I’ve been running my bear pledge for a few years now. Now I’m finally going to pull the trigger on a high end bow. Your videos have been SO extremely helpful! Especially without pushing any one brand like most other creators. Thank you and keep them coming!
You guys are making great no-nonsense videos and love the content... Can we get a mid price point bow comparison video and some individual reviews of those bows tested? It's hard to find good mid tier bow reviews that are worth a damn. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for all your reviews really appreciate the insight. I am new to archery. Was wondering if you can do a review on a Bow Smith’s tool set that’s good for someone to have at home
Awsome content. You guys rock on the info your putting! Can you do a video on the new Tight spot shift lock quiver? An if the quiver works with hamskea rest that are not integrate for the v3x
I have the twin turbo an the draw is smoother than most bows that speed. Way better than pse omen an Bowtech 350. It is a little stiff in the back in but nothing crazy smooth up until the last inch or so. Very similar to my rx5 but just not as smooth all the way threw! Very accurate bow tho sighting it in I broke 4 fletchings an a couple nocks! That’s a good thing people!
What do you guys think about electronic sights like he Garmin a1i series? They are hella expensive, as much as a flagship bow is some cases, but how do they compare if you don’t factor in the price?
Would it be better to do the rx7 at 80 pounds or the twin turbo at 70. 28.5 inch draw. Would the speed be relatively close? Not have such the aggressive pulling cams?
Man that looked rough! I shot a twin turbo with a 450 grain arrow at 28 inches and 29 and didn’t think the draw was as bad as that looked. Fps were better as well. Im seeing 10fps faster than my Ventum 30 pro both at 29.5 80 let off 70lbs. Ventum is noticeably smoother throughout but not by much. That looked like you had to rip it back, Im far from a pro but the draw on the new twin turbo is smoother on the one I shoot…enjoy your content very much can’t wait to see what the new bow reviews bring!
@@chasemclarnan7698 It depends, if you like the shorter 30ata then they are both decent. I own a ventum 30 pro and the rx7ultra. I have shot the rx7 alot and it shoots like my ventum in pretty much every way(so I didn’t buy the literal carbon copy) The carbon is a little lighter but both in the 30ata range shoot the same both are great and put out good numbers as far as speed and dead in hand. If you wanted a slightly lighter bow go rx7 all day as it shoots the same but shooting a carbon is a different experience and it costs alot more for it. If you want a bow that’s cheaper and a little heavier go with the aluminum its still going to be a very nice shooter and easier on the wallet.(shorter draw length shooters can appreciate the shorter string angle, my 29.5-30 draw finds a slightly taller bow fits me better, but I still love how fast and accurate my ventum pro 30 can be even at the longer draw length) I enjoy shooting my rx7ultra more though, but it is alot slower sadly. Cheers, and good luck with the bow choices more Hoyts coming out soon as well fyi!
Hoyt strings are notorious for being too fat, and then using fatter center serving material, makes for a very tight-fitting nock. You'd think by now, they would have figured out how to build the perfect bow string diameter for the perfect nock fit. Hell, I've been making strings with 452X and .021" center serving for over 6 years now, and even I have figured it out!
It’s ridiculous for that price !in previous videos he was testing Hoyt torrex xt one and the speed was 330fps now when I bought my torrex xt I didn’t measure speed on my bow cos I didn’t have that gadget but now I can and it shoot 331-333 fps for that price super smooth and super accurate. Hoyt make decent bow best I have but fo 1900 dollars I think Hoyt tip the price out of balance for that price you could have a decent rifle and practice a bit out off a mile away!is like Lamborghini you have dosh 💰 you can have it but you drive with speed limit
That looks pretty rough compared to the other speed bows I've seen this year, especially for not being as fast (as SR350 at least) Question about the thud tho...When you crank it down you gain brace height, would the difference in string stop distance from turning down cause that thud?
Call it splitting hairs, and not worth arguing over, but Sr350's 336 avg is faster than TT's 332 average...for $600 less and a smoother (that's debatable) draw. The ventum pro 33 would be the way to go with Hoyt imo. If I was going to spend 1800+ it would definitely be on the rx7 ultra.
The sr350 shot 10fps slower at first, only after sending him new cams did it compare to the Hoyt. That’s all good when u own a archery shop but let’s be honest, any average person would have never gotten new cams. Not hating, bow tech makes cool stuff but year after year there always seems to be mistakes by them.
The TT from Hoyt’s draw cycle really isn’t very bad. It’s noticeable at the top of the mod (30”) where he has the bow set. Anything under that and it continues to get smoother as you aren’t into the power stroke section of the cam as much. Hope this input helps. Go shoot them all at your local shop and figure out what feels best to you as that’s what matters.
@@eddiebelanger8228 there are other videos of the 350 shooting mid to high 330s. He got a dud I believe. That’s why bowtech wanted it back to inspect. Or, they shot it at 72.5 like it came to jj. He turned it down to 70, I kinda think they got there readings at maxed out. Either way, I shot both bows and the bowtech was night and day easier draw and quieter.
Hey Josh, thanks for the great video! I have a question regarding follow through with back tension shots. I understand everyone is different, but I've noticed some people have very short follow throughs (often traveling a couple inches only), and some have long ones where their hand goes way behind their head. Some may say they shoot back tension, but is it a true back tension shot if you don't follow through behind your head/body? Thanks for your time.
I’d like to see a video of a bow repeatedly being shot on a thermal imaging device I’ve been wondering if limbs and strings develop any heat from being shot. I don’t think it’d be very much but I wonder. Or a speed test of a hot bow vs a cold bow vs moderate temperature bow.
Something the bow companies do when testing speed is shoot a 350 Grain arrow with no vanes. Just putting it out there to anyone not getting advertised speeds.
I sold one of these in my shop not too long ago and we got some very different speeds out of it. 71.4/30 350 grain arrow and we averaged 5 shots 348 through a whisker biscuit. I would guess the bow in the video is severely out of time and tune.
I also got way faster speeds. An average of 342-343 using 2 different chrono's With a D loop attached. But my Chrono's are always at least 10fps faster than what his reads. I own 2.
MFJJ. I’m having tuning issues and need your help not sure if its an arrow spine issue or bow setup. V3x 33 and Rip Xv 250….can you help? Can I call or Email you?
Do they make a better scale than that LCA HS3? Since the accuracy specs aren't published, that leads me to question how accurate it is vs what a multi million archery company might use. For example, the LCA Pro Grain Scale @$40, they make $15 scales that are more accurate. Not trying to nit pick or make excuses for these companies that lie, just honestly curious.
When they talk about vibration lol !!! Try a bow from the 80ths you will feel vibration and how a bow stacks up . Every video I see from this guy he gets way to serious to feel vibration and draw You won’t feel a thing when a animal is right in front you . All the bows are good it’s what comfortable for the person it’s self . And to help when you draw back the bow to test poundage put a arrow in it lol
No its goes to peak weight and stops on that after you get to back wall it has let off from peak weight before you hit the backwall. So the peak weight has already been registered on the scale before you hit the back wall.
I suspect one of the ways the manufacturers cheat on the speed is with a loose nock fit. That being said - I would find it helpful if your speed tests also included a more realistic hunting weight arrow (450 to 550gr) rather than just recreating the IBO test.
I was happy that they didnt can the whole design because ever since they produced it ive loved the look. My RX4 Ultra with turbo cams is still faster then this one but love to see its still alive.
I’ve been running my bear pledge for a few years now. Now I’m finally going to pull the trigger on a high end bow. Your videos have been SO extremely helpful! Especially without pushing any one brand like most other creators. Thank you and keep them coming!
You guys are making great no-nonsense videos and love the content...
Can we get a mid price point bow comparison video and some individual reviews of those bows tested? It's hard to find good mid tier bow reviews that are worth a damn. Keep up the great work.
They already made a video on mid price bows. I think the Hoyt torrex xt won
I always love tuning in to see what you have to say about products. Thanks so much MFJJ!!!
I love your no bs reviews thank you for the info from Australia 🇦🇺
Great and very informative
Always like the info. Can't wait to see your new set up for TAC.
Man! I love the bow. This is the type of archery equipment videos I love. Someone’s WhatsApp keeps going off in the background though.
Hmmm. How about EVO XF?
I was going to ask the same.
Excellent 💫
Would a proper tune change the speed a bit I wonder? I’m pretty sure they tune those bows and shoot them out of a hooter shooter at the factory
Awesome content, keep the vids coming Bo
And thanks for the fast shipping loving these new nockturnal shift nocks!
That Hoyt is making you work. Sweating the draw cycle.
Great video. Keep them coming.
Awesome videos dude, I would like to see your 2022 bow setup!!
New website looks great Josh!
Have you thought about testing and tips for target and 3d bows/setups
Great video 😉
You had me at hello... Might try it on a levitate.
What hand scale do you use? Also what arrow rest did you have on that bow. Love your honest reviews.
Where do I get that shirt?
Thank you for all your reviews really appreciate the insight. I am new to archery. Was wondering if you can do a review on a Bow Smith’s tool set that’s good for someone to have at home
Awsome content. You guys rock on the info your putting! Can you do a video on the new Tight spot shift lock quiver? An if the quiver works with hamskea rest that are not integrate for the v3x
Mr. Joshua Jones! Another awesome video sir. Would you consider this a good bow for hunting?
Little off subject but should you put oil on the axel of a ventum 33. I've burned up a number of bearings in Matthew chill and vxr 31.5s
Hay Josh looks like a fun bow. I'm really keen to see I'd you test out APA innovation King cobra think you will it
I would love to know what your thought are between the Levitate/SR350/Twin Turbo. I figure the Bowtech is the smoother but slow one
I 2nd this, and especially at the price differences between the asR350 and carbon bows...
That thing is quick thanks for the share
MFJJ…. What hinge have you found that compliments the Sigma? IE same anchor point/point of impact ect
Out of curiosity you should try it for speed the way they send them,
Then turn them down to “spec” to see the difference
I have the twin turbo an the draw is smoother than most bows that speed. Way better than pse omen an Bowtech 350. It is a little stiff in the back in but nothing crazy smooth up until the last inch or so. Very similar to my rx5 but just not as smooth all the way threw! Very accurate bow tho sighting it in I broke 4 fletchings an a couple nocks! That’s a good thing people!
What do you guys think about electronic sights like he Garmin a1i series? They are hella expensive, as much as a flagship bow is some cases, but how do they compare if you don’t factor in the price?
Would it be better to do the rx7 at 80 pounds or the twin turbo at 70. 28.5 inch draw. Would the speed be relatively close? Not have such the aggressive pulling cams?
Which are the other fast bows you would compare this one to?
Awesome video, best review out there IMO. What’s your pick for a carbon bow this year Josh?
best content
Why would one choose the turbo over the RX7? What application would cause you to choose a turbo over the standard RX7
Love my Rx4 turbo
Man that looked rough! I shot a twin turbo with a 450 grain arrow at 28 inches and 29 and didn’t think the draw was as bad as that looked. Fps were better as well. Im seeing 10fps faster than my Ventum 30 pro both at 29.5 80 let off 70lbs. Ventum is noticeably smoother throughout but not by much. That looked like you had to rip it back, Im far from a pro but the draw on the new twin turbo is smoother on the one I shoot…enjoy your content very much can’t wait to see what the new bow reviews bring!
Hello just wondering ur thoughts on the ventum and the rx7 ,I have a elite and plan on selling at the end of season
@@chasemclarnan7698 It depends, if you like the shorter 30ata then they are both decent. I own a ventum 30 pro and the rx7ultra. I have shot the rx7 alot and it shoots like my ventum in pretty much every way(so I didn’t buy the literal carbon copy) The carbon is a little lighter but both in the 30ata range shoot the same both are great and put out good numbers as far as speed and dead in hand. If you wanted a slightly lighter bow go rx7 all day as it shoots the same but shooting a carbon is a different experience and it costs alot more for it. If you want a bow that’s cheaper and a little heavier go with the aluminum its still going to be a very nice shooter and easier on the wallet.(shorter draw length shooters can appreciate the shorter string angle, my 29.5-30 draw finds a slightly taller bow fits me better, but I still love how fast and accurate my ventum pro 30 can be even at the longer draw length) I enjoy shooting my rx7ultra more though, but it is alot slower sadly. Cheers, and good luck with the bow choices more Hoyts coming out soon as well fyi!
Thanks for sharing such non biased content, I mean that bow is fast but isn’t it just an RX-5 from last year with heavier limbs and a different cam?
Yes. They recycled the riser from the RX-5.
Would taking out the limb dampers increase the speed, and how much would you figure??
I think more need to do speed test shooting 60lbs and 28 inch type draws probably more common
Do you have a spreadsheet with all the bow info in one spot?
Best speed bow. Comparison of expedite nxt, hoyt turbo, sr350 bowtech and any others that hit that 350 ibo or plus.
Hoyt strings are notorious for being too fat, and then using fatter center serving material, makes for a very tight-fitting nock. You'd think by now, they would have figured out how to build the perfect bow string diameter for the perfect nock fit. Hell, I've been making strings with 452X and .021" center serving for over 6 years now, and even I have figured it out!
Love to get mfjj opinion video on gas bow strings. I have em like em so far
Wasn't the levitate a bit faster at 335fps?
It’s ridiculous for that price !in previous videos he was testing Hoyt torrex xt one and the speed was 330fps now when I bought my torrex xt I didn’t measure speed on my bow cos I didn’t have that gadget but now I can and it shoot 331-333 fps for that price super smooth and super accurate. Hoyt make decent bow best I have but fo 1900 dollars I think Hoyt tip the price out of balance for that price you could have a decent rifle and practice a bit out off a mile away!is like Lamborghini you have dosh 💰 you can have it but you drive with speed limit
That looks pretty rough compared to the other speed bows I've seen this year, especially for not being as fast (as SR350 at least) Question about the thud tho...When you crank it down you gain brace height, would the difference in string stop distance from turning down cause that thud?
It’s the exact same speed as the sr350 tho.
Call it splitting hairs, and not worth arguing over, but Sr350's 336 avg is faster than TT's 332 average...for $600 less and a smoother (that's debatable) draw. The ventum pro 33 would be the way to go with Hoyt imo. If I was going to spend 1800+ it would definitely be on the rx7 ultra.
The sr350 shot 10fps slower at first, only after sending him new cams did it compare to the Hoyt. That’s all good when u own a archery shop but let’s be honest, any average person would have never gotten new cams. Not hating, bow tech makes cool stuff but year after year there always seems to be mistakes by them.
The TT from Hoyt’s draw cycle really isn’t very bad. It’s noticeable at the top of the mod (30”) where he has the bow set. Anything under that and it continues to get smoother as you aren’t into the power stroke section of the cam as much. Hope this input helps. Go shoot them all at your local shop and figure out what feels best to you as that’s what matters.
@@eddiebelanger8228 there are other videos of the 350 shooting mid to high 330s. He got a dud I believe. That’s why bowtech wanted it back to inspect. Or, they shot it at 72.5 like it came to jj. He turned it down to 70, I kinda think they got there readings at maxed out. Either way, I shot both bows and the bowtech was night and day easier draw and quieter.
How would this bow speed at 70lbs compare to the RX7 at 80lbs? Using the same arrow.
What is it these days with 70&80 lb bows
Hey Josh, thanks for the great video!
I have a question regarding follow through with back tension shots. I understand everyone is different, but I've noticed some people have very short follow throughs (often traveling a couple inches only), and some have long ones where their hand goes way behind their head. Some may say they shoot back tension, but is it a true back tension shot if you don't follow through behind your head/body? Thanks for your time.
Some ppl are lying to themselves thinking they have back tension when they do the exaggerated follow through.
Email on your website doesn’t work. Was trying to get ahold of you for an arrow build.
Yea I tried as well
I’d like to see a video of a bow repeatedly being shot on a thermal imaging device I’ve been wondering if limbs and strings develop any heat from being shot. I don’t think it’d be very much but I wonder. Or a speed test of a hot bow vs a cold bow vs moderate temperature bow.
So TT or 80# RX-7?
Something the bow companies do when testing speed is shoot a 350
Grain arrow with no vanes. Just putting it out there to anyone not getting advertised speeds.
Monster wake?
Josh im going to need to you move your store to missouri please and thank you
Great vid Bro thanks
Thanks for all you do! Easton sonic 6.0 please 🙏
I sold one of these in my shop not too long ago and we got some very different speeds out of it. 71.4/30 350 grain arrow and we averaged 5 shots 348 through a whisker biscuit. I would guess the bow in the video is severely out of time and tune.
I also got way faster speeds. An average of 342-343 using 2 different chrono's With a D loop attached. But my Chrono's are always at least 10fps faster than what his reads. I own 2.
His chrono is 10 fps slower then everyone's.
MFJJ. I’m having tuning issues and need your help not sure if its an arrow spine issue or bow setup. V3x 33 and Rip Xv 250….can you help? Can I call or Email you?
Do they make a better scale than that LCA HS3? Since the accuracy specs aren't published, that leads me to question how accurate it is vs what a multi million archery company might use. For example, the LCA Pro Grain Scale @$40, they make $15 scales that are more accurate. Not trying to nit pick or make excuses for these companies that lie, just honestly curious.
When they talk about vibration lol !!! Try a bow from the 80ths you will feel vibration and how a bow stacks up . Every video I see from this guy he gets way to serious to feel vibration and draw You won’t feel a thing when a animal is right in front you . All the bows are good it’s what comfortable for the person it’s self . And to help when you draw back the bow to test poundage put a arrow in it lol
What release are you using?
He's using the Scott Sigma.
It's possible your scale is spiking a few pounds when you bang into the back wall. Appreciate you and the channel a ton!
No its goes to peak weight and stops on that after you get to back wall it has let off from peak weight before you hit the backwall. So the peak weight has already been registered on the scale before you hit the back wall.
With those speeds I might as well stick my rx4 turbo.
I had same problem rx 1 turbo made a lot noise could not stop it trying everything
hmm, what's up with Hoyt..not the first time they've been sloooow this year..
I suspect one of the ways the manufacturers cheat on the speed is with a loose nock fit.
That being said - I would find it helpful if your speed tests also included a more realistic hunting weight arrow (450 to 550gr) rather than just recreating the IBO test.
I think that’s kinda what the ATA standard is
Finally a thumbnail where it doesn’t look like he’s making love to the bow..
Does nobody else hate seeing a bow drawn back with no arrow like me?? That's the time something goes wrong
Fast as my torrex xt ld😃
$1900.00 for a bow is ludicrous! I don’t care what it does or what it’s made of.
100%
Shoot a Obsession 3T
Gesundheit
The levitate was 336/336 and is not a speed bow sooooo 🙄
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335fps before I see the first shot.
for 1800 they can keep that turd
Hoyt are scammers - 330 fps , instead 350 fps.
All turbo models are unforgiving unfortunately
nope
It's sad what they did to true archery get back to a real man's bow back to traditional been shooting for 62 years don't need training wheels
Slow
Josh can you please answer my questions on Instagram about my Hoyt RX7 ULTRA ? and do a RUclips on the Hoyt TORREX Package 🙏Thank's Marty 🙌
I was happy that they didnt can the whole design because ever since they produced it ive loved the look. My RX4 Ultra with turbo cams is still faster then this one but love to see its still alive.