The Best Trends in Modern Cars and Trucks
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- We review the best trends of 2018 and 2019 in the automotive world. After detailing the worst trends in new cars we go for the positive spin. This video lists the top 10 items, and the community can name their own in the comments. There was drama with the previous list but with over 12,000 comments viewers were passionate. This fun exercise should help car companies improve their features for no cost. Hopefully, we can get better products long term proving what people love about cars!
Some of the content is satire, comedic however much of the discussion is about the serious state of modern problems in cars.
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I better see rewinding satellite radios and extending visors in this video
Hello mother Russia.
Yuri Tereshyn it’s coming in the second video
do people actually use satellite radio? Why pay for radio when FM is free
Stop it Yuri!
Can put the visors in yet, I got into the 2018 altima rental the other day and the visor sucked!!! I almost broke it trying to do the visor test!
Awkward standing abounds.
The "Male Urinal Distance" taken literally
He has a wide stance.
Autistic stances
Thank you for commenting what i was thinking
The "What do I do with my hands" stance
Modern headlights shining in your eyes like the light at the end of a tunnel, blinding you for 3 to 5 days, just lovely
its insane
Well they have ones now that will point away from your vehicle which is cool
the dude on the right always has a face like you just landed on hist most expensive property in monopoly
Tom K lol
It's his eyebrows isn't it?
Lmao
and shit on it...
it fits to the fact that most modern cars are either SUV's or shit
The best thing about the infotainment is that manufacturers are now realizing they are shit at building it. Throw android auto or Apple car play, boom. Everything you need.
Or better yet, they finally have started teaming up with existing navigation manufacturers like Garmin. That stuff just works and they make their entire business on doing that shit right.. I have no idea why it took car manufacturers so long to realize that their own attempts were just not cutting it. It doesn't make sense when a 300$ nav system outperforms the infotainment system in your Mercedes that costs 10x as much..
Unless you're a stubborn fuck like Toyota, who still think their 2003 spec infotainment systems are passable in 2018.
My 2013 car has an dash-integrated Garmin GPS system along with the other infotainment features and its working wonders.
@@Real_MisterSir what do you think build the inbuild navigation systems before? Already the same companies like blaupunkt, garmin, becker...
android auto & apple carplay are the most overrated products ever.
Paint. The paint on cars now is so much better. Finishes look good even on inexpensive vehicles.
Or like my 06 grand marquis. Paint never technically bonded to the metal cause ford fucked up the metallurgy and so now u can peel the paint off a number of panther platforms from the early-mid 00's like a damn vinyl wrap
*The best car trend is Automatic Windows*
_Bob McCoy yea
I must be old, because my one favourite is *heated seats* .
How is that a trend?
My favorite trend is; Improved ABS
Auto windows? That's not a new car trend. Cars had it 20 years ago.
Some pieces of shit still don't have it. But it's nothing new in CARS .
Best Trends List
1. Performance - 1:03
2. Manufacturing - 1:53
3. Tires - 3:08
4. Safety - 4:13
5. Ergonomics - 5:25
6. Fuel Economy and Emissions - 6:38
7. Technology - 7:44
8. Over The Air Updates - 9:16
9. Electronic Tuning - 10:13
"o wow thank you sire"
"the hero we deserve but not the one we need"
Much appreciated
300 horsepower, 30+ mpg in a 35k car that weighs 3500 pounds? There's a lot to be happy about. Thanks for doing this video, even though you were obviously biting your tongue through a lot of it.
40+ if you go for 300 HP diesel v6
Diesels belong in trucks and farm equipment and I'm glad they're going to be killed off in the near future. Governments are slowly but surely starting to ban them from big cities due to emissions. Maybe not in the US but Trump won't rule forever. They used to be popular in Europe due to fuel price differences but nowadays it costs the same to run petrol. Buying a new diesel car for retail price in 2018 is pure insanity.
@@frankthetankricard You mean governments are becoming more tyrannical. Diesel works great in many vehicles and nothing gets better
fuel economy.
@Eltayeb Abdelrahman I was thinking the Accord with the 2.0 Turbo but it doesn't make 300 horsepower. I must have conflated it with the Type R Civic.
Less I like about a 30k crossovers with mid 20s mpg and crappy I4s
This is the most advertiser-friendly SavageGoose video ever.
1:45 disagrees with you there.
Well. They have to make money. Lol
Are they father and son? There is certainly a generational gap between the two.
nope:
ass massage abound
It's Geeses, as in plural. God get it right
As a PC enthusiast and robot developer, I actually don't like how much tech has been added, because most of it is just gimmicky stuff that yields very little improvement, but increases the price (both total vehicle cost and maintenance costs), complexity, and failure rates. In fact for some cars, the electronic replacements are distinctly worse. Take seat controls for example. Those motors are so slow and heavy, and it costs extra to have them. Having a few spring-loaded levers are so much faster, easier, cheaper, and light-weight. However, I do see the benefit of electric controls when you have "seat profiles" for multiple drivers.
My 20 year old car would need 11 different levers and dials to replicate what it does with it's little electronic panel. On the more adjustable seats, it would get kinda silly.
@@daer2121
For cars that allow you to adjust finer and frankly, less important things like tilt or lumbar support, then yeah, electronic switches are the only user-friendly way to go about it.
I design security robotics, and any engineer will tell you to keep it simple. That's why I drive a 2002 and 2003 Ford Taurus.
The only benefit I've seen to motors is when mine moves back when I park and open my door. Would be useful if I wasn't 6ft9" tall and the seat wasn't already as far back and low as it can go. For seat controls that are stupid, the heated seat control that roles under my leg when I get out and into my car, brilliant place to put it.
One of the stupidest thing is electronic door handles. like in the Tesla Model 3 and Corvette. it's just one more thing to break, and they have to have a manual release anyway, so it's not saving any weight. and new Mercedes fuel door is electronic. why?
best trend - FOLDING MIRRORS when the car is locked. I know that's not a big issue in the States, but we wouldn't be able to handle our cars in parking lots in Europe without it. All the space is so narrow here.
If you have experienced freezing raining, you motor will fight with ice, good luck
Make bigger spaces lol, jk I know why the spaces are so small and I couldn’t imagine parking my truck there
@@swllz We have freezing rain here a lot and I've never experienced the mirrors not being able to unfold which is a good thing because on one of our cars we can disable the folding mirrors but on the other we can't.
One more reason europe sucks. (doesn't even deserve a capitol letter)
I live in Europe (for a few more months before we dump you) your parking to close, if you end up with dents in your car it's because the tall person had no choice because you parked too close. Moron
"ergonomics" *slaps a huge ass screen onto the dashboard *
To be fair, putting that screen up high means it easier to use while driving.
@@pepstein Oh yeah, totally safe to do while driving, bravo
I agree. Physical controls are better suited to use while driving. But if you're going to put an iPad in a car, you should put it up high and close to the driver, like Tesla did in their Model 3.
@@syclone Safer then smaller screen and safer then small not well lit buttons and knobs. Big screen buttons are always better unless there is nothing to control on your dash. People will be always unsafe operating what they do have...better giant buttons on screen as longest it's not 5 menus to get to them
"Ergonomics 101" is now just an elective class at engineering schools and not a requirement !!
Better corrosion resistance especially on body panels. We are not driving rust buckets 5 years after purchase....Dodge/Chrysler owners, you know whereof I speak.
Omar Khan, you don’t need rust resistant body panels. Most of these money pits will be in the scrapyard in 5 to 8 years anyway.
Actually, you're 100% correct!
Why didn't they state that?
what
Ford... Yes my Fusion came from the rust belt, but I shouldn't have rust on the door seems after 6 fucking years. Only wrong with a otherwise perfect car. Gonna cost a pretty penny to get fixed correctly too.
To be honest it feels refreshing to see car people talk about the positives for once. You are generally pretty conservative when it comes to cars. You know, keeping it basic etc. That is not me complaining about car people btw. I love cars myself. It is just something I noticed. I do understand that modern cars sometimes go too far and add too much complexity, but I also think that they are improving things.
The thing that often bothers me about car people, on this site at least, is that they're always complaining about modern cars. You'll always see people completely trash modern cars and not even acknowledge the positive aspects of modern cars.
@@person.w9780 It's the result of a narrow-minded, somewhat elitist perspective on cars. Car enthusiasts care about cars, so obviously we want to be the know-it-alls about cars, right? It makes it hard to accept major shifts in the car world, as suddenly something beloved could become obsolete. Car enthusiasts also tend to focus on the performance and "feel" aspects of cars and disregard everything else, so their opinions tend exceptionally biased.
Sure, we love our manuals. We love our 90s icons. We love that raw, visceral feel. Some even enjoy legitimately dangerous cars for the thrill of it all. But just because we love it doesn't make it better. A true hard-to-swallow pill.
@@ogmechsftw Completely agree. I love cars as much as the next guy, but I feel like we should have a more open mind when it comes to advancments in car tech. It just annoys me sometimes when I see legitimately great modern cars bring constantly bashed and over like by a lot of car enthusiasts.
Maybe I'm too young to see where they're coming from (or the fact that I don't even have my G2 yet), but I find myself disagreeing with a lot of other car enthusiasts when it comes to modern cars.
@@person.w9780 Haha same. I like 90s sports cars, and big engines that sound great. I also like modern automatics. I even like hybrids and EVs. For someone who even appreciates these things let alone prefers them, there is absolutely no place in the car community. It's nothing but toxicity.
But this video is completely useless! You can say these things also 10 years ago! Or even 50 years ago!
Of course cars inside are better than before but there isn't nothing exceptional!
It's the natural technological progress that can't be stopped or put in reverse, cars will be better 10 years from now, it's not surprising.
A video about best trends should talk about things that aren't bounded to the progress that is entangled in our society.
If you talk about worst trends you're talkin' about fake noise, modern SUV being produced by every goddamn brand or bumpers that are flimsy, painted and fragile and this stuff isn't in the same level of the technological progress.
In the '70s you can say that a good trends are the muscle cars and the vanning universe for example, now all you got is "the magical inside"... it's not enough!
A good trend is something that goes beyond technological progress, it's something that's related to the feelings.
It is funny. I'm an IT guy, I've seen countles devices bricked by OTA updates (Apple, Android, Windows) Now we get to celebrate cars doing this too
Agreed. I was thinking we'd already have 50,000 pissed off Tesla owners by now. It's not a matter of if, but when.
Performance/handling and safety are the best trends over the last fifteen years....pretty much covered most of this list.
I still own a 2000 Civic that I bought new, eighteen years ago. I just bought a 2018 Civic. I can directly compare the two. The differences across the board are night and day.
I'm coming from an 2004 Accord to a 2018 Accord, so I feel you.
17 years ago there was a 400hp car nicknamed "The Terminator". it was under 35K new, weighed 3,600lbs and got 22mpg on the hwy , with a simple S/C swap to a KB it could put down over 600 hp to the wheels while driving like it was stock when not going full open throttle. It was the 2003 Mustang Cobra.
Corrosion resistance is a large pro for me, as I live in an area that has road salt. The body and chassis of my mustang is still doing great after 7 years of daily use. There still are some cars that rust easily--in my area, Jeep Compasses that are a few years old or older are an example--but the majority do much better than most cars from 30+ years ago.
I to live in an area with a good deal of salt in the I ter snd thr stuff that rusts the worst here is American trucks and SUVs particularly the older stuff from the late 90's through to the 2010's.
The improvements in audio systems is a huge one for me. I basically live for music. When the wife doesn't shut up, I get in my car and indulge in the 180GB of music on my hard drive that's connected to my audio system. And it sounds GREAT! No more having to figure in additional $2000 to you car purchasing budget in order to upgrade the sound system the moment you drive it of the lot. Great video guys!
One question kind stranger.... I own an Elantra 2018, not the limited version with the premium audio... I was thinking to add a subwoofer and an 4 channel amplifier for the speakers.... In your opinion that will be a good idea? Thanks in advance
Absolutely one of my favorite things. Just about every car has an acceptable audio system at least optional. Like the H/K audio systems (my S class has an incredible HK Logic 7 that makes me happy every time I use it), Burmester (absolutely unbelievable stock audio), even Bose audio systems are incredible in cars. Every car just about has an audio system with an optional subwoofer and has tweeters standard with decent amps. Cars 2 decades ago were basically four full range shitty woofers and that’s it. If you wanted better you had to upgrade aftermarket.
Audio system have advanced, but they can be hit or miss. Some (more premium) auto makers give you a choice of 2 or 3 systems, but others come in only one flavor.
I agree with your comment on tires but a bit surprised that you made no mention of winter tires. For those of us who live in snow and ice four to six months a year, the advances in these tires are literally life savers.
Yeah. I once saw a commercial where they had two identical cars except drivetrain. The 2wd had winter tires, and the 4wd had summer tires. The 2wd was better at everything
@@bisken6547 that's happened to me and my friend. We were going to waffle House in NC this past winter right after 4 inches of snow while I was in my 93 Nissan 300zx and he was in his new Jeep Wrangler with large off-road tires and everything. I have snow tires on my z from when I bought my oem wheels off a import from in the Japanese mountains. I can handle better than the Jeep even being a rwd, manual, with a high gearing. But I could be just a bit more prepared with experience drifting for when I slid out.
@@dekhunter148 that *would have* looked real badass
@@bisken6547 I think that was a video. But in snow, the tires are far more important that any AWD system, no matter how advanced.
I’m just glad that manuals are still out there
#savethemanuals
As long as Europe exists, manuals will exist.
@@Nimmo1492 I'm afraid not, Europe is seeing an increase in sales of cars that use an automatic transmission.
#308gti
@@wilmersandstrom2826 but most people choose the manual
I know a friend and her parents are from Bulgaria. They learned to drive stick and they are still driving stick
AMEN!!!! Totally agree!!!!!
Mr. Goose, I've been watching you since you've had less than 10k subs, and I would simply like to thank you for being you. Thats is all. Keep up the great work sir.
But government involvement sux
@@tigercap100 big government has forced companies to add safety equipment and increase gas mileage, but still too slow to compete with foreign brands designing cars for Japan and Europe. Many people would be sicker or dead if the Murican companies did not have to compete with Japanese, South Korean, and European companies, and were allowed to keep building overpriced shitboxes with no competition like 1950s Russia.
Crash safety is a big plus with modern cars
It the single biggest plus...by far. Everything else is irrelevant if you can't walk away from a crash. I've seen cars that were total losses, yet everybody got out safely. The car took the brunt of the damage. Not the passengers.
In addition to heated steering wheel, I need heated gear shifter and hand brake as well. ;-)
I'd personally say that navigation systems are one of the best improvements in terms of infotainment related technology. Finally manufacturers are ditching their own home-cooked systems in favor of partnerships with brands like Garmin, or just installing Apple car play (and similar android features) instead. Just let the people who make a living out of this handle the tech, instead of trying to do it half assed themselves. Other than that, screens in general subtract from the whole ergonomics point, to a degree where ergonomic usability was actually much higher in older cars, because all the frequently used features were always there when you needed them, and they could be operated without looking, and even with gloves on if weather is chilly. Now you gotta go through 3 menus on a screen, just to heat your seats.. That's the exact opposite of ergonomic.
I find Garmin's navigation systems are better than Google maps.
No one said 1 touch turn signal indicators, I hate thinking someone who left their turn signal on is about to do something only to see the opposite. Flick it leyt it flash and it turns off by itself instantly reducing road rage by 2%
Sounds like people who couldn't past there test and shouldn't be on the road.
No one knows what the hell a turn signal is anyways.
The only responses to your point were smart ass responses. I guess that suggests validity to your point.
Do you think BMWs will be equipped with turn signals soon. I saw a 2020 on the road the other day with no signals. Seems like a ripoff I know those are expensive cars.
Except the 1 touch turn signal system facilitates bad habits. The point of indicators was to communicate to other drivers that you are about to change lanes or make a turn and the indicator should be turned on before you make your move. Now, I see people increasingly change lane or make the turn and then - afterwards - reflexively turn their indicators. The point of letting other drivers ahead of time of your intended move is now lost and people absent-mindedly get used to it. This is a perfect example (not the only one) where technology fails to fix a human problem. It is more difficult to un-learn bad habits than learn good ones.
No telematics is a bad thing because of the security and privacy risks that comes with it and the fact the system probably will not receive security updates ten years down the road.
A better solution would be to simply display the error code on one of the displays.
Security and privacy of where you're driving? Wtf is someone gonna do to harm you either this info?
4:15 The reason they have to keep putting this safety stuff like automatic braking and lane keeping assist on cars is because of the distracted fools that like to drive and talk on thier cell phones. I see people with new model Mercedes, BMW's, and Volvo's to name a few driving and holding a phone up to thier ear. C'mon. If my sub 24k 2012 Ford Focus came with hands free blue tooth phone, I'm sure these expensive imports have them. I think they should teach people to be better drivers, not to be terrible drivers that depend on the car technology to help them drive. The danger is that people become TOO dependent on the technology.
Facts
I completely agree with you.
Some people rely on these types of technologies to save them.
You see TV ads that show a family that had their vehicle automatically stop behind the already stopped truck ahead.
What happened to keeping you eyes on the road and being an alert driver ?
There are many good drivers that do not rear end other vehicles and do not have this auto stop technology. Good driving skills are going away like using turn signals and even driving stick shift transmissions.
@@InCountry6970 Just a couple of hours ago I almost got side swiped. I was waiting at a light coming out of a shopping center. There were 2 lanes on my side of the entrance that curve to the left out of the parking lot and I was in the left lane. When the light turned green me and the SUV beside me in the right lane started to go around the curve, She was slightly ahead of me thankfully because all of a sudden her SUV swerved half way into my lane. Luckily she was ahead of me by a half of a car length and I was able to brake fast enough to keep her from slamming into the right side of my car. I looked and I could see her holding a smartphone in her left hand talking on it. Fkn idiot! Again, it looked like a newer larger model SUV, 30k easily. Had to have had hands free bluetooth. Are these people too lazy to link thier phone? Too dumb to know how? My Ford has the sync. As soon as I start my car, my phone automatically links to the system as long as the bluetooth (It is always on) is enabled on my phone. Someone calls, I can press the phone icon on my steering wheel and a microphone in the headliner picks up my voice and the callers voice comes through the cars stereo speakers. I don't have to touch my phone at all. I think it's time to invest in a dash cam. Too many distracted idiots on the roads today.
All this talk of how using connectivity could reduce the distraction - from what I've heard it's not the physical holding of the phone that distracts the driver, but that they are more focused on their conversation than on driving, so that's still a bad idea. Hang up and drive, dammit!
@@quillmaurer6563 Well physically holding a phone gives you one less hand to use a turn signal for starters. You are right somewhat that even if you have a hands free system you can be distracted. I don't live on my phone anyways like most people. If i get a call that I don't recognize I let voice mail take it. i figure if it's an important call, they'll leave a voicemail message, if they don't it's probably a telemarketer. But regardless, some people are more easily distracted than others. Ever been behind a car with 2 people in the front seat talking? And the driver, every time they talk to the passenger they turn thier head to talk to the passenger? I don't do that. If I'm talking to a passenger I keep my head forward eyes front, because I know the passenger will hear my voice without me turning my head towards them.
Very mixed bag. Like the electronic tuneability. Meaningless if the underlying mechanicals are crap, which they often are. No OTA update can fix mismatched dampers/springs for example.
And saying it is easier for mechanics is also very double sided, as now you have to be certified to specific brands in order to perform real maintenance on them, whereas in the old days you just looked at the engine parts and trouble shot the issues from there, mechanically - like a mechanic. Now every company has their own software, their own programs and this and that, and you can't just take your car to a random mechanic if you want to check something other than changing the tyres or see if a turbo is blown..
Daniel Kemnitz Yea, you need a computer science degree to work on cars today. And God bless whoever buys a car with 60 ECUs out of warranty
@@Real_MisterSir Every company has their own diagnostic software, sure, but at the end of the day, they all connect to a CAN bus, or FlexRay bus, or ethernet. All are publicly available standards. It just takes some smart people to decipher what the frames are saying, which frankly isn't that different from reverse engineering video games to make modifications.
Issue is, the car geeks of the past 20 years have a different tool set that's becoming obsolete.
There is something not much people think about: third world countries mechanics and dealers are a different beast. All those electronic tuning aspects are non existent for 75% of the world's car buyers so if most of your best trends revolve around telematics and fine tuning, that's bad news for a lot of people
A lot of the fancy headlights now cost thousands to replace and are nearly blinding. When it seems that everyone has their brights on at night, nobody can see any better than they did with headlights 20yrs ago. I would also like to point out that I've upgraded the headlight bulbs with inexpensive replacements from Napa in my '98 Silverado and, honestly, there isn't much of a difference when compared to my '16 Mustang. I really don't care for all the things you and Scott dislike, which is refreshing in a world where all you hear/see is "crossover, mpg, etc". Very unique channel you've created. Keep up the great videos.
Downside to safety and technology in general is cost of maintenance. We don't see it much now with a lot of the new tech hitting cars now, but I see in 10+ years when sensors, cameras, or electrical problems arise, costs will be high.
Also insurance rates have been spiking. Cost of repairs are higher to replace the various sensors and electronic devices damaged in a crash.
@@stevenroland7472
Not only that, the whole thing is artificially accelerated by the manufacturers doubling-down on planned obsolescence. And when you have "parts drought" in the future, its a recipe for disaster (or simply more landfill).
And this doesn't affect the 1% (or maybe 10%), who will throw the car in the bin like a used iPhone and buy a shiny new one. It will affect millions of workers in the industry, and billions of people around the world that will have to depend on these for utility. Basically, the majority is under-handedly getting shafted by the minority and there's no-one doing anything about it.
@@ekinteko We are moving to a Leasing model of car ownership. Cars are too expensive to buy and as they age the technology will be too expensive to repair. We will lease a car for 5 years then immediately flip into another another lease. You're never without a car payment. They are trying to follow the Smart Phone Model.
Like Some BMW and other brands, say seven years old with a faulty electronic auto box ,won't fix but we'll put in a new replacement box at About £5000 ,even specialists firms are scratching there heads ! Electronic decay.
I just got a one hour and forty minute ad, you must be getting some good ad revenue!
Was it a whole ass movie? And if so, what was the movie?
@@NatoriousGamePlay the lego movie, it was some interview type of thing with Chris Pratt and stuff
@@its__abraham you had me excited the first half of that sentence, not gonna lie. Interviews are boring. I did once have a movie as an ad. It was an animated movie, that's all I can remember, and yes, I did watch it
@@NatoriousGamePlay I would have watched it if I had wifi, I only saw one hour and fourth something minutes and I said nope and skipped it, got a screenshot to prove it tho
@@its__abraham nobody would have believed you. Shame you didn't have wifi. Hopefully next time you do, and it's an actual movie too
Another excellent video! I agree with all of your picks. I'm excited to see the future of the automotive industry. KEEP IT UP!
You’re so right about many of these things. But then I thought about that Ford Escape 1.5L Eco Boost you drove a few months ago. It’s amazing how the vast improvements really gel in some vehicles, while that model Escape fell flat.
The yelp at the end with no CSS😂
Wirelessly control your car. Which crucial controls are now connected to nothing. E-steering, E-Brakes, E-throttle my ass into a wall. Kind of like Michael Hastings.
If my Lexus ever hooks up with Skynet; I'm a dead man. lol
roy pass
Yeah I don’t like that it’s not mechanical. That means it could go wrong at any moment. Whereas with an actual physical tube controlling the steering, and axles and shit, I know for sure it will always turn when I need it to.
Except for throttle, steering and brakes are still mechanical but electrically assisted. Electric assisted power steering is a hell of a lot better than hydraulic.
But, fully electric systems are a terrible idea and I personally will never buy a car that has all-electric steering or brakes. I want a mechanical fallback *when* (not if) those motors fail.
roy pass I'm with you. Kowtow to the tech heads whose driving skill is defined by play station .. lets allow an ecu/program to determine whether we live, die or vegetate... top idea..for someone else but me..
@@Toastmaster_5000 Throttle by wire has been around for for years but I feel the first manufacture to do full braking or steering by wire will get sued into bankruptcy as you would be completely screwed if the car completely loses power which happens more often than most people think.
Just takes the battery cable shorting ,the ignition switch failing, the power relay if it's keyless,or the alternator shorting.
SG appreciate the variety of videos that you are putting out. Always look forward to the notification!
Now this is truly Award Winning, Best in Class Premium Video!
Modern seating ergonomics: I remember the vinyl bench seat in my 1978 Olds Cutlass Supreme. If you weren't wearing a seat belt you would slide across it to the other side of the car if you turned sharply.
NorthernChev I like old cars I don’t like modern stuff at all when it comes to cars,don’t even get me started on fake exhaust sound into the cabin via speakers lol
I am thankful for car manufactures nowadays making so many things to complain about.
Great video Mark. There are definitely a lot of pros. While enthusiasts focus on the cons a lot its good to bring these facts to light
Surprisingly mature clip and yet good information. I like many have tended to resist the changes in the modern vehicles. However I am still happy when I realize that I no longer have to adjust the points in my distributor or grease my suspension. Some of the changes are indeed for the better.
I'm glad you all mentioned AUDIO. It's funny how old Chevy cavaliers and old Nissans outperform say..Honda's audio systems that are used today. The accords premium audio sounds like trash. Why Chevy and other manufactures have been making damn good audio systems and Honda can't to this day?🤔🤔
Which old Nissan's had better sound systems than current Honda's? 🤔🤔
@@NOFATCHICK1 Altimas base stereo. Sentras. Maximas. Hell I think even the Versas lol😂
@@PLATINUM2U I've heard the Bose sound system & in last generations 2016 nissan Altima & 2013 Murano & they they we're not better than the Bose sound system in my 2014 Mazda 3. The Nissan Altima had better bass, but that was about it. I've listened to the ELS sound system in the Acura tsx & it was very good, sounding better than my Mazda 3. I would imagine Honda's premium sound system would be similar in sound.
@@NOFATCHICK1 nahh my 2016 V6 Accord sounded horrible. It actually so bad I rode in my old Altima just because music sounded so much better😂 I guess Honda wants ppl to upgrade to Acura to get a decent sound system
100% true! Even a base Dodge Neon I had sounded better than the current gen Civic.
I think the best era of the cars was 2005-2010, when the cars were still built to last a reasonable amount of time, they had decently tuned chassis and suspension setups, decent engines (petrol direct injection and turbo direct injection emerged in that era) and still had old bits that made them tasty such as servo-hydraulic steering, decent clutch feel and brake feel, and so on.
Victor Tarhon-Onu respectfully disagree. I recently upgraded from a 2009 Altima to a 2017 Maxima and it feels like an appropriate generational shift. Just like it felt like when upgraded from a 1998 Altima to a 2009 Altima 7 years ago.
yeah tell that to german cars worst german cars are 2000-2010 "look at Mercedesbenz and bmw judgmentally"
> turbo direct injection emerged
TDI emerged in the late 80s. Already by the late 90s most new utility cars were using those.
@@hamoodj792 yeah remember VW's from that decade. SMH.
@@Phantomwaxx I guess it depends on the perspective. From a driver stand-point things may be different. The newer the car the better from a technology and integration stand point it is. But this technology also disconnects you from the driving experience which kind of hurts if you like driving (even though some models became better driver's cars as well, but not too many).
Also the modern cars have weird annoying reliability issues (with very few exceptions) that the old ones didn't have with the same systems (not talking about the newer systems and gadgets added to them).
5:42 Excuse me, I love Iron Maiden
Great vid. I was surprised that you didn't mention choice. We have a bigger range of choices than just a few years ago. Sedans, crossovers, EVs, hybrids, unibody trucks, weird coupish suvs, fuel cell vehicles, and so on.
"You can see better" yeah great, until there is another modern car in the oncoming lane, and now you're blinded by their headlights and seeing spots.
Those lights behind and beside me while I drive to work in the dark.
New headlights are a major problem. Blinding each other is not good.
Leif Jensen Do you even drive?
@@zeallust8542 No, I completely made that up. I've never gone outside at night time either, so I have no idea what it's like to have stupidly bright headlights shining in my face. Of course I drive, dumbass.
Leif Jensen Do you not understand the difference between brights and dims?
It might sound lame but i absolutely love interior ambient lighting
bk138 ST Me too!
Now that said, on the lines of interior lighting, what I’m not fond of is the general automotive trend towards “cold white” dial, instrument, button, knob, switch, background, etc. lighting. It’s brash, too bright even when dimmed, lacks character, and I’m surprised car makers would be willing to sacrifice a form of brand identity like that. I like it for map lighting, however, as it adds contrast to paper-printed text.
@@jumboJetPilot i had 7 color LED ambient lighting in my ST and i loved everything about it
bk138 ST I like the ambient lighting too! But I would like to see them not use cold white lighting for the gauges, buttons, dials, knobs, etc.
God I hate bright headlights, literally blinding even 1/2 mile away... Ugh
Really? i haven't feel like ergonomics has a healthy positive trend. In fact I kinda hate some recent econobox seats. They gives me back pain.
Negative video: 2+ mil views and 14K+ comments.
Positive video: 250K views and ~1K comments.
That's the worst trend of 2019!
You forgot to mention that the best car trend is to buy a brand new car without having the money to fully pay it!
Man, you crack me up! Love it brother!
@6:18 Even bugs can feel the improvements on ergonomics :) Great video!
Not sure i like the wireless connectivity to a car. I dont think i could trust the security preventing car thiefs from hacking into it and just taking it without needing to damage it or bypass the security system.
You are right to. Keyless start has seen lots of expensive Range Rovers and BMW X5's stolen by thieves in the UK and they do it in less than a minute without drawing any attention at all.
@@gravemind6536 I mean, that really isnt much different from how fast and easy people can just rip the key'ed ignition out and get it running either. It just causes more damage to do so.
Nice, but my only real complaint is the removal of the CD player for old farts like me.
rod miranne
Although audio fidelity is lost with digital tracks, lets be honest...no car is ideal for audiophiles. I don’t miss losing valuable space storing my leather cd folio case carrying fifty CD’s in the glove compartment or inside the armrest. Now those areas are filled with microfiber cloths. Can never have too many microfiber cloths. 👍
@@txmoney Audio fidelity lost with digital? Do you know something I don't?
Digital is only a sampling of the actual sound, so there will always be some loss of fidelity - it's inherent in the way anything digital works. It's one reason that analog vinyl records and high-end amplifiers with vacuum tubes have made a comeback for audiophiles in recent years.
Deus Ex Machina
Yes, I do. 🙃
..and these judgemental remarks from car reviewers "who use CDs these days?!" well.. it depends if you want to focus on driving and just put correct CD with kids music or control Spotify while driving because kids want to hear that song one more time "no, not that one, the other one... other". or explain to the kid why he cannot listen to the next song while we are in the middle of nowhere. or why your mobile is now overheated because playing Spotify, google maps and laying on the sun on 36deg Celcius.
hello from Kuwait City Middle east, Love your videos almost all elements when you introduced to vehicles are solidly executed
Great content! Keep up the good work!
C6 corvette review Savage! Love your videos
14th. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving Mark! I can't wait to see your Vision board, I already know that ToDD's has a new Macbook Pro on it...
I woke up to this notification! @savagegeese lets talk about how more standard equipment across the board, we are starting to get auto windows for both driver and passenger window. This use to irritate me with my MANual transmission z. Suspension design has improved, cars feel and handle much better. Road noise and sound control has gotten a whole lot better. My wife loves adjustable seat belt because she is short and im a tower as she says.
Also, regarding tire improvements:
It’s worth adding that quite a few cars nowadays are sold without spare tires, and quite plausibly just don’t need them. Best I can recall, I haven’t had to perform an emergency roadside tire repair for ... probably 25-30 years, and I drive considerably more than average.
However, I have had a fair number of slow (initially!) leaks, so I find it valuable to keep a 12V tire pump in the car.
I also agree with your point regarding low-rolling-resistance economy tires: They definitely have much better traction and cornering than before.
About the part on factory audio systems. The base components are low quality and that largely stands with premium systems as well. Most improvements come from dsp and there's a limit to what you can achieve that way. I'm personally fine with this approach as an average consumer can tolerate this sound daily while I end up paying less for the system I'm going to replace immediately. The biggest drawback is the insane level of integration of different systems preventing the replacement of the head unit. Being stuck with a factory radio that lets me do virtually zero customization is a pain in the ass. Try replacing it and you lose climate control, navigation, door and seat belt chimes, and basically any kind of setup options you had to your car. If factory source units suddenly came with digital outputs that don't alter the signal I'd feel like we stepped into 2005.
The simplest workaround is to replace the speakers with top-quality ones, set the head output as flat as you can, and then use an external unit for all your audio processing. I use an old S5, with ViPER, and it has worked out beautifully so far.
Audio control has some DPS units that can flatten the signal beautifully so there are definitely options. Aftermarket manufacturers are doing their best to keep up with current trends and have at least some options available. However I'd much prefer an aftermarket head unit if fitting one was an option.
Software updates, so now they can issue updates that break your car just like they do for computer software. Goody.
WAY too plausible
Well if your cars has any from of internet connection then software updates could be crucial for safety reasons.
The longer software is out there the higher chance of someone finding a way to break their firewall, so if car software isn't updated then there won't be any guarantee that someone won't hack your car.
Also true. Though I can imagine manufacturers stopping updates and support after a few years, which could make owning older cars as much a liability as someone running Windows XP and Internet Explorer in 2018.
@@DragonOverdosed The funny thing if you junk a car at seven years old it will not have amortized enough fuel savings to pay off the carbon debt of it's manufacturing this esp applies to hybrids and electrics that may use a lot of neodymium and cobalt in their manufacturing.
Naomi Makin And they can shut you down at a moments notice too... no computer, no problem!
Glad this is made. I'm always saddened by modern cars, it's good to add some positivity and try to see the bright side.
Beautiful content as always. Thanks for following up with this video
Aerodynamic technological dominance.
Modern cars at all price points execute the best ever use of both aerodynamic efficiency and downforce, especially supercars.
Some of these seem less like trends and more like standard technological increases. Stuff like fuel economy, engine performance, safety tech, and structural design and integrity are going to improve and become more standard. No automotive manufacturer is going to say "hey this trend of side-curtain airbags is getting really old. Let's ditch the idea!".
Your video complaining about say, plasti-chrome and tablet-mounted-style infotainment screens? Those are trends. They will die when people stop caring for them. Those can easily be changed through manufacturer/customer preference. If you wanted a trend, you could say (and I'm not saying these are good or bad but) plug-in hybrid electric powertrains, semi-autonomous driving capabilities/assistive technologies, LED accent lighting, the floating-design roofs, the move from sedans to CUVs, etc.
Man luv your channel
Good topic, well presented information.
There is no such thing as "more unique", because "unique" means "one of a kind". Something is either unique or it's not. You are welcome.
This is very correct. 😉
Which leads me onto another pet hate expression I see used too frequently ... "exact same". There is NO need to include "exact" ... aargh.
And more often than not, the cars trying to be unique are not at all unique, simply because they're all trying :D
@@WG55 Indeed.:)
@@Laz_Arus And how about "final goal" or "final result"? Popular redundancies that drive me crazy.
Him: "Governments have done a great job of making cars better by forcing Manufacturers to innovate."
Me: Screams in average price of new car is nearly 36k! 🙄
Honestly, this stuff has been around enough that the price shouldve dropped.. but no, shareholders are more important than the consumer so we havent seen new car prices drop. Depreciation on the other hand..
Such a heartfelt video!
Great topic. I could have watched and hour of this.
Something that I feel deserves mention is OBD2. Thanks to this, there is a standard connector to gain access to the car's on board diagnostic data. This is like being able ask your car what is wrong and have it answer back.
This is not a “trend” dumbass
Since 1996 buddy.
my no#1 is safety/driver support systems. It's good to have more airbags, better materials to mitigate impact energy (I am sure you have a word in English for that, sorry I am not a native speaker), but it's better to have an emergency brake, pedestrian detection, automated evasion system or better traction control, to avoid the accident at all. especially when we find it not only in MB S class limo - but in kia ceed or ford focus.
Well, sure, but one does not excludes the other, for the cases where te collision is indeed unavoidable, for example when you are not in any way causing the accident but another car does hit yours
Fayheurblode absolutely! However, you cannot provide the same amount of crumple zones (got it from wiki, don't know if that's the correct word) in ford focus and ford expedition. IF they hit each other in a head collision, the guy from focus will suffer from deacceleration related G-force twice harder (with my assumption that front of the expedition is two times longer than focus) than the guy from expedition [if I remember the physic lesson from my high school correctly. but it was 20 years ago]).
So the best way to provide more chances to survive for a focus guy is to slow down both cars before they hit each other. Because IF you hit something there is a lot of stuff (physic laws mostly) that you cannot change. but if you can prevent the accident, it's a huge win for you, the other guy, both families and insurance companies.
Michal Klucz of course, and I never said that you had to exclude active security (collision avoidance) for passive security (passenger protection during and after the crash) nor the other way around
I've been watching your videos for the past few weeks and only now realise I hadn't subscribed..... fixed that problem👍
I'm glad you mentioned safety because a lot of 'car guys' think its cool to hate on safety features, which I think is pretty dumb considering how many lives are saved by these new technologies.
So imagine someone removing all brakes in a running car via OTA updates...
Isn't that a mechanical system? A dar doesn't depend on its software to brake
Gerard Joaquino ....hacking cars could be a potential issue.
@@comedyman112 not when it's brake-by-wire now...
@@isaiahcat3523 hackers might be the least of our concerns when government can do far worse.
I'm not a fan of drive-by-wire throttles...partly because they stop working when the electronics plays up, or you get rust on an electrical ground, or a fuse blows. But wire-only steering and brakes sounds like a recipe for disaster. With a computer-controlled mechanical system, at least when the computer craps itself we still have that mechanical system as a backup. It may not be great, it may be heavy and require some muscle...but at least it's still there.
Until it all breaks! Piece by piece, the manufacturers will keep their hands in your pocket. Here is a reality check, SG: I just replaced my 2010 Nissan Titan Pro4X with an identical 2018 model. The sticker price went from $37,000 to $50,000 in 8 years. That is 35%! Weight went up by 600 pounds. And the insurance premium also went up by 32%. Again, for the identical truck that is. Frankly, you can take all that technology and shove it because my pay didn't go up by 35% in the last 8 years.
Worse fuel ec with that weight gain.
Nice one guys 👍🏼 thanks
UNCLE !!! A most convincing presentation substantiating the argument for modern cars... In fact, so convincing, I'm selling off all my cars and buying a 2019 Chevorscheta Corregedor BFD- GT3 with the 1,117 hp V9, and the L3 extra body armor package , upgrade to the Holographinica Techno-tainment
Score - 9.2
Gigantic improvements in automatic transmissions, how is this not mentioned?!
Because there almost just as many problems with automatics as there are improvements.
Many DCTs have had significant shifting and stalling issues (especially from VW and Ford).
A lot of the "slushbox" automatics have reliability issues (particularly with Honda and Chrysler-group cars).
CVTs from around 5 or so years ago were horrendously unreliable (Nissan). Sure, they're a hell of a lot better today, but everyone blindly hates them because they can't adjust to change.
Of course, there are a few automatics out there that have really dramatically improved in the past 15 years, but there are far too many issues for them to be generalized as overall better.
The 4L80e has been out for quite some time at this point
@@Toastmaster_5000 Honda & Chrysler have made unreliable automatics for over 30 years. At least now they don't suck till they break, as opposed to the good old days when they sucked till they broke, at which point they sucked more. Going from my old 5 speed ZF, a world class transmission in it's day, to their new 8 speed unit was a revelation. For comparison, I've got a 6 speed getrag for when I'm not stuck in city traffic.
I agree, automatic transmissions are far better than they used to be. There have been some growing pains with advancements in technology with the electrification of automatic transmissions but at least they don't burn up clutches or vomit gears and springs anymore.
Overall, automatic transmission failure rates, especially recalls, have gone up significantly in the last 7-8 years. CVT's and DCT's are inherently less reliable than a slushbox\torque converter transmission. CVT's fail no matter how often you change the fluid because the drive belt is eventually going to stretch beyond the tensioner tolerance. DCT's will inherently fail because like a manual transmission they have clutch packs, which costs thousands to replace instead of hundreds.
Most transmission failures from the 80's and 90's era came down to poor cooling due to spent fluid. People simply didn't maintain them as more and more people moved away from manual transmissions which are for all intents and purposes maintenance free until you replace the clutch at 150k for a few hundred bucks, at which time you replace $20 in gear oil. Transmissions (especially those from Japan, specifically Aisin) in the 2000's were and still are incredibly reliable even with little maintenance and much abuse.
Meanwhile I don't know a single person with a 'modern' Nissan, Ford, or Audi that hasn't had a transmission problem that is usually so expensive to fix they dump the vehicle.
First time seeing one of your vids, really awkward how you guys just stand there. Let's try to find you guys some chairs and a desk 👍
Its hard to sit comfortably at a desk when your being held at gunpoint by car manufacturers off camera who saw the first series of videos on the subject.
Safety. I remember my physics teacher showing us an example of how safety has been improved in modern cars. He showed us a close up picture of two cars that were in an accident and he asked how fast we thought these two cars were going when they crashed. There weren't any major dents or anything, so we said below 10 miles an hour. He showed us a second photo of the same two cars, but zoomed out. There was blood all over the windshields. All the safety advancements from airbags(sodium azide reaction, which is literally an explosive) to 3 point seat belts to whiplash protection built into the seat headrests. It prevents the squishy human beings from becoming into paste.
Good video, 'geese. Thanks for bringin' it!
It was an awesome video and really enjoyed it, idk why I found it so awkward to just see you standing like sticks next to each other. Maybe a more flowing video perhaps
Hi I'm Savage Geese and Im a Mac.
I am so glad you keep showing my new car : KIA forte 2019 :)
Ergonomics also includes how to design systems so that people can interact with them safely and efficiently. Although modern cars are certainly more quiet and comfortable than before, any system that requires interaction with a touch screen, taking your eyes off the road, is a step back, ergonomically speaking.
It is terrifying that steering and braking is fly-by-wire. If you lose power, you're screwed. If I lose power in my "old" 2004 Explorer, I can still operate the brakes and steering. They're more stiff, but I can still control the vehicle. If there is not a mechanical link, you lose redundancy, and that's a really bad thing.
It is true that technology has done a lot to improve cars. I drove my sister's new Dodge Challenger and it was awesome. It's RWD and has decent styling. Even the V6 version can haul ass! It also has amazing cornering. I drove that thing on a twisting mountain road with hairpin turns at 15-20MPH higher speed than I used to drive, and had excellent control the whole time. This is one of the few vehicles I would be willing to consider if I had to buy a new car.
I wish more companies would build cars that have the classic styling of an older car and are RWD, but have the advancements of new technology and engineering without sacrificing user-serviceability or mechanical control. Also, I don't want screens or an infotainment system.
Basically, I would like to see a modern car that has the benefits of modern technology and engineering without the drawbacks that are imposed by the newer designs we currently have.
This, thank you. I would love to see a dodge viper ta without the fucking u connect system
Planes have been fly-by-wire for decades and haven't been safer
@@samin90 Planes also have 3-4 redundant computer systems, while cars do not. Control-by-wire systems haven't exactly been trouble free in planes (even with redundancy), nor have they been in cars e.g. those stupid camrys whose ECU would give uncommanded full throttle.
Unintended acceleration is dipshits confusing the throttle and brakes. Even if the ECU does decide to go WOT there are plenty of ways to kill power to the wheels
@@samin90 Of course you can just put it in neutral, but idiots didn't realise that and got killed by their camry ECU going spastic. How are you going to cope with a car computer going spastic if there's no mechanical control over gears, steering and brakes?
Next best trend should be an alarm that rings youre phone when you forget your sleeping kids in the backseats.
#mysmartphone
#becauseimnot
That's a thing now on some higher end cars. It's...weird.
Too many electronics also means more complicated cars means more prone to faults. Modern cars are not durable 2 years max. Getting repairs is nightmare.
I like how beautiful they have become. As for improvements it is to be expected after so many years.
I am not a social sciences expert, but comparing this video "The Best" (100k views) and your previous video "The Worst" (1.5M views).. I can say that people like to complain. :D
Anyway good content, keep up the good work!
This is the first time you mention your own car 4:35. Good choice btw.
@savagegeese, wtf. you 2 stand in front of the wall facing camera and awkwardly turning towards one another in the conversation not knowing what to do with your arms. Get 2 armchairs, a table, put a glass of beer in front of you. 2 cameras, face your friend and have a conversation. like normal ppl.
good channel, though :)... Keep up the good work.
Self-dimming mirrors may be an old invention, but I really like that they're coming down to the cheaper cars now.
Excellent well balanced presentation again. For me the first point was the most valid for sure with the rest being less important to me personally. I appreciate reliability and efficiency in a car nowadays but the rest ... well ..... and full marks for referencing some heavy metal for once (LOL) albeit in a medieval torture sense ......... :)