King's a WHAT!?! The Owl House 2x17 Episode 17: Edge of the World Reaction
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Mega spoilers!😉
Mega spoilers!!
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-Mega spoilers-
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
WOW. You went there huh?
How dare you
Whyyyyy
I’m gonna not open this cause the wink is sus
Grrrrr
The most shocking thing is: considering the sizes of their skull helmets/masks and all the skulls in the collector shrine, the Titantrappers must have killed countless BABY TITANS and juveniles
Imagine you are a titan and get hunted by an army casually wearing your babys skulls and fur as camouflage
exactly what I was going to point out, a room full of dead children, and messed up, its clear only the Collector who they called the Grand Huntsman was likely able to take down a fully grown Titan which are miles tall, so these witches (who timeline wise must then as a group predate the Boiling Isles), so every Titan body likely causes new life to emerge from it as demons and witches, and these huntsmen would then be hunting and killing all the children of these Titans.
wow! a "fun" fact more horrifying than the fact that belos has killed multiple golden guards! i love the on-screen implication of a bunch of murdered children in my cartoons.
Pretty sure the fur is artificial or sourced from somewhere else. The "Son of the boiling isles" poster means that fur would have to be much older than the deadwardian era
Or maybe the Titans can change size?
Actually, titan trappers said they have never killed a titan (at the end of the episode the leader says if they finally kill king they can finally call themselves titan slayers)
Most likely the grand huntsman (aka the collector may have done the hunting since I don't think it's them)
This show does a really stellar job at taking plot developments filled with promise and hope, and turning them into something horrifying.
I see what you did there and I agree they do a STELLAR job
@@naturesgale *SUS EYES*
YESSS WHAT IS UP WITH THAT!?!?! Poor King ;.; Our poor lil baby
the fact that our little baby titan always looked for his father while his father's corpse was literally under his feet all the time
The funny thing is that the ending of the episode also explains why Belos never really attacked the owl house. Because he knew that he needed Luz to go back in time to teach him the lights glyph. Since it is impossible to change time, it would mean that he knew that Luz would have plot amour up to this point. The same for Lilith. That's why he made her a coven head for the emperos coven, to controll her and to get rid of the owl lady. But since he found out Luz lived with Eda, it would mean that she has semi plot amour, since it would be unlikely for Luz to go into the time pool if she was occupied with saving Eda or acting revenge on him. Normally time travel plots are really messy, but this time, it kinda explained a lot.
And since hollow mind gave him confirmation that luz had already gone back in time, he didn’t need her anymore, so he was free to attack
Exactly what I've been telling everyone. This means that events are predetermined. Since the timeline in this show cannot be changed, and any action done in the past, was already done, and will always be done. They've already proven this within the show. That means Belos literally COULDN'T kill Luz or Lilith before they went back in time. And if he locked them up, they were guaranteed to escape. No matter what any character did to interfere, it was never going to prevent what happened, it would always lead directly to it. That means every action, every reaction, every idea, and every thought any character has ever had, was already destined to happen too. The timeline was already written for them, and they were merely playing their part in it. Their lives are basically scripted without them knowing it, even the thoughts they haven't yet conceived of. If this wasn't the case, Belos wouldn't have been Emperor before Luz went back in time (or before she was even born) and him becoming Emperor would have changed the future events, since a lot of Luz's actions were in response to things Belos/Philip did, including why she time traveled in the first place. This just proves free will doesn't exist in this universe.
i concoure:
free will does exist,
alpite only partiel
as we can not change the cours of histori
we can decide on how fast or in what condition we arive at oure destination so the outcome may not be set in stone but is laid out roughly
or like a king wo got a prophecy about his dethroning
and decides to hunt down his enemyes only to enact them and giving them the cause for his own downfall, when he could have gone and embrace the change only to find out the the dethroning was ment to be the change of ruler as of a natural responce for retirement
@@ShizuruNakatsu The universe is scripted! All events are predetermined! It's just like a story, a movie, or a TV show!
@@boghag Thanks, Tiny Nose 😁
So a bright point: King only really knew he had a Dad potentially out there. But in his dream he also conjured up younger siblings. Because he already has a mom (Eda) and already considers Luz his older sister. So he was filling out the empty spots.
OH MY GOSH MY HEART YES THANK YOU I DIDNT NEED IT TODAY NO.
"This better not be a case of everybody worships so they dress up like..." Don't worry, it's not. It's much, much worse.
You know, if Luz and King hadn't gone when they did, they would've been in real danger of getting captured during the emperor's coven's raid. So really, Hooty eating that letter, instead of delivering it right away was the fourth good deed he did in _Knock, Knock, Knockin' on Hooty's Door._
Eating the letter would have kept him away the trappers too!
This is all I think about whenever I see a new reaction video for 2x08.
@@longgonelocust2333 But King needed to know the truth to undermine Belos.
the raid was only successful because hooty was away. if hooty had stayed at the owl house, he couldve defended it effortlessly
Clever move from Dana to make us all trust completely in Hooty after this. What fools we were...
"You're a Titan, King."
"I'm a wot?"
Real talk, I love Eda and Lilith's little moment in this episode. Eda being so afraid for the kids but not wanting to show that in front of them, and Lilith hesitating a bit before trying to comfort her, for the first time in years.
"A titan. And a thumpin' good one, I'd wager, once you train up a bit."
It's amazing how King's dad was actually introduced in Episode 1 ;)
And in the background of every episode.
Lol
“The lost son of the boiling isles” on the poster for y’all who didn’t piece it together
BAHAHAHAHAHA How do we know its his "DAD" tho? it could be his mum? but yes, that was very good now I understand that reference
I don't think the boiling isles titan is King's dad.
That titan has been dead for a VERY long time.
Never trust a Disney character named Bill
True
What about Bill Green
Imagine if Hooty hadn't swallowed the letter back in episode 8. They would have set out on the adventure without knowing about the Collector and without the urgency to defeat Belos. Luz might not have been able to puzzle together the truth, and they might not even have needed to visit Bill and have him serve up the exposition - King would totally have been sacrificed without any of them catching on.
Hooty coming in clutch again. We thought he was 3/4 in that episode but he was actually perfect.
How dare they make King call Luz "sister" so casually???!!!! They can't just melt my heart and move on!!!
“And it shines in nine hues” vs “When you paint the land in nine bright hues”
Principal Bump handed one of those zigzag knives to Willow when he wanted her to dissect Luz and Luz found one in the Owl House when she was preparing to rescue Eda in the season 1 finale, so it's probably just a common style of knife in the demon realm.
And the “story time and apple slices” scene
@Fantasy Squad that was a different knife. It looked more like a switch blade
@@gunstrokethecybertronian8659 I thought it looked the same but I’m dumb 😃
Just so you know, that knife has a name. It’s called a kris knife and was historically used in ritualistic sacrifices.
"and this is Hooty the......door" low-key one of my favorite lines😂
Headcanon/theory: The titan skeleton posed in the tower was the Bat Queen's original owner. A common theory was that the Boiling Isles Titan was, but that's been directly addressed by the crew as not true since he's too big, but that smaller titan would've been about the right size. I also like to think that in life, the Titan sounded like how King's father did in his dream, or at least that he'd be voiced by Alex Hirsch if we ever hear his voice (King's dream father, like King, is voiced by Hirsch). I don't really expect that we'll ever hear his voice, but it doesn't seem impossible.
The shrine built from the bones of King's murdered siblings and the fact that there's a genocidal cult wearing the skulls of those same murdered children as hats... Even if it's their ancestors who did it and not them themselves, this whole thing is so messed up. POOR KING.
Codes:
"Seething seas and puppet strings. He no longer dreams of Kings. As above rush darkened skies. As"
"SEEK THE KEY, FEAR THE"
This episode does imply King can indeed survive the Boiling Sea. When he's underneath the waterfall of boiling water, it doesn't bother him at all, but the trapper that falls in comes out glowing red and steaming. One of the many little hints in this episode that he and the trappers aren't the same thing before the big reveal.
So, yeah, King is a titan. Which kind of... goes against the expectations you might have had about what titans are like, since he's a little fluffy thing that makes silly sounds, eats trash, tells dumb jokes... And the episode implies that, yeah, titans are kind of just that but bigger. The perception of them as gods seems to be very wrong. It's actually kind of a funny thing to imagine, but people in Bonesborough have DEFINITELY been woken up in the night by a baby titan going through their trash.
My 8-year-old sister predicted King being a titan in S1E3 with only knowing that King's dad was dead (she knew he was young and asked about his parents, I didn't tell her much), before we even met Willow. That's it, that's all she knew, it was the first day she watched the show. I didn't tell her she was right but she figured it out and I'm pretty sure she kept it in mind the whole time because she was not REMOTELY surprised by King not actually being a demon in S2E8. Or when we got to this episode.
Do you mean the image on the wall of King’s castle? I’m pretty sure that’s actually a titan trapper. The image had a titan skull but a human/witch body.
@@JNDReacts No, I'm talking about the titan skeleton that's in the tower in this episode. That mural is definitely a titan trapper fighting a titan.
Our little king has one heck of a growth spurt coming up. I am so glad they are eventually able to find the most wholesome mentor to take him on a quest across the isles.
All hail STEVE
@@naturesgale Steve, the older brother mentor we didn't know King needed.
I don't think he'll get that big for a long time
STEEEEVE
ITS SO CUTEE
Daddy King wearing the collar was give-away that this was a dream. We already know King got his from Eda when she adopted him, so his dad wouldnt have one.
Crikey! They really are tying up all the loose ends for king before king's tide. Worst part is that sacrifice scene is from his perspective. So heartwrenching 😭
I’m so happy you caught the foreshadowing line from Hooty about ‘Hearing the movement at the edge of the forest’ or however he phrased it. Like no one else ever does XD
You know, the fact every one of the Titan Hunters are wearing human sized Titan skulls, unless they are handmade skulls, that doesn’t spell good things about how old the titans that were killed probably were considering how big they get…
I loved Hooty’s deadpan face when Luz tried that device in Bill’s room and it failed 🤣
‘And then we get to play catch right?’ All King wanted was to play catch 😢 poor guy.
When I watched that: NU THEY KILL DA BABAS (I did say it like that, I lost all sense of English lol)
Can’t wait for her to get to King fighting his inner demons by teaching the collector and Bellos how to tap dance. Which is quite hard given the fact that shadows can’t wear tap shoes 😔 it’s a very heart warming moment which redeems both of them!
Who knew that’s all it took to redeem a murderous genocidal maniac
That tap dance sequence confirmed my theory that the Titans are a subtype of Bug Demons.
Ah the episode were you realize that Hooty did the right thing in episode 8
RIGHT!?
I can't wait for the next episode, where Hooty realises he took a blood sample from King back in a certain "filler" episode, and that that is technically Titan's Blood and they've had it the whole time. So they use it to make a new portal to the human world, and Luz can finally bring Amity there and show her around like she always said she would. It's just a shame Luz has to stay there because she made that promise to her mother...
😮 That just made me think of something that I’m now curious about. Thank you for this ^^
Made me cry
😭
I genuinely thought that blood sample would be a plot point somehow
mosco:
me: "did she not figure out it's a dream? oh, this is gonna be good!"
4:05 see? fun! =D
The owl house does an amazing job combining both comedy and horror into all of their episodes
Here's a fun thing to think about : The skulls in the shrine and that the titan hunters are wearing are all smaller/about kings size instead of gigantic, implying they might have been primarily titan children
Either that or the island titans had something weird happen to make them so big.
I'm going with different sub species and millions of years of evolution. We're talking the difference between a T-Rex and a chicken.
King's Tower had been raided. King was the only one untouched because his egg was in the topmost room, which was sealed to only unlock with the touch of a living Titan.
@@wtimmins maybe they crack and shed them… Tareq’s is cracked!
The titan skull in the background of Titan Trapper Island is the same as the one in the owl beast’s memory of being trapped by the Collector. This is near where it happened.
So remember a while ago, somebody left a comment along the lines of "King's dad is in the background as early as episode 1 if you know where to look?"
When she said, "it'll get King out of danger as well," I almost spit out my drink lol. It did not end up getting him out of danger XD
The dream segment was SO MEAN
IT WAS SO MEAN I LOST MY SHIIIIIII hahahahaha
Those moments of Lilith and Hooty's friendship are so comforting to me...
They deserves so much screentime...
I can't remember where I read it, but I think I read somewhere that outside of the show, one of the writers or someone in the development team confirmed that the boiling isles skeleton IS kings dad
The fact that King and the gang LIVES ON his dad's dead body is just traumatizing-
He was looking for his dad so much only to realize he was on him-
The code word for this episode is 'As', leaving the message at "Seething Seas And Puppet Strings, He No Longer Dreams Of Kings. As Above Rush Darkened Skies, As-"
And you've reached the end of the second title word- 'The', leaving that message at "Seek The Key. Fear The-"
Also an interesting note- the Titan they landed on was the same skull that you could see in the Owl Best flashback, implying that the Owl Beast came from this Island. Also the village is laid out in a crescent moon shape for the Collector. And yes, it is implied in this episode that King is the son of the Boiling Isles Titan, which is why he said 'hi' to it when they returned- it's his dad.
Eda is right.. Luz and King are only 14 and 8 years old :(
King saying "Then we get to play catch right?" 19:43 RIGHT BEFORE THEY WERE TRYNNA KILL HIM..is so sad..it shows how regardless of what powerful species he is...He is just a kid.
Like someone commented several episodes ago, it's really subtle but King's dad has been in the background of every episode.
King in 2x08 going through demon puberty to become a Teen Titan! Also in that episode Hooty and Tinella took a blood sample and I guess none of them noticed his blood was blue?
I think they probably did notice, but didn't think it was important. There's probably actual demons with blue blood out there, and there's no way Eda and King don't know that King's blood is blue. However, if we the audience were told that specifically, instead of just having it implied by how his mouth is colored, that would've given it away instantly.
@@jakeroo123 Oh I know. I was just joking. Hooty's well established as the least observant character, idk what Tiny Nose's deal is, and I"m just assuming King never looked at the vial of blood they drew.
“Let me tell you a little bit about fan fiction”
“Go on….”
Moscoe almost every episode: i'm an idiot
Also Moscoe: have very accurate guesses, pays attention to a lot of things and thinks they’re not relevant
Please teach me your ways
I love the duality of you not realising it was a dream at the beginning of the episode, but when they got to the Titan Trappers you immediately began to point out things that are fishy 😂
🤣🤣🤣 I'm a very unique flavour of stupid 🤣🤣🤣
the thing you missed: the shockwave when they put the crystal in titans finger looks exacly same with king's voice magic
“Why are they all wearing clothes? I’m getting a bad feeling about this” out of context that’s hilarious
Oh, King just hasn't eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil yet. He's unashamed of his own nudity.
Awe hun, with your reation to the breathing method I just wanted to give you a hug.
Willow's ability to heal and nurture others is so under rated. I'm glad it was so visable in this episode.
Don't worry about not having the brain power for it, Mosco. The next episode will answer all your questions and definitely won't be a side story that leaves you hanging on the answers you wanted from this episode!
Crikey! What an episode!
I can't wait for you to find out that:
King is abducted by Belos to free the Collector after the Owl gang thwarts the Day of Unity. The Collector then collects everyone's magic away. Belos wanted them all dead, but turning them powerless was the second best thing.
Remember when Hunter called himself Caleb, well Gus actually miss heard him, saying 'kill him' which is why he was weary of Hunter, as he thought his name was Kill Him Jasper Bloodwilliams, which is also why, when Gus finds out his name is Hunter, he says, 'Oh Crickey', because he was so shocked.
Then Luz and Amity through the window, and saw Willow and Hunter giving each other the cold shoulder, and Gus being the third wheel :)
King then became a mega titan, cracking his skull, and ascending to heaven, after he pinkie swore to an ipad kid that he would play Fortnite with him forever.
Omfg that last part killed me
Can't wait for her to meet Enzo Gabriel.
Crikey!
Edit! ENZO GABRIEL!
@@fantasysquad8425 ENZO GABRIEL!!
@@naturesgale Thanks, but it is totally true
In one of the early season 1 episodes, Eda shows Luz and King "The Bones of the Isles", as a fantastic site that will reignite Luz's sense of adventure.
It's gutting the second time through realizing these kids are looking at... King's dad.
Oh yeah also Hooty saved King's life.
Headcanon: After the series is done, Luz will become a mediator between King and the citizens of the boiling isles, and have a crisis of faith, thinking she's acting how Belos did, with all of his "Will of the Titan" shit
Literally cannot hear king say "and then we can play catch right" without sobbing
Oh you thought that dream sequence was mean, just wait until when Luz makes it through the portal with Amity and King. After escaping Belos's superpowered rampage, the trio hurries home to Camilia who accepts them in just as openly as with Vee, only for Luz to wake up after having hit her head during the fight against him.
IKR? And this after Hooty takes up residence in their door, Luz does a whole Powerpoint presentation to come out to her mom, and Ghost has kittens! So unfair it was only a dream.
Yeah, this episode was a roller coaster of revelations and hits to the feels.
Omg I love the little text edits you put in.
"great big fucking plonker". That was hilarious
Can we appreciate that in Kings dream his "Dad" is the same size as him? Implying that in kings mind he is already fully grown...
All they had to do was use the memory photo tweezers on Luz to get images of the Emperor's Mind and post them on Penstagram to spread the word. But no! They chose to flee!
As often as you call yourself an idiot, you actually do a pretty great job of putting certain things together. ^^ Always fun to see your reactions.
You know, now that we know that King is a Titan, that means that Luz has always had Titans Blood with her to build a working portal from the beginning…
That's a bit debatable. The magically concentrated Titan's blood is ancient so if it's analogous to fossil fuels King's blood hasn't gone through the chemical changes to be potent enough to be useful. Which is honestly a good thing for him.
19:51
This is the main reason why I love this kind of reactions, they are just so random 🤣
Every "King backstory" episode is like watching someone kick a puppy. Our precious Cubone boy just can't catch a break.
Notice that the Titan Trapper Island titan is the samr one from the Owl Beast's memory in "Knock Knock Knockin' on Hooty's Door." All landmasses in the Demon Realm are Titan corpses, but the Boiling Isles titan is notable for being not only the biggest but also the only complete body. (We also see on Odalia's business card in "Escaping Expulsion" that the people of the Boiling Isles are aware of and conduct trade with other islands.)
After this episode aired, one of the writers officially confirmed that "Son of the Boiling Isles" isn't just a flowery metaphor, the Boiling Islands titan is in fact biologically King's father. Many fans have noted that this doesn't add up with, and even contradicts, other things we've already learned throughout the show.
19:50 - That dagger is a re-used asset. Maybe it's a really popular brand in-world, bc it's also what Bump wanted to use to dissect Luz in S1ep3 and it pops up in some other episodes too I just don't remember exactly which ones.
Apple slices and story time
S1 finale
It’s also in a few others
Can we just take a minute to appreciate mama Eda 😭😭😭😭💔
She is so worried about Luz and King, she don't want anything bad happen to them, and she is right, they don't deserve to deal with all this, they deserve to be what they are and enjoy their lives. I love Eda
She is such a beautiful mom ❤❤💔💔😭😭😭
It also addresses a dumb trope in a lot of children's media. In order for the kids to be heroes the adults have to be oblivious/incompetent. Here the adults don't know what to do because honestly what can they do?
Eda: "Dumb kids?! Wait... Those are MY dumb kids!"
19:43 I think that might just be the way daggers are designed in the Demon Realm, because all the way back in 1x03 the dagger Bump gave Willow to use to dissect Luz looked exactly the same as this one and Belos's.
I loved your reaction to this Chapter and I told you that if the previous one was very traumatic, then this one that we saw with King is very sad and shocking, the revelation that he is the last Titan of the Boiling Islands and now he made the connection with the Collector and that will be very important in the last Chapters so we hope you prepare your mind and brain well for what is coming with all the characters and what the future holds for them.
8:30, don't you remember? Back during Edda/Owl Beast flashback, they were on a Titan with a Crocodiel head; long narrow snout.
I fully expected a spit take when the door opened to King’s “family.”
As someone who I forgot once said “we’re in the endgame now”
It should have been obvious to us what King was from the first few episodes, King is a Clawthorne.
11:20 HOLY $H¡T‼️ YOU F*CKING CALLED IT❗
(those words are what escaped my mouth in that immediate moment)
One really messed up aspect of this is this _wasn't_ a trap. We _see_ Bill realize what King is _in_ this episode. Before that, everyone's interactions with King were _genuine._
(At 5:37) DAMNIT HOOTY! LMFAO 🤣😆
Bump also had the same kind of knife back when we first met him! It must be popular on the isles.
Who knew that the cute, fuzzy, little bugger was the most important and powerful of the bunch. I think he'll realize that he's the last of his kind and cling tighter to his new family and the only one he's ever known.
I know that you have Hamish but, at the end you looked like you could use a hug. I envy Hamish. He's doing a husband's or dad's job. I tried for my three who are grown now.
Hamish is about to get hugged SO MUCH for the remaining episodes of S2.
To think King is only EIGHT years old.. man that's a lot to take in for a child..
I can’t wait until you get to see King, Vee and the Collector all meet and bond over being the last of their kind; it’s really great and meaningful to see the Collector break down and reveal themselves to be just another powerful child, abused and manipulated by Belos to do his bidding.
I like how in The Owl House: Thanks To Them they pulverize themself into their prior state before they gleebed on the coffee. But that was only because in Hollow Mind the mind had to be hollowed out to make room for the gleebing process to start at the Day Of Uniby- I mean Unily....
0:03 Well then you’re probably not going to do well with the remaining episodes because they are all mind flips!
In later episodes, we discover that Luz is actually a Half-witch, since it was revealed that her dad had died from "heart complications"; Luz's mother claims that a certain "growth" had been found on his heart, when in reality, it was a magic bile sack. Since being away from the demon realm (his home realm) for so long, his heart had been devoid of any magic from the Titan, thus leading to health complications that killed him.
Spoilers bro! I haven't seen s3 ep2 yet wtf
Wtf are ya talking about
Gosh I missed the premiere, wasn't home. The shame!
But your reaction made it all worth the wait, already the reaction to the intro was pure gold!
At this point in the show, pretty much everyone needs a big hug. Luz especially. But also King, Eda, Hunter, Amity, you, me... everyone. Group hug!
My reaction to those Titan Trappers was basically the same, I could smell something was off about them but couldn't put my finger on it. I listened a bit more to Bill though
And the fact that King introduced Luz as his Human/friend/sister just warms my heart ❤
A group hug is a therapy session I think we all deserve
I dunno what was going on in my head when Bill was talking!!! I think it was filled with wool hahahahaa
15:05 Huh. "The Grand Huntsman." I had thought I knew who this was given later revelations this episode but I'm starting to think I'm not sure.
(At 9:38) Isn't this where the Owl Beast was before he got caught by The Collector?
14:10 That spear that Luz was holding is a reference to the Spear of Longinus from Neon Genesis Evangelion
The first five minutes of this reaction is COMEDY GOLD
BAHAHAHAHHHAAH Im glad it made you laugh
Thank you Hooty for being the comic relief we needed in this episode.
Remember how Moscow was yelling at Hooty for eating that letter?
I knew that you would put that exact title lol
"And this is Hooty, the uh....door." XD
I love how much Hooty loves lillth, and when King calls Luz his sister, my heart couldn't take it, I love them so much
Incredible to me that you called the entire titan trappers twist that they are just dressing up. Just because they wore clothes. And King, a small child, doesn’t. Amazing 😂
"LULU"
Hooty said calmly
Ep 20 is gonna be your most viewed video mark my words
Eda definitely needed that hug from her sister 😢🤗
The spider breath from the griffin established in episode 1 was some long game foreshadowing. Who knew King and Eda would fight a giant spider that swallowed Luz
The first fan theory I ever made up for TOH was that King was once the Titan the Boiling Isles is made from, but somehow got reduced from his original body to the one we see in the show. This episode shocked the hell out of me the first time I saw it, just from how close I got to his actual origin...
I can’t believe you’re already so close to the end of the season! Lorena wise you’re mostly caught up to what we know about the Boiling Isles.
As usual the next episode are just banger after banger. Hold on to Hamish!
1:45
Am I the only person who thought Mosco was going to do a Spit take with her drink right here?
Nope. I did too!
Know what's really f-d? All those skulls the trappers are wearing are about king's size and he's only 8ish. Those guys are all wearing the skulls of babies
I can’t wait to see her reaction to “crikey”
Just for some clarification because I don't know if people miss it or are deliberately ignoring it because it messes-up their headcanons: The titan they live on _is not_ King's father. It's prehistoric. Like pre dinosaurs prehistoric.
Remember the Stonesleeper Luz and Lilith found was from the Hecktaceous Period? The Isles existed long before then.
Bill specifically said the titan he chased off and blew-out his eardrums escaped and as he's a normal witch and witches have about the same lifespan as a human (AMA Twitter confirmation) that couldn't have happened more than 60-80 years ago since Bill also said he's older than how long Belos has been in power which is only 50 years.
Granted we don't know how long it takes for titan eggs to hatch but King was pretty confident that the roar he heard meant "Son." So most likely King's dad is still out there somewhere.
it seems heavily implied that the BI Titan is King's dad tho.
but yes Bill comment seems to indicate there is another titan somewhere !
Bill was made immortal by the Collector.
The crew has confirmed that the Boiling Isles Titan is King's father, in the post-hoot for Edge of the World and Labyrinth Runners.
... I'm still not sure what to make of Bill's comment, though. If King is the last, then what happened to the one Bill saw?
I think you have it backwards actually. The BI Titan *is* King's dad, but the Titan Bill claims he saw is NOT King's dad. That does potentially mean there *IS* another Titan out there currently alive and well, just in hiding somehow!
@@jakeroo123 So basically we've got in-show evidence being contradicted by the crew after the fact... Well shit. That's annoying.
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Mothernal instinct is often a course, when the right thing to do is let go of that little scrum that drives you crazy but it must be done