you get. The monster is showing you Mercy. Sans gives you no Mercy Frames. He does 1 damage, every frame. Quite literally no Mercy. Also, in Undertale you do damage based on your intent to hurt. That's why boss monsters are almost always instant killed. And why Sans takes 999999 damage. Your character is pissed.
No they arent, and no it isnt. What, with the notebook suddenly people dont wanna hit you as much? As for the damage, if it was, how come we dont instantly kill literally everything. Sans takes 999999 damage because his defense is 1.
@@Omarlol3rd Omega flowey has his defense drop to literal zero and takes nowhere near that much dmg. Also you straight up gave no reason or explanation for all of the other bosses that died in one hit lmao.
@@wasperfly im unsure if what the commenter said was right or wrong an im too lazy to do it but im pretty sure the reason why other bosses die in 1 hit is because of your murder lv
41:57 This is extremely funny because Undertale speedrunners use the Burnt Pan, and if you hit all 4 crits (frame perfect inputs, by the way), you will do more damage than a crit with the Real Knife. So your decision to use the Burnt Pan instead of the Real Knife was technically correct lmao
I played the genocide route twice, and failed twice, I could NEVER do it, the first time was at papyrus, and the second time was at sans, I think the sans getting dunked on was a fitting ending, I always imagined it as Frisk gaining control back, and ending it before it could never be fixed.
This route is so sad. I once watched an analysis video on it and it's crazy how Sans dialouge during the 'Judgement' scene reflects what happens when the player goes into genocide.
can we also talk about how flowey literally just casually drops the fact that he, a literal child, became suicidal because he couldn't love and tried to kill himself which is how he found out he could save????? thats SO FUCKING SAD.
I'm gonna be completely honest I cried when I did my first genocide run. I just get way to attached to the characters. It hurts so much then you have to kill them.
THANK YOU [[Thermal Energy]] FOR MAKING A [[BIG SHOT]] MOVE, [[You are now eligible for a new]] MY [[Commemorative Ring]], ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS [[GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!]]
Undyne is the best character. She had the determination to keep fighting forever. But the monster soul cannot handle it. She was prepared to fight forever but when she lost using everything she had, her body couldn’t handle anymore. She didn’t ever die to death. She died to her own will to live.
Bro holy, the fact that you know so much of the lore AND the accuracy of it too? That's genuinely insane, especially as a first playthrough. Very impressive
I like to call this route a clensation of the underground. First time i died over 74 times against undyne the undying and RESET when i had to fight sans This time i only died under 40 times maybe between 24 deaths and i am still fighting against sans
44:40 Oh, no. Flowey is talking about *YOU.* He's talking to Frisk/the first human, but the player(As in, you) is a separate entity altogether, and that's who he's referring to. A being who wants to see what happens, but is incapable of doing it on their own. This line occurs regardless of if it's being recorded/livestreamed(Undertale can't detect that, after all.), and Toby never really expected Undertale to be a big thing people would stream. He's talking about you, not the live chat. And you don't get to blame us for you playing genocide. As the game itself is trying to tell you: You didn't have to make a poll. You didn't have to respect the results of the poll. At any point, you could have decided to stop. And we couldn't have done anything about it. We never forced you do to this, only encouraged you. You made the choice all on your own, and you don't get to blame us to avoid the pain. *Trying to do so is missing the point of Undertale's "RPG where no one has to die" gimmick: Undertale is all about player choice, regardless of if that freedom is used for good or bad.* As the first human, Thumbs, or to use their true name, Chara, put it: You are the one who pushed everything to the brink of destruction. Thumbs/Chara merely put the world out of its misery, because by refusing to do so yourself, you proved their assumption that you had some greater purpose wrong: You showed them that you did this because you wanted to see what happened, and because you believed yourself to be above consequences, the exact way of thinking that turned Flowey from the person he once was to the creature he is now. Thumbs/Chara may be the soulless consciousness of a long-dead 12-year-old, conditioned to kill even those they once cared about because they viewed you as a source of guidance... but even they are disgusted by you. 43:11 Remember the tapes down in Alphys' lab? They got sick, but it was no accident. 1:06:38 Yeah, no, they aren't spoiled. On the contrary, they're heavily implied to be an abuse victim. They're just confused, because you've just stabbed them in the back and shown them that you weren't doing this for some greater purpose like they thought. They tried so hard to help you because they thought you had some greater goal, but you were just doing this to see what happened.
@@ediplayz9998 The last time someone accused me of writing an essay in a youtube comment, I wrote an entire, properly formatted essay debunking the Deltarune fan theory being discussed out of spite. Don't tempt fate, I would rather not spend the next several months of my life writing a whole book about Undertale's genocide route but spite is a powerful motivator.
If you wanna feel satisfied with fights against asgore and mettaton, there’s fanmade games that are super good such as, Mettaton Neo v2 and True Genocide Asgore where both actually fight you being pretty tough.
Yay! We both found Undertale together! It’s 2023 and I just finally looked into the hype that was Sans and such. Not disappointed, and now I’m here watching every Undertale play though. To see someone play this game so recent, it fills you with determination. 🌟
Before I start, I must say that it's been like 5 years since I watched an undertale playthrough without getting impatient, so this is going to be a refresher 1:13 OH I DIDN'T DO GENOCIDE AS WELL IT'S BEEN 8 YEARS, THAT FILE IS FOREVER GONNA BE A PACIFIST RUN 1:14:09 oh... He doesn't know,,, Ig it's for the best
I like how people think that there’s two endings and not a lot of lore but this vid and the pacifist one proves otherwise like for example soulless pacifist, true pacifist and true genocide and lore? The last vid can explain
Most people don’t talk about how in the genocide run you are the villain in most games you play as the hero but in undertale you either die a hero or live long enough to see you’re self become the villain
pro tip: for the yellow spears wont hit u even if u try to let them so if they facing the wrong way to going this way u would aim the shield whatever way they are facing not moving facing.
What i find the most disturbing about genocide runs is the fact that we are literally exactly like flowey in the sense that he had the ability to rewind time and then he started by helping as many people as possible doing the things they needed over and over again but once he did all that he had nothing to do so he wanted to see what happened if he killed someone and then everyone just because he knew he could and because he wanted to see what happened.
Bro did he even notice in the Waterfall area just after the undyne spear throwing thingy the encounter mark turned from an exclamation to a smiley face 💀
So like. I don't know if your stream told you this already, and you'll probably never see this, but while this isn't technically canon, there's this theory that Chara (canon name for the first human child, in your case, Thumbs or Thimbs), planned their death and made it look like suicide, with Asriel's help, in order to free all monsters. This is heavily implied by the lore, but since it's not outright confirmed hy the game, it's just a theory. The plan was to eat buttercups and die, and then Asriel could take their soul and cross the barrier, and he takes their dead body with him because they said they wanted to see the flowers from their village (You can *cross* the barrier with a human soul and a monster soul). There, he would kill six humans and take their souls to break the barrier. The idea of a Monster with a human soul is legend, but what no one knows is that Chara and Asriel both share split the power of the combined souls, and Chara encourages Asriel to kill them. But Asriel, being a kid who doesn't really want to hurt anybody, flakes out and doesn't fight the humans, who are attacking him because he's holding a body and they think he killed them. He goes back, and collapses in the garden. His dust scatters across the soil, but his body had the sticky seeds of Chara's favorite flower on him, golden flowers, so they're on his dust. They sprout, and when Alphys injects the first golden flower to pop up with determination, that becomes Flowey. Meanwhile, Chara's body is taken by Toriel when she leaves Asgore and buried at the start of the Ruins, and the seeds on her sprout a bed of golden flowers there as well. There, her spirit (not necessarily her soul, some sort of essence of her is still there though) lies dormant until you come. And as they say, your determination wakes them up. It is also a theory that they narrate your journey, be it pacifist or genocide. It's also also a theory that they aren't the villain, that *you* are, and that they become corrupted by your stats and your evil and eventually join in because they think that you must be doing this for some higher purpose. I personally believe these theories wholeheartedly.
I voted for everyone to stay alive and happy AND I’m a Phillies fan. 😠. We’re not all crazy and murderous! Philly is a great city they just opened up a conveyor belt sushi place! 😂
Those awful Zelda games were based on a *s h o r t l y* ran Zelda animated series Also, fun fact, the pan is actually better than the real knife due to it being able to do 4 critical hits in a row (or a quad) compared to the knife’s one critical
Sans tips: You can practice with the game Bad time simulator the fight wont progress unless you attack On his final attack, don't move so he can fall asleep. A lot of his attacks use circle patterns
Therm: "I wonder if [monster dust] would make a good pasta seasoning" ...Wouldn't that be like looking at like, idk, your *grandmother's urn* and being like "I'm sure those ashes would taste LIT af on mac & cheese!!'
I’m doing it again all of my favorite moments combined into one comment! >:D 1:35 “ *sigh* so I’m a little sick...” 1:50 “This is the anti Thimbs this is the dark Thimbs... THUMBS.” 3:16 (everyone run it’s the voice ;m;) 3:40 “I know I know I know!” (Thomas is already breaking down and we’re only three minutes in) 3:55 “She’s gonna think I’m a baby genius super child.” 5:16 “Take a piece of candy? You got a piece of candy! I got a piece of candy! 8:21 “Mike Wazowskey!?” (Yes I know I spelled that wrong I’m dyslexic) 11:28 “.......OK I kind of get what my friend was talking about now...” (Therm it’s gonna be OK) 12:35 “ Time to start chipping awa- (One shots Toriel) OH MY GOD! SORRY!” 15:12 “Umm all right... i’m gonna choose to interpret that as how many items I still have to get at Kroger” (just don’t cry and you’ll be fine) 17:26 “ let’s play mini golf! Weeee~ “ (just golf the pain away) 20:02 “ *therm complaining about Jerry in rapid succession* “ 21:41 “I hate that...” (and I hate this as well as myself for giving me this job of listing all of the funniest/ saddest moments from therm’s undertale videos) 24:32 “ *therm getting Vietnam war flashbacks of the pacifist route* “ 26:30 “I’m just trying to get through my day. I’m just trying to get through my day. I’m just trying to get through my day.” (Aren’t we all Mr. boy man?) 29:33 “I HAVE TO DANCE!” (Dance to live) 29:44 “heart arrhythmia...” 30:58 “ *therm screaming like a little girl* “ 33:52 “WOW! WOOOW! WOOW! 35:28 “why are you cheeseing this is not the time to cheese!” (Therm 2023) 36:09 “FORTY LEFT!?” 38:58 “ I probably will” (as of writing this the Deltarune video just came out like 20 minutes ago) 39:55 “N-E-O Neo!” (The neo in Mettaton neo stands for NEO PRONOUNS 42:25 “ cause you’re a flower goofball... “ (Therm trying to roast Flowey but is just building up his ego) 44:42 “What. Do y’all have to say?” (Therm I swear I wasn’t contributing to this!) 47:28 “ what happened back then!” (Everyone screaming lore) 56:19 “listen-a lallallallal LAL!” 58:21 “OHHHHH It’s like six flags! Woooo!” 1:04:30 “Who the hell are you supposed to be?” (Chara the child who fell down into the mountain long before Frisk) 1:07:23 (suddenly baseball tier list jump scare) 1:11:35 “I hate you I hate you...” (casually goes back to playing the horror game for children) 1:14:07 (hooray everyone’s alive and of course we cried)
It’s nice to see someone experience the genocide route for the first time. It was always my favorite since the killing felt so deliberate, like each kill not only made the next kills easier, but also added to the satisfaction of clearing an area. Also it feels real good taking on Sans, no matter how many times I’ve done it. Also was it cut out or did he just never notice Sans’s changing dialogue after each attempt?
here's a fun detail i enjoy. Asriel (as flowey and as himself) consistently greets the player with "howdy!", a habit that you can later infer he picked up from asgore. meanwhile, the first fallen human (default name Chara) says "Greetings", which is _toriel's_ habit
and according to the alarm clock dialogue, asriel also copied chara's water-glass-filling habits. seems like the dreemurr kids just had a thing for copying people. not even asriel/flowey's laugh is original. toriel laughs with a "hee hee hee" literally right before flowey shows back up in pacifist.
@@penntopaper9305that's because they're still kids! even in death 😭
@@benadrylbenny exactly omg 😭😭
@@benadrylbennyreminds me of fnaf since charas dead kid soul basically got stuffed into a monster 🤔 Was Charas death the death of 87?
WAIT THATS ACTUALLY ADORABLE :OOO
As someone who loved Undertale from day one, it makes my day to see all these years later people experiencing it for the first time. It's so rare now. That silence at the first "but nobody came." was EVERYTHING
I just loved how Therm immediately knew what his friend meant when they said that he'd know lmao
11:19
I started playing undertale before 2 weeks,i loved that game in 2018,but I didn't got the chance to play it
@@alexandremontesinos7876 since when now? was undertale really a thing in 2013? didnt it come out in 2015?
@@sugardust probably kickstarter stuff. Or just a troll
Undyne melted when you killed her because in that fight she somehow generated determination, her body eventually couldn’t take the strain anymore and melted before turning into dust, the melting also happened to the amalgamates due to the determination in their system and monsters fused together and formed them
its kind of implied that alphys injected her with determination beforehand, as they both knew this fight was going to happen
@@asterstruck no it isn't implied, just that undyne was determined to stop you, but had too much at the end
@@mariotheundying well that's the most likely case, monsters only melt from external determination not from their own
@@jellydad6113 nothing specifies that, the game just says that the monsters can't have too much determination in them cuz otherwise they melt, but never mentions if just external DT
@@mariotheundying really? i swear I heard dialogue like that in-game
One really subtle thing about the Genocide route I noticed is that the “!” before encounters is eventually replaced by a smile.
I never noticed this!!!! That’s so cool
the fact he was close to the end of the sans fight ON HIS SECOND TRY is really impressive
noob luck, people get more tired and worse when they start dying alot
@@_------------_nah I’ve seen people struggle for a while on the first attack
@@_------------_hes genuinely very good at bullet hells. you should watch his cuphead video. and, you *dont* get that far in sans’ fight on “luck”
I wouldn’t be surprised if I died over 200 times to this guy lol (stayed determined tho!!!!!!!!!)
Yes, I know I have a skill issue. I pride myself on sucking at any game I play.
38:24 at this moment i would just quit the game forever
The Toriel reaction was probably the best part here
“Let’s start chipping away-oh MY GOD.”
12:34
I was laughing so hard at this moment lmao
"mom, I'm sorry-"
- Therm in bad feeling
Toriel: Y...You really hate me that much...?
“You’ll have to erase my memories too”
Therm: I’ll gladly kill off Flowey
Little did he know ….,.
Honestly if therm didnt erase his memories he could become a better person in general
I made my gf play through the pacifist run and then bought the game for myself for the sole purpose of never tainting that happy safe file. Forever untouched and free.
i know this comment is from a year ago but i just binged therm's ut playthroughs and this comment is just the sweetest thing oh lord
i dont know why but therm saying 'A LIFE' in response to sans saying 'papyrus, do you want anything?' made me both start cackling and tear up
Idk but same
You two are weird!!!
my jaw dropped fr as my eyes were tearing up 💀
This has 666 likes, the thumb number
Therm is gonna hate it when he redoes pacifist and gets to the end of it.
But wouldn't it be fun to see his reaction?
After all...
he's not in control...
With enough pressure, he will succumb...
And be forced to make friends all over again...
Only then will he understand...
Consequences cannot be avoided...
After all... The higher they are...
T H E H A R D E R T H E Y F A L L
@@vernbaa which makes it all the more unexpected :)
@@vernbaa I know, I just wanted to play into the bit
@@vernbaa one frame that will take his happy ending
@@vernbaa he wants to have a good ending, but now he will never get a happy ending or a good ending, he can't have what he wants now
"After this is all over, I'm going through on my own time and doing everything my own way so everybody gets their happy ending"
Oh... yeah. They deserve that happiness.
oh yeah......................................
@@nileprimewastaken nabstablook
Nobody tell therm
Yeah……
Yeah, about that...
32:35 This is the point that Sans talked about. The more you distance yourself, the easier it becomes to hurt others. 'Taking her out.' 'Getting into a rhythm.' 'I did it, this is a big moment'. This is the point where I can hear Therm speak like he is playing a game and this is a challenge that needs to be conquered. Forgetting that you are the villian and the true hero does not stand a chance.
The same thing happens when people fight Sans, they get frustrated and only... once the final blow hits do they realize what they've done.
i love how the literal point of the genocide run is to make you accept that you are the one who did this, but therm just keeps blaming other people
People be like "Chara made me kill everyone"
My sibling in Christ, you are the one who is actively playing
Watching Therm go down that same thought process the early undertale fandom went through was so entertaining
It's a cannon event
@@KyrieFortuneMy brother in Christ, you're the one that made Chara think it was cool to kill people
@@frauleinzuckerguss1906ive never played undertale and am not nearly as knowledgeable on it as i am Deltarune, so I've got no clue what's going on, but like. Wasn't Chara murderous before they died? Didn't they poison Asgore or something?
@@existenceispain_geekthesirenChara poisoned themselves so that they would die, so Asriel could take their soul.
I do feel like clarifying it's implied Chara still isn't an amazing person, though. Even before the whole "becoming evil" thing.
sorry idk why i'm just DYING at the completely unexpected baseball tier-list at the end of the video. what a great way to diffuse the tension after a really emotionally rough run.
I absolutely love the True Reset, Toby’s final tug on your heartstrings by making the villain of the game beg you to not erase the happy ending you worked so hard to get everyone
Yet his speech is said with a feeling of inevitability, he knows that it’s likely that you’ll go back and ruin everything, that anyone who loves the world enough won’t listen
Then you get to the menu, and see the True Reset itself, and it’s amazing
The usually lively file select screen that’s normally populated with the characters doing fun things, is now completely empty, barren of all the monsters because they’re all gone, they have no reason to stay in this abandoned mountain, but you’re here, even though you shouldn’t be, like them, you should leave this Undertale and head back to the surface, you aren’t meant to be here, and that atmosphere is emphasised by the droning music in the background, it’s slow, horrid, the type of stuff you’d only hear on the genocide route, and it’s fitting because being here, hovering over that true reset button is a form of starting that genocide, first you kill their happy ending and then you kill them
(You can actually hear this droning music in the video if you listen closely on the menu screen 1:33)
But yeah, amazing work by Toby to make you feel like crap before you’ve even began the geno route
I actually hesitated for like a month before doing true reset the first time.
@@3RR0RNULLi never did it.
having flowey be the one to give you that talk as well also hits so hard, and not just cause he was the villain. he was the villain that YOU worked so hard to redeem in the pacifist route. you literally talked to him and comforted him and worked together with him to break the barrier and give everyone that happy ending. By resetting, you're essentially throwing that all out in front of him, and although he cant feel any compassion anymore, he can certainly feel despair. and betrayal.
at the end my heart was hurting so bad and then therm just starts GIGGLING at chara's "Greetings."
This route literally just destroys your humanity. At the beginning, he was guilty for killing one froggit but by the end you could tell he didn't give a crap anymore
At least he still regrets it
If you spare Sans, he doesn't actually spare you.
The soul they're referring to at the very end of that route isn't the heart that appears in combats... It's the *player's* soul. In this case, your soul... You being Therm.
Sometimes people will react to things they shouldn't know from previous playthroughs, like Toriel guessing your previous answer to the Cinnamon vs Butterscotch question. When you play through this time, you'll likely get a little bit of new dialog or whatever here and there... But probably not enough for a whole new video.
the therm is chara
@@GeniusGamerZ-x6ahara is thumb in this video not therm
I bet therm had a heart attack when he beat the game in pacifist again after he sold his soul
Fun fact: The I Frames in Undertale are called Mercy Frames. Depending on the fight your Mercy Frames differ. It's the amount of time before you can take damage after being damaged by an attack, and things can influence it. For example the more of an enemy type you spare, the more Mercy Frames you get. The monster is showing you Mercy.
Sans gives you no Mercy Frames. He does 1 damage, every frame. Quite literally no Mercy.
Also, in Undertale you do damage based on your intent to hurt. That's why boss monsters are almost always instant killed. And why Sans takes 999999 damage. Your character is pissed.
No they arent, and no it isnt. What, with the notebook suddenly people dont wanna hit you as much? As for the damage, if it was, how come we dont instantly kill literally everything. Sans takes 999999 damage because his defense is 1.
@@Omarlol3rd not that deep
@@Omarlol3rd Omega flowey has his defense drop to literal zero and takes nowhere near that much dmg. Also you straight up gave no reason or explanation for all of the other bosses that died in one hit lmao.
@@wasperfly im unsure if what the commenter said was right or wrong an im too lazy to do it but im pretty sure the reason why other bosses die in 1 hit is because of your murder lv
Therm: “i do not like this”
Also therm: “i wonder what monster dust taste like”
Therm: This is so sad, I'm gonna need therapy after this.
Also therm: *FIRST BLOOD!!!!!*
FUNFACT: When it's the talking rock, you only need that one to get thru, you didn't actually have to push the other two.
Wow never knew that
41:57
This is extremely funny because Undertale speedrunners use the Burnt Pan, and if you hit all 4 crits (frame perfect inputs, by the way), you will do more damage than a crit with the Real Knife.
So your decision to use the Burnt Pan instead of the Real Knife was technically correct lmao
I played the genocide route twice, and failed twice, I could NEVER do it, the first time was at papyrus, and the second time was at sans, I think the sans getting dunked on was a fitting ending, I always imagined it as Frisk gaining control back, and ending it before it could never be fixed.
As someone who did a pacifist run and never wanted to do genocide but was always curious, wow. Flowey’s really calling me out there…
This route is so sad. I once watched an analysis video on it and it's crazy how Sans dialouge during the 'Judgement' scene reflects what happens when the player goes into genocide.
can we also talk about how flowey literally just casually drops the fact that he, a literal child, became suicidal because he couldn't love and tried to kill himself which is how he found out he could save????? thats SO FUCKING SAD.
I'm gonna be completely honest I cried when I did my first genocide run. I just get way to attached to the characters. It hurts so much then you have to kill them.
You never *had* to
@@pemanilnoob Well yeah but I'm a completionist so I did.
its troubling that you say the word first
@@LimitlessLiger4404 guy wanted to get all of Chara's dialogue or smth
Do the genocide run before
For the record I voted for them to stay happy…
I love how everyone on their pacifist run prefers butterscotch, but on genocide, they say they prefer cinnamon.
THANK YOU [[Thermal Energy]] FOR MAKING A [[BIG SHOT]] MOVE, [[You are now eligible for a new]] MY [[Commemorative Ring]], ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS [[GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!]]
baldi refernece
@@mothgirl0512 refernece
@@mothgirl0512mm yes thanks translate by Google.
HELLO MY FELLOW [[BIG SHOT]]
i clicked on this to give it the view but i am physically unable to watch genocide runs of undertale bc i love the characters too much
Thimbs: yes, everyone is good, nobody will suffer and FIGHT won't exi-
Thumbs: GET OUTTA HEREE
dying sans: "papyrus do you want anything?"
therm: "a life"
the perfect combination of witty & savage is unmatched 😂
1:04:27 "I did whole lot more than kill, that was extra credit."
I suppose Therm knew, going into this...
He was gonna have a bad time.
Bro it’s sans !
@@jaseshamer7164 I h8 u both
No way sand undertale
Oh my god, is it really sandpaper underneath?!
omg it’s saws from lumbertale!!
This hurt Therm
Edit:in a yoda voice now : Therm was hurt by this he was
Alternatively: This hurt, Therm
poor therm :(
Poor therm
@@jacka4484 Alternatively: This, hurt Therm
@@Wolfee9000 Alternatively: Therm, this hurt
1:03:18 Can this please be the one dude I don't kill?
Flowey: *Y E S*
Papyrus’ expressions and attitude make me so sad… I freaking almost cried when he died! I could never do this in a play through…
As something of a breakfast expert myself, I think that pancakes are a clear winner with French toast close to waffles at 2nd
"after this is over - in my own time - I'm going through and I'm beating this game again so everyone has their happy ending"
Who's gonna tell him?
tell him what?
@@backwoodsnboobiesspecial ending after you do pacifist after geno
Does he know?
2nd thing:
This makes me glad that some people will still play the genocide route so I don’t have to do it myself.
Undyne is the best character. She had the determination to keep fighting forever. But the monster soul cannot handle it. She was prepared to fight forever but when she lost using everything she had, her body couldn’t handle anymore. She didn’t ever die to death. She died to her own will to live.
Flowey called me out for wanting to watch but not want to do it myself.
Undertales genocide route really helps capture the stages of grief, especially denial as is shown perfectly in this video
In the first 5 minutes I immediately thought "Well, this guy's gonna cry for sure."
Such a masterpiece, was great watching you play through it on stream
I love Therm dying to Sans as soon as he calls himself a 3 of Diamonds
i cant believe you moved the mets back to b tier, easily the saddest thing about this video
most peaceful therm video:
LMAOOOO
U mean in ohio
@@jamardurrant4487 *no.*
@@jamardurrant4487 let the meme die
i like that at the end he just started ranking things because he wanted to see if the game would do anything.
Bro holy, the fact that you know so much of the lore AND the accuracy of it too? That's genuinely insane, especially as a first playthrough. Very impressive
I’ve become a fan incredibly recently and you are one of the funniest content creators I’ve seen! I love watching your vids and find you hilarious :]
32:30 goes with the music so nicely
the thing in the description sounded PAINFUL mate, also was really funny to watch but that wasn't a splash that was a SLAM
I like to call this route a clensation of the underground.
First time i died over 74 times against undyne the undying and RESET when i had to fight sans
This time i only died under 40 times maybe between 24 deaths and i am still fighting against sans
I love how Therm just casually makes a tierlist of baseball after he finishes the game 😂
44:40
Oh, no. Flowey is talking about *YOU.* He's talking to Frisk/the first human, but the player(As in, you) is a separate entity altogether, and that's who he's referring to. A being who wants to see what happens, but is incapable of doing it on their own. This line occurs regardless of if it's being recorded/livestreamed(Undertale can't detect that, after all.), and Toby never really expected Undertale to be a big thing people would stream. He's talking about you, not the live chat.
And you don't get to blame us for you playing genocide. As the game itself is trying to tell you: You didn't have to make a poll. You didn't have to respect the results of the poll. At any point, you could have decided to stop. And we couldn't have done anything about it. We never forced you do to this, only encouraged you. You made the choice all on your own, and you don't get to blame us to avoid the pain. *Trying to do so is missing the point of Undertale's "RPG where no one has to die" gimmick: Undertale is all about player choice, regardless of if that freedom is used for good or bad.*
As the first human, Thumbs, or to use their true name, Chara, put it: You are the one who pushed everything to the brink of destruction. Thumbs/Chara merely put the world out of its misery, because by refusing to do so yourself, you proved their assumption that you had some greater purpose wrong: You showed them that you did this because you wanted to see what happened, and because you believed yourself to be above consequences, the exact way of thinking that turned Flowey from the person he once was to the creature he is now. Thumbs/Chara may be the soulless consciousness of a long-dead 12-year-old, conditioned to kill even those they once cared about because they viewed you as a source of guidance... but even they are disgusted by you.
43:11
Remember the tapes down in Alphys' lab? They got sick, but it was no accident.
1:06:38
Yeah, no, they aren't spoiled. On the contrary, they're heavily implied to be an abuse victim. They're just confused, because you've just stabbed them in the back and shown them that you weren't doing this for some greater purpose like they thought. They tried so hard to help you because they thought you had some greater goal, but you were just doing this to see what happened.
Very more detailed than the comment I left, good Chara analysis
Pretty much spot on, well written comment
you didnt say a comment,you said a book
@@ediplayz9998 The last time someone accused me of writing an essay in a youtube comment, I wrote an entire, properly formatted essay debunking the Deltarune fan theory being discussed out of spite. Don't tempt fate, I would rather not spend the next several months of my life writing a whole book about Undertale's genocide route but spite is a powerful motivator.
@@Missingno_Miner Well, you cant assume what they said was an accusation since it can go both ways.
no, YOU destroyed this. YOU chose to press fight. Y O U . did this
I appreciate seeing Undertale play throughs. It’s truly a magical game, and is definitely in my top 10 of not at number 1.
“ we gotta avoid the bone zone “
-being left alone with someone I like a lot 👉🏾👈🏾
"Greetings."
"I've seen you killed my family, partner."
If you wanna feel satisfied with fights against asgore and mettaton, there’s fanmade games that are super good such as, Mettaton Neo v2 and True Genocide Asgore where both actually fight you being pretty tough.
Rauru: "Our last line of defense will be Link."
Link: *OH BOY SMOOCHING TIME!*
I bet froggit’s dust would taste like mustard 13:13
45:37
It'd take 15 hours for train 2 to catch up to train 1.
10:59 I agree with you about the waffles pancakes and French toast thing 100%. I’m not at all a fan of French toast, but pancakes slap every time.
Yay! We both found Undertale together! It’s 2023 and I just finally looked into the hype that was Sans and such. Not disappointed, and now I’m here watching every Undertale play though.
To see someone play this game so recent, it fills you with determination. 🌟
finally had time to watch this! such a great video to have on in the background. i love these longer style videos. your commentary is always fantastic
Before I start, I must say that it's been like 5 years since I watched an undertale playthrough without getting impatient, so this is going to be a refresher
1:13 OH I DIDN'T DO GENOCIDE AS WELL IT'S BEEN 8 YEARS, THAT FILE IS FOREVER GONNA BE A PACIFIST RUN
1:14:09 oh... He doesn't know,,,
Ig it's for the best
At the begging what Toriel said “we don’t want to hurt anyone now do we?” (4:20)
I like how people think that there’s two endings and not a lot of lore but this vid and the pacifist one proves otherwise like for example soulless pacifist, true pacifist and true genocide and lore? The last vid can explain
Bro tried to sneak in an undertale playthrough in a baseball ranking video
I like how the ending we choose depicts what the first human's personality is like
Therm doing a baseball team tier list while waiting for the game to continue is my favorite thing
Also heck yea O’s and Nat’s in s tier frfr
Most people don’t talk about how in the genocide run you are the villain in most games you play as the hero but in undertale you either die a hero or live long enough to see you’re self become the villain
Did you know that if you only spare Jerry, sans still attacks you?
pro tip: for the yellow spears wont hit u even if u try to let them so if they facing the wrong way to going this way u would aim the shield whatever way they are facing not moving facing.
Sweet! This was a nice surprise. Was hoping you’d come back to this at some point.
I love how he did EVERYTHING to exempt himself, I would too.
"I just need chexmix and good vibes" This is why Therm is awesome and relatable
What i find the most disturbing about genocide runs is the fact that we are literally exactly like flowey in the sense that he had the ability to rewind time and then he started by helping as many people as possible doing the things they needed over and over again but once he did all that he had nothing to do so he wanted to see what happened if he killed someone and then everyone just because he knew he could and because he wanted to see what happened.
Bro did he even notice in the Waterfall area just after the undyne spear throwing thingy the encounter mark turned from an exclamation to a smiley face 💀
12:33 Toriel
14:15 Meeting Sans
15:00 16 left
16:13 Snowman
19:45 Bad time
21:40 Snowdin
22:20 Papyrus
28:10 Monster Kid and Undyne
40:00 Mettaton Neo
41:00 Floweys Monologue
47:00 Flowey shitting his pants
49:00 Sans
1:11:54 Every kid that did Genocide and blames it on Chara.
As a guy who lives next to the Mariners' home city, I adore the two-minute tangent about the insufferability of Mariners fans
I can’t believe sans just tries to filibuster you
“after this whole thing is over on my own time im going back through it im beating the game again so everyone has their happy ending”
DID THEY KNOW⁉️
"We don't want to hurt anybody ...do we.....?" *takes deep breath* of course not
Absolutely wrecked emotionally every time I see the run, but this vid was great! Also great to see the Buccos in A tier! Let's go Bucs!
That moment when he goes back to play through pacifist and realizes his mistake at the end.
So like. I don't know if your stream told you this already, and you'll probably never see this, but while this isn't technically canon, there's this theory that Chara (canon name for the first human child, in your case, Thumbs or Thimbs), planned their death and made it look like suicide, with Asriel's help, in order to free all monsters. This is heavily implied by the lore, but since it's not outright confirmed hy the game, it's just a theory. The plan was to eat buttercups and die, and then Asriel could take their soul and cross the barrier, and he takes their dead body with him because they said they wanted to see the flowers from their village (You can *cross* the barrier with a human soul and a monster soul). There, he would kill six humans and take their souls to break the barrier. The idea of a Monster with a human soul is legend, but what no one knows is that Chara and Asriel both share split the power of the combined souls, and Chara encourages Asriel to kill them. But Asriel, being a kid who doesn't really want to hurt anybody, flakes out and doesn't fight the humans, who are attacking him because he's holding a body and they think he killed them. He goes back, and collapses in the garden. His dust scatters across the soil, but his body had the sticky seeds of Chara's favorite flower on him, golden flowers, so they're on his dust. They sprout, and when Alphys injects the first golden flower to pop up with determination, that becomes Flowey. Meanwhile, Chara's body is taken by Toriel when she leaves Asgore and buried at the start of the Ruins, and the seeds on her sprout a bed of golden flowers there as well. There, her spirit (not necessarily her soul, some sort of essence of her is still there though) lies dormant until you come. And as they say, your determination wakes them up. It is also a theory that they narrate your journey, be it pacifist or genocide. It's also also a theory that they aren't the villain, that *you* are, and that they become corrupted by your stats and your evil and eventually join in because they think that you must be doing this for some higher purpose. I personally believe these theories wholeheartedly.
I voted for everyone to stay alive and happy AND I’m a Phillies fan. 😠. We’re not all crazy and murderous! Philly is a great city they just opened up a conveyor belt sushi place! 😂
Those awful Zelda games were based on a *s h o r t l y* ran Zelda animated series
Also, fun fact, the pan is actually better than the real knife due to it being able to do 4 critical hits in a row (or a quad) compared to the knife’s one critical
Sans tips:
You can practice with the game Bad time simulator
the fight wont progress unless you attack
On his final attack, don't move so he can fall asleep.
A lot of his attacks use circle patterns
Did he look like he needed tips? He beat Sans in like 5 attempts!
Glad you made this into a video, almost had to watch the entire stream ha
Therm: "I wonder if [monster dust] would make a good pasta seasoning"
...Wouldn't that be like looking at like, idk, your *grandmother's urn* and being like "I'm sure those ashes would taste LIT af on mac & cheese!!'
I’m doing it again all of my favorite moments combined into one comment! >:D
1:35 “ *sigh* so I’m a little sick...”
1:50 “This is the anti Thimbs this is the dark Thimbs... THUMBS.”
3:16 (everyone run it’s the voice ;m;)
3:40 “I know I know I know!” (Thomas is already breaking down and we’re only three minutes in)
3:55 “She’s gonna think I’m a baby genius super child.”
5:16 “Take a piece of candy? You got a piece of candy! I got a piece of candy!
8:21 “Mike Wazowskey!?” (Yes I know I spelled that wrong I’m dyslexic)
11:28 “.......OK I kind of get what my friend was talking about now...” (Therm it’s gonna be OK)
12:35 “ Time to start chipping awa- (One shots Toriel) OH MY GOD! SORRY!”
15:12 “Umm all right... i’m gonna choose to interpret that as how many items I still have to get at Kroger” (just don’t cry and you’ll be fine)
17:26 “ let’s play mini golf! Weeee~ “ (just golf the pain away)
20:02 “ *therm complaining about Jerry in rapid succession* “
21:41 “I hate that...” (and I hate this as well as myself for giving me this job of listing all of the funniest/ saddest moments from therm’s undertale videos)
24:32 “ *therm getting Vietnam war flashbacks of the pacifist route* “
26:30 “I’m just trying to get through my day. I’m just trying to get through my day. I’m just trying to get through my day.” (Aren’t we all Mr. boy man?)
29:33 “I HAVE TO DANCE!” (Dance to live)
29:44 “heart arrhythmia...”
30:58 “ *therm screaming like a little girl* “
33:52 “WOW! WOOOW! WOOW!
35:28 “why are you cheeseing this is not the time to cheese!” (Therm 2023)
36:09 “FORTY LEFT!?”
38:58 “ I probably will” (as of writing this the Deltarune video just came out like 20 minutes ago)
39:55 “N-E-O Neo!” (The neo in Mettaton neo stands for NEO PRONOUNS
42:25 “ cause you’re a flower goofball... “ (Therm trying to roast Flowey but is just building up his ego)
44:42 “What. Do y’all have to say?” (Therm I swear I wasn’t contributing to this!)
47:28 “ what happened back then!” (Everyone screaming lore)
56:19 “listen-a lallallallal LAL!”
58:21 “OHHHHH It’s like six flags! Woooo!”
1:04:30 “Who the hell are you supposed to be?” (Chara the child who fell down into the mountain long before Frisk)
1:07:23 (suddenly baseball tier list jump scare)
1:11:35 “I hate you I hate you...” (casually goes back to playing the horror game for children)
1:14:07 (hooray everyone’s alive and of course we cried)
It’s nice to see someone experience the genocide route for the first time. It was always my favorite since the killing felt so deliberate, like each kill not only made the next kills easier, but also added to the satisfaction of clearing an area. Also it feels real good taking on Sans, no matter how many times I’ve done it.
Also was it cut out or did he just never notice Sans’s changing dialogue after each attempt?
Missing the tapes in the true lab made theorizing harder ig