How to Install Windows 98 on VMware with AMD Ryzen CPUs
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2022
- If you're having trouble installing Windows 98 on VMware with an AMD Ryzen CPU, this video guide is for you!
Do keep in mind that stability may vary, as you will run into issues here and there. If you really, really care about stability, I'd recommend installing Windows 98 on PCem or 86box, as those emulators properly emulates old hardware.
Links:
Windows 98 Boot Floppy (download the Windows98_SE.img one under diskette images): www.allbootdisks.com/download...
Microsoft CD-ROM Extensions (MSCDEX): winworldpc.com/product/ms-cd-...
Windows 98 CD-ROM: (It's on the same website where you downloaded MSCDEX).
Windows 98 Sound Driver: mega.nz/file/q0xkFb4Y#okJ4tlW...
86box: 86box.net/
PCem: www.pcem-emulator.co.uk/
NOTE:
This tutorial was performed on an unbootable CD-ROM version, if you have a bootable CD-ROM of Windows 98, this tutorial can still be followed. Check pinned comment for more info.
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*Patch9x works much better than following this tutorial, since I was completely unaware of it existing.*
*Answers for Questions!*
If I have a bootable copy of Windows 98 CD-ROM, why do I have to add bios.bootDelay?
The reason bios.bootDelay was added is that, you can boot to floppy instead of CD-ROM. However, you may choose to install Windows 98 from the CD first, but before Windows Setup appears, you need to exit to DOS to install the MSCDEX.
Why do I have to check "Disable all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers" in safe mode? Can't I just do it in normal mode?
The reason you need to check it in safe mode is because there's a known issue with newer Ryzen CPUs that causes explorer to crash and doesn't recover in normal mode. Safe mode minimizes that.
But what if I currently have an install of Windows 98 prior to upgrading my CPU?
If you have an existing Windows 98 VM that you want to keep, you need to boot into safe mode to check the disable all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers, then boot into DOS to install the MSCDEX.
Why do I need to install MSCDEX?
Disabling all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers also disables the CD-ROM functionalities. MSCDEX is used as a supplement, as I currently haven't found any methods of stability while not having disable all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers checked. If any of you found one, I'll be sure to update the description and this comment.
When you said it works on VirtualBox, do I have to do this bios.bootDelay too?
Nope, just make a virtual machine for Windows 98 on VirtualBox, install MSCDEX and check the disable all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers.
It's not "Microsoft CD Extension", it's "Microsoft CD Extensions"!
Yes I know, I make mistakes all the time.
Hope these questions helps! If you have more questions, feel free to ask them!
How is this comment 1 day old but the video was made a couple hours ago 🤔
@@RUclipsMillionaire456 the video was unlisted before and he commented before he make the video public
ive been looking for a video like this for years. thank you
Hey! Thanks for the shoutout. I really didn't think you would make a full-blown video out of my simple question, I thought you were just going to reply to the comment. Anyway, there was yet another way to install Windows 98 on VMware on AMD Ryzen, it involved installing a very old version of VMware (I think it was 10 or 11), checking a special box in the VM settings that does not exist in current versions, disabling 32-bit protected mode disk drivers, copying some file to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ and then re-enabling the 32-bit protected mode disk drivers. Unfortunately I cannot find the guide anymore nor the file, and I remember it being in German, so yeah, thanks for the guide, it really helped.
ok
thank you so much dude, been waiting for one of these to work
Dude, thank you SO much!! I had a pretty buggy Windows 98 VM before, but I followed your tutorial to a tee, and it works GREAT!! Now, I still have Explorer.exe problems of course, but that is to be expected when trying to run an old operating system on a newer CPU, but it works MUCH better than my previous VM!! I have subscribed to your channel!! Great stuff, man!! 👍👍
Finally! I have been waiting for this video!
Hope this helps!
Awesome video! Works flawlessly :)
I HAD SPENT SO LONG TRYING TO GET THIS TO WORK I am up far too late and work in a few hours but THANK YOU SO DAMN MUCH 😭
Thank you very much ! It is amazing !
Thank's a lot it's working for me with a Ryzen 9
works perfectly. Thank you.
Thank you so much
Excellent, with this tutorial I was able to install Windows 98 in Spanish.
Among the issues I found are:
1.- I did not execute the SETUP command, i did "INSTALAR"
2.-I didn't know how to install VMWare Tools, I had to see in another video that it is a menu option
3.- He did not indicate the step where the soundblaster ISO should be mounted, but by practicing these minutes I was able to do it.
THANK YOU!
boi
Thank you so much!
I must say voice in video is very clear, there is elements of accent mixed with speed, but good video. I probably have to reinstall after seeing video. I think the instability made things crash too much and messed something in registry up or made a file corrupted. I might also "just" try to get dosbox-x running with one of the supported Window 98 versions.
Thank you very much
You remind me of someone I worked with
Hi there. Thanks for this tutorial I'm able to run windows 98 from vmware for my Ryzen 7 5700g machine. I hope you can make tutorial also how to install windows 95 with AMD Ryzen CPU too. Thanks.
9:42 Product key: *_SCALY - SCALY - SCALY - SCALY - SCALY_*
Can you successfully connect a parallel port Zip drive? I.e. if I install Win 98 drivers, will they connect to the physical parallel port?
If i try to execute the command "format C: /s", it will says: "bad command or file name".
I also checked which directory the video was on and it was on the A: drive. But i was still not getting it to work.
I tried to play games on the win 98 on vm ware. But because the cd is on a D instead of C i can’t play most of the old games i used to play as a kid. How can i make those playable?
I am having the issue where i type D:, and it says invaild drive specification. Any way how to fix this?
works on FX-8320 also and thaks for this tutorial because i want to play lego island and windows 98 dosen't participate with my cpu
Did u make a video of how to install Windows 95 on a AMD Ryzen CPU?
Everything goes smooth until up to 10 minutes remaining time when I get the shell32.dll error and the explorer message "This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down".
Cannot continue after that. Is there a solution ?
I too have an AMD ryzen 2 and VMware.
Te amo!
I followed all the steps you mentioned but in the Setup ScanDisk screen the emulaton is so laggy that it takes about 10 seconds to move between options of "Pause" and "Info" and "Exit". What may be the cause for this lag? It's stuck at "Directory Structure" at 0%
Same I wonder why
i had the same problem, after 15 minutes it finally moved one
After i virtualize the disk and i restart there is a message saying the operating system is missing
I have an amd apu which is not a ryzen amd a 7680 I have a problem with the installation of windows 98 error regsvr32
Hello i cant go to safe mode, when i hold left ctrl it doesent go to safe mode , what can i do
Might be a little late, but make sure when you start the vm, click your mouse in the window so it will recognize your keyboard click.
7:03 I can't take the steps of coping the CAB files to C: furthermore as my win98 version is different from the tutorial. Can I have those CAB files in an ISO format (which using usb function the guest would hang & can't do anything or to reboot) ? I already have a bootable copy of win98 thanks~
Usually, with Windows 98, the folder of which the .CAB files are located is at WIN9X. Otherwise, it might be in the different name which is unlikely. Are you sure the copy of Windows 98 you have includes the Win9x folder?
Do you have more information about what trait of Ryzen conflicts with protected mode disk drivers - and how it's possible anyway since they're fully virtualized? Or has no-one investigated it in depth?
Well, reports said that due to AMD changing its architecture when Ryzen came out in 2017, it interferes with older Windows versions too, notably 9x versions.
Disabling all 32-bit protected-mode disk drivers helps a bit by preventing major illegal operations errors that prevents explorer from running, or getting a SHELL32 error. I'm still doing research on why its the case, and if I find an answer, I'll update you.
@@TechnologicalByte It appears the article "VME Broken on AMD Ryzen" on OS/2 Museum has some valuable insight.
EDIT: nope, it does not, since this particular bug was long ago microcode patched in AGESA, took them just a couple months.
I'm still on Ivy Bridge, but will be moving to Ryzen 5500 soon.
OK no that wasn't helpful, since the VME bug was fixed; another possible hint is Stuffed Cow blog with the article "Windows 9x TLB Invalidation Bug" which if you have nested paging enabled, TLB logic of course leaks right through from the CPU to the VM.
uhh i cant find a .vmx file only .vmxf
(update) found it just had to enable hidden file extensions
Whenever I try to boot into Safe Mode, I get stuck on "HIMEM is testing extended memory..."
Is there a way to skip this or am I not able to install Windows 98 SE on VMWare with an AMD Ryzen CPU?
You have to wait until it's finished. Note: If you have less RAM in your virtual machine the test will be faster.
I would recommend at least 128MB RAM, because if you only have a few MB of RAM you can't run 32-bit applications.
Hope this helped!😄
I begin to see some reports of it happening, you can boot into safe mode by using the command prompt only option, as it bypasses HIMEM checking, and typing in "WIN /D:M" at the prompt.
I cant install VMware Tools on win 98 any suggestions??
I have a question, I followed most of this video, but is there a way to set the resolution aspect ratio to 16:9 or 1920x1080? Because my screen resolutions are only 4:3 only. Any ideas?
I set a custom resolution in the VM to force it to use 16:9 since VMware Tools on Windows 9x systems are only capped at 4:3 under display properties. You can do this by resizing the VMware's window to your exact resolution and under the view tab, you can click on "Fit Guest Now".
@@TechnologicalByte Thank you so much, for goodness sake, that was little confusing on VMware's end simplicity. Works great now, again thank you!
Everything seems to work as expected until I got to the part with Microsoft ScanDisk checking the drive. I got stuck when starting on Directory Structure and it never progresses. It's been some minutes now and the bar is stuck at 0%.
Edit: nvm it works, it's just painfully slow and looks like it's freezing due to the progress bar not progressing.
I had this same problem brother. Thank you for posting here. I've been trying to solve a problem without knowing it wasn't a problem in the first place. Install has been stuck on ScanDisk's "Directory Structure" check for upwards of ten minutes now.
How slow are we talking? Im not trying to wait an hour
Himem is taking forever to test my extended memory
I tried 3 times, the last 2 ones I pressed the CRTL key and then there is no one reaction only a black screen. There is no menu for choice to go into the safe mode. Also I have only 71 items after copied files into Cabbages. Is there a correlation?
solve: bitter but true. I forgot to click into the vm-frame so the command of "strg"/"ctrl" couldn't set in vm.
Stuck forever at Directory structure 0%.... 🥺
Any idea of what's failing or how to fix this issue?
EDIT: Well, it seems it continues after a long waiting, kind of 15 minutes, but it works. Yippy!
Is there any possible way to remove the sound stutter?
It a tricky question, since I have not experienced it myself.. It's probably due to your CPU not giving enough resources to the VM.. If I find the answer, I'll update you with the answer.
Just confused a bit... I followed exactly "D:\>copy WIN98\*.CAB CL\"
and it just doesnt work
It just says "file not found"
its C:\ not CL\
When i get to setup and scandisk, it gets stuck at 0% on directoru structure, does anyone know what is going on
I have the same issue.
7:20 When copying files, you have 77 copies of files, but I have 71 copies of files. when I enter the setup command, it says bad command or file name. i tried 2 iso, but the result did not change. if you think my iso files are wrong, can you give me a link to the correct iso file ? Can you help me :(
Did you change drive letters to the CD drive? Also it's normal that mine shows 77 copies instead of 71, since it's the Second Edition version of Windows 98, you may have the RTM instead.
@@TechnologicalByte Yes, I did exactly what you showed me, in the right way.
If you have Win98 iso in another language, type the correct word instead of "setup". In Spanish it's "instalar"
@@carlosforteza6858 i using turkish
6:31
When I type install it says its a bad command
If you have Win98 iso y another language, type the correct word instead of "setup". In Spanish it's "instalar"
After saving config.sys and autoexec.bat, I'm typing 'install', but then it just gives out a 'bad command or file name'.
You need to change the disk 'windows98.img' to 'Microsoft MS-DOS CD-ROM Extensions 1.25' as 'disk.img'.
After do that, 'install' works.
@@shuns1978 Ah, awesome. That's what was ailing. Thank you for replying!
name of music at 8:20 thank you
Need an idea: Install Windows NT 3.1, NT 3.51, NT 4.0 & Windows 2000 on VMware AMD CPU
easy i installed windows 2000 on a amd cpu with vmware
OMG I just watched the video of u saying that LMFAO
Куча ошибок SHELL32.DLL как исправить?
Gotta buy ryzen 3400g, go back in time around 98 and build a computer shop. Pretty sure it will last for a decade without upgrading!
what about Oracle VM VirtualBox?
Virtual PC has driver
bro i install the thing and there is a virus
Joke's on you - I have genuine copies of both Win 95 and Win 98 from the PC I had when I was a child xD
Hey, could you make the same video but for Windows 2000?
@@niewidocznyy_linux hey thank you man, 2 questions though. 1, Do I need the same things in the video like the boot floppy and cd extensions or just the rom? 2, for some reason when I used win2000, i either ran into the setup restarting half way through, or when running a program it would display the message “This is not a valid Win32 application”. If you could tell me how to fix any of these problems that would be great.
You don’t need a boot floppy for Windows 2000, because it doesn’t include a boot floppy.
And you can just ignore these messages, by clicking OK.
That’s how I got it to work.
Hope this helped.😀
Hey, Can you do how to install windows 95 on ryzen cpu?
@@niewidocznyy_linux Okay
Didn't see the "hold down CTRL key immediately", now I got a "Non-System disk or disk error. Replace and press any key when ready" message... ??????
EDIT: solved disconnecting floppy drive. Doh...!!! hehe
Uh, you should try Patcher9x to fix CPU limit
Ok
(I have amd radeon cpu)
(*what could go wrong*)
How about intel?
EDIT: WORKS ON INTEL, Tested on Modern Intel CPU
I don't own a newer generation Intel CPUs, so I am not 100% sure.
@@SilgotchiGacha ???
@@TechnologicalByte it works on intel i tested it
music?
Most music I get is from The Mod Archive. modarchive.org/
@@TechnologicalByte the specific music tho
@@BetaMaster2 Most of the background music is somewhere in the video captions, like during the copying file process
@@PatRyk738 the one i want isn't in the captions, it starts at 5:14
or... use the patcher9x thing
I prefer using an emulator instead of VMware
OS bottleneck