CHEAP Conduit Lumber Rack - 163
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Subscribe for new videos every week. I had a last minute change of plans before building this. I realized that using pipe for the arms would be a lot easier and less expensive. I also read a few instances online where people have used 3/4" EMT conduit for the lumber rack arms with good results after several years. So, that's the route I went with.
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What a great idea. Not only does that save money, but also a lot of time. Nicely done.
April Wilkerson Thank you April.
great tip about countersinking the backside to allow for drywall.
I think the most elegant part of this design is how little sawdust it collects if nothing is on a shelf.
Remember that if you don't make your comment public or at least tag me in it I cannot respond to your questions!!!!!!
Jay Bates where can i get that countersink bit?
+Jay Bates What size forstner bit did you use? 3/4" conduit is the measurement of inner diameter of the pipe. the outer diameter is bigger than 7/8" but smaller than 1 inch. i started this project but split the 2x4s when i used the 7/8" forstner bit, i had to force the pipe in. and 1in. forstner leaves too much play. I guess ill have to order a 15/16" forstner
+Jay bates nevermind. I did it with the 1" forstner. worked perfectly. Then i read someone elses comment below on the same thing. haha sorry man. GREAT VIDEO
I know this is an old post, but I just built more of these using an 15/16" spade bit, fits like a glove. Cost about $2 on Amazon.
"You con du it!" Like the creative substitution, appreciate the share..
Rob Shamel hahaha!
That is a great project and a great idea. I love how you give the measurements it help my age group retired and medical conditions added to our age at around 60 plus and your idea gives me a great help as I can stack the woods off the ground and I can also mount these lower to suit my conditions. Thanks a million. I love your videos and I'm very impressed with your camera views of your works and explanations in case I miss something and when I don't see or understand something your great explanation bring it home. You're great
This was so helpful. I'm in the design process of building one of these and, it just so happens that I use that conduit to build 'cat proof' fencing. I bend the conduit to create arms that hang over the main fence and then I attached netting. The cats can't get out after that. What a great idea you had using the conduit. Thanks for the video.
Great tips, one of these racks are on my to do list, just have not done it yet. If the weight ever does start to be a problem, just slip a dowel, pvc pipe or ??? into the conduit, a tube in a tube is very very hard to bend. If the conduit wants to bend the weight is spread out over the in side tube which makes it that much harder to bend.
woodturningjohn Great thinking John.
I really appreciate the speed of your videos. I'm usually hesitant to watch shorter videos because I figure they gloss over too much important stuff, but even worse are the ones that take an hour to stammer through every tiny detail. The video editing / fast forward through obvious and repetitive steps is awesome. Thanks man, just subscribed.
Made one this weekend to finally make use of the wall behind my lawn mower and trash cans. Stained with Bombay mahogany and wrapped pipes in black electrical tape. Very aesthetically pleasing. Thanks for the vid
Put some vinyl or rubber furniture tips on the exposed ends.
@@fiftyoon I did. Thank you.
@@amalfi615 Wondering whether 7/8" or 1" furniture tips worked for you?
@@fiftyoon I don't remember what I bought but I did buy slightly bigger ones as I wrapped the conduit with electric tape first
Excellent tutorial.Simple and to the point.This is the way to learn well.Your teaching techniques are perfect for the novice learner.Thanks a bunch.
Conduit is the cheapest and strongest material you can buy at the hardware store and it is not used in DIY projects nearly enough. Thanks for making and sharing.
Robb's Homemade Life I'm beginning to find that out!
That may be but the conduit is not anchored into the 2x4's, right? Just pressed into its hole? If you're pulling out something heavy from the wall won't it pull the conduit out a bit? You'd have to be continually checking it to see if its slipped out. Can't we anchor the conduit to a flat surface somehow? Another problem with this design is its 3.5" out from the wall. That's wasted space. 7" if its used on both walls. But wall standards have brackets that would use up valuable vertical space because of their needed height so you couldn't use them. Perhaps a bracket that's curved underneath the shelf? Not easy. Most people are just using wood for brackets. The great thing about conduit is its so narrow in diameter. So you can use several levels without using up much vertical space. The more levels the less weight each needs to hold. If there was conduit with an adapter for wall standards that would be great. One could use maybe 3/8" plywood anchored to the 2x4 verticals to make sure the conduit doesn't move out from the wall. And then you would never have to worry about heavy objects denting the bottom lumber.
I did this in my shop (audio rental)for audio cables. We did a little extra by adding an elbow and a 4” section to stop them from falling off when pulling from a nearby peg. Great tip.
Thanks for the video, Jay!!! I did this in my shop this past weekend and it worked out great!!! The only thing I did different was to use 6" lag bolts instead of the the washer head scews because they were more than half the price of the screws.
Most economically practical wood storage I have ever seen. I think this is for me. My first wood storage I made years ago I did the same, but used dowels. Much more expensive than EMT. Great idea.
threeque Thanks! How are the dowels holding up?
Jay Bates It is long gone. Was very light duty for balsa and wings for RC planes. It was probably only 3/8" dowels.
Thanks! I’m building a woodworking shed that has exposed studs. It’s tempting to just drill the studs and mount the EMT, but I think it will be easier to drill new studs on the drill press and mount them next to the existing ones.
Great job. Easy design and better than almost all the commercial products. I went with 1/2 inch black pipe and the rack is super strong.
I just finished building mine, but I made one design change. Instead of the 6" screws holding the boards to the wall, instead I used the holes I'd already drilled with my forstner bit. I could only go about 2 1/2" with my cheapo drill press, so it left me about 1" of meat to work with. I pre-drilled holes through to the other side, then used 1/4 X3" lag bolts with washers to attach the boards to my studs. Of course, the lag bolts are hidden once you install the EMT pipes. I have 20" pipe lengths, and they are holding up like a champ.
WHen I watched this vid, I was thinking I would use lag bolts too, but I'm not a structural engineer. I like your idea of hiding the bolts, guys like us will look at it and say, how the hell is that hanging up there.
Just 7 short years ago.... Watching this video comparted to your new shop is pretty amazing.
Love this approach, so much simpler and more cost effective than the 2x4 & plywood overlap generally seen. Great job Jay, can't want to build my own!
David Hourigan Thanks David. Hope it works well for you.
Loved your lumber rack so much that I built one very similar for shop that I am building. I used 3/4" EMT and drilled the holes with a 15/16" spade bit. Was planning on using a forstner bit but all I had was 7/8" or 1" with one too small and the other too loose. All I could fine locally in 15/16 was a spade bit but it worked fine. Took some pictures and was going to upload but don't see an option for that.
Great build, I didn't know about counter sinking the back of the boards. It is perfectly logical. I also like your storage for your paint can. Thank you for sharing your time and skills with us.
Jay2525Jay you're very welcome. Thanks for watching Jay.
i never build anything and don't really have any tools but i love watching videos like this and it makes me want to take on my own projects.
Wow, been up for almost a year and a half and hasn't fallen off the wall yet, who woulda thought! Great job as always, a smaller version is going up in my shop, thanks Jay.
+Greg Lewis It's loaded with red oak right now too!
Organization is the key to our success. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
Great job Jay, I actually purchase 2 by material a couple a weeks ago to build a new lumber storage in my shop, you gave me a great solution. I always look forward each week to see what you are building. Have a great and blessed day.
Ed White Thanks Ed. Glad you found this useful. And thanks for always stopping by. Much appreciated friend :)
Epic Jay, I just finished making this. Cleaned up my small workshop perfectly. Kudos brother, this is a great build
Hi Jay, hope everyone is staying healthy. I started on the conduit lumber rack, using 1/2” conduit because I had it on hand. It measures .706” outside diameter. A 3/4” hole is kind of loose (tried a 3/4” Forstner bit, spade bit and drill bit), and 11/16” is too tight. At this time, I’m inclined to increase the angle from 11 degrees to 15, and go with the 3/4” drill bit. I found the 6” Timberlock and Headlock washer head screws, as well as some 3” washer head screws, instead of wood screws. I like the concept and should have it completed soon. The use of conduit enables this rack to be more compact, in terms of vertical space. Three levels will fit above the Wood magazine plywood cart and below the mini-split. I’m also planning to install two or three levels above the garage door. Thanks again!
sweet thanks just found a use for all my scrap 3/4" EMT from wiring my hangar
Nice design Jay, wood isn't always the answer. Planning on building this for my shop. Thanks!
Michael Alm very cool. Hope it serves your needs well.
I did something similar to this in my pole barn. I drilled holes in the 6x6 vertical beams and used conduit to make the rack. Works great.
thepsycomagican Nice!
Really like the way you do your vids. You show everything is a way that is not boring for the viewer. Very well done!
Thank God for Jay Bates, my entire subscription feed is full of crap videos and ALS ice bucket challenges. Jay and a couple of others are the only ones putting out decent material these last couple of weeks. Keep up the good work and thanks for content that I can actually watch.
Even though you made this video 6 years ago, I am relying on your test of the strength of the 3/4 emt conduit! Just built a similar rack and put a load of cherry on it. I used green 2x4 (actual size) rough cut Hemlock from my local mill. Now I just hope that the thickness of the EMT Conduit has not varied since you did your test! I enjoy your videos, thanks.
I just scored a lot of great hardwood at an estate sale, and when I got it home I needed to upgrade my lumber rack to store it all. I debated on building something similar to what I already had using wood racks (wood whisperer style), but then I saw this video and decided it would be the easiest. Wow...this system was crazy cheap to build, went up super quick, and is pretty much indestructible. The only part that that really took any time was over at the drill press. I would have never thought to use EMT, but I've got my new lumber rack packed to the hilt and it's solid. I'll be looking to EMT for a few other things in the shop now.
Hi Jay,
I made one of these a few years ago. I used two 2x4's layed flat for each leg. It is very strong and I like that it is adjustable. Great project. All I had to buy was a pipe cutter.
I love your belt sander!
Thanks for sharing.
Chem Cody you're very welcome. I wish I would have used a pipe cutter instead of the saw to cut the pipe.
Ok built the conduit rack.. I was adding studs to my garage/shop as there was only a stud every 4' with a horizontal member. I opted to drill the studs prior to installing and worked great! There's due a great idea!
Hey-When I have odd-sized holes to bore (like for the conduit) I just take the next larger size paddle bit over to the grinder and take the edges off until I have the fit I'm after. They're just a couple of bucks. I have built racks and shelves using both EMT and iron pipe, now I have bits for both types of pipe.
OMG! I had forgot where I had seen this video so long ago! .... Another one of your ideas that I've built! ... and I have had tonnes of compliments on it and the best was the look of amazement on 2 electricians that came by one day and they couldn't wait to get home to their conduit tubing! LOL
2019, almost 2020, still relevant. And look at that sub count!! Congratulations Jay
Very practical. I watched another lumber storage project and it was so much more complex and time consuming for the same result (the overused french cleat system). Simple (and usually cheaper) is usually best.
Jay, man I've been looking at lumber rack's online all morning for my small garage shop. I was about to go ahead with the half lap 2x4 option you posted a while back, but this new plan would work so much better for my needs. Thanks for all the videos and tips.
Andy Pappas you're very welcome. Glad you find it useful.
Just finished this lumber rack. It was inexpensive and it’s going to be great. Thanks, Jay!
Nice job Jay, this past weekend, I was in the shop thinking about how to hang a lumber rack on the wall.
Perfect timing.
Sebastopolmark Very cool.
This is a great video. You just gave me a better idea to make room in my garage Thank you for sharing!!
With every video the shop is looking better...I like the logo, very cool....great lumber rack.
ShavingWood Thanks man. Thanks for always stopping by too!
not a problem, your welcome.
Jay, thanks for sharing this design. I ended up modifying it into a free-standing version (sits on the floor) since my basement isn't framed yet, but otherwise stuck with the EMT/2x4 design. I also pinned in the pipe arms with some 1-1/4" self-drilling drywall screws (the kind for going into steel studs) since I'm concerned about them working their way out over time. I think it will serve me well.
Thanks Jay. Just built a lumber rack using the EMT conduit. I did make some alterations. I put the conduit holes through the 4" face, opposite of the face you used and I did wind up using a 7/8" Forester bit. As the 7/8" is a little tight, I drilled the 7/8" hole, then offset by 1/16" and drilled down with the 7/8" bit to make the hole oval in the vertical direction. I was able to pound the conduit in with this little relief and it is held nice and tight. Having the tighter hole will add some support to make up for what was lost by not using the board the long way from your design. Important note though, you have to be careful how close to the end of the board the last hole is. If it is too close, pounding the conduit in with the squeeze could split the board as it did to one of mine. I'd leave at least 6" from the end. Thanks again!
Love this idea, I built one 2' tall with 3 legs on each. I put them 16" oc and have about 600 lbs dispersed on each of the 3 runs. Plenty strong enough! I now have storage for 12' cherry, birch, maple and walnut. I have plans to make another of these to replace some storebought shelving that has sharp edges and scratches my material. Thanks for the video!
Awesome project, I am so doing this on the side of my house( carport area) it'll reduce tons of clutter! Thanks for sharing.
Useful, easy and cheap. Awesome work Jay!!
Joshua Herzberger Thank you Joshua. I appreciate it.
Thanks so much. My garage is starting to look better every day!
Really enjoy your videos! As a novice, i always pick some excellent ideas, tips, tricks, and techniques. Thank you! Subbed
EMT is great stuff ... I usually have some around the shop for use as handles/push bars on tool carts, etc. The 2X uprights will fail before the EMT will bend ... terrific solution.
Gerald Jensen EMT HANDLES!!! Thanks!!!!!!
Jay
Thanks for the inspiration, I built one in the garage and then helped my neighbor build one as well. Works great
Awesome. Nothing like helping each other out :)
Thanks Jay for the inexpensive lumber rack, love your video's. I have used many of your ideas. Thanks for your contribution to us Garage wood workers, really appreciate you.
Dev Ogle You're very welcome Dev. Thank you for watching :)
I used 1/2” conduit and have had no issues. Cheap, easy and effective storage system. Best tip I can give is to keep the conduit lengths relatively short- 12” is long enough.
Jay Bates, This is Simple...and it works...thank you for your design..it will be going into my small shop
Nice idea. I would make a small change and give it a slight upward angle on the holes so you could use it for plumbing pipes not just wood. Another thing you could do is put some kind of chair protectors on the end , like those rubber things, so it doesn't scratch anyone walking by. But great job just the same.
At 0:55 in the video, he inserts a wood block under one side of his drill press table to give it that angle.
Nice job, Jay. I like the videos of seeing the garage go from a blank slate to a shop.
Robert Mazzitelli I'll be glad when it's "done" well....more done.
Nice idea. Simple, cheap, effective, and easy to build.
As some may have commented already, a great example of economy in terms of materials without scarificing strength.
Nice tip about counter sinking on the backside for the drywall.
Arcadia Studios Thank you.
Nice video. I like your format with the virtual model before the actual build.
Also, it's kinda funny you built that over-the-door storage area without any need for it at the time...looks already full.
***** lol. Yup. Eating my words on that one. I filled up one side already :|
I like this idea a lot, only change I would make would be gluing the conduit in place to be sure they aren't pulled out during use. Thanks for sharing.
azkid110 I don't ever see them falling out. They are on an angle and about 3" into the 2x4. Thanks for watching.
Hi Jay, I have been using this same method for years. Often I just find the center line on the studs and drill the holes directly in the studs. I have never had 1 fail to date.
I also have a similar rack on casters to hold the ends of my pipe clamps for glue ups,It just saves space during glue ups. I don't really need to save space as my shop is over 3000 sqft. It does however cut down on the walking though. thanks for your continued effort on these projects, Todd
Todd Swartwood Sounds like a huge shop! You're very welcome and thanks for stopping by Todd.
I just built this rack--- I love it. Thanks for the idea. I used 1" pipe.
Thanks for providing the free plans.
Great idea! I have used 3/4” EMT as hangers for things like ladders and tools….just drill my hole and shove an 10” EMT into it and hang whatever need to be.
We built a double rack for our pipe and wood, and it’s a MESS!
We can build this inside and will be able to separate everything. And use the bottom row as wire coil holders
Saves a lot of time to use the EMT! For rough lumber it probably doesn't matter but do you think the small cross sectional area in contact with the pipe will "dent" the wood? Great, great build as always Jay Bates Oh, enjoy your week out of town!!
Good question. I would think the weight would be distributed enough, unless you had a large stack on top of it. You could cut a pool noodle and slip it on the conduit if you were worried about it. That might prevent damage to the wood.
Peter Gillock. Am sure your right...would deff go with a noodle, or put plywood over the bars if I had say walnut or cherry.....although they are harder. Btw, brilliant idea using a pool noodle, the second great pool noodle idea I've seen this week!
***** A pool noodle like peter said would eiliminate that however I don't see it being a problem.
Pool noodle! Overkill! LOL. Pipe insulation maybe. But again, denting would seldom, if ever be a problem.
Jay Bates Hi Jay
Great idea on this rack. no braces in the way. I agree with you in that the likelihood of wood denting is slim and none, besides any project would be sanded anyway. but on the ones head high and lower I might put some rubber tips made for crutches or canes on them. just a thought.
Have a great day Ken
You have totally inspired me!
Thanks Jay.....I have been looking for a simple solution for my increasing lumber stock whether its new lumber or my cut offs. I am going to build this soon. Great Job!
Todd Gardner Thanks. Good luck with yours!
Excellent idea for a quicker cheaper solution! I use that conduit on pipe clamps, have for years... cheaper than black pipe!
Chris Pine Pipe clamps? Really.... hmmm...............
Jay Bates I used the heavy duty conduit for the pipe clamps... It is as thick or close to as thick as pipe
Jay i absolutely loved this idea. I made one in my shop and what a difference!! Thanks 👍👍
Great project.Simple,economical, and look's great.
Sounds great! I will build them!! It will save more space in my garage woodshop! Many Thanks!!
Thanks Jay for your inspiration...I just completed a much needed rack of my own, based on your plans. 🤘
Best version I've seen yet.
Excellent idea, thank you. Now when are we going to come up with a 4x8 sheet storage concept that almost as good as your conduit idea would be great.
Again thank you for sharing your lumber storage idea using conduit, what a great idea.
Jack, from the Show Me State and home of the Kansas City Chiefs, Missouri
Sweat job Jay!
Just a quick note aboutthe strength. Given the amout of "deflection" with you standing upon a length of pipe, a reasonable estimate is 200 lbs. Assumeing the wall mount to have "infinite" sheer strength (i.e. only consider the weight the pipes could hold), each level of your rack would be able to hold 1200 lbs (~1/2 ton)!
Michael Olsen Plenty strong enough for my needs.
But then...it's attached by 2 washer head screws to the wall (or some additional ones in the holes)??
This is the part in my project where I fear more that on the pipes/arm strenght holding the wood.
Great video Jay. Just purchased what I need for 12 ft verticals
yeah, that is a lot of holes! Great useful project, Jay!
ps, isn't it kind of ironic that you're already running out of space in your new shop? :-)
wordsnwood Not really running out of space. Just very disorganized at the moment. Once I get everything put up it should be much easier to work in there.
@Jay Bates Way too NICE ! The conduits culd have been at an angle instead of horizontal
I'm totally going to steal this ... and I'm joint to name it after you. "Is that your lumber rack? No... That's Jay, Jay holds my lumber."
hassleoffa hahahah. So funny.
I know I'm responding to an old video, but I like this idea, and it might work great for wood storage in a small shed based shop space I'm creating.
Very cool design. I had a flashback of the peg board that my high school gym teacher used to make us climb up.
Eric Wright Dude!! What was that called? We used to have one too. Climbing up wasn't hard but getting back down with every peg hole was.
We literally just called it the peg board and yes it was very difficult. There was this guy a grade ahead of me. We called him 410 because that was his 1RM for bench press. He would do a one arm pullup every time he moved a peg up or down. He was taking some crazy black market roids from mexico so he probably doesn't have a liver now but, man everybody though he was the coolest. :)
Great idea! Exactly what I needed. Thanks for sharing this project.
Good idea, can make the thing more modular 👍 Thanks !
Glad you included footage of the very "scientific" strength test. Now the data cannot be refuted. Lol lots of nice tips in this one. Thanks for the info.
Just me talking here, but I was hoping for another "Only Chuck Norris" video after this one...
Rusty Pup hahaha! Missed opportunity..
Mitchell Martin you're very welcome Mr. Martin. Thanks for watching man.
Thanks! I did this and it came out great! Avail wall space was a little smaller so scaled down to fit. Great vid! Had to get creative on angled holes, w couple scraps of 2 by assisting the tilt. Need a better drill press now. :-)
If you do a similar project, my experience is starting at the top makes hanging the uprights easier overall. Sure, you'd have to hold it against the wall while standing on the ladder, but since you're butting each against the ceiling, not all that difficult.
Awesome! I love the bench vise and bench sander....awesome!
Art Wayne Thanks! I have a video on both of those if you search my channel :)
Thanks watched them today!
painfull to run into, but clever that you can easily lengthen the shelves
Very nice. I loved the "hologram Jay".
Bill Hantzopoulos lol. Just put it there to see if anyone would notice.
Awesome Idea Jay! Simple is best.
Brilliant! That's all that needs to be said...
Best shelves on diy youtube
great idea! I don't know how many screws you put in each vertical 2x4 but they are carrying all the weight. I always put a horizontal 2x4 under the vertical boards to take some of the pressure off the screws.
Russ Veinot but isn't the bottom 2x4 held on by screws as well? So basically it's just like adding more screws to the vertical 2x4s, right?
Jay Bates That's the way I see it too. Again, not a problem. Too many screws for failure, even for a fully loaded rack. If this was a problem, I would go right to the ground with the verticals.
Have you done a vid about your belt sander table
Good Idea Jay I'm about to totally re due my shop.I might just use this Idea.
Backyard Woodworking May the force be with you young Jedi.