@@robotman8444 is this a coop burner account or just a troll Lol. I also think it would be a great coating on a 29mm but brandon beat me to the comment. It used to be that 95% of lifters performed slow lifts compared to 5% fast/dynamic. Although the percentages have surely gotten closer together with CrossFit, most people in most settings use pressing movements so Eleiko could likely see more sales with a power bar version versus one for the snatch, clean, etc. I think everyone is kinda fascinated with this new coating and “1.2 knurl”. I certainly want to get my hands on one.
Bought one back in 2021 and loved using it. Unfortunately Eleiko recalled all the Hybrid bars last summer (juli 2023) due to safety reasons (Apparently a couple of the bars had broken). They offered to replace my bar to a new one from their XF or Performance range cost free. So I upgraded the Hybrid Bar to at Performance bar, worth almost twice as much - Love the service! 🙂
I bought an Eleiko Power Look because basically nothing is available in Europe for over a year now. I received it within a week and I am happily using it for 10 months now (while the Rogue stuff is still out of stock). So paying double was worth it for me at least.
Wondering why they went with 28mm shaft. Especially after reading on the Eleiko site that the bar is rooted in powerlifting (on the page comparing it to the XF bar), one would assume 28.5 or 29 would make more sense.
I have a barbell made by Dynamic Fitness. It's small company from Wisconsin. 28.5mm, bushing, medium knurl, dual marked, center knurl, 16.4" loadable sleeve space, made in USA. It was betweem this one and the Texas All American Bar. The only thing I didn't like about TAA is the limited loadable sleeve space.
Coop, thanks for the videos 🙏🏻 Wondering if you’ve ever had issues with corrosion/rusting in Eleiko weightlifting training bars? I’ll be looking for a weightlifting-specific bar for my garage gym in MA soon and worried about the humidity.
I came to the channel to ask for a review of this bar after I received the release notes from Eleiko today, and what did I find here: a fully fledged review. Thanks Coop. Since I am here, how does it compare to the Rogue Ohio Power Bar (stainless)? I am waiting for it here in Europe to become available, but after six months still nothing. Maybe this one is a good alternative.
Advice request… REP vs Rouge vs ISF? For similar price ($1500-$2000) you can get similar items (folding rack/bench/bar/bumper plates), but which quality is better and is it worth the price difference? I’ve lifted as a typical Jim left her for over 15 years but know nothing of the difference to look for.
The coating is probably carbonisation of the surface level of the steal in which carbon atoms are diffused in the top layer, increasing the hardness by up to 7 times. There are several watch company that use this technology. For example Sinn calls it Tegimentation. So it is very cool to see this in a barbell.
Hey Coop. Do you know the bar is already non longer available ! They told me that their chrome treatment resisted better to their enhanced testing and as they always aim to uphold the highest standard for product performance they no longer offer this version of the hybrid bar. 💩
Coop, just test the metallurgical composition with portable x-ray device. It will not harm the bar, and you will get to know the exact composition in a few seconds. As for corrosion resistive coating and scratching, do not let them fool you. Every scratch induces corrosion unless it is made of a noble metal, which cotrodes too, but just very slow. And no, there is no real Swedish cars any more, not after they sold Volvo brand and tech to Chienese car manufacturer. And Coop, yet another good vid from you.
I think they discontinued it or something, its page on the eleiko website returns a 404 error, coop can you find out what happened? Maybe its just an error, i was saving for this bar man
It's probably a DLC coating (Diamond like carbon). Which is used on a lot of knives. It has a hardness of around 5000-9000Hv or 90-98 hrc. It's as hard as diamond, and cleans up easily unless of course you scratch it with diamond.
Just go with a titan bar . Its great , built well, well priced , Nothing overbuilt . Just need a good bar with virtually no technical explanation of why its so great so its outrageously expensive. Where something this expensive truly only benifits the company selling it... But thanks Coop always great!
Coop, can you do a review and comparison of Rogue's New Ohio Bar 2.0S with this Eleiko Hybrid Bar. Debating between the three bars - Matt Chan, Eleiko Hybrid, Ohio Bar 2.0 (like the quietness factor). Already own the Rogue Ohio Power Bar 20kg Stainless Steel.
Coop, it looks like Chrome Moly. Vulcan Strength has been using this on thier barbells for a minute. Thier 4.0 version is cheaper and seems better. I'm actually going to buy it when I save up enough for it. But yeah, chrome molybdenum is the coating.
I've been lifting at home for about 3 years now and I just can't understand the point of all this expensive equipment, unless you are training to be a pro in weightlifting or power lifting then what's the point.
It's getting a bit obnoxious. You don't need any of that expensive crap. I swear some of these guys just like to look at their equipment rather than actually using it. Who cares about scratches! (Coop obviously does) It's a hard working mans bar. I personally like a little wear on my stuff.
I wonder if this finish is the same as the new rogue ohio 2.0S. Also, isn't it a "treatment" as opposed to a coating? I'm thinking it's similar to a chemical treatment or reaction. If they purposely oxidised it for example, the oxidised layer would be a physical barrier to prevent further corrosion. I don't think they have applied an additional finish ontop.
I think they made a mistake making it 28mm. Wouldn't it make sense for their hybrid bar to be between the 28mm weightlifting lifting bar and the 29mm power bar? A good hybrid bar in my opinion is 28.5mm, dual knurl mark, medium knurl, bushing, with center knurl.
@@richardmather1906 I am not sure, their IWF bar has a very similar if not identical tensile strength. Honestly I don't think tensile strength is a very good indicator of how stiff a barbell is going to be. At least not with the 190k+ modern barbells.
Nice review! What I want is an Ohio power bar without the center knurl to go with my Ohio power bar. In SS of course... any options out there that I should look at?
@@mattdienstag2413 I'm assuming he wants the aggressive knurling, the Ohio bar is very different from a power bar in that respect. To me it's almost smooth compared to a powerbar
It also bonds to the surface of the material it is applied to on the molecular level. It has very good corrosion resistance and is the same dark grey color.
If you can use the bar for cleans/snatches, wouldn't the whip of the bar be horrible for bench press? Did I miss the part where he skipped over the whip of the bar, or did he not mention it?
@@Rack979 well.. If only that was true. Bar whip is determined by the difference between yield strength and tensile strength (the load a barbell can handle, and the load under which it flexes). Anyway, afaik clean/snatch are horrible on a stiff bar and anything else but a stiff bar is horrible for bench. So I feel like you'd be better off buying 2 bars instead of this so called all rounder.
@@fantasyfighter4697 ruclips.net/video/ttlpKdeTWDU/видео.html I haven't considered whip among 28mm bars in years, since Nat/Hookgrip couldn't find a difference over all the bars he tested, from Rogue Training bars to Eleikos. These bars do operate in the elastic/sub-yield-strength zone (since they don't bend after regular use), so we probably want to look at Young's modulus instead. For different types of steels, it doesn't really vary, and I haven't found a way to get it to vary. And if you fix Young's Modulus, the weight on the bar and the initial length (since bars are built to IWF specs), the deflection is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the diameter. If you want a -/+1% difference in deflection, you're looking at 28.07mm vs 28.00mm vs 27.93mm. I would posit that any difference in whip would come down to construction tolerances (28mm bars actually being 28.00mm), since a thinner bar would require steel with a higher yield strength to stay in the elastic zone.
ruclips.net/video/AabpDN0Deo8/видео.html I think you might be right. Impregnate with Nitrogen and Carbon in a molten salt bath, then with Oxygen in another bath to form a black magnetite. Black NCO finish!
I wonder if anyone has tried to DLC coat barbell sleeves. 8 times harder than steel, it should prevent scratching. I also wonder if the coating on this bar is some kind of QPQ coating.
Bought my eleiko perfomance powerliftingbar and orderd one more. love it it. It is worth the money. This new bar mmm dont know. Dont like the color. Ohio power bar i also have, but no eleiko is my favorite.
A Swedish gentleman by the name of Christian von Koenigsegg made a very expensive super car called Koenigsegg lol. So yeah the price of that bar makes total sense.
Maybe diamonds, or diamond-like carbon like another commenter said. Maybe Titanium Nitride with carbon and oxygen substitutions in the molecular lattice. If that's what the "NCO" in "Black NCO Finish" is, that would make sense, since it's written Ti(NCO) for short. TiN and TiCN/TiNC seem like more popular coatings, though, and they do come in black.
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"Proprietary Swedish Steel" means it's made from recycled Volvos.
Would love to see them use this on one of their power bars. Hard time spending $1k on a bare steel bar.
fuck basement brandon, coop is the best
@@robotman8444 is this a coop burner account or just a troll Lol. I also think it would be a great coating on a 29mm but brandon beat me to the comment. It used to be that 95% of lifters performed slow lifts compared to 5% fast/dynamic. Although the percentages have surely gotten closer together with CrossFit, most people in most settings use pressing movements so Eleiko could likely see more sales with a power bar version versus one for the snatch, clean, etc. I think everyone is kinda fascinated with this new coating and “1.2 knurl”. I certainly want to get my hands on one.
Cooper -- Clearly you have crafted the best career ever, having fun playing with stuff. I really like your reviews. Congratulations and thank you.
I need to represent my Swedish homies and mention that Koenigsegg is is a Swedish car company and one of the most badass
Volvo is even more badass
Extremely badass
@@redgreen6436 no saab is ... o wait
@R L the real one, not fancy pants world
@@redgreen6436 OK!?!
Coop: does Sweden even make cars?
Christian Von Koenigsegg: am I a joke to you?
Volvo
Bought one back in 2021 and loved using it. Unfortunately Eleiko recalled all the Hybrid bars last summer (juli 2023) due to safety reasons (Apparently a couple of the bars had broken). They offered to replace my bar to a new one from their XF or Performance range cost free. So I upgraded the Hybrid Bar to at Performance bar, worth almost twice as much - Love the service! 🙂
I'd really wish Coop would put more barbell reviews out - Leoko, DHS, ZKC, Bulldog Gear UK, Vulcan bars etc - what he does is great and I want more!
I agree! As a woman we need more reviews for us too. Alot of bars are not fitted for us, too thick, too little knurling etc!
Proud owner of Eleiko sport barbell since 2016! Haven’t oiled it once!
Love the videos coop! Watch all your new and old vids 💪🏼 hope you keep this up!
We also make Volvo cars (which has nothing to do with your awesome reviews). Good content by the way!
Dont forget koenigsegg
@@jaska890 Wow, I had no clue they are built in Sweden. Rip.
I thought that China bought Volvo.
@@georget3790 I guess, but we still make some of them here :)
Idk why I bother watching eleiko reviews 😭 this shit cost a whole leg plus $500
If you considered the cost as an arm instead of a leg, then it would be extremely difficult to use indeed, and hence, no reason to buy.
Says the guy who claims he spent $20,000 on his home gym 😀😂😅🤣
@@franisdaman hey shhhhh 😂
I bought an Eleiko Power Look because basically nothing is available in Europe for over a year now. I received it within a week and I am happily using it for 10 months now (while the Rogue stuff is still out of stock). So paying double was worth it for me at least.
Sweden gang ah ooof!
Wondering why they went with 28mm shaft. Especially after reading on the Eleiko site that the bar is rooted in powerlifting (on the page comparing it to the XF bar), one would assume 28.5 or 29 would make more sense.
Honestly excited to see more manufactures come out with hybrid bars w/ center knurl. Now up to a whopping 3: Chan, this Eleiko, and TPB's AAB
Forgot the fringe sport hybrid bar
@@kevinbaker5630 glad to hear we're up to a monstrous 4 now
I'd consider the Rogue B&R a hybrid bar, even though it's a 29 mm bar
I have a barbell made by Dynamic Fitness. It's small company from Wisconsin. 28.5mm, bushing, medium knurl, dual marked, center knurl, 16.4" loadable sleeve space, made in USA. It was betweem this one and the Texas All American Bar. The only thing I didn't like about TAA is the limited loadable sleeve space.
@@yevgeniyfiskin4781 how do you like it?
Coop, thanks for the videos 🙏🏻 Wondering if you’ve ever had issues with corrosion/rusting in Eleiko weightlifting training bars? I’ll be looking for a weightlifting-specific bar for my garage gym in MA soon and worried about the humidity.
This is basically the bar I asked for when I ordered the XF bars (asking for a center knuckling).
Coop, you had me at “new barbell”…. Time to think of another reason to tell the wife I need another one….
The soda pop sound killed me 😂
Coop, your voice and eyes light up over this bar!
I came to the channel to ask for a review of this bar after I received the release notes from Eleiko today, and what did I find here: a fully fledged review. Thanks Coop.
Since I am here, how does it compare to the Rogue Ohio Power Bar (stainless)? I am waiting for it here in Europe to become available, but after six months still nothing. Maybe this one is a good alternative.
Advice request… REP vs Rouge vs ISF? For similar price ($1500-$2000) you can get similar items (folding rack/bench/bar/bumper plates), but which quality is better and is it worth the price difference? I’ve lifted as a typical Jim left her for over 15 years but know nothing of the difference to look for.
The coating is probably carbonisation of the surface level of the steal in which carbon atoms are diffused in the top layer, increasing the hardness by up to 7 times. There are several watch company that use this technology. For example Sinn calls it Tegimentation.
So it is very cool to see this in a barbell.
Hey Coop. Do you know the bar is already non longer available ! They told me that their chrome treatment resisted better to their enhanced testing and as they always aim to uphold the highest standard for product performance they no longer offer this version of the hybrid bar. 💩
IKEA is coming out with a bar too. It’s impossible to assemble and comes with meatballs.
Coop, just test the metallurgical composition with portable x-ray device. It will not harm the bar, and you will get to know the exact composition in a few seconds. As for corrosion resistive coating and scratching, do not let them fool you. Every scratch induces corrosion unless it is made of a noble metal, which cotrodes too, but just very slow. And no, there is no real Swedish cars any more, not after they sold Volvo brand and tech to Chienese car manufacturer. And Coop, yet another good vid from you.
Koenigsegg?
I think they discontinued it or something, its page on the eleiko website returns a 404 error, coop can you find out what happened? Maybe its just an error, i was saving for this bar man
This is the first bar from Eleiko that I’m actually interested in. :)
"This is the best coating in the world!"
Cool what is it called?
...
Black NCO Finish according to the bar's webpage!
All the bars in the gyms in the world and you has to come to mine.
Coop, an outdoor storage of this bar for a year, do it for science!
It's probably a DLC coating (Diamond like carbon). Which is used on a lot of knives. It has a hardness of around 5000-9000Hv or 90-98 hrc. It's as hard as diamond, and cleans up easily unless of course you scratch it with diamond.
Can you do an episode on how to construct a gym depending on age bracket? Does a 50 yr old need a squat rack?
Every age needs a squat rack
What sizes does it come in. 28 - 28 1/2 - 29mm ?
This could very well be my next bar.
Ordered the bar! Should be here in 2 weeks! Excited! Hoping to replace the Bare-Steel OPB I own!
how do you like it so far?
Just go with a titan bar . Its great , built well, well priced , Nothing overbuilt . Just need a good bar with virtually no technical explanation of why its so great so its outrageously expensive. Where something this expensive truly only benifits the company selling it... But thanks Coop always great!
> Talks about Ohio bar and Ohio bar knurl
> Shows SS Ohio power bar and Ohio power bar knurl
> Complains it's too passive
> ???
I noticed that too
I was wondering about that as well.
Yeah, Ohio power bar knurl is even more aggressive than Coops Mustache.
American Barbell also has a more passive center knurl on their competition bar. They call it Ghost Knurling.
Coop, can you do a review and comparison of Rogue's New Ohio Bar 2.0S with this Eleiko Hybrid Bar. Debating between the three bars - Matt Chan, Eleiko Hybrid, Ohio Bar 2.0 (like the quietness factor). Already own the Rogue Ohio Power Bar 20kg Stainless Steel.
I would love to see that too
Pretty sure the Fringe hybrid bar has a passive center knurl and it's been out waaay longer, do a comparo vid on em.
The minute your review goes up - bing, my email notification, hi this Eleiko we have a new Hybrid bar, check it out haha, haha
Coop, it looks like Chrome Moly. Vulcan Strength has been using this on thier barbells for a minute. Thier 4.0 version is cheaper and seems better. I'm actually going to buy it when I save up enough for it. But yeah, chrome molybdenum is the coating.
They using molly?? Disturbing that they would use drugs
@@adriansweitzer1599 your mind is in the gutter bru.
Polestar, the luxury sports car spinoff from Volvo, is headquartered in Sweden.
I'm going to say that it is melonite coated or nitride coated which is the same thing more or less as melaniting.
center knurl should be on all bars, if you dont want it just cover it with some masking tape, and when you need it, you have it!
How would you separate this and the Rack Bar?
You should do a video on the XF bar
I've been lifting at home for about 3 years now and I just can't understand the point of all this expensive equipment, unless you are training to be a pro in weightlifting or power lifting then what's the point.
It's getting a bit obnoxious. You don't need any of that expensive crap. I swear some of these guys just like to look at their equipment rather than actually using it. Who cares about scratches! (Coop obviously does) It's a hard working mans bar. I personally like a little wear on my stuff.
I wonder if this finish is the same as the new rogue ohio 2.0S. Also, isn't it a "treatment" as opposed to a coating? I'm thinking it's similar to a chemical treatment or reaction. If they purposely oxidised it for example, the oxidised layer would be a physical barrier to prevent further corrosion. I don't think they have applied an additional finish ontop.
It's unobtanium. They finally found a way to harness and apply it!
Love the channel!
Serious video man
Bar looks nice but I got a real weird question for you coop. Do you deal with a lot of spiders in your garage gym?
When are you going to review ATX bars?
I must buy this.
When. Is the give away for this bar?
how about review of leg press attachment for squat racks
Perhaps a bruniton-like finish like Beretta uses on the 92FS?
Do you have any reviews on the giantlifting hybrid barbell
was there ever an updated review on this?
I think they made a mistake making it 28mm. Wouldn't it make sense for their hybrid bar to be between the 28mm weightlifting lifting bar and the 29mm power bar? A good hybrid bar in my opinion is 28.5mm, dual knurl mark, medium knurl, bushing, with center knurl.
Maybe the higher tensile steel makes up for the difference between 28 and 28.5?
@@richardmather1906 I am not sure, their IWF bar has a very similar if not identical tensile strength. Honestly I don't think tensile strength is a very good indicator of how stiff a barbell is going to be. At least not with the 190k+ modern barbells.
@@yevgeniyfiskin4781 Yeah, I have no idea myself.
Nice review!
What I want is an Ohio power bar without the center knurl to go with my Ohio power bar. In SS of course... any options out there that I should look at?
An Ohio bar?
@@mattdienstag2413 I'm assuming he wants the aggressive knurling, the Ohio bar is very different from a power bar in that respect. To me it's almost smooth compared to a powerbar
One day I’ll be able to afford an eleiko 😩
One day young grasshopper.
The coating could be diamond-like carbon. It is an extremely thin wear resistant coating which can be harder than natural diamond.
It also bonds to the surface of the material it is applied to on the molecular level. It has very good corrosion resistance and is the same dark grey color.
I could pick up a gently used one for $450. Should I do it?
Hey Coop, FYI: do you know that the Eleiko Hybrid Bar has been discontinued? WTF? Know why?
I didn’t…time to investigate!
@@GarageGymReviews Please let me know what you find out. I mean, WTF?
Could be parkerized. That's a great coat on certain rifles and protects from the elements
My guess is DLC. Looks too smooth for park.
@@Nick-jg9ck DLC would be super expensive, right?
Reminds me of gun blueing. I've actually been thinking about doing it to my bare steel bar but don't know how it would affect the knurl
Or black nitride since he didn't mention that.
Coop you da man
its the Borg of bars. simply the best
All this fancy equipment and he looks like he plays golf
Can you review Costco’s power cage? Inspire FPC1 power cage. It’s $800 at Costco. Better/worse than Titan?
Anyone know why these aren’t available on their website?
Wonder if its the DLC they use on knives?
How’s about a review of the Eleiko Rack Bar?
Coop … how did you mount your cell phone ??
Has anyone tried to paint knurling to take out some of aggressiveness, when it is too aggressive?
If you can use the bar for cleans/snatches, wouldn't the whip of the bar be horrible for bench press? Did I miss the part where he skipped over the whip of the bar, or did he not mention it?
If whip is determined by diameter, it's going to whip like every other 28mm weightlifting bar, quite a bit.
@@Rack979 well.. If only that was true. Bar whip is determined by the difference between yield strength and tensile strength (the load a barbell can handle, and the load under which it flexes).
Anyway, afaik clean/snatch are horrible on a stiff bar and anything else but a stiff bar is horrible for bench. So I feel like you'd be better off buying 2 bars instead of this so called all rounder.
@@fantasyfighter4697 ruclips.net/video/ttlpKdeTWDU/видео.html I haven't considered whip among 28mm bars in years, since Nat/Hookgrip couldn't find a difference over all the bars he tested, from Rogue Training bars to Eleikos.
These bars do operate in the elastic/sub-yield-strength zone (since they don't bend after regular use), so we probably want to look at Young's modulus instead. For different types of steels, it doesn't really vary, and I haven't found a way to get it to vary. And if you fix Young's Modulus, the weight on the bar and the initial length (since bars are built to IWF specs), the deflection is inversely proportional to the fourth power of the diameter. If you want a -/+1% difference in deflection, you're looking at 28.07mm vs 28.00mm vs 27.93mm. I would posit that any difference in whip would come down to construction tolerances (28mm bars actually being 28.00mm), since a thinner bar would require steel with a higher yield strength to stay in the elastic zone.
This dude literally spends 11 mins reviewing a bar. A straight bar.
Hi Coop. Can you review some other brands and products like the Domyos 900 Rack for your international audience pleeeaaase 🥺
Is the bar coating DLC?
I'm thinking maybe black nitride, it's another type of gun coating
ruclips.net/video/AabpDN0Deo8/видео.html I think you might be right. Impregnate with Nitrogen and Carbon in a molten salt bath, then with Oxygen in another bath to form a black magnetite. Black NCO finish!
I just died when the camera guy started talking
Discontinued product?
I thought this was going to be a hybrid review of the Eleiko hybrid bar and the Hybrid Athletics brush
So Matt Chan bar is way better for half of the price! (Stainless Steel + cerakote)
It’s probably plasma vapor deposition. Or „Carbon like diamond“.
It's a Rogue 2.0 cerakote copy for $/£700. Double the price of the Rogue multi purpose bar.
Maybe nickel boron. It is used it to coat bolt carriers on AR-15s.
May I ask where did you get that in rack dip bar attachments?
Custom made for him, from Backwidow if i remember right
I wonder if anyone has tried to DLC coat barbell sleeves. 8 times harder than steel, it should prevent scratching. I also wonder if the coating on this bar is some kind of QPQ coating.
Westside Power Bar
Hands Down
Coop you need to do something with the audio
I can barely hear your voice
Hey guys coop knurling here for garage gym reviews. 😆🤣😂
Bought my eleiko perfomance powerliftingbar and orderd one more. love it it. It is worth the money. This new bar mmm dont know. Dont like the color. Ohio power bar i also have, but no eleiko is my favorite.
Wasn't the Sport bar designed for this?
I thought you said that you weren’t a fan of the Chan 1.2 bar... 😒
A Swedish gentleman by the name of Christian von Koenigsegg made a very expensive super car called Koenigsegg lol. So yeah the price of that bar makes total sense.
Rogue Ohio 2.0S review please!!
Hey Coop
It's gold plated?
Maybe diamonds, or diamond-like carbon like another commenter said. Maybe Titanium Nitride with carbon and oxygen substitutions in the molecular lattice. If that's what the "NCO" in "Black NCO Finish" is, that would make sense, since it's written Ti(NCO) for short. TiN and TiCN/TiNC seem like more popular coatings, though, and they do come in black.
ruclips.net/video/AabpDN0Deo8/видео.html Upon further research, I think it's Black Nitride.
The coating is not proprietary. They're keeping it a secret to delay other companies from immediately implementing it.
9:40 KOENIGSEGG!!!!