Are You Happy With The New Look Defence In Toronto? w/ Chris Johnston | SDP
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake are joined by Chris Johnston to discuss the Toronto Maple Leafs new look defence.
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OEL will be good for the first 2-3 years of that deal. Ship him later will work.
It'll do for a start. I think if we're going to make the Cup, it'll be a flash in the pan thing; this year or never, because of how Berube helped St. Louis won it; then watched as St. Louis collapsed after the captain Petrangelo left for Vegas (where he won another one last year).
The key is that Berube understands where the work needs to be done if you want to go deep in the playoffs: defensively and in net, as he showed with the first moves St. Louis made after he got onboard, bringing Binnington up from the minors and getting their defensive game to be near-flawless.
NO MORE getting show horses at the front end at the expense of the back end; Toronto has far more than enough (likely too many).
Every cup team has a #1 defence guy and unfortunately this is just yet another year where they don't have that. Tanev's contract is going to be an anchor sooner than you think
very true. and he is still the best defensemen on the team which tells you how average the others are.
Rielly is sick
Last time i checked the Leaf's have 6 defensemen on their squad. The same amount as every cup winning team... PLAY ON!!!!!!! 😏
Not exactly, I’m assuming by number 1 defencemen you’re basically referring to elite defencemen who are roughly top 10 defenders in the league. Look at Florida, are you telling me Montour is an elite top 10 defenceman? They had basically an entire D-core of top 4 defenders, that’s how they won the cup. I’d say the leafs defence this upcoming year is similar, but not as good, as Florida’s from last season.
@@seanweatherson534 This key aquisition is a game changer for the Leaf's blue line. It means finally they have defense to match their offense! We will be chanting D-Core next year not Core 4. On the way to a Cup emergence! Go Leaf's Go! :)
Chris Johnston is great
Years ago toronto had a good defence and, as usual, were on the cusp of ‘winning the big one’. They had a stay at home defenceman who took care of business in front of the net. Apparently he wasn’t flashy enough for Leafs brass and they let him walk that summer. Bob Rouse went on to win his Stanley Cup with Detroit. Detroit finally had a defenceman who took care of business. I always rued the day Rouse left, cuz when he was here he made it possible for the other defence do what they did best.
I see Tanev as the Leafs’ new takin’ care of business defenceman - their new Bob Rouse!
Looking forward to next season for sure now.
What about Larry Murphy who was booed out of Toronto and traded for nothing to Detroit?
@@dcz2899 yup… the list is endless - Kessel apparently didn’t try hard enough - and won his cup excelling for another team. Leafs insist on drafting small(er) exceptionally skilled players, cuz, you know, they’re skilled - then media and fans complain that they need more grit. Player takes it heart and underperforms as they try to find ‘grit’. If they want grit then draft grit - to compliment their skilled players. But don’t ask the grits to score 100 points or the skilled to become a hitting machine. That’s not how teams are built - not winning teams anyway!
Jani Hakanpää walks into the Leafs lineup as one of, if not the best defenseman they have. Obsessing over injury riddled puck movers who can't move bodies, block shots, or clear zones safely has been a sore spot on the Leafs for 6 years.
You need players to shut down top lines on the rush and the cycle. Their possession and keep away strategy breaks down under any heavy fore check.
OK there are a lot of options right now on D, assuming they gel for the most part and not suffer too many injuries; this core would be the quite sound going into the playoffs without even having to make a trade deadline upgrade.
hey... capfriendly is down but sdpn crew is on the special thank you section.
if Tanev not play top pair defense, would help to acquire top pair defenseman?
To answer the question no I’m not because In the grand scheme of things nothing upfront or in the front office has changed so it’s gonna be more of the same until it does even then there are no guarantee’s.
nope because the leafs are always getting players at the end/last phase of their careers.
and guys that never have won
@@donniedoesdishesdonna get off the internet get a job
Not true, the Leafs also get players that leave the team and win Stanley Cups.
@@donniedoesdishesoel didn’t win?
@@Tyekiller115 yep he was the whole reason florida won
Why do these leafs always love these Swedish offensive defensive men so much. They never pan out
Tanev on the downslop... yeah
OEL is really not very good. I know he won the cup this year, but it was not because of him. That was pretty much all Forsling and Montour on the backend.
Tanev is a good player but he’s so old. A long term contract for him seems insane especially given he seems to gets injured quite a bit.
OEL is great for the money. Only reason people see him as bad is that he was payed 8m two years ago.
I will be happy with Leafs defense, if Liljegren can show more confidence and grit this year. He needs to be a second pair player.
I don't think anyone can argue in good faith that it's not an objective improvement over what they had last year. Tanev alone fills a hole in their defense that has existed for like a DECADE now.
But what the contracts tell me is that they're REALLY banking on their next two years being "the one," because the ENDS of those contracts are clearly gonna be a serious anchor if the Leafs haven't made serious strides towards a cup by then.
justin holl did exactly what tanev does but cheaper
@@donniedoesdishes and WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse
@@peacebringer8 3 yrs younger , holl help toronto make the playoffs , but tanev couldnt help calgary even with make the playoffs with markstrom in net
@@donniedoesdishes Toronto hasn't missed the Playoffs with or without Holl though, that is not a difference maker. Tanev was insanely important for Dallas last season to both make the playoffs as well as have a pretty deep run. He got injured in the end and the team lost to the Oilers. But whenever he was in the ice, McKinnon, for example, had 0 points throughout the playoffs against him.
@@peacebringer8 oettinger bailed him out and the only reason he looked good against the avs was because their top scorer decided to choose drugs over winning dont twist it , dallas was already in the playoffs before tanev got there , tanev didnt help calgary at all
could McCabe play top pair defense with Reilly?
Nothing is going to change..the problem wasnt defense in the playoffs..it was the group cant score worth a sh!t when it matters
Defenseman are part of the offense too...
This year is a mini rebuild . Defense is rebuilding, so is goaltending. Still need a centre and winger. a cup contender with this many needs, nope small rebuild.
A rebuild implies ramping up to get better. They added a 32, 33, and 34 year old defensemen all to multi-year deals. This year is the best this defense is going to be which tells us they are planning to contend... This mediocre roster says otherwise.
Hakka will be ready second half of the season...big addition on the right.. buckle up
Tanev isn't a big hitter. He's a second pair guy. He was the fourth guy in Calgary and Dallas.
I Like OEL and he played first pair minutes for the first 20-30 games for Florida.
He's the only guy they have who has ever been a legitimate first pair defenseman.
Haakinpaa can't play anymore.
How was gio at 34 just saying
Benoit!
Tanev will barely play 50% of the season
He's played over 50% of the games in every season since he broke into the league as a full-time player (2012-13)
I like it. Looking forward to it. Just want Marner and Tavares gone
No because morgan reilly is still there 😊
It doesn't matter!
youre right it wont help
Kleinberg?
It was a one year deal and I don’t think they’re too keen on bringing him back
How about sending Marner and Liljegren to Florida for Ekblad, Luostarinen, and Verhaeghe?
nope
Leafs will do same thing they did with hyman..let marner walk and he will go be absolutely fantastic or even win a cup somewhere else...the player that needs to go is jt...
Tanev cannot sustain 20 minutes a ngiht 82 games a year. OEL is not a top 4 D man that can handle 82 games either. With minimal input from their bottom 6 in crunch time, and their defensive depth questionable....goaltending a huge question mark....how far can they go? Not far.
truth.
old, injury prone, and no depth.
2 injuries and this team is headed for the basement
TML should have gone after Roy or Pesce who can actually play 1st pair minutes.
This team as is a guaranteed 1st round playoff exit!
It’s the right direction to have better Defense, but it’s not enough. You still have overpaid soft forwards taking up too much of your cap Shanahan Dubas destroyed our chances. We need to move 2 of the core 4.
Still one of the worse defensive group of all playoff bound teams. Another year they don't have a single top pairing defensemen. Last year OEL had 32 pts in the regular season and 6 pts on the playoffs... what resurgence?
Nyes...
It got from bad to meh...
Overpaid and will underperform 😂
Its a terrible defence core
if they EVER get past a 2nd round in the playoffs then we'll talk - disgruntled Leafs fan
at this point honestly they have to make the SCF or it is all pointless.
@@Dratchev241 exactly
the OEL signing is really bad, not quite as bad as Korpisalo but it has the same problem...too much money and too much term for a guy who should be playing lower in the lineup.
No one knows if they are good deals or not until a number of games are played.
@@johnsummerhill8323 if you don't know anything that's true but we know OEL is already a 3rd pair guy and he's 33 with low point production
@@ThePalisky Wait until around the end of November before you decide whether he can still play or not.
@@johnsummerhill8323 I don't have to because that's not how you evaluate deals. It's a 4 year term. He wasn't a $3.5 million player this past year, there is no reason to expect him to miraculously become one this year and stay that way for 3 years after especially at his age.
@@ThePalisky Let me know where you bought your crystal ball. I am sure every GM in the league would like to have one.
Team still sucks
So do your Habs. In fact, the Habs are worse.
@@johnsummerhill8323 he is like me a florida fan and the last time the leafs and habs played when it counted , the playoffs we all know how that ended , leafs moto first round or bust
@@donniedoesdishes Sure Donna . Back to your dishes.
They don’t suck, they’re just not good enough to win a Cup.
@@Rain.34.89 No Canadian team wins the Cup.
Adam's laugh is cringeworthy.