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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2017
  • An unfortunate incident the cause of which at present remains a mystery. Several people have said they knew the crane driver who been doing his job with no problems for a long time.The tipping is seen to occur as soon as the crane is rotated.The boat owner is wearing the red shirt. Significant damage has since been reported to the boats propellers and drive shaft. This is a condensed version of the wider coverage of this event as seen in Part 2 of the video WATCHET SUMMERTIME EVENTS WEDNESDAY 23 AUGUST 2017. The boat arriving at the Marina can be seen in Part 1 of that video series.

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  • @gregoryp2859
    @gregoryp2859 4 года назад +56

    The level of incompetence shown here is absolutely stunning.

    • @mactcampbell
      @mactcampbell 4 года назад +5

      you got that right. I doubt that they had the load weight or the maximum load radius before starting. The crane was lifting over the side...weaker quadrant. And the by standers don't even mention the bystanders. They could have been all wiped out.

    • @andrewcooke5392
      @andrewcooke5392 4 года назад +1

      @@mactcampbell Yeah, the spectators seemed to be standing in line with the jib of the crane whilst it was teetering, if it had gone I think a few would possibly have been crushed.

    • @otto16121970
      @otto16121970 4 года назад +1

      Gregory P How many boats did you lift into the water then?

    • @mactcampbell
      @mactcampbell 4 года назад +5

      @@otto16121970 It doesn't matter. The basics of crane operation remains the same. Part of doing a lift is planning the lift which includes determining load weight, crane's capacity at load radius over the side.

    • @singlefin7768
      @singlefin7768 4 года назад

      mactcampbell you’re better off starting over the side than ending upon the side when you put it in the water

  • @pogojava
    @pogojava 4 года назад +121

    I’m a certified crane operator so I’ll add my two cents. this is a classic case of overload. I’m sure no one checked the load chart and I’m sure no one knew the weight of the pick. Lots of guessing and this is the results

    • @scdevon
      @scdevon 4 года назад +5

      Thanks for the input. I knew the outcome of the video ahead of time, but that crane looked too small for a boat built that heavily even to an amateur eye.

    • @pogojava
      @pogojava 4 года назад +13

      @@scdevon actually the crane might have been adequate for the lift but the capacity changes with the angle of the boom to the crane centerline. So if he picks too far out he has reduced the capacity of the crane to make the lift. So if that’s a 100 ton crane but his pick is 50’ from the centerline his actual capacity might only be 35 tons and he’s also over the side of the tracks which might also have a limiting factor.

    • @earlborchardt4358
      @earlborchardt4358 4 года назад +7

      They put load charts in cranes for a reason. I'll wager that the operator didn't know the weight of the pick, which does not matter, because he more than likely didn't read the load chart any way. Who was in charge here? Anybody???

    • @SteveTheFazeman
      @SteveTheFazeman 4 года назад +3

      @@pogojava,
      Not knowing the boat weight and centerline details, it was the placement of the side of his tracks you mentioned that first caught my attention.

    • @pogojava
      @pogojava 4 года назад +5

      @@SteveTheFazeman actually depending on the crane model some have capacity 360 around the crane. But that being said usually the best stability is parallel with the tracks over the front idlers

  • @peterjackhandy
    @peterjackhandy 4 года назад +47

    The description says it all, really - They'd been doing this for years without incident & became complacent.
    Allowing people to stand in harm's way & operating the crane beyond its capacity:
    As to then working under the load After the crane had already toppled once?...

  • @juzzlookin
    @juzzlookin 4 года назад +50

    I can't believe all those idiots standing under the line of the cranes boom, or the fact that the operators didn't move people out of harms way first.

    • @Inpreesme
      @Inpreesme 4 года назад +2

      juzzlookin If you didn’t have those idiots you wouldn’t have this video

    • @57Jimmy
      @57Jimmy 4 года назад +1

      I think you just nailed the cause of this mishap! As soon as I saw the crane, boat, truck and the reach (without outriggers) of the crane, physics lesson was about to follow!

    • @billgordon7583
      @billgordon7583 3 года назад

      Proud owners are watching with their cells. What they weren't told is that the three stooges had been re-incarnated and hired for the task of plopping Sloopy Sally into the briny ocean tossed

  • @grumpyoldman336
    @grumpyoldman336 4 года назад +17

    all this needed was the Benny Hill theme playing along with it.. unbelieveable

    • @Mhdogman
      @Mhdogman 3 года назад

      Perfect. I so laughed.

  • @rickgillis1613
    @rickgillis1613 4 года назад +2

    Conversation one night in a pub --
    'I gotta get me boat lifted off a truck into the water'
    "Well me son, I gots a crane"
    'If you can do it, I'll hire ya'
    "How much does she weigh ?"
    'Oh about 20 tons, what's yer crane able ta lift ? '
    "oh I'd say ...about 20 tons"
    ' ahh well then, we should be good to go'
    -- and that was all the professionalism needed

  • @coppydoubleloppkliem4146
    @coppydoubleloppkliem4146 4 года назад +15

    Yeah when a crane and it's load is about to fall the wise thing to do is stay near and act oblivious to the situation.

    • @gregmann6120
      @gregmann6120 4 года назад

      What crane?...what are you on about?...ere why is that boat shaking around in the air like that?...

  • @ADMIRALSCORNER
    @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад +13

    I was able to video another boat lift at Watchet Marina yesterday with a much larger crane and better security! I will be uploading that today!

  • @creaturelady
    @creaturelady 4 года назад +8

    Leave me alone and don't tell me how to do my job! I've been doing this for years. Oh...Sorry for the damage to your boat. It's his fault!

  • @jamesbarr7320
    @jamesbarr7320 4 года назад +11

    The crane tracks should have been aligned mid position between the lift and the drop position for max capacity and safety margin, they are much longer than their width

    • @riphaven
      @riphaven 3 года назад

      was going to say the same thing.

  • @kennethhowell5291
    @kennethhowell5291 5 лет назад +9

    That little boat is too beautiful, a one and only!

  • @luise.rodriguez536
    @luise.rodriguez536 4 года назад +10

    guys watching dont realize the danger they are in.

  • @titan2182
    @titan2182 7 лет назад +10

    Can't blame the old RB for trying. The crane was simply overloaded at that radius and the driver not smart enough to know his track is lifting. HSE will have a field day on the lack of planning and training.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  7 лет назад

      I do wonder what past experience he had had!

  • @DSC800
    @DSC800 4 года назад +5

    Crane Operator: "note to self, old wooden boats are MUCH heavier than those new fangled fiberglass boats I'm used to."

  • @roscoe9507
    @roscoe9507 4 года назад +10

    Forget all the health and safety, they would have know the Swing load Weight of the crane and the weight of the boat. The crane is obviously man enough to do the lift, however, nowhere near enough counter balance on the crane, for lifting that far out, the crane needed to be closer for a heavier lift . If I was the owner of the boat I would be apocalyptically angry

    • @singlefin7768
      @singlefin7768 4 года назад

      You obviously know zero about cranes

    • @roscoe9507
      @roscoe9507 4 года назад +1

      Single Fin, the further away you lift, your centre of gravity changes, therefore you need a greater counter weight, by lifting closer, you decrease the distance from your centre of gravity, hence why the crane righted itself and lifted the boat with ease once the boat/lift was closer

    • @singlefin7768
      @singlefin7768 4 года назад

      Ross White crane charts are made up of 2 things stability which you are talking about and structure which just randomly adding counterweights means you might as well throw the charts away. And yes in video he has dropped weight luffed back and taken weight bringing the load back in radius of crane

    • @singlefin7768
      @singlefin7768 4 года назад

      And just so you know any crane is man enough to do a lift you just add more parts of line to the hook end of the day if the cranes to small it’s to small but can you please tell me what swing load weight of a crane is ?

    • @roscoe9507
      @roscoe9507 4 года назад +1

      Single Fin when a tracked crane or machine/excavator has its boom across the tracks and not parallel to the tracks, this is swing load weight, lifting side on with a tracked machine/crane actually decreases the surface contact stability, this is why a crane/machine will always lift a heavier load with the boom running with the tracks ( parallel ) to the tracks not across as he is in this video.

  • @markellis796
    @markellis796 4 года назад +3

    in the Uk a lift like this must have a risk assessment in place before lifting, which must include all details of the lift i.e. weight of load/crane capacity/ date of lift / safety precautions used and more importantly the oppointed person and lift supervisor in charge. clearly none of this has taken place here and they were lucky no one was seriously injured or worse.

    • @michaelwarwick9930
      @michaelwarwick9930 Год назад

      Well said, Mark. Most people watching this will think, 'Oh, wow, good that it turned out okay.' The crane company should be jailed. Cranes aren't Tonka toys, folks... Sheesh!
      And did the H&SE prosecute the idiots who 'planned' this lift? I doubt it.

  • @fposmith
    @fposmith 4 года назад +8

    The crane operator needs to be fired ! Never lift a load like that over the side ! Hope that boatyard has insurance.

  • @carlosmurphy4u1
    @carlosmurphy4u1 4 года назад +6

    I've seen a thousand of these cranes tip over on u-tube, the operators really need more training!!! I can lift 20,000 lbs and the boat weighs 25,000 lbs, NO PROBLEM.....

  • @herberttietz6251
    @herberttietz6251 6 лет назад +28

    Looks like they don’t have weight gauges in England and/or load charts. Sounded like it was an old friction clutch crane too , the kind Noah used on the Ark Project. Next time get an Aussie Crane Crew and get the job done right. For starters we don’t let bystanders inside the work zone. Next thing is knock a section of boom out of the pin jib , looked like he had the head height for it. Better still get a crane with the appropriate lifting capacity for the task.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад +4

      I and many others are looking forward to seeing the job done properly next time!

    • @d4c24a
      @d4c24a 6 лет назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/4OOg7vL3rNY/видео.html

    • @strietermarinesurvey1415
      @strietermarinesurvey1415 5 лет назад

      First thing I thought of was telling everyone to get back! That didn't happen.

    • @paulskopic5844
      @paulskopic5844 5 лет назад

      Looks like an inexperienced rigging crew and operator, and it is lucky that apparently they do not have the US equivalent of OSHA or fines would be in order.

    • @davidsanders1991
      @davidsanders1991 5 лет назад +1

      Too many spectators and lookie loos under the boat. The man in charge should be hanged from the yardarm.

  • @jetvette66
    @jetvette66 6 лет назад +49

    "Let's stand....UNDER THE BOOM!!!!"

    • @jeffbryan2591
      @jeffbryan2591 4 года назад +2

      Yes , everyone gather around .

    • @stephens7107
      @stephens7107 4 года назад

      Darwin says, “Its ok.”

    • @reed7562
      @reed7562 3 года назад

      Did somebody say BOOM?

  • @Andy-qo6rq
    @Andy-qo6rq 4 года назад +1

    The tracks of the crane should be facing the lift area ie facing the lorry and slightly to the right between the lorry and the dock edge. The crane is at its maximum lift capacity. See this to many times the marinas have small cranes that was bought second hand or years ago. I’ve only seen one marina that a capable crane for doing the job. It’s all about preparation. Should be been done at high tide as when the crane lowers the boat into the water at so a low gravity takes over and if it falls to fast the cranes brakes could not take the strain.

  • @xolarwind
    @xolarwind 6 лет назад +20

    There's no mystery here, the center of effort moved forward and the crane doesnt have enough counterbalance or foot print to handle the weight. They were lucky and not destroyed that beautiful boat. RUclips is full of cases like this of cranes dropping boats on land or in the water, sometimes upside down. The best way to handle a boat in any decent yard is with a proper Travel Lift

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 6 лет назад +2

      I agree with you but the tidal range is massive there and a travel lift wont reach most of the time.

    • @barryroberts2196
      @barryroberts2196 6 лет назад +2

      I have never seen such a badly organised lift in my life. Did they even have a lift plan. If they did, it's clear that it wasn't worth the paper it was written on or it was completely ignored.
      If the HSE ever get to see this they will have a fit, shocking, simple as that.

  • @tomsawyer247
    @tomsawyer247 4 года назад +4

    The lifting charts on those old cranes were on the seat when it started to lift you were a bit overloaded.

  • @dustin9040
    @dustin9040 4 года назад +7

    no mystery here! exceeded the cranes capacity its starting to go before he started to slew around..... no mystery just basic physics

  • @vynleshmynle7372
    @vynleshmynle7372 4 года назад +9

    That water looks horrible, can’t imagine putting such a beautiful boat in that swamp pit.

    • @southerneruk
      @southerneruk 4 года назад +4

      Its low tide by the looks of it, looks like sloppy mud

    • @vynleshmynle7372
      @vynleshmynle7372 4 года назад

      southerneruk ......another reason not to be lifting the boat into the water

    • @spencerwilton5831
      @spencerwilton5831 4 года назад

      Vynle Shmynle You are aware that in many harbours boats sit on the mud twice a day, every day, when the tide goes out? There is nothing wrong with lowering a boat onto the mud at low tide when that is where it is destined to end up most of the time!

    • @vynleshmynle7372
      @vynleshmynle7372 4 года назад

      Spencer Wilton I wasn’t aware actually, I live on the Great Lakes, thanks for the lesson

  • @randallfrank5682
    @randallfrank5682 4 года назад +6

    Cranes are NOT "driven", they are operated, and in this case not operated well. This was a bad idea from the beginning and either the weight of the boat was not told correctly to the dock company and or the crane is under rated for the lift. The start of the swing was not smooth, it was a little jerky showing how ill thought out the lift was because the crane was trying to lift a load that was too heavy. The boat owner is lucky that the accident (drop) happened where it did because the crane would have had to "boom out" to get the boat into the water thus making the lift even more faulty. The further away from the crane the more the load weight affects the balance of the crane and it's lifting capacity. If the crane had swung the boat out over the water, it would have probably been dropped in the water with the crane falling down on the boat into the water and both would have been sunk.

    • @southerneruk
      @southerneruk 4 года назад

      Very good post, only thing is that its a crawler crane, so it can't "boom out" only telescopic can boom out or in, Crawler cranes only can top down or up, That is the gib being lowered or risen

    • @randallfrank5682
      @randallfrank5682 4 года назад

      @@southerneruk By "boom out" I mean boom down, or lower the boom to a less steep angle so the load is further away from the crane. I have run lots of cranes, hydraulic cranes, draglines, and back hoes (hydraulic excavators).

    • @southerneruk
      @southerneruk 4 года назад

      @@randallfrank5682 ok np just used the wrong terminology, I am a rigger top grade, done the 8 year training, 4 deep sea, 4 on terrestrial (old school)

    • @jameswilson8820
      @jameswilson8820 4 года назад

      Not a bad idea just not implemented correctly

    • @stephensmith3181
      @stephensmith3181 4 года назад

      I operated a 30ton capacity railway steam breakdown crane for years at 16foot radius with outriggers out and cliped to the rail the lifting capacity was 30 tons but at maximum radius of 40 foot the lifting capacity was 10 tons and that was on level track no superelevation which brought the capacity down ballast at the rear was the boiler and water tanks when working free on the rail on with superelevation track and the jib over the high rail if you jibbed in to a certain radius the counterweight of the boiler would cause the crane to topple backwards

  • @madyogi6164
    @madyogi6164 4 года назад +2

    0:50 Boat was already in the air. Why did they pull it any higher? Just few centimeters would be enough to take the truck from beneath....

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      @chopperhehehe 4 года назад

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  • @haier5733
    @haier5733 6 лет назад +22

    Put that crowd on back crane for counter weight

  • @patrickmulholland9332
    @patrickmulholland9332 4 года назад +1

    And they are walking underneath an unsupported boat, held by a crane that just failed, unbelievable.

  • @craigmonteforte1478
    @craigmonteforte1478 4 года назад +1

    What a beautiful Vessel i’m agreeing with the comment from the certified Operator unfortunately many boat owners only speculate the vessels weight ive owned 17 or 18 of them and sadly all most owners have to go on is the manufacturers specs and dont update the records for additional equipment and water and fuel i personally try to get my haulers scale weights whenever possible and /or use a crane with plenty of capacity or more at a cost of course

  • @othernicksweretaken
    @othernicksweretaken 4 года назад +3

    I never have operated a crane, so bear with me for my unitiated questioning if they don't teach those crane and heavy lift crews the fundamentals of Technical Mechanics and its extremly useful method of sections.
    It isn't really Rocket Science setting up the basic equations of momentum and force balances.
    Of course for that you need to know the mass on the hook and roughly its centre of gravity.
    But every ship owner should roughly know its light ship mass; maybe the shipyard could provide the data, or one could deduce it if one knew full load displacement and max. deadweight and bunker capacities.

  • @np939427a
    @np939427a 4 года назад +8

    Spot the mistake? The crane driver had the tracks facing the wrong way?

    • @jameswilson8820
      @jameswilson8820 4 года назад +1

      Nope

    • @jimarcher5255
      @jimarcher5255 4 года назад +4

      Wrong way if his intent was to offload the boat onto the wharf. Right way if his intent was to swing and lower the boat into the water. Too much boat for the crane either way.

    • @sidewaysaction9983
      @sidewaysaction9983 4 года назад

      Wrong if you have no idea on this subject I wouldn't pass comment

  • @jjdwnbyci
    @jjdwnbyci 4 года назад +9

    Best line of video..."this looks like it's gonna be expensive

    • @tomscott1604
      @tomscott1604 4 года назад

      And "at least the crane is on the ground now".😂

  • @stevenflebbe
    @stevenflebbe 4 года назад +1

    There is absolutely no "mystery" to this at all. The boat exceeds the rigged capacity of the crane. A side lift without outriggers is one of the least stable lifts, and this is the result of that instability, combined with the weight of the boat.

  • @janinapalmer8368
    @janinapalmer8368 3 года назад

    So what happened in the end ?
    Why did you zoom right out at the critical time when the crane restored its position?

  • @jameslindley8318
    @jameslindley8318 6 лет назад +8

    If ya NEVER Stand under it !! then itll NEVER drop on ya !!!

  • @m.a.c.8366
    @m.a.c.8366 5 лет назад +2

    the controller of lift failed completely..there is ultimately a single point of responsibilty for failure or success period of a pick', that person has the data, criteria, capacities of equipment... and has the go or no go liability of command...oh and that person failed on this pick' in video...

  • @TristamMayes
    @TristamMayes 4 года назад +1

    From a experienced crane operator this is a very simple accident, the crane operator messed up.

    • @benmac940
      @benmac940 4 года назад

      Or he was given bad information to start with but did everything correct. Either way poorly planned and poorly executed by the looks of it.

  • @Pparker99
    @Pparker99 5 лет назад

    It cracks me up to suggest that the cause is a mystery. The boat weigth caused the crane to tip. What is their to understand.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  5 лет назад

      The mystery was how the experienced crane operator should make such a mistake.

  • @LeonAllanDavis
    @LeonAllanDavis 6 лет назад +1

    Why do you think they named it the "Watch It!" Marina?

  • @karylhogan5758
    @karylhogan5758 4 года назад

    Crane driver myself, and answer given.. thought he appeared to hoist too fast too, adding to problem, plus crane ‘’ square on’’, if he had plant at a diagonal angle , to boat and took load in fast he might had pulled it off, but obviously counter weight on lifting plant too little for job in hand.. double weight if what u think it and set up crane that way,,correct slings too, and do job slowly and safely by experienced people.

  • @jameslindley8318
    @jameslindley8318 6 лет назад +5

    If those Straps slip front to back or back to front it changes all the parameters and centre of gravity and can end up slipping the boat out the end !! . Spreaders Fore n Aft n port n starboard ALWAYS !!

    • @matthew413
      @matthew413 5 лет назад

      Not always! Sometimes!!! But not always!
      Decent rig up! Poor lift plan

  • @handsfree1000
    @handsfree1000 6 лет назад +6

    That's not water in the harbour it's mud the tide is out therefore there can't have been any intention other than to offload the truck. For those who don't know Watchet the tides are very extreme between high and low tide, at low tide the water is nearly half mile out from the harbour. West Somerset has the smallest District council in the country and is completely broke

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад +1

      Sadly true. One of our beach car parks is soon to be closed because the council cant afford to repair it. What a state to be in!

    • @awuma
      @awuma 6 лет назад

      If you keep electing Tories you get Austerity. At least Labour is no longer controlled by neo-liberals.

    • @harryphillips6060
      @harryphillips6060 5 лет назад

      nice bit of leg can take my photo anytime

    • @aussiegaigin
      @aussiegaigin 5 лет назад

      If they were just unloading truck, the boat could have been lifted and the truck driven away, then the boat lowered onto stands. There would be no reason to slew the jib like that?

  • @SMILEVIDEOTRAINS
    @SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 7 лет назад

    Very lucky to capture this Mike. Somewhere on the Tube there is a capture where the crane and the boat toppled in to the water.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  7 лет назад

      Gosh it doesn't bear thinking about does it!

    • @stephensmith3181
      @stephensmith3181 4 года назад

      Have seen that the whole lot ends up at the bottom of the harbour

  • @davidthompson9879
    @davidthompson9879 4 года назад +1

    That NCK had no chance at that radius. Hope the operator lost his license over this. Pure incompetence. Lucky no one was hurt. Should have used an RT with outriggers.

  • @imautuber
    @imautuber 4 года назад

    If the truck was side on to the crane this wouldn't have happened the crane is boomed out too far for the weight. Dispite everything I think they did an amazing job of saving this situation from becoming a far worse disaster.

  • @riverwizard22
    @riverwizard22 6 лет назад +15

    Boom UP !!!!

  • @Mike383HK
    @Mike383HK 4 года назад

    Shafts, props anything involved is gone. Why? The engineer responsible for the calculations of the weight. Who weighed the boat? To continue was the greatest stupidity.

  • @robertparkes4982
    @robertparkes4982 6 лет назад +2

    What a lovely little cruiser, hope everything turned out OK....

  • @fionacarstairs7326
    @fionacarstairs7326 Год назад

    We all thought that this was incompetance but compared to the Cardiff Marine group who have taken over Watchet who work on an altogether different league of incompetance it seems that the Marina is now for all intents and purposes not fit for purpose and with the near collapse of the Marine group it is expected to shut its doors in Watchet and the other marina's on the Welsh coast under the custody of scoundrel known as Christopher Odling Smee .

  • @larrysgarage1682
    @larrysgarage1682 4 года назад

    As a certified and experienced operator, it's obvious he knew the boat was too much. Having the tracks positioned over the front for max lift when booming down over the water. The people standing directly under the boom tip filming including the owner are oblivious. If that crane tips over the boat, they will be screwed. Looks like 100+ft boom. I wanna see someone run 100ft in under 2 seconds when that boom crashes down on ur head.

  • @bonusnudges
    @bonusnudges 4 года назад

    Looks like no wyle gear / weigh cell on the crane ?

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 6 лет назад

    He would have been ok if he reduced radius from center of crane to hook about 10ft by sitting broad side to nice boat. I hauled alot of big wood boats some 50ft. One time I lifted one and the engines dropped out of rotten bottom sides.
    Also most often Boat yard cranes are not inspected or certified nor their operators . Usually a boat mechanic or yard man runs it who is not trained in rigging or cranes.
    Also we used four slings often with spreader beams cross wise on topsides to prevent hull deck distortions. Note how hull is tilting to bow putting alot more stress on front sling. We used to mark lift points on every boat from builder.
    I never lifted with spectator s that close or on boat either.
    Everyone makes errors . Hopefully boat did not break motor mounts or shaft log. Keels on these are very strong. Often engine transmission generator damaged from drop. Cheers from Long Island ,NY a Yank from the states.

  • @gearbender427
    @gearbender427 5 лет назад

    Operator is a graduate of the "Learn how to, crane operation from home, mail order, 2 week course" !!! They also offer home commercial airline pilot licencing courses.

  • @dierkrieger
    @dierkrieger 4 года назад

    As a Union Ironworker and a crane builder these people shouldn't be on the hospital side of the crane.

  • @neilbarrass4159
    @neilbarrass4159 5 лет назад

    Watcher marina is privately owned. Mud is in the harbour as they will not pay to get it removed. They still take fees from boat owners! The crane has a 20 ton capacity but not when it facing sideways with the boom. This reduces it's capacity greatly. Incompetent guidance by marina staff does not help,flapping like mad. The people next to the boat could have been decapitated at any time! No safety barriers,staff not wearing hard hats running under the boat when it has tipped over, SHOCKING!!!

  • @donaldgulledge729
    @donaldgulledge729 4 года назад

    The most unforgivable issue with this lift is not knowing the pick weight and realizing they were beyond capacity considering they brought this boat in by truck - which most likely had to come across a scale at some point and most likely even without the scale HAD to know the boat's weight for the road permit. If I were a betting man - that crane's load warnings system is either inoperable and they never fixed it - or it was faulty and they had become used to bypassing the alarms or cutting them out. So many things had to go wrong along the way to get to a place where a load takes control of the lifting crane instead of the normal reverse situation. Lucky they did not kill someone. Wonder what's worth more - the repairs to this man's boat and the loss of insurance or the wages saved by hiring a budget crane operator over the years?

  • @johnnypk1963
    @johnnypk1963 4 года назад

    Were the tracks of the crane facing the wrong way?! Is it more stable the other way?!

  • @jimmygrant3212
    @jimmygrant3212 6 лет назад +8

    It may not look like it to some but that’s a very heavy boat the way it’s built.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад +1

      You would think there must be some legal requirement for the weight to be declared correctly to the crane operator, and he must have some certification to show the crane can deal safely with that weight.

    • @DeHaan1021
      @DeHaan1021 6 лет назад

      Haha. The weight is the displacement of water. There is no such thing as heavy build as it looks. It just have a bigger displacement of water. I think they should not picked it up this way. Better have the boat square to the crane so it reduces flight.

    • @191246mann1
      @191246mann1 6 лет назад

      when it's out the water it is heavy

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад

      I had a closer look at the boat in question today in the snow. The video should be on line tomorrow.

    • @someotherdude
      @someotherdude 6 лет назад

      @ Admiral Scorner: It isn't possible to run a marina in that manner, the sheer bureaucracy would sink the business.

  • @flashpoint8909
    @flashpoint8909 4 года назад

    Had the Crane in the wrong place, should have been along side the boat with the Tracks 90 degrees to the Boat. This would present the widest base and the lift would be much closer to the center of the Crane.

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 6 лет назад

    PS one can block front tips of tracks to increase stability over track ends also. Make a big difference. Also a man at rear counter weight area can warn operator if rear part of track starts to float up indicating crane is overloaded. This prevents catastrophic failure . When bottom rollers lift off tracks don't lift.. If trailer was not there this crane would have flipped over.

  • @bigdogproductions7626
    @bigdogproductions7626 4 года назад +6

    Jaws (we’re going to need a bigger crane)

  • @canvids1
    @canvids1 7 лет назад +2

    Hi Mike looking at it from my experience of operating cranes, it looks like maybe two things an inexperienced crane operator.
    because he was reaching too far forward and put the crane off balance over and above the counter weights.
    He is lucky he wasn't doing it over the water or everything would be down in the bay.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  7 лет назад +1

      I bet he has not enjoyed many good nights since then!

  • @bostoncangrejo
    @bostoncangrejo 4 года назад

    The crane tipped because the treads were perpendicular to the load. As the crane swung towards the water, the situation became worse. The end of the treads facing away from the water should have been pointing halfway between the initial load direction and the final load direction.

  • @Sailer12121
    @Sailer12121 6 лет назад +4

    I’m a cane operator and this crane is way to small and picking from the side.this is the least stable over the side if this guy had a certified with the cco this would never of happened it looks to be a 50-60 ton crane and that’s what it Weighs ,not what it can pic !!!

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад +1

      I fear Watchet Marina is overdue for a financial investment all round. There will be one in terms of the buildings I understand but the boating side does need updating!

    • @bowlweevil4161
      @bowlweevil4161 6 лет назад

      you are no more a crane operator than the man in the moon is the listed tonnage of a crane is how much it will lift not what it weighs, you must have been the dumbass in the crane in this video

    • @darb4091
      @darb4091 6 лет назад

      "... if this guy had a certified with the cco this would never of happened ..." seriously, you mean a two week course?

    • @Sailer12121
      @Sailer12121 6 лет назад

      Brad Darb you also need years of experience I ran cranes way before cco ever came out .i hear a lot of negativity from people enjoy the tide pod

    • @Sailer12121
      @Sailer12121 6 лет назад

      Brad Darb plus your supposed to have 1500 hrs before you take the test but some companies Lie as in your case obviously good luck on your short crane career

  • @markspence20xx
    @markspence20xx 6 лет назад

    Anyone know the make & model of that boat?

  • @girlinagale
    @girlinagale 4 года назад

    I recognise Lady Lorne, feel sure it was the boat I piloted from Ipswich to Calais in about 1994, when owned by Peter and Emma.

  • @jerrycallender7604
    @jerrycallender7604 4 года назад +2

    I'll wager the Port shaft is bent and prop doesn't 'look' right.

  • @barrythedieselelectricstea5217
    @barrythedieselelectricstea5217 2 года назад

    it looks like nobody checked to see what the weight of the boat was if it had a label if not don't assume the crane will lift it lt best to get a bigger crane in to be sure plus the boat should have been pointing the same way as the tracks having the boat side ways to the crane your asking for trouble plus the crane has no stabilizers

  • @Junkboda40
    @Junkboda40 6 лет назад +3

    No mystery, To much weight for that radius.

  • @larrythompson8630
    @larrythompson8630 2 года назад

    I know little of overhead lifting. But the people so close.. 4 minutes in they FINALLY get people out of danger area. I have used a track hoe to lift stuff. You don’t lift max 90 degrees from direction of travel. Huge danger is lowering it over wall. I would point tracks @15 degrees off strait at wall. So my lift @30 degrees off ideal. (But closer to me so it balances out). As I swing I get BETTER stability. As I am forced to raise load over railing (looks like anti climb fence above?) and boom out. I am at my most stable. Once clear of wall slowly lower, and not stop. It could have been much worse. I have done sketchy. But that was bad.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  2 года назад

      He will never do things that way again I am sure!

  • @grays257
    @grays257 7 лет назад

    Right place at the right time to capture that Mike, good scoop. Will be interesting to know what caused that to suddenly tip like that and then to recover. Please keep us posted if you hear of any information. Very lucky there were no injuries to anybody, could easily have developed into a serious incident. Thanks again for your efforts in recording all your local events, never been to Watchet, but I feel like I know it quite well, its now on my list of places to visit, you should be paid a retainer by the local tourist office......Graham

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  7 лет назад

      Many thanks Graham. That is good to hear! As soon as I hear of any conclusions to this event I will post it here.

  • @bigdpw
    @bigdpw 6 лет назад +26

    somebody lied about the weight of this boat and the operator should have known by his indicators and stopped before he lifted it.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад

      I have not been around here when other boat lifts have occurred since this one.. I do hope to record a successful attempt in the future!

    • @someotherdude
      @someotherdude 6 лет назад +5

      you're wrong, arse. It's right in the title.

    • @tellmesomething2go
      @tellmesomething2go 6 лет назад +1

      some other arse. goof!

    • @geezer652
      @geezer652 5 лет назад +2

      Without the lorries CERTIFIED weight ticket, the lift should not have been attempted.
      Never lift anything you do not have an accurate weight of.
      Operator fail!

    • @brentbarnhart5827
      @brentbarnhart5827 5 лет назад +1

      Well technically the Crane DID start to Topple over, and it DID tip over..... you are right, in this day and age people are too stupid to READ, and not counting "click bait," Newspaper and magazine and television news coverage is daily filled with untrue comments that are clearly trying to lead the readers into a "certain belief, or agenda." But in this case..... written correctly, but that assumes a person is not ignorant and can READ and COMPREHEND the words before them.

  • @marknelson5929
    @marknelson5929 4 года назад

    As soon as I saw the first few minutes I felt the crane was overloaded, why was this allowed to happen? I worked at a marina in my younger days on my dads boat so had a feeling all was not right. I paused the film before the film progressed and saw 'pogojava' comment a day ago, an experienced crane operator, that said it all.

  • @andromedawind
    @andromedawind 4 года назад

    What a nice boat! Anybody knows who was the boatbuilder?

  • @tatersalad9416
    @tatersalad9416 4 года назад +3

    Smart truck driver, "exit stage right."

  • @markjennings2315
    @markjennings2315 4 года назад

    I wonder if the boat was failed or a line still secured to the trailer and the crane ended up trying to lift the trailer too and started to topple?

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  4 года назад

      I believe lessons have been learnt all round!

  • @trueblue2124
    @trueblue2124 6 лет назад

    Can't believe professionals can make such a clanger - what a mess -a nd could have been a lot worse - thank you for sharing video Admiral -

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад

      I have reason to believe that incident has really shook up the arrangements locally and things are done much better since then! Thank Goodness!

  • @leenderonde8723
    @leenderonde8723 4 года назад

    What kind of crane driver is that? Swinging so violently. I would let the boat to be checked first and let those guys pay for damage before putting it in the water

  • @yankeeshogun
    @yankeeshogun 6 лет назад

    Hopefully no one was hurt. Looks like the hull was not seriously damaged. Beautiful boat!

  • @diastoleny
    @diastoleny 4 года назад +3

    10k plus to replace that running gear. Don't ask me why I know.

    • @uaaadingding
      @uaaadingding 4 года назад

      out of curiosity: why new running gear? Because of the overload? Or because of the dynamic load peaks when the boat got free from the trailer and was swinging?

    • @chrishaan5766
      @chrishaan5766 4 года назад +2

      Running gear on the boat
      Rudders, propellers, propeller shafts looks like all of it hit the trailer

  • @roberthendry6492
    @roberthendry6492 3 года назад

    That boat will need a complete lower inspection........prop shafts,propellers,rudders.....in fact all underwater areas.

  • @robertbowman3406
    @robertbowman3406 4 года назад

    I would say that the tracks on the crane are facing the wrong direction. They should be in line with the boat, not at a cross angle.

  • @richardgray115
    @richardgray115 4 года назад

    I must say, many folk could have been injured or killed here. No regard to any basic safety. When things started to fall apart, nothing changed in the mood, it was all in a days work, until the someone actually dies.

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 4 года назад

    With the crane at risk of falling onto the boat, why are people putting themselves on the underside of the boat?

  • @huseyinkabadayi291
    @huseyinkabadayi291 6 лет назад

    Inconveniences I have seen at this event:
    1. The lifting area was not secured by security band.
    2. There were people watching lifting operation too close to the truck.
    3. Weight of the ship exceeded the lifting capacity of the crane.
    None of the persons involved in the lifting seems to be professional. Fortunately no person has been injured.

    • @chrisb718
      @chrisb718 6 лет назад

      Yep, that's right.. Its your typical boatyard.. ;)

  • @rickjunior6478
    @rickjunior6478 6 лет назад

    No outriggers on the crane for stabilization. Customer obviously went with the cheapest bid, good on you!

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад

      I had a look at that boat yesterday. Repairs to the propeller shaft appear to be in progress.

  • @jameslindley8318
    @jameslindley8318 6 лет назад +1

    Anybody with brain would lift it just off the supports to see if the crane is man enough ! If its on the border line / tipping point the get a bigger crane ! Or if the crane has it but no more then continue the lift inside of the existing parameters

  • @michaelrobinson3368
    @michaelrobinson3368 6 лет назад

    AGD Equipment had 3 different crawler cranes working there when the New Marina was being built by Dean&Dyball, i had the pleasure of rigging and then de-rigging all 3 cranes, lovely part of the country

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад

      Interesting. I notice these days we get different but similar models of crawler cranes there from time to time.The latest one is blue but looks the same!

  • @jimkey920
    @jimkey920 6 лет назад

    The crane operator was trying to get the outboard tred flat on the deck. It would have been helpful to shore it up. I did hear wood cracking when the boat slipped. Hopefully she's not damaged badly.

  • @johnbolton8606
    @johnbolton8606 3 года назад

    A "MASSIVE SHOUTOUT" for the CRANE DRIVER, such a "cockup". HAS HE GOT THE GUTS TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION IN THESE COMMENTS??????

  • @sscbkr48
    @sscbkr48 4 года назад

    Beautiful boat.. too heavy. Reminds me of a time trying to get off the ground in a overloaded chopper. We were moving camp in the Yukon. The pilot kept jettisoning payload until.. I think we're ok!

  • @paratrooper7340
    @paratrooper7340 3 года назад

    I thought operators would shift the direction of the tracks in order to keep the most support for a lift.

  • @tommanley2924
    @tommanley2924 7 лет назад +11

    No counter weights, no out riggers..........wrong type of crane anyway.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  7 лет назад

      I expect there will be an urgent enquiry into what went on. That crane later successfully moved the boat to another resting place on the concrete boat park as seen in Part 3 of the previously mentioned video.

    • @spuds4t
      @spuds4t 7 лет назад +1

      COG. of boat Ok. Crane probably OK if placed at 90 degrees to vessel and stabalising out riggers fitted. Weight limit well within crane capability - just pure wrong common sense logistics.

    • @ADMIRALSCORNER
      @ADMIRALSCORNER  7 лет назад

      If i hear of another attempt to refloat the boat, I will try to be there with my camcorder.

    • @markwalsh9083
      @markwalsh9083 6 лет назад +1

      he was positioned wrong number one over the side,bad lift thats why operators need to be lic and know the limits of there machine

    • @goodmoaningvietnam1439
      @goodmoaningvietnam1439 6 лет назад +1

      There is a counter weight. This type of crane is fitted with outriggers.
      What is wrong is there are too many jib sections for this weight of a lift, if the crane driver can't jib up enough to have the correct weight within the radius of the installed jib length then he has to remove a section or two.
      With a lattice jib the maximum the crane can lift is with the shortest jib, namely the root and the top section only. plus the falls of rope as stipulated on the Wyle safe loud indicator. As there were no bells ringing when the rear track was lifting off the ground, it's clear the overload system was either not used or broken, in each case the lift should not have gone ahead.
      I do talk with carnage experience having driving crawler cranes, yard mobiles, tracked tower cranes for some of the UK's largest contractors and Greenham Crane Hire lorry mounted cranes. Plus have lifted many boats and owned a Dunkirk Little ship. So was double sad to see the careless handling of Lady Lorne.

  • @photoclass8984
    @photoclass8984 4 года назад

    A BOAT Lady Lorne. Tell me where to find a detailed description of this yacht and the project on which it was built .

    • @Jon-em4kc
      @Jon-em4kc 4 года назад +1

      www.billandnancy.com/index.php-option=com_content&view=article&id=140_may-5-2008&catid=51_2008&Itemid=152.html
      It also used to belong to a drummer named Bob Irwin.

    • @Jon-em4kc
      @Jon-em4kc 4 года назад +1

      It was built in 1961 by Feadship in Holland. Not much more information available.

    • @photoclass8984
      @photoclass8984 4 года назад

      @@Jon-em4kc Thanks you!
      this is an interesting project from the last century, the golden age of simple and functional design for life (1961)

    • @photoclass8984
      @photoclass8984 4 года назад

      @@Jon-em4kc thanks sir!

  • @joer1757
    @joer1757 4 года назад +2

    "what did you say that boat weighted again?"

  • @skydive1424
    @skydive1424 4 года назад

    No one could ever see that coming.....🙄
    If that thing toppled at that steep boom angle, the entire show would have fallen into the abyss once he would swivel towards the water. They were in fact lucky it topple where it did.... With such a beautiful boat, spend the money on a professional crane crew, not the marina guy....
    And still people were walking underneath the boat.....

  • @shaneadamiak2153
    @shaneadamiak2153 4 года назад

    Why is the water so low? All the boats look like they are in the mud.

    • @philup4947
      @philup4947 4 года назад

      Is that a joke, you do know the tides out.

  • @ADMIRALSCORNER
    @ADMIRALSCORNER  6 лет назад

    The latest news is that that boat has now left Watchet Marina, but I cant discover if it was by sea or road.

  • @skidmark8684
    @skidmark8684 6 лет назад

    Well its what happens when working outside the safe lifting radius, which is dangerous, they were lucky to get out of that situation with so little damage. Poor owner must have been frantic.