1967 Plymouth Belvedere II: Regular Car Reviews
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I love the owner's approach to dailying a classic, because so many people unnecessarily baby cars like this.
"Look, people drove these Belvederes in the winter back in the day..." so he dailys it.
I dig it.
I love the poster's approach to furrying a classic, because so many people just think of it as a classic newspaper cartoon instead of something yifffy.
Jazz Thread - What the fuck are you talking about?? :/
tbh I've considered putting Holley Sniper EFI and high energy ignition (OK so HEI has been a plan for some time now. The car won't start right now, possibly due to the condenser/points, idk, it coughs a bit but doesn't start and continue running, if it IS that, I'll see if my dad knows were to get an HEI converter and I'll just borrow my mom's car until I can get my guy to install the ignition chip) on my '66 Olds, because cold starts can be an absolute pain in the ass, and because Sniper is throttle body injected. No fuel rails, self tuning ECU that's incorporated into the throttle body, inline electric fuel pump, none of that shit that's unnecessarily difficult to access. It's also performance oriented ETBFI, and I've been debating having some performance upgrades (like cams, stronger rods, etc) when I can afford them. Possibly a full numbers matching performance rebuild for the engine and tranny (the old 2-speed Jetaway is pretty sluggish) so I can smoke some lower end sports cars. maybe even a straightpipe?
(EDIT: don't get me wrong, I still like carburetion, but for a daily driver, performance throttle body EFI, which is essentially electronic carburetion compared to modern EFI, just seems more reliable at this point. At one time, I woulda said Carburetion was more reliable, but now I think they're evenly matched. both good in certain situations. A fun car would do great with carburetion, because you wouldn't need it to start reliably every single day. A restomod vintage car with its own fair share of OEM quality and aftermarket performance could make for a good, reliable, and zippy daily driver.)
The RUclips Phantom Official - That would be pretty rad.
Oh it would be totally rad! I'm just a bit strapped for cash at the moment, and the whole setup would cost a good maybe 5 grand. QQ if you know, I'd appreciate the help, does Sniper EFI support mechanical fuel pumps? I don't mind the idea of an electrical fuel pump, but I've read about the criteria for placement and wiring, and it seems to be a real pain in the ass.
Actually... you're right. You would get better mileage out of a 4bbl for the reasons you mentioned and (assuming you had the will power to stay out of the gas... somehow) a 4bbl has smaller primary barrels than a 2bbl only 2 barrles, therefor using less gas, until the secondaries are opened under load at which point the 4bbl is then using more fuel.... but who cares because horsepower.
Instablaster
Legendary comment 🙌
The primaries are only smaller on a spread bore carb such as a Thermoquad . The reason that mileage increases with the 4 barrel is that the plenum beneath the carb is quite a bit larger allowing for better atomization of the fuel.
“Who cares because horsepower” is now my favorite quote
1:05 dude look at that wheel wobble lol
that does NOT look safe.
Could be a bad belt in that tire.
I looked at it closer.... the rim is bent
my OCD is kicking in...christ help me
Yeah, 5:50 the whole wheel is running out of true.
Get thee to an alignment shop.
the Plymouth Belvedere a car so square that wheels look out of place on it
Even the exhaust tips...
6:16 that wheel wobble though
Doesn't look very safe
Exactly what I was going to type. Either a very crooked tire or a completely busted bearing.
better than $50 and one hour under jack stands to replace Honda wheel bearings, not to mention safer and more economical! right? right? :)))
Nope, the rim wobbles, so it's not the tire.
rasz right! :)
That classic wheel wobble..... His Acura that needs 2 wheel bearings probably has less wobble.
Is it normal?? It looks like the wheel can fall off at any moment
Yeah dude
How the hell does 2 wheel bearings total a car???? Just replace them... What a fucking idiot
@@runninggames771 I mean to be fair he doesnt want to buy them because the fix would cost more than the car is worth...he never implied it was totaled.
@@crazyjerry1852 that's literally what totaled means. The repairs cost more then the cars value.
@@runninggames771 Lmao so when my shitbox blows a bearing that costs like 50 dollars more than the car, the car is immediately totaled?
The wheels and hubcaps are ftom a mid 80s police car, so they don’t support the police car claim.
@Ignacio Ahmir everything I read said it was fake
Congratz, you're not falling for the bots.
The base engine in a 1967 Plymouth B-Body is a 3.7 L (225ci) Slant 6.
Cars of this size and class were almost purpose built to be mobile motel rooms for teenagers and frustrated young adults to copulate in the back. More people were conceived in these than in wedlock.
I came from the back of an AMC gremlin X....
How u doing hagbardceline?
RCR always collects the most interesting people in his comment section
I'm pretty sure my cousin was conceived in the back of a Dodge Omni...
My ex and I used to bone in my Plymouth Sundance hatch/on the folded seat. Worst hatchback sex ever
"...that your WIFE went with a lack of sleep as a cheap alternative to eye shadow... " This car looks exactly that.
AutoAgitator "Lack of sleep"
buddhavskungfu Staying up late gettin the BUSINESS from HAROLD SLOVKINSKY
Henry Brown LMAOOO
One of my fav RCR episodes
If you're wondering if its a genuine police car, check if it has a cop motor, cop shocks, cop tyres- wait, wrong car.
Here's hoping the salt doesn't wreck this one.
Hopefully the owner gave it an oil spray.
It will
It's use Fluid Film (or some other good oil spray) or Die; Pennsylvania's winters are unforgiving to the unprepared.
That a reference to roads in the winter or that synthwave video?
Fluid film every year! Basically the car stays greasy so the water and salt don't get to the metal
I came for the car reviews, but I stayed for the **BROWN**
chbrules car show?
That AMC Ambassador was gorgeous.
Damn the front wheel, is it actually attached, or just duct taped on?
It's most likely just bent, I think you'd be surprised how often those steel wheels are bent like that.
Its staying in place with the strength of friendship
"His acura needs one wheel bearing, or two wheel bearings" *Watches video and notices the wobbling front wheel* WHERE THE FUCK DOES HE LIVE? Does he hit every pothole possible?
Welcome to Pennsylvania, I guess. The local Aldi parking lot's held together with holes (I'm exaggerating.)
Yeah, he prolly does in BOTH cars - LOL.
it's actually looks quite modern for a 1967 car, it could totally pass for 1980's era car (at least from the front).
B.D.B. No
have a look at European cars from that era, namely BMW 3 series and peugeot 305.
Again no, its way to boxy. That era BMW had actual curved edges on the leading edges of the panels these just end.
i guess you should've specified american car, geez. bmw's. total usa presence was like 13, 14 total cars then? :p
@@gzuzsavz No. More. Popular, see them in Back to the Future(1985)
"More augmented than J.C. Denton." Dude you made my day with that XD
First time I got laid in a car was in the backseat of this exact model lol. Ahh those were the days of the bench seats and gobs of room back there. Good memories
Chris Dooley I did it in the back if a modern subcompact. It didn't work out so well XD
Mine was in a '65 Bonneville...enough room in that car to have a full on orgy.
Mine was in the reclined front passenger seat of a 1987 Volvo 740.
Not as much room as in a Plymouth but pretty close, the backseat was already taken..
Mine was an '05 suzuki ignis...
SWT Owen At least it wasn't a vehicross!
My god I want that car.
nooranik21 I WAUNT IT
The speech from 6:56 is worth some applause.
AutoAgitator I think those of us that are old enough to remember the last gasps of a time period where things were special, have every right to look back at those times and wonder where we are going. I remember that I needed to get dressed up to go out to dinner. I remember women in white gloves and men in hats. I remember my mother when my father got home with their first new car and she didn't think it was nice enough to take out on special nights. And we were thoroughly middle class, if that. It is in fact that class of people that used to try and strive to feel and make things feel special. Flying was still special. A trip to the store was special. That period and then very end of that period that I got to experience gave birth to the greatest uplift of human beings in human history until the Chinese would copy it. The people who crave simpler times are no more ridiculous than those who point out their flaws. A middle class person today has more economic freedom than Rockefeller but that doesn't mean our modern lives are more fulfilling. They simply aren't.
And the current state of sex panic is a direct result of of the shift from when "no" was the default answer to where "yes" is the default answer and you have to explain why it might be a "no." Many people no longer know how to say "no" often believing it to be too difficult and then regret it later and/or see themselves as a victim needing their pound of flesh.
We have lost the native intelligence we once had. We clearly cannot handle the complexities we have forced upon ourselves. Those simpler times might have been out best days.
It's not about which times were better. The idea is that human beings have a tendency to remember only the good things to help them survive.
Those might have been grand old times if you were white in the US.
No remembering in the late 50s when Rocket Boy Homer Hickam JR's cat was run over, either...? The Rocket Boys didn't get an easy start.
Mr. Regular always drops some mad truth on you in his closing lines.
Dat wheel wobble at 1:40..
and 1:03
and 6:16
dont forget 5:47
Its almost hypnotizing.
scares the shit out of me
That front right wobble is rather disconcerting
"More augmented than JC Denton"
He doesn't even need a single fact to back that up.
Yup, a front bench seat. How else are you gonna see paradise by the dashboard lights?
Anybody else notice the front passenger wheel had a bit of a wobble? Dude should probably look into that.
From the sound of it, he'd rather just buy a new car than fix things
master cylinder puking fluid, oil leaks everywhere wheel wobble from hell, cant be bothered to fix the daily. REGULAR DEATHTRAP REVIEWS
I would watch the shit out of that.
bent rim. PA potholes claim another victim.
After that glorious mess of a Subaru maybe you're on to something, ThatDamnS10
I have a lot of respect for Dana for daily driving that car.
I don’t, because he’s driving it in salt and destroying what looks like a solid car. There is som any things I need off that car like front fenders and he’s literally turning them to scrap.
Going Belvedere cruising tonight.
You got nothing to lose but your life.
It can take away your blues;
All you've gotta do is cruise,
In my big black Plymouth Belvedere tonight.
My dad had a 68 two door with the 440 four barrel he restored it and rebuilt the engine with performance parts himself. This really brings back memories.
1:47 Wrong! the 383 is a mopar B block (along with the 350, 361, and 400) and the 426 hemi is a mopar RB block (along with the 383 for 1959 and 1960, 426 Wedge, 413, and 440)
That's correct, I can't believe you knew about the 383 RB block of 1959 and 1960. 💯. Good job.
Is that Doug Demuro's million mile Acura?
Every time RCR reviews a classic his inner postmodernist starts oozing out.
I think this might be one of the best ones yet. Great mix of humor, education, and making excellent (and sometimes rather unexpected) life points. Its one reason I always come back to this channel.
that is such a good looking car
despite this particular one not being in the greatest of shape
Yea I'm really digging it.
The styling looked even better on C Body's. William H Macy drives a 67 Newport in The Cooler, and for a 4 door boat, it looks sweet
@@FirebirdCamaro1220 yaaaas! i drove a 66 newport from 90-00 and loved every mile. fabulous car in every way, both mechanically and ofc the looks. drove like a dream.
The 60's and 70's were as good as people remember them to be, if you weren't there it's not something that can really be explained to you. Even the people that were getting their ass beat in Selma or Chicago feel nostalgic for those times. Those years were so much the same as every ones else that was living formative years had been. Those years were linked to their own past by familiarity and sameness. Consumer digital products have torn us away from that era as much as the pilgrims had been torn away from the the stone age, but in a much, much shorter time. Nostalgia is the pain of old wounds remembered fondly. A new species has been created now, not just a new era or generation. That is what people of the 60's and 70's are really nostalgic about, the old model of person.
I agree
i barely recognize america, compared even to the 80s & 90's, much less the 70's.
@InfiniteMushroom sounds like what i just posted on the thread below the Star Wars XI trailer: "..long, long ago..in a country called America that no longer exists, as was. YT thread comments are proof. Trolls, shade casters and shallow minded, one liner baloney. I was 11 when the first Star Wars came out. I've seen every one a bunch of times, including original theatrical release..and I
woops? episode IX. I guess I've slipped a cog. I'll get a dbl roller, billet steel typing gear, next time :)
My Dad had a 1967 Dodge Polara. White. Four door. Red interior. He had three young children and a German import wife to haul around. I was nine years old in 1967. Lived in the suburbs of Hartford, Connecticut. My Red Sox were in the world series. They lost, I cried. Thanks for the memories.
Thank you guys for the great videos! I did not expect a car review video to be so thought provoking. I look forward to more stories about the past lives of our beloved and sometimes bemoaned cars! Love it!
Welcome to the hipster lifestyle, where nothing from the past can hurt you
Exam tomorrow and it's 4am. This takes priority!
I made up for it by waiting to watch until one month later.
Best episode in a while! I like that it focuses more on the context in which these cars were made and the type of people that had them. Reminds me of the early Lincoln Towncar and Grand Cherokee episodes. Well done!
I've been a fan since the beginning guys and I love seeing a notification that you have uploaded, this one struck a cord for me man. Keep up the good work.
that wheel wobble...
Some things with Chrysler never change.
I'm your daaaaaaaaaaaaaad
Sledge go to your rrroom
"Go to your corner."
You've been screwing up in church too much.
Sledge #justlikemydad @Donutmedia
I had that exact car....with a 318 and power steering, drove it from 1978-1983. Good power and handling, always wanted a GTX, though!
BTW, was available with the 225 six.
Omg this is your best video yet! Keep em coming man 👌🏾
needs more Mopar stuff. this car makes this a great vid.
This car is so cool. I like how the greenhouse is so simple you can see straight past it when you are behind it. It doesn't have dumb wind swept curves or lines.
"... and they are all Mopar LA blocks..." Hemi fanboys are Darting in and readying to dump a full Six Pak of Fury on you right now XD
Tianze Li sorry about that, i screwed up
I see what you did there...
383 wasn't LA either, that was a B big block (like the 400 and 440)
440 is actually a raised deck B block, hence the RB designation.
Don't worry about it, everyone makes mistakes. Keep the awesome videos coming!
That was such a poetic ending. Thank you RCR.
Love these philosophical moments of man and machine, keep it up!
OHHHHHHH BELVEDERE, COME HERE BOY!
Hey guys remember Plymouth? That car that you saw in the 90s that was more of the same old shit just less Brown
Right front wheel is wobbling BAAAD!!HOW CAN YOU NOT FEEL THAT IN THE STEERING??
My dad restomodded a 1967 Plymouth Satellite and used it for his daily driver in the 80's. I learned to drive in that car. I miss it. It was the most fun I ever had in a car. That thing would move.
2bbl vs 4bbl in power and fuel economy: ok, assume with a 4bbl swap you also are swapping out the intake manifold to a square bore 4bbl pattern. A 4bbl carb will likely be “larger” (say 650 cfm vs 500 cfm of two barrel), but as long as you stay out of the secondaries, you are running maybe 400cfm.
The 4bbl gives you economy when cruising but power on demand when you need it. That said, if you had to flog this car to get it moving, a 4bbl carb wouldn’t help as you’d constantly be on the secondaries and just sucking down more gas.
Engines of this age are just seriously down on power though due to wear. Its not really fair to judge how a car was 50 years ago by how it is today.
agreed. id check cylinder pressure in this thing. but it could just be a tweaked set of points away from being more spritely and delivering better mpg. + what's the rear gear ratio? ppl not so rarely ordered crazy gears even in an otherwise pedestrian car..4.10's & stuff, lol. may explain why it's quick, then plateaus. like she's floating the valves..or running out of breath, bc mild engine. but 110 mph is a bit of a stretch with a well worn 273. Hmm. so may questions!! lmbo. id drop a 360 in it. 90 cube jump, same weight, probs same mpg if a stock ish build & add like 100 hp, too with a 340 cam.
Time for Daaaaaaaaaaaaaad
Love the 3/4 shot from the next lane, great way to show the car in the road!
Mr. Regular the writing on this episode was excellent just superbly crafted. Especially the opening part. You guys should write stories, or tackle the great America novel. A good road trip book would be nice.
Most underrated car ever
Great review, leading up to kind of weird last sentence. Yes, both people and machines can mean different things and 'reinvent themselves', but in the case of cars that's only because anything that we associate with them, any image that we impose on them is our own - it represents our biases, hopes, dreams, fears and past experiences - we made them and they can change at any time - just as we can. The car is a somewhat-blank slate that we fill with meaning. But people reinventing themselves is something different altogether. We don't change just because the way the world sees us has changed. We do it with hard work, and becoming of age, and educating ourselves and hundred other things. And that's how I would tie that in with cars - the idea and aura surrounding them can be subject to change, but the machines are unchanging. We can change around them, along with the way we see them.
Or is that just what you meant?
You seem to have come round circle back to his original meaning. xD
Yeah, I noticed that too, that's what my question at the end is about. ;P While writing I decided I wasn't actually sure what he meant so I put it there.
no, i'm with you. i thought the last sentence was kind of a weird way to get that point across.
i think that's a reference to the ending of Terminator 2. at least that's what im choosing to think it is
This episode was deep.
I now must buy a Belvedere.
In 1000+ comments below someone's surely pointed out many, many of these had the 225 six. Even many of the full size Furys had the 6 standard.
A car for Bob Uecker.
This video needs more B-R-O-W-N
I had a 1976 Oldsmobile Delta 88 with a 4 bbl carburetor and it got better as gas mileage than a 1970 Chevy Belair with a 2bbl carburetor . So you are right in saying a 4bbl carburetor was more economical than a 2bbl.
We had a 1965. So many memories with Mom, Dad, and 8 kids.
Let me know the next time you’re out in SoCal and if you want to drive a ‘64 Cutlass with an LS swap but stock suspension snd brakes. Hahaha
Stephen E Fuck I hope this video happens
You'll have to submit your car to the RCR eMail if you want that to happen:
ruclips.net/video/6FybbkVGCAE/видео.html
What in fucks world is going on with that right front wheel wobble???
Crash fucked his sister so hard in the back seat once, it budged loose.
My grandpa's Holden Rodeo was an ex cop car. It was a transport vehicle for moving criminals in the 90s, it had a massive 120L fleet custom fuel tank for getting between the long distances between prisons in Australia. It was purchased from the auctions in the early 2000s. Tank eventually rusted out due to ethonal, now its just a normal tank.
Most meaningful and sincere car reviewer.. Pleasure to watch and listen
The Belvedere to the Coronet is what Solange is to Beyoncé. Pretty much the same, but a few less people actually care.
It fuck nice
I love old car
Ok, time to calm down from watching reviews of death machines and see the return of “Regular Classics”.
I will never forget replacing the stock 2bbl carb & cast iron inlet manifold for an Edlebrock performer and 4BBL 600cfm on my 360 LA. Then I ditched the factory exhaust system for a set of tuned-length headers and a 2 1/2" single system.
Boy o boy did it wake it up!
soooooo reeeguulllarrr
It's 4:15 am and I'm watching some RCR!!! hehehe I love my Plymouth!! *COME TO OHIO AND REVIEW MY 1975 PLYMOUTH VALIANT*
Already did a valiant
Simply incredible! Great job guys.
*"Talking out my ass here"*
The only accurate part of that segment.
too much madmen and the young turks I guess lol
Wont drive Acura with bad wheel bearing... dailies 60 year old death trap with wheel wobble. Kudos.
hey if you gotta die, die in style lol
Die like real men!
that car looks like one of the early nissan skylines, well or the skyline looks just like this car :D
Your face looks like one of the early Metal Sonics.
That’s an insult
The comment about the cops is fitting, its weird how so many people do not think about policemen the same way as many other things. When one of them is bad, they're all bad.
Good video.
So reminiscent of the '69 Dart that I daily in New England; I enjoyed this. Glad to know I'm not the only one commuting in an ancient Mopar family car in the snow.
Mr Regular has some daddy issues
M Napoletano we all do. Either didn't have a dad around or some milquetoast or self absorbed. We had to learn to be men on our own and it's tough and we're worse for it.
Yeah pretty much
His dad was a navy officer.
Yar.
There are people I know who didnt and theyre way better off even if they didnt come from very much money
One thing ill say though is its not just daddy issues for me its resentment toward both parents. Neither of them was abusive horrible etc to me but they couldnt put their bullshit between themselves aside for 2 minutes to give a shit about my brother or i. And when they split up they tried to use us as pawns in a stupid fucking game between eachother because we actually wanted to have a relationship with both our parents and not just see one and shut the other out like they wanted. And ill say ultimately i never really learned to be a man probably never really will and at this point i dont really give a shit. My buddy and i make enough working shit store jobs to rent a not terrible not great place to live with enough left over to keep cheap food in our fridge 87 gas in our tanks so long as we dont floor it very often with enough left over for beer, dope or saving a bit in case we need it in an emergency depending on what we feel like doing with our non rent portion of what we make and fuck it at least were self sustaining and dont take any handouts theres no point in my mind in putting any more effort in beyone not living on others backs while society circles the toilet anyway. The only thing i care about putting any real effort into is keeping my car nice and hopefully saving for a manual swap.
Spent all his money on a snap on jacket instead of a wheel hub #Priorities
This was a great one, especially the theory towards the end!
thee best commentary i have ever heard! thank you
Can you review an American 50's WingaDingaMobile?
He did a mid-50s Olds 88.
How do you get so little power from such a large engine?
Mr DribbleShit 44hp/lt is pretty avarage for a regular engine of the 60's. Tecnology has progressed quite a lot since then. Even high performance cars like the Jaguar e-type of the same period had only 63hp/lt.
This was over 40 years ago, tech has really improved over the years which is no surprise really. You pop the hood of a modern car take off the plastic cover and see how complex and cramped it is while this has acres of space and simplicity when you pop the hood
its because of modern gas, back in the day they had a 100 octane that would make that thing sing up to 1978 with a different carb, nowdays with the way its rigged up its making about 30 less HP and far less responsiveness.
as the cars of the 70's did produce their figures, its why nowadays the standard mod is switching out the camshafts and the lifters to produce the power they made back in the day on modern fuels.
plus modding the timing, basically switch the thing to racing fuel and tune the carbs and the jets for it, and it'll make 250 to 270 on that small block.
The car is half a century old, and 4.5 liters is tiny for a v8.
4.5L is actually pretty standard V8 size. Lamborghini started out making V12s with displacements of fewer than 4 liters, so I'd say the size of an engine is pretty subjective.
Our family car growing up was this model, 1966. Learned to drive on it, it was a solid but primitive car. You never felt special or comfortable on a long trip. It was cheap inside, the interior was paper thin (although not as shoddy as say a Fox Mustang) and you could hear the tires and transmission and everything working. No sound insulation in these cars, they were tin boxes. Took about 12 seconds 0-60 with a 318 , handled like a wheel barrow and the transmission had a manual downshift linkage so if you went 80 and you floored it, the car would downshift to second. It did have a nice looking steering wheel and dash and some cool chrome switches. By the time I drove it, it was the early 1980's and it was a poor person's family car with rust holes.We were poor and we felt Tom Joad poor when we were riding in our 1966 Belvedere, although it never let us down. It was the car for a family that could never go on vacation. Eventually my dad just sold it to get a slightly nicer car around 1984. I still love to see these cars, but they take me back to a bad, sad time.
Best ending to an RCR so far, I like the optimism
Watching this made me think I should have been born in a different generation. There were no insane #metoo movements back in the mid 60's. I just want to be the typical family Guy that RCR talks about. Can't believe how difficult that is to achieve in 2018 with all the polarized millenials around.
fact:homer simpson drove this car
His was a 73, right?
Austin Lucas but in one of the episodes, didn’t it say his car was made in Lithuania?
Mr. Regular, the only man who hits you with straight wisdom in a car review
jersey state cars this time used fury 1 ,they fell apart ,then up graded to fury 3 for the fix.the were good cop cars.
Loved the DC Denton reference.
Just a question about classic cars in America compared to other countries, how little does someone in America have to pay for a decent running car over 40 years old?
Asking from Australia for reference :D
I'd say about 2,000 USD and up. If you want to check yourself go to Craigslist and search for autos in the US under that time period. www.craigslist.org/about/sites#US
angedgangsta it depends how desirable and what year the car is for the most part you can get a mid 70s v8 car for around $2000 the older you go the more expensive they get.
You can find Falcons, Beetles, Kombis, Corvairs, 510s, and Novas for the price of a used Civic.
i paid $800 for my 1970 dodge dart swinger. it needed some parts however.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 slant 6 or LA block?
"... modern police cars are more augmented than JC Denton ..." - I love this guy.
For some reason I always really enjoy the reviews with snow on the ground
Those supposed good times were the greatest economic times in American history afaik. To be frank, I'd give all this tech up to be able to get a job.
bryson9s And as well to be able to make a decent wage without 68745 years of pointless schooling and struggle
"the greatest economic times in American history"...for white America.
For all of America. Do you seriously think non-whites weren't allowed to make money then?
But of course, in 2018, everything has to be about MUH RAYCE.
RadialSkid
Also america was around 90% white at the time
Non white communities arent any better off trying to find jobs there days thats for sure. Nobody is
a v6 mid size today..well, ok a v6 full size today to be as big as this car..close to $30k. this belvedere's $3k adjusted to inflation is about $18k in today's 'money'. and..not only get a decent job easier then, but not have to burn many thousands & several yrs on college to do it. if you needed further ed for a job, they sent you/paid that. having a baby cost $200 in 66! i know bc that was my birth year! no healthcare crisis then, lol.
So, you state rather firmly that what was, was an archaic set of family values and norms that held on too long.
Can you articulate whether you feel as firmly that what has replaced those values is more beneficial to or capable of sustaining the majority of people/families?
yeah! we want social decay! unrest! suicides! child molesters..muahahahaa! it is silly to think that the old family unit that built america is somehow worse than the free fall collapse of such that is destroying it..piece by piece.
@InfiniteMushroom Bizzarro world. Up is down. Fwd is backwards. Newspeak. PC convo only, or go to jail, after ostracizing & culling from the directionless pack. Or..direction: Down slope.
Here here! There's an attitude firmly embedded in the criticism of the values this car embodies that takes a view of history that is at odds with the facts.
Those "protestors" were just like modern antifa, thugs. And by protesting the "Facist" Lyndon Johnson, the man who rammed the civil rights act through Congress, the man who, history has shown, was actively TRYING to end the war in Vietnam, they threw the election to... Richard Nixon, who would keep the war going for another 5 years...
It was the same generation as those protesters (boomers) who would undo their parent's efforts to racially integrate American society, and raise fatherless children with a host of mental problems. So yeah, in hindsight, the values of the 1960's Fathers look pretty damn good in comparison.
@@Cadallin Johnson started the war, and he never cared if we won or lost, as long as he and his buddies got rich on it. Nixon's biggest mistake was not pulling out on January 21, 1969.
@@davidlafleche1142 just wrong. Eisenhower got America into Vietnam. Johnson just admitted the existence of a war America was already in. Look up the records (now declassified) on American troops illegally deployed in Vietnam in the 50's.
I love your introspective endings about what the car symbolizes to the nation then and now. It's one of the reasons I come back every time (that and the dirty jokes).
My first car....65 Dodge Polara. Looks the same as this Plymouth. 383 V8 ... I got towed from every date. Mileage? I was getting 5-9 mpg.