Fun fact about the holster. You can actually run a belt through the top diagonal slots of the holster to turn the drop leg into a waist holster. I’ve been having good experiences with using it that way at my local games over using it as a drop leg holster. edit: also regarding the mag release. In my experience with the blaster I actually found the easiest way to hit it was to reach around with my trigger finger. Not the most standard way to do so, but it worked for me through the FPT. Mag release seems to be the one universal complaint everyone has about this blaster. edit2: another thing, though you can load 7 darts in each magazine I wouldn’t recomend it. That’s because thanks to the feed lips you can actually swap out the mags without priming the blaster backwards and hot swap mags. However if you do this while 7 darts are loaded in the new mag they can get crushed. I’d probably consider it a 6+1 capacity blaster instead of a 6 or 7.
I've enjoyed the MK2.1 but it is cheaper feeling than the original MK2. Not sure if I recommend it for the price but overall it does what it advertises.
The mag release is perfect for lefties like me! A part of me takes some malicious joy an seeing right handers suffer for once- but also I sympathise with how much of a pain awkward ergo is
It is pretty good for lefties! I ran it at last weekend's game and it worked well. I even wore the holster on my belt at the back so my left hand could reach. - Perry
I'm a big fan of the mk2.1. i loved the mk2 a lot as well but the ease of swapping mags when still being able to top it up on the fly makes the 2.1 leagues better. having a dart in the chamber when swapping out a mag has also saved me in the past, something that's impossible with the mk2. it really ensures that there's never a situation in which your opponent can safely rush you. it's definitely a pocket primary though as opposed to a dedicated secondary. the holster kind of sucks and the size of it makes it a little strange to carry on the hip.
Luke, do you like this or the Fire Rat better personally? I know this hits harder which could be a good thing or a bad thing. Not considering the price though, which do you prefer?
They're almost two different categories of blaster. The Mk-2.1 is a better close quarters primary, but I would prefer the more compact Fire Rat as a secondary.
Love the firerat! It hits harder with the extended barrel & upgraded spring + with the extended barrel i put an orange bcar on it for safety & much better accuracy. You have more capacity per mag & can even take 15rd nightingale mags with a slight mod. Firerat is definitely a more capable primary
The Fire Rat's are actually available here in Aus, but I really struggle with the design. It just looks way too realistic for me. I know the colours do the heavy lifting, but still. I thought similar about the Mk-2 and like that the 2.1 has gone more sci-fi.
I really enjoy my MK 2.1, but I do need to get it under 150 FPS and I do not see the mentioned lower power spring. Is a less powerful spring still coming for the MK 2.1?
I have one. I really like it. But I just plink around the house with it. I've never played competitively. Highly recommend as a plinker though. Really accurate. 😁🔫
I think I still would want to run the mk 2 as a primary. The biggest difference, for me, is the performance. It seems the mk 2.1 only hits around 10 FPS higher, and it's much bigger. I'm fine having an internal mag with speed loaders if I get a much smaller blaster.
I also cannot reach the mag release on the 2.1, it the same for me either rotate my hand or hit it with my other hand. I think it’s great for the hobby to have a side arm that you can buy and use right out of the box.
How the naming scheme seems to work so far, in case you were confused: When a DZP blaster is named Mk X.Y, the X value indicates the type of blaster, and the Y value indicates the design iteration. An X value of 1 is for primary-class pump action springers with an AR-type form factor, 2 is for secondary-class pistols, and 3 is for primary-class flywheelers. The Y value's count starts at 0 rather than 1, so that's why the Mk 2.0 is the first Mk 2.Y blaster, and this second blaster is the Mk 2.1. With all this in mind, I wonder if Dart Zone would ever make a Pro Mk 4 in the future, and what type of blaster that would be...
It depends on what games you're attending, and what you want to use it for. The Mk-2 is great as a secondary, where you leave it primed on your hip ready in case your primary jams for any reason. The 2.1 is better as a compact springer primary for close-quarters battles, where that is one of the blasters you use and nothing else.
If they make this internal with the moving plunger tube and magazine lips for a platform like the nexus pro, that thing will be a beast. The plunger tube will be bigger since it goes all the way to the dart gate and you can insert the magazine without pulling the priming handle back.
It has to travel back and forth though. Say the plunger tube's 4" long, and moves forward 1", you don't really get more tube. Because then it has to be able to go back that 1" and fit in the rear again. The main advantage is minimising dead space I'd guess.
I do like it, but ultimately the proprietary mags are a deal-breaker for me. Or, at the least, they are for now... Since I wouldn't run it as a primary in the games I play in I'd generally be carrying another mag-fed blaster as well; and while it's doable, carrying two magazine types just sounds like a recipe for many minor frustrations. My stance could certainly change if more blasters come out that use these mags, though, and everything in my kit used them.
I have very small hands (for an adult), my thumb is at least an inch off the mag release. I can barely stretch and get to the mag release on the nightingale, but that one is also pretty easy to get to with the middle finger.
have this blaster and for my first mag-in grip blaster it was a nice start. in regards to the mage release I am used to airsoft side arms like the mk23 which have a similar grip. My personal solution has always been to rotate the blaster into my thumb to release since my hand is already there. hope this helps and keep flinging foam.
We actually sell eye pro on the shop in adult sizes! outofdarts.com/products/eye-protection-safety-glasses-great-for-shop-and-gameplay-use-clear-or-smoke There are also eye protection options that fit around prescription glasses available at most hardware stores.
@@outofdarts Awesome. If I ever go crazy and buy one of the bigger items from the store I'll be sure to pick it up. 21 CDN for shipping a 3 CDN item is a bit much however. Much appreciated though.
7:00 The performance of this blaster is pretty good for it's size, but it is outclassed performance-wise pretty easily by community designs of a similar or even smaller size.
You going to be reviewing the Tomcat anytime soon? I can't wait to see your thoughts on it, as well as hear what types of mods and parts your going to end up making for it because it is AMAZING
Mag Release Miss I feel like, trying to replicate a real pistol button mag release was a mistake here. Due to the larger grip (darts are bigger than bullets) a button release is not as practical . Your Thumb can't reach it as you would on a firearm. In fact for the 2.1 if you hold it wrong handed, you can reach the mag release easily with your index finger. So I'm thinking a good solution would have been to reverse the button to the right side. Tell people to index finger it. -this abandons the firearm 'manual of arms', but would work better for this situation. And even better fix would be to do a 'euro' style paddle mag release (lever at the base of trigger guard). Those you're meant to hit with index finger, fixing the reach issues. and are ambidextrous....
muzzle device standards I did notice, that for the new blasters this season the diameter appears to be slightly larger. old muzzle attachments are loose in the new blasters and the new attachments are tight in old blasters bummer
I've been on the fence about this one, but I'm probably going to take the plunge. If I were playing a pistols only round, this is what I would choose, but as part of a loadout, I can't see it replacing my 2.0. Very different use cases, it really should have been called the Mark 4.0.
I truly don't understand your rating for this one. Proprietary mags, cycling issues, ergo issues, accessory fitment issues, excessive FPS... this is a 2.5/5 at best. Cool, they tried to upgrade over the Mk-2 but they failed to make anything better, they just made it...more.`
Fun fact about the holster. You can actually run a belt through the top diagonal slots of the holster to turn the drop leg into a waist holster. I’ve been having good experiences with using it that way at my local games over using it as a drop leg holster.
edit: also regarding the mag release. In my experience with the blaster I actually found the easiest way to hit it was to reach around with my trigger finger. Not the most standard way to do so, but it worked for me through the FPT. Mag release seems to be the one universal complaint everyone has about this blaster.
edit2: another thing, though you can load 7 darts in each magazine I wouldn’t recomend it. That’s because thanks to the feed lips you can actually swap out the mags without priming the blaster backwards and hot swap mags. However if you do this while 7 darts are loaded in the new mag they can get crushed. I’d probably consider it a 6+1 capacity blaster instead of a 6 or 7.
I've enjoyed the MK2.1 but it is cheaper feeling than the original MK2. Not sure if I recommend it for the price but overall it does what it advertises.
And it doesn't even look like a snake.
The mag release is perfect for lefties like me!
A part of me takes some malicious joy an seeing right handers suffer for once- but also I sympathise with how much of a pain awkward ergo is
It is pretty good for lefties! I ran it at last weekend's game and it worked well. I even wore the holster on my belt at the back so my left hand could reach. - Perry
@@outofdarts ur awesome
I'm a big fan of the mk2.1. i loved the mk2 a lot as well but the ease of swapping mags when still being able to top it up on the fly makes the 2.1 leagues better. having a dart in the chamber when swapping out a mag has also saved me in the past, something that's impossible with the mk2. it really ensures that there's never a situation in which your opponent can safely rush you. it's definitely a pocket primary though as opposed to a dedicated secondary. the holster kind of sucks and the size of it makes it a little strange to carry on the hip.
I had been waiting for this review. I def need to buy this blaster. Nice camera work with the feed lips. 😁
Luke, do you like this or the Fire Rat better personally? I know this hits harder which could be a good thing or a bad thing. Not considering the price though, which do you prefer?
They're almost two different categories of blaster. The Mk-2.1 is a better close quarters primary, but I would prefer the more compact Fire Rat as a secondary.
Love the firerat! It hits harder with the extended barrel & upgraded spring + with the extended barrel i put an orange bcar on it for safety & much better accuracy. You have more capacity per mag & can even take 15rd nightingale mags with a slight mod. Firerat is definitely a more capable primary
The Fire Rat's are actually available here in Aus, but I really struggle with the design. It just looks way too realistic for me. I know the colours do the heavy lifting, but still. I thought similar about the Mk-2 and like that the 2.1 has gone more sci-fi.
I really enjoy my MK 2.1, but I do need to get it under 150 FPS and I do not see the mentioned lower power spring. Is a less powerful spring still coming for the MK 2.1?
I have one. I really like it. But I just plink around the house with it. I've never played competitively. Highly recommend as a plinker though. Really accurate. 😁🔫
I think I would stick to mk 2.
I personally love mk 2's design and reload method more.
I think I still would want to run the mk 2 as a primary. The biggest difference, for me, is the performance. It seems the mk 2.1 only hits around 10 FPS higher, and it's much bigger. I'm fine having an internal mag with speed loaders if I get a much smaller blaster.
Can't wait to see your review of the GameFace Trion!! It is releasing soon hopefully! Should be a game changer.
Looking forward to getting our hands on one soon!
I also cannot reach the mag release on the 2.1, it the same for me either rotate my hand or hit it with my other hand. I think it’s great for the hobby to have a side arm that you can buy and use right out of the box.
How the naming scheme seems to work so far, in case you were confused:
When a DZP blaster is named Mk X.Y, the X value indicates the type of blaster, and the Y value indicates the design iteration. An X value of 1 is for primary-class pump action springers with an AR-type form factor, 2 is for secondary-class pistols, and 3 is for primary-class flywheelers. The Y value's count starts at 0 rather than 1, so that's why the Mk 2.0 is the first Mk 2.Y blaster, and this second blaster is the Mk 2.1.
With all this in mind, I wonder if Dart Zone would ever make a Pro Mk 4 in the future, and what type of blaster that would be...
I'm a young nerfer(under 13 if you need specifics here im 12) b ut anyways I am torn wether i should get the 2 or the 2.1
It depends on what games you're attending, and what you want to use it for. The Mk-2 is great as a secondary, where you leave it primed on your hip ready in case your primary jams for any reason. The 2.1 is better as a compact springer primary for close-quarters battles, where that is one of the blasters you use and nothing else.
Will you still be selling the barely used nightingale's at a discount? Ive been holding out for that sale lol.
I'm afraid they sold out within a day of us putting up the listing earlier in the summer.
Who knew so much power could be in such a little package?
Hoping they don't Discontinue the MK2
its significantly smaller than the 2.1
having both, I still prefer the older 2 for the convenience
If they make this internal with the moving plunger tube and magazine lips for a platform like the nexus pro, that thing will be a beast. The plunger tube will be bigger since it goes all the way to the dart gate and you can insert the magazine without pulling the priming handle back.
It has to travel back and forth though. Say the plunger tube's 4" long, and moves forward 1", you don't really get more tube. Because then it has to be able to go back that 1" and fit in the rear again.
The main advantage is minimising dead space I'd guess.
@@Stevenwave- yeah i thought about that as well recently
Please tell me you will be making a video on the slab soon, I need some slab in my life.
Meow
Thank you for all you do for the community and hobby, you are a great ambassador 😀.
I do like it, but ultimately the proprietary mags are a deal-breaker for me. Or, at the least, they are for now... Since I wouldn't run it as a primary in the games I play in I'd generally be carrying another mag-fed blaster as well; and while it's doable, carrying two magazine types just sounds like a recipe for many minor frustrations. My stance could certainly change if more blasters come out that use these mags, though, and everything in my kit used them.
Thank you in advance. I need a low power spring to get mine under the local 120 Hvz caps.
I have very small hands (for an adult), my thumb is at least an inch off the mag release. I can barely stretch and get to the mag release on the nightingale, but that one is also pretty easy to get to with the middle finger.
Brandon Diaz figured out that you can keep your thumb straight and tilt the front of the blaster with your offhand to hit the mag release.
have this blaster and for my first mag-in grip blaster it was a nice start. in regards to the mage release I am used to airsoft side arms like the mk23 which have a similar grip. My personal solution has always been to rotate the blaster into my thumb to release since my hand is already there.
hope this helps and keep flinging foam.
With the added muzzle you can shoot rival rounds, ultra rounds, and mega rounds!
What eye protection does Luke recommend for adult sized faces?
We actually sell eye pro on the shop in adult sizes!
outofdarts.com/products/eye-protection-safety-glasses-great-for-shop-and-gameplay-use-clear-or-smoke
There are also eye protection options that fit around prescription glasses available at most hardware stores.
@@outofdarts Awesome. If I ever go crazy and buy one of the bigger items from the store I'll be sure to pick it up. 21 CDN for shipping a 3 CDN item is a bit much however.
Much appreciated though.
I'd love to see a scar barrel/custom mag release for this blaster 😔
7:00 The performance of this blaster is pretty good for it's size, but it is outclassed performance-wise pretty easily by community designs of a similar or even smaller size.
Yeah but it's also 100 dollars cheaper than the community made blasters
@@selbyhoney1451 hard disagree.
@@Sillybutts what is a cheaper option if you don’t mind me asking? You say that but a lot of hobbyist blasters like this can run you up to $200
@@robopenguin5501 the SPAMF and my own SillyPistol both come to mind. Mine sells for 100, same as this. The SPAMF is even less iirc.
...so, is it really better than a Gecko?
You going to be reviewing the Tomcat anytime soon? I can't wait to see your thoughts on it, as well as hear what types of mods and parts your going to end up making for it because it is AMAZING
I have a MK2 hit 180fps with a bearing scar... but the new version is just too chonky for my liking.
Mag Release Miss
I feel like, trying to replicate a real pistol button mag release was a mistake here. Due to the larger grip (darts are bigger than bullets) a button release is not as practical . Your Thumb can't reach it as you would on a firearm.
In fact for the 2.1 if you hold it wrong handed, you can reach the mag release easily with your index finger. So I'm thinking a good solution would have been to reverse the button to the right side. Tell people to index finger it. -this abandons the firearm 'manual of arms', but would work better for this situation.
And even better fix would be to do a 'euro' style paddle mag release (lever at the base of trigger guard). Those you're meant to hit with index finger, fixing the reach issues. and are ambidextrous....
No mods yet :(
Just noticed- The silicone grip is glued in huh? That's a shame because that will make painting or dipping this blaster a nightmare.
muzzle device standards
I did notice, that for the new blasters this season the diameter appears to be slightly larger.
old muzzle attachments are loose in the new blasters
and the new attachments are tight in old blasters
bummer
I've been on the fence about this one, but I'm probably going to take the plunge. If I were playing a pistols only round, this is what I would choose, but as part of a loadout, I can't see it replacing my 2.0. Very different use cases, it really should have been called the Mark 4.0.
Hey luck I tried but I have to readjust or use other hand for the mag release.
Have you tried the S200s Viper yet?
What is the 1-star deduction for?
What do you mean?
He explained thoroughly in the video...
Are you ever going to review the Zinc 2.0?
I can hit the mag release. This blaster is dope!
The nightingale is way better.
The two are totally different beasts.
What color is that print at 6:40
I would love to get more accessories to match darty zone grey
I think that's our Second to None Silver. It's a custom color made for us from Proto-Pasta.
@@outofdarts That is *not* the silver listed on the site, correct?
@@WilhelmScreamer it *is* the one on the site.
@@outofdarts excellent, thank you so much
Where can I get this ?
He said it is an Amazon exclusive.
I truly don't understand your rating for this one. Proprietary mags, cycling issues, ergo issues, accessory fitment issues, excessive FPS... this is a 2.5/5 at best. Cool, they tried to upgrade over the Mk-2 but they failed to make anything better, they just made it...more.`