Western Governors University Review | Best Online Colleges for Busy Adults
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- It's about time we talked about WGU in a little more detail. Are they good? Are they bad? Should you go? Let's talk.
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0:00 - Intro
0:17 - Transfer Friendliness
2:10 - Cost
3:42 - Degree Choice (Variety & Flexibility)
7:06 - Student Experience
13:02 - Overall Rating
I worked for WGU as a student mentor in the nursing program for five years and it's a good school but you must be a self-starter and focused. The courses take real work and you must know the material, it is not a degree mill. Too many people put off the work and let the end of the semester sneak up on them. I know about the coursework because I earned an M.S. in management while working there.
Way to go! Excellent path you chartered 😎
That is bullshit and it is a degree mill school. I was there for one year and transferred to Arizona State that’s right even Arizona State is better than university of 💩.
Your school advertises on daytime television you don’t even get a goddamn grade point average so good luck transferring to another school and those who get a job usually have the field experience and just want to get that degree your school is nothing but a degree factory school
I already know where I wanna go but I just come here to hear more college hacking! Loves these videos! Always gives me my motivation!
That warms our hacking hearts
Great video! Everything he says is 100% on point.
Great review as always. The proctoring does make WGU less attractive as an option.
At this point, I’m patiently waiting for your videos each week 😂😂😂
I started with WGU a couple of years back, but I realized a month later that I’d likely not be accepted to the grad school of my choice. Thanks to your videos, I discovered UMPI, and I just started my Sophia courses 4 days ago……and I’m 21 credits in already! Keep the great content coming!
@pandaangry1267 true, however the grad school of my choice does.
Glad we can help! You got this!
What is umpi
@@user-yr6xc7gg8q the University of Maine at Presque Isle
@pandaangry1267 for real?
Great video, thanks! I noticed WGU offers certifications as part of the course (technology). Seems like it would be good to knock out 2 things at once
Definitely! And they also give credit towards your degree if you’ve earned certain that are included in their curriculum. :) Pretty rad.
I had a lot of issues just dealing with the transfer credits, ultimately decided after seeing a lot of negative reviews about the proctored exams and the proctors themselves specifically, to go with UMPI, and am very happy with that decision.
i wish i would've seen that early too. all i heard was the good things but now i'm in the process of switching from wgu to umpi
I'm attending WGU and yes the proctor the first month was a challenge but after that it was easy and I actually look forward to proctor test :) I do agree you have to be self motivated. You do get a mentor which keeps up with you till graduation which is awesome to have that support. Now the instructors not so much not sure the point of their job duties at WGU in my first term their was one instructor who put videos and a review sheet that actually made it a better experience but my second term there was noting like that. Best wishes to everyone
Enjoy your degree factory school I’m sorry that you’re going to this shit university put it to you this way I’m transferring to Arizona freaking state and even that looks like Harvard next to your craft school. You can respond to students while that’s academically challenging and your school advertises on daytime television. Might as well wipe your ass with your WGU degree.
Put it to you this way I wanted to hire one person and two people applied one had an engineering degree from the university of crap and the other had a degree from Purdue I sprayed up at the person and told him why are you wasting my time and why are you hearing this when you went to Western Governors ? He left the room crying, after discovering his degree was useless
Dude, you are changing lives....
Hopefully yours is included! 🥳
I did my BA in 2 terms (1 year) and just finished my MAT in 8 months! Loved it! Looking into another MA
KILLER! 🤩
For the GPA, achieving competency is equivalent to a 3.5 GPA. If for some reason you would need to list a GPA, you could list 3.5 and it would be supported by WGU.
Would love to see a review on Eastern University, it seems like the perfect alternative for someone who doesn’t like Wgu, is regionally accredited and competitively priced. 9,900 for a masters
@pandaangry1267 if you are considered “ advanced standing” the 4 classes that you don’t have to take have to be replaced by electives, all mbas from eastern require 30 credits and 10 months to complete
For accountability, you have your program mentor. And you can also schedule a 1 on 1 with your course instructor as often as necessary. If you need guidance and accountability it is there.
About to finish my MBA. I only ever had issues once with the proctor and it was on my end because my ISP had an outage just as we were starting the verification before the exam starts. I nvr failed an assessment but just from how often my mentor checks in, I am sure they are amazing if you do. My professors also reach out fairly consistently. Having gotten my undergrad from a state school, I actually prefer the flexibility at WGU. I’ve taken online, hybrid and traditional in class courses at my undergrad university and I hated the unnecessary busy work. Working a full time job, being able to knock out a class in a day has been so convenient than having to stay on top of multiple deadlines. I prefer the objective assessments only because I hate writing papers but I have had two performance assessments returned. When they that happens the grader leaves specific notes for correction. Both times it happened I made the corrections in maybe less than 30 minutes and resubmitted. They were pretty quick to get back to me that they passed. Only regret is not knowing about WGU sooner and that was before I heard about the degree hacking. Would have saved so much money.
Amazing information!! And congrats on finishing 😁😁🥳
I'm in the process of graduating from WGU (passed the capstone and just waiting on the graduate application to finalize). It's been a good experience. I mentioned the no GPA to one of the first mentor's I'd gotten when I started. Even though the courses are essentially pass/fail, you do sort of get a GPA. It's basically a 3.0, and that fact is mentioned on the transcript that you'd send to any other institution. They are also dumping Examity (the proctoring service) soon, so that'll be a welcome change. I will most likely go back there for a Master's.
Nice! Thanks for sharing 😄
To your point about lack of GPA for grad programs - you can always just do a grad program at WGU. They have Master's degrees in pretty much all of their colleges.
I’m going for a second bachelors degree with UMPI. Either political science or the business supply chain degree to complement my business admin and leadership degree I already have. Not sure where I’m going to do my masters just yet but going to wait a while before hand. I have 201 credits to transfer in so hopefully I only have to do required 30. 😂
@pandaangry1267 not yet. Have put in a ton of applications trying to get into public service. Going to do the masters eventually. I have 2 AS Degrees and the one bachelors. Trying to pivot careers that’s why.
@pandaangry1267 the other part is the time and I like the way UMPI is set up. They only have one masters which is in organizational leadership. I hope they add more. My first AS is in aviation science second is business management and bachelors is business admin and leadership. Both of which were free due to my unions free college program. I didn’t have much choice in a bachelor degree. I was pretty limited, this was the only business degree that was available with the program.
@@hanksgarage_ A little birdie told us recently UMPI does plan to add more masters options in the near future 😎
I'm about to graduate with my BS in Network Operations and Security through WGU.
WGU is designed for working professionals, and if you have a background already in the industry and need a degree to advance, it's the perfect choice. There is not a lot of hand-holding and leading you around by the nose like you'd find in a traditional school. Some people need that, some don't. I've been in IT for several years, and have earned several technical certifications on my own, so I adapted to the school's format fairly easily.
Excellent work!! 😄 Thanks for sharing
Hey buddy, new to the channel and appreciate the content.
Biweekly is every two weeks.
Semiweekly is twice a week.
Can’t be an expert at everything 😜
@@CollegeHacked No shade from me, you answered my questions so I was just hoping I could answer yours.
@@russellwbossNo shade interpreted! You’re awesome, thanks for taking the time 😄
as an Enrollment Counselor at WGU, I agree with most of what you said however, I make sure to ask the questions needed to ensure that we are a good fit. I have recommended other schools to prospective students that are looking for more specific degree than what we offer. My daughter enrolled at SNHU.
That’s amazing! You are good at your job :) If only every enrollment counselor at every school was also awesome, that would be the best.
I understand if you'd rather not, but would you be willing to answer a question about the school's Psychology program? Specifically, has WGU set up it's Psychology program in a way that supports students hoping to push their education further? I'm determined to follow through and do what most psych majors don't, move on to graduate school and become an LCSW. Even have a specialty in mind. Doing that requires that I get myself into a graduate program in the first place. Doing _that_ is greatly benefited by having a strong positive relationship with your professors, and a school like WGU seems like a shaky prospect in that regard.
I am looking for an online IT degree and WGU seems like a good option because of the certifications they give while you complete it, do you suggest any other schools that offer free certifications as you go to school?
Actually no, WGU is the main one we know of :)
The proctoring isn’t that bad. No different than Pearson Vue.
Yup. I never had issues with the wgu proctors (just one of the 3rd party proctors, ironically). Just read all of the rules and guidelines and be prepped beforehand.
One negative I do have with WGU is if you start you better not change your mind. I wanted my degree 4 years ago and decided to start with them. Life happened and although my classes started, I dropped them 30ish days in. Of course, my fault, but now I feel they’re the best school for me because of their curriculum style but I’m having to jump through hoops to reenroll. You have to do an SAP appeal to be able to use FASFA (10 business day process must have documentation), must pay any collections from prior attendance (up to a 45 day process if you can pay it off), and THEN once you complete both of those and they’re approved, there is a 60 day readmission process where it’s quite possible they may not let you come back. It’s a very stressful process.
That being said, I want to go to WGU because I’m at SNHU right now and having to write a paper every single week for every class, plus discussion posts, plus your final essay is a lot. Super writing intensive. Is there a school outside of WGU that would be a good choice that isn’t super writing intensive?
Unfortunately it’s either proctored exams or papers/projects. So UMPI and Purdue probably wouldn’t be your favorite options
In regards to WGU, we have to pay for the proctor exam on top of $4000 for 6 months. What do you think about Aspen university, the Education or Business program, or Walden university, they have a flat rate of $1500 for an education major!
Walden is a for-profit, which is the main reason we don’t recommend them (very little respect on a resume, similar to University of Phoenix). But that’s a pretty good price point :) And it would still be better than Aspen, as Walden is regionally accredited and Aspen is only nationally accredited (we Strongly recommend choosing a regionally accredited school).
Personally for myself i am choosing WGU because i work full-time, sometimes overtime, and i am motivated to get the degree as quickly as possible. Plus, money is tight. Make too much per FAFSA but too little to realistically afford more than 1 term at WGU. Hoping for scholarships, if not, i can pay out of pocket for one term and am going to finish because i absolutely have to. Desperation either creates the most motivated people or the most defeated people.
WELL SAID! 👏🏼 You got this, and feel free to utilize our discord for support/tips from other students attending WGU!
Hey I love your videos
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Is there a video for proctored exams school and essay/project based schools?
Not yet but good idea!
My main gripe was, as you hinted, that the course instructors weren't involved. It's a name attached to the class. Only a handful of CI handle all courses in the major. You just get a course showing up in your portal and are expected to read the online materials and do the tasks. They often don't even make a video to explain complex topics or how to do the tasks. For someone like me who absorbs info via in-person classes or videos, this was really disappointing. The mentor was really the MVP.
Yes, the mentor concept is so smart! Great point
See... I had a very different experience with this. An in-person class to me was a waste of time. I didn't learn much from WGU's cybersecurity degree but that is only because I am in the military for cyber. I loved their Cybersecurity degree as IT truly is do or die on your own. If you can't teach yourself through reading documentation and doing the task assigned, then odds are IT isn't for that person. However, I understand the frustration especially if you are completely new to the field. My mentor just kinda unlocked classes that I told him I wanted to do because I had proved I would just pass the class in maybe a day or 2. The one course that I had to go to the instructors multiple times on was Managing Cloud Security. That course was very unfriendly to me..
I've used the CIs a few different times and I always ask what the most efficient way is to get through the course. 99% of the CIs have been from decent (knowledgeable at a minimum) to great. Plus, you can meet with a different CI if it isn't going as well.
Edit: My mentor has 100% been the goat.
It’s weekly or bi-monthly for twice a month
Do you have to have gone to community college before going to university of main at pressure isle or wgu? If not do you recommend it anyway?
You do not have to attend community college in order to be accepted to WGU or UMPI! It can be a good option for people who feel it would be a good way to practice study habits before transferring and taking classes at the home institution that are ultimately where the whole GPA comes from, but it's probably fastest and least expensive to skip community college if you're going to either of these competency based schools. :)
@@CollegeHacked that was made incredibly simple appreciate it
I wanted to finish my degree with WGU, sadly they don't accept US Citizens living outside the USA unless you are Military. When they change I would reconsider. But I have friends that graduated from WGU and loved it.
WGU I believe was intended to give people majors that translates into real jobs opportunities. It’s more like a vocational college in a sense of limited degrees but that was intentional if you read their mission statement.
Originally, yes! Now they have several programmatic accreditations and have grown far beyond their vocational school roots 😄
Do schools like medical school or physician assistant school will accept the classes you did at wgu for acceptance for their program?
Unfortunately, virtually all professional health programs (PT, OT, PA, MD, DO, RN) require residential sciences with labs and won’t accept online versions. This changed briefly during COVID for one or two admissions cycles, but that exception looks to be over now. To be sure what your school requires, definitely do your research well ahead of time! And if you need additional help, our academic & career coach Dr. Lauren Daly applied to PA and medical schools herself and loves helping others accomplish similar goals :)
Future PA student here, you will need to have pre-requisites for this type of degree and usually they are science classes such as Anatomy, chemistry, biology, or psychology, on top of the clinical experience. I don't recommend you take those online since many of them will require lab work or more in person activities that you can't do online. Also you won't be competitive when you apply. They will consider someone else over you and this schools are very particular about who they want. I'm taking all my pre-requisites in person at my community college. I'm doing a degree in Business Healthcare, as well as getting my CNA, and doing community service so that I can be competitive once I apply. My suggestion is you speak with the school so they can give you advice on what to do before applying. Good luck.
I am looking to attend WGU I pass the administration so I’ve been admitted finally the one thing I am concerned about is They wasn’t able to get my full associates credits. I guess with certain classes from the university of Phoenix don’t count because from the looks of it I think I was able to transfer they said 36 credits. I’m considering Strayer university because I was able to transfer more credits but I want to go to WGU because I most likely will get a job with the degree I have but straight University looks cheaper based on with the scholarship and stuff which one would you recommend but I most likely leaning towards WGU simply because I wanna actually get a good job
Stick with WGU :) Like you mentioned, they are the better option if the goal is genuinely to learn and be prepared for a job after. The loss of credit you’re running into is because WGU doesn’t have a free elective section in their degrees, so the only classes that can transfer into one of their majors are classes that directly overlap with what each degree requires. But skipping the free electives means even more classes better preparing you for a job after! It’s all about the highest order goal you have, and for you, it sounds like that is gaining great skills to take into the workforce. So lean into that goal and feel good about it! 💪🏼
@@CollegeHacked thank you I wasn’t too sure but yeah, WGU is the way to go. One of the classes I find interesting is the political United States communications or if that’s what it’s called. I’ll have to go back and look, but that will be interesting. I am looking forward to seeing how it goes, and like you said in a video, I still think WGU is cheaper considering the amount of value you get out of your diploma. I want to work for Apple so I went for a business and IT.
@@visuallyimpairedtechandmor2921 Nice! Love the backwards planning and clear goal setting 💪
Their rather "unique" enrollment process really put me off. I checked around online and people are reporting that my experience with WGU's enrollment process is not at all abnormal. Having to speak to a so-called "Enrollment Councilor" on the phone just to get your foot in the door after applying, okay I can do that, but wait, the enrollment councilor never calls you on the agreed-upon time, and you can't ever call them yourself, and when you finally do get them on the phone, they're late, and you can't hear them because their phone is so bad that it sounds like they're shouting into a vacuum cleaner... okay, maybe you can get used to it and start to make out some words and get a general sense of what they're saying. But then you get disconnected. After about two weeks of getting the run-around, I gave up. A college that is this poorly organized in the enrollment process can't be very good in the parts that really matter.
This is one of the worst, most chaotic college enrollment seasons ever recorded. Major changes were made to the FAFSA for the first time in decades that ended up causing a lot of delays and bugs, meaning colleges have pushed back their enrollment deadlines to cope with a non-functioning FAFSA and are rushing to get everyone in the door and sorted. There’s also a ton of fighting about DEI initiatives, and confusion about standardized test requirements… none of that excuses the poor customer service you received, but it might help give you context for why it’s worse right now than normal.
@@CollegeHackedOh, I applied in 2021, lol.
@@rayecastLOL guess they just plain dropped the ball!
You forgot to mention their payment plan options. 625.83 per month for six months, or 938.75 per month for nine months
Have you done a video on UAGC?
There are better schools for hacking :)
I’m at WGU and on my last term and I don’t like how they work and operate! Especially for the 3rd party exams and test! And the mentors as well! I can’t wait to start at SNHU in Jan 2024 for cyber security BS degree! 📜 😊💯
SNHU has solid IT and Tech programs-congrats on making a switch you’re excited about!! 🥳💪🏼
Wgu was a no after they only accepted 34 credits. SNHU accepted 81 credits.
Really
@@morechip2949 Really. I just started my second term at SNHU and I love it.
I experienced something similar, Snhu accepted 90 credits when Wgu was only going to give me 45, even with 30 of them being a part of the retail management certificate that they are partnered with. I have 46 units from traditional brick and mortar colleges and 44 from Sophia. I plan on graduating from Snhu in March with my bachelor’s in business administration and plan to do either Wgu or Eastern university for my MBA. I currently work retail as an assistant manager at Target and would like to reach director level or higher and I would like to be and adjunct business teacher on the side.
@@morechip2949 That's what happens when you have no free electives section! 😅 WGU is a better option for those with little to no transfer credit.
@@CollegeHackedare you able to do a review on Penn State World Campus
Trying to book a consultation is there any openings next week
Hey! If you need immediate help, you can sign up for an "expedient" appointment using this link: collegehacked.as.me/?appointmentType=45505185. Otherwise, we're a little backed up for our normally priced appointments. Thanks for your patience!
Which competency-based university that is budget friendly would you recommend for the MBA program?
WGU, Purdue Global
I thought biweekly meant every two weeks?
Had no issues with WGU.
Is there a video for proctored exams school and essay/project based schools?
Anything on Grand Canyon University? I am seeking my MSN. Please help.
Too expensive :) Look into WGU and Purdue Global.
Honestly? If WGU got rid of the proctored exams, I'd say it would be the best school for IT. While yes, you could schedule the exams for any time (I took the Ethics in Technology exam at 3amPT), the fact that there were constantly connection issues, the proctors were rarely understandable with distorted voices, threatened to end your exam if you so much as coughed, and one time giving me the completely wrong test and counting it as a failed attempt killed the idea of WGU for me. Kinda sad when my favorite classes in an IT program were the English Comp I and the Speech class since I was told I could write on and give a speech on any topic I wanted. Honestly now looking at UMPI's Management Information Systems BLS for the degree checkbox on company advancement requirements and augment it with industry certs.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Wish it had been better, but UMPI is an awesome school too and the BLS MIS is a great degree :)
I dont see a PhD program?
when you say "unable to attend if living outside of the united states," do you mean specifically Americans who live outside of the US or frequently travel for extended periods of time or do you mean non-US citizens?
Actually, both! At least according to them.
I thought they had a deal with US Military personnel stationed overseas in places like Germany where they can still enroll.
they might, I never asked about that specifically. but i did ask them about us citizens living overseas and they said they don't allow for that... @@tinman3586
If I did not have anything to transfer in (as I was not born a US Citizen and have only lived here for 10 years) and was choosing beween WGU and UMPI, which would people choose?
Depends on what kind of experience and major you prefer! WGU has proctored final exams, UMPI has paper/project finals, so no proctoring. Both offer pretty different major options, other than both offering business and psychology.
@@CollegeHacked Accounting is what I am looking at. Working full time in Hospital as Revenue Cycle Director and I want to have the chance to transition to CFO. Born in the UK, so no HS transcripts (just GED) and it looks like WGU gas a require to get on the account course of showing HS transcripts which will be a pain from schooling in the UK. UMPI has no such requirements. The WGU course on the other hand is MUCH more focused on the actual subject and I feel would be better actual training for the role. It's just if I can get in. I don't want to do the prep courses, I want to get started. I'll be 40 this year.
@@ldkellandshawA GED is fine for WGU! In the US, high school transcripts are synonymous with a GED :) Same thing, but some schools don’t make that super clear: As long as you live in the US, WGU should be fine. Just remember you have to hack everything first before you let them enroll you in courses or you’ll get locked out of transferring in credit. You can apply and get accepted first, then pause to hack before enrolling :) You got this!
@@CollegeHacked Thanks! There is an additional requirement for college readiness though on the Accounting course. I guess all I can do is apply and see. I was just stunned that I could pass the GED with no subject less than a 165 20 odd years after leaving school!! :)
@@ldkellandshaw Sounds like you're a smart cookie! 😎 Definitely apply and see, the more information you gather the better a decision you'll be able to make. :)
Is there a WGU equivalent for international students?
UMPI :)
What do you think of the article “tips and tricks: wgu caught defrauding taxpayers” by johann neem?
At the risk of sounding cavalier, that article was heavily dramatized. What it’s describing is how WGU essentially invented competency based education and the subsequent struggle they went through figuring out how to make it palatable to the DOE. Every competency based school now runs like they do, with student check-ins to remain compliant with regulations dictating the distribution of federal financial aid. The article comes from the perspective of an academic elitist who didn’t like the idea of CBE. We are all entitled to our opinions. :)
NO GPA= THen which university would you recommend for graduate degrees
We still recommend WGU, it’s just something to be aware of :)
Don’t go to this degree factory school! They advertise on daytime television and their degree factory school what they don’t tell you is the people who get jobs have the experience and they just need the degree to check off the last thing on the box most of their classes are you don’t even gove you a GPA.
Universities law or your degree but it’s competency based all you have to do is answer their stupid weekly question and responded to students.
At the end of the day none of the Utah schools including: Brigham Young University, the Univetsity of Utah, Utah State , Webber State University or University of Southern Utah, want anything to do with WGU.
Disagree, but we all have our opinions :)
@@CollegeHacked You are free to disagree, i am not mad at you. And WGU is good for some people especially those people who have the field experience, but they’re lacking the degree it’s good for working individuals as well.
For me however, i want to teamster to John’s Hopkins PhD. Yes JHU will honor WGU but you will have no GPA. At ASU, they will honor your GPA.
Graduating classes is easy. It is competency based so they’re just looking for basic competency all you have to do is answer the question of the week and respond to two students. Also, there is a reason why nome of the the Utah schools be it: BYU, U of U, U State or Weber St want anything to do with WGI. And we can agree to disagree , we are all entitled to our opinions, like you said.
I have read some bad reviews. I do not know seems too good to be true.
Every school out there will have good and bad reviews :) WGU is a good school, not the worst or the best, but solid.
What about people who live in U.S. territories?
They are now accepting Canadians :) Not sure about territories.
@@CollegeHacked are they not accepting students from africa ? for online course ?
@@benjaminbvalani1102 That is correct, unfortunately. :) We also wish they did.
I recently talked to someone at WGU and the amount of transfer credit they accept is only 50% of degree program. You must complete 50% of degree program at WGU
Is that their master's degree maybe?
Fake news. They take 75%. For my personal situation, I transferred in 84 credits and did 38 at WGU.
Realistically how fast can someone get a degree here? If they have no transfer credits
“Real” has a lot of definitions :) It depends on many factors, how many hours a week you have for school and how quickly you learn. But it’s possible in 2 years for many people.
Each degree has an approximate time to complete on the website (I believe it's taken from the average time students take to complete it). All in all, it's entirely up to how quickly you absorb information and how much time you are willing to dedicate.
The reviewer is overly kind in this review. Very accommodating for WGU. Do your research. Do not waste your money with this school.
Thanks for your comment! We don’t get any sort of compensation for our reviews, so they are based on the experience our clients report having, and our interaction with the school. Since you have such a strong opinion about them, we’d love to hear more about why if you’re willing to share.
There's no link for clep and co in the video
The little "i" in a circle in the top right corner.
@@CollegeHackedwe know. It isn’t there.
@@rabbi6225 That's super weird. I literally just clicked on it. Sorry it's acting up!
@@CollegeHacked I’m on iOS. So maybe that’s the problem. Could be OP is too.
How are people able to finish these courses so fast? I feel like I’m too dumb to finish one class in two months lol
Chances are very good that you aren’t dumb, just disorganized when it comes to academics. Academia is a whole world and learning is actually a skill you cultivate through intentional mental effort and good habits. It’s actually really hard when you first start, but like a muscle you get quicker and more efficient with time. Don’t give up!
@@CollegeHacked I see, thank you!
Bi monthly
Yep yep
They specifically limited the types of courses that you can take because they wanted degrees that will be extremely in demand. So well, it does suck that they are limited for some people they specifically do it so that people aren’t taking throwaway liberal art degrees
WGU administration, is that you?? 😜
Damn it WGU looked so good, until you said US citizens only...
11:21
Are there any Proctor Exam preps that can train you on how to succeed in passing Proctor Exams like WGU?
If not, then that’ll be another stream of income for you guys.
😂 Love it!