I live in Boston. I'd love to wear a Leafs jersey to a bar to watch the draft with you guys. I mean it was our trades with the Leafs that got us the cup in 2011. We love the Leafs!!!
I just wanted to comment on the off chance anyone reading this does podcasts, I always appreciate when the hosts give context like "For anyone who doesn't know, why does this matter" because I have the memory of a goldfish
Whoah whoah whoah, hang on, buddy 😂 this is DEFINITELY a misrepresentation of the story! Toronto and Florida called him with offers, but his agent had good info that the Habs were also about to extend an offer, so they decided to wait a few days before responding. As much as I love Xhekaj and the Habs, I'm positive that he would have happily accepted an offer from just about ANY NHL team at that point-- and nobody would blame him for having done so! Lol I don't mean to crap on a feel good story, but there's just no way in hell that an undrafted 25yo would be turning down offers from NHL teams unless he had another offer waiting for him. Frankly, if I was his mother, and after giving up 20 years' worth of time, energy, and money to support my kid's dreams just for him to CHOOSE working at Costco? 😂 I'd lose my ever-loving mind!!!
Steve you managed to hold that glare for 30 seconds before laughing. Let’s see if you can eventually get through Adam’s whole intro by the end of the season… Adam that’s a challenge to you too
Regarding the playoff lineup for the Leafs, Robertson was on the fourth line once if not twice. When Nylander came back in Game 4 Robertson was dropped down to play with Kampf and Reaves, while previously (and in the games afterwards) he was with Holmberg and Jarnkrok. IMO Keefe is an idiot for taking Robertson out and breaking up Dewar-Kampf-Jarnkrok which had been an effective shutdown line. Robertson should've remained on the third line for Game 7, just swapping Holmberg for Matthews in the middle and kicking Gregor back to the press box.
1:17:03 its just a money thing. the cost to play basketball has not really increased in 20 years. the cost to play hockey has increased a few thousand percent if not more. You need a pair of shoes and a ball which everyone has to play most sports. you need a refrigerated field, that cost a ridiculous amount now, a whole bunch of equipment, fees, the cost is out of control now to play hockey. Most minor hockey associations bankrupt town now.
I know this is mostly a Leafs channel, but I wish they talked about the Hurricanes and other teams more. I know I'm not the only one who fell in love with Dangle on his coverage across the NHL I feel like the Seth Jarvis signing is worth talking about because of the way they dodged the salary cap with a significant amount of money. I think it's precedent setting
I was in Cape Cod, Massachusetts the summer of 2011 after the finals. As a Canucks fan wearing a nucks hat I was never prodded beyond "hey we do alot of winning here". I also found the shirts "The Sedin Sisters Two Girls No Cup" pretty funny even though I hated it lol.
Brookline is the most gentrified area of Greater Boston. People from Boston and Peabody (and the rest of the north shore) would be pissed off. Everyone else gets it, and just accepts it. Massholes are a vibe of THE PEOPLE. The city is just cool.
What if, and hear me out, Robertson doesn't think the Leafs can win, and doesn't like how it's being managed and would rather be anywhere else. I know I wouldn't want anything to do with the organization after seeing the power struggles going on.
The NHL is smaller because a sport played on a sheet of ice isn't as relatable to a population that never sees snow or ice. Considering that, the NHL is growing well.
that sens depth chart is missing Nick Cousins too who probably slots in in place of Mcewen no the fourth line. I don't think Kulemin is making the team, I think he is there as injury insurance and/or to do him a favour to let him showcase for other teams (who of course can sign him since he is just on a PTO) and because his kid is playing hockey in Ontario this year.
In America the #1 show every night for 6 months in local markets is..... the local MLB team. I would imagine it's that with hockey in Canada but the NBA is not doing that well at the local level. Playoffs numbers have basically gone down every year since 1998 too. They can easily be passed by NHL if NHL got their stuff together.
Robertson is in the right imo. He doesn't owe the Leafs ANYTHING. It's not like they drafted him as a favor to him. If he believes he can have a better career and be treated better elsewhere, he's not wrong to say "I want to work somewhere else". And for all the talk of "we should treat athletes like real people" that Jesse, Adam and Steve preach, it's pretty hypocritical to drag a guy for saying he wants to some do something your average joe does a handful of times over the course of their professional career.
14% is totally normal for a goal scorer. You also have to factor in that shooters get in grooves, it is hard to get in a groove when you're not playing consistently. Let's also remember he got those 14 goals in 56 games on an ATOI of 11 minutes.
I've heard that McDavids parents and Matthew's parents have become pretty good friends, it makes sense they probably have alot in common raising two of the best players this generation. Makes sense the best player and the best goal scorer are friends off the ice, cause who else can you relate to. Matthew's and McDavid makes perfect sense for off season training buddies. I'd love to see them play together but will probably never happen. Leaf v. Oilers... Canada v. USA
Steve … Knies is an RFA this summer. Under no circumstance do you put Knies on line 1 until his extension is signed. You put Knies on line 3 with Tavares and Jarnkrok. So, you start the season like this: Robertson Matthews Marner McMann Domi Nylander Knies Tavares Jarnkrok Dewer Kampf Reaves This way you max Robertson’s trade value and send him to the Utah sister wives for Tej Iginla or to a team with someone similar. Then once Knies is extended, and Robertson has been traded then you put Knies with Matthews and Marner after the deadline and in the playoffs.
As a Bostonian, Brookline is not part of Boston. Brookline peeps make sure you know that. It's a city of its own next to Boston. If you want an extremely Boston area of Boston, Southie. Or, you could go to Charlestown.
A lot of Robertson’s points came when he was with domi and/or holmberg… I could see him on a wicked line of Robertson Domi Marner!!! JT should be our 3C.
How are you guys going to sit here and talk about Robertson like he’s got this great opportunity for top 6 minutes and then follow it up immediately with “well he didn’t really blow the doors off”. You guys also completely blow past the possibility that the org doesn’t value him or want to give him the same contract that Nick thinks he’s worth. The team could have way more to do with this than you guys are making it out to be
You knew here 😅....they rarely can be objective and dip in n out of being hypocrites.....enjoy the pod but facts are facts. Look at how upset they get when they get criticised it's hilarious
Nicks issue is with his age he is one of the few players who can be sent down to the minors. It is a benefit to the leaf's and Pay was 75,000 in the minors. Raise his minor pay to 300,000. He really needs high minutes for 30 games in the AHL. It is also possible his stats may go down or gets hurt again lowering his value. He may not want to risk that hoping to go and get more 2nd or 3rd line minutes on a team that needs a shooter on a 2 or 3 year deal. There is very little chance here this year.
If you think all 6 defenceman will be healthy after the 10th game into the season you’re kidding yourself. Don’t worry about having 7 guys that can play. Or you’ll end up with Timmons playing
Could the Robertson situation be an other example of the culture that developed in the Leafs locker room ? All of them leaders squeezed the Leafs for every last cent possible, why wouldn’t Robertson try everything in his power to better his situation, drama, asking for trades, (etc.), might just be for show or to try get a better deal like Nylander did a few years ago (obviously not at the same scale). Bad timing for him, because Toronto has 3-4 guys that could replace him relatively easily, but hey it’s worth a try i guess. Kent Johnson 2.0 should bide his time.
I think Robertson has a problem with new coach Berube. His wanting out all started when Leafs announced him. Maybe they met and there's a problem there. Otherwise you guys are right in that anyone without some sort of problem would want to stay here and play a lot.
SDPN having regular uploads again makes life completed
100%
Start digging that hole
Quite the opposite for me as I just became a hockey fan this year, Im tired of watching old episodes daily anymore
facts
@@invader647 What are you talking about?? You are tired of watching old episodes daily? So new things don’t excite you? Im so confused
arber xhekaj is an undrafted defenseman costco employee
Man of the people
Just SDPN forgetting facts about Montreal again.... 🙄 /s
Jeff Marek is a free agent, when can we expect a deal to sdpn?!?
Adam's reassuring hug to Steve @ 1:02:50 is unreasonably cute.
The duality of best friends was that moment and the look Adam gave Steve at 1:21:56
@@zachdavies7816I screenshotted this look so I can use it 😂
As a Nick, this episode was wild.
Let’s go! Perfect time for the drive home. I listen, don’t watch
My SDP cup runneth over
I love when Steve asks if theres anymore leafs stuff they could squeez in, LOL
The hat Steve is talking about is called a bunnet
54:22 Steve “ DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GONNA BOOO YOU YA BUT YOU SIGN WITH THE LEAFS THEY WILL CHEER FOR YOU” 😂😂😂
4 episodes in 4 days is very exciting
9:08 the Marshal Rifaithful
JESSE WITH THE BOSTON GEOGRAPHY LESSON LETS GOOOO
Finally, a comprehensive conversation on Nick Robertson: The Leafs need a scoring punch, scoring issues in the playoffs
I live in Boston. I'd love to wear a Leafs jersey to a bar to watch the draft with you guys.
I mean it was our trades with the Leafs that got us the cup in 2011. We love the Leafs!!!
As a leaf fan I appreciate this dig.
Different than the overused repetitive stuff
Can you guys please become VGK fans and talk about them all the time, that would be freaking sweet!
I just wanted to comment on the off chance anyone reading this does podcasts, I always appreciate when the hosts give context like "For anyone who doesn't know, why does this matter" because I have the memory of a goldfish
49:53 I was today years old when I learned what Nick Robertson’s birthday is 😅
Yessir 💪 bravo les gars ! Super podcast comme toujours. Greets from Montreal
Ps: I love to hate Toronto but I do love you!
William Nylander is a perfect example… Nylander skates amazing and it looks like he’s not even trying… Marner is another amazing example as well
Especially in the playoffs, they really make it look like they arn't even trying there
So you're saying Leafs are amazing.
Barkov comes to mind. Looks almost lazy when he skates but is faster than most
Great channel
The sheriff arber xhekaj is the best undrafted story turned down the leafs while working at costco because he wanted to play for the habs ❤
Whoah whoah whoah, hang on, buddy 😂 this is DEFINITELY a misrepresentation of the story! Toronto and Florida called him with offers, but his agent had good info that the Habs were also about to extend an offer, so they decided to wait a few days before responding. As much as I love Xhekaj and the Habs, I'm positive that he would have happily accepted an offer from just about ANY NHL team at that point-- and nobody would blame him for having done so! Lol I don't mean to crap on a feel good story, but there's just no way in hell that an undrafted 25yo would be turning down offers from NHL teams unless he had another offer waiting for him. Frankly, if I was his mother, and after giving up 20 years' worth of time, energy, and money to support my kid's dreams just for him to CHOOSE working at Costco? 😂 I'd lose my ever-loving mind!!!
What a show
57:40 Mitch marner training with Mackinnon
Steve you managed to hold that glare for 30 seconds before laughing. Let’s see if you can eventually get through Adam’s whole intro by the end of the season… Adam that’s a challenge to you too
As a boston fan. I would be there. Please bring back hat picks and dang its.
I remember Burakovsky’s first time at the Avs Captains skate. MacKinnon was throwing stick and screaming at him in less than 5 minutes.
0:07 bro got the ptsd stare 😭
Chickpea pasta being better than regular cheap bagged pasta is the hill I will die on
Regarding the playoff lineup for the Leafs, Robertson was on the fourth line once if not twice. When Nylander came back in Game 4 Robertson was dropped down to play with Kampf and Reaves, while previously (and in the games afterwards) he was with Holmberg and Jarnkrok. IMO Keefe is an idiot for taking Robertson out and breaking up Dewar-Kampf-Jarnkrok which had been an effective shutdown line. Robertson should've remained on the third line for Game 7, just swapping Holmberg for Matthews in the middle and kicking Gregor back to the press box.
1:17:03 its just a money thing. the cost to play basketball has not really increased in 20 years. the cost to play hockey has increased a few thousand percent if not more. You need a pair of shoes and a ball which everyone has to play most sports. you need a refrigerated field, that cost a ridiculous amount now, a whole bunch of equipment, fees, the cost is out of control now to play hockey. Most minor hockey associations bankrupt town now.
They don't understand that. I have told adam this before and he asked me why that is like somehow it is gary bettman's fault lol.
You should do some live puckdoku
There was a number of Leafs that showed up out of shape last year.
I know this is mostly a Leafs channel, but I wish they talked about the Hurricanes and other teams more. I know I'm not the only one who fell in love with Dangle on his coverage across the NHL
I feel like the Seth Jarvis signing is worth talking about because of the way they dodged the salary cap with a significant amount of money. I think it's precedent setting
1:28:44 That ones a DUH! moment. The first team I thought hearing the question is "Boston's got to be top 3" they're the big bad Bruins not the cubs.
I was in Cape Cod, Massachusetts the summer of 2011 after the finals. As a Canucks fan wearing a nucks hat I was never prodded beyond "hey we do alot of winning here". I also found the shirts "The Sedin Sisters Two Girls No Cup" pretty funny even though I hated it lol.
I was in vancouver the summer after the finals and have a pic in my Bruins jersey right in front of the nucks arena😂
The Nick Robertson segment was such an angry Boomer moment lol Steve sounded like a Sid Seixeiro parody
I live in MA and I would love a local event... in an non-leafs jersey
Nathan is recruiting Mitch and sid
& McDavid was recruiting Matthews. Fire sale in leafs land!
@@kwaty maybe Matthew’s was recruiting mcdavid. Who’s contract is expiring soon ? That’s right
Knies - Matthews - Domi
McMann - Tavares - W.Nylander
A.Nylander - Kampf - Marner
Jarnkrok - Dewar - Reaves/Holmberg/Robertson
Brookline is where Brady and Kraft lived…yeah, pretty nice area 😂
Springfield is the armpit of Massachusetts, it’s more western and closer to Albany, New York. Boston is wonderful
Fuller
the Marchand t-shirt should be MarchGrand
Brookline is the most gentrified area of Greater Boston.
People from Boston and Peabody (and the rest of the north shore) would be pissed off. Everyone else gets it, and just accepts it.
Massholes are a vibe of THE PEOPLE. The city is just cool.
Most Boston place you can find isn't a place you wanna go guys 😂
A Montreal 2nd round pick party in Boston would be hilarious and I would be there sirs ill finally be back home by then hopefully 🤦♂️
What happens to the Montreal second round draft pick party if they flip the pick in a trade??
What if, and hear me out, Robertson doesn't think the Leafs can win, and doesn't like how it's being managed and would rather be anywhere else. I know I wouldn't want anything to do with the organization after seeing the power struggles going on.
Conan O'Brien is from Brookline, Massachusetts. That is all.
Strange.... I was watching conan and then saw this. Then this comment. Sorry to bug I'm just tripping
The NHL is smaller because a sport played on a sheet of ice isn't as relatable to a population that never sees snow or ice. Considering that, the NHL is growing well.
Chris Tanev, RIT legend
that sens depth chart is missing Nick Cousins too who probably slots in in place of Mcewen no the fourth line. I don't think Kulemin is making the team, I think he is there as injury insurance and/or to do him a favour to let him showcase for other teams (who of course can sign him since he is just on a PTO) and because his kid is playing hockey in Ontario this year.
Krug was an undrafted NCAA signing by Boston you're welcome 👍
I used to live in MASS and Steve is 100% right. People there hate it if you call their little town Boston.
In America the #1 show every night for 6 months in local markets is..... the local MLB team. I would imagine it's that with hockey in Canada but the NBA is not doing that well at the local level. Playoffs numbers have basically gone down every year since 1998 too. They can easily be passed by NHL if NHL got their stuff together.
Robertson is in the right imo. He doesn't owe the Leafs ANYTHING. It's not like they drafted him as a favor to him. If he believes he can have a better career and be treated better elsewhere, he's not wrong to say "I want to work somewhere else".
And for all the talk of "we should treat athletes like real people" that Jesse, Adam and Steve preach, it's pretty hypocritical to drag a guy for saying he wants to some do something your average joe does a handful of times over the course of their professional career.
I think Seattle would be a great place for him
@@WalkableBulb905 I'd say Utah, Hawks or Sharks.
The Leafs have spent a good chunk of change paying Nick Robertson to rehab.
14% is totally normal for a goal scorer. You also have to factor in that shooters get in grooves, it is hard to get in a groove when you're not playing consistently. Let's also remember he got those 14 goals in 56 games on an ATOI of 11 minutes.
Oh no! Adam unleashed tĥe "shut up I'm talking arm" early.
It might be an Adam Wilde show today.
So far, Steve is hanging in.
Robertson for kaliyev in LA? I’d imagine both franchises would at least entertain that. Kaliyev expressed disappointment with LA.
I've heard that McDavids parents and Matthew's parents have become pretty good friends, it makes sense they probably have alot in common raising two of the best players this generation. Makes sense the best player and the best goal scorer are friends off the ice, cause who else can you relate to. Matthew's and McDavid makes perfect sense for off season training buddies. I'd love to see them play together but will probably never happen. Leaf v. Oilers... Canada v. USA
You can watch Team North America footage. They were in a line together with Mark Scheifele
Early gang rise up!
Steve … Knies is an RFA this summer. Under no circumstance do you put Knies on line 1 until his extension is signed. You put Knies on line 3 with Tavares and Jarnkrok. So, you start the season like this:
Robertson Matthews Marner
McMann Domi Nylander
Knies Tavares Jarnkrok
Dewer Kampf Reaves
This way you max Robertson’s trade value and send him to the Utah sister wives for Tej Iginla or to a team with someone similar. Then once Knies is extended, and Robertson has been traded then you put Knies with Matthews and Marner after the deadline and in the playoffs.
What about Connor and just “M” (the Roman numeral) as it means 1000. Works for McKinnon and Marchand too lol
Does Mitch think training with Mackinnon going to make him better?! I doubt it
How big is Adam’s head? Like physical circumference? Not throwing shade, just curious Boston fan. ❤
I'm with Steve in thinking Brookline was supposed to be Brooklyn. Just given Jesse's track record of mispronouncing things.
What you guys have to do is try and get comfy coozy with the Canadiens GM and scouting staff so you guys get to announce the pick 🤔🤭
As a Bostonian, Brookline is not part of Boston. Brookline peeps make sure you know that. It's a city of its own next to Boston. If you want an extremely Boston area of Boston, Southie. Or, you could go to Charlestown.
1:24:50
MAR-GRAND (1 Grand Marchand?)
|V1cKinnon
Mc1000
1Kooch
When McDavid reaches 1100 points you can just do MC which is 1100 in Roman Numerals.
The Toronto Bourgeoisie
Jesse confusing Dead Poets Society with Good Will Hunting is so on brand for a sports podcast.
A lot of Robertson’s points came when he was with domi and/or holmberg… I could see him on a wicked line of Robertson Domi Marner!!!
JT should be our 3C.
Judd has domi too
Mcdavid's shirt if and or when he hits two thousand can be McDouble - cuz he doubled 1000.
Lohrei was drafted into as well as an overager
How are you guys going to sit here and talk about Robertson like he’s got this great opportunity for top 6 minutes and then follow it up immediately with “well he didn’t really blow the doors off”. You guys also completely blow past the possibility that the org doesn’t value him or want to give him the same contract that Nick thinks he’s worth. The team could have way more to do with this than you guys are making it out to be
You knew here 😅....they rarely can be objective and dip in n out of being hypocrites.....enjoy the pod but facts are facts. Look at how upset they get when they get criticised it's hilarious
I wonder what you guys think about a Robertson for Kaliev swap? :)
Oh Woah, i just learned 50:30 Nick Robertson was born literally the day of 9/11. Not exactly a fun fact but a fact none the less 😅
Nathan MacKinnen - 1MacK
Dorchester or Charlestown
I feel like the sabres could use Robertson. Could be a good trade for both teams. That is if Robertson would ever agree to go to buffalo.
Love how Leaf fans overvalue Hakanpää so much. 7th D at best
You haven’t seen how bad our D can be…
@@sdpn that’s fair
Nicks issue is with his age he is one of the few players who can be sent down to the minors. It is a benefit to the leaf's and Pay was 75,000 in the minors. Raise his minor pay to 300,000. He really needs high minutes for 30 games in the AHL.
It is also possible his stats may go down or gets hurt again lowering his value. He may not want to risk that hoping to go and get more 2nd or 3rd line minutes on a team that needs a shooter on a 2 or 3 year deal. There is very little chance here this year.
Connor 1k-vid. Correct answer
Every player has the potential to hit 1000 career points this year 🤔
(except those already over 1000)
Adam has to repaint the wall behind him! He's destroying your fab studio!
It's getting worse!
@rodchallis8031 , I think the boys played some ball hockey in there this summer! There was only 1 spot chipped near Adam last season.
this is how i learned that Nick Robertson was born on 9/11
$30k Steve, $15,970,000 :)
I’m just waiting for Robertson to leave and then become an amazing player like a lot of former leafs 💀
If you think all 6 defenceman will be healthy after the 10th game into the season you’re kidding yourself. Don’t worry about having 7 guys that can play. Or you’ll end up with Timmons playing
Could the Robertson situation be an other example of the culture that developed in the Leafs locker room ? All of them leaders squeezed the Leafs for every last cent possible, why wouldn’t Robertson try everything in his power to better his situation, drama, asking for trades, (etc.), might just be for show or to try get a better deal like Nylander did a few years ago (obviously not at the same scale).
Bad timing for him, because Toronto has 3-4 guys that could replace him relatively easily, but hey it’s worth a try i guess. Kent Johnson 2.0 should bide his time.
I think Robertson has a problem with new coach Berube. His wanting out all started when Leafs announced him. Maybe they met and there's a problem there. Otherwise you guys are right in that anyone without some sort of problem would want to stay here and play a lot.
my money goes to Nick comparing himself to his brother.
Timmy lily at 3mil is a terrible deal for the Leafs
Lmao not to be that guy but no bar in Boston is giving you there venue for that lmao
Nicky Bobby should be pulling an Askarov right now
Come on Steve MCD1K was right there for McDavid