I'm still more than happy with my compatto with well over 20'000 shots and still shoots like new and has been my go to rifle for the last three years but this Concept XR could sway me even more so with a folding stock.
I really like the look of that new cocking lever. I’m now thinking the Commander XR is the one for me. Concept looks great but a carbon bottle is a must for me, plus it’s gauges are in a much better position.
There are changes to the regulator (if you have a Mk II) and other minor changes. But if you are happy with your original Compatto, absolutely no need to drop more money on the newer version
I remember thinking that brocock were dragging their heels a bit when it came to the release and the numbers of the concept lite rifle hitting the shops last year, now we know why.
Great review as always and nice to see they have listened and gone side lever. As it’s a .177 you really should be using the QYS pellets for testing am finding them amazingly good in an fx and would love to see how they go through other barrels. Think you tried them previously
So far, and that’s about 3 tins, the streamline ones in the plastic tub are excellent and so far seem better than JSB exact or heavy and weigh in between the 2. The thick skirt seems to give excellent long range stability out to 50m
Nice review Steve. You say the sub 12 ft/lb model is factory set to 11.5 ft/lb. What pellets do Brocock use to achieve these figures, ie: make, weight, head size, etc? Thanks.
The lever on the older brocock was the main reason I bought a wildcat. Also I preferred the soft touch stock to the brococks hard plastic. Maybe worth another look next time 👍
It looks very beautiful and I even saw myself buying one. one thing I didn't like maintain a barrel of 431 mm these days. I would like to have them go for a 500mm ...
@@airgunology If it is in the lands of your magestade the Queen with power restrictions I agree with the size (431mm) but when pulled to 40 Joules the extra size was better ;) and keep up the good work Steve.
Hi Steve nice to meet you at the show on the Thermal stand with Cliff. Like the look of this as its pretty much how I've set up my rifles over the years . Would actually like a shorter cylinder and Barrel but longer forestock with picatinny fwds more .( funny about saying the low shot count as we have been spoiled by buddy bottles over the last 20yrs ) . The butt stock is definatly the wrong one for how high the scope is . I believe these are FAB defence and they do a adjustable height version . Or a Magpul with clip on riser units which I run on my centerfire and rim fire ( have a look on my other channel FGYT shooting ... MODs PODs n Slings ). Would look good in all Flat Dark earth 😁. I would also like to see QD sling cups fitted ( again avalible in some AR 15 but stocks) . ATB
The stock is made by fab and you can fit there adjustable comb version to the new brocock rifles, my friend has done so and I can't put into words just how much better his concept feels.
@@alicew9327 it should be better just annoying that you get supplied a part with a new gun that isn't suitable and have to spend more money on replacing it with something it should have been supplied with from the start . I use AR butt stocks on several rifles in rimfire and centerfire all require a riser to use scopes and I fit ones suitable for that
Good review. I agree with what a few others on here have said about QYS streamlined. I get 5p groups with my mk1 Compatto at 30m all day long. More consistency than JSBs and way way fewer damaged skirts. I don't put anything else through my Compatto now.
I get the concern thing with the gauge in the front, but when I first get a gun it gets looked at 3-4 times. Then never gets looked at again, cause I know the shot count. So I'm all for keeping it simple and cost effective for the consumer.
I bought a Brocock and I had big problems with it. It leaked air after one week. Now it won't cock. Also, even if it worked the trigger pull is not adjustable and is like 3 lbs. It's un-shootable IMO if you want to hit anything. I bought an FX Impact to replace it. An FX Impact with a 600mm barrel would be the same length as that gun with much better muzzle velocity. Important with your UK 12 lb. restriction.
Hi Steve, was interested to see this as I do like my brocock rifle. Was thinking of another toy how do you find the one with the folding stock. I can't find the review for that one. Any play in stock. BTW I love my scopes had from you on open day at world farm.
Excellent review. Nit sure if i missed it, but would have been nice if you covered the fps and foot pound ratio. Also, another question, while the magazine system as you claim is top notch, when doing rapid hunts and moving around the woods, there is a possibility of double feeding the pelket, right?. Ie, if you have forgotten whether you cocked it?. Lastly, you mentioned huma regulated. In the Magnum midel, I've seen a separate gauge for it?. Is this really huma regulated.?
Wish id never bought it Steve i cant put it down.Its gonna cost me a fortune in pellets. Clover leaves at 55 yds rested. Awesome bit of kit , well done Brocock.
Let’s see if you can answer this truthfully Steve why have you removed the interview with Tony Belas were he admits there is a problem with the bolt on this gun in .25 Fac Like I don’t know !!!!!!!
@Mark Houlding I have not removed any videos and for the last 2 days I have been at BSS. You seem to have a real beef going on here and falsely seem to think this is my concern that you have a problem with Brocock or Tony. If you are on about the Brocock XR release video, which if memory serves me well, is where this was mentioned, then that video is there for all to see. Apology accepted.
Great video!! Since you visit boric from time to time,,, would you be able to all if it would be possible for the bantom to have an option of a shorter poly barrel and a moderated shroud so,, as hunters we don't have to add extra silencers,. I dream of a world that's it's all integrated 😊😊😊. Does that make sense? I don't want a700mm barrel,, just something like a 450mm
More testing this weekend, and the Concept is actually nice and quiet without the silencer on it. Was very surprised at the range. That reduces the length by another 6 inches and the barrel is already shrouded on the Concept.
@@airgunology please reread my request about a poly barrel and a shroud only for fac so there is no need for a silencer ,, plus my miss spelled brocock lol I want to make a super hunting rifle!!
Your funny, Only Down Side: shot count 100. Here in the states I'm getting 40 and consider it plenty for hunting. May be because of the low power you have to plug the critter 5 times??
Sign of the times, DayState are local to me and they are willing to let me borrow the rifles and say what I want. I have also done a lot of FX rifles in the past.
Well, I’ve just listened to the review and it sounded unbiased to me, it’s a pity you had to spout negativity on free content. Being a content provider (as I’m sure you are not) it is very expensive and time consuming to provide content totally free of charge to you.he does it for the love of the sport and to help give information and advice to people like me. I watched dozens of AirGun RUclips channels and hundreds of videos, this channel is the best I’ve found. I doubt you’ve contributed to his costs which in my view gives you even less rights to criticise his content. If he gets given rifles to review because he is close to the distributor would you expect him to say no? He did also point out some negatives in the rifle.
the other modle that you mention is a commander not Comando, please get the details right, that is the point of these videos. also you said 100 shot that creeps up to 130 in .22 what cal is the 100 shot count in?
I'd like to see a carbine version. It makes me laugh when I hear you say that a 100 or so shot count is low, go back just ten years ago and that would be a high shot count, I remember the falcon, air arms, old brocock, bsa etc etc, would all have between 30 and 70 shots for a cylinder pcp, even the older bottle rifles typically did around 120/200, Regulators have changed the PCP market massively.
Steve,please watch your videos back and take time to breathe correctly when describing stuff as you are coming over as rushing your way through your reviews. It is distracting for us viewers and must be exhausting for your good self.
Steve Allan Sorry to read that you have lost your dog,it’s always a sad time when they go. Hope you didn’t mind the critique earlier. I just thought that you would like to know that you were rushing through your piece. 👍
@@airgunology So sorry to hear about your dog mate, chin up, Lay off the coffee before recording the videos lol, It's just enthusiasm for new rifles isn't it Steve?
Thanks for the review. Personally, I think the best thing that ever happens to Brocock is Daystate taking over! They,Daystate, have their work cut out for them but it is still a big deal Daystate is now involved. I never once’s thought about buying a Brocock. One I hate the name. Really...BROCOCK! Wow! If my grandfather hear I bought a gun with that name...LMAO...very un-PC type man and very hard and manly...lol...you know how some of the old timers are...wow...yeah...that wouldn’t go well and a few insinuating statements would be made I’m sure...lol...sorry but that’s how he is. Just saying for those with those kinda of grandpas. Tough guy and would still kick my ass and he’s in his 80s and mean. Still the real matter is that they needed Daystates way of engineering and thinking. This will benefit all shooters. I do really like the side lever handle a lot and hope that style is put on all future rifles. Hate that style of bi-pod though...definitely would have went with the Accu-tac style SR5 even the 25$ knock offs are amazing and solid. The atlas V-8 doesn’t even hold a candle to even the Chinese knock offs. Had the Atlas V8 and in my honest opinion wasn’t in any way shape or form as good as even a knock off SR5 or similar design. Either I got some really crappy ones or they are just not as solid. Legs constantly collapse on both Atlas V8 genuine and Atlas knock off. I could just be an idiot also and don’t know how to use them correctly too...lol. For now until Daystate roots grow through Brocock thoroughly, I will stay with Daystate. The magazine is either loved or hated and the pressure gauge should have been put on the side. Some FXs are thinner and they can do it, maybe Daystate will fix that. Like you, I think putting the gauge on the wrong end is stupid, cheap, dangerous, and generally disrespectful from a customer concern standpoint. We all tell the manufactures to stop doing this and they do not. Very sad really. Thank you for the video and sorry for the long comment. On lockdown and bored out of my mind over this stupid virus outbreak crap. Take care and stay well.
Nice to see innovation but got to disagree about the mags! even on you video the pellet alignment does not look central? At 4.57 especially the mag on right of video!! Shame if this is still a problem although Tony did admit he would be addressing this fault and hopefully eradicate this on all new Brococks on the XR range.
We all know that the magazine of the hw 100 is the absolute best magazine ever made for a pcp, any company that uses that type of system is a step up from the get go. (although the daystate and brocock magazines are very good to use.
@@aboutthemetal8783 look on RUclips and you will see owners complain systematically about the mag from alignment issues to stiff bolt action which causes poor accuracy
@@airgunology Watch a Matt Dubber or a Ted Holdover video. If an airgun won't shoot into one hole at 25m something is wrong. The barrel crown, crummy pellets, unbalanced gun, something.
Hello Steve it’s been a few days since I left you a message which you obviously aren’t going to answer so I’ll try and catch you at the show. If you’d been sold a new Concept lite like me believing it to be the latest greatest model then having to wait 3 months to receive it, then only a month later the XR is released you’d feel like it do. When I emailed Daystate/Brockock about this and the stiff bolt problem they claimed they new nothing about this yet it’s funny Tony Belas new all to well about it in you RUclips interview !!! If you want respect from yours viewers then do honest reviews and don’t say what you think suppliers wants you to say just because your probably getting free gear !!!!!
Sorry but I am not your personal venting machine or customer support for Brocock and have 12k+ members therefore I generally cannot possibly reply to everything sent to me. But on this occasion, I will. I don't speak for Brocock or others. Any issues should be taken up with them and not me. I did had insider information the XR was coming under NDA only a month before launch, like all press members. As with many products, it is shite timing dude. Many times I have bought items and 2 months later a new version comes along. That is how the world rolls. As for the bolt action, Brocock / Tony did not say it was a design flaw, just that it was something that could be improved upon and this is why the sidelever XR was launched. It is called product innovation and how products are made and revised. All rifles with bolts suffer the same problem when you start upping the power in FAC as the bolts become stiffer due to the hammer spring. Brocock recognised this and decided to move to the XR. Apparently this was 18+ months in development, but don't quote me on this. In the end, you suffered bad luck that you bought a totally good product only to have the bad luck that it updated later on. Same as when I bought my new car, 2 months latter a newer version came out. Again when I bought a new £800 graphics card and nViidia launched a new one 6 weeks later that was much faster. I had to suck it up as we all do. BTW : I am not paid by anyone, I do borrow stuff from DayState, Brocock and MTC as they are 25 miles from me. I am allowed to say what I like about their products otherwise I would not borrow them. I get some freebies chucked my way by all manufacturers, normally pellets, silencers etc.
Nothing wrong with the bolt on my bantam sniper hr , cycles very well , magazines a bit fussy though ( even had to return it for another , and the second one was fussy as well ) barracuda FT I found was best in the magazine ... How may piccatini rails does one need ? If you were to furnish that rifle using ALL the rails , it would resemble Battlestar Galactica ... I'll pass .. got rifles with both BOLT action and LEVER action .. each are just as good as one another ... Don't give a gerbils dick about the FAC variation .. Nonetheless , a very good review Steve ... Accuracy on the commander I'd say was 7/10 ... So not too bad
No it's not,just bought a brocock Bantam 22 fac 46 ft-lb rubbish accuracy on all settings high to low, magazine is crap and shear's the pellets giving you flyers and the cocking is crap,worst £1200 I've ever spent.stay away from brocock go FX all day
You know 70psi reaches 12ftlb right ? our rifles are anything but efficient, why are GLOBAL vehicle valve sizes all sub 4mm port size ??? why are videos about compressed air cars from a decade ago not on sale yet ? I told you information why 12ftlb is the law , it would make a good talking point with many comments....12ftlb IS to stop peasant youths experiencing the SOUND barrier! Why is my 225lb x bow +150ftlb but my hw97k is 11ftlb? Because 12ftlb will make some science happen and they dont want millions of young fresh minds tinkering with the sound barrier god forbide they go and advance wh1ite man travel / aviation ! Arrows cant break 500fps currently, thats 630fps shy of mach 1 BUT would COMFORTABLY pass through 2stab vests and a man.....it goes entry/exit clean through a car in one door out the other...its legal because dumbing Europeans down on advanced ballistics is the only important thing.....btw pellets brake mach1 from a smooth bore , go try and find a full power smooth bore if you can . 11.6ftlb with 5gr lead free WILL sonic boom.....dumb the peasants down & make sure they cant own anything accurate at minimum front line infantry range 350meters...coincidently my 225lb x bow has zero accuracy out that far....but if it did they would be band . The people Germany removed are completely in control of our lgbtq iss hotbed country . Search our dangerously low birth ratio if you think im a nutter . were getting fkd my friend and all our men are faaaar to preoccupied with merch..
urghhh....you're not allowed more then 12ftlb because it will allow .177s to break mach1 , they dont give a single toss about how lethal airguns are , they just down want anyone breaking the sound barrier.. Why else are crossbows unregulated and can yield +200ftlb why is poxy 11.99ftlb the airgun limit? Sound barrier! I know your not this slow lol , i got 40 thumbs from a comment i posted yesterday on a news channel...people from all over the world understand my written vocabulary.. The powers that be are stopping access to a simple bit of science on PURPOSE you SHEEP , blue pill means be a mindless sheep , you want me to be ignorant like yourself 😂 no thanks matey . Who told me ? A licensed gun smith...i tell you and all i get back is derppy derrpp wahh?? Im stupid to understand you !!? 🤪derrr
Thanks for the Steve but what a load of rubbish. Customer support !!!! I asked you a simple question regarding your video and about Tony Belas clearly admitting the problem with 40ftlb .25 yet in their email to me they denied all knowledge of this problem. Sounds like you had a word with him because it’s strange how you mentioned the new car thing , he said exactly the same Dude !!!!
@@markhoulding1938 You seem to be holding me responsible or semi responsible for this or at least your posts seem that way to me as it is all over my videos. Let me state again, I am not a rep for Brocock or on their pay roll and I am no way anything to do with their customer support. I am only answering you because you are posting this personal thing all over my videos.. I can only tell you what I know. What Tony said on my video was that as the power went up on a bolt action it began tougher to cock and so they decided to introduce a side lever as part of normal progression of a product. You seem to want to use this as some type of excuse to get out of your purchased that unfortunately was mis-timed to the new launch (That i can appreciate). It seems you are pissed because you bought just before this was announced and seem to want to let the world know and vent. Take it up with Brocock is my suggestion
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I'm still more than happy with my compatto with well over 20'000 shots and still shoots like new and has been my go to rifle for the last three years but this Concept XR could sway me even more so with a folding stock.
The Concept with a folding stock is very nice, get hold of one and try it. I am sure you would like it.
I really like the look of that new cocking lever. I’m now thinking the Commander XR is the one for me. Concept looks great but a carbon bottle is a must for me, plus it’s gauges are in a much better position.
Yes, I like the Concept lightness and being small, obviously a different usage than the carbon bottled Commander.
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@Jayden Brycen lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it on google :)
@Victor Bode yup, I've been using Flixzone for since april myself =)
@Victor Bode Thank you, I signed up and it seems to work :) Appreciate it!
Apart from the cocking lever its no further on than my old Compatto so I will not be changing,
There are changes to the regulator (if you have a Mk II) and other minor changes. But if you are happy with your original Compatto, absolutely no need to drop more money on the newer version
Is the reg adjustable? Also is there a hammer tension screw for adjustment? Thanks a lot , great videos 😎
I remember thinking that brocock were dragging their heels a bit when it came to the release and the numbers of the concept lite rifle hitting the shops last year, now we know why.
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Great review as always and nice to see they have listened and gone side lever. As it’s a .177 you really should be using the QYS pellets for testing am finding them amazingly good in an fx and would love to see how they go through other barrels. Think you tried them previously
Not played with QYS much, but limited experience is that they are just as good as JSB
So far, and that’s about 3 tins, the streamline ones in the plastic tub are excellent and so far seem better than JSB exact or heavy and weigh in between the 2. The thick skirt seems to give excellent long range stability out to 50m
Nice review Steve. You say the sub 12 ft/lb model is factory set to 11.5 ft/lb. What pellets do Brocock use to achieve these figures, ie: make, weight, head size, etc? Thanks.
JSB's, not sure on the head size
The lever on the older brocock was the main reason I bought a wildcat. Also I preferred the soft touch stock to the brococks hard plastic. Maybe worth another look next time 👍
Totally transforms the Brocock range the side lever. Def worth another look, but the Wildcat is a superb hard to beat rifle.
It looks very beautiful and I even saw myself buying one. one thing I didn't like maintain a barrel of 431 mm these days. I would like to have them go for a 500mm ...
It keeps the rifle nice and compact / light. Nice and accurate as well.
@@airgunology If it is in the lands of your magestade the Queen with power restrictions I agree with the size (431mm) but when pulled to 40 Joules the extra size was better ;) and keep up the good work Steve.
Very interesting. How accurate and precise is it? Is it good for field target shooting?
Thanks dude .Canada,,cheers ..🥰
Thanks for watching
Hey Steve nice review. does the stock come off if wnated to use a smaller gun case ?
Not easily, get the folding stock version.
Compatto xr may be the one for me! Cheers Steve!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎
I am looking forward to getting one to play with and compare to my original Compatto
Hi Steve nice to meet you at the show on the Thermal stand with Cliff. Like the look of this as its pretty much how I've set up my rifles over the years . Would actually like a shorter cylinder and Barrel but longer forestock with picatinny fwds more .( funny about saying the low shot count as we have been spoiled by buddy bottles over the last 20yrs ) . The butt stock is definatly the wrong one for how high the scope is . I believe these are FAB defence and they do a adjustable height version . Or a Magpul with clip on riser units which I run on my centerfire and rim fire ( have a look on my other channel FGYT shooting ... MODs PODs n Slings ). Would look good in all Flat Dark earth 😁. I would also like to see QD sling cups fitted ( again avalible in some AR 15 but stocks) . ATB
The stock is made by fab and you can fit there adjustable comb version to the new brocock rifles, my friend has done so and I can't put into words just how much better his concept feels.
@@alicew9327 it should be better just annoying that you get supplied a part with a new gun that isn't suitable and have to spend more money on replacing it with something it should have been supplied with from the start . I use AR butt stocks on several rifles in rimfire and centerfire all require a riser to use scopes and I fit ones suitable for that
Good review. I agree with what a few others on here have said about QYS streamlined. I get 5p groups with my mk1 Compatto at 30m all day long. More consistency than JSBs and way way fewer damaged skirts. I don't put anything else through my Compatto now.
I get the concern thing with the gauge in the front, but when I first get a gun it gets looked at 3-4 times. Then never gets looked at again, cause I know the shot count. So I'm all for keeping it simple and cost effective for the consumer.
I bought a Brocock and I had big problems with it. It leaked air after one week. Now it won't cock. Also, even if it worked the trigger pull is not adjustable and is like 3 lbs. It's un-shootable IMO if you want to hit anything. I bought an FX Impact to replace it. An FX Impact with a 600mm barrel would be the same length as that gun with much better muzzle velocity. Important with your UK 12 lb. restriction.
That is a shame, DS have had issues with the older Brococks. Was this a XR model you had with the side lever ?
Hi Steve, was interested to see this as I do like my brocock rifle. Was thinking of another toy how do you find the one with the folding stock. I can't find the review for that one. Any play in stock. BTW I love my scopes had from you on open day at world farm.
Good afternoon,for shooting at a 50 to 75 metre distance would you recommend the Concept or the Compatto?kind regards.
I love mine🤘🏼 very powerful very accurate
Excellent review. Nit sure if i missed it, but would have been nice if you covered the fps and foot pound ratio. Also, another question, while the magazine system as you claim is top notch, when doing rapid hunts and moving around the woods, there is a possibility of double feeding the pelket, right?. Ie, if you have forgotten whether you cocked it?. Lastly, you mentioned huma regulated. In the Magnum midel, I've seen a separate gauge for it?. Is this really huma regulated.?
is there no huma presure reg gauge on it
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how do I buy this bocok concept XR, I'm from Indonesia
I'm from Indonesia, how much is the price and how do I get the brocok concept lite unit..please guide
Wish id never bought it Steve i cant put it down.Its gonna cost me a fortune in pellets. Clover leaves at 55 yds rested. Awesome bit of kit , well done Brocock.
Let’s see if you can answer this truthfully Steve why have you removed the interview with Tony Belas were he admits there is a problem with the bolt on this gun in .25 Fac Like I don’t know !!!!!!!
@Mark Houlding I have not removed any videos and for the last 2 days I have been at BSS. You seem to have a real beef going on here and falsely seem to think this is my concern that you have a problem with Brocock or Tony. If you are on about the Brocock XR release video, which if memory serves me well, is where this was mentioned, then that video is there for all to see.
Apology accepted.
How many mags with it as standard , 2 or 3 would be good
1 as usual
Mag price ?
how to buy this airgun?
Great video!! Since you visit boric from time to time,,, would you be able to all if it would be possible for the bantom to have an option of a shorter poly barrel and a moderated shroud so,, as hunters we don't have to add extra silencers,. I dream of a world that's it's all integrated 😊😊😊. Does that make sense? I don't want a700mm barrel,, just something like a 450mm
More testing this weekend, and the Concept is actually nice and quiet without the silencer on it. Was very surprised at the range. That reduces the length by another 6 inches and the barrel is already shrouded on the Concept.
@@airgunology please reread my request about a poly barrel and a shroud only for fac so there is no need for a silencer ,, plus my miss spelled brocock lol I want to make a super hunting rifle!!
Your funny, Only Down Side: shot count 100. Here in the states I'm getting 40 and consider it plenty for hunting. May be because of the low power you have to plug the critter 5 times??
Its funny for someone who harped about being unbiased and independent you sure seem to be making a lot of daystate/brocock videos as of late.
Sign of the times, DayState are local to me and they are willing to let me borrow the rifles and say what I want. I have also done a lot of FX rifles in the past.
Good content steve and excellent reviews. Keep up the good work.
Shame really as there are few independent air rifle RUclips vloggers out there .
All seem to sell their souls to promote their sponsors
Well, I’ve just listened to the review and it sounded unbiased to me, it’s a pity you had to spout negativity on free content.
Being a content provider (as I’m sure you are not) it is very expensive and time consuming to provide content totally free of charge to you.he does it for the love of the sport and to help give information and advice to people like me. I watched dozens of AirGun RUclips channels and hundreds of videos, this channel is the best I’ve found. I doubt you’ve contributed to his costs which in my view gives you even less rights to criticise his content.
If he gets given rifles to review because he is close to the distributor would you expect him to say no? He did also point out some negatives in the rifle.
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the other modle that you mention is a commander not Comando, please get the details right, that is the point of these videos. also you said 100 shot that creeps up to 130 in .22 what cal is the 100 shot count in?
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I'd like to see a carbine version.
It makes me laugh when I hear you say that a 100 or so shot count is low, go back just ten years ago and that would be a high shot count, I remember the falcon, air arms, old brocock, bsa etc etc, would all have between 30 and 70 shots for a cylinder pcp, even the older bottle rifles typically did around 120/200,
Regulators have changed the PCP market massively.
Hi Steve
I have a brocock bantam sniper the regulator in it is knackered do you know where I can get one from
Cheers Keep up the good work
Google Huma regulators and buy direct. If Bantam still in warranty ask DayState / Brocock
Quick question are you FAC licenced up ?
No, not yet and not sure I will go for one as I have no real need or use other than videos.
Price in Pakistan please.?
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Steve,please watch your videos back and take time to breathe correctly when describing stuff as you are coming over as rushing your way through your reviews. It is distracting for us viewers and must be exhausting for your good self.
I had a very long week, my dog died and the rifle had to go back so the video was a little rushed. Sorry, not up to my usual standards.
Steve Allan Sorry to read that you have lost your dog,it’s always a sad time when they go. Hope you didn’t mind the critique earlier. I just thought that you would like to know that you were rushing through your piece. 👍
@@airgunology
So sorry to hear about your dog mate, chin up,
Lay off the coffee before recording the videos lol,
It's just enthusiasm for new rifles isn't it Steve?
Practice your breathing you are doing a Gordon Brown
Yeah, bad week and not to my usual standards and was rushed. Sorry.
Please! take a breath??😰. First 😉
I will remember next time. Very rushed week / review. Sorry.
@@airgunology 😁
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Thanks for the review. Personally, I think the best thing that ever happens to Brocock is Daystate taking over! They,Daystate, have their work cut out for them but it is still a big deal Daystate is now involved. I never once’s thought about buying a Brocock. One I hate the name. Really...BROCOCK! Wow! If my grandfather hear I bought a gun with that name...LMAO...very un-PC type man and very hard and manly...lol...you know how some of the old timers are...wow...yeah...that wouldn’t go well and a few insinuating statements would be made I’m sure...lol...sorry but that’s how he is. Just saying for those with those kinda of grandpas. Tough guy and would still kick my ass and he’s in his 80s and mean. Still the real matter is that they needed Daystates way of engineering and thinking. This will benefit all shooters. I do really like the side lever handle a lot and hope that style is put on all future rifles. Hate that style of bi-pod though...definitely would have went with the Accu-tac style SR5 even the 25$ knock offs are amazing and solid. The atlas V-8 doesn’t even hold a candle to even the Chinese knock offs. Had the Atlas V8 and in my honest opinion wasn’t in any way shape or form as good as even a knock off SR5 or similar design. Either I got some really crappy ones or they are just not as solid. Legs constantly collapse on both Atlas V8 genuine and Atlas knock off. I could just be an idiot also and don’t know how to use them correctly too...lol. For now until Daystate roots grow through Brocock thoroughly, I will stay with Daystate. The magazine is either loved or hated and the pressure gauge should have been put on the side. Some FXs are thinner and they can do it, maybe Daystate will fix that. Like you, I think putting the gauge on the wrong end is stupid, cheap, dangerous, and generally disrespectful from a customer concern standpoint. We all tell the manufactures to stop doing this and they do not. Very sad really. Thank you for the video and sorry for the long comment. On lockdown and bored out of my mind over this stupid virus outbreak crap. Take care and stay well.
Nice to see innovation but got to disagree about the mags! even on you video the pellet alignment does not look central? At 4.57 especially the mag on right of video!!
Shame if this is still a problem although Tony did admit he would be addressing this fault and hopefully eradicate this on all new Brococks on the XR range.
I might have shown an older mag as I have quite a few of them
@@airgunology Thanks for feedback ,it lets brocock down as the rifle is not at fault
We all know that the magazine of the hw 100 is the absolute best magazine ever made for a pcp, any company that uses that type of system is a step up from the get go. (although the daystate and brocock magazines are very good to use.
@@aboutthemetal8783 look on RUclips and you will see owners complain systematically about the mag from alignment issues to stiff bolt action which causes poor accuracy
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Is the gun inherently inaccurate or is the guy just can't shoot. Should be one ragged hole at 25m. Very impressed? Hardly.
The idiot on the trigger I am afraid. I love all these comments of pellet on pellet and yet no one else seems to show it on video.
@@airgunology Watch a Matt Dubber or a Ted Holdover video. If an airgun won't shoot into one hole at 25m something is wrong. The barrel crown, crummy pellets, unbalanced gun, something.
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Thanks for watching
Yo, have you thought of shooting these reviews with a gun vice ? This would negate any parallax error or the shooter being cross eyed. 😊😅
Im glad you stopped that extremely hidius music at the start. Sorry to hear about your dog passing.
Hello Steve it’s been a few days since I left you a message which you obviously aren’t going to answer so I’ll try and catch you at the show. If you’d been sold a new Concept lite like me believing it to be the latest greatest model then having to wait 3 months to receive it, then only a month later the XR is released you’d feel like it do. When I emailed Daystate/Brockock about this and the stiff bolt problem they claimed they new nothing about this yet it’s funny Tony Belas new all to well about it in you RUclips interview !!! If you want respect from yours viewers then do honest reviews and don’t say what you think suppliers wants you to say just because your probably getting free gear !!!!!
Sorry but I am not your personal venting machine or customer support for Brocock and have 12k+ members therefore I generally cannot possibly reply to everything sent to me.
But on this occasion, I will.
I don't speak for Brocock or others. Any issues should be taken up with them and not me.
I did had insider information the XR was coming under NDA only a month before launch, like all press members.
As with many products, it is shite timing dude. Many times I have bought items and 2 months later a new version comes along. That is how the world rolls.
As for the bolt action, Brocock / Tony did not say it was a design flaw, just that it was something that could be improved upon and this is why the sidelever XR was launched. It is called product innovation and how products are made and revised.
All rifles with bolts suffer the same problem when you start upping the power in FAC as the bolts become stiffer due to the hammer spring. Brocock recognised this and decided to move to the XR. Apparently this was 18+ months in development, but don't quote me on this.
In the end, you suffered bad luck that you bought a totally good product only to have the bad luck that it updated later on. Same as when I bought my new car, 2 months latter a newer version came out. Again when I bought a new £800 graphics card and nViidia launched a new one 6 weeks later that was much faster. I had to suck it up as we all do.
BTW : I am not paid by anyone, I do borrow stuff from DayState, Brocock and MTC as they are 25 miles from me. I am allowed to say what I like about their products otherwise I would not borrow them. I get some freebies chucked my way by all manufacturers, normally pellets, silencers etc.
Mags so good they replaced them for being crap
Nothing wrong with the bolt on my bantam sniper hr , cycles very well , magazines a bit fussy though ( even had to return it for another , and the second one was fussy as well ) barracuda FT I found was best in the magazine ...
How may piccatini rails does one need ? If you were to furnish that rifle using ALL the rails , it would resemble Battlestar Galactica ... I'll pass .. got rifles with both BOLT action and LEVER action .. each are just as good as one another ... Don't give a gerbils dick about the FAC variation ..
Nonetheless , a very good review Steve ... Accuracy on the commander I'd say was 7/10 ... So not too bad
I'd rather a bolt
Each to their own, but on the high powered brococks, the bolt is awful.
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No it's not,just bought a brocock Bantam 22 fac 46 ft-lb rubbish accuracy on all settings high to low, magazine is crap and shear's the pellets giving you flyers and the cocking is crap,worst £1200 I've ever spent.stay away from brocock go FX all day
Was this the new side lever version of the Bantam ? If not, this is exactly what the new versions are supposed (and do) stop.
@@airgunology no it's not it's the bolt action wait till I see that Tony twat at the NEC gun show robbing bastard's
You know 70psi reaches 12ftlb right ? our rifles are anything but efficient, why are GLOBAL vehicle valve sizes all sub 4mm port size ??? why are videos about compressed air cars from a decade ago not on sale yet ?
I told you information why 12ftlb is the law , it would make a good talking point with many comments....12ftlb IS to stop peasant youths experiencing the SOUND barrier! Why is my 225lb x bow +150ftlb but my hw97k is 11ftlb? Because 12ftlb will make some science happen and they dont want millions of young fresh minds tinkering with the sound barrier god forbide they go and advance wh1ite man travel / aviation !
Arrows cant break 500fps currently, thats 630fps shy of mach 1 BUT would COMFORTABLY pass through 2stab vests and a man.....it goes entry/exit clean through a car in one door out the other...its legal because dumbing Europeans down on advanced ballistics is the only important thing.....btw pellets brake mach1 from a smooth bore , go try and find a full power smooth bore if you can . 11.6ftlb with 5gr lead free WILL sonic boom.....dumb the peasants down & make sure they cant own anything accurate at minimum front line infantry range 350meters...coincidently my 225lb x bow has zero accuracy out that far....but if it did they would be band .
The people Germany removed are completely in control of our lgbtq iss hotbed country .
Search our dangerously low birth ratio if you think im a nutter . were getting fkd my friend and all our men are faaaar to preoccupied with merch..
read that about 3 times and still completely lost as to what you are saying. All I can say is try the blue pills next time buddy.
urghhh....you're not allowed more then 12ftlb because it will allow .177s to break mach1 , they dont give a single toss about how lethal airguns are , they just down want anyone breaking the sound barrier..
Why else are crossbows unregulated and can yield +200ftlb
why is poxy 11.99ftlb the airgun limit? Sound barrier!
I know your not this slow lol , i got 40 thumbs from a comment i posted yesterday on a news channel...people from all over the world understand my written vocabulary..
The powers that be are stopping access to a simple bit of science on PURPOSE you SHEEP , blue pill means be a mindless sheep , you want me to be ignorant like yourself 😂 no thanks matey .
Who told me ? A licensed gun smith...i tell you and all i get back is derppy derrpp wahh?? Im stupid to understand you !!? 🤪derrr
Thanks for the Steve but what a load of rubbish. Customer support !!!! I asked you a simple question regarding your video and about Tony Belas clearly admitting the problem with 40ftlb .25 yet in their email to me they denied all knowledge of this problem. Sounds like you had a word with him because it’s strange how you mentioned the new car thing , he said exactly the same Dude !!!!
Thanks for the answer tho !!
@@markhoulding1938 You seem to be holding me responsible or semi responsible for this or at least your posts seem that way to me as it is all over my videos. Let me state again, I am not a rep for Brocock or on their pay roll and I am no way anything to do with their customer support. I am only answering you because you are posting this personal thing all over my videos.. I can only tell you what I know. What Tony said on my video was that as the power went up on a bolt action it began tougher to cock and so they decided to introduce a side lever as part of normal progression of a product. You seem to want to use this as some type of excuse to get out of your purchased that unfortunately was mis-timed to the new launch (That i can appreciate). It seems you are pissed because you bought just before this was announced and seem to want to let the world know and vent. Take it up with Brocock is my suggestion
Too much introduction..a prospect buyer will see & appreciate how the rifle was made.