Completely off topic but I just watched one of your videos on the Axcel Landslyde which I'm debating with the new Option Canyon Pounder. Any thoughts on the Canyon?
Love your content! Was curious if you could give some insight on adjusting the bows string stop gap/no gap. I saw a video of yours recently where you had about an 1/8 inch gap between the string and the stop. Just curious on your views on this subject if any. Thanks!
😂 funny you said we started to only carry solid colors and there is a camo Hoyt behind you. I like the look of that bow but it looks like a Hoyt with PSE stickers lol. Great video though, really enjoy all your stuff.
I really like the looks of that bow. I’m wondering how many years before bow manufactures all go to the the pic rail or bridge lock. I’m not sure if Mathews has a trademark on the bridge lock or even if that’s possible but in the next few years I would guess most companies would be offering one of these choices or both.
@@l.i.archer5379 bridge lock system is far from gimmicky. This system was initially for the dovetail sight. The dovetail sight is awesome. As far as the stabilizer goes it’s a pretty sweet setup with the way it works. Over priced of course. That doesn’t take away how nice it is and the overall functionality of it.
For other bows that do have C-clips, do you think that orienting the open end of the C-Clip out would prevent it from flicking off with shooting? I am doing this now. For C-clips that rotate during a session I add a small dab of blue Loctite.
Maybe you can help, where can I buy a set of PSE evolve E2 cams with the modules and yolkes. I wouldn't mind the S2 or just the EC cams cause the E2 is a tough draw. My XF30 exploded while shooting, I believe the failure was with the roller guard. Think the screw holding the roller guard was loose and backed out. The roller guard and arm cam off but the top cam is destroyed and the yolkes are gone, no idea where they ended up. No response from PSE and can't find anything online on where to buy them. Thanks if you can help
And PSE won’t sell you different cams than what was on the bow when you bought it. They’ll ask for the serial number when you order cams and send you what matches the bow
@@InsideOutPrecision the limbs are fine and the bottom cam is fine. Top cam is damaged and yokes are gone. But if I'm replacing top cam I need to replace the bottom. The modules appear to be good . I've got a new set of cables and strings. I just need the cams, maybe be safe to get new modules as well. I don't know what happened. It's a fairly new bow. I got it new at the first of February. I wasn't the original buyer. I bought it from someone who ended up buying a Phase 4 ,they never shot it. It still had the tag on it. I've shot it almost daily since Ive had and never any sign of a problem.
It happened when I fired the bow ,not on the draw. I know alot of people derail on the draw but this wasn't a derail. When I fired the bow the arrow ended up at my feet. A few people have told me the arrow may have been cracked at the nock of the nock itself was compromised.
Dude you're crazy he's he's just stating if a person cannot hold steady without it then he will not hold steady with it not singling out you. Might not want to walk through life half-cocked all the time. Maybe Bruce Lee taught you?
@@trackhoehunter2544 He could have said, "If one can't hold steady....", but he didn't. The FDS system is a major selling point of the new PSE line, but nobody has explained how it works. He completely avoided this question with a snarky response.
@@drmitofit2673 sorry, wasn’t that aimed at you personally, I meant it in the general sense of “you”. The full draw stability actually has nothing to do with how the bow holds, it has to do with the amount torque that is induced when the cam breaks over. They’re definitely a stable bow, but not because of the FDS specifically.
Pse.....yawn.... sorry but personal opinion is they are simply in the past..especially when you see flagship price.. The carbon pse is pretty great I'll admit that but the rest are simply boring
@@muleybuckco roller guards, binary with adjustable let off and rotating module, picatinny sight mount, integrated rest mount, carbon and aluminum models, multiple cam options, shims that are easy to change… other than Bowtech and elite, that’s all the same technology any other brand name bow has.
@@InsideOutPrecision exactly, chasing what's already been done, Hoyt and Mathews are way ahead in terms of tec, no, I'm not partial to either by any means, I'm just saying nothing new from pse elite ect, just chasing the big boys.. this conversation could go on for ever, ya know, ford dodge chevy ect lol.
@@InsideOutPrecision I do appreciate the good, clean, back and fourth conversation with you. Kudos to you, you have a great channel. I will say, with Pete running the show again, and getting guys like Dudley and Pig man in, pse is getting back to being a top contender, but for me,as I have said personal opinion, they just are not on my radar
These new PSEs have static yokes criss-crossing that yoke spreader. That means you can twist the yokes again to get the cams to lean for perfect tuning. No need to change shims on these bows.
Actually there is a huge need to change the shims. If you’re tearing .5” or more to the right or left the yokes won’t help. Shim the cams then use the yokes to take out any minor tears
You could twist the yokes and adjust the rest. This would be the easier thing to do than to take the cams to change shims when the simper solution would probably work. Also, not a lot of people keep shim kits with ~20 different sizes of shims, and for different axle diameters. like I do.
@@optimuscrime608 you're out of your mind. I've twisted yokes on bows with 1.5" tears and they tuned perfectly. Granted, these were standard yokes on the outside of the limbs, and the PSEs have them straddling the cams, but there's plenty of room to twist the yokes to lean the cams before they cams start contacting the yokes. Of course, you wouldn't want to see excessive cam lean either, but you can always adjust the rest after twisting the yokes a reasonable amount.
How’s this draw cycle compared to the ss34 bowtech?
My pse fortis 33 e2 at 28.5/65#
380gr 296 fps
420gr 285 fps
Hi - what stabilizer are you using? Thanks
I just take the handle off I want to feel it I know it's not near as comfortable I want that in my hand in the same spot every time
Can you do the speed test with the s2 cam?
You are amongst the best reviewers! Please keep ‘em coming👍
I want to see a review on the new shootdown pro if you guys get any in
Completely off topic but I just watched one of your videos on the Axcel Landslyde which I'm debating with the new Option Canyon Pounder. Any thoughts on the Canyon?
Love your content! Was curious if you could give some insight on adjusting the bows string stop gap/no gap. I saw a video of yours recently where you had about an 1/8 inch gap between the string and the stop. Just curious on your views on this subject if any. Thanks!
We need a Fortis vs Phase 4 side by side… Ok I need it, my local pro shop doesn’t have the Fortis yet.
Great video. Possible nock difference on heavy arrow causing low speed readings?
Congrats for your composure dealing with both the internet archers, and drama queens. 👏
Looking for a new bow and honestly PSE might win. They knocked it out of the park this year
Pse head always been very late to the game with accessories imo
Id really like to see you do an PSE Omen review. Mostly for the speed test, but id like your opinion on it
How does the string angle compare to the evl 34? I have a 31"draw
Love this channel it's great how u always answer ppls question's
Exact one I have on order right now... Can't wait to get it in !
Always good to watch a new inside out precision video!
What limb dampers are on this bow I haven’t been able to find a good damper for my wide limb xf33
PSE makes them
Sick bow!
😂 funny you said we started to only carry solid colors and there is a camo Hoyt behind you.
I like the look of that bow but it looks like a Hoyt with PSE stickers lol. Great video though, really enjoy all your stuff.
Haha yeah and that’s last years model, still hasn’t sold, hence why we mainly ordered solid colors this year!
Don't see how in the world it could look like a Hoyt with PSE stickers
I really like the looks of that bow. I’m wondering how many years before bow manufactures all go to the the pic rail or bridge lock. I’m not sure if Mathews has a trademark on the bridge lock or even if that’s possible but in the next few years I would guess most companies would be offering one of these choices or both.
The bridgelock system is gimmicky, unnecessary, and a total waste of money. Are you willing to pay $750 for a Mathews bridgelock stabilizer system?
@@l.i.archer5379 bridge lock system is far from gimmicky. This system was initially for the dovetail sight. The dovetail sight is awesome. As far as the stabilizer goes it’s a pretty sweet setup with the way it works. Over priced of course. That doesn’t take away how nice it is and the overall functionality of it.
Copying Hoyt technology, nice 😂
If you’re referring to the picatinny mount, it’s not really Hoyt technology. Been on guns for years! The cam systems are entirely different
For other bows that do have C-clips, do you think that orienting the open end of the C-Clip out would prevent it from flicking off with shooting? I am doing this now. For C-clips that rotate during a session I add a small dab of blue Loctite.
They don’t fall off from shooting. The get bumped off in the field
Don’t Loc tite them! Makes it sooo hard to get them off with out bending them
@@InsideOutPrecision Prove it. Hard to imagine a C-clip with the open face oriented out would ever come off in the field or while shooting.
What was the stabilizer you were running on there?
It’s a Stealth 10”. The owners of G4 make them
Great review as always
Maybe you can help, where can I buy a set of PSE evolve E2 cams with the modules and yolkes. I wouldn't mind the S2 or just the EC cams cause the E2 is a tough draw. My XF30 exploded while shooting, I believe the failure was with the roller guard. Think the screw holding the roller guard was loose and backed out. The roller guard and arm cam off but the top cam is destroyed and the yolkes are gone, no idea where they ended up. No response from PSE and can't find anything online on where to buy them. Thanks if you can help
You can buy news cams, but you’ll need new strings and limbs as well. The limb deflections and string lengths are all cam specific.
And PSE won’t sell you different cams than what was on the bow when you bought it. They’ll ask for the serial number when you order cams and send you what matches the bow
The roller guard didn’t fail, it was just a product of the explosion. Are either of your limbs broken?
@@InsideOutPrecision the limbs are fine and the bottom cam is fine. Top cam is damaged and yokes are gone. But if I'm replacing top cam I need to replace the bottom. The modules appear to be good . I've got a new set of cables and strings. I just need the cams, maybe be safe to get new modules as well. I don't know what happened. It's a fairly new bow. I got it new at the first of February. I wasn't the original buyer. I bought it from someone who ended up buying a Phase 4 ,they never shot it. It still had the tag on it. I've shot it almost daily since Ive had and never any sign of a problem.
It happened when I fired the bow ,not on the draw. I know alot of people derail on the draw but this wasn't a derail. When I fired the bow the arrow ended up at my feet. A few people have told me the arrow may have been cracked at the nock of the nock itself was compromised.
Is the claimed Full Draw Stability system (FDS) a real improvement in hold geometry or just marketing hype?
If you can’t hold steady without it, you won’t hold steady with it.
@@InsideOutPrecision One, your uninformed comment is not helpful. Two, how do you know my technique isn't better than yours?
Dude you're crazy he's he's just stating if a person cannot hold steady without it then he will not hold steady with it not singling out you. Might not want to walk through life half-cocked all the time. Maybe Bruce Lee taught you?
@@trackhoehunter2544 He could have said, "If one can't hold steady....", but he didn't. The FDS system is a major selling point of the new PSE line, but nobody has explained how it works. He completely avoided this question with a snarky response.
@@drmitofit2673 sorry, wasn’t that aimed at you personally, I meant it in the general sense of “you”. The full draw stability actually has nothing to do with how the bow holds, it has to do with the amount torque that is induced when the cam breaks over. They’re definitely a stable bow, but not because of the FDS specifically.
Pse.....yawn.... sorry but personal opinion is they are simply in the past..especially when you see flagship price.. The carbon pse is pretty great I'll admit that but the rest are simply boring
I mean they have the same technology as every other major brand haha….
@@InsideOutPrecision not even close lol....
@@muleybuckco roller guards, binary with adjustable let off and rotating module, picatinny sight mount, integrated rest mount, carbon and aluminum models, multiple cam options, shims that are easy to change… other than Bowtech and elite, that’s all the same technology any other brand name bow has.
@@InsideOutPrecision exactly, chasing what's already been done, Hoyt and Mathews are way ahead in terms of tec, no, I'm not partial to either by any means, I'm just saying nothing new from pse elite ect, just chasing the big boys.. this conversation could go on for ever, ya know, ford dodge chevy ect lol.
@@InsideOutPrecision I do appreciate the good, clean, back and fourth conversation with you. Kudos to you, you have a great channel. I will say, with Pete running the show again, and getting guys like Dudley and Pig man in, pse is getting back to being a top contender, but for me,as I have said personal opinion, they just are not on my radar
These new PSEs have static yokes criss-crossing that yoke spreader. That means you can twist the yokes again to get the cams to lean for perfect tuning. No need to change shims on these bows.
Actually there is a huge need to change the shims. If you’re tearing .5” or more to the right or left the yokes won’t help. Shim the cams then use the yokes to take out any minor tears
Do not listen to this guy lol. please shim your cams before you ever decide to touch the yokes. unless your tear is crazy small.
You could twist the yokes and adjust the rest. This would be the easier thing to do than to take the cams to change shims when the simper solution would probably work. Also, not a lot of people keep shim kits with ~20 different sizes of shims, and for different axle diameters. like I do.
@@optimuscrime608 you're out of your mind. I've twisted yokes on bows with 1.5" tears and they tuned perfectly. Granted, these were standard yokes on the outside of the limbs, and the PSEs have them straddling the cams, but there's plenty of room to twist the yokes to lean the cams before they cams start contacting the yokes. Of course, you wouldn't want to see excessive cam lean either, but you can always adjust the rest after twisting the yokes a reasonable amount.
With the new shim system it takes less time to shim it than twist the yokes
What are the negatives of shooting a right hand bow left handed?
@@GardenArcher7625 😄