SonicModell AR Wing PRO: Building and the plan for the maiden flight
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Link to it on Banggood: bit.ly/2HeWdi3 also listed on other SonicModell resellers too..
www.sonicmodel... for full details!
I setup INAV using this process: • INAV for Beginners (2020)
I setup the DJI HD system using this process: • 'No Hype' DJI Digital ...
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Just maidened mine today. Very impressive, efficient and easy to fly.
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Bought mine from getfpv yesterday. Arriving Thursday... built my original AR wing with your help.. looking forward to the 2.0
I bought this exact model..
Maiden tomorrow ...
Best of luck
Sir I just want to say that you are Best in this field, l❤️ve from India, please accept it😇
Great work Lee as always.will be epic in dji. We were all fortunate enough to fly a session with them.managed to get a pro pilot I know who changed my life to come give the group a few tips etc and they fly dji.dreamy.need lotto winnings for em though lol.stay safe my friend
Pa I love your channel
Thanks Lee, if you ever get stuck for someone to help you film/launch let me know, I'm only down the road. I was hoping to have my Ar wing in the next week or two, but BG has delayed the shipping.
Looking good, Lee....standing by with great anticipation! Cheers:-)
I did watched your first review and just watched Andrew Newton’s initial review and first thoughts, so looking forward to watching both your maidens.
Hopefully you won't have to wait long! :D
Nice model! Got one too, only mine is 950AUW
Look forward to this one fly!.
Send it to me XD, the weather in Germany is great.
Keep in mind the wingarea is only 14 dm´2, which equals a wing loading of roughly 75gr/dm2 which is kinda high.
The Stall characteristic is kinda nasty, according to b14ckyy's Tech but I purchased one because I like to try a Wing (probably the only kind of Airplane I have not flown).
Shipping delayed until November 15 I think.
Cheers
Nik
I'm looking forward to the maiden, Lee! 😊
Have fun with it!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
looking forward to your maiden, still holding of getting this, and having seen a couple of maidens now its kinda looking like it still has a bit of bobbing/wobble, maybe thats just a fact with any flying wing, though my Rambler seems pretty decent on the front
That is why I try and wait for the perfect weather.. All planes will wander in the wind. Fingers crossed that I can maiden it before lockdown #2 starts on Thursday here in the UK..
Mine has finally arrived, had to pay an extra £12 for vat and RM handling! But a very nice kit. The box was smaller than I expected, it was well packaged though. Going to fit the Kopilot in mine with VC400 up front.
So a new problem, the battery! I have two batteries to chose from, both turnigy graphene, 2.2 3s, fits side ways but the strap is too long to grip itself! 4.0 3s, too long to fit inside sideways! Hmmmmm must think about only 4 s batteries....that fit sideways, also the Kopilot vc400 will only fit if I butcher the camera hole.
I think that this wing could be a total winner if it was made of white foam, and had led channels and led lights to fly at dusk . I'd buy it right away (maybe a special edition ;))
Orbit neon?
@@Painless360 I don't like the design of that one, however I love the aerodynamics of this arwing pro! And a white plane looks better with paint on it! (my personal opinion)
They've since released a white foam version!
I'm missing something here. Videos about this wing PNP kit say it's DJI FPV ready and the manual specifically states it can accommodate an Air Unit without modification, but the supplied electronics have a 5v 3A BEC. This is not enough voltage to power an Air Unit. Planning to add a ZOHD Kopilot Lite, but I don't see any way to power it through that either. 🤔
Sounds like you're a little confused. Air units are powered from the same battery that you use to fly... Happy flying
waiting for it to come ,,
Cant wait. Mine is stuck in the states
There are now a few STL prints on thingy for us old school guys with the action cams
Hi there, I just finished building this Wing and find it to be unusually tail heavy. I am using a 3000mah 4S(the biggest battery i can get to fit the compartment) and have put an unusual amount of lead in the nose area to balance it.
It is designed for a heavy 7000mAh LI-ION pack and a GoPro.. That battery probably isn't anywhere close enough to what is needed..
You can go as heavy as you want. This plane would still fly if it was made out of batteries 😂
Waiting for maiden 👍👀🇭🇷
Hi Lee!! Thank you for the video!!! That wing looks very good!! A well thought-out design! (finally) personally, I'd like to see how to put CA hinges on it, since I've no idea what type of CA to use and how to cut into the foam!! Cheers!! (I really am considering getting one of these brilliant planes!!
I've just used some on a model. Dang it! I'll make a video on them. They are easy to use: cut a slot in the aileron, push home the hinge halfway, cut a slot on the model and then push the hinges in so that they are sat level, flex the control a little and dribble some thin foam safe CA glue onto the hinge. It'll be wicked into the slots by the hinge and lock it all in place.. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 thank you Lee!! Goodnight!!
Not really sure what I am doing wrong with mine. I can't get a successful launch or balance. I have the AR Mini and it launches like a dream. I have been through two frames and now they are both glued and laminated to try and get stable but not having any luck. Wish there was someone local that had a working one so I could get some tips but no one local to me has even broken theirs out of their boxes. Will try again but once I break the two frames I give up and will move all of the electronics to something else.
Not sure what's wrong as with the CG in the right placement and a nice high throttle level for Autolaunch it works well. See my video on how I set up Autolaunch. You still need a decent, level throw that isn't going to rotate the model like a Frisbee though. Best of luck
I can not find you maiden video.
But nice content so far :)
It's on here. Please see this video - ruclips.net/video/P4soR6QgOk0/видео.html - that should help you find those videos of mine and help you find the answers you need quickly
@@Painless360 Thank you
I'm trying to build a 18650 for it, how many cells would you suggest I include in the pack? Great video as usual.
Grab 8 Sony vtc6 make a 4s 6000. Or get a zohd pack
Hey there Lee! I would also like to use a dji fpv system on this wing. What do you think about using a GoPro in the main nose camera spot and a smaller caddx vista and dji camera on the left side pod and fpv cam bay?
That would work fine but if you wanted to get the camera into the side pod but keep the air unit on the top then you'd need the longer camera cable from DJI..
Tomorrow looks like a potential maiden day, been waiting a month to maiden my Disco Dart XL and the 250G :(
I have a plan - stay tuned! :D
Can we use 2806.5 1250KV Brushless Motor with 7-8inch props on AR wing pro for efficient cruising?
That depends. The PNP comes with a 2216 1400KV motor with an 8x5 prop. I'd use something like eCalc to see what the results are for the two setups. Looking at some of the other popular setups 1400KV seems to be a common choice and the original setup was designed to be very efficient out of the box.. Best of luck!
I just build a folding prop for my ar wing pro using a mayatech hub and 8060 blades, I had to reverse motor direction to get any thrust. Standing a rear of plane the motor is now turning clockwise, is you setup the same? Thanks for any information
Not sure, check out my 'Folding Prop 101' video for how I use them here... Happy flying
Hi Lee, Amazing videos as always... just wondering if you think this would make a good plane for mapping or if a more traditional glider would offer better stability? Cheers and best of luck with the channel!
For mapping where a downward facing camera is required, this isn't a good choice. I'd look at a more traditional fixed wing model for something like that... Happy flying!
Hi Lee, I can't see an inav preset for the ar wing pro, is it ok to use the mini drak, or would you suggest something else?
Just finished build my ar wing pro, what do recommend to set the elevon reflex at? The sheet says 1.5-2mm at level. Should that be 1.5-2mm up from level or following the profile of the wing? Cheers
I'd set it a few mm proud of the trailing edge. It doesn't need a lot or 'up'..
@@Painless360 thanks
What would be the best GPS to use
For INAV you'll see me using a few in the builds. M8N, Matek GPS and BN220.. Best of luck
Ha durable upto 220kmh that's insane mines ready for a maiden with only basic controller without any safe function or gyro but do you feel it would be better with one or is wing loading enough ? im useing 2217 2700kv with 6x4apc on 4s with 60amp esc i do expect it to really boogie but, i run 4s on 2450kv in my bixler and thats crazy power hence big esc
Best of luck with the maiden flight! I've only flown them with the stock setup... Happy flying
is 50c enough of a discharge rate when shopping for 4s 3300mah lipos for this? just got a white model on the way I'm excited 😀
This model was designed for LI-ION packs with much lower discharge levels so something like that would be easily enough.. Best of luck!
I bought one, PNP version. Have I’ve been ripped off? The box says KIT, and nothing is preinstalled although the PNP part are included separately. The servos are not metal gear unlike stated in the specifications sheet in the box. The ailerons are warped and the tip of one aileron is badly bent. Wouldn’t a PNP version come with preinstalled servos and horns, with motor and ESC also preinstalled? I got the PNP version from AliExpress, the BangFPV Store. Can I send a few pics to you? I’d appreciate your opinion.
See my video on it where I unbox my PNP version where everything came installed. It us odd that the box says kit. Sounds like they just added some electronics into a kit box and shipped it... Weirdly this is how the Eachine version ships too... What is ZOHD doing I wonder?
I checked the advertisement. Sadly it says the PNP kit is the basic AR Wing Pro KIT, with the power pack added and uninstalled motor, ESC and so on. Still, the ad states metal gear servos included and the ailerons really are defective. I started a dispute on AliExpress. Let’s see what they suggest. Pretty disappointed, since I really wanted PNP, metal gear servos and good quality wings(ailerons). I have other zohd PNP kits, they came preinstalled and the epp parts were in mint condition.
Our build is progressing well, with a Matek F405 WMN FC running iNav 6 and HD Zero HD setup. Since this is our first iNav model [after years of Betaflight on quads] I've been searching for a sample iNav tune to get started with. Things like autolaunch setting and pitch/roll mixes are a bit foreign. Did you even publish your iNav tune for the AR Wing Pro, or is there one out there you'd recommend? All help greatly appreciated. CHeers!
The default setting in INAV will get you flying. There are issues using another pilots tune on fixed wing, even more than copying PIDs on a quad. For it to work the layout, CG, throws, servo midpoints, flying style and setup need to be identical. Autotune is easy to do and tuning isn't as critical on a fixed wing compared to a Quad. Happy flying
@@Painless360Understood. Will give the defaults a shot. I have your iNav maiden tuning ready to go. Cheers.
Have you still been using the 8x5 folding prop on the ARP or have you since changed the size or pitch? Ordering the props now and was curious. Thanks!
I can't order from Banggood because shipping time is too long to my country. If they have Taobao store please tell me.
Hello Thank you for this wing. I recieve my Ar wing pro today and I 'm very happy. Can you share your inav diff or dump to save time to built my wing. What is the best piff setting,... Thank you.
I'm flying in manual a lot so it's not tuned. I used the same steps I showed in my INAV for beginners 2020 series to set it up.. best of luck
What kind of flight times are you getting?
Depends on the battery. See the maiden video.. best of luck
What is better inav or ardupilot?
It depends on what you mean by better. See my video comparing the two and looking at instances where you'd use one over the other..
I come from building quads, one thing I haven't figured out yet about the wings, what method do you use to mount the flight controller to the wing?
Double sided foam tape usually.. Happy flying
Would you please provide some details for the folding Aero naut prop? I'm placing an order with 3DXR but haven't received the Sonic Model Pro yet. Seems like all the images I see for the kit suggest that the folding prop is standard. Thanks again for all the excellent videos!
I use the 38mm hub and blades of the same spec. Make sure that the hub and blades both have the same blade root size (there are 8mm and 6mm and not interchangeable). See my 3D printed inserts on Thingiverse.
@@Painless360 Thank you!
Thanks for that looking forward to getting mine. To correct the attitude in loiter is that board angle that you adjust?
Yes, see my INAV for beginners 2020 series...
Hi what gps do you use with the matek FC. I'm looking to purchase this www.getfpv.com/matek-ublox-sam-m8q-gps-module.html but it's says the BF doesn't support RTH. Can you advice me on this.
BF has a very basic 'GPS rescue'
Hi! Do you think it's possible to use the servo ground as a common ground for Vtx or rx, and thus have an additional wire to use with Smartaudio or crossfire, when these devices are in the wings pockets? Thx
Possible but I have not tried it.
I see no way to wire a receiver or vtx out in the wings without sharing from one of the ground or voltage pins, but maybe I'm missing something? Thanks for all your videos
ORDERED mine oct. 1st. asked there support when there comming to the united states this is there reply:
"we've got more of them on order now and hope to see them in stock in the next 2-3 months. they are part of a large container order and take longer to get to us." just incase u were wandering when they were comming.
Hi Lee, I'm nearly ready to maiden my AR Pro - subject to weather and lockdown restrictions!! you mentioned a 3d print for adding weights in the video but i can't seem to find it on Thingiverse?
As you asked so nicely - here is a link :D www.dropbox.com/s/6u30g8p3snuuul3/AR%20Wing%20Pro%20front%20bay%20blank%20v0.1.stl?dl=0
@@Painless360 You're amazing Lee, thank you.
Where did you purchase the hub from?
I got mine from 3DXR..
ask them to send you one to test in windy weather.
It'll get flown in that once it's had its first setup flight... Happy flying
Hello from Greece. I would like to ask if you would recommend this wing for a novice pilot or should i get the zohd drift?
A wing isn't a great first fixed wing. Something like the Drift, Bixler etc. are more forgiving choices..
@@Painless360 Thank you for your reply!
Question: will the servos that come on the kit version take 7v? Or the standard 5
Thanks in advance
I'm running them on 5v here.. It doesn't say in the listing that they are HV servos..
@@Painless360 These new Matek boards have me wondering things I never thought about before... thanks for all your help. Keep up the great work
Good morning, you never mention as I am aware of the use of TBS Crossfire Diversity nano rx for the long-range build, I would like to know if it's much better than the TBS nano receiver or it's a waste of money for this kind of aircraft.
Regard
Check out my Crossfire series ;)
@@Painless360 thanks
any chance we could get links to your folding props?
I'm using Aeronaut 38mm Prop Hub 7242/21 and Aeronaut 8 x 5 CAM Carbon Folding Prop Blades. See my video on folding props..
@@Painless360 and that can be used with the stock motor right
With the 3D printed adapters shown, yes.
Seriously I don't know What is frisbee strye launching?🤔
I'll show that in the maiden video. Or you can check out my Autolaunch video.. Happy flying
Do planes even fly without a flight controller? Mine don't.
:D