The last time I was on the Isle Of Wight, they still had the "Standard stock" trains running. This would have been in about 1986. Never saw the "1938 stock" running there. I understand that the 1938 stock has now been replaced with 1978 ex LT underground stock. I loved the 'old world' look of the Standard stock with their arched front windows, interior light fittings and the outside roof shape at the ends.
I spent the summer of 1991 in England, living in Golders Green, and working at Theatre Royal Drury Lane. Early one Sunday morning, I found that wonderful 1938 "Starlight Express" train waiting at the platform, in regular service. It was glorious to have my regular journey turn into a trip back in time. The old colour scheme was so relaxing and comfortable, compared to the glaring fluorescent-lit interiors of the regular trains. This was in the days before smartphones, and I didn't have my camera with me; otherwise, I'd have taken many photos of the 1938's interior. It's a damning statement on the modern ideals of "simple and cheap" vs. the ideals of "beauty and function" of previous generations.
The “ballast” that normally goes under the formation comes from much closer to home than Sweden. If it’s grey, it has likely come out of Meldon Quarry in Devon or Cliffe Hall in Leicestershire and the red ballast mainly comes from Cloburn Quarry in Lanarkshire or Glensanda in Lochaber. There are also a few smaller granite quarries dotted around the UK. Ballast with sharp, angled edges will bind together and become relatively solid. Round ballast (such as the “Solent Gold” found on the IOW) will move around quite easily. You can experience this if you walk on a shingle beach, the ground moves under your feet. If you ever get to (safely, and with permission) walk on a railway, the ballast is unforgiving. Network Rail also recycle all the ballast removed from old worksites. It is cleaned, regraded (to remove smaller, broken pieces) and mixed with new before being sent to new worksites. Except where contaminants render it unusable, almost all material will find its way back onto the railway, or as mix or filler for other aggregate products. As an aside, Meldon Quarry was owned by British Rail and was the only reason they maintained the line from Coleford to Meldon. When BR was privatised, the quarry and much of that line was too, including the massive Meldon Viaduct which the new owners decided was too costly to maintain. The rest of the line was kept alive by the Dartmoor Railway who operated it as a heritage line on behalf of the owners. When the DR collapsed, the owners sold the line back to Network Rail who refurbished it and support a regular GWR commuter service from Okehampton to Exeter. Long term, many would like to see it reconnected to Tavistock and Plymouth.
OMG I had totally forgotten about the guard with the button panel, as a child in the mid 60s I was mesmerised by that button panel, wondering what all the buttons did and how clever the guard must have been to know! I used to travel the Northern line from Charing Cross to Tooting Broadway to visit my grandparents. The 38 stock were the first underground trains I ever rode.
So true about the noises. And the wooden slat floors and the hanging hold on things. The train of my childhood. Although I remember going on the previous stock the IOW had as a child in the 70s. They had a very particular smell too
I'm writing this at the beginning of Feb 2023, and HLH has currently been on holiday between seasons since Christmas 22, so I'm keeping myself going by looking at old episodes released before I "discovered" the channel (which I think was early in series 3). It's great watching this episode because it introduces a lot of things that got revisited, or re-mentioned, in the later episodes on the Island Line (in series 4) which I'd already watched before seeing this one. Well done team, as always!
I'm British-born but my family moved to the States when I was very young. We used to get back to visit family every couple of years when I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s, and I remember riding the 1938 stock on the Underground on those trips. As a little kid, I didn't know what made it special, but I remember the red tube trains were always my favourites. I went back to live in London for a couple of years in the mid-1990s and made a few trips to the Isle of Wight during that time. The first time I rode the Island Line, I also took a ride on the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. The steam engine that pulled my train that day was a Hunslet "Austerity" tank engine of World War II vintage. The irony was not lost on me that the preserved steam engine I was riding behind was actually younger than the Network Southeast train that got me there. Great memories there, I really enjoyed the episode!
My other lasting memory of riding the 1938 stock on the Isle of Wight back in the mid-1990s was spending a weekend in Sandown with my girlfriend at the time. I remember on the way home, buying our tickets to take the Island Line back to its northern terminus to catch the ferry back to the mainland. I was pretty excited about taking another trip on this iconic piece of London Undeground history, and as I handed my girlfriend her ticket, I thought she might be impressed, or grateful or... something, but she was not fussed at all. Can you believe that? She's got a ticket to Ryde, and she don't care! (sorry, couldn't resist)
Fascinating to hear the viewer's recollection of the Kingsway tram at the end of this video, especially of the tram conductor blowing a whistle to notify the driver that all passengers have boarded and alighted. I live in Toronto, and when I first moved here in 1988, the subway door guards still used a whistle to notify passengers that s/he was about to close the doors. This was unique among Canadian, and I believe US metro systems I believe. Now the provenance of using whistles is clear!
This is going to be a great one, I love the Isle of Wight and the old tube trains. Now they've got the newer tube trains on the way in service for next year.
Great episode. Lovely to see Alex out and about enjoying the 38 stock. Thanks to Chris, Siddy and Laura for another team effort and keeping us entertained.
I like the cut-away at 29:27, showing the contrast between the original-style interior decor and moquette in the museum train, and the heavily-modified version, including the ex-"A"Stock moquette, of the Island Line examples!!
I've been on them loads of times on holidays and days out in the past. I hope to go on them before they finally come out of service. They are great old trains but sadly they can't last forever!
All the 1938 Stock that went to the island was painted into Network South East livery, but all were eventually painted back into LT red as seen here, after NSE was dissolved, however, does anyone remember the interim livery with pictures of dinosaurs on the sides? All the serviceable units bar one, (which went straight back into LT red), carried this livery. The destination blinds also carried names like "RAPTOR," and "TERRY," (for Pterodactyl !!)
I do. And may I be honest? I didn’t like it. But I think it was a sponsorship deal with a tourist attraction in the island so I guess some forgiveness is due. The NSE livery looked stunning. I liked it on every train it was applied to anywhere. My anorak zip is feeling very well-used today!
@@alexgrundon2346 Yes, I thought it was a bit garish and OTT too!! Hardly "dignifying" for these "aging beasts" to be shuttling up and down the line looking like that!! Many often thought of them as the "dinosaurs" of the fleets anyway, there was no need for them to rub it in !!!!!! I've often thought an allover green version (like the London country area buses) would have suited them for the island, that would have matched the "Southern" green based livery that the stations have been painted back into now, complete with retro "totem" signs. I remember one or two of the red trains carrying full gold "London Transport" logos at one point (they were probably told to remove those!!). Another nice touch was the acquisition of some genuine LT roundel "No Smoking" signs for the windows, which are still there today.
Since my family have a house at Lake, I've ridden the Class 483s quite a bit - Looking forward to giving the new Class 484s a try, and also visiting the preserved 483s at their new homes on the Island and at the EOR on the mainland!
Thanks guys and girls for another great episode. Living on the south coast at Rustington we have often visited the IoW and know the line well. As regards the new stock, which Robert asked about below, the body shell is aluminium but the interiors are being totally stripped out and new ones fitted. The line will be close for 3 months until March next year for a total upgrade - ironing out all the bumps. So hopefully it will be a totally new experience riding the line.
Great episode, brought back happy memories of a 2011 holiday in Shanklin with the 1938 stock taking us from the ferry at Ryde Pier to our base for the week. A happy return to the island for the first time since the mid 1980s, when the 1920s stock was still running! The fact both served the IoW after long service in London speaks volumes for how well built these trains were..
Absolute workhorses but beautifully stylish too. I love them. Epping Ongar Railway will inherit one to run on battery power in months to come, which is super exciting.
Awesome guys, thanks Alex, Siddy, Laura and Chris for all you put into these episodes. Love the '38's - and so pleased you picked up on the sound aspect! I was lucky enough to have a ride in the rear cab of one of these many years ago - the permanent way on the Island certainly makes for some lively riding! Was hoping to get back before they depart, but I think Covid has seen that idea off :-(. Thanks again team Hidden London.
Omg - first of the hangouts I’ve seen but amazing thank you.... I’ve been to the Island many times as a kid when the Standard Stock was running but not the 38 stock ... hope to take my kids when we are allowed. I’m a big train fan and HIdden London fan - been to loads .::: can’t wait till we can do it again :)
Welcome Ian and thanks so much for the kind words. Join our live chat Saturday’s at 6pm to get even more out of the Hangouts. We’re so glad people are lapping these up. So much more to share with you all the coming weeks!
I remember seeing the Standard Stock arriving at Fratton freight yard in the summer of 65? on the way to the IOW. They were then loaded on to low loaders and transferred by the old IOW car ferry, which left from the old ferry port at the end of Broad St in Old Portsmouth.
We will be getting former District line trains next year on the Borderlands line between Wrexham and Bidston on Merseyside. Come up here and as well as trying out the D-class (now class 230) you can visit the preserved tramway running on the streets of Birkenhead. 20 years ago you could also have travelled on the many ex-London Leyland Titan TN15s and MCW Metrobuses operating in Liverpool for GTL and latterly Stagecoach.
I loved these on the Northern Line. When I was young I found these nice but changing to the Victoria Line had the the newer Sliver Trains that scared me ...... less.
Great fun! This brought back memories of riding these classy trains in London. Amazing to think now, that they included carriages for smokers! Did I hear you say some are headed to a preserved railway? Thanks to you all,
You seem to have your wires crossed with the 38 stock.... they were of steel construction not aluminium! The R49 stock was the first constructed that way and the 56/59/62 stock was the first complete fleet to be built from it.....
Oh siddy I can 100 per cent assure you you'd have never have slept on 38 stock on the island line. It was incredibly bumpy, unbelievably bumpy, bone shaking bumpy. .
Great episode! But I don't think anyone can sleep on the island line, it's just way too bumpy, the springs of the suspension and the seats add up like a trampoline ;-) If you want to maximize the old/new contrast take the hovercraft! You loose the pier section though, unless you walk it. Btw., IIRC, when they refurbished that tunnel in Ryde, they had to lower the tracks a bit so the carriages wouldn't hit the tunnel ceiling.
Sorry didn't get to see it live, but please can I ask 'is the old District Line stock that is going to the IOW made of aluminium, or will it degrade quicker than the old 38 stock?'
Loved this episode I’m heading over to the isle of wright in September to ride the old D stock district line trains which have been refurbished and also I’m walking all the abandoned railway lines and doing my own documentary on them I’ve been planning and researching all info and facts and have all routes planned done this all through lockdown just can’t wait to go and do it now
There still is, but their 1938 Stock has been replaced by the 1959 Stock unit which was running on the Northern Line in a "heritage " livery. A friend of mine was one of the team who got the "59 Stick transported over there.
I would so like to see them live but now there ist the pandemic and I can't see them :( because I live in Austria and they are do to replaced by the class 484 :((( 2020 is shit
Erm... '38TS is steel, not Aluminium. That's how come 483008 has substantial rust and corrosion on the bodysides... And 483004's roof is horrendously rusty.
It's a tale as old as time. London and the Southeast get brand new trains, they run them until they get too old, clapped out, and don't comply with modern safety regulations. They then get sent out to "retire" on lines in the North, Midlands, Wales, and the West Country while London and the Southeast get more new trains. We never get new trains here, they are always old, noisy, rattly, bouncy, and cramped.
Also did you know that some London Underground stock is or was Registered on TOPS for Working to Wimbledon and Richmond I think they were under the TOPS System as Class 499 they never carried that distinction I think it was just so BR/NR Knew what was on the system at a certain time BR/NR Still use TOPS for Vehicles but something Known as TRUST (Trains Running Under System TOPS) that's the system that knows exactly where every train running in the country is! (Sorry I'm a BR/NR Geek) lol
This ìs Bryn from Eastbourne tò say that when in the tunnel that held the buses if you ĺisen to þ þhè ĺast Tram you can heàŕ spìkè milligan that làst tram iñ london.
Loved this episode I’m heading over to the isle of wright in September to ride the old D stock district line trains which have been refurbished and also I’m walking all the abandoned railway lines and doing my own documentary on them I’ve been planning and researching all info and facts and have all routes planned done this all through lockdown just can’t wait to go and do it now
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The last time I was on the Isle Of Wight, they still had the "Standard stock" trains running. This would have been in about 1986. Never saw the "1938 stock" running there.
I understand that the 1938 stock has now been replaced with 1978 ex LT underground stock.
I loved the 'old world' look of the Standard stock with their arched front windows, interior light fittings and the outside roof shape at the ends.
I spent the summer of 1991 in England, living in Golders Green, and working at Theatre Royal Drury Lane.
Early one Sunday morning, I found that wonderful 1938 "Starlight Express" train waiting at the platform, in regular service.
It was glorious to have my regular journey turn into a trip back in time. The old colour scheme was so relaxing and comfortable, compared to the glaring fluorescent-lit interiors of the regular trains. This was in the days before smartphones, and I didn't have my camera with me; otherwise, I'd have taken many photos of the 1938's interior.
It's a damning statement on the modern ideals of "simple and cheap" vs. the ideals of "beauty and function" of previous generations.
The “ballast” that normally goes under the formation comes from much closer to home than Sweden. If it’s grey, it has likely come out of Meldon Quarry in Devon or Cliffe Hall in Leicestershire and the red ballast mainly comes from Cloburn Quarry in Lanarkshire or Glensanda in Lochaber. There are also a few smaller granite quarries dotted around the UK. Ballast with sharp, angled edges will bind together and become relatively solid. Round ballast (such as the “Solent Gold” found on the IOW) will move around quite easily. You can experience this if you walk on a shingle beach, the ground moves under your feet. If you ever get to (safely, and with permission) walk on a railway, the ballast is unforgiving.
Network Rail also recycle all the ballast removed from old worksites. It is cleaned, regraded (to remove smaller, broken pieces) and mixed with new before being sent to new worksites. Except where contaminants render it unusable, almost all material will find its way back onto the railway, or as mix or filler for other aggregate products.
As an aside, Meldon Quarry was owned by British Rail and was the only reason they maintained the line from Coleford to Meldon. When BR was privatised, the quarry and much of that line was too, including the massive Meldon Viaduct which the new owners decided was too costly to maintain. The rest of the line was kept alive by the Dartmoor Railway who operated it as a heritage line on behalf of the owners. When the DR collapsed, the owners sold the line back to Network Rail who refurbished it and support a regular GWR commuter service from Okehampton to Exeter. Long term, many would like to see it reconnected to Tavistock and Plymouth.
OMG I had totally forgotten about the guard with the button panel, as a child in the mid 60s I was mesmerised by that button panel, wondering what all the buttons did and how clever the guard must have been to know! I used to travel the Northern line from Charing Cross to Tooting Broadway to visit my grandparents. The 38 stock were the first underground trains I ever rode.
So true about the noises. And the wooden slat floors and the hanging hold on things. The train of my childhood. Although I remember going on the previous stock the IOW had as a child in the 70s. They had a very particular smell too
1938 stock tube trains are the triumph stags of trains. They’re classics.
I'm writing this at the beginning of Feb 2023, and HLH has currently been on holiday between seasons since Christmas 22, so I'm keeping myself going by looking at old episodes released before I "discovered" the channel (which I think was early in series 3). It's great watching this episode because it introduces a lot of things that got revisited, or re-mentioned, in the later episodes on the Island Line (in series 4) which I'd already watched before seeing this one. Well done team, as always!
I'm British-born but my family moved to the States when I was very young. We used to get back to visit family every couple of years when I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s, and I remember riding the 1938 stock on the Underground on those trips. As a little kid, I didn't know what made it special, but I remember the red tube trains were always my favourites. I went back to live in London for a couple of years in the mid-1990s and made a few trips to the Isle of Wight during that time. The first time I rode the Island Line, I also took a ride on the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. The steam engine that pulled my train that day was a Hunslet "Austerity" tank engine of World War II vintage. The irony was not lost on me that the preserved steam engine I was riding behind was actually younger than the Network Southeast train that got me there. Great memories there, I really enjoyed the episode!
Bless you!
My other lasting memory of riding the 1938 stock on the Isle of Wight back in the mid-1990s was spending a weekend in Sandown with my girlfriend at the time. I remember on the way home, buying our tickets to take the Island Line back to its northern terminus to catch the ferry back to the mainland. I was pretty excited about taking another trip on this iconic piece of London Undeground history, and as I handed my girlfriend her ticket, I thought she might be impressed, or grateful or... something, but she was not fussed at all. Can you believe that?
She's got a ticket to Ryde, and she don't care!
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Fascinating to hear the viewer's recollection of the Kingsway tram at the end of this video, especially of the tram conductor blowing a whistle to notify the driver that all passengers have boarded and alighted. I live in Toronto, and when I first moved here in 1988, the subway door guards still used a whistle to notify passengers that s/he was about to close the doors. This was unique among Canadian, and I believe US metro systems I believe. Now the provenance of using whistles is clear!
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Great on-location presentation Alex
This is going to be a great one, I love the Isle of Wight and the old tube trains. Now they've got the newer tube trains on the way in service for next year.
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Great episode. Lovely to see Alex out and about enjoying the 38 stock. Thanks to Chris, Siddy and Laura for another team effort and keeping us entertained.
Bless you! Bit of a labour of love
I like the cut-away at 29:27, showing the contrast between the original-style interior decor and moquette in the museum train, and the heavily-modified version, including the ex-"A"Stock moquette, of the Island Line examples!!
Tom will be pleased you like his package-making. He did a great job with it
Looking forward to this one, I absolutely adore the 1938 stock on the Island Line.
I've been on them loads of times on holidays and days out in the past. I hope to go on them before they finally come out of service. They are great old trains but sadly they can't last forever!
All the 1938 Stock that went to the island was painted into Network South East livery, but all were eventually painted back into LT red as seen here, after NSE was dissolved, however, does anyone remember the interim livery with pictures of dinosaurs on the sides? All the serviceable units bar one, (which went straight back into LT red), carried this livery. The destination blinds also carried names like "RAPTOR," and "TERRY," (for Pterodactyl !!)
I do. And may I be honest? I didn’t like it. But I think it was a sponsorship deal with a tourist attraction in the island so I guess some forgiveness is due. The NSE livery looked stunning. I liked it on every train it was applied to anywhere. My anorak zip is feeling very well-used today!
@@alexgrundon2346 Yes, I thought it was a bit garish and OTT too!! Hardly "dignifying" for these "aging beasts" to be shuttling up and down the line looking like that!! Many often thought of them as the "dinosaurs" of the fleets anyway, there was no need for them to rub it in !!!!!!
I've often thought an allover green version (like the London country area buses) would have suited them for the island, that would have matched the "Southern" green based livery that the stations have been painted back into now, complete with retro "totem" signs. I remember one or two of the red trains carrying full gold "London Transport" logos at one point (they were probably told to remove those!!). Another nice touch was the acquisition of some genuine LT roundel "No Smoking" signs for the windows, which are still there today.
I'm HOPING to get to see this 'live', if not will play later tonight - will miss our lovely banter! xx
Since my family have a house at Lake, I've ridden the Class 483s quite a bit - Looking forward to giving the new Class 484s a try, and also visiting the preserved 483s at their new homes on the Island and at the EOR on the mainland!
Thanks guys and girls for another great episode. Living on the south coast at Rustington we have often visited the IoW and know the line well. As regards the new stock, which Robert asked about below, the body shell is aluminium but the interiors are being totally stripped out and new ones fitted. The line will be close for 3 months until March next year for a total upgrade - ironing out all the bumps. So hopefully it will be a totally new experience riding the line.
I’ll miss the bumps!
Great episode, brought back happy memories of a 2011 holiday in Shanklin with the 1938 stock taking us from the ferry at Ryde Pier to our base for the week. A happy return to the island for the first time since the mid 1980s, when the 1920s stock was still running! The fact both served the IoW after long service in London speaks volumes for how well built these trains were..
Absolute workhorses but beautifully stylish too. I love them. Epping Ongar Railway will inherit one to run on battery power in months to come, which is super exciting.
Awesome guys, thanks Alex, Siddy, Laura and Chris for all you put into these episodes. Love the '38's - and so pleased you picked up on the sound aspect! I was lucky enough to have a ride in the rear cab of one of these many years ago - the permanent way on the Island certainly makes for some lively riding! Was hoping to get back before they depart, but I think Covid has seen that idea off :-(. Thanks again team Hidden London.
We love you Kenton! So glad you’re enjoying them. Making them is probably keeping us sane! Stick with us and we’ll see off Covid together!
@@alexgrundon2346 Love you guys too... Thanks Alex, let's kick Covid into touch!
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Omg - first of the hangouts I’ve seen but amazing thank you.... I’ve been to the Island many times as a kid when the Standard Stock was running but not the 38 stock ... hope to take my kids when we are allowed.
I’m a big train fan and HIdden London fan - been to loads .::: can’t wait till we can do it again :)
Welcome Ian and thanks so much for the kind words. Join our live chat Saturday’s at 6pm to get even more out of the Hangouts. We’re so glad people are lapping these up. So much more to share with you all the coming weeks!
A number of people are hoping to make the trip in Dec.
Excellent episode! Glad to see that Chris is better
Bless you!
Excellent episode as always! 😊
I remember seeing the Standard Stock arriving at Fratton freight yard in the summer of 65? on the way to the IOW. They were then loaded on to low loaders and transferred by the old IOW car ferry, which left from the old ferry port at the end of Broad St in Old Portsmouth.
We will be getting former District line trains next year on the Borderlands line between Wrexham and Bidston on Merseyside. Come up here and as well as trying out the D-class (now class 230) you can visit the preserved tramway running on the streets of Birkenhead. 20 years ago you could also have travelled on the many ex-London Leyland Titan TN15s and MCW Metrobuses operating in Liverpool for GTL and latterly Stagecoach.
LOVE it guys! Awesome vid! :-)
I loved these on the Northern Line. When I was young I found these nice but changing to the Victoria Line had the the newer Sliver Trains that scared me ...... less.
Last time I was on the Island was sometime in the 1970’s, think I rode Standard Stock.
Great fun! This brought back memories of riding these classy trains in London. Amazing to think now, that they included carriages for smokers! Did I hear you say some are headed to a preserved railway? Thanks to you all,
Great episode, love the quirkiness.
ROAD TRIP you say.....
Up for it? Let’s do it. Last to the bar in Ventnor gets the round. So glad you’re still part of the gang, Dazzle!
The pre 38 stock were known as Vec and Tis units. Vectis being the Roman for the Isle of Wight.
Any photos of Aldwych tram station Chris? Was this station above Aldwych Tube station?
You seem to have your wires crossed with the 38 stock.... they were of steel construction not aluminium! The R49 stock was the first constructed that way and the 56/59/62 stock was the first complete fleet to be built from it.....
Oh siddy I can 100 per cent assure you you'd have never have slept on 38 stock on the island line. It was incredibly bumpy, unbelievably bumpy, bone shaking bumpy. .
Great episode!
But I don't think anyone can sleep on the island line, it's just way too bumpy, the springs of the suspension and the seats add up like a trampoline ;-)
If you want to maximize the old/new contrast take the hovercraft! You loose the pier section though, unless you walk it.
Btw., IIRC, when they refurbished that tunnel in Ryde, they had to lower the tracks a bit so the carriages wouldn't hit the tunnel ceiling.
Sorry didn't get to see it live, but please can I ask 'is the old District Line stock that is going to the IOW made of aluminium, or will it degrade quicker than the old 38 stock?'
Aluminium.
Loved this episode I’m heading over to the isle of wright in September to ride the old D stock district line trains which have been refurbished and also I’m walking all the abandoned railway lines and doing my own documentary on them I’ve been planning and researching all info and facts and have all routes planned done this all through lockdown just can’t wait to go and do it now
Siddy Holloway get yourself over to the isle of Wight I promise you will call in love with the place.😀
Farewell Class 483 (1938 Stock) used on the Island Line. 1938-2021.
Wasnt there a similar line using 38 Stock on Alderney?
There still is, but their 1938 Stock has been replaced by the 1959 Stock unit which was running on the Northern Line in a "heritage " livery. A friend of mine was one of the team who got the "59 Stick transported over there.
TrainSimWorld 2 hasnt got the bounce,its very smooth
I would so like to see them live but now there ist the pandemic and I can't see them :( because I live in Austria and they are do to replaced by the class 484 :((( 2020 is shit
Keep the faith. Happier and safer times to come!
@@alexgrundon2346 hopefully
Erm... '38TS is steel, not Aluminium. That's how come 483008 has substantial rust and corrosion on the bodysides... And 483004's roof is horrendously rusty.
It's a tale as old as time. London and the Southeast get brand new trains, they run them until they get too old, clapped out, and don't comply with modern safety regulations. They then get sent out to "retire" on lines in the North, Midlands, Wales, and the West Country while London and the Southeast get more new trains.
We never get new trains here, they are always old, noisy, rattly, bouncy, and cramped.
Also did you know that some London Underground stock is or was Registered on TOPS for Working to Wimbledon and Richmond I think they were under the TOPS System as Class 499 they never carried that distinction I think it was just so BR/NR Knew what was on the system at a certain time BR/NR Still use TOPS for Vehicles but something Known as TRUST (Trains Running Under System TOPS) that's the system that knows exactly where every train running in the country is! (Sorry I'm a BR/NR Geek) lol
This ìs Bryn from Eastbourne tò say that when in the tunnel that held the buses if you ĺisen to þ þhè ĺast Tram you can heàŕ spìkè milligan that làst tram iñ london.
😴😴😴😴
No new viewer record set this week. Hey-ho, was brilliant episode, anyway. Looking forward to whatever comes next. Thanks, everyone! :)
Posters and art on the tube next week! It’s going to be fabulous. Then we’ll go mucking around in dirty tunnels again before Xmas!
Loved this episode I’m heading over to the isle of wright in September to ride the old D stock district line trains which have been refurbished and also I’m walking all the abandoned railway lines and doing my own documentary on them I’ve been planning and researching all info and facts and have all routes planned done this all through lockdown just can’t wait to go and do it now