Transformers is for Kids. So what?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Transformers isn't always targeting child audiences, but it usually is. Let's talk about why there is nothing wrong in being a Transformers fan and what the difference is between content made for adults vs children.
Transformers Prime, RID 2015, Transformers Animated, Rescue Bots, Rescue Bots Academy, Transformers Cyberverse, Masterforce, IDW. Featuring some Bumblebee
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@@cyrusthegreat7030 Nah
@@cyrusthegreat7030 Patrick you need to stop living under your rock
Sandy is a boy
I love your sections about this franchise’s fangirls and LGBTQ+ fans. As a genderfluid fan who grew up with Transformers, thank you. 💞
If I were to be honest with you, even many of the series that are considered for kids, I know I personally would not actually consider for kids XD
I remember growing up with transformers prime, and even at the time, I felt that it wasn’t appropriate for the age as watching it, yet I continued watching it lol. TheReason why I don’t feel it’s authentically for kids, regardless of what the adults who made it believe, there’s an excessive amount of violence and suffering we have to see the transformers go through, regardless of what color they’re supposed blood is, the amount of violence and kind of violence that is presented I would say it’s not appropriate for children, and resembles more of what I would see in a mature anime
So no worries, I don’t think you have anything to worry about :-)
@@qantaloupemelon2791 , I strongly disagree with your opinion. I personally consider Transformers Prime for kids, because I know for a fact that kids, especially young boys love robot action/violence, stories that are well written, a tone that is perfectly balance of light and dark, interesting characters with backstories. I can go on and on on why I consider TFP to be a great transformers cartoon for kids, but that is all for now. I loved Transformers prime as a 7 year old kid when it aired on TV, because of everything I mention in my comment. Right now I have a 9 year old cousin who is watching Transformers Prime on dvd and he is literally loving it, especially with violence aka actions it has and I see no problems with that, as the parents of my cousin see no problems with that as well.
Bottom line: A good show is a good show, kids show or not.
Indeed Like there is no hive mind rules saying you are force to watch this and that
*Sheesh*
A great kids show is easy enough for kids to be entertained, and deep enough to have a story that adults enjoy. See Amphibia and Gravity Falls.
Like MLP
Faxx
Yeah. It’s called Family entertainment for a reason
I just don’t understand why people and companies think that kids are stupid and can only be happy when neither of those things are true.
They forget they were once young before starting to rot away with age
That's why
The actual customers want good storytelling and enjoyable characters.
The old G1 and Prime fogies are salty about the companies, that's why Lol.
Unfortunately there are a lot of parents that expect this of networks. Instead of seeing it is entertainment that they should first watch themselves and then judge whether or not their kids can handle it, they expect the TV to be a babysitter for them and get mad when that babysitter "purposefully" scares their children; as if G1 didn't come with literal mutilations and death. Hell, this generation of parents grew up on _Beast Wars_ which had dismemberment as its main form of comedy. It also had cannibalism, brain washing, literal sadists, slavery, sex-based innuendos and death. It made TFP look _tame_ in comparison.
Sometimes it's a matter of parents not willing to challenge their children; I remember getting into this huge heated argument where a woman weaponized her autistic nephew as somebody who couldn't handle transformers prime and therefore, transformers prime needed to dumb down it's violence. I had the opposite opinion, I kept pointing out that they had rescue bots to watch instead if they couldn't handle transformers prime and transformers prime doesn't deserve to be dumbed down because her autistic nephew couldn't handle the material. She just kept flying off the handle saying how dare I question her nephew's autism/not care about it (she, meanwhile, is ignoring my autism & ADHD) and pointed out how it even scared one of the creators kids like it was some grand slam against my point. "Yeah," I said, "this is why they made rescue bots."
Like she didn't seem to understand how selfish and audacious it was to expect transformers prime to dumb itself down for children who couldn't handle it rather than expecting the parents/caregivers to find media they could handle or better yet, expose them to what scares them and deal with the fallout appropriately instead of avoiding it so they don't have to deal with an autistic meltdown. (Another thing she mentioned. Like, I'm sorry your kid is harder to handle, but that's bit the show's problem????)
@@NoirRaven Rescue Bots was made for toddlers/younger kids and Transformers Prime is made for older kids. Besides there are literally many kids loving TF Prime ever since it first aired. It's just parents being overlysensitive to fictional violence. I was 7 when Prime came out and I loved it very much, including the violence aka action and my parents knew about it and did NOT care, because why would they? They know that it's common for kids, especially boys adoring robot action cartoons.
Transformers: Designed for kids and toy sales.
Meanwhile, Fall of Cybertron:
Does actually make me wonder what High Moon's target demographic was for those games. Always struck me as for teens but I love them because it seems like they appealed to everyone.
@@Breadn I'd say 10 or above. It has a much darker tone compared to other games and brutal scenes in it that are only excused by the fact that Cybertronians are not biological. But a 8-10 year old can handle that already. Or I was a very brutal child.
Fall Of Cybertron wasn't too dark for kids, it's the shooter genre of the game itself, younger children wouldn't have the skills required to beat the game
@@RXQ1jj I think that's not entirely true either. It was rather simple im terms of shooter and I beat Ratchet&Clank 3 at the age of 6. It was the first game I ever finished, and is rather similar to Fall of Cybertron regarding complexity.
@@Mediados what about COD and Fortnite.
My argument against people who shame me for liking the kids shows I enjoy is this "I like it because it is well written, that's it"
Or just say like what sundowner said in MGR
"I'm very in touch with my inner child"
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 "Kids are cruel Jack, and I love mi-"
@@filiposki301 *Activating Women Deflectors*
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*RED SUN OVER PARADISE*
there is a funny irony in the "mature" orientated transformers shows are absolutely awful while the kid friendly shows and media end up being the best with the exception of the Cybertron games, which rock
I'll take rescue bots over fucking earthrise
@@kR-qj7rw Anyone with a brain would.
@@kade-qt1zu ...but not Kingdom.
It makes sense that the mature oriented shows are worse than the kid ones. Mature shows don't have the restrictions that kids shows do, so the writers have to be clever with how they do jokes or write the story.
@@kR-qj7rw whats earthrise?
No matter what age, you can still enjoy and like kids shows.
That's true
As a 13 year old, I loved that prime wars had Megatron swear on screen.
It gave me another sense of that transformers doesn't have to be for kids, and I just found it incredibly funny with how he delivered it 😭
Hey bub don’t tell people your age, please
@@dylanorona8474 I think they meant that they were 13 year old when they saw it?
"Ohhhh.....shit." I honestly loved that and still remember it as the best part of Prime Wars
lol me too
Swore on screen? What did he say
I find it ironic that the Transformers content aimed at adults have the quality of a TF edgelord’s fanfic while the Transformers content aimed at children takes the most risks and it pays off (examples including Cyberverse, Animated, and Beast Wars).
Yeah it would've been nice if TFP had the same amount of scene changes and new character introductions as Cyberverse, though I'm sure the Cyberverse models are much easier to develop and animate due to the artstyle.
The only place that adult transformers works is in comics, like some of IDW's darker entries
@@auberginemanproductions1608 exactly. The comics also allow for more variety and the freedom to get away with mature themes without talking down to the audience.
@@auberginemanproductions1608 I disagree that only comics work.
An adult oriented show CAN work. It's just we had hacks who don't know how to write an actual show and overcompensate by killing filler characters.
@@rolandodr98 Valid take as well.
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Kid shows now : no, no, we can't put violence here, it's inappropriate
Kid shows in 80's : let's prepare for robot genocide and war crimes
That's literally what cartoon network became now
@@brawmankerlexterminateurde860 I guess it can be said for a number of networks as well that don't want enjoyable storytelling for their audience.
I don’t know, but are you sure you’re really familiar with majority of 80s shows?
@@qantaloupemelon2791 as 80's shows I was refering to transformers g1 where they literally showed how unicron wiped out entire cybertron's moon and megatron just decimated autobots on the ship
@@kovval8835 oh I see. To be honest with you, I’m not all that familiar with generation one, first off I watched it a long time ago, secondly, when I was watching it independently from my father via the Internet, I heeded to his very warnings, about any episode past season one.
If I shall elaborate, he warned me, the past season one, things get weird. As a kid, I was like, let me decide that from my very self, and lo and behold, he was more than correct.
Basically, in other words, didn’t get to go all that far into the series, only watched maybe about one and a half seasons, and that was a long time ago
As time goes on we develop a belief that anything that we grew up with was actually the most mature and adult thing to exist when the stuff that we have in reality did have dark stuff but sure as hell wasn't "adult" gatekeeping will always be cringe and I don't see the appeal of hogging something to yourself because of petty reasons
People will grow up to see one adult joke in a spongebob episode that they liked as a kid, and then start talking about how the show isn’t for kids.
True, and the worst part about adult gatekeeping is that they compare the cartoon I wanted to go see called BotBots to TTG
I mean what the hell does TTG have to do with that??
Did you ever hear the tragedy of the butthurted users of tfw2005? I thought so. A majority of those adults are so toxic that they won't respect other people's opinions on shows or toys, like if someone were to enjoy a preschool show like transformers rescue bots, they treat the person as a lesser being and call them out as immature which is so immature. Not only that, but some tfw2005 users even gatekeep kids from watching and enjoying great cartoons like transformers prime just because they think that a show that is well-written should only be enjoyed by adults. Ironic, considering the fact that those are the same people who keeping claiming that kids deserve better transformers shows/cartoons that is enriching, so once transformers prime was made, they literally gatekeep kids from enjoying it and claim that show for themselves only. So cringeworthy of them lol.
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I first watched transformers prime when I was 8 or 9 and was immediately into it. The first episode(where cliff jumper died) and the episodes with Arachnid were a little hard for me as a kid to watch, but everything else was fine. I learned about death, compassion and much. Since then, I've supported it more and more, understanding you should not be ashamed for watching a "kid show." I am 14 right now, btw.
Love your channel, by the way. Keep the TFP community going all the way!
when the "E for Everyone" actually means "E for Everyone", then it will be a great show.
It fits as well for kids as it does for adults. Most of the "kid animations" that actually have a storyline will be like this, having many adult fans and creating big fandoms.
“When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
-C S Lewis
I feel like that fear of childishness is what makes some of the adult transformers shows really bad, basically edgelord fantasies.
I agree, if you show kids mature themes then they'll learn to appreciate when their older
Thomas and friends once fell under this category with scrap yards and scrap being the locomotive version of death
Despite being a 16 year old, I still find myself going back to watch Thomas and Friends, despite it being the most "kid show" out there, just for nostalgia and being able to understand the darker tones the show had.
and that fire intro track.
Oh god now I remember a thing where they edited Thomas and made him run though an orphanage and he then said he was covered in sticky gooy children 💀
Ye man Thomas the tank engine ✊
I am also 16 and I watched many kids shows like Word Girl because of nostalgia
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I usually watch those shows with a friend when we have nothing better to do, usually for shits and giggles.
a lot of kid's shows and movies have better plots,story and characters than most grown up shows and movies. well only if the writers are great and actually put their heart, love and passion into the episode or story of the movie. Why do you think some adults would rather watch kid cartoons than some of the shows that's actually made for adults.
doe to be honest if IDW turns transformers MTMTE and lost light into a real cartoon for adults and 16 to 17-18 year olds and it was streaming I'd stop playing a video game or sit at the table to eat dinner to watch it.
I'm a teenager who likes Thomas the train and rescue bots lol
@@transformerfoxyfloof8341 Thomas is understandable, I've seen some creepy pasta about it, that's definitely not for children audiences.
Rescue Bots on the other hand isn't, not because it's for kids, but because when I was younger I came from school and sometimes watched it on TV, and you know what, no bots ever pulled out their guns or fought anyone, that was really unacceptable after Prime, however, that did make me enjoy the Doctor Morro plot, I was very exited when one of his drones transformed his hand into a real purple gun.
True, edgelords who are obsesed with Prime or G1 and hate BotBots are what ruined the fandom.
Funny man.
Finally someone said the TFA thing, god I had to argue about the "kids show" deal for far too many times.
I remember when I was a kid, I was looking for something to watch on tv, I came across an episode of transformers prime and saw breakdown being brutally torn apart which absolutely no context and thought it was the coolest thing I've ever seen. And thats how I was introduced to that flawed but amazing series, and im very grateful for it.
I feel like TFA is a good hybrid between the more mature themes and kid-friendly tone. If you really watch the show and read the comics you get this really broad picture of a dark political structure, but this would go over any kid's head. You wouldn't notice the finer details in what is implied until you get older (like the war crimes the Autobots committed against the Decepticons). This is why TFA stands to be my favorite continuity, there's a lot of darker things that are implied but never directly stated while still being a kids show. It could have easily embraced the darker themes present and been more like 2005IDW with its' writing but it never chose to, it only left this to the imagination. This made actual dark scenes (Blurr getting crushed for example) all the better as it was a huge shock that they'd actually show that. TFA is a heavily underrated Transformers show that I think does the best at making both factions more morally gray as to which is correct. Sure, the intro tells you the Autobots are the good guys and the Decepticons are bad, but throughout the show (and comics) we see the Autobots committing some heinous things but on the flipside the Decepticons are also pretty terrible. I really think TFA is the most slept on continuity as it combines the good parts of Cyberverse with the good parts of IDW2005.
also edit: (I feel like TFA is a lot darker than TFP due to a lot of what it implies being far worse than TFP's implications/what it shows)
I absolutely agree! I love TFA. Excellent balance of dark themes and family friendly entertainment. It was grest for fans young and old. I still wish the show got a S4
I'm also a star wars fan so reading this fried my brain
TFA probably had more injuries than any other transformers show, Bumblebee nearly died, Ratchet had ptsd, Optimus died for a scene in the THIRD EPISODE, there were lots of cons, deception, manipulation, hostage situations, and life threatening dangers in almost every single episode, and I LOVE IT.
I'm totally fine with them making shows for kids. My problem is when us older fans have nothing geared towards us.
Amen. Definitely good to cultivate new fans. But forgetting, or even berating the OG fans is very frustrating.
We probably can only wait for a generational shift like Ben 10 went through one and so did Transformers a couple times so the only issue is living long enough to see that shift
Facts. Nothing wrong with nurturing our
inner child 👌
Or scaring him/her 😀
"When the air blows through
The reptile tail rip from its back"
Sundowner agrees with this statement
*Red Sun starts playing*
Like I said Jack
Kids are cruel
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*RED SUN OVER PARADISE*
Transformers Animated was what got me into transformers in the first place. I fell in love with characters, but every time I talk about it, people think it’s stupid for liking a “kid show”. I love this show, it’s a show that makes me happy and sometimes it’s hard for me to like something when people tell me it’s dumb. Thank you for making this video. It makes me feel a lot more confident in my interests
Same goes for beast wars as well i think. Even tho it's a kids show it still shows dark and intriguing concepts like transmutate, genocide effecting characters, challenging your inner identity over what you are made to be.
My two year old niece loves the Rescue Bots Academy toys I gave her. She drives them around as cars and plays pretend with them as robots.
One of her favorite things to do is put Bumblebee on the back of an Optimus themed pony.
I can't wait to start showing her some of the series.
As for me, I'm in my late 30 and enjoyed Rescue Bots right along with Prime.
Transformers is for everyone who wants to enjoy it.
I am 20 and I am in love with Rescue Bots: Academy. It does something most friend based shows just don't, it shows kids being kids and then being friends. If I had a show like that when I was younger, especially with autistic rep like Medix, I would have been so happy
I completely agree I love transformers I might be a little young but I love the battle scenes and way most characters just combust is actually really cool in IDW because it shows that they are unique and have skeletal insides and how robotic they are
As someone who is also on the younger side and read the IDW comics, I totally agree with this 👍 in fact, it's thanks to idw that I have a better understanding of robot anatomy in general
I actually didn't know how graphic-infested it was until the video pointed it out lol
Same
To me, Rescue Bots might just have the characters that feel the most like real people, especially with all the background extras actually getting names and personalities.
In Rescue Bots, I had a genuine reason to be concerned about what the disaster of the week might do to Griffin Rock.
Plus, the music was amazing!
Also as like a ten year old I was somewhat into both Metal Gear Rising and Elfen Lied so...
Dude the theme kinda slaps
And we had character growth
I was 9-11 years old when I watch the first three Bayverse movies cuz I was hook on the robots and fight scenes, and those movies made me a Transformers fan for life.
That is literally what happen to me as a young kid when watching bayformers movies because of the robot characters and the actions which is something that kids, especially young boys love so much, not just adults.
Same
But im wondering what demographic the movies were for
Idt it was made for kids
Mannn, this video describes me. Literally, I'm about to turn 18 and I keep prefering kids shows over ++18 GORE-IS-THE-LAW series. Some, like invencible are REALLY cool, but must of them focus more on sexual or violent content over a good quality story. That's why I love kids shows like Transformers Prime and She-Ra, they do have cringy moments but must of the story is REALLY well thought, and you instantly fall in love with the characters.
P.D.: Decepticons are far more interesting than Autobots... Who is with me? ):D #SoundwaveGod
Decepticons are more interesting than Autobots, but only in the Cybetron games continuity, I have no reason of joining the Autobots there, none of them is good or evil, they just have different opinions on Cybertron.
@@dangamertop9253 Uff, I haven't played the games, but they all seem really really cool.
Y'know, looking back I think that the reason why Prime has this reputation of being a "adult" show, and why other transformers shows are not treated as seriously by anyone besides dedicated fans. It's because of lingering belief that maturity equals: "seriousness, misery, depression, tragedy, etc". Alsongside the trend of linking happiness, fun, lightheartedness, exccitement etc to naivity and immaturity. Which is why I think is behind public's reception of main transformers shows. Which is a part of a mass of bigger problems in our society, and a complete BS. Because without disrespect to Prime, it's not a flawless masterpiece, and quite often bit more that it could chew. With majority of other TF shows having as much or even more mature understanding and themes, while still being fun and goofy. Because maturity is not about being sad and miserable, it's about understanding how you and the world around you tick, and how to navigate within this understanding.
Dude, I think you drop this 🏅
Notice how the "adult Transformers show" is seen as bad shows by the community, and most of the "Kids Transformers shows" are seen as good by the community
Transformers Prime was very mature/even dark and it was one of the highest ranking Transformers shows ever made. ;P
@@pepita2437 It also has Bumblebee doing the Robot, the Autobots playing Basketball, and was a "kids show", while keeping the mature elements
@@Akiba_Arts Prime is not the regular kids show tho. It was made for both kids (older ones), and adults. While a lots of other transformers cartoon series were EXCLUSIVELY made for children (like G1)
TFP was a very mature show, with humor sprinkled in to make it suitable fot children. It works with mture themes we don't see in regular transformers shows. (Horror, mutilation, abuse, death, torture, etc)
Those are not themes a show made for childrn usually has. ;P
I mean, as of recent transformers series are coming up, its trying to get into the kid's perspectives, but even an adult can enjoy something like Rescue Bots
I am 14 and Transformers Rescue bots was the first Transformers series i ever watched
@@Husker.88 mine was the bayverse. Now, I stayed, only because of some characters designs and the toylines
Rescue Bots was one of my big chill-out shows during uni.
One thing id like to add is the transformers WFC trilogy on netflix has less complex ideas than cyberverse and draws from IDW way more. The show marketed for older fans is simpler than cyberversw
Well that's also to do with what they allowed the writers to do They basically took away the people being like low let's make this advertisement good so we just got stuck with the advertisement part of our favorite glorified advertisement That's what I heard all about it
I feel related to this topic, I got into Transformers when the first movie came out in 2007, I was very young and it fascinate me, the scene when the Autobots arrives was exciting. Then I watched Rescue Bots and Prime, in that moments I was a complete fan, but I didn't have anyone to share the passion so thanks for the community and your videos. I don't feel alone watching this shows.
I'm 20, a chick and completely obsessed with transformers cartoons and I had no idea how much I needed this video. Thank you
I enjoyed cyberverse a while back and even started *simping* for some characters but when i noticed the hate it was getting i just stayed silent with my Soundwave body pillow
A Soundwave body pillow? Outrageous!
Where can I buy one?
Fairy stories.
Period.
I’m a 61 y-o child now. Rescue Bots Academy is so sweet.
My favourite thing about TFP RB and RBA is that they are all connected and can be placed in chronological order, so no matter which one you watch, there is a vast story behind it.
I grew up with horror and action movies because my mom loved those. Her favorites are Alien, Predator, and Zombie movies. She introduced me to Transformers when I was very young because she grew up with G1 and we still watch Transformers, horror, and action movies together.
nowadays we tend to believe kids are dumb and can't handle or understand complex or dark stories, which is completely false, as a young kid I liked complex stuff and hated dumb plots.
Yet adults are craving for more stories exploiting the full potential of the franchise like the comics did.
Japanese mangas and anime understood the balance between something a kid can watch and enjoy, and something adult will fully enjoy without feeling the show is restrained.
Very true about kids and their ability to handle violence and stuff. When supervised that is.
My mother got us, the two girls and her one boy, transformers action figurines. At the time, we were raised on Bayformers. And as kids, we did watch Bayformers with our parents.
Then we also have animal dolls that would stereotypically be seen as girls toys, complete with dollhouses. My brother is allowed to play with dolls with his sisters, and his sisters play with him his cars. And on the dolls, my siblings often act out goddamn apocalyptic scenarios such as a mass flooding. Yes, kids are able to process heavy stuff.
But if you’re the parent, you should still supervise them when they wanna watch something with heavy dark stuff. I can say I remember the gory details of Saving Private Ryan since 8 years old, but I know my parents were there to supervise.
To this day, I'll never not adore rescue bots.
I can agree. Shows today talk down to kids. Because everyone thinks that they are stupid. The same thing happened to Thomas when it first came on it was for all ages. But now it has been so badly slaughter to be a baby show. When the book and the classic series was for all ages. The unlucky tug made a video on this.
God I want to slap these fans that don't understand we're all consuming a multimedia TOY COMMERCIAL
**The* toy commercial.
I've always felt Transformers was pretty much for everyone. I mean of course besides the IDW comics and Michael Bay movies. I loved Transformers Prime for it's dark elements. I enjoyed animated for trying something different by setting it after the war and showing that the Autobot faction has many problems. I mean i'm not a fan of every series such as the Beast War era and the Energon and Cybertron shows in the Unicron trilogy. Over all it's a franchise that can appeal to everyone and will most likely have at least one thing for them to love.
I always felt the idw comics were aimed at teens and young adults.
I did watch Rescue Bots recently, and it's genuinely a good show. I expected something more like Rescue Bots Academy, which is definitely for young children, but the first series is pretty much on par with Animated with it's target audience, and they are better at representing cybertronians than RID (seriously, i expected more generic "dangling off cliffs" moments from Rescue Bots, but it's actually really good at coming up with different situations and rescues without making cybertronians unable to pick eachother up like in RID season 2*. Blades the helicopter can just give a lift to the whole team most of the time :D)
*no seriously, Windblade falls into a torrent and splashes around like she's drowning? YOU CAN FLY! YOU DON'T BREATHE! wtf, RID.
I can confirm I first watched Transformers: Prime when I was 6. I craved this show and a lot of other shows that were a lot more mature than usual. I watched episode and episode without needing to pull out my remote and turn off my TV because a character is bleeding blood.
Kudos to you for making this video. Plenty of stuff I like has children as an intended audience (like Disney movies for instance), and not once have I ever had any issue with watching and enjoying them at my current age, and neither should anyone else 😊
I remember when I was a teenager (about 16 or so) I got guilt tripped by my parents for watching cartoons and some other tv shows. At some point I even tried to watch other programs like these on Animal Planet etc. but I gave up on it some time later because it wasn't that interesting to me, I just switched back to my old ways. I actually stopped watching cartoons mostly because they dropped the quality of shows (or at least that was so imo). But now being 25+, I like coming back to watching cartoons that I enjoyed in my younger days and finding out other shows I somehow missed in the past.
I think honestly that teenage years can be terrible if it comes to the amount of shame we experience for liking things "inappropriate" for our age and later it's stuck to us in the adulthood. It's pretty sad that people think that being adult means the lack of some form of entertainment and that after we hit certain age we're not allowed to have fun in some ways. But I believe that this mindset is getting weaker and weaker nowadays and people feel less stricted so they still enjoy their things.
At the end of my comment the opinion I agree on is: If a show is well written, it doesn't matter if it's made for kids or not
BASED Kumquat. This got so based as it went on. People out here like “THOMAS THE TRAIN IS NOT FOR KIDS, THIS TRAIN, A KID GOT STUCK IN A TUNNEL” like bro it’s definitely for kids. It’s just a kid’s show where a train gets stuck in a tunnel. People claim that Gravity Falls and Transformers Prime aren’t for kids when they so clearly aren’tttttt. People don’t need to be embarrassed that they enjoy thing for kids, but stop tryna pretend they’re for adults.
Correction: Transformers Prime is a show primarily aimed at kids and I physically don't see anything wrong with that, especially when kids(7-13) would definitely love a cartoon show like transformers prime, like me when I was a 7 year old kid watching and enjoying transformers prime when it firsted aired on TV.
What's funny is that, with this video's logic, the live action transformers movies ends up being somewhat the opposite. It definitely has a lot of violent and suggestive themes (like deaths); yet, due to how they're written and Michael Bay being so insistent in making it his own awesome way, they end up having dumb and childish/cringe humor. Prob why they don't have a higher rating of pg-13 and why kids at the time, (such as me) became so invested in them. Though, despite what people say, I still enjoy these films intended for adults with cringe humor as much as I enjoy shows intended for children which may have dark themes.
I live the bay films but they really are just 10-13 year old nonsense big boom pretty girl cars
@@kR-qj7rw Exactly!
@@javivaki it's wack but it's the wack close to my hearth
Even if a lot of it specially the cringe teen humor, the constant sucking of the military (huuzaah soldier kills alien with guns( and the barely any development of the transformers)
At least most non human characters looked bomb ass
@@kR-qj7rw Agreed. Reason why I love Studio Series so much.
Bayverse movies will always remain my favorites, both because I like dumb humor in movies and because I really like the character (or perhaps more creature like) deisgns of the various Cybertronians, and also because the design of Starscream in the movies is in absolute my favorite version of him!
And since I've always been a fan of Creature deisgns (like giant reptiles, insectoid monsters and in general super natural or alien stuff) that gives to it extra points 👍
In G1 amazingly, the transformers were built to be slaves that could even be sold around the universe. Also, Megatron dismantled Optimus and laughed at his still active head, and manipulated Spike's frail state of mind when he was in Autobots X's body. G1 is goofy, it's an 80s cartoon of course, but if we take away the 80s cartoon filters damn we get a whole different tone here
Ok, just the fact that you did the outro with one of the absolute best scenes in rescue bots, you are now immediately my new best friend 😂🤣
The haters gotta hate, we are all embarking in a new age of content, Transformers is a kids show, their target audience is 10 to 15 year olds. So yes, we will have all sort of content for new kids and for the veterans as well.
Luckily for me since that BotBots cartoon is coming in March, I'm gonna check it out because I just want to get the whole "dark and gritty" nonsense out of my head for once :/
Agreed 😁😁
In real life, I'm unable to reveal my love for rescue bots and rescue bots academy since i fear people will mock me for. I usually love cute and simple shows, which is why Pretty Cure is my favorite anime series of all time, both of them are my comfort shows.
That's okay, I'm also probably gonna get mocked for enjoying BotBots because they all wanna force me to watch everything that's dark & gritty and nothing else.
It's no wonder people are becoming too edgy.
I can't reveal my enjoyment of Revenge of the Fallen to other transformers fans without being crucified
I really like the explosions and action with the robot fight scenes
Funny story, my friend when he was younger, actually watched most of TFP when it first came out. When I talked to him about TFP all he remembered was the first half of darkness rising part 1. In the span of an hour I brought back their memory of most of the first two seasons. Happiest hour of my life.
What annoys me about Siege was Hasbro's claims of it
being a "mature show geared towards the adult fans"
when, ultimately, it was very middle of road tonally.
Prime Wars lie all over again. Either commit to what
that promise entails or don't make it in the first place.
It's more like "tried too hard" syndrome.
Also, they really didn't want to pay for good voice actors. That's the main reason why the performances seem so bad.
@@TornaitSuperBird "Tried too hard" implies Rooster Teeth put in legit effort. Which, arguably they did, but only whenever the characters were spewing out pretentious, overwritten dialogue the RT writers are convinced was D E E P. Otherwise it's a boring, drawn out A to B slog to sit through.
If it wasn't for your dumb opinion about BotBots??
None of this would have happened
🙄
Not going to lie but... This is an issue I have with anything I'm interested in whether it be games, cartoons, my hobbies etc. I have trouble sharing about things I like because I grew up in a small town where it was stereotypical or at least that is how it felt to me. I liked a lot of the stuff that was aimed at the female demographic when I was a child. But when I reached my teenage years I discovered I liked watching Transformers, TMNT and anime. The peers I had to grow up around were so small-minded and undiverse to the point I refused to let anyone, even my closest friends know about my interests out of fear of being ridiculed. I still have that issue now when it comes to physical interaction. However, I'm not afraid to express myself on my interests online.
Even I watch rescue bots academy and I adore the show. It's perfect and It's my favourite along with cyberverse. You don't have to be a kid no one's gonna stop you
Hell, a lot of these shows are infinitely better than most adult shows.
I'm 13 and love watching transformers shows that should be for kids, I also like stuff like the bayverse and fall of Cybertron/war for Cybertron. Both of these while two are games are more adults focused with the bayverse having swears, inappropriate jokes, actual blood and energon. Fall of Cybertron/war for Cybertron has violent fights, blood, characters getting crushed, body parts getting ripped off, murder, dark moments. But kids might still enjoy them. It doesn't matter if it's a kids show or not if you enjoy don't be afraid to say
As a girl who was watching the mech anime like **Geo-Armor: Kishin Corps*, the supersub anime *Super Atragon*, the movie *Short Circket* (1986), and other media with tons of robots when she was tiny, the moment I found *Transformers Prime* I was immediately hook.
Side Theory: I think Miko was exposed to a lot of robot and mech media based on the line about Bot-swana in one of the first few episodes.
I’m 15 and I love watching kid shows
TMNT, Loud House, Transformers, Godzilla, Marvel, DC this stuff can be made for kids yet I still enjoy watching these movies and shows
The fact that the majority of the fandom is LGBTQ+…. That is so affirming it made me cry. Thank you.😍🥰😍
I've been a fan of Transformers for as long as I can remember. I grew up watching the movies, Prime, Armada, and some of Rescue Bots. I spend most of my spare cash buying Transformers merchandise or... oh someone's going to get a kick out of this: BUILD A BEAR.
Yep, I'm 18 and I love BAB. Spent the last few birthdays going to Build-A-Bear, have a collection to rival my Transformers collection. I find no shame in loudly expressing my interests!
Sure, I also like more adult-oriented content like, say, Game of Thrones or God of War - but I'm just as vocal (if not more) about my love for Transformers, BAB, Gravity Falls, and animated musicals! I still read Warrior cats and other series I enjoyed in elementary and middle school, and I'm proud of it!
Hell, when someone asks about Transformers I am very open to admit that, for the most part, it's a sometimes goofy franchise aimed towards kids. That's partially what I love about it lol, so why deny its charm?
I've been someone who has gotten flak for my "childish" interests in the past, and while I know I'm still incredibly young, I feel like those experiences just make it all the more worthwhile to love and embrace those interests! :]
I grew up watching Justice League, Teen Titans, Avatar: Tge Last Airbender, Batman: TAS, etc. Yeah, the shows do have silly moments in them, but they definitely had darker tones. They didn't shy away from more mature concepts. And i loved them as a kid, and I still do as a 30 year old man. And if I have kids, I'm definitely going to introduce them to these shows.
The sign of a good show is that people can enjoy it regardless of age, gender, race, etc.
"BEE, STOP. DOING.DONUTS."
That line still gets me to this day lol.
This is something I was JUST talking about with a friend of mine. And honestly, you're right. Nothing wrong with saying Transformers is meant for kids but with dark adult themes, cause kids aren't stupid. They can handle stuff like that. We just baby them a lot
I know I’m saying this a lot, I guess I just don’t want any other children to fall into the place I did. I know not all children are exactly the same, but I thought I should give some perspective as someone who also had parents that had the exact same perspective as it seems that a lot of you guys do here. Your intentions are very good, and I agree, there are a lot of things currently even that they dumb down in a lot of so-called kids shows, because for example, they’re super afraid that children will just implode if they hear the word crap, but yet, at the same, Will show some very violent scenery. I know this contradicts the argument of everyone else here, but as someone who had parents that thought it was ridiculous not to expose children to real life stuff, I have to say, I had to go through a lot of healing and some form of therapy to help with the effects that this kind of adult content had on me.
I am now older and can handle it, but just taken from personal experience, I totally get where you guys are coming from, but there are still certain things that children should not be exposed to, and violence is one of them. I know I didn’t need to forever feel my heart dropped into my stomach every time I saw an image of cliff jumper, not even remembering what happened to him, just associating something very gory and violent with him, yet I’m able to watch currently, ghost in the Shell and other very violent series. The difference is, I watched Transformers prime when I was about 10, versus I watched ghost in the shell at about 16.
Have you tried stopping??
I mean if you can stop babying them, it'll be over soon lol.
I watched transformers prime ever since it aired on TV as a 7/8year old kid. I absolutely adore that kids cartoon show for everything about it, the characters, the actions/violence, music, the stories for each episodes, movie inspirations, the dark elements it had, the comedy and more that I loved as a kid back then. I absolutely see NO real issues for transformers prime bring a kids show, especially when that show is everything that kids, especially young boys would love, not just adults. What with the robot characters, lots of actions, fun and interesting stories, music and more that both kids and adults would enjoy and appreciate. Kids don't have to enjoy TFP the same way as adults do since there is something in that show for everyone to like about. I had classmates of mine from elemschool who watches TFP on TV and talk about it, especially when a friend of mine talk about how he enjoyed the nemesis prime episode. My parents knows that I love that show and see no real problems with it because why the heck would they? Dare I say that my own parents wanted me to handle dark themes and frictional violence in cartoons, because they know that its possible for kids under 13 to handle. Put till this day, trust me when I say that there are actual kids watching and enjoy TFP on dvd. There are literally parents that bought the dvd for their kids to enjoy right now.
Mainline and studio series? Yeah I can see that,
But masterpiece and third party is where I *STRONGLY* disagree
Man, this is such a solid video and I can really appreciate this. Its super interesting to me and I love how you were able to explain the differences.
As someone who was a 7 year old kid during the time when transformers prime aired on TV, I absolutely loved it. I thought it was so awesome as a young boy, because of everything it has, the action scenes which is something I adore for so long, the designs for each characters, the characters themselves are so great(my favourites are Arcee, Bumblebee and Optimus Prime as a kid), the 3D animation, the music, the story/plot of prime, the comedy, the dark tone and the fact that it's a amazing kids cartoon show. Up till this day, I consider TFP to be easily my favourite kids cartoon show and my favourite transformers show. As an older fan right now, I see no real problem with TFP still being a show for kids. Transformers Prime was clearly meant to be a cartoon show aimed primarily towards kids aka a new generation of fans, while it still appeals to the older fans, which is something I gotta give credit to the creators. I am so glad that I grew up with TFP since childhood, the writers of the show definitely respected their target audience of younger viewers. I know for a fact that there are many kids around the world who loved transformers prime, I had classmates from elementary school who talk about the show, there were definitely children buying and playing with TFP toys. It really makes me happy to see kids of this generation enjoying their definitive transformers along side with the older fans from previous generations.
finally, someone who doesn't think our brains are sensitive, innocent pieces of mush :'D
Im an 18 year old male and I love transformers and I have since I was 3 years old, I rewatched TFP after not for 2 years and I found it still just as amazing
Thank you for making this validating video. I dropped or at the very least hid (from my peers) a bunch of series and games I'd liked as a teenager because I was embarrassed about liking them because they were for kids. Now that I'm an adult and have lost most, if not all fucks to give about others' opinions about what I like, I've been hopping on nostalgia trains a lot and it's been so much fun. I'm going to see if I can get some old Hugo or Moomin games working on my system soon because I came across the idea of revisiting them since I do have some of those in my apartment - and I have a feeling especially the Hugo games are going to be an absolute festival of nostalgia.
Thank y ou for everything you do for the community, Emperor Kumquat! :D
I loved transformers from the first part of it I watched. I once got this hoodi that had the auto-bot logo in it and I when I wore it to school the next day, people made fun of me for being a girl who liked Transformers.
Now, I like transformers but I want something more real-like transformers show more for ages of 17-13 maybe. Transformers did a good job but I’m talking serious serious I just wanted to put my opinion out. Maybe see some people who think the same thing, another thing I thought about is a volcano version of unicorn I think that would be cool as heck! But yeah.
Closest would be Transformers Prime and the Micheal Bay movies but the Micheal Bay movies has many problems. I would only want the serious and dark moments out of the Micheal Bay movies.
I read IDW as a kid
It was EPIC
You want a price or something
@@kR-qj7rw what?
5:44 actually helped me put together why the Sonic fandom (of today, not the one you're thinking, basically) has much those same elements.
Talking about cursed places with 5:06 's footage is perfectly fitting.
The thing with the rescue bots shows is that they don’t really respect the whole “robots from outer space” thing, like how transformers can be kids in Academy, even though they’re made instead of birthed and it’s rarely a thing in other series, and how in the original rescue bots the EMP zone is effective against transformers, even though they don’t even use electricity or have normal wiring (aside from the thing on boulders back). That and being made of metal even though they are much more resilient then metal, and it’d make no sense giving how they’re made and all.
Back when I watched Rescue Bots S1 for the first time (I was 16 ish years old I think) I convinced myself I did it only because I read in a comment on YT that it was somehow connected to TFP or at least in the same timeline, but after I watched ALL the seasons in just a couple of days... I just felt genuinely guilty for liking it so much. Now as a 18 yo I still feel kinda ashamed of admitting that I want to rewatch a few episodes again, or for wanting to check RB Academy (which I haven't yet), or that I genuinely felt attached to the characters especially Chase.
You have no idea how better this video makes me feel.
This video really helped me out. I’m a 14 year old who is alittle embarrassed of liking transformers like I collect some of the figures, I draw some transformers related art, and I watch transformers related content but yes I totally agree that it doesn’t matter how old or what gender u are in order to like a particular cartoon etc so thank you for making this video, emperor kumquat
I for one, watched transformers prime, heck even the live action movies when I wasn't even 5. I didn't cry when jazz got torn apart, I thought it was cool. Same with terracon Cliffjumper. I'm not even a teenager, yet I enjoy some of the grittier moments. If you like a show, watch it, don't hide it.
Ngl I needed this. I was a kid who grew up with Sonic, Warriors, Yugioh and The Thomas Franchise (the books and lore books that get realistic). I got teased all the time by extended fam and folks in school. Now, as an as an adult (18) I’ve looked into it more and really gone into the lore of them all. I love it y’know? Btw the subbed version of Yugioh gets horrifically dark and I love it. Makes me wise we got a redub lol
Silverstreams dead from warriors...was very uh.....
@@nojustauser9872 totally child friendly. 10/10
@@lonesailordee3886 was this in sarcasm?
@@nojustauser9872 nope. No trace amounts of facetious sarcasm here. Just good old fashioned seriousness
@@lonesailordee3886 alr
Right from the beginning my 3-year-old girl never liked dolls. Instead she would take toy cars and have them talk to each other and act like people. I thought this was a little disconcerting so I got the idea to get a few kiddy Transformers for her. The ones that transform with one step. These are by far her favorite toys now. Rescue Bots is by far her favorite show. I think it's awesome and I told her if she can figure out how to transform one of my Transformers then it's hers.
Uh cyclas stoped being human and the monster in him became out when he was fusoded with breakdown's dead body. Doubt anyone cryed when he was killed.
when my mom was around 10, she watched the transformers on the tv, she liked it!
When I was in 3rd grade I watched beast wars without knowing it was a transformers show. I LOVED IT! Everyday I would come home and watch it. Yes I didn't understand any of it but I still enjoyed it while it was still on Netflix.
Transformers' creation at the very start is explicitly to *sell toys.*
The way they wrote the story, be it cartoon or comic were all designed to do so. Characters live and die based on which toys get canned.
True, nowadays they have more creative freedom and can prioritize the story over the toys, but at the core they are still the same business. And that is fine.
Take Pokemon, it is as child friendly as it get and still is the most wide spread phenomenon for all ages.
"yawn"
That's like the 200th time I've heard that "To sell toys" slang, it's like y'all use that phrase as an insult and like it ain't funny anymore lol.
Just because a show is made for kids doesn’t mean it has to be cringy and predictable. What made Prime so great was its high quality and how much depth it gave its characters, how it touched so much Transformers lore, and that it wasn’t infested with shitty jokes (save for Miko, but even her character was later redeemed).
Very well said! I have been a fan since 1984. I am certain some people find my Transformers collecting and fandom weird, but for the reasons you outline, I don't really care what anyone thinks. The show are mostly well written, the Fandom is for the most part inclusive (as you mentioned), the bots are cool, the lore is interesting, and the toys are fun! I am glad that for the most part they focus on a kid audience, it keeps our Fandom alive and growing.
I am really glad that there are other people thinking along these lines. It is so boring and tedious when adults in the "fandom" behave as if Transformers is somehow for adults because for me, collecting Transformers and watching the shows is to get away from the tediously terrifying world we live. Transforming robots is an inherently silly idea and that's fine.
Despite being a G1 kid, Cyberverse is my favourite series because it is so well written.
That feeling I am writing Transformers fanfiction wich is R rated. Transformers Prime was actualy amazing.
5:14 signature look of superiority
The demographic is made for kids but the writing can just be a good story that doesn't dumb down or thing their audience is stupid were they actually think about war were you can have death but also light hearted moments like in real life
I liked TFP when it first aired on Netflix in 2010 and I loved every second of it because the characters had emotions they had distress sadness anguish rage and betrayal and all those words describe what transformers really is a kid's show for children not adults that debate is stupid and I hate it I wish that they would fizzle out like how the cosmic rust turned blur to dust and that's why it should not exist but it does and I hate it
I usually watch whatever show my sisters are into just in case. it doesn't matter how bad/cringey/etc... it is I always watch most of it and familiarize myself with the fandom. just in case.