Maybe they leave it up to the viewers to decide what happens next. Instead of having them be reformed and instead of having them be defeated and captured, have them work to save Equestria and then have them go loose in Equestria without getting caught. This will leave it up to the viewer's imagination on what they believe will come of them.
I get the feeling that the trio will try to stab Grogar in the back, and when it turns out Grogar knew all along and retrievies his bell, they will have to team up with the ponies to defeat him. In result they are no longer enemies, but since all three still pretty much hate Equestria and what it stands for, they'll leave forever. Like Doc said, not reformation, but a possibility of one in a distant future.
I've said many times over the years that you should be a writer for the show, you more often than not come up with awesome directions for the show to go in more so than the people working on it.
One thing you have to remember though, is that terrible thing called episode length. Wail his idea sounds like it would be a nice one, to do it justice and not make it seemed rushed might be difficult. (I'm really hoping that the final episodes will be a three parter to allow for a smoother ending, but they probably won't) Sincerely, Guardian Blade.
Guardian Blade Any chance of season 10? G4 doesn’t feel like it over. Don’t get me wrong some of the G5 design is perfect 👌. The whole world is going to go crazy without G4.
Not really. I called that idea all the way back after they aired Frenemies. It's easy to see the writers were prompting to reform the three of them in one go during the finale by having them realize the "friendship" among them and stand up against Grogar to save the day. Too cliche.
Secret Moon Yeah, the ending probably will be cliche, but at least that type of ending will fit into the overall show. Basically wail it might not be a super amazing ending, it wouldn’t be a bad one in my opinion. I’ve done some story writing myself (fan fiction actually), and wail I’m very inexperienced and haven’t finished a story yet, I can tell that making a story have an ending people will like can be very difficult if you try and make it to unique, if you succeed it’s amazing, if you fail it’s a bust. . . Well maybe not entirely, those are the two extremes I guess. Anyway what I’m getting at is I understand why they might want to go with a more cliche ending, it might not leave people feeling amazed, but they’ll be able to look back on the show fondly, wail on the other side if they tried something fancy with the ending and messed it up (basically having a “it looked good on paper” moment) it would leave a bad taste in people’s mouths when they looked back. I know I’m kind of generalizing things, but that’s how I would see things going over all in though situations. Honestly though, what I’m really looking forward to is people writing fan fiction about those three trying to get used to not being evil. . . Also story’s about Bug Queen making cupcakes. XD Anyway, I’ve blabbered enough. And honestly I’ve probably failed to explain something properly (I usually do Xb), but here’s to hoping the final is a good one! Sincerely Guardian Blade.
That log reminds me Wilson (ball from Cast Away). I guess it is not easy to just throw away someone that was your only company for long time even if it is just creation of your sick mind :/
All three have arcs that could be resolved by each other. Tirek's is that he doesn't trust others due to Scorpan 'betraying' him, so having him put his life in the hands of Cozy and Chrysalis at some point would develop him. He trusts others now. Cozy's is that she misunderstands friendship and views it as a means to power. All she needs to do is do something completely selfless and realize the true meaning of it. I do think Chrysalis should undergo metamorphosis (Hopefully the design's good) as that's the symbolic final step. The full stop in her arc. She's giving love freely. She genuinely cares about the other two. However, I don't think she should reform. The entire bond between those three is they're evil and they want to seize power, if so much as one of them is sorry or repentant, or wants to make peace with ponies, their own internal friendship will fall apart. Ideally the story should treat them as they're as much of a threat to Equestria as Grogar, and ideally they should all end up in Tartarus together, plotting their escape as a group unit.
Interesting question indeed. Honestly I think chrysalis would still be the same whether or not she stops grogar with her frienemies. But I think instead of being a full-time villain she would be like a vigilante along with cozy glow and trick. I actually seen that method before in the final 2012 TMNT special (this is where it gets confusing and weird with crossovers) Here 2012 bebop and rocksteady help the 1980s shredder and krian (from another dimension of course) with their evil plan to destroy the world. 2012 bebop and rocksteady never knew the plan until it was in action, they Only want respect and decent paycheck, next thing you know they ended up saving the world with the ninja turtles.
I'm going to say this you Chrysalis is a little evil but do you think miss her? And besides she is a changeling monster I know I don't care what she goes oh she's far far away away from Equestria and away for Twilight and her friends!!!!
To build upon this theory, seeing exactly how far gone Grogar had become, along with how powerful the Ponies had managed to get by calling upon the strength and bonds of Allies, Friends, and Family to stand up against any and every threat, Chrysalis would have herself a moment of Self-Reflection to her goals and ideals, about how she had wanted to become almighty and rule over Equestria, and how childish and how much of a simpleton she was back then. Chrysalis might simply sigh and leave after Grogars' defeat, deciding to abandon everything, her goals, her vengeance, her everything, even discarding her crown on the floor. In the Epilogue sequence we would see Chrysalis living a life of hermitage on the outskirts of Equestria looking solemn and pained when she looks over thinking that an Assassin had come to end her as a threat, only to see an older Ocellus looking at her with a sage-like gaze of knowing as she holds Chrysalis'crown in a bundle before asking "How long will it be, Mother?", Chrysalis would realize what's happening and give a knowing look that could be interpreted for anything as Ocellus simply sits down next to her and leans against Chrysalis' side, the older Changeling not denying this advance as the scene ends on a hopeful note...
My inner Rarity wants to flip whatever that is behind you around. It's all I can see for the entire video. Someone get my fainting couch. Really though, great video and I wish you the best DRWolf.
There’s also the possibility of “dying” like Sombra or pseudo sequel baiting with the villains saving the day and leaving for their own nefarious plots to try and keep the world lived in.
I for one am still hoping to see Chrysalis reform by the end of season 9 just like a lot of people do, i mean some may have said that they don't want her to reform because she's just about the only good villain the series has left, but i want to see what she'd look like as a reformed changeling...but of course the Mane Six can't force Chrysalis to change her ways, she can only change if she really wants too, and given her past actions she may never want too.
The Commenter Dragon Or maybe she'll go back into hiding and continue to be a fugitive, i mean she may have lost her sanity the first time, but she seemed to be doing fine, not to mention we've seen what she's like on her own, which of course hardly makes her a threat.
Dr. Wolf the ending you're applying for Crystal it sounds like the exact one from Penn 0 part-time hero Where the villain it actually is so evil that he helps the main character get out of a dimension that is pure Doom and then get stuck there with all the other villains that he acquired he gets his own happy dysfunctional family and villains and the heroes just live a normal a life and that's it
That's what I've been saying this entire time since School Raze part 2! I know we've seen them interact in Marks For Effort and the season 8 finale, but I would absolutely love to see Cozy reform (or at least just not be caught by the series finale) and reconcile with the cmc to become friends again. Cozy needs to be the 8th cutiemark crusader.
What if they meet halfway? A bargain could be made between Chrysalis, the ponies, and her own people, where they could decide she (Chrysalis) and the ponies don't become friends (because the ponies acknowledge and respect she doesn't have to), but they are no longer enemies. They make some kind of compromise.
First there was A Canterlot Wedding where Chrysalis disguises as Cadence to gain power. Then there was The Cutie Re-Mark where she disguises as Applejack. And then The Mean Six where she disguises as Shutterbug to get pictures. Then in Frenemies where she disguises as all kinds of animals and as Twilight. Then The Summer Sun Setback where she disguises as a royal guard and Shutterbug again. And then there's the episode where she disguises as Yakko Warner to gain power. Okay. That last one isn't real, but you get my point.
I hope that they go against our expectations and have Grogar end up reforming and joining the Mane Six to defeat the other three. Consider that Cozy Glow was the "winner" in Frenemies - she was the only one who got what she wanted (she wanted them to trust each other and work together, and in the end, they did; the other two didn't want to, but they did; Grogar wanted them to bring him his bell, but they didn't). I'd love it if Cozy Glow ended up being the main villain in the finale again, due to her ability to manipulate Tirek and Chrysalis. But honestly, I think that Chrysalis is going to be reformed so that Hasbro can sell toys of her metamorphosed form.
I would love to see Cozy be the main villain again because I love Cozy. But seriously, why would Grogar need to team up with Twilight (whom he hates might I remind you) to defeat three villains that he was able to subdue with just his regular magic?
Your 'tiny step' approach seems to be the most logical and in all honesty, would be the outcome I would love to see carried forward into any future MLP movies once the series ends.
I like the idea of the irony of the other villains saving the day. I think a good idea would be for Chrysalis to take the baby steps, and possibly not flat out wanting to admit she needs friends but at the same time is like "I don't wanna fight anymore. " with some hints she might come around. Lot of the reasons we hate these reforming is that feels like it happens on a dime. Discord is close as the work in progress kind but, we need a Zuko from Last Airbender story arch of being torn between two sides & trying to decide what they really want.
I think a tiny steps between would be much more interesting compared to what we have seen time and time again. It'd be fun seeing a sort of team rocket style "we're still bad guys but not heinous" shift for them. She can go on to be be her evil self but with some character development and maybe finally ditching the mean six twilight log for real friends.
I feel like it should end with the 3 becoming “friends” more like continued on again off again allies but for all intents and purposes still ‘evil’ and they end up becoming like frieza from Dragon ball super. Still the villains, still angry at who their angry at, but if it comes down to losing all of equestria (what all 3 want to rule and gain power for) they will help the main 6. Otherwise...they are enemies against the 6 until the end. Edit: Also I was just thinking Grogar: Tell me, what is Friendship? Chrysalis: Friendship is a DISEASE! Cozy Glow: Friendship is POWER! Tirek: Friendship is a POWERFUL DISEASE!
My theories are: 1-Grogar find the bell, and use them to fusion Tirek, chrys and cozy in one monster (They dont want, and are forced to), but of course only him (Grogar) can manipulate the monster 2-Grogar wants them to be a group, so they develop a basic form of friendship... which Grogar use as fuel for his "black-counter-friendship magic" to defeat Twilight, at the cost of life of them, so mane 6 have to save them 3-Grogar use the log of Chrysalis to create the Mean Twilight again, and stole the powers of the trio to give to Mean Twi, Which becomes uncontrollable and betray everyone 4-SilverQuill becomes Can-Can dancer and everyone get mad at him
I think a slow and more natural reformation would be the way to go for Chrysalis, similarly to how the Dazzlings reformed themselves in Sunset’s Backstage Pass; Chrysalis’ reformation has definitely been teased and/or set up in the season 6 finale and I believe it will bring her character arc full circle. However, if she isn’t reformed, I won’t mind at all.
I love the bond that seems to be forming between Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy. Perhaps if what you suggest comes to pass, the trio can decide to move to Tirek's original homeland in order to get away from "those pesky ponies". I don't want the trio to be "redeemed" meaning they will become buddy-buddy with ponies, but they do need to realize that the three of them are friends. Also, since not reforming means being constantly starving for Chrysalis, she needs to reform. I just hope the writers give her a cool design like Pharynx. No to them becoming goody-two-shoes', but one can be a villain despite having friends.
I'd like to see everything you just said happened only when Chrysalis helps to stop Grogar she ends up sacrificing herself Due to complete magic drain.
Even evil characters can be revealed to have a sense of honor. This could lead to the culmination of Crysalis' character arc. And that might be preferable to fully reforming her.
I think the way your proposing this is simply one of the best ways they could go about doing this. I honestly don't think having her reformed would fit her character at all. And this solution would make sense as to what she might end up doing. But who knows what the Mlp staff is up to so let's hope they do end her character as well as the others on a nice note.
The loss of the Hive is driving her insane. That and Cozy Glow and Tirek are learning about tge value of Friendship leaves the possibilty of a redemption and reformation for the 3 of them open.
Chrysalis is holding on to revenge but it's possible for her to see that those emotions have caused her to lose everything and she might reform when she realizes that.
Starlight redeems Queen Chrysalis, treating us to a double transformation where Chrysalis takes her new form and Starlight becomes an Alicorn. A perfect ending to a series about FRIENDSHIP. And the fact that even at this point it's still a show written for kids, so it's not going to be overly complicated. .
I don't think that Starlight will turn into an alicorn. When Twilight turned into an alicorn, there was enormous backlash. When Starlight was reformed, there was enormous backlash. If Starlight becomes an alicorn, it would be like combining two mistakes.
I'm not sure on which route they should take with Crysalis but if they do reform her I hope design wise, they go the Pharnix route. With the more darker shades of colors instead of the neon colors.
I really doubt she’ll reform. She’s too crazy at this point. I think Chrysalis is too stuck in her ways as well. The best we’ll get is the enemy of my enemy is my “friend”. Where Chrysalis joins the ponies temporarily against a shared threat
Whatever happens, Starlight will be the key. She will likely reform Chrysilis with the help of Thorax. I can see them doing this after Grogar decides to eliminate Cozy and Teirek.
@@shadowspector3611 The Pony of Shadows was eliminated. Sombra was eliminated. I suspect these two will be dealt with in much the same way. Grogar using the Bell on them is the most likely course. Now that I think of it, I think the Sirens would be a good match for Grogar. An interesting way to earn redemption as well.
crispycritterz: I haven't seen Sunset's Backstage Pass yet but I hear that the Sirens are already dealt with there, so that's most likely a no to dealing with Grogar. The Pony of Shadows wasn't eliminated though because he was sent to limbo, which is why everyone is still thinking that Cozy could merge with him. Sombra was disintegrated with the Magic of Friendship because the Mane 6 didn't have another way (or that's what the writers were trying to set up). Cozy is not enough of an immediate threat to need to be eliminated and Tirek has little to know power so I don't think that either the Mane 6 or Grogar will really need to eliminate him. If the Legion of Doom fail with the bell, Grogar will most likely just return Cozy and Tirek to Tartarus and will return Chrysalis to the forest because that's where he found her.
who know really what's going to happen in the end. once a Villain always a Villain. yeah you can be reform but the evil inside is still there some where. we all have balance of Good and Evil.
Also.When a viewer is rooting for the villain. It shows a writer did a great job for the viewer to see a difference of opinion. The villain is not necessarily bad. Just has a different position in life.
,,Will Chrysalis get reformed?". I've been always saying and I'll say it now: YES, SHE WILL! Now I know that she refused once, but for a very short time we could see the love, the pain and the desire to change. Since season six I never stopped believing in this. Also, it sounds strange but I since then I don't think she is pure evil. She is just angry, afraid and all she wants is to be a good leader. I feel sorry for her. I mean, she almost lost her mind! She talks to a twig! Aspesialy when in season 8 and 9 we saw so much more of her. Her feelings, her desire... And after her new moments with Tirek and Cozy I just got absolutely sure: she will reform. And I believe that she will even pull Tirek and Cozy to the light. So yah, I believe that they will all reform. And Chrysalis will start it all. She actually was the one to say that friendship is magic in ,,Frenemies"(even tho she ruined everything). She is a really interesting character and the writers haven't bring her back for nothing. They won't leave her just like that. In the end she will be evil but she will reform. And she will become a hero. I just know it. And lets say it: she is actually a smart leader. Perhaps she will lead the changelings with Thorax (I don't know how that will happen if they don't fall in love but we will see). Chrysalis has come a long way and I believe that in the end she will be a true hero. But your theory makes sense too. That will make Chrysalis stand out. And if the legion of doom does that, they will really find ,,a better way to be bad". But what will happen... I don't know. I guess we'll just have to wait for The Grand Final. But why this must be so hard?!
First off, Chrysalis won't fall in love with Thorax because that's her son. Secondly, I do believe Chrysalis will reform as well since she was put in such an awkward position at the season 6 finale and had no other logical choice than to rebuff Starlight's proposal to be reformed. But now that things have cleared up, there is a chance for Chrysalis to realize that she's lost everything not because of Starlight but because of her own hunger for vengeance.
@@shadowspector3611 Yes, I believe so too. Also maybe (just maybe) if Chrysalis reform Tirek and Cozy Glow will fillow her. They never said it but actualy became friends. And if one chooses a better way the others will too. I believe that this will be Chrysalis. She just needs to let her anger go.
White Horse Production: but there might be a chance Hasbro is going to make one of them decide that they don't want to give up villainy as we would only have 1 or 2 of the Legion of Doom reform. I hope Cozy can reform though and rejoin the cmc.
Here's what I want to see happen. Chrysalis TIrek and Cozy Glow work together to bring down the mane six and when equestria is at its most vulnerable Grogar steps in takes back his bell and takes over. It's here that Twilight points out that the three villains were only able to defeat them by working together and becoming friends along the way, and they are the only ones who can stop Grogar. It will be these three who save the day in the end and realize that maybe the mane six have a point about friendship. Also, I would like to see what a reformed Chrysalis would look like, I rather like the new design; probably because I know who colorful insects can be,
Interesting idea, but i'll be disappointed if Grogar just randomly turns on The three villains once he gets his true power back... whether he knows of their betrayal or not. i mean he was the one who brought them all together because he understands that alone, no villain can be victorious against the ponies. So it wouldn't make any sense if he pulled a Tirek and just got rid of the three of them... it would completely render the entire point of bringing the villains together pointless, and would take away the most interesting aspects of Grogar's character, that being his intelligence, since he's smart enough call forth for aid against the ponies, and his understanding of the world around him, that being he's not blinded by his power and can generally see why he and the others have failed. Although in truth, if Grogar doesn't know of the three villains having his bell, and is dumb enough to believe they're loyal to him. Then he's already lost the interesting aspects of his character.
@@thadmaster7 well no, if they plan on having the villains get reformed. Having them save the day would actually be an obvious road to go down... whether it's what fans want or not, it's likely that's the kind of thing the show is gearing up for. Frankly in my opinion what the show will most likely do is have Grogar learn of the three villains treachery and imprison them. Only for the good guys, on their way to defeat Grogar, to find and free the villains. And sometime afterwards, the situation would be pretty much switched with the Good guys on the brink of defeat at Grogar's hooves, only for the villains to come to the rescue, and save the day... now whether all that would lead to the three being reformed or not is still anyone's guess, but the way the show is makes me think it will.
In truth (like with series itself) I see missed opportunities. No I don't believe Chrysalis should reform, it would go a long way to show that sometimes, some are just going to be opposed to sometime, even if on principle alone. But with the Frenemies episode lost a little traction for me with that ending. As Dr Wolf had said when Grogar initially came onto the scene, using friendship against the mane six (or seven or eight or whatever it is now) would be a far better core tenant for the villains to come away with. While cartoon villains are fun because they're cartoon villains, that's also their downfall. Much like how Starscream ever plotting against Megatron was hilarious, it's also the cartoon trope flaw cementing that villains won't work together for too long because they resort to backstabbing and thus sabotage themselves. It would be a far more compelling case to show villains actually presenting their own united front, and not defeated by their own missteps or backstabbing plots, but the heroes overcoming them even in light of that, even if just barely by sheer will and luck alone. It would show how close things could really come, and how much everything actually does hang by a thread.
I want Chrysalis to remain a villain at the end of the series. So there'll always be a menace in the shadows. Like the villains at the end of Justice League Unlimited.
I imagine she Tirek and Grogar would be stopped for good with Love and Friendship lasers while Cozy Glow on seeing that would meekly say. "I'm weady to be impwisioned for all eterwinty…" Rather that go the way of those three and Sombra.
You are ignoring show continuity, something the show has normally been good at. The show has been building up to Starlight redeeming Queen Chrysalis. They pretty much slap you in the face with this fact in Frenemies. They have established that Starlight needs to do this to show what she has learned from Twilight. Going against that ruins seasons of continuity, making this series a joke.
Man I really gotta catch up on MLP, Decided to rewatch the seasons before I go to the newer ones (I'm almost to season 5). I've been watching a lot of anime lately so I've gotten behind :I
You'll spoil everything! Hurry up and watch the seasons (season 5 is the best imo). The ending to mlp shall be spectacular and you should be a part of it.
I think your first idea is what's in store for her Celestia Luna Discord & maybe Tirek, they are going to transfer over to a new world or something like that, probably through Discord's abilities so they are all out of the way of the new order under Twilight. Having that group in g5 would be a good grounding of good evil & neutral that's familiar so that the early righting can be free to explore the new main characters and not be slowed down having to explain them seeing as we know those characters already. Or they could just be taking a sledgehammer to the series at its end and starting over from scratch in g5, we'll see.
I would like to see gen 5 take place in the same universe as gen 4 and have a new cast of main characters as "the fresh start" but it looks like it's going to be an entire reboot.
I always thought it would be interesting if it was revealed that Chrysalis kept a private stash of ponies/creatures with great love that was so good she couldn't take it all in, or want to, so she cocoons them in a hidden place (even from her own hoard) ... like a private stash. Whilst cocooned Chrysalis could feed on them eternally. It would be a great way to have Applejack's parents revealed to be alive (or at least tell us how they died/disappeared). With AJ teaching school and helping Twi rule Equestria we need a way to break her away from the farm. Her parents will return and take care of the farm so Granny Smith can retire, Applebloom can focus on her Crusading, and Big Mac can plan a life with Sugar Bell and potentially move to the former Equal Town.
Chrysalis reforming isn't much a stretch (I thinking Tirek and Cozy Glow will reform by the end of the season too). In 'Frienemies,' there wads a brief moment where she was considering a the power of friendship. Sure, she quickly repented, but it showed that she is capable of changing somewhat. Whether or not she actually does is up in the air until the season finale.
I could picture Chrysalis getting changed, but using her powers to disguise back into her "normal" self and deny any modification to her personality in her pursuit of revenge...
we can't tell if Chrysalis wants Cozy Glow and Tirek to betray Grogar so they can rule for themselves, that might be possible, but they are about to get backfired from him
I think the writers are going to make Chrysalis become good soon as she will learn that friendship and having friends is nice for you if you or your friends know how to s treat each other well.
Here's an interesting thought. Cozy, Tirek. and Chrysalis are planning to betray Grogar and I assume Grogar knows about it. Grogar could use force to stop it but a more cunning way would be is to talk alone with Chrysalis and mention/hint a main part of his plan is to take back Chrysalis's Kingdom. And that would give Chrysalis a big decision to side with Grogar to reclaim her Kingdom or side with Tirek and Cozy to betray him but may not get back her kingdom.
Hi Dr.wolf May I ask you a question? Do Chrysalis have a background story? like was she was a good person and did she had someone to love her befor she turned evil please let me know because this my promblem with the show because this bad guys I mean this evil ponys don't have no background mean like marvel and dc super heroes the bad guys have background story 🤔
A bit of a neutral route then? I could see it, but it's stretch to see it out that way. The linchpin for me for this to work is if she connects the dots that way. Considering her arrogant streak is the size of a kaiju from Pacific Rim....I'd be down for the idea to pan out but doubt she'd bite.
If Gen4 and Gen5 are tied together, I'd like to see Chrysalis remain a villain. She could abandon Tirek and Cozy after Grogar's defeat, isolate herself far away from Equestria and raise some huge over-the-top scheme for revenge on all ponykind. I dunno, I just want Best Villain to leave FIM on a high note
I like your idea with Crysalis realizing she needs the other two to be better. she doesnt need to reform but I like the idea where the other two are powerless and she shares some of her power, not out of friendship, but out of there comradeship in there hatred of Grogar and the ponies. Her transformation should be different to since if she shares her power for a different reason her new form should be darker but in a pure sense, shes realized the madness she might spiral into if she is consumed by hatred but at the same time doesnt want to change who she is thus her new form reflects her true self, like say the reformed changlings are light side and Crysalis beomces a true Dark Changling its just another transformation in there life cycle they never knew about.
Oh dang, that would be cool to see. Like, in one of the final moments, Chrysalis unlocks her true darkness and becomes nightmare fuel. This could go both ways and have Chrysalis be the main villain of the ending series or she could be forced to go this dark in order to save Tirek or Cozy. Either way, I hope they bring back the voice modulation.
You, my friend, live a lie. The creators do not think in depth about the character of chrysalis. they are just thinking of ending the story and finish their work
Why doesn't Celestia want any daughters?
She's only good at raising suns.
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Dude, nice XD
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@@drawingsbyellieandollie7371 Thank you.
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She can adopt Cozy with Tirek and create an evil version of Incredibles
That would be pathological family... O-o
That sounds both terrifying and adorable.
I would absolutely love to see a villain family. Cozy Glow is just the best.
Unlikely but possible
monsterjambrony: there used to be 5 of them if you count Grogar as well.
Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow are better off becoming anti-heroes.
Kinda like me!
Yeah, that does sound like an interesting idea.
Maybe they leave it up to the viewers to decide what happens next. Instead of having them be reformed and instead of having them be defeated and captured, have them work to save Equestria and then have them go loose in Equestria without getting caught. This will leave it up to the viewer's imagination on what they believe will come of them.
i can see Chrysalis reform
but not in the same way as the others
rather by an offer Thorax gives her
I get the feeling that the trio will try to stab Grogar in the back, and when it turns out Grogar knew all along and retrievies his bell, they will have to team up with the ponies to defeat him. In result they are no longer enemies, but since all three still pretty much hate Equestria and what it stands for, they'll leave forever. Like Doc said, not reformation, but a possibility of one in a distant future.
I've said many times over the years that you should be a writer for the show, you more often than not come up with awesome directions for the show to go in more so than the people working on it.
One thing you have to remember though, is that terrible thing called episode length. Wail his idea sounds like it would be a nice one, to do it justice and not make it seemed rushed might be difficult.
(I'm really hoping that the final episodes will be a three parter to allow for a smoother ending, but they probably won't)
Sincerely, Guardian Blade.
Guardian Blade Any chance of season 10? G4 doesn’t feel like it over. Don’t get me wrong some of the G5 design is perfect 👌. The whole world is going to go crazy without G4.
Not really. I called that idea all the way back after they aired Frenemies. It's easy to see the writers were prompting to reform the three of them in one go during the finale by having them realize the "friendship" among them and stand up against Grogar to save the day. Too cliche.
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Yeah, the ending probably will be cliche, but at least that type of ending will fit into the overall show. Basically wail it might not be a super amazing ending, it wouldn’t be a bad one in my opinion.
I’ve done some story writing myself (fan fiction actually), and wail I’m very inexperienced and haven’t finished a story yet, I can tell that making a story have an ending people will like can be very difficult if you try and make it to unique, if you succeed it’s amazing, if you fail it’s a bust. . . Well maybe not entirely, those are the two extremes I guess. Anyway what I’m getting at is I understand why they might want to go with a more cliche ending, it might not leave people feeling amazed, but they’ll be able to look back on the show fondly, wail on the other side if they tried something fancy with the ending and messed it up (basically having a “it looked good on paper” moment) it would leave a bad taste in people’s mouths when they looked back. I know I’m kind of generalizing things, but that’s how I would see things going over all in though situations.
Honestly though, what I’m really looking forward to is people writing fan fiction about those three trying to get used to not being evil. . . Also story’s about Bug Queen making cupcakes. XD
Anyway, I’ve blabbered enough. And honestly I’ve probably failed to explain something properly (I usually do Xb), but here’s to hoping the final is a good one!
Sincerely Guardian Blade.
That log reminds me Wilson (ball from Cast Away). I guess it is not easy to just throw away someone that was your only company for long time even if it is just creation of your sick mind :/
Imagine why Cozy still has that skull.
All three have arcs that could be resolved by each other.
Tirek's is that he doesn't trust others due to Scorpan 'betraying' him, so having him put his life in the hands of Cozy and Chrysalis at some point would develop him. He trusts others now.
Cozy's is that she misunderstands friendship and views it as a means to power. All she needs to do is do something completely selfless and realize the true meaning of it.
I do think Chrysalis should undergo metamorphosis (Hopefully the design's good) as that's the symbolic final step. The full stop in her arc. She's giving love freely. She genuinely cares about the other two. However, I don't think she should reform. The entire bond between those three is they're evil and they want to seize power, if so much as one of them is sorry or repentant, or wants to make peace with ponies, their own internal friendship will fall apart. Ideally the story should treat them as they're as much of a threat to Equestria as Grogar, and ideally they should all end up in Tartarus together, plotting their escape as a group unit.
Interesting question indeed. Honestly I think chrysalis would still be the same whether or not she stops grogar with her frienemies. But I think instead of being a full-time villain she would be like a vigilante along with cozy glow and trick.
I actually seen that method before in the final 2012 TMNT special (this is where it gets confusing and weird with crossovers)
Here 2012 bebop and rocksteady help the 1980s shredder and krian (from another dimension of course) with their evil plan to destroy the world. 2012 bebop and rocksteady never knew the plan until it was in action, they Only want respect and decent paycheck, next thing you know they ended up saving the world with the ninja turtles.
I would just be happy if Chrysalis goes her own way after all this
I'm going to say this you Chrysalis is a little evil but do you think miss her? And besides she is a changeling monster I know I don't care what she goes oh she's far far away away from Equestria and away for Twilight and her friends!!!!
To build upon this theory, seeing exactly how far gone Grogar had become, along with how powerful the Ponies had managed to get by calling upon the strength and bonds of Allies, Friends, and Family to stand up against any and every threat, Chrysalis would have herself a moment of Self-Reflection to her goals and ideals, about how she had wanted to become almighty and rule over Equestria, and how childish and how much of a simpleton she was back then. Chrysalis might simply sigh and leave after Grogars' defeat, deciding to abandon everything, her goals, her vengeance, her everything, even discarding her crown on the floor. In the Epilogue sequence we would see Chrysalis living a life of hermitage on the outskirts of Equestria looking solemn and pained when she looks over thinking that an Assassin had come to end her as a threat, only to see an older Ocellus looking at her with a sage-like gaze of knowing as she holds Chrysalis'crown in a bundle before asking "How long will it be, Mother?", Chrysalis would realize what's happening and give a knowing look that could be interpreted for anything as Ocellus simply sits down next to her and leans against Chrysalis' side, the older Changeling not denying this advance as the scene ends on a hopeful note...
Wtf?? That was so emotionally deep! I would never expect a resolution like that but I would certainly like it.
Chrysalis is and will always be my favorite villainess. No man could ask for a better Waifu.
My inner Rarity wants to flip whatever that is behind you around. It's all I can see for the entire video. Someone get my fainting couch.
Really though, great video and I wish you the best DRWolf.
There’s also the possibility of “dying” like Sombra or pseudo sequel baiting with the villains saving the day and leaving for their own nefarious plots to try and keep the world lived in.
I for one am still hoping to see Chrysalis reform by the end of season 9 just like a lot of people do, i mean some may have said that they don't want her to reform because she's just about the only good villain the series has left, but i want to see what she'd look like as a reformed changeling...but of course the Mane Six can't force Chrysalis to change her ways, she can only change if she really wants too, and given her past actions she may never want too.
The Commenter Dragon Or maybe she'll go back into hiding and continue to be a fugitive, i mean she may have lost her sanity the first time, but she seemed to be doing fine, not to mention we've seen what she's like on her own, which of course hardly makes her a threat.
NO, NO REDEMPTION!!
thadmaster 7: you're just as consistent as Commenter . . .
@@shadowspector3611 And just why are you comparing him to Commenter?
pokeball boy25: because Commenter is a very loyal brony.
That's a very..... interesting shaped log are we sure she only talks to it?
dude...
Dude. 🙄
NO. NONE OF THAT. SHAME ON YOU.
There's plenty of artwork out there way ahead of you. xD
Oh my.
I don't think if Chrysalis would do that. (Maybe)
Great video DR Wolf, have a great summer and good luck at brony con
It is legally necessary to give her a big twist moment of deception by the end of the show.
the forever villain would be nice.
Dr. Wolf the ending you're applying for Crystal it sounds like the exact one from Penn 0 part-time hero
Where the villain it actually is so evil that he helps the main character get out of a dimension that is pure Doom and then get stuck there with all the other villains that he acquired he gets his own happy dysfunctional family and villains and the heroes just live a normal a life and that's it
I would love to see interaction beetween Cozy Glow and CmC
That's what I've been saying this entire time since School Raze part 2! I know we've seen them interact in Marks For Effort and the season 8 finale, but I would absolutely love to see Cozy reform (or at least just not be caught by the series finale) and reconcile with the cmc to become friends again. Cozy needs to be the 8th cutiemark crusader.
What if they meet halfway? A bargain could be made between Chrysalis, the ponies, and her own people, where they could decide she (Chrysalis) and the ponies don't become friends (because the ponies acknowledge and respect she doesn't have to), but they are no longer enemies. They make some kind of compromise.
First there was A Canterlot Wedding where Chrysalis disguises as Cadence to gain power. Then there was The Cutie Re-Mark where she disguises as Applejack. And then The Mean Six where she disguises as Shutterbug to get pictures. Then in Frenemies where she disguises as all kinds of animals and as Twilight. Then The Summer Sun Setback where she disguises as a royal guard and Shutterbug again. And then there's the episode where she disguises as Yakko Warner to gain power. Okay. That last one isn't real, but you get my point.
I hope that they go against our expectations and have Grogar end up reforming and joining the Mane Six to defeat the other three. Consider that Cozy Glow was the "winner" in Frenemies - she was the only one who got what she wanted (she wanted them to trust each other and work together, and in the end, they did; the other two didn't want to, but they did; Grogar wanted them to bring him his bell, but they didn't). I'd love it if Cozy Glow ended up being the main villain in the finale again, due to her ability to manipulate Tirek and Chrysalis.
But honestly, I think that Chrysalis is going to be reformed so that Hasbro can sell toys of her metamorphosed form.
I would love to see Cozy be the main villain again because I love Cozy. But seriously, why would Grogar need to team up with Twilight (whom he hates might I remind you) to defeat three villains that he was able to subdue with just his regular magic?
Your 'tiny step' approach seems to be the most logical and in all honesty, would be the outcome I would love to see carried forward into any future MLP movies once the series ends.
I like the idea of the irony of the other villains saving the day. I think a good idea would be for Chrysalis to take the baby steps, and possibly not flat out wanting to admit she needs friends but at the same time is like "I don't wanna fight anymore. " with some hints she might come around. Lot of the reasons we hate these reforming is that feels like it happens on a dime. Discord is close as the work in progress kind but, we need a Zuko from Last Airbender story arch of being torn between two sides & trying to decide what they really want.
I think a tiny steps between would be much more interesting compared to what we have seen time and time again. It'd be fun seeing a sort of team rocket style "we're still bad guys but not heinous" shift for them. She can go on to be be her evil self but with some character development and maybe finally ditching the mean six twilight log for real friends.
I feel like it should end with the 3 becoming “friends” more like continued on again off again allies but for all intents and purposes still ‘evil’ and they end up becoming like frieza from Dragon ball super. Still the villains, still angry at who their angry at, but if it comes down to losing all of equestria (what all 3 want to rule and gain power for) they will help the main 6. Otherwise...they are enemies against the 6 until the end.
Edit: Also I was just thinking
Grogar: Tell me, what is Friendship?
Chrysalis: Friendship is a DISEASE!
Cozy Glow: Friendship is POWER!
Tirek: Friendship is a POWERFUL DISEASE!
My theories are:
1-Grogar find the bell, and use them to fusion Tirek, chrys and cozy in one monster (They dont want, and are forced to), but of course only him (Grogar) can manipulate the monster
2-Grogar wants them to be a group, so they develop a basic form of friendship... which Grogar use as fuel for his "black-counter-friendship magic" to defeat Twilight, at the cost of life of them, so mane 6 have to save them
3-Grogar use the log of Chrysalis to create the Mean Twilight again, and stole the powers of the trio to give to Mean Twi,
Which becomes uncontrollable and betray everyone
4-SilverQuill becomes Can-Can dancer and everyone get mad at him
Congratulations, you have received the award for "most bizarre ending ever thought of."
Either chrysalis reforms or not this season will still be ponyriffic 🦄
Chrysalis she will see the light of friendship once the coup fails against Grogar. That's 3 birds 1 stone. A triple play win Doctor Wolf.
I think a slow and more natural reformation would be the way to go for Chrysalis, similarly to how the Dazzlings reformed themselves in Sunset’s Backstage Pass; Chrysalis’ reformation has definitely been teased and/or set up in the season 6 finale and I believe it will bring her character arc full circle. However, if she isn’t reformed, I won’t mind at all.
Doc: after FIM final episode where could Chrysalis go from here???
Me: didn't someone have a conspiracy about a possible Changeling civil war???
Yeah, that's where gen 5 picks up XD
Yes I’m gonna to work on it with my friends because I’m not sure if I can do that on my own
I love the bond that seems to be forming between Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy. Perhaps if what you suggest comes to pass, the trio can decide to move to Tirek's original homeland in order to get away from "those pesky ponies". I don't want the trio to be "redeemed" meaning they will become buddy-buddy with ponies, but they do need to realize that the three of them are friends. Also, since not reforming means being constantly starving for Chrysalis, she needs to reform. I just hope the writers give her a cool design like Pharynx. No to them becoming goody-two-shoes', but one can be a villain despite having friends.
I'd like to see everything you just said happened only when Chrysalis helps to stop Grogar she ends up sacrificing herself Due to complete magic drain.
Even evil characters can be revealed to have a sense of honor. This could lead to the culmination of Crysalis' character arc. And that might be preferable to fully reforming her.
Oh man this idea is cool and exciting! I definitely hope to either see it on the show or read it in the pages of fanfiction!
Doc, your the reason I got into the show
I think the way your proposing this is simply one of the best ways they could go about doing this. I honestly don't think having her reformed would fit her character at all. And this solution would make sense as to what she might end up doing. But who knows what the Mlp staff is up to so let's hope they do end her character as well as the others on a nice note.
SHE NEEDS REFORMATION!
Why is that? Personally I don't really think it's suit her character well.
I WANT HER REFORMED TO END HER ARC ON A GOOD NOTE! NOT A BAD NOTE! >:/
Should Chrysalis be reformed?
My Answer: She's a lost cause! No one can help her!
The loss of the Hive is driving her insane. That and Cozy Glow and Tirek are learning about tge value of Friendship leaves the possibilty of a redemption and reformation for the 3 of them open.
Chrysalis is holding on to revenge but it's possible for her to see that those emotions have caused her to lose everything and she might reform when she realizes that.
Starlight redeems Queen Chrysalis, treating us to a double transformation where Chrysalis takes her new form and Starlight becomes an Alicorn. A perfect ending to a series about FRIENDSHIP. And the fact that even at this point it's still a show written for kids, so it's not going to be overly complicated. .
I don't think that Starlight will turn into an alicorn. When Twilight turned into an alicorn, there was enormous backlash. When Starlight was reformed, there was enormous backlash. If Starlight becomes an alicorn, it would be like combining two mistakes.
How are the changelings reproducing without the queen seriously how
Would be hilarious if the mean 3 accidentally saved Equestria and then just trotted into the sunset - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade ending /)
I think the mlp staff might be going for drama instead of comedy.
@@shadowspector3611 Sounds about right, especially for G5 perhaps :)
I'm not sure on which route they should take with Crysalis but if they do reform her I hope design wise, they go the Pharnix route. With the more darker shades of colors instead of the neon colors.
I really doubt she’ll reform. She’s too crazy at this point. I think Chrysalis is too stuck in her ways as well.
The best we’ll get is the enemy of my enemy is my “friend”. Where Chrysalis joins the ponies temporarily against a shared threat
Whatever happens, Starlight will be the key.
She will likely reform Chrysilis with the help of Thorax.
I can see them doing this after Grogar decides to eliminate Cozy and Teirek.
Hold up. Eliminate? Are you suggesting that Cozy and Tirek be executed?
@@shadowspector3611 The Pony of Shadows was eliminated. Sombra was eliminated.
I suspect these two will be dealt with in much the same way.
Grogar using the Bell on them is the most likely course.
Now that I think of it, I think the Sirens would be a good match for Grogar.
An interesting way to earn redemption as well.
crispycritterz: I haven't seen Sunset's Backstage Pass yet but I hear that the Sirens are already dealt with there, so that's most likely a no to dealing with Grogar. The Pony of Shadows wasn't eliminated though because he was sent to limbo, which is why everyone is still thinking that Cozy could merge with him. Sombra was disintegrated with the Magic of Friendship because the Mane 6 didn't have another way (or that's what the writers were trying to set up). Cozy is not enough of an immediate threat to need to be eliminated and Tirek has little to know power so I don't think that either the Mane 6 or Grogar will really need to eliminate him. If the Legion of Doom fail with the bell, Grogar will most likely just return Cozy and Tirek to Tartarus and will return Chrysalis to the forest because that's where he found her.
who know really what's going to happen in the end.
once a Villain always a Villain.
yeah you can be reform but the evil inside is still there some where.
we all have balance of Good and Evil.
Me too I love that idea
Or...... she strikes from behind and both kills and assumes the form of Grogar, taking his power for her own
Oh... I wasn't think about Chrysalis... I forgot how interesting she can be
DR Wolf have you seen episode 17 for that asometion
John sun Games probably not
@@ainiimran8926 well, then, he saw the future
I go mostly with the last theory, with the addition that the three villains leave Equestria after refusing a peace offering from Twilight.
As much as I would love to see that happen, I have great doubts that the writers will even do such a thing.
Also.When a viewer is rooting for the villain. It shows a writer did a great job for the viewer to see a difference of opinion. The villain is not necessarily bad. Just has a different position in life.
My theory is she's gonna be reformed in the last episode to help the Main 6 defeat Grogar
,,Will Chrysalis get reformed?". I've been always saying and I'll say it now: YES, SHE WILL! Now I know that she refused once, but for a very short time we could see the love, the pain and the desire to change. Since season six I never stopped believing in this. Also, it sounds strange but I since then I don't think she is pure evil. She is just angry, afraid and all she wants is to be a good leader. I feel sorry for her. I mean, she almost lost her mind! She talks to a twig! Aspesialy when in season 8 and 9 we saw so much more of her. Her feelings, her desire... And after her new moments with Tirek and Cozy I just got absolutely sure: she will reform. And I believe that she will even pull Tirek and Cozy to the light. So yah, I believe that they will all reform. And Chrysalis will start it all. She actually was the one to say that friendship is magic in ,,Frenemies"(even tho she ruined everything). She is a really interesting character and the writers haven't bring her back for nothing. They won't leave her just like that. In the end she will be evil but she will reform. And she will become a hero. I just know it. And lets say it: she is actually a smart leader. Perhaps she will lead the changelings with Thorax (I don't know how that will happen if they don't fall in love but we will see). Chrysalis has come a long way and I believe that in the end she will be a true hero.
But your theory makes sense too. That will make Chrysalis stand out. And if the legion of doom does that, they will really find ,,a better way to be bad". But what will happen... I don't know. I guess we'll just have to wait for The Grand Final. But why this must be so hard?!
First off, Chrysalis won't fall in love with Thorax because that's her son. Secondly, I do believe Chrysalis will reform as well since she was put in such an awkward position at the season 6 finale and had no other logical choice than to rebuff Starlight's proposal to be reformed. But now that things have cleared up, there is a chance for Chrysalis to realize that she's lost everything not because of Starlight but because of her own hunger for vengeance.
@@shadowspector3611 Yes, I believe so too. Also maybe (just maybe) if Chrysalis reform Tirek and Cozy Glow will fillow her. They never said it but actualy became friends. And if one chooses a better way the others will too. I believe that this will be Chrysalis. She just needs to let her anger go.
White Horse Production: but there might be a chance Hasbro is going to make one of them decide that they don't want to give up villainy as we would only have 1 or 2 of the Legion of Doom reform. I hope Cozy can reform though and rejoin the cmc.
@@shadowspector3611 Me too
Well.... y'all know my answer by now for what I want for Chrysalis: I WANT HER REFORMED! (And to be like the reformed changelings of course!)
If they do that, I hope that her design is aesthetically appealing
Here's what I want to see happen. Chrysalis TIrek and Cozy Glow work together to bring down the mane six and when equestria is at its most vulnerable Grogar steps in takes back his bell and takes over. It's here that Twilight points out that the three villains were only able to defeat them by working together and becoming friends along the way, and they are the only ones who can stop Grogar. It will be these three who save the day in the end and realize that maybe the mane six have a point about friendship. Also, I would like to see what a reformed Chrysalis would look like, I rather like the new design; probably because I know who colorful insects can be,
Do one about where Lord Tirek would go from now, & Cozy Glow.
I'd appreciate hearing Dr. Wolf's thoughts on Cozy Glow
what's Anita carmatic?
Baby steps your majesty, everything thing takes time, even the best form of revenge.
Interesting idea, but i'll be disappointed if Grogar just randomly turns on The three villains once he gets his true power back... whether he knows of their betrayal or not.
i mean he was the one who brought them all together because he understands that alone, no villain can be victorious against the ponies.
So it wouldn't make any sense if he pulled a Tirek and just got rid of the three of them... it would completely render the entire point of bringing the villains together pointless, and would take away the most interesting aspects of Grogar's character, that being his intelligence, since he's smart enough call forth for aid against the ponies, and his understanding of the world around him, that being he's not blinded by his power and can generally see why he and the others have failed.
Although in truth, if Grogar doesn't know of the three villains having his bell, and is dumb enough to believe they're loyal to him.
Then he's already lost the interesting aspects of his character.
I 100% agree dude
It's to bad that everyone else wont agree, and see how this could be a disappointment
Not to mention, if the villains save the day, that would be dumb to because this is the SERIES finale
@@thadmaster7 well no, if they plan on having the villains get reformed.
Having them save the day would actually be an obvious road to go down... whether it's what fans want or not, it's likely that's the kind of thing the show is gearing up for.
Frankly in my opinion what the show will most likely do is have Grogar learn of the three villains treachery and imprison them. Only for the good guys, on their way to defeat Grogar, to find and free the villains.
And sometime afterwards, the situation would be pretty much switched with the Good guys on the brink of defeat at Grogar's hooves, only for the villains to come to the rescue, and save the day... now whether all that would lead to the three being reformed or not is still anyone's guess, but the way the show is makes me think it will.
@@Draconicus702 NO, NO MORE FREAKIN REDEMPTIONS, MY GOD
In truth (like with series itself) I see missed opportunities. No I don't believe Chrysalis should reform, it would go a long way to show that sometimes, some are just going to be opposed to sometime, even if on principle alone. But with the Frenemies episode lost a little traction for me with that ending. As Dr Wolf had said when Grogar initially came onto the scene, using friendship against the mane six (or seven or eight or whatever it is now) would be a far better core tenant for the villains to come away with. While cartoon villains are fun because they're cartoon villains, that's also their downfall. Much like how Starscream ever plotting against Megatron was hilarious, it's also the cartoon trope flaw cementing that villains won't work together for too long because they resort to backstabbing and thus sabotage themselves. It would be a far more compelling case to show villains actually presenting their own united front, and not defeated by their own missteps or backstabbing plots, but the heroes overcoming them even in light of that, even if just barely by sheer will and luck alone. It would show how close things could really come, and how much everything actually does hang by a thread.
I want Chrysalis to remain a villain at the end of the series. So there'll always be a menace in the shadows.
Like the villains at the end of Justice League Unlimited.
I imagine she Tirek and Grogar would be stopped for good with Love and Friendship lasers while Cozy Glow on seeing that would meekly say. "I'm weady to be impwisioned for all eterwinty…" Rather that go the way of those three and Sombra.
You are ignoring show continuity, something the show has normally been good at. The show has been building up to Starlight redeeming Queen Chrysalis. They pretty much slap you in the face with this fact in Frenemies. They have established that Starlight needs to do this to show what she has learned from Twilight. Going against that ruins seasons of continuity, making this series a joke.
Man I really gotta catch up on MLP, Decided to rewatch the seasons before I go to the newer ones (I'm almost to season 5). I've been watching a lot of anime lately so I've gotten behind :I
You'll spoil everything! Hurry up and watch the seasons (season 5 is the best imo). The ending to mlp shall be spectacular and you should be a part of it.
@@shadowspector3611 you got it chief, thanks /)
Cønnør J: no prob (\
YES!!!
Let her be reformed
(Your ideas are always good doc I love all your thoughts and ideas)
WHAT, NO SHE DOESN'T NEED TO BE REFORMED, GOD, WHY DO PEOPLE SAY THIS, ITS DRIVING ME NUTS
thadmaster 7: because Chrysalis is the most broken out of all the villains and she's lost the most so she deserves a break
@@shadowspector3611 NO
@@shadowspector3611 FOR THE LAST TIME, SHE DOESN'T NEED A FREAKIN REDEMPTION. WE HAD ENOUGH OF THOSE
thadmaster 7: we've had, like, 2. Discord and Starlight Glimmer (Luna doesn't count).
We have to wait until the end
I think chryslis is gonig to be in g5 or turn to be good or make more changling eggs for a new gen of changling
I think your first idea is what's in store for her Celestia Luna Discord & maybe Tirek, they are going to transfer over to a new world or something like that, probably through Discord's abilities so they are all out of the way of the new order under Twilight.
Having that group in g5 would be a good grounding of good evil & neutral that's familiar so that the early righting can be free to explore the new main characters and not be slowed down having to explain them seeing as we know those characters already.
Or they could just be taking a sledgehammer to the series at its end and starting over from scratch in g5, we'll see.
I would like to see gen 5 take place in the same universe as gen 4 and have a new cast of main characters as "the fresh start" but it looks like it's going to be an entire reboot.
I always thought it would be interesting if it was revealed that Chrysalis kept a private stash of ponies/creatures with great love that was so good she couldn't take it all in, or want to, so she cocoons them in a hidden place (even from her own hoard) ... like a private stash. Whilst cocooned Chrysalis could feed on them eternally. It would be a great way to have Applejack's parents revealed to be alive (or at least tell us how they died/disappeared). With AJ teaching school and helping Twi rule Equestria we need a way to break her away from the farm. Her parents will return and take care of the farm so Granny Smith can retire, Applebloom can focus on her Crusading, and Big Mac can plan a life with Sugar Bell and potentially move to the former Equal Town.
Yup
Chrysalis reforming isn't much a stretch (I thinking Tirek and Cozy Glow will reform by the end of the season too). In 'Frienemies,' there wads a brief moment where she was considering a the power of friendship. Sure, she quickly repented, but it showed that she is capable of changing somewhat. Whether or not she actually does is up in the air until the season finale.
*wakes up and sees ur video* I must watch! *sits and watch* ooooo! I love this so much 😁
I think at the end the vilanes will all learn friendship 😊
the cutie mark Crusaders yeah....NOPE
@@SprinY_ it can be true they helped each other and it seemed like they were going to refrome
the cutie mark Crusaders yeah... were GOING
I hope Cozy sees friendship and joins the cmc
me too I also hope Bads return I would want for her to meet bad seed
I could picture Chrysalis getting changed, but using her powers to disguise back into her "normal" self and deny any modification to her personality in her pursuit of revenge...
Maybe she will reform
Great theory! Doc!
Sincerely Littlepip from Stable 2
The Pillars defeat villain, Young Six defeat villain, Villains defeat villain? Ok
Well she still needs her revenge against that swine starlight glimmer
Chrysalis can't keep this up forever.She'll have to give up sooner or later.
we can't tell if Chrysalis wants Cozy Glow and Tirek to betray Grogar so they can rule for themselves, that might be possible, but they are about to get backfired from him
Yeah, reformed changelings look...they look stupid!
I feel like they’ll be imprisoned and might release in a certain point in time
I think the writers are going to make Chrysalis become good soon as she will learn that friendship and having friends is nice for you if you or your friends know how to s treat each other well.
They did this idea with the Sirens in Backstage Pass
Chrysalis CANNOT and WILL NOT be redeemed
ok in my opinion i dont want to see the four villians reformed, i actually like that they dont reform every villian.
Yeah
i still don't like starlight reformed
I want Chrysalis reformed. it's the only way for her.
@@jimmyhook4852 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! SHE DOES NOT NEED TO REFORM, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT!!!!!!
I WANT HER REFORMED TO END HER ARC ON A GOOD NOTE!!!! NOT A BAD NOTE!!! THAT WOULD JUST BE SO WRONG FOR HER ARC TO END ON A BAD NOTE!!!! >:(
Here's an interesting thought. Cozy, Tirek. and Chrysalis are planning to betray Grogar and I assume Grogar knows about it. Grogar could use force to stop it but a more cunning way would be is to talk alone with Chrysalis and mention/hint a main part of his plan is to take back Chrysalis's Kingdom. And that would give Chrysalis a big decision to side with Grogar to reclaim her Kingdom or side with Tirek and Cozy to betray him but may not get back her kingdom.
Chrysalis is my favorite pony villain.
Cozy Glow is mine
Hi Dr.wolf May I ask you a question? Do Chrysalis have a background story? like was she was a good person and did she had someone to love her befor she turned evil please let me know because this my promblem with the show because this bad guys I mean this evil ponys don't have no background mean like marvel and dc super heroes the bad guys have background story 🤔
Maybe leave it up to the bronies to develop backstories on the mlp villains. I'm sure they have great ideas.
@@shadowspector3611 maybe you right
Might be happy to have more teammates to take down grogar but return to the old status quo after they save Equestria
Chrysalis will reform with Tirek and Cozy Glow
A bit of a neutral route then? I could see it, but it's stretch to see it out that way. The linchpin for me for this to work is if she connects the dots that way. Considering her arrogant streak is the size of a kaiju from Pacific Rim....I'd be down for the idea to pan out but doubt she'd bite.
If Gen4 and Gen5 are tied together, I'd like to see Chrysalis remain a villain. She could abandon Tirek and Cozy after Grogar's defeat, isolate herself far away from Equestria and raise some huge over-the-top scheme for revenge on all ponykind. I dunno, I just want Best Villain to leave FIM on a high note
That log is still preferable to Cozy or Triek. (God I hope I spelled that right)
Tirek*
I like your idea with Crysalis realizing she needs the other two to be better. she doesnt need to reform but I like the idea where the other two are powerless and she shares some of her power, not out of friendship, but out of there comradeship in there hatred of Grogar and the ponies. Her transformation should be different to since if she shares her power for a different reason her new form should be darker but in a pure sense, shes realized the madness she might spiral into if she is consumed by hatred but at the same time doesnt want to change who she is thus her new form reflects her true self, like say the reformed changlings are light side and Crysalis beomces a true Dark Changling its just another transformation in there life cycle they never knew about.
Oh dang, that would be cool to see. Like, in one of the final moments, Chrysalis unlocks her true darkness and becomes nightmare fuel. This could go both ways and have Chrysalis be the main villain of the ending series or she could be forced to go this dark in order to save Tirek or Cozy. Either way, I hope they bring back the voice modulation.
You, my friend, live a lie. The creators do not think in depth about the character of chrysalis. they are just thinking of ending the story and finish their work