Did you do it? We’ve captured a command post. What did it cost? We’ve lost a command post. Me: The heck. If you would trade command posts why did you even bother trying to waste soldiers.
I'm actually writing a book where one of the major powers uses clone soldiers. As you said their role is primarily garrison/rapid response forces but due to the amount of time they spend training for urban and CQC engagements in general law enforcement almost always make use of their skills and capabilities in SWAT roles. Law enforcement entities love this arrangement as they don't have to spend time and resources developing and maintaining their own SWAT units and the military loves it as it gives their troops some real world experience and no small measure of prestige
And that's why Palpatine has my vote. They can blow up any planet except Cato Neimoidia because my buddy lives there, and that guy owes me 80 credits. Real asshole
You should make a video on how the old republic army tactics fighting alongside jedi were different from the clone wars republic army fighting alongside Jedi it would be interesting to see the contrasting tactics with a real free will army over an army whose opinion Were more constricted
Old Republic armies were better organized. Since these yahoos chose the military life, they have little, if any problems with deserters, aside from a few notable exceptions. *COUGH* Harron Tavus *COUGH* However, clones have superior combat skills due to being raised to fight from birth, so there's that.
I don't know shit about Star Wars but I'm pretty sure the main thing that made the old army fight better was that they actually hit something at times.
@@FifinatorKlon Clones and live troopers could hit things. Also, Stormtroopers were accurate too, unless their commanders told them to spare the enemy and only put on a show.
@@HolyknightVader999 yeah...the people hung up on the "stormtroopers can't hit shit" meme seem to forget ol' Ben's comments on the precise shots disabling the sandcrawler in ep. 4, and even Han's comment that the gang's escape was "too easy"
Clones- bred for combat and warfare and template chosen was the most feared and deadly bounty hunter in the galaxy of his age. Stormtroopers- local civilians who are unequipped and have questionable training. I think it’s clear to say which is better
Clones were way more expensive though, but who knows maybe if Palpatine didn't dump every ounce of the empire's income into TWO failed death stars, maybe he could've afforded a better army.
Never stop teaching us about history Allen. It's my second favorite thing about the channel. You're my first favorite thing. Oh, American Ben is cool too, I guess.
Grievous is only a terrible general in TCW and Canon material. Pre-TCW he was actually a significant threat both in personal combat and as strategist and tactician.
@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 that still shouldn't habe happend. Grievous is literally designed and build to slaighter jedi. And he kills (in canon) 1 middling jedi via cheap shotting. Im the EU he tears through half a dozen knights and 2 council masters without difficulty and isn't treated like a joke by Kenobi every tuesday since the beginning of the war. EU Grievous is unargueably the more intimidating incarnation of the character, and as great TCW is, its portrayel of Grievous is one of its very view big short comings.
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 you can be the most badass warrior on the planet and if you don't treat your opponents with respect you are lost. Obi Wan has a very useful style.
"Why the Clone Army was the perfect occupying force." Because children don't complain when you enslave and force them to fight for a cause they were bred for. Well, they couldn't complain, because if they did the Kaminoans would terminate and grind them into protein paste and fed to their brothers.
@@kodyspicer41 gtg bye bye I love you Allen and I don't want to be a part of the team duh duh duh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Mentioning the SS members in Vietnam brings me to think of another soldier. Lauri Törni was in the Finnish army in 1939 when the Soviets invaded. He fairly successfully defended Finland in the Winter War. Later during the Continuation War, when Finland joined the Nazis to fight the Soviets to reclaim their land, Lauri joined the SS to keep fighting when the war turned against the Axis. He later escaped to America, took the name Larry Thorne, and became the only member of the SS burried in Arlington after his helicopter was shot down in Vietnam.
Video suggestions: 1. Was there ever a stormtrooper who wouldn’t fire laser ever. Like he just chose to always use stun as some sort of pacifist? 2. Why was Anakin not a target by the clones during order 66? How did he get opted out of the hitlist but not Maul or Ashoka? Was it in direct control of Palpatine?
The Grand Army of the Republic only numbered 3 million Kamino bred Fett Clones, they would have made a terrible occuptation force as at best you would have a squad per planet. What the Clones excelled at is being Stormtroopers, and when I say stormtroopers I'm not referring to Imperial Stormtrooper, but the Sturmtruppen of the First and Second World wars. Elite forces that are more aggressive, better trained, and more armed than your standard infantryman, whose mission to be the tip of the spear during an assault. The Kamino bred Fett clones fit that to a t. They are elite troops that are armed and armored with best weapons and armor in the galaxy. Only their own special operations forces such as the Republic Commandos and Arc Troopers were better trained, armed, and armored.
well yeah there’s not a lot of them, so you deploy them in force to rebellious planets, as they have no attachments to the people there, they would make a very fine yet brutal occupying force
It's still my personal theory that the majority of the Clone Wars was fought by planetary defense forces, especially since the clones were relatively minuscule in numbers to fight a galactic war.
The difference between Clone Troopers and Stormtroopers is like the difference between the US Army and US Marine Corps when the two operate in the same theatre. The Marines traditionally don’t occupy territory. They move into the objective area, kill everything that resists, and move on to the next target (what the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps was designed to do). The Army typically follows in, mops up any remaining resistance and occupies. That’s why the US Army has a Corps of Engineers and various other logistics and support groups within its ranks, where as the USMC really doesn’t.
THEY SHALL BE MY FINEST WARRIORS, BORN FOR WAR, BREAD FOR COMBAT. WITH THE FINEST ARMOUR THEY SHALL BE CLAD AND THE BEST WEAPONS THEY SHALL BE ARMED. THEY ARE THE DEFENDERS OF THE EMPIRE. THEY ARE MY CLONE TROOPERS AND THEY SHALL KNOW NO FEAR!
Another good vide. Can you do something with the sith empire from swotor next maybe! Like how the sith army and navy operator, their strengths and wea,messes, etc. Perhaps what if the swtor sith returned to the galaxy around time of the galatic empire ruled it and how would swtor would go about takin get it over? Friend got me back into swtor and been imagining the sith empire remearging from the unknown regiosmafter This and some of year in self exile lol
I have an idea for a video, what would happen if the Separatists didn't attack the Republic when they defected? Would the Republic have attacked them instead or would they have let them separate peacefully? the Republic didn't have much of an army until obi wan found Kamino so what would have happened?
at 4:07 you say that the Gurkha's, Sikhs, and Africans were all perceived as inferior. while that may be true of british perceptions towards African troops their attitude to the Gurkha's and Sikhs were very different- the British fought numerous wars against both and they were already recognized as formidable fighters.
I have a challenge for you and the guys to consider Allen. British Ben puts his 5 Star Trek Ships against your 5 Star Wars ships. American Ben can judge the competition. Whoever wins 3 of the matchups is declared Supreme Techie. 5 ships would be a fighter (we can count USS Defiant as a fighter), corvette, frigate, dreadnaught and super dreadnaught (guess he’s using a Borg Cube 😂). You guys can give your data and arguments why yours would win and American Ben would then declare a winner. Just an idea, love watching every video, from both Tech and Films.
@@GenerationTech The reason why the Germans had a fear of the Canadians by the Second World War, among other Allied forces, was because of their reputation (well-earned) from the First World War. Although not having an immediate introduction to the Western Front like the French and British, the Canadian Corps became one of the most effective, creative and inventive fighting forces on the Western Front during the First World War. Well-trained and overseen by British observers, and Canadian officers alike, the Canadians were never really considered shambolic from what I recall of the history of this. Canada was basically always loyal. The only thing that may have irked some stuffier characters in the elitist British High Command, may have been the reluctance of the Canadian leadership to commit troops to the Western Front (stalling as long as possible, from the Canadian PM down) This was not to say that the Canadians were considered slovenly. Never heard of that. Perhaps earlier on a degree of scepticism on their seriousness may have existed in some corners of the imperial bureaucracy but I really don't think that amounted to much. When the Canadians were fully deployed as a very decent contibution of about 90,000 to 100,000 men in around 3 corps sized units, they had a positive impact on the Western Front. Benefiting from being held back (in greater force; some Canadians did fight much earlier, as far back as 1915 ish) for so long until 1917 onward for the majority, in terms of being able to learn from the lessons of primarily the British and French, as well as simply have more time to train and receive increasingly better equipment e.g. replacing out their rifles more than once, the Canadians were also a much fresher and generally better led fighting force for their numbers. They were, like the Australian Corps, considered some of the British Empire's finest troops by the end of the war. This is no exaggeration whatsoever - tactically and strategically, the Canadian Corps were feared. The British Army had several highly respected regiments and more elite units, in it's own right; though years of brutal trench warfare across not only the Western Front but others, had bled the British badly, and while millions of British troops still fought on and although I believe the Entente victory was almost assured even without the USA, there was a need for fresh, well-trained troops to replace losses, especially after Russia dropped out of the war allowing Germany to transport over a million Eastern Front veterans to the Western Front pretty much straight away, with many more to follow. Britain and France held the line, but the arrival of Canadian and US forces to the region, was welcomed (at least, by high command - whereas British soldiers were pretty scathing of US troops who they openly mocked as ''dough boys'' aka soft and weak, in need of kneading and remoulding into proper soldiers; think old Clone troopers calling rookies shinies, that sort of thing) The Canadians had the benefit of Arthur Currie, to my mind one of the top 3 generals in WWI. He was the driving force behind a lot of innovations and reforms in the Canadian Corps, as he learnt lessons from the experiences of other forces (primarily the British) and due to less centralised British control over their affairs, the Canadians were better able to break free of pretty restrictive, hierarchical hindrances holding back the British and French. In spite of by far being the most experienced Entente troops on the scene, the British and French were hamstrung so often by the chain of command and not necessarily (as popular culture tends to poke fun at e.g. Blackadder Goes Forth BBC Comedy series, which revels in those stereotypes belittling the leadership constantly, when really, on a micro and macro level, the British were evolving rapidly and not just pissing lives needlessly up the wall as is sometimes claimed; though of course that _did_ also happen in a sad number of cases, and even more so for the French and Russians) More independent to come up with their own methods and taking the best cues and inspiration from the British and French experiences (lessons bought at appalling cost in lives, treasure and materiel for both), the Canadians rapidly accelerated their training and utilised new assault tactics. Among other things, the Canadians pioneered the Creeping Barrage and Rolling Thunder combined arms assault with coordination with artillery and infantry assault units. Of course the British had long been doing similar things, as were the French, but the precise manner in which they did this now, was far more refined and perfected. The Canadian Corps was notable in being highly proficient in dislodging the Germans from fortified positions, as well as being equally dangerous on the defence, with excellent rifle training. Many Canadian men signed up for their service, were from rural areas and were not adverse to firearms. The Canadians were a fine addition to the British Empire's overall capabilities, and were like a very useful dagger beside the longswords of France and Britain, pointed squarely at the Germans. Vimy Ridge exemplifies the tenacity of the Canadians. However, I believe the most telling sign of how displeasing it was for the Germans to engage them, was during Operation Michael (the last German Offensive in WWI) This was mostly aimed at driving a wedge between the British and French forces, aiming to drive the British Expeditionary Force back into the sea. To this end, they hit the British forces incredibly hard with one of the most horrific artillery bombardments in WWI, and followed it with one of their most savage and frankly desperate assault using Sturmtruppen and massive infantry reserves. Entire British regiments simply ceased to exist - what was left of the poor souls in the immediate frontline, after the barrage, were annihilated by the overwhelming assault. British forces were told to die where they stood by their commanders and so many did. The British 2nd Army to the South of all British forces on the Western Front, was sent reeling with one or two regiments in particular fighting to the last man, rendered functionally destroyed. The Germans paid dearly for this as they suffered heavy losses of their own meeting increasingly aggressive and determined, dogged British resistance. The French were also drawn into the sector and helped sure up the line. The German Juggernaut, ran out of steam in this offensive. They maxed out. It had hurt the British, but the cost had been ruinous for themselves as well, and ultimately the gains weren't worth the sacrifice. The salient was too small; crushed within a few weeks back to it's starting positions as if nothing happened. During this offensive, the Germans _deliberately avoided_ the Canadian Corps, specifically marking them on the map. The Canadians held their own salient like a thorn in the German's side and would not be dislodged. Perhaps thinking to defeat them later, the Germans put most of their effort into beating the British, but failed anyway. The Canadians were among the Entente forces slamming the Germans hard in the last hundred days of the war, which rounded out the grim conflict.
I got a question, Fractured Space vs some Star Wars Vessels. As well is their Jump Drives better than Hyper Drives. It seems quicker and able to get towards the location looking at the wrong way. Though as well weaponry and drives against some Star Wars vessels. Fractured Space well used to and still is (With Community version since OG is gone, but with Community you keep everything) and it's a fun PVP spaceship fightings, along with industrial looking vessels and unique in all their ways. My favorite vessels from the game are Paragon, Reaper, Leviathan, Pioneer, and Gladiator. Well there are many amazing vessels that have their own roles making selecting your vessel pre-game important for a counter on the enemies, if enemy select a cloak ship such as Ghost or Black Widow from the United Space Research (USR), the Pioneer from USR or Punisher from Zarek Industrials (Along with others anti-stealth ships capabilities) is your choice. Though the game if you want to win, have to play with the team, I tried soloing, and ended me up dying many times.
Hey GT. I know you might not do video games. But can you review the future technology from COD: Advance warfare and see if they are accurate enough to be made in real life?
@generation tech can you do an episode on what if mandalorians lead the clones into battle or if the old republic jedi lead the GAR and occupied the council
Hey Allen love the channel your a star wars God so I was asking if you can make this a video okay we know that the clones was the best fight force in star wars history but you made a video on saying that the chiss was the best faction so my question to you is can you analyze witch two faction is the best
Clones were the perfect soldiers. They did not (due to their indoctrination) abandon their duties. Once Order 66 enacted, that doomed the clones (as the perfect soldiers). this order removed all original thinking and tactical ability (pre Order 66). Palpatine did not realize the damage he was doing to the Clones. He only saw the fact that he was "god sith" and his will was the only creative will needed in the empire. It is a shame to see such brilliant soldiers relegated to unthinking (compared to pre 66) machines and then abandoned.
Prince Thunder Spark It would probably fall even faster because they cost so much money. Also there would be less of a connection between the people who found work in the stormtrooper-units in this timeline and the empire.
@@chaospilot2142 I mean true there, but the death star also was a lot of money so I don't think the empire would really care, they probably have more zeros for their debt then their computers can count to
@@thunderspark1536 But the death star is a one time investing and because the clones age so fest you need new ones every few years. So I think it makes sence to use them if at all only as elite-units in small numbers.
@@thunderspark1536 but the clones were much more loyal to Palpatine than regular troopers. Think about this, would order 66 happen if regular humans were executing it?
Not necessarily, the only child of clones that has been written or talked about(as far as I know) was Kad Skirata, the son of Darman, a clone commando, and Etain Tur-Mukan, a Jedi, both from the unfinished Republic Commando novel series. He (spoilers ahead do not scroll down if you didn’t read the book) had his genome analyzed by a runaway kaminoan geneticist ( before Kad’s paternal grandfather killed her) and it was discovered that the gene for accelerated growth was recessive, meaning, among other things, it wouldn’t always be passed on, and in cases where it did get passed on, it wouldn’t take effect or would have reduced effect, although again, Kad is the only child of a clone that we know of so we don’t really have that much data to go on
If one of them catches a cold, you can just send them out on the open battlefield in bright colored armor and words sprayed on in every language that say “shoot me” plastered all over it. That’s how you can dispose of one
If I was Palestine I’d have the elite storm trooper corps then use all of them as clone templates and have my clones modified to grow fast only until they hit their prime then I’m going to have them age slower so they can be combat effective for more years than a normal human. Then I’d genetically modify my regular storm trooper recruits to age slower so they can be combat effective longer.
If this is true then how would the galactic civil war have gone if Palpitine kept the clones? Sence most stormtrooper officers and navy officers would be clones would less atrocities be commited? did you already do a video on this?
Worlds need to be lived in. The blame for most of this sits on Sith Lord Yoda. Don't believe me ? Let's start with, he knew about Order 66, before it happened, through multiple sources. He realized the Jedi Order needed to end, but not him, because he was more important than the Jedi Order or anyone else in the Galaxy. Even though, he fostered the Jedi's corruption for 800 years, at least. Something he could have changed the course of, as Grand Master. And are we to believe he had no idea there was a Sith in the halls of power? That he didn't notice with 800 years of political plots, something was off? Why wasn't there an investigation of the Clone army or the disappearance of a predominant Jedi Master? He removed Ashoka from Anakin's life, and denied him the Master title, which fostered bitterness. Allowed Kenobi and Padme to confront Anakin, like no one could see how that would turn out. Drove Dooku from the order, by denying him answers to valid questions. How many of his students turned or died at the hands of a Sith? He also, told Luke, that Luke was Vadar's son, almost assuring a confrontation and Luke's death, if not for a really big and delayed change of heart. Additionally, after trying to wrest power from Palpatine after the Jedi were killed in Order 66, did he try to protect survivors or train new Jedi? No, he hid. And even when a Jedi learner literally came to him, he tried to send him away, or as noted get him killed. Did he have a change of heart at the end of his unnaturally long life, which is more a Sith thing? Who knows. As an odd coincidence, Yoda showing up was just just shortly after Darth Bane disappearing. No, the blame for the Empire and the chaos that followed for centuries was all on Sith Lord Yoda, and maybe Jar Jar.
Clone Troopers=Weak... Probably the reason why they couldn't shoot worth a damn. But SW lack something just about no one stated: Humans get shot, survive, no armor! Storm Trooper gets blasted, dead!
Uh, no. No they were not. You guys are ass-kissing the clones WAAAAAY too much. Just as you people bash the Jedi unjustly, so too do you over-praise the clones for something they're not the best at. The clones don't have the numbers to occupy enemy worlds the same way the CIS battle droids or Imperial Stormtroopers did. The clones are perfect for storming enemy positions and taking out enemy fortifications, but they're not numerous enough that they can compete with droids and Stormtroopers for garrison duty. Each clone is made in Kamino after a decade of flash-training, whereas droids can be made in a day and Stormtroopers can be recruited from the populace. While the latter two are inferior to clones in terms of infantry quality, in terms of numbers needed to garrison worlds, droids and Stormtroopers outclass clones in that regard. Garrisons usually just have to deal with scattered enemy resistance forces or local unrest from the populace, not enemy forces in large numbers. Putting clones on garrison wastes their potential, not to mention the fact that the clones aren't as numerous as the Stormtroopers or battle droids, meaning that they can't cover as much ground as the other two forces could, which garrison forces have to do. At most, the Clones are in the high millions or perhaps even in the billions if we're being generous, but the Stormtroopers were in the tens of trillions and the CIS battle droids were in the QUINTILLIONS. So no, the clones are not the best option for garrisoning a planet. Assaulting planets, maybe, but not sitting on their asses and garrisoning worlds, where their potential is wasted and they are stretched thin.
I agree with their assault role as well. I think as they are an offensive tool kind of like storm troopers vs the imperial army. Plus, a traditional army(like the imperial army) or pdf supplemented with/by the clone army. Clones take the planet/whatever and pdf holds. Also, more guerilla forces. Imagining the arc where they taught the planets force to take down droidekas by rolling the nade but to a much higher degree of implementation.
@@eyesofstatic9641 Exactly. PDF forces are more suited for garrison duty than clones are. Sure, have some clones be there for garrisons-to teach local PDF forces how to fight droids while the greater mass of clone troopers assault enemy positions.
"Every soldier who puts on that uniform must come to terms with the reality that they may be buried in it." - Furher King Bradley
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Truth
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*We’ve captured a command post*
We've lost a command post!
We’ve lost a command post
*ROGER* *ROGER*
Did you do it?
We’ve captured a command post.
What did it cost?
We’ve lost a command post.
Me: The heck. If you would trade command posts why did you even bother trying to waste soldiers.
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT
I'm actually writing a book where one of the major powers uses clone soldiers. As you said their role is primarily garrison/rapid response forces but due to the amount of time they spend training for urban and CQC engagements in general law enforcement almost always make use of their skills and capabilities in SWAT roles.
Law enforcement entities love this arrangement as they don't have to spend time and resources developing and maintaining their own SWAT units and the military loves it as it gives their troops some real world experience and no small measure of prestige
Droid infantry, jedi special forces, and clone special troops would be the perfect army.
Frieza: You don't need to control the population if you kill the population.
Dumb high 189 IQ
Frieza what did you do now?
That's actually what the star Trek's dominion did too
And that's why Palpatine has my vote. They can blow up any planet except Cato Neimoidia because my buddy lives there, and that guy owes me 80 credits. Real asshole
Nobody can turn traitor if there's nobody to turn traitor.
You should make a video on how the old republic army tactics fighting alongside jedi were different from the clone wars republic army fighting alongside Jedi it would be interesting to see the contrasting tactics with a real free will army over an army whose opinion Were more constricted
Old Republic armies were better organized. Since these yahoos chose the military life, they have little, if any problems with deserters, aside from a few notable exceptions. *COUGH* Harron Tavus *COUGH* However, clones have superior combat skills due to being raised to fight from birth, so there's that.
I don't know shit about Star Wars but I'm pretty sure the main thing that made the old army fight better was that they actually hit something at times.
@@FifinatorKlon Clones and live troopers could hit things. Also, Stormtroopers were accurate too, unless their commanders told them to spare the enemy and only put on a show.
@@HolyknightVader999 yeah...the people hung up on the "stormtroopers can't hit shit" meme seem to forget ol' Ben's comments on the precise shots disabling the sandcrawler in ep. 4, and even Han's comment that the gang's escape was "too easy"
@@kazumablackwing4270 Especially when Leia stated the same thing, getting away was too easy and they were being tracked.
Clones- bred for combat and warfare and template chosen was the most feared and deadly bounty hunter in the galaxy of his age.
Stormtroopers- local civilians who are unequipped and have questionable training.
I think it’s clear to say which is better
It helps when you have tens of millions of more of one than the other.
Plus Stormtroopers will probably vary in quality: some will be on par or better than clones most will probably just be average at the most.
Have citizens become Stormtroopers as a source of income makes the population more loyal to the Empire.
Clones were way more expensive though, but who knows maybe if Palpatine didn't dump every ounce of the empire's income into TWO failed death stars, maybe he could've afforded a better army.
Your explanation of stormtroopers is incredibly incorrect and wildly dishonest.
Never stop teaching us about history Allen. It's my second favorite thing about the channel. You're my first favorite thing.
Oh, American Ben is cool too, I guess.
Grievous is only a terrible general in TCW and Canon material. Pre-TCW he was actually a significant threat both in personal combat and as strategist and tactician.
I think he meant terrible as in he’s scary foe rather than an incompetent one
@@siphonophorex fair point ^^' but then again he isn't that scary getting his ass handed over to him by Gungans, isn't he? ;D
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 Those Gungans only won thanks to Tarpal sacrifice.
@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 that still shouldn't habe happend. Grievous is literally designed and build to slaighter jedi. And he kills (in canon) 1 middling jedi via cheap shotting. Im the EU he tears through half a dozen knights and 2 council masters without difficulty and isn't treated like a joke by Kenobi every tuesday since the beginning of the war.
EU Grievous is unargueably the more intimidating incarnation of the character, and as great TCW is, its portrayel of Grievous is one of its very view big short comings.
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 you can be the most badass warrior on the planet and if you don't treat your opponents with respect you are lost. Obi Wan has a very useful style.
I heard you say “Imperial Fist” and I grabbed my bolter- boy, was I disappointed!
"Why the Clone Army was the perfect occupying force."
Because children don't complain when you enslave and force them to fight for a cause they were bred for. Well, they couldn't complain, because if they did the Kaminoans would terminate and grind them into protein paste and fed to their brothers.
Who pissed in your cornflakes?
@@kodyspicer41
Lama Su...... pissing in a humans cornflakes is one of his hobbies.
@@kodyspicer41 gtg bye bye I love you Allen and I don't want to be a part of the team duh duh duh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Where does it say that they were turned into protein paste? 😭
Mentioning the SS members in Vietnam brings me to think of another soldier. Lauri Törni was in the Finnish army in 1939 when the Soviets invaded. He fairly successfully defended Finland in the Winter War. Later during the Continuation War, when Finland joined the Nazis to fight the Soviets to reclaim their land, Lauri joined the SS to keep fighting when the war turned against the Axis. He later escaped to America, took the name Larry Thorne, and became the only member of the SS burried in Arlington after his helicopter was shot down in Vietnam.
When you come to watch generation tech, but it’s not about how to counter the rising dolphin threat or how to cook Ewoks
Video suggestions:
1. Was there ever a stormtrooper who wouldn’t fire laser ever. Like he just chose to always use stun as some sort of pacifist?
2. Why was Anakin not a target by the clones during order 66? How did he get opted out of the hitlist but not Maul or Ashoka? Was it in direct control of Palpatine?
2. Because he was on Palpatine's side
@3:56 that photo is so sad to see, look how mighty we we're back then. Another great video aswell.
And now you get reversed colonized and hopefully breed out of existence. I love democracy and what it did to the brits.
Allen is the son of George Lucas. Think about it, he knows everything about Star Wars
it's called being "LITERATE".
@@ryavix dude, with this line of logic technically we all are sons of lucas, savvyroach, keep it up I like your thinking.
Who the hell is Allen? 🤔
@@Lordsincere1 don't worry about it, good things come to those who wait.
@@Lordsincere1 plz tell me ur joking
The Grand Army of the Republic only numbered 3 million Kamino bred Fett Clones, they would have made a terrible occuptation force as at best you would have a squad per planet. What the Clones excelled at is being Stormtroopers, and when I say stormtroopers I'm not referring to Imperial Stormtrooper, but the Sturmtruppen of the First and Second World wars. Elite forces that are more aggressive, better trained, and more armed than your standard infantryman, whose mission to be the tip of the spear during an assault. The Kamino bred Fett clones fit that to a t. They are elite troops that are armed and armored with best weapons and armor in the galaxy. Only their own special operations forces such as the Republic Commandos and Arc Troopers were better trained, armed, and armored.
well yeah there’s not a lot of them, so you deploy them in force to rebellious planets, as they have no attachments to the people there, they would make a very fine yet brutal occupying force
The video is of course assuming the cloning continued to fulfill this new purpose as opposed to the shutting down of the program. Obviously.
I love how Gen Tech uses history with this vid!
I'm a fan generation tech keep up the good work and to every human or dog or life form you are important and good
Damn the dolphins
Nah the aliens aren't important.
Fuck Dolphins, they steal babies
*sad droid noises*
Except Dolphins.
It's still my personal theory that the majority of the Clone Wars was fought by planetary defense forces, especially since the clones were relatively minuscule in numbers to fight a galactic war.
The difference between Clone Troopers and Stormtroopers is like the difference between the US Army and US Marine Corps when the two operate in the same theatre. The Marines traditionally don’t occupy territory. They move into the objective area, kill everything that resists, and move on to the next target (what the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps was designed to do). The Army typically follows in, mops up any remaining resistance and occupies. That’s why the US Army has a Corps of Engineers and various other logistics and support groups within its ranks, where as the USMC really doesn’t.
THEY SHALL BE MY FINEST WARRIORS, BORN FOR WAR, BREAD FOR COMBAT. WITH THE FINEST ARMOUR THEY SHALL BE CLAD AND THE BEST WEAPONS THEY SHALL BE ARMED.
THEY ARE THE DEFENDERS OF THE EMPIRE. THEY ARE MY CLONE TROOPERS AND THEY SHALL KNOW NO FEAR!
Last time I was so early the clones were still used
Last time I was this late, all the Jedi had already died.
Also the clones could kill every rebel if they had to, if couldn't keep the peace.
Yes easy
Another good vide. Can you do something with the sith empire from swotor next maybe! Like how the sith army and navy operator, their strengths and wea,messes, etc. Perhaps what if the swtor sith returned to the galaxy around time of the galatic empire ruled it and how would swtor would go about takin get it over? Friend got me back into swtor and been imagining the sith empire remearging from the unknown regiosmafter This and some of year in self exile lol
Wow! 1000 view in 10 mins, nicely done Alan! This video rules, Clones all the way!
I have an idea for a video, what would happen if the Separatists didn't attack the Republic when they defected? Would the Republic have attacked them instead or would they have let them separate peacefully? the Republic didn't have much of an army until obi wan found Kamino so what would have happened?
Great video, thank you so much for the awesome comparison!
Great video Allen! I loved it as always
Imagine if the Resistance use small units of Clones from a new template instead of a whole army.
Maybe the real best occupational force was the friends we made along the way
at 4:07 you say that the Gurkha's, Sikhs, and Africans were all perceived as inferior. while that may be true of british perceptions towards African troops their attitude to the Gurkha's and Sikhs were very different- the British fought numerous wars against both and they were already recognized as formidable fighters.
The clones was far more superior than any other military force. Its just that they are very expensive... Nice video!
Last time I was this early, the clones were still in their embryos
Oblivious Dad
So not too long ago?
@@vereinigtekonigreicheoster35 maybe a day or two ago
I love this guy
As a big history buff and fan of the French military, this is entirely spot on.
2:45 just casually chuck in a scene from pacific rim lol
Oh nice! These vids are the best
all the dislikes are from storm troopers
Only imperial stormtroopers are this accurate
I disliked.
Clone troopers are the MVPs of War.
You mean the Grand Republic turns into an Empire?!?! Dang it that’s what I get for being so early again.
Keep up the good work
WHAT IF:
The Jedi successfully assassinated Grievous early in the clone war
Generation Films, outsourcing script writing to the masses.
I vote a video on the battle of jakku that’s be clutch it’s confusing as hell as to what happened in between 6 and 7
can u do a video on best species for a admiral or general
I have a challenge for you and the guys to consider Allen. British Ben puts his 5 Star Trek Ships against your 5 Star Wars ships. American Ben can judge the competition. Whoever wins 3 of the matchups is declared Supreme Techie. 5 ships would be a fighter (we can count USS Defiant as a fighter), corvette, frigate, dreadnaught and super dreadnaught (guess he’s using a Borg Cube 😂). You guys can give your data and arguments why yours would win and American Ben would then declare a winner. Just an idea, love watching every video, from both Tech and Films.
Clone Troopers for the win!!!!
Clones are amazing
Love these videos keep up the good work but never forget that the true enemy is swimming around us now in our weakest times ready to strike!
I wonder if there are videos about fan made Clone Battalions, Legions, or Corps?
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Now that's when you know people are supporters of HUMANITY FIRST
"Canadian troops despite being deemed undisciplined quickly became known as hard to kill (...)"
(Don't forget that part.)
"And good at killing"
Yea they were especially feared by the axis during ww2 apparently they didn’t have e logistics to handle Pows so they just executed them
@@GenerationTech The reason why the Germans had a fear of the Canadians by the Second World War, among other Allied forces, was because of their reputation (well-earned) from the First World War. Although not having an immediate introduction to the Western Front like the French and British, the Canadian Corps became one of the most effective, creative and inventive fighting forces on the Western Front during the First World War. Well-trained and overseen by British observers, and Canadian officers alike, the Canadians were never really considered shambolic from what I recall of the history of this. Canada was basically always loyal. The only thing that may have irked some stuffier characters in the elitist British High Command, may have been the reluctance of the Canadian leadership to commit troops to the Western Front (stalling as long as possible, from the Canadian PM down) This was not to say that the Canadians were considered slovenly.
Never heard of that. Perhaps earlier on a degree of scepticism on their seriousness may have existed in some corners of the imperial bureaucracy but I really don't think that amounted to much. When the Canadians were fully deployed as a very decent contibution of about 90,000 to 100,000 men in around 3 corps sized units, they had a positive impact on the Western Front. Benefiting from being held back (in greater force; some Canadians did fight much earlier, as far back as 1915 ish) for so long until 1917 onward for the majority, in terms of being able to learn from the lessons of primarily the British and French, as well as simply have more time to train and receive increasingly better equipment e.g. replacing out their rifles more than once, the Canadians were also a much fresher and generally better led fighting force for their numbers. They were, like the Australian Corps, considered some of the British Empire's finest troops by the end of the war. This is no exaggeration whatsoever - tactically and strategically, the Canadian Corps were feared.
The British Army had several highly respected regiments and more elite units, in it's own right; though years of brutal trench warfare across not only the Western Front but others, had bled the British badly, and while millions of British troops still fought on and although I believe the Entente victory was almost assured even without the USA, there was a need for fresh, well-trained troops to replace losses, especially after Russia dropped out of the war allowing Germany to transport over a million Eastern Front veterans to the Western Front pretty much straight away, with many more to follow. Britain and France held the line, but the arrival of Canadian and US forces to the region, was welcomed (at least, by high command - whereas British soldiers were pretty scathing of US troops who they openly mocked as ''dough boys'' aka soft and weak, in need of kneading and remoulding into proper soldiers; think old Clone troopers calling rookies shinies, that sort of thing)
The Canadians had the benefit of Arthur Currie, to my mind one of the top 3 generals in WWI. He was the driving force behind a lot of innovations and reforms in the Canadian Corps, as he learnt lessons from the experiences of other forces (primarily the British) and due to less centralised British control over their affairs, the Canadians were better able to break free of pretty restrictive, hierarchical hindrances holding back the British and French. In spite of by far being the most experienced Entente troops on the scene, the British and French were hamstrung so often by the chain of command and not necessarily (as popular culture tends to poke fun at e.g. Blackadder Goes Forth BBC Comedy series, which revels in those stereotypes belittling the leadership constantly, when really, on a micro and macro level, the British were evolving rapidly and not just pissing lives needlessly up the wall as is sometimes claimed; though of course that _did_ also happen in a sad number of cases, and even more so for the French and Russians)
More independent to come up with their own methods and taking the best cues and inspiration from the British and French experiences (lessons bought at appalling cost in lives, treasure and materiel for both), the Canadians rapidly accelerated their training and utilised new assault tactics. Among other things, the Canadians pioneered the Creeping Barrage and Rolling Thunder combined arms assault with coordination with artillery and infantry assault units. Of course the British had long been doing similar things, as were the French, but the precise manner in which they did this now, was far more refined and perfected. The Canadian Corps was notable in being highly proficient in dislodging the Germans from fortified positions, as well as being equally dangerous on the defence, with excellent rifle training. Many Canadian men signed up for their service, were from rural areas and were not adverse to firearms.
The Canadians were a fine addition to the British Empire's overall capabilities, and were like a very useful dagger beside the longswords of France and Britain, pointed squarely at the Germans. Vimy Ridge exemplifies the tenacity of the Canadians. However, I believe the most telling sign of how displeasing it was for the Germans to engage them, was during Operation Michael (the last German Offensive in WWI) This was mostly aimed at driving a wedge between the British and French forces, aiming to drive the British Expeditionary Force back into the sea. To this end, they hit the British forces incredibly hard with one of the most horrific artillery bombardments in WWI, and followed it with one of their most savage and frankly desperate assault using Sturmtruppen and massive infantry reserves.
Entire British regiments simply ceased to exist - what was left of the poor souls in the immediate frontline, after the barrage, were annihilated by the overwhelming assault. British forces were told to die where they stood by their commanders and so many did. The British 2nd Army to the South of all British forces on the Western Front, was sent reeling with one or two regiments in particular fighting to the last man, rendered functionally destroyed. The Germans paid dearly for this as they suffered heavy losses of their own meeting increasingly aggressive and determined, dogged British resistance. The French were also drawn into the sector and helped sure up the line. The German Juggernaut, ran out of steam in this offensive. They maxed out. It had hurt the British, but the cost had been ruinous for themselves as well, and ultimately the gains weren't worth the sacrifice. The salient was too small; crushed within a few weeks back to it's starting positions as if nothing happened. During this offensive, the Germans _deliberately avoided_ the Canadian Corps, specifically marking them on the map. The Canadians held their own salient like a thorn in the German's side and would not be dislodged. Perhaps thinking to defeat them later, the Germans put most of their effort into beating the British, but failed anyway. The Canadians were among the Entente forces slamming the Germans hard in the last hundred days of the war, which rounded out the grim conflict.
was the 501st the best clone legion or whatever u call it?
Vader’s fist, yes they were
Finalmente chegou o vídeo
The amount of peaple in lower level in corsont that would be willing to join just for meals and money for there family is uncountable
I got a question, Fractured Space vs some Star Wars Vessels. As well is their Jump Drives better than Hyper Drives. It seems quicker and able to get towards the location looking at the wrong way. Though as well weaponry and drives against some Star Wars vessels.
Fractured Space well used to and still is (With Community version since OG is gone, but with Community you keep everything) and it's a fun PVP spaceship fightings, along with industrial looking vessels and unique in all their ways.
My favorite vessels from the game are Paragon, Reaper, Leviathan, Pioneer, and Gladiator. Well there are many amazing vessels that have their own roles making selecting your vessel pre-game important for a counter on the enemies, if enemy select a cloak ship such as Ghost or Black Widow from the United Space Research (USR), the Pioneer from USR or Punisher from Zarek Industrials (Along with others anti-stealth ships capabilities) is your choice. Though the game if you want to win, have to play with the team, I tried soloing, and ended me up dying many times.
Hey GT. I know you might not do video games. But can you review the future technology from COD: Advance warfare and see if they are accurate enough to be made in real life?
@generation tech can you do an episode on what if mandalorians lead the clones into battle or if the old republic jedi lead the GAR and occupied the council
I’m 37 seconds early how bout that
Hope you pulled out regardless
I agree
It’s because they warned you about wrist rockets. Very important.
9:56 commander wolfe
Do a theory on what the Bad Batch series will be about
Hey Allen love the channel your a star wars God so I was asking if you can make this a video okay we know that the clones was the best fight force in star wars history but you made a video on saying that the chiss was the best faction so my question to you is can you analyze witch two faction is the best
What do you think the energy bill for the cis was
Hey my names Blair too, dont hear about many Blairs too often.
5:49 Is that a younger Rose Tico?
Music is a bit too loud in this video, otherwise loved it!
Clones were the perfect soldiers. They did not (due to their indoctrination) abandon their duties.
Once Order 66 enacted, that doomed the clones (as the perfect soldiers). this order removed all original thinking and tactical ability (pre Order 66). Palpatine did not realize the damage he was doing to the Clones. He only saw the fact that he was "god sith" and his will was the only creative will needed in the empire.
It is a shame to see such brilliant soldiers relegated to unthinking (compared to pre 66) machines and then abandoned.
Would the Empire have fallen had the Clone Army not been scraped?
Probably still given how the emperor was extreamly overconfident and made lots of mistakes
Prince Thunder Spark It would probably fall even faster because they cost so much money. Also there would be less of a connection between the people who found work in the stormtrooper-units in this timeline and the empire.
@@chaospilot2142 I mean true there, but the death star also was a lot of money so I don't think the empire would really care, they probably have more zeros for their debt then their computers can count to
@@thunderspark1536 But the death star is a one time investing and because the clones age so fest you need new ones every few years. So I think it makes sence to use them if at all only as elite-units in small numbers.
@@thunderspark1536 but the clones were much more loyal to Palpatine than regular troopers. Think about this, would order 66 happen if regular humans were executing it?
RIP Jessie
I disagree with the notion that the clones where barely human.
Hi who's excited for the bad batch TV show :)
I love you Allen
Make a video about how fox wasn't wrong to kill fives
Notification Gang!!!!!
Since *all* clones have *genes* that cause them to *age extremely fast* ,
wouldn't their *children* also *age faster* than normal (~25% faster)?!?!!
Not necessarily, the only child of clones that has been written or talked about(as far as I know) was Kad Skirata, the son of Darman, a clone commando, and Etain Tur-Mukan, a Jedi, both from the unfinished Republic Commando novel series. He (spoilers ahead do not scroll down if you didn’t read the book)
had his genome analyzed by a runaway kaminoan geneticist ( before Kad’s paternal grandfather killed her) and it was discovered that the gene for accelerated growth was recessive, meaning, among other things, it wouldn’t always be passed on, and in cases where it did get passed on, it wouldn’t take effect or would have reduced effect, although again, Kad is the only child of a clone that we know of so we don’t really have that much data to go on
hey im waiting the republic vs the earth video
Earth Vs. The Galactic Republic please
Will you ever do the republic vs earth
What if one of them catches a cold?… …
he's summarily executed as xeno living anti-vaxer he is.
galactic corona? I'm not ready for that
If one of them catches a cold, you can just send them out on the open battlefield in bright colored armor and words sprayed on in every language that say “shoot me” plastered all over it. That’s how you can dispose of one
What is Benedict Cumberbatch doing at 4:10?
If I was Palestine I’d have the elite storm trooper corps then use all of them as clone templates and have my clones modified to grow fast only until they hit their prime then I’m going to have them age slower so they can be combat effective for more years than a normal human. Then I’d genetically modify my regular storm trooper recruits to age slower so they can be combat effective longer.
If this is true then how would the galactic civil war have gone if Palpitine kept the clones? Sence most stormtrooper officers and navy officers would be clones would less atrocities be commited? did you already do a video on this?
Well, Palpatine kept clones in legends, GCW was still lost...
have u ever heard how wise i am
Storm Troopers have thoughts and they couldn't be traitors
Worlds need to be lived in.
The blame for most of this sits on Sith Lord Yoda.
Don't believe me ? Let's start with, he knew about Order 66, before it happened, through multiple sources. He realized the Jedi Order needed to end, but not him, because he was more important than the Jedi Order or anyone else in the Galaxy. Even though, he fostered the Jedi's corruption for 800 years, at least. Something he could have changed the course of, as Grand Master. And are we to believe he had no idea there was a Sith in the halls of power? That he didn't notice with 800 years of political plots, something was off? Why wasn't there an investigation of the Clone army or the disappearance of a predominant Jedi Master? He removed Ashoka from Anakin's life, and denied him the Master title, which fostered bitterness. Allowed Kenobi and Padme to confront Anakin, like no one could see how that would turn out. Drove Dooku from the order, by denying him answers to valid questions. How many of his students turned or died at the hands of a Sith? He also, told Luke, that Luke was Vadar's son, almost assuring a confrontation and Luke's death, if not for a really big and delayed change of heart. Additionally, after trying to wrest power from Palpatine after the Jedi were killed in Order 66, did he try to protect survivors or train new Jedi? No, he hid. And even when a Jedi learner literally came to him, he tried to send him away, or as noted get him killed. Did he have a change of heart at the end of his unnaturally long life, which is more a Sith thing? Who knows. As an odd coincidence, Yoda showing up was just just shortly after Darth Bane disappearing.
No, the blame for the Empire and the chaos that followed for centuries was all on Sith Lord Yoda, and maybe Jar Jar.
Last time I was this early Darth Maul wasn't half the man he used to be
Ninety Fifth post! BOOYA!
Clone Troopers=Weak... Probably the reason why they couldn't shoot worth a damn. But SW lack something just about no one stated:
Humans get shot, survive, no armor!
Storm Trooper gets blasted, dead!
U should rename the channel to Generation Tech: My name is Allen.
19 likes 0 views seems legit
19 guys that liked before watching the vid lol
@@Spectre-_-16NL nope..... likes update faster than views
generation tech should make a tik tok for videos about stuff that isn't good enough for full 10-20 minute youtube vids
War is awaste of life
I love how wrongly he says Aussie
Uh, no. No they were not. You guys are ass-kissing the clones WAAAAAY too much. Just as you people bash the Jedi unjustly, so too do you over-praise the clones for something they're not the best at. The clones don't have the numbers to occupy enemy worlds the same way the CIS battle droids or Imperial Stormtroopers did. The clones are perfect for storming enemy positions and taking out enemy fortifications, but they're not numerous enough that they can compete with droids and Stormtroopers for garrison duty. Each clone is made in Kamino after a decade of flash-training, whereas droids can be made in a day and Stormtroopers can be recruited from the populace. While the latter two are inferior to clones in terms of infantry quality, in terms of numbers needed to garrison worlds, droids and Stormtroopers outclass clones in that regard.
Garrisons usually just have to deal with scattered enemy resistance forces or local unrest from the populace, not enemy forces in large numbers. Putting clones on garrison wastes their potential, not to mention the fact that the clones aren't as numerous as the Stormtroopers or battle droids, meaning that they can't cover as much ground as the other two forces could, which garrison forces have to do. At most, the Clones are in the high millions or perhaps even in the billions if we're being generous, but the Stormtroopers were in the tens of trillions and the CIS battle droids were in the QUINTILLIONS. So no, the clones are not the best option for garrisoning a planet. Assaulting planets, maybe, but not sitting on their asses and garrisoning worlds, where their potential is wasted and they are stretched thin.
I agree with their assault role as well. I think as they are an offensive tool kind of like storm troopers vs the imperial army. Plus, a traditional army(like the imperial army) or pdf supplemented with/by the clone army. Clones take the planet/whatever and pdf holds.
Also, more guerilla forces. Imagining the arc where they taught the planets force to take down droidekas by rolling the nade but to a much higher degree of implementation.
Hold on, isn’t the whole point of the clone army to be versatile and adapt to any situation
The amount of tactical analysis in this comment section hurts my brain
:(
@@Will-jh1cn But they don't have the numbers for garrisoning the same way the droids and Stormtroopers do.
@@eyesofstatic9641 Exactly. PDF forces are more suited for garrison duty than clones are. Sure, have some clones be there for garrisons-to teach local PDF forces how to fight droids while the greater mass of clone troopers assault enemy positions.
I think clones should be isb and storm troopers should occupy since clones are better than stormtrooperd
All I gotta say is, Allen did you shave? Lololol
Dude. The music is too loud.
But would the volunteer army executed their jedi generals?