Looking back at everything I've worked with, Logic, Ableton, Protools, Studio-One, Cubase, etc... the most satisfying thing I have ever used was the MPC-60.
For precision it's hard to beat a DAW and VST. For warmth, unpredictability of the VCO sound and harmonics it's hard to beat hardware. It all depends on what is needed at that particular moment. As much as I prefer hardware, if I need to use a VST to get a sound that I want and the predictability that I need then that's what I go for. It's always good to have the best of both worlds
@Nathaniel Walker Controlling my hardware, which is mainly VCO synths, with my MPC is a lot more reliable than a DAW. That's the reason artists like Kebu use a MPC to sequence their rig when he plays live. When I sequence with my MPC I manipulate the sound while recording to my external source, so technically you are right it's not the actual MPC that is giving me the sound, but it is the sequencing brain for my hardware, which I prefer to use instead of a DAW and VSTs. PC doesn't replicate the characteristic as well as hardware just like samples doesn't replicate a real live instrument or orchestra if you are really a stickler. Still if it makes you happy with whatever you use then that's all that really matters.
@@Trensharobro I came here to shout the same comment in the same vein. You literally took the words…… I’m here to shake your hand. It’s an expensive mistake thinking the MPC will get you that analog sound and then hitting export 😂
I'm somewhere in the middle. I do love me some hardware for creativity and idea flows, but I love the flexibility and control of the DAW for arranging, mixing, and mastering. There's something about that big wide open timeline that helps me see it all. I get why people hate the endless mouse clicking though..
Hundred per cent, dude. Drag and drop won for reasons. I barely feel the difference between editing video and audio these days... But I can hardly stand to try to record on the computer.
I feel you..I switch between the 2.. Sometimes I get in a mode where im full daw and just want to produce fast..But then I get in a hardware zone where I want to explore and bring the best out of the machine.
@@nerfytheclown Your right..When I started with video I was surprised on how fast I actually leaned it..Some people dont know half the skills they have with there daw can be transferred to video editing.
That's what makes Mpcs legendary. I use both. I have the MPC Live and a MacBook Air M1. Sometimes I rock in standalone and when I want vsts I use them together. I personally think that Akai is leading with standalone devices. Even connected to a computer I mostly operate the software from my LIVE. Great video✌
For me, the possibility of doing pretty much anything in a DAW is second to none. But the reason why I make my beats on my MPC more than in the daw is because of how quick I can sit there and make a beat on the MPC compared to the daw. When I'm working in a daw I just have so many options that it takes me forever to complete a beat and I change my mind a lot on a lot of things and start thinking of other things to create because I can literally make anything happen. So I pick the MPC for a quicker workflow and the daw for being able to make anything in my mind possible.
Hardware and Software go really well together imo. There's no need to chose one or the other if you incorporate them BOTH into your workflow. It all depends on preference, and what makes YOU work faster. I'm under the belief system that every producer has their own style which means they have their own perfect workflow. Hardware Gear be expensive though and you can't just torrent a Prophet 5 😂😭
I have been a software producer then got some midi controllers then a cupple physical sythersizors. At the moment I only send midi out from My Daw to the sythersizors live with midi keyboard or play pre made midi from the DAW to the synths. Its alot more work to actually make a track in My daw using physical gear then software.
I’m old school, I make all my music on my workstation (korg kronos) it just works for me. The sound I get I feel is unique and defines me as a musician. I started learning and recording my first tracks on a T3 korg. That keyboard is a classic. It had a simple 8-track sequencer but it just molded me to be a hardware musician
To be honest with you. I'm a vintages head from the days of the ASR 10, SP & MPC 3000. It's just something about the internal circuity, so I gotta say hardware for beatmaking and software as my tape deck.
Bruh, definitely an age old question. For me, I grew up around HW. Which like most I couldn’t afford. So I tried SW for a bit. It was convenient for sure. But I have an affinity for HW more. These days, I’m more of a hybrid creative. It’s more like 80/20 in my lab. But, it’s way too limiting to restrict yourself to just one side of the house. True creatives can thrive both ways. As SW can inspire or enhance your HW creations. Keep em coming. 👍🏾✌🏾✊🏾
No doubt fam Thanks!..And your right getting good at hardware help me out alot with software..To a point nowadays I just use my hardware workflow when dealing with software.
Yeah. I'm about to turn 46 and I had no idea until I plugged into FL Studio; just how much synth music had been important to me my whole life... But it was that the synths felt cold, after I got through a decent chunk of the presets and I knew I had that fever in my blood. One good wife and another thousand bucks later, I was running my DeepMind 12 via the Model: Cycles and shortly had a four track and a 24 track recorder. Still easiest to edit in Studio One, so I do that. Also... It let me do my experiment for JAMuary, where I had fellow nerds contribute to one track I was building. Hardware that, tell me how long it takes.
Yo I was just telling my mans, we came up on the software, but since I integrated using a hardware setup, the way I have my synths and samplers hooked up with all of its various imperfections, I have a signature sound that no one else has. Even the digital synths, when I put it through the preamps of the interface and how I adjust the gain and all that, it's just different. And even when I'm trying to be quick and stay in the box, I learned so much about how to create a certain sound with plugins. Also, a computer, as flexible as it is, it isn't specifically made to make music. You can spend time making your templates and all that, and get a bunch of midi controllers, but at the end of the day you're still trying to replicate the hardware experience, which is already set up and designed just to make music. And playing beats live and on RUclips is a better visual experience for the audience with hardware depending on how you do it. At the end of the day though, it all goes through ozone and out to the dsps though.
I think a hybrid of both is dope for years I was hardware only because I wasnt feeling the whole ponit and click of using software but when the MV 8000/8800 dropped it opened my eyes to a whole new workflow which led me into copping maschine and using Komplete . Now sound wise your never gonna get that SP1200 / MPC 60/60II or MPC 3000 sound out of software so if that is what people are trying to emulate just save up and cop the real shit because those plug ins just aint cutting it this why I say a hybrid of both is he best of both worlds . Ive been using a SP1200 , MPC 3000 MIDI SYNCED to either protools ,logic or abelton for years and combined soft synths and have had really good results until I was able to buy the hardware versions of the synths I wanted . Start with what you have and bang out heat cause its all about that boom bap at the end of the day .
It uses chipsets right? Wouldn't that be the key to it sounding the way it does? Chipsets emulation is actually hard for any computer to do if I'm not mistaken
Right, man. Yo, Ave. You obviously swing both ways on this issue of soft vs hard. Good to see your input though. I was thinking along those lines myself.
I just switched from computer daw to roland vs 2480. I was only using the computer as a glorified multitracker. 16 in 16 out into mackie onyx 4880. Using rackmount effects. Occasionally using vst effects hybrid setup. For me nothing beats the feeling of hardware. It's inspiring. Software sounds great and if you like the work flow of hardware then it's great. As one great poet by the name of DJ Quick said "A piece gear ain't never made a hit"
Hybrid setup is the way to go. I use Ableton & MPC Software as my DAW, but my AKAI Force is the go to cuz it powers up quicker than my Mac and its less diving, not to mention its basically a DAW in a box. I get a bit overwhelmed sometimes in Ableton, but not so much on the MPC Software as it relates to creating but in the end, I use the DAW for all that it has to offer. 2 heads are better than 1, go hybrid!
I just got an MPC Studio and I feel like using that with their software, VST's, and a keyboard is the perfect balance for me, especially considering costs. I'm using hardware where it makes sense and software where it makes sense in a minimal and affordable package. Technology sure has come a long way in this regard!
Now when it comes to PCM sound modules or drum machines like the Roland R-8 and Alesis SR-16 I much prefer having the hardware than just a sample pack even though I used to load pretty much any drum machine as a sample pack but the R-8 bridges the gap perfectly as it has grid style pads like an MPC and it does interact with Groove Agent One if you don't mind constantly pressing buttons to assign the note you wish to trigger. A run of the mill PCM sound module is principally the same as a disk based sampler module with the only difference being that PCM romplers have their sounds stored on internal rom chips and the samplers tend to read samples either from a floppy or in some cases a hard drive. But very sorry to say with analogue synths, DX7 and older drum machines like the Linn Drum TR-707 or Yamaha RX I like the convenience of VST software synths. Cost and space is certainly not a trivial matter.
I started out on software - later to hardware. and now the best combo is a hybrid setup. Hardware with software. Best bang for your buck. Can’t live without that mpc1000. Nor fl studio lol
@@bonafidebeatz20 ... Every single time I tried to record audio, I would set things up, get a good test-pass... Call my wife up to the mic, say; and it would do something completely different than it had before. Didn't matter how many times I did practice runs, the thing would work fine. Go time? It was like "Ghost in the Machine" or "Lawnmower Man": you know... Stuff computers can't really do, happening right there on the screen in front of me.
Of course it depends on ones needs and means, but the immediacy of the hardware should be its strong point. When it comes to using midi, I think modern devices are getting there, but twenty years ago the software was making life easier in a lot of ways. For me, it still does, because timeline, WAV-based editing is AMAZING with a mouse.
i understand what you mean with immediacy but ask anyone who used to work in the tape era, there was nothing immediate about analogue tape. i feel like its always going to be hardware for quality and software for convenience (apply where necessary), like tesla using humans for fiddly tasks and robots for strength based tasks
@@nonexistentchannel1111 yeah...I was feeling the lack of quality. Only been making music for about two years. Accidentally started making stuff on FL Studio and I was very impressed with what the synths could do... But the price to own the good ones was stupid. I found out I've been secretly addicted to synthesis my whole life. First album I ever got on tape was DOMINATED by the DX 7 apparently. Quincy Jones didn't need no computer...
@@DyReckProductions hey, that's me too. I could never afford the things back when I was a kid, which would have gotten me making music. I had a guitar and never got good at it.
I grew up on hardware, but have learned to appreciate software. So to me it’s in the Box and out the Box. Both have advantages in a unique way. And there are great software hardware emulators nowadays it’s hard to distinguish for the average listener.
Thanks for the tip. I sample a lot with DAW and midi controllers and seem to lose quality with time stretching. I'm hoping an MPC solves this issue @@DyReckProductions
When I'm in the studio I rather produce with hardware but when I'm traveling around, I'll take only my laptop and I'm more than great just running software
I love my MPC One. It’s hardware running software that emulates hardware that you can hook up to software running through other hardware that can connect to other hardware AND software. It’s the turducken of music! Num num num num…
Hybrid is the way to go IMO... buy a good controller and boom! you have great keys, knobs, pads ect. Some VSTs are so 🔥 but its good to have a break from that now and then. Hardware analog usually sounds a bit better too.
I use both, to be honest. For speed of sample-based productions, software is very difficult to beat. You're already on the computer, so you can just sample sounds or download them right into your DAW without even messing around with wires. HOwever, I grew up playing the piano and drums and very much vibe with music in an incredibly different way with hardware and it shows in my music. The stuff I do on hardware is a lot more 'raw' and 'in the moment' while my software tunes end up being meticulously arranged, almost to the point of comedic exaggeration of someone with obsessive compulsive disorder that just has to have everything *exactly right*. Hardware lets me get out of that mindset where I'm editing the same bar forever which, in context of the song, no one's really going to give a second thought to. So...yeah, I think the two main categories of studio definitely just give off a certain kind of vibe that bleeds into the music a bit more in very subtle ways to the listener, but very concrete and dramatic ways to the person using them.
Nah! Both. If I want to have fun I use mpc and hardware synths. When it’s time to work and make 10 quick beats that you hear currently on top playlists, vst and daws. Software getting expensive too. I need both
I think a mix of both is key depending on what you are needing for. For me, I had mostly rappers so as much as I love Waves Plugins you can't get that analog sound that you get from Reverbs and Delays. A cheap Behringer Compressor changed my entire sound and took a lot of pressure off my CPU. Plus, it just feels and sounds better. I love fruity loops but it's something about hardware that just can't be copied with any daw. Mixing on a SSL even if it's just a control surface made my mixes better
I use the best of both worlds. While I use primarily hardware instruments for music production, composing, and sequencing, I use software for recording and mixing. I personally think it is hard to beat a DAW for recording and mixing. I get that some may think differently and prefer a hardware mixing console with multiple racks of outboard analog gear. Some will go as far as tracking to tape still. I used to have an analog smaller large format mixing console, and later, a digital console as well as a rack of outboard gear. My processing gear was cheap and lowend because that was all I could afford. Today's plugins could easily outperform tltose rack pieces I had back then. To be honest, unless you can afford the "expensive high-end" analog gear, you may as well stay in the box (ITB) for recording and mixing. Now, since I record hardware into a DAW, I do have a very nice interface with quality A/D converters. As far as music production goes, I grew up back during the time before plugins and producers were using hardware keyboards, drum machines, and sequencers. Although I have experience using both hardware and software foraking music, I prefer hardware because it inspires me and it always has. Sometimes working with software virtual instruments in programs like Ableton Live or FL Studio when making music entirely on a computer feels just like that, "WORK!." I also don't really feel like I'm actually playing a real instrument. On the contrary, when I'm sitting on front of an actual hardware synthesizer or drum machine, I feel like I'm actually playing a real physical instrument. It could just be a mental mindset. However, music is supposed to be enjoyable and the same goes for the process of making it. I personally enjoy making music with hardware. I guess you could say I have a hybrid setup consisting of both hardware and software. This type of setup works well for me.
Word!..I jump from one to the other..I jump on a daw..Forget the daw workflow..The learn it again..Then go back to hardware.. Forget that workflow..Then learn the hardware workflow back again..It crazy for me Lmao!
@@DyReckProductions LOL. Yeah. I know what you mean. If you don't use a piece of gear for a long time, your memory becomes rusty and you have to re-learn it. Yep. I've been there!!!!!
summing up my longer comment: in the same way tesla utilises humans for fiddly tasks and robots for strength based tasks, i believe hardware should be used for sound quality/ creativity and software should be used where structure and ease of use is necessary
@@nonexistentchannel1111 Tape days was crazy Lol..Alot of producers from back then do say it helped them come to a decision and finish songs quicker..But no..I dont think anyone wants to go back Lol!
The wise thing to say is hybrid I know that but honestly from a living breathing experiences joy real human experience sat in front of my Moog Matriarch wired to my 10 inch monitor speakers … well that’s hard to beat.
Dope!...Great Subject!...If you came from Hardware frm the 90's,it was the feel MPC..ASR...but they would not let me touch them😵...Now I have both!😁....& yes U had 2 sell Crack Rocks!
This is what I noticed about using expansion sounds on the MPC ONE, is that they are just not like my hardware stuff. Hardware just sounds way better to my ear. Software sounds are just lacking some kind of dynamic that you can only get with hardware. I have a question for anyone who knows what they're talking about...are MPC ONE expansions in standalone considered software in hardware, or just software sounds? This is where I'm confused and never got a correct answer from anyone? Does anyone know for sure?...SBN RESONATE
What’s funny is , as time goes on people become nostalgic for certain things. You got plug-ins that emulate a bad mp3 now. Now we all know we would have been big mad if we downloaded a bad mp3 back in the day but to some people that represents a different time. Same thing goes for vinyl , cassettes , hardware etc. They saw crackles and pops on a record as a negative outcome of the media but now it is being chased after like it’s going to defeat COVID 19. If the RZA made 36 chambers on a PC , would you still like it? Or not like it as much? Speaking of RZA , I remember in the beginning of one of RZAs solo albums songs he says “Niggas still using breakbeats and shit” That’s crazy to me that at one point , using a breakbeat was seen as played out by him. We are all chasing something though. Either clean and pristine audio or something dirty. But that’s something most people do not care about. If the degradation of bit rate is done by a computer or an SP1200 (Arguably is also a computer) , to me does not matter. And I’m a producer. Think about how the “regular listeners” feel.
Computers weren’t as powerful to make an album like 36 Chambers. However a lot of hit records have been made on the Atari and Amiga. In particular House music. There was a time we could not achieve the same raw sound with computers, but with the A/D converter emulations we have now, it can.
i feel like software will always be better for recording but in terms of a professional warm sound analogue is necessary at least somewhere in the signal path
I use both. A real producer ain’t tripping on the tools. That’s not open minded. I use ableton some days or really everyday. Then I use the octatrack or Mpc daily too
ableton has my heart but i hate soft synths ://. love my korg prologue. analog synths are definitely worth the investment. i have a digitakt too but it’s more just for fun and not as serious. a good way to make limitations and be more creative
Analog is analog but don’t convert it into digital or then you lose what makes it analog. So since we are using smartphone to see youtube why don’t use it for koala sampler app? Converters? Use a good audio interface and filter the input and outputs throught your sp404 or sp1200… or tape recorder but then sell mixtapes and vinyl (produced properly) and forget about spotify, itunes, youtube… or just play at your home where you setup sounds like you want to sound like. The moment we are discussing this at youtube, sharing beats over the internet in compressed formats (all are lose formats, “human ear can’t hear over blablabla” we hear and we feel and digitalised music lacks in certain “frequencies” (not only heard but felt) and that’s why people discuss and science will teach us in the future which is already felt by most of us. Said that, it’s cheapest (affordable) the software route and those “feeling benefeits are only for those who know” and aren’t crucial for selling beats or enjoy music (making). Just a hidden truth that some feel as glitch in the matrix and discuss over and over… research in radionics and white noise effects at the oonosphere if you are curious. Then each tool will place itself at the right spot. M2C but also Love and Peace brothers!
Can't really choose. I mean software you have endless instruments and effects that come out of a single laptop or desktop...the limits are storage space, CPU, and ram. However those limitations can be upgraded depending on your initial choice of PC/Mac hardware. Hardware the limits are either way more limited or way more sound at minimum but still limited lol. 25 MB VS 25 GB. Them MEG's might shit on those GIG's. You might stack a few vsts in project and the CPU meter might start going all over. Hardware is usually way more optimised because reverb might have its own processor, dynamic effects might be on their own processor etc. Usually better sound based off of closer to raw source material. Again that's how limited it is though. 2 or 4 FX slots and that's it sometimes. Hardware is like what you have is what you have...Software is like I don't have it, but I can get it and throw it in here or do this to get that. It's more easier to stay focused on hardware to me. Software you might trail off on RUclips and see a twerking contest by accident. When I use software after a while I just get tired of working in a creative way. Too many options and the goals of finishing turn into experiments you don't want to stick with. You just want to keep cycling sounds or effects. Hardware I just have my mind set like I'm going to master this piece of gear and make people like you made that whole thing on that? Flip side I don't want to bring a bunch of stuff with me. Run the risk of my precious hardware getting a scratch or losing a knob. Could do it all on a laptop and not have to think too much. Can't be biased or choose even if I'm reaching.
Man..I feel you..You have to be really disciplined to work with the limitless options in software..And I feel you on the twerking contest distractions on RUclips Lmao!
I always hated the idea of when people first started referring to "musical instruments" as hardware. Vs. Software which is just a computer program running a simulation. I don't pick up by Stratocaster and say "this is a hardware guitar" it's just a guitar. I wish I could find the person that started calling physical musical instruments "hardware" and slap them with one of those old heavy 88 key Ensoniq Keyboards. Now every time I grab my 2KXL or my Triton or even some old keyboard like my JX3P (that was invented before these DAWS) people refer to it as hardware. Ain't no ports to plug any of this stuff into a computer on these things.. why is it called "hardware"? Guess I live in a hardware house, drive a hardware car, use a hardware toilet...date a hardware woman... you get my drift. To me it's just musical instruments and software instruments/recording instrumentation. Computers have their place. They make things "easy" for people that don't have musical skills and the result is a bunch of generic unimaginative copy paste music like we have going on today. Before computer use became heavy people had to know how to play, to sing, to create, to use their tools and equipment and they produced better results. Modern music as in music of this era sounds better processed but it lacks human ingenuity. Songs don't stick and last. They're like fast food. They get made, consumed and then forgotten. The irony is technology is supposed to make things easier. Like recording on multiple tracks, mixing, mastering, adding in effects, syncing gear ETC. all that's beautiful. But Music is Art and that human element that created all the music we know and love is getting lost. The new MPC's especially. There seems to be a line in the sand between people that want the classic MPC workflow vs. the newer MPC workflow. I don't even think it's daws vs hardware I think it's just "creativity" vs the "un-creative". People using old MPC's want to think more about the sounds they're make and be more hands on in the process of what they create. The newer MPC crowd is more intent on downloading pre-made sounds and loops and then relying on programs like 2.0 to fill in the blanks for them. When I got my new MPC the entire thing just seemed like one big download box. Targeting around downloading sound Expansions and loops (even bundled with Splice) instead of the classic focus of encouraging you to make your own samples and use the features of the MPC to make them shine. Akai never did that before. They had that Sample CD the old MPC's came with but that was it. You were on your own to find your own sounds. Now it's like "We did the thinking for you buy our pre-made sounds!". All in all music making has changed a lot and while I love music I don't respect producer culture because producer culture is a modern day fad filled with pretenders and know nothings that don't have an actual passion to be artists. They don't want to learn how to create they just want to cut corners, throw something up on spotify and cross their fingers hoping to get rich of it. All these posers just gum up the system by over saturating it with their digital regurgitation and lack luster copy and paste sounds and everybody knows it. I haven't heard an original rapper or rap beat in like a decade and you think that problem would be stuck to one genre but it's not. It's like that with rock, pop, alternative... hell even country. Everybody sounds the same! No one is original or unique any more. The only time we had "uniqueness" in music is when artist didn't have all this digital daw crap and actually had to THINK and be CREATIVE! For example people are hungry for authentic music. I can't not log into youtube and get spammed about Kate Bush "Running up that hill" because it was in stranger things. That song is now back on the billboard top 10 and it came out like over 30 years AGO!. People making music to day are going to tell me all this technology is making good music right now when people are so starved for real authentic music that a 30 year old song can hit the billboard top 10? That tell's you how WEAK technology has made modern music. Nothing out right now can hold a candle to music that was made without Daws. You got bangers recorded on 8 Track that sound better and have dug a deeper impact in musical history than these FL studio users or Pro tools dudes with their 9,999 tracks to record on. People trying to diss old technology but the top selling Albums are all songs that were recorded on tape. People still trying to beat albums from the 70's, 80's and early 90's. Soon as technology got better music started falling off completely. So nah man ain't no Verses. with me... it's only what Workses. If you can make chart toppers on some old busted MPC give me the old busted MPC. I want some stuff that's already won it's battles. I see some producer putting his old gear out on the curb talking about "this ain't the latest and greatest" I'm like gimmy that! I"ll take it and put it to work. Gimmy all that old gear. If somebodies grandma got an old wooden MPC in her attic I'll take that too and her ADAT. I want the stuff that works. Real talk sometimes when I'm browsing youtube I find peoples channels be nothing but one dude and some old busted MPC. Half the buttons and pads don't even work..some of them even missing. MPC be dirty as ever. Dude will have like 10 subscribers on his channel. Then come put and be like "I just made this sitting on the toilet this morning while getting ready for work"... then dude will hit the play button and that machine would throw out the nastiest sickest freaking beat you ever heard in your life. Make your ears go "damn!" and all dude used to make that joint was that busted MPC and his imagination. Then you go to someones elses channel and they'll have like a million subs and half a guitar centers inventory worth of gear and make some mediocre beat and act like that stuff is fire. It ain't the tech.... it's the skill of the master behind it.
Ahh man you could have did a WHHW video Lol!!..I feel you though with the state of today's music..Its like the bar has been lowered..Alot..I know its hard to compete with the legendary music from the 80's and 90s..But im like dang can some folks at least try lol..It seems with the artist now a days its more about the image and controversy rather than the music.
@@DyReckProductions haha I'm just passionate my dude. I agree with you 100% I feel like there's multiple civil wars going on right now in the music game. We have independent artist vs. labels trying to monopolize the streaming game, we have “social media” artist vs. authentic artist (with actual talent), we have push button instant beat producers vs. creative craft working producers, We still have computer made musical talent vs. real human made musical talent… it’s just all these battles going on and all of us are losing because people aren’t buying new music like that anymore and songs have short shelf lives. All this tech out here to make music easier than ever and nobody is really bringing it like that. We’re just stuck in a world of trap beats and autotune singers. I’m not trying to be on no old man rant. I don’t want the past back I want the future. I want to hear somebody just do something different that’s actually worth buying and listening too for once. The tech that's out there right now is stuff we all used to dream about...and all it's used for is to make the same ol' stuff we just got done listening too.
The software that really bridges the gap for me and literally makes me question myself for using hardware is two plugins in general. Tal sampler, and Tal drum. Those are the best sample based plugins in the box hands down no contest. I can make sp1200 samples with tal sampler no problem or s1000 or pretty much any old school sampler. I challenge anyone to learn tal drum and Tal sampler in the box and whatch how these two plugins will blow your brain backwards. Tal drum has an algorithm built in that simulate's an analog drum machine falling off it's timing due to jitter. I am telling you beyond a reasonable doubt. If you have great conversion to monitor your computer, that will change your decision making in the box. Don't skimp out on that. What they don't tell you about the hardware drum machines, they specialize in the d / a conversion. Drum machines never skimp out on that, that's why they bang the way they do.
@@DyReckProductions bro, you gone love them joints, it really doesn't get any better than those two pieces. I will use those before any other drum mangler in the box. Tal Drum is a true virtual mpc, you can record straight into it also like the real deal. It really doesn't get better than that in the box. and the prices don't get any better than what they want for them.
I would rather hardware. Hardware filtered out the the garbage by cost. If it took you 2 years to buy a drum machine it showed dedication. If you get a crack version of anything your dedication is most likely not going to be there in a short period of time.
Your argument that gear sounds better then software and unique is only relevant for Analog gear but digital gear processes the sound in the exact same way as software so sounds will be identical with the same settings or preset selected. The cost dont just kinda give the edge to software over hardware it smashes it to bits. The Cheapest sythersizors available cost around $500 and for that price I can get Reason which has the hardware emulsions of effects, and samplers, and sythersizors. Reasons considered expensive but there are cheaper DAWs and even free ones that do way more then a single physical device. Finally most modern expensive $2000 range hardware like Akai MPC X or Yamaha Montage have DAW software on them now anyway.
Yeah alot of folks do call the MPC's now a days really software in a box..They pretty much sound like a daw..Except for the X.. I think there's something different internally going on in there.
@@DyReckProductions Right but DAW actually stands for Digital Audio Work Station, an MPC X and Montage are Audio work Stations and now have the Digital part so they are no different from DAW.
I use both because I have no time for such an infantile fake debate..hehehehehe...I got real stuff to do with my life like make projects and then get outside in the real world. I guarantee I can make either sound great and the same, and MOST people will never know the difference. You are 1000% right about how analog giving you such randomness because of chips, DSP, electricity, etc etc,..Even the SAME synths can sound the same among machines. I have not spent much more for hardware than software, so that depends how smart and creative you are with shopping.....EmU 6400..$200..Alesis Quadrasynth PLus.. $100..Samson mixer, Alesis modules, Midi Patchbays.. FREE...most software..FREE...
Yeah that’s why I use both Mpc live and a daw. Sometimes I make the entire beat in the Mpc live. Export the wav files, and arrange, mix and master in the daw
It's all software. Even these devices are running firmware. At the end of the day, the dsp is carried out by a microcontroller. So the winner is software by default.
Both are very Necessary! Hans Zimmer, George Duke other Greats have never promoted any thing standalone. Both or Necessary! No one ever looks are listening to anything and argues is it software or hardware are 24bit /192k. Hybrid setup is Necessary!
Ehh. This is like 2010 all over again. Either you want to play your shyt by finger or you want to drag/drop and click click the mouse. Then of course you can do both. It's not about the quality anymore.
Looking back at everything I've worked with, Logic, Ableton, Protools, Studio-One, Cubase, etc... the most satisfying thing I have ever used was the MPC-60.
No doubt fam.
For precision it's hard to beat a DAW and VST. For warmth, unpredictability of the VCO sound and harmonics it's hard to beat hardware. It all depends on what is needed at that particular moment. As much as I prefer hardware, if I need to use a VST to get a sound that I want and the predictability that I need then that's what I go for. It's always good to have the best of both worlds
I feel you bro.
@Nathaniel Walker Controlling my hardware, which is mainly VCO synths, with my MPC is a lot more reliable than a DAW. That's the reason artists like Kebu use a MPC to sequence their rig when he plays live.
When I sequence with my MPC I manipulate the sound while recording to my external source, so technically you are right it's not the actual MPC that is giving me the sound, but it is the sequencing brain for my hardware, which I prefer to use instead of a DAW and VSTs.
PC doesn't replicate the characteristic as well as hardware just like samples doesn't replicate a real live instrument or orchestra if you are really a stickler. Still if it makes you happy with whatever you use then that's all that really matters.
@@Trensharobro I came here to shout the same comment in the same vein. You literally took the words…… I’m here to shake your hand. It’s an expensive mistake thinking the MPC will get you that analog sound and then hitting export 😂
I'm somewhere in the middle. I do love me some hardware for creativity and idea flows, but I love the flexibility and control of the DAW for arranging, mixing, and mastering. There's something about that big wide open timeline that helps me see it all. I get why people hate the endless mouse clicking though..
Hundred per cent, dude. Drag and drop won for reasons. I barely feel the difference between editing video and audio these days... But I can hardly stand to try to record on the computer.
I feel you..I switch between the 2.. Sometimes I get in a mode where im full daw and just want to produce fast..But then I get in a hardware zone where I want to explore and bring the best out of the machine.
@@nerfytheclown Your right..When I started with video I was surprised on how fast I actually leaned it..Some people dont know half the skills they have with there daw can be transferred to video editing.
That's what makes Mpcs legendary. I use both. I have the MPC Live and a MacBook Air M1. Sometimes I rock in standalone and when I want vsts I use them together. I personally think that Akai is leading with standalone devices. Even connected to a computer I mostly operate the software from my LIVE. Great video✌
For me, the possibility of doing pretty much anything in a DAW is second to none. But the reason why I make my beats on my MPC more than in the daw is because of how quick I can sit there and make a beat on the MPC compared to the daw. When I'm working in a daw I just have so many options that it takes me forever to complete a beat and I change my mind a lot on a lot of things and start thinking of other things to create because I can literally make anything happen. So I pick the MPC for a quicker workflow and the daw for being able to make anything in my mind possible.
Hardware and Software go really well together imo. There's no need to chose one or the other if you incorporate them BOTH into your workflow. It all depends on preference, and what makes YOU work faster. I'm under the belief system that every producer has their own style which means they have their own perfect workflow. Hardware Gear be expensive though and you can't just torrent a Prophet 5 😂😭
I have been a software producer then got some midi controllers then a cupple physical sythersizors. At the moment I only send midi out from My Daw to the sythersizors live with midi keyboard or play pre made midi from the DAW to the synths. Its alot more work to actually make a track in My daw using physical gear then software.
Lol I feel you.
@@HOLLASOUNDS No doubt so you combine all your gear together in your work flow..Thats cool.
@@DyReckProductions Physical sythersizors have not been recorded and used in My music yet, 90% of My sound comes from Reasons 4 to 12.
Exactly
I’m old school, I make all my music on my workstation (korg kronos) it just works for me. The sound I get I feel is unique and defines me as a musician. I started learning and recording my first tracks on a T3 korg. That keyboard is a classic. It had a simple 8-track sequencer but it just molded me to be a hardware musician
Oh ok Cool..The T3 is another classic.
To be honest with you. I'm a vintages head from the days of the ASR 10, SP & MPC 3000. It's just something about the internal circuity, so I gotta say hardware for beatmaking and software as my tape deck.
I feel you.
Bruh, definitely an age old question. For me, I grew up around HW. Which like most I couldn’t afford. So I tried SW for a bit. It was convenient for sure. But I have an affinity for HW more. These days, I’m more of a hybrid creative. It’s more like 80/20 in my lab. But, it’s way too limiting to restrict yourself to just one side of the house. True creatives can thrive both ways. As SW can inspire or enhance your HW creations. Keep em coming. 👍🏾✌🏾✊🏾
No doubt fam Thanks!..And your right getting good at hardware help me out alot with software..To a point nowadays I just use my hardware workflow when dealing with software.
Yeah. I'm about to turn 46 and I had no idea until I plugged into FL Studio; just how much synth music had been important to me my whole life... But it was that the synths felt cold, after I got through a decent chunk of the presets and I knew I had that fever in my blood. One good wife and another thousand bucks later, I was running my DeepMind 12 via the Model: Cycles and shortly had a four track and a 24 track recorder.
Still easiest to edit in Studio One, so I do that. Also... It let me do my experiment for JAMuary, where I had fellow nerds contribute to one track I was building. Hardware that, tell me how long it takes.
@@nerfytheclown Lol Nice.
Yo I was just telling my mans, we came up on the software, but since I integrated using a hardware setup, the way I have my synths and samplers hooked up with all of its various imperfections, I have a signature sound that no one else has. Even the digital synths, when I put it through the preamps of the interface and how I adjust the gain and all that, it's just different. And even when I'm trying to be quick and stay in the box, I learned so much about how to create a certain sound with plugins. Also, a computer, as flexible as it is, it isn't specifically made to make music. You can spend time making your templates and all that, and get a bunch of midi controllers, but at the end of the day you're still trying to replicate the hardware experience, which is already set up and designed just to make music. And playing beats live and on RUclips is a better visual experience for the audience with hardware depending on how you do it. At the end of the day though, it all goes through ozone and out to the dsps though.
Word!..I feel you!..Watching software vids does get boring on RUclips Lol.
Enjoyed this very much, been a while since I've had that many smiles inside. Be encouraged, keep this up!
Thanks fam!..I appreciate it!!
I think a hybrid of both is dope for years I was hardware only because I wasnt feeling the whole ponit and click of using software but when the MV 8000/8800 dropped it opened my eyes to a whole new workflow which led me into copping maschine and using Komplete . Now sound wise your never gonna get that SP1200 / MPC 60/60II or MPC 3000 sound out of software so if that is what people are trying to emulate just save up and cop the real shit because those plug ins just aint cutting it this why I say a hybrid of both is he best of both worlds . Ive been using a SP1200 , MPC 3000 MIDI SYNCED to either protools ,logic or abelton for years and combined soft synths and have had really good results until I was able to buy the hardware versions of the synths I wanted . Start with what you have and bang out heat cause its all about that boom bap at the end of the day .
...I wanted it to be all about the boom-bap, bro.... But all that comes out of my boxes is Clownwave.
I really be banging out trap beats and drill beats on analog hardware 😈🔥
I feel you bro!
@@ELISHACAEZ Oh ok nice..You should put some videos up.. most of the time I see people do the trap and drill stuff on software.
The SP 1200 is a digital sampler btw......... So basically it is a computer ijs
Just an EXTREMELY OLD computer. But we luv it for that reason.
It uses chipsets right? Wouldn't that be the key to it sounding the way it does? Chipsets emulation is actually hard for any computer to do if I'm not mistaken
Right, man. Yo, Ave. You obviously swing both ways on this issue of soft vs hard. Good to see your input though. I was thinking along those lines myself.
I can always count on ave to show up and be like "such and such is a computer if you didn't know"
@@Craftmaster3 yeah, us ADD show-off nerds do tend to be reliable like that.
I just switched from computer daw to roland vs 2480. I was only using the computer as a glorified multitracker. 16 in 16 out into mackie onyx 4880. Using rackmount effects. Occasionally using vst effects hybrid setup. For me nothing beats the feeling of hardware. It's inspiring. Software sounds great and if you like the work flow of hardware then it's great. As one great poet by the name of DJ Quick said "A piece gear ain't never made a hit"
True!
Hybrid setup is the way to go. I use Ableton & MPC Software as my DAW, but my AKAI Force is the go to cuz it powers up quicker than my Mac and its less diving, not to mention its basically a DAW in a box. I get a bit overwhelmed sometimes in Ableton, but not so much on the MPC Software as it relates to creating but in the end, I use the DAW for all that it has to offer. 2 heads are better than 1, go hybrid!
No doubt..I feel you.
I played guitar for 15 years and now I'm starting on electronic music, so hardware make me feel like I'm playing an instrument not just clicking
I feel you fam.
Highlight of my week is when DyReck posts ngl fam
Lol!..Thanks fam!!..I appreciate it!!
I just got an MPC Studio and I feel like using that with their software, VST's, and a keyboard is the perfect balance for me, especially considering costs. I'm using hardware where it makes sense and software where it makes sense in a minimal and affordable package. Technology sure has come a long way in this regard!
No doubt bro!
Both seem great to me. Dope vid bro
Thanks fam.
Now when it comes to PCM sound modules or drum machines like the Roland R-8 and Alesis SR-16 I much prefer having the hardware than just a
sample pack even though I used to load pretty much any drum machine as a sample pack but the R-8 bridges the gap perfectly as it has grid style
pads like an MPC and it does interact with Groove Agent One if you don't mind constantly pressing buttons to assign the note you wish to trigger.
A run of the mill PCM sound module is principally the same as a disk based sampler module with the only difference being that PCM romplers have
their sounds stored on internal rom chips and the samplers tend to read samples either from a floppy or in some cases a hard drive. But very sorry to
say with analogue synths, DX7 and older drum machines like the Linn Drum TR-707 or Yamaha RX I like the convenience of VST software synths.
Cost and space is certainly not a trivial matter.
No doubt..I feel you.
I like both. If you can combine them then it's really great.
No Doubt!
I started out on software - later to hardware. and now the best combo is a hybrid setup. Hardware with software. Best bang for your buck. Can’t live without that mpc1000. Nor fl studio lol
Hahaha yeah. I just wish I could have ever gotten over Edison. Or around it... Or through. Geez. I hate Edison so much....
@@nerfytheclown oh man Edison is a breeze. Once you get pass the horrible UI, it’s pretty straight forward lol
@@bonafidebeatz20 ... Every single time I tried to record audio, I would set things up, get a good test-pass... Call my wife up to the mic, say; and it would do something completely different than it had before. Didn't matter how many times I did practice runs, the thing would work fine. Go time? It was like "Ghost in the Machine" or "Lawnmower Man": you know... Stuff computers can't really do, happening right there on the screen in front of me.
Try Ableton/Bitwig or the AKAI FORce ;p
Yeah the 1000 is Nice..Even better with the jj Lol.
Of course it depends on ones needs and means, but the immediacy of the hardware should be its strong point. When it comes to using midi, I think modern devices are getting there, but twenty years ago the software was making life easier in a lot of ways. For me, it still does, because timeline, WAV-based editing is AMAZING with a mouse.
i understand what you mean with immediacy but ask anyone who used to work in the tape era, there was nothing immediate about analogue tape. i feel like its always going to be hardware for quality and software for convenience (apply where necessary), like tesla using humans for fiddly tasks and robots for strength based tasks
@@nonexistentchannel1111 yeah...I was feeling the lack of quality. Only been making music for about two years. Accidentally started making stuff on FL Studio and I was very impressed with what the synths could do... But the price to own the good ones was stupid. I found out I've been secretly addicted to synthesis my whole life. First album I ever got on tape was DOMINATED by the DX 7 apparently. Quincy Jones didn't need no computer...
Im not gonna lie software did make life easier.. And introduced alot of folks into production who probably would never had tried it.
@@DyReckProductions hey, that's me too. I could never afford the things back when I was a kid, which would have gotten me making music. I had a guitar and never got good at it.
I grew up on hardware, but have learned to appreciate software. So to me it’s in the Box and out the Box. Both have advantages in a unique way. And there are great software hardware emulators nowadays it’s hard to distinguish for the average listener.
No doubt.
Which one sounds better for sampling? In your opinion
Hardware..I think you keep more of the dynamics in the sound.
Thanks for the tip. I sample a lot with DAW and midi controllers and seem to lose quality with time stretching. I'm hoping an MPC solves this issue
@@DyReckProductions
When I'm in the studio I rather produce with hardware but when I'm traveling around, I'll take only my laptop and I'm more than great just running software
I feel you.
NIce one kid…Hardware all about the SP 1200/12 DJ Muggs approved gear
Lol.. I feel you fam!
The hybrid method like the Maschine and the new MPCs are the best way to go.
Thats pretty dope.
I love my MPC One. It’s hardware running software that emulates hardware that you can hook up to software running through other hardware that can connect to other hardware AND software. It’s the turducken of music! Num num num num…
Lol I feel you.
always with the quality content ☮️
Thanks fam!..I appreciate it.
Hybrid is the way to go IMO... buy a good controller and boom! you have great keys, knobs, pads ect. Some VSTs are so 🔥 but its good to have a break from that now and then. Hardware analog usually sounds a bit better too.
I feel you.
Hardware with great software like the new MPC lineup. You can literally do it all on those machines.
No doubt.
I use both, to be honest. For speed of sample-based productions, software is very difficult to beat. You're already on the computer, so you can just sample sounds or download them right into your DAW without even messing around with wires. HOwever, I grew up playing the piano and drums and very much vibe with music in an incredibly different way with hardware and it shows in my music. The stuff I do on hardware is a lot more 'raw' and 'in the moment' while my software tunes end up being meticulously arranged, almost to the point of comedic exaggeration of someone with obsessive compulsive disorder that just has to have everything *exactly right*. Hardware lets me get out of that mindset where I'm editing the same bar forever which, in context of the song, no one's really going to give a second thought to.
So...yeah, I think the two main categories of studio definitely just give off a certain kind of vibe that bleeds into the music a bit more in very subtle ways to the listener, but very concrete and dramatic ways to the person using them.
Interesting point on how you vibe to the hardware music you make differently..It puts you in a different space..Thats dope.
Nah! Both. If I want to have fun I use mpc and hardware synths. When it’s time to work and make 10 quick beats that you hear currently on top playlists, vst and daws. Software getting expensive too. I need both
I feel you!
I use both. Hardware for creating, Software for a tape recorder, editing, arranging, mixing and mastering.
Nice!
I think a mix of both is key depending on what you are needing for. For me, I had mostly rappers so as much as I love Waves Plugins you can't get that analog sound that you get from Reverbs and Delays. A cheap Behringer Compressor changed my entire sound and took a lot of pressure off my CPU. Plus, it just feels and sounds better. I love fruity loops but it's something about hardware that just can't be copied with any daw. Mixing on a SSL even if it's just a control surface made my mixes better
Yeah I feel you about that hardware.
Love your channel man👍
Thanks bro!!..I appreciate it!
I use the best of both worlds. While I use primarily hardware instruments for music production, composing, and sequencing, I use software for recording and mixing.
I personally think it is hard to beat a DAW for recording and mixing. I get that some may think differently and prefer a hardware mixing console with multiple racks of outboard analog gear. Some will go as far as tracking to tape still. I used to have an analog smaller large format mixing console, and later, a digital console as well as a rack of outboard gear. My processing gear was cheap and lowend because that was all I could afford. Today's plugins could easily outperform tltose rack pieces I had back then. To be honest, unless you can afford the "expensive high-end" analog gear, you may as well stay in the box (ITB) for recording and mixing. Now, since I record hardware into a DAW, I do have a very nice interface with quality A/D converters.
As far as music production goes, I grew up back during the time before plugins and producers were using hardware keyboards, drum machines, and sequencers. Although I have experience using both hardware and software foraking music, I prefer hardware because it inspires me and it always has. Sometimes working with software virtual instruments in programs like Ableton Live or FL Studio when making music entirely on a computer feels just like that, "WORK!." I also don't really feel like I'm actually playing a real instrument. On the contrary, when I'm sitting on front of an actual hardware synthesizer or drum machine, I feel like I'm actually playing a real physical instrument. It could just be a mental mindset. However, music is supposed to be enjoyable and the same goes for the process of making it. I personally enjoy making music with hardware.
I guess you could say I have a hybrid setup consisting of both hardware and software. This type of setup works well for me.
Word!..I jump from one to the other..I jump on a daw..Forget the daw workflow..The learn it again..Then go back to hardware.. Forget that workflow..Then learn the hardware workflow back again..It crazy for me Lmao!
@@DyReckProductions LOL. Yeah. I know what you mean. If you don't use a piece of gear for a long time, your memory becomes rusty and you have to re-learn it. Yep. I've been there!!!!!
Use what you got as long as it get the results you desire.
No doubt.
summing up my longer comment: in the same way tesla utilises humans for fiddly tasks and robots for strength based tasks, i believe hardware should be used for sound quality/ creativity and software should be used where structure and ease of use is necessary
noone misses tape lets be honest
@@nonexistentchannel1111 Tape days was crazy Lol..Alot of producers from back then do say it helped them come to a decision and finish songs quicker..But no..I dont think anyone wants to go back Lol!
@@DyReckProductions i feel like thats more like a limitations help creativity thing moreso than an aid but i do get that perspective also
The wise thing to say is hybrid I know that but honestly from a living breathing experiences joy real human experience sat in front of my Moog Matriarch wired to my 10 inch monitor speakers … well that’s hard to beat.
I feel you.
An Amiga 600 with a DSS8+ sampler cartridge and running Octamed IV prob counts as software, lolz...but it feels like hardware to me!
Lol I feel you.
Dope!...Great Subject!...If you came from Hardware frm the 90's,it was the feel MPC..ASR...but they would not let me touch them😵...Now I have both!😁....& yes U had 2 sell Crack Rocks!
Lmao!!!
This is what I noticed about using expansion sounds on the MPC ONE, is that they are just not like my hardware stuff. Hardware just sounds way better to my ear. Software sounds are just lacking some kind of dynamic that you can only get with hardware.
I have a question for anyone who knows what they're talking about...are MPC ONE expansions in standalone considered software in hardware, or just software sounds? This is where I'm confused and never got a correct answer from anyone? Does anyone know for sure?...SBN RESONATE
For me, most of the time, it's software and some good midi controllers. Still like using hardware on occasion.
I feel you.
Shout-out to the Roland VS-2480 CD for blurring the lines
Lol Word!
What’s funny is , as time goes on people become nostalgic for certain things. You got plug-ins that emulate a bad mp3 now.
Now we all know we would have been big mad if we downloaded a bad mp3 back in the day but to some people that represents a different time. Same thing goes for vinyl , cassettes , hardware etc.
They saw crackles and pops on a record as a negative outcome of the media but now it is being chased after like it’s going to defeat COVID 19.
If the RZA made 36 chambers on a PC , would you still like it? Or not like it as much? Speaking of RZA , I remember in the beginning of one of RZAs solo albums songs he says “Niggas still using breakbeats and shit”
That’s crazy to me that at one point , using a breakbeat was seen as played out by him.
We are all chasing something though. Either clean and pristine audio or something dirty. But that’s something most people do not care about.
If the degradation of bit rate is done by a computer or an SP1200 (Arguably is also a computer) , to me does not matter. And I’m a producer. Think about how the “regular listeners” feel.
Computers weren’t as powerful to make an album like 36 Chambers. However a lot of hit records have been made on the Atari and Amiga. In particular House music. There was a time we could not achieve the same raw sound with computers, but with the A/D converter emulations we have now, it can.
I started in the mid 90s. Cost!!!!!! I love hardware but if not for software most people that are in music today would not be in music today.
Facts!!
i feel like software will always be better for recording but in terms of a professional warm sound analogue is necessary at least somewhere in the signal path
by recording i mean structuring songs etc. analogue preamps are leagues easier than digital
@@nonexistentchannel1111 I feel you.
MPC’s were always like computers inside a groove box
Word!
I use both. A real producer ain’t tripping on the tools. That’s not open minded. I use ableton some days or really everyday. Then I use the octatrack or Mpc daily too
I feel you..Versatility is dope!
how about a bit of both? if people are seriously into music production they can probably afford to get both and you can get into best of both worlds.
I feel you.
Both
ableton has my heart but i hate soft synths ://. love my korg prologue. analog synths are definitely worth the investment. i have a digitakt too but it’s more just for fun and not as serious. a good way to make limitations and be more creative
Oh ok you aint playin..You got the Digitakt..nice!..I tried ableton a couple times years ago.. Just could never get into it..But people love it.
it's like having a virtual Lamborghini in a video games vs having a real one
Lmao!
Anyone here do their Mixdowns and Masters completely DAWless? If you do Lmk what your workflow is like! 🔥
Lol.
Isn't this more off an New Years Eve or Christmas Video/topic??
Lol might be.
Analog is analog but don’t convert it into digital or then you lose what makes it analog. So since we are using smartphone to see youtube why don’t use it for koala sampler app? Converters? Use a good audio interface and filter the input and outputs throught your sp404 or sp1200… or tape recorder but then sell mixtapes and vinyl (produced properly) and forget about spotify, itunes, youtube… or just play at your home where you setup sounds like you want to sound like. The moment we are discussing this at youtube, sharing beats over the internet in compressed formats (all are lose formats, “human ear can’t hear over blablabla” we hear and we feel and digitalised music lacks in certain “frequencies” (not only heard but felt) and that’s why people discuss and science will teach us in the future which is already felt by most of us.
Said that, it’s cheapest (affordable) the software route and those “feeling benefeits are only for those who know” and aren’t crucial for selling beats or enjoy music (making). Just a hidden truth that some feel as glitch in the matrix and discuss over and over… research in radionics and white noise effects at the oonosphere if you are curious. Then each tool will place itself at the right spot. M2C but also Love and Peace brothers!
Deep!..No doubt fam!!
Can't really choose. I mean software you have endless instruments and effects that come out of a single laptop or desktop...the limits are storage space, CPU, and ram. However those limitations can be upgraded depending on your initial choice of PC/Mac hardware.
Hardware the limits are either way more limited or way more sound at minimum but still limited lol. 25 MB VS 25 GB. Them MEG's might shit on those GIG's. You might stack a few vsts in project and the CPU meter might start going all over. Hardware is usually way more optimised because reverb might have its own processor, dynamic effects might be on their own processor etc. Usually better sound based off of closer to raw source material. Again that's how limited it is though. 2 or 4 FX slots and that's it sometimes.
Hardware is like what you have is what you have...Software is like I don't have it, but I can get it and throw it in here or do this to get that.
It's more easier to stay focused on hardware to me. Software you might trail off on RUclips and see a twerking contest by accident. When I use software after a while I just get tired of working in a creative way. Too many options and the goals of finishing turn into experiments you don't want to stick with. You just want to keep cycling sounds or effects. Hardware I just have my mind set like I'm going to master this piece of gear and make people like you made that whole thing on that?
Flip side I don't want to bring a bunch of stuff with me. Run the risk of my precious hardware getting a scratch or losing a knob. Could do it all on a laptop and not have to think too much.
Can't be biased or choose even if I'm reaching.
Man..I feel you..You have to be really disciplined to work with the limitless options in software..And I feel you on the twerking contest distractions on RUclips Lmao!
Lol that beat will go from sounding like sounding like a Dilla beat to a Mannie Fresh type beat...switched the whole narrative messing around.
@@THA-REAPER Lmao!!..Word!
it's still a crime how shallow univeral daw midi integration is on the current mpc lineup if you asked me, we know the hardware is capable
Yeah they probably need to do some extra updates.
1:10 That you Dyreck? Lol
Lmao!!!!
If your grew up during the cold war hiding under desks you probably prefer hardware
Lmao!!
You have to Voltron them together
Lol No doubt!
I always hated the idea of when people first started referring to "musical instruments" as hardware. Vs. Software which is just a computer program running a simulation. I don't pick up by Stratocaster and say "this is a hardware guitar" it's just a guitar. I wish I could find the person that started calling physical musical instruments "hardware" and slap them with one of those old heavy 88 key Ensoniq Keyboards. Now every time I grab my 2KXL or my Triton or even some old keyboard like my JX3P (that was invented before these DAWS) people refer to it as hardware. Ain't no ports to plug any of this stuff into a computer on these things.. why is it called "hardware"? Guess I live in a hardware house, drive a hardware car, use a hardware toilet...date a hardware woman... you get my drift.
To me it's just musical instruments and software instruments/recording instrumentation. Computers have their place. They make things "easy" for people that don't have musical skills and the result is a bunch of generic unimaginative copy paste music like we have going on today. Before computer use became heavy people had to know how to play, to sing, to create, to use their tools and equipment and they produced better results. Modern music as in music of this era sounds better processed but it lacks human ingenuity. Songs don't stick and last. They're like fast food. They get made, consumed and then forgotten. The irony is technology is supposed to make things easier. Like recording on multiple tracks, mixing, mastering, adding in effects, syncing gear ETC. all that's beautiful. But Music is Art and that human element that created all the music we know and love is getting lost.
The new MPC's especially. There seems to be a line in the sand between people that want the classic MPC workflow vs. the newer MPC workflow. I don't even think it's daws vs hardware I think it's just "creativity" vs the "un-creative". People using old MPC's want to think more about the sounds they're make and be more hands on in the process of what they create. The newer MPC crowd is more intent on downloading pre-made sounds and loops and then relying on programs like 2.0 to fill in the blanks for them. When I got my new MPC the entire thing just seemed like one big download box. Targeting around downloading sound Expansions and loops (even bundled with Splice) instead of the classic focus of encouraging you to make your own samples and use the features of the MPC to make them shine. Akai never did that before. They had that Sample CD the old MPC's came with but that was it. You were on your own to find your own sounds. Now it's like "We did the thinking for you buy our pre-made sounds!".
All in all music making has changed a lot and while I love music I don't respect producer culture because producer culture is a modern day fad filled with pretenders and know nothings that don't have an actual passion to be artists. They don't want to learn how to create they just want to cut corners, throw something up on spotify and cross their fingers hoping to get rich of it. All these posers just gum up the system by over saturating it with their digital regurgitation and lack luster copy and paste sounds and everybody knows it. I haven't heard an original rapper or rap beat in like a decade and you think that problem would be stuck to one genre but it's not. It's like that with rock, pop, alternative... hell even country. Everybody sounds the same! No one is original or unique any more. The only time we had "uniqueness" in music is when artist didn't have all this digital daw crap and actually had to THINK and be CREATIVE! For example people are hungry for authentic music. I can't not log into youtube and get spammed about Kate Bush "Running up that hill" because it was in stranger things. That song is now back on the billboard top 10 and it came out like over 30 years AGO!.
People making music to day are going to tell me all this technology is making good music right now when people are so starved for real authentic music that a 30 year old song can hit the billboard top 10? That tell's you how WEAK technology has made modern music. Nothing out right now can hold a candle to music that was made without Daws. You got bangers recorded on 8 Track that sound better and have dug a deeper impact in musical history than these FL studio users or Pro tools dudes with their 9,999 tracks to record on. People trying to diss old technology but the top selling Albums are all songs that were recorded on tape. People still trying to beat albums from the 70's, 80's and early 90's. Soon as technology got better music started falling off completely.
So nah man ain't no Verses. with me... it's only what Workses. If you can make chart toppers on some old busted MPC give me the old busted MPC. I want some stuff that's already won it's battles. I see some producer putting his old gear out on the curb talking about "this ain't the latest and greatest" I'm like gimmy that! I"ll take it and put it to work. Gimmy all that old gear. If somebodies grandma got an old wooden MPC in her attic I'll take that too and her ADAT. I want the stuff that works. Real talk sometimes when I'm browsing youtube I find peoples channels be nothing but one dude and some old busted MPC. Half the buttons and pads don't even work..some of them even missing. MPC be dirty as ever. Dude will have like 10 subscribers on his channel. Then come put and be like "I just made this sitting on the toilet this morning while getting ready for work"... then dude will hit the play button and that machine would throw out the nastiest sickest freaking beat you ever heard in your life. Make your ears go "damn!" and all dude used to make that joint was that busted MPC and his imagination. Then you go to someones elses channel and they'll have like a million subs and half a guitar centers inventory worth of gear and make some mediocre beat and act like that stuff is fire.
It ain't the tech.... it's the skill of the master behind it.
Ahh man you could have did a WHHW video Lol!!..I feel you though with the state of today's music..Its like the bar has been lowered..Alot..I know its hard to compete with the legendary music from the 80's and 90s..But im like dang can some folks at least try lol..It seems with the artist now a days its more about the image and controversy rather than the music.
@@DyReckProductions haha I'm just passionate my dude. I agree with you 100% I feel like there's multiple civil wars going on right now in the music game. We have independent artist vs. labels trying to monopolize the streaming game, we have “social media” artist vs. authentic artist (with actual talent), we have push button instant beat producers vs. creative craft working producers, We still have computer made musical talent vs. real human made musical talent… it’s just all these battles going on and all of us are losing because people aren’t buying new music like that anymore and songs have short shelf lives. All this tech out here to make music easier than ever and nobody is really bringing it like that. We’re just stuck in a world of trap beats and autotune singers. I’m not trying to be on no old man rant. I don’t want the past back I want the future. I want to hear somebody just do something different that’s actually worth buying and listening too for once. The tech that's out there right now is stuff we all used to dream about...and all it's used for is to make the same ol' stuff we just got done listening too.
@@187onasimp Yeah man..I feel you 100%.
The software that really bridges the gap for me and literally makes me question myself for using hardware is two plugins in general. Tal sampler, and Tal drum. Those are the best sample based plugins in the box hands down no contest. I can make sp1200 samples with tal sampler no problem or s1000 or pretty much any old school sampler. I challenge anyone to learn tal drum and Tal sampler in the box and whatch how these two plugins will blow your brain backwards. Tal drum has an algorithm built in that simulate's an analog drum machine falling off it's timing due to jitter. I am telling you beyond a reasonable doubt. If you have great conversion to monitor your computer, that will change your decision making in the box. Don't skimp out on that. What they don't tell you about the hardware drum machines, they specialize in the d / a conversion. Drum machines never skimp out on that, that's why they bang the way they do.
People sleep on Tal Sampler
@@tcksounds953 you can give a person the knowledge, but you cant make them think! let them stay sleep my friend.
Oh wow Ima check them joints out.
@@DyReckProductions bro, you gone love them joints, it really doesn't get any better than those two pieces. I will use those before any other drum mangler in the box. Tal Drum is a true virtual mpc, you can record straight into it also like the real deal. It really doesn't get better than that in the box. and the prices don't get any better than what they want for them.
@@justinmerritt3843 Yeah they look pretty nice!
Hardware.
Lol no doubt.
I would rather hardware. Hardware filtered out the the garbage by cost. If it took you 2 years to buy a drum machine it showed dedication. If you get a crack version of anything your dedication is most likely not going to be there in a short period of time.
Yes sir!!..Weather for good or bad it did weed out alot of folks.
Your argument that gear sounds better then software and unique is only relevant for Analog gear but digital gear processes the sound in the exact same way as software so sounds will be identical with the same settings or preset selected. The cost dont just kinda give the edge to software over hardware it smashes it to bits. The Cheapest sythersizors available cost around $500 and for that price I can get Reason which has the hardware emulsions of effects, and samplers, and sythersizors. Reasons considered expensive but there are cheaper DAWs and even free ones that do way more then a single physical device. Finally most modern expensive $2000 range hardware like Akai MPC X or Yamaha Montage have DAW software on them now anyway.
Yeah alot of folks do call the MPC's now a days really software in a box..They pretty much sound like a daw..Except for the X.. I think there's something different internally going on in there.
@@DyReckProductions Right but DAW actually stands for Digital Audio Work Station, an MPC X and Montage are Audio work Stations and now have the Digital part so they are no different from DAW.
@@HOLLASOUNDS Yeah they did change it to Midi Production Center.
I use both because I have no time for such an infantile fake debate..hehehehehe...I got real stuff to do with my life like make projects and then get outside in the real world. I guarantee I can make either sound great and the same, and MOST people will never know the difference. You are 1000% right about how analog giving you such randomness because of chips, DSP, electricity, etc etc,..Even the SAME synths can sound the same among machines. I have not spent much more for hardware than software, so that depends how smart and creative you are with shopping.....EmU 6400..$200..Alesis Quadrasynth PLus.. $100..Samson mixer, Alesis modules, Midi Patchbays.. FREE...most software..FREE...
No doubt fam..I got the XL7..But I been really looking to pick up a EmU 6400..I'll figure it out Lol.
MPC Live 2 wins!
But I never finish my beats because mixing and arranging on it is terrible 🤣
For real, that's the killer for these new mpc models.
Lol.
Yeah that’s why I use both Mpc live and a daw. Sometimes I make the entire beat in the Mpc live. Export the wav files, and arrange, mix and master in the daw
I started with Software back in 2013 and switched to Hardware in 2021. Im never going back. Software just got too boring for me.
I feel you.
It's all software. Even these devices are running firmware. At the end of the day, the dsp is carried out by a microcontroller. So the winner is software by default.
Lol.
There’s software in hardware.
Yup.
Hardware is dead, Only for people that need that tactical feel. Modern DAW can recreate any old sound/vibe.
Some of that analog hardware is pretty nice..There are some folks that can produce the same magic on a daw though..But they got to be really skilled.
Daw cant win when you know how to mix master (complex routing) in standalone mode
No doubt.
Both are very Necessary! Hans Zimmer, George Duke other Greats have never promoted any thing standalone. Both or Necessary! No one ever looks are listening to anything and argues is it software or hardware are 24bit /192k. Hybrid setup is Necessary!
I feel you.
Endless options = endless shit.
I feel you.
Hardware has built in software. Software tries to emulate hardware hmmm 🤔
Lol.
Ehh. This is like 2010 all over again. Either you want to play your shyt by finger or you want to drag/drop and click click the mouse. Then of course you can do both. It's not about the quality anymore.
Lol I feel you.
Hybrid
its not about which , its about do you have enough money to own a decent hardware ? or you don't and you use software enough so you get used to it
Good point.
Hardware for me
No doubt.
" Hardware over Software" - 💾
I collect vintage Analog Synthesizers & them plug ins sound nothing like the real instrument!!! 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹
#AnalogBrothers
No doubt.
Hybrid
No doubt.