Abramovic was the one who started to ruin it, Man City ruined it from the point they signed Robinho & then PSG’s spending didn’t start until after both city & Chelsea had already fucked it
Draws can be better than wins, I saw a 2-2 draw where the home went 1-0 up in the 1st half, then down 2-1 in the 2nd half, then they scored in the 96th minute to make it 2-2 and the crowd erupted
Chat saying no to atrioc asking if the best players go to the prem pissed me off. Sure you have some exceptions like (washed) players in Saudi and then mbappe, kane and madrid barca. But the average level of the prem is way higher than any of the other leagues. The prem defo has the majority of the best players in football imo. I mean you could argue nearly every city player is top 3 in their postion in the world. Walker, dias, stones, Rodri, silva, ederson, kdb and haaland all have a case to be in or around the top 3
quality of the league is unmatched. If you understand football you know that winning PL is way better accomplishment than any other local league really. Arguments saying that best players (like Messi or Mbappe) arent in PL isnt worth anything, its a team sport. Premier league has highest amount of teams that compete at highest stage.
You saying this actually iritates me cause it shows you only watch big teams play football if you did actually watch football outside of the big teams in Europe you would know than not only are there hundreds of world class players outside of the prem like Rodrygo or reus but also amazing youth talents like yamal, balde, gavi, pedri, Bellingham, kubo etc
@Tincantimmothy I acknowledged that barca and madrid are outliers and will always have world class talents. Also reus hasn't been world class in years 😭 and kubo isn't at that level yet imo
@Tincantimmothy Also you said it shows I only watch big teams and said I should watch teams outside of the big teams in Europe and then proceeded to name players from the two biggest European clubs not in England 😭. The only played you named not from a European giant is kubo and he's not even world class
@Tincantimmothy Also ur bar for being a world class talent is far too low. There can't be 'hundreds' of world class talents that makes no sense. A world class player is like top 3/5 in their position
@@Buzzsaw.1103gas being short for gasoline, which is what the refined version of petroleum commonly used in cars is called. Conversely, petroleum makes no sense because your car doesn’t run off of fucking crude oil.
@@roni4138 they're talking about how TV rights revenues are distributed. American sports leagues tend to do very equal distribution, most European leagues reward the winners way more than the team finishing 15th. American leagues are very socialist in terms of making sure every team gets rewarded regardless of performance, whereas the European leagues tend to be very cutthroat in punishing teams that don't perform. The prem is an outlier among European leagues for having relatively equal distribution of TV rights revenues, and it also hands out large parachute payments to relegated clubs.
Chelsea spent 1.3B just on player transfer fees (not including player salaries) in the space of 2 and a half years, and they finished 12th last year and will be lucky to get 11th this year
@ToucanSam123 Won a trophy and are in a better European competition. Also insane to fire Poch after he finally got things clicking and the players were bought in. I wouldn't be surprised if some Chelsea players don't request to leave if they don't win a trophy or do great in the league this season
The Fullham-Chelsea game that ended 0-0 wasnt dissapointing. Because of the fact that chelsea is such a bigger club, on paper Chelsea should have destroyed fulham, and gained 3 points so fullham wouldve ended with 0 points. But for Fullham fans the match was a success, cause they got 1 point since they drew the match.
Tbf, the example in the beginning (Chelsea) shows that a lot of money doesn't win you anything. You still need players that can play well together and a manager with a strategy that fits the time. Current examples are Stuttgart in Germany and Girona in Spain, who over perform in every statistic without spending big money.
8:35 On the other side, the alternative of giving everyone an equal share can end up with teams like the Oakland Athletics. Who have no incentive to do well cause they can just rely on the share of funds Edit: 10:51 he mentioned this
This is also what franchising has done to the LCS - Every team except for maybe TL and C9 just sandbags because they don't actually have to invest in the team or their administration to make money. Which is part of the reason promotion and relegation is so great, except the top clubs in Europe are all so wealthy that relegation is next to impossible. Everton, mentioned in the beginning of the video, is one of the only traditionally wealthy clubs to be in danger of the drop in recent times. They have seriously overspent and underpreformed and are a bit of a meme within the football world.
@@n0body550 I wouldn't make fun of school shootings watching a video talking about a school shooting, the context really does matter, it's extremely poor from him.
Almost stopped multiple times due to how annoying this guy is but finally stopped watching at the Hillsborough joke, even as a United fan I find that insanly gross. Have respect.
Watching atrioc make jokes about the death of 100 people and then seconds later taking the moral highground by saying ”but hey racism is bad right?” feels so insincere
making jokes about nearly 100 dead people who were then told it was their own fault in a coverup by the police and Tory government that lasted DECADES.
I would argue part of the English Premiers leagues success is that it has multiple great clubs. LIke France Germany are dominated by 1 club each and Spain 2.
The Australian Football League is probably the best example of the solution to this. Most of, if not all, the clubs are essentially owned by fan shareholders, who buy memberships that get them priority for tickets and such and elect the board members. This actually works financially for a few reasons: -For the most part, The clubs don't own the huge stadiums, so they don't have to pay for the maintenance. -Recruitment is all done through the league with the draft, so they have to be frugal and even with their spending on junior development, as they only get a priority to their own juniors in the draft, instead of automatically getting it. Teams also get draft picks based on performance, so the worst teams get the first picks of the juniors. -There's also decent sized Salary caps, which prevents big spending on massive Talent. -It's also a super niche sport only played here, so there's no bigger league to swipe the most valuable talent away with corrupt salaries. This IS the big league. -All of the Profits go back into the clubs, since there's no Billionaire trying to turn a profit. This has lead to the league being one of the most balanced sport's leagues in the world, with almost every club making an exciting run to the finals in the last decade or so.
in Italy the stadium grounds are owned by local municipalities, which leads to having some of the most dilapidated stadiums in the top 5 leagues. San Siro, one of the most iconic European stadiums, is incredibly worn down and old because teams don't want to invest in renovations if they don't own them outright. This is exacerbated by the economic disparity between north and south - Allianz stadium in Turin, one of Italy's most wealthy cities, is one of the very few "modern" Italian grounds. Your first point is great if the local governments can afford state of the art infrastructure. If not, it takes away from ticket sales, fan engagement, and merchandising - poorer clubs will just fall farther and farther behind. Aus rules, as you mentioned, is a niche and homogeneous sport. Football in Europe spans so many cultures and economic zones that implementing rules that cross those gaps is very challenging. Not impossible, but very challenging. FIFA is corrupt as shit though, so that's not really helping much. Germany's Bundesliga implements a fan-owned majority rule like you mentioned, which typically contributes to it being, generally, the most competitive top-5 league in Europe, though they still do have their giants in Bayern Munchen and Borussia Dortmund.
to add to this the a league is in a unique positions as one of the worst leagues to watch in terms of quality and entertainment no promotion and relegation doesn’t help either
Statistically speaking the A-League is actually one of the most entertaining leagues to watch based on the amount of goaled scored on average in a game. Yes, I agree that they should be marketing a lot better and they have with already making an announcement that relegation and promotion will be added in the near future. They've really done all they can at this moment in time. @@lilbltxh
The NFL really doesn't have a free rider problem the hard cap and floor are so close that every team is trying to win because you can't really save money not winning like in the MLB. Also it has no individual salary cap and no player is going to be close to the team cap like the NBA.
It's a stupid system to give more revenues to the top teams, unless you are the top teams and don't give a fuck. Kind of like capitalism, a few people get so rich they change the rules to suit thier interests at everyone elses expense.
the average american has the attention span of the stray dog i adopted... "How do you get excited for a nil-nil draw?" I guess their brains cant handle 30 seconds without someone getting a point or an ad playing
0:40 atrioc talking without knowing literally anything is so stupid. Bro you ARENT BRITISHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU DONT KNOW AT ALL WHY ITS A BIG THING JUST WAIT TO HEAR THE COMMENTARY MATE YOU LITERALLY GOT PROVEN WRONG TWENTY SECONDS LATERRR
6:09 thank you for calling it out, as a brit it sickened me to see British hooligans beating Italian fans leaving the stadium after the lost the Euros in 2020
Your US franchises suck, they can change of cities when the GM want. In Europe we have clubs, it's completely different. Our city clubs have a football team, a basketball team, a volleyball team, etc... And we follow our clubs (not the players as US Sports fans) from father to son, it's a religion.
US fans don’t follow players for the most part. Sure, there are definitely LeBron fans that like whichever team LeBron is on, but this is a rare example. Also, certain teams aren’t allowed to move locations such as the Green Bay Packers
"Europoor"... yeah. Take a look at inequality-adjusted HDI. Compare the average Western European to the average American :) But maybe you prefer having a higher total because of the US having more billionaires while people literary don't have clean water in their pipes?
7:53 "The Ball Is Round" is actually a great book, worth a read for anyone interested in football
Poor psg, how could they afford to keep up? Oh wait they were the ones that fucked the market
right before that no one spend money
Abramovic was the one who started to ruin it, Man City ruined it from the point they signed Robinho & then PSG’s spending didn’t start until after both city & Chelsea had already fucked it
Draws can be better than wins, I saw a 2-2 draw where the home went 1-0 up in the 1st half, then down 2-1 in the 2nd half, then they scored in the 96th minute to make it 2-2 and the crowd erupted
yes but a 0-0 is boring most of the time
schalke dortmund 4-4 was one of the sickest derby ive ever seen, 4-0 up in the first half and completely crumbling in the second half
Chat saying no to atrioc asking if the best players go to the prem pissed me off. Sure you have some exceptions like (washed) players in Saudi and then mbappe, kane and madrid barca. But the average level of the prem is way higher than any of the other leagues. The prem defo has the majority of the best players in football imo. I mean you could argue nearly every city player is top 3 in their postion in the world. Walker, dias, stones, Rodri, silva, ederson, kdb and haaland all have a case to be in or around the top 3
quality of the league is unmatched. If you understand football you know that winning PL is way better accomplishment than any other local league really. Arguments saying that best players (like Messi or Mbappe) arent in PL isnt worth anything, its a team sport. Premier league has highest amount of teams that compete at highest stage.
You saying this actually iritates me cause it shows you only watch big teams play football if you did actually watch football outside of the big teams in Europe you would know than not only are there hundreds of world class players outside of the prem like Rodrygo or reus but also amazing youth talents like yamal, balde, gavi, pedri, Bellingham, kubo etc
@Tincantimmothy I acknowledged that barca and madrid are outliers and will always have world class talents. Also reus hasn't been world class in years 😭 and kubo isn't at that level yet imo
@Tincantimmothy Also you said it shows I only watch big teams and said I should watch teams outside of the big teams in Europe and then proceeded to name players from the two biggest European clubs not in England 😭. The only played you named not from a European giant is kubo and he's not even world class
@Tincantimmothy Also ur bar for being a world class talent is far too low. There can't be 'hundreds' of world class talents that makes no sense. A world class player is like top 3/5 in their position
He forgot how there's relegation. Meaning if an owner doesnt spend anything and just piggy backs off the league for money, the team will be relegated.
he was saying the piggy back issue is a problem in the us where there isnt relegation
@@dai6419 you're confused
Hillsborough joke, classy
Oh get off it, I bet you've made a 9/11 joke or similar at some point.
British moment😂
@@aidso819 No, because i'm not a cunt, and it's especially worse if you're watching a video directly talking about the disaster.
@@aidso819not all of us are as insensitive as you lot you know what i mean?
@@emperor_von_doughnuts339 surely you're a beacon of morality and have never made a joke
Hearing an American say Premier like that infuriates me.
Pruhmeer 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🦅🦅🦅🦅
It infuriates me that British “people” spell gasses gases
@@goodlandschugs2727it infuriates me when Americans call a liquid “gas”
@@Buzzsaw.1103gas being short for gasoline, which is what the refined version of petroleum commonly used in cars is called. Conversely, petroleum makes no sense because your car doesn’t run off of fucking crude oil.
@@bigbluekraken1889 well maybe 'petrol' is short for 'refined petroleum'. Ever think about that, huh? 🤓
i love how amarican sports leagues has a almost comunist redistribution of wealth and players, and the European leagues are ultra capitalistic
All American clubs are privately owned. No one redistributes anything.
@@roni4138 they're talking about how TV rights revenues are distributed. American sports leagues tend to do very equal distribution, most European leagues reward the winners way more than the team finishing 15th. American leagues are very socialist in terms of making sure every team gets rewarded regardless of performance, whereas the European leagues tend to be very cutthroat in punishing teams that don't perform.
The prem is an outlier among European leagues for having relatively equal distribution of TV rights revenues, and it also hands out large parachute payments to relegated clubs.
@@awijaya2116 and the draft pick system, worst performing teams get better draft picks
Chelsea spent 1.3B just on player transfer fees (not including player salaries) in the space of 2 and a half years, and they finished 12th last year and will be lucky to get 11th this year
6th lol
@ToucanSam123 Won a trophy and are in a better European competition. Also insane to fire Poch after he finally got things clicking and the players were bought in. I wouldn't be surprised if some Chelsea players don't request to leave if they don't win a trophy or do great in the league this season
The Fullham-Chelsea game that ended 0-0 wasnt dissapointing. Because of the fact that chelsea is such a bigger club, on paper Chelsea should have destroyed fulham, and gained 3 points so fullham wouldve ended with 0 points. But for Fullham fans the match was a success, cause they got 1 point since they drew the match.
Tbf, the example in the beginning (Chelsea) shows that a lot of money doesn't win you anything. You still need players that can play well together and a manager with a strategy that fits the time. Current examples are Stuttgart in Germany and Girona in Spain, who over perform in every statistic without spending big money.
Girona are literally owned by the middle easterns
Americans complaining about the rich getting richer and praising the socialism of American sports is very funny
Mocking the Hillsborough disaster ?
How classy 👏
not classy at all, but lets not act like people dont joke about 9/11 and school shootings all the time either. relax
@@imzerohnot everyone is that insensitive, joking about something as serious as that is fucked up. Its you lot who are making 9/11 jokes😔
@@imzeroh yes people also joke about the death of civilians by the americans in the middle east😮 not classy at all
Chat saying "no" to question if the best players go to English league is just ridiculous, 75% of the best players in the world plays in England
19:00 dudes never heard of Balotelli 🤣🤣
Germany's 50+1 rule is actually super interesting and something many other leagues should adopt. Only club to skirt that is Lepzig
Wolfsburg, Leverkusen, Hoffenheim?
@@sebastiangoethe the owner of hoffenheim gave his shares back, so they fulfill 50+1.
8:35 On the other side, the alternative of giving everyone an equal share can end up with teams like the Oakland Athletics. Who have no incentive to do well cause they can just rely on the share of funds
Edit: 10:51 he mentioned this
This is also what franchising has done to the LCS - Every team except for maybe TL and C9 just sandbags because they don't actually have to invest in the team or their administration to make money. Which is part of the reason promotion and relegation is so great, except the top clubs in Europe are all so wealthy that relegation is next to impossible. Everton, mentioned in the beginning of the video, is one of the only traditionally wealthy clubs to be in danger of the drop in recent times. They have seriously overspent and underpreformed and are a bit of a meme within the football world.
Can't joke about hillsborough - very disrespectful
Tbf thats like us making fun of school shootings, it doesn’t mean much unless you are acutely aware of the people affected
You guys are some funny people man
@@n0body550 I wouldn't make fun of school shootings watching a video talking about a school shooting, the context really does matter, it's extremely poor from him.
As if you have never once made a 9/11 joke or something similar
@@lorcanzo2498thats only you lot, dont joke about any of it if you ask me
Almost stopped multiple times due to how annoying this guy is but finally stopped watching at the Hillsborough joke, even as a United fan I find that insanly gross.
Have respect.
Watching atrioc make jokes about the death of 100 people and then seconds later taking the moral highground by saying ”but hey racism is bad right?” feels so insincere
to be fair beans on toast is funny
if you remember this guys history you'd know hes not a good human lmao. could tell you that for free
making jokes about nearly 100 dead people who were then told it was their own fault in a coverup by the police and Tory government that lasted DECADES.
What do you expect from a guy who beats his meat to fake pornos of his friend’s girlfriend?
This guy kind of an ass for taking the piss out of the hillsborough disaster.
Agree
Mocking a disaster in which a lot of people died, saying it's hard to sympathize, and then taking the moral highground against racism. Unbelievable.
I never would have expected atrioc to laugh at my football club damn
I would argue part of the English Premiers leagues success is that it has multiple great clubs. LIke France Germany are dominated by 1 club each and Spain 2.
That was a great video by S-P.
Also Chelsea have more fans around the world than the nfl and it’s just one club
lmao your chat saying no to the prem having the best players is hilarious all they know is mbappe messi and ronaldo 😂
19:00 surely that will work, its not like manchester united has had a problem with players damaging their brand
The Australian Football League is probably the best example of the solution to this. Most of, if not all, the clubs are essentially owned by fan shareholders, who buy memberships that get them priority for tickets and such and elect the board members. This actually works financially for a few reasons:
-For the most part, The clubs don't own the huge stadiums, so they don't have to pay for the maintenance.
-Recruitment is all done through the league with the draft, so they have to be frugal and even with their spending on junior development, as they only get a priority to their own juniors in the draft, instead of automatically getting it. Teams also get draft picks based on performance, so the worst teams get the first picks of the juniors.
-There's also decent sized Salary caps, which prevents big spending on massive Talent.
-It's also a super niche sport only played here, so there's no bigger league to swipe the most valuable talent away with corrupt salaries. This IS the big league.
-All of the Profits go back into the clubs, since there's no Billionaire trying to turn a profit.
This has lead to the league being one of the most balanced sport's leagues in the world, with almost every club making an exciting run to the finals in the last decade or so.
in Italy the stadium grounds are owned by local municipalities, which leads to having some of the most dilapidated stadiums in the top 5 leagues. San Siro, one of the most iconic European stadiums, is incredibly worn down and old because teams don't want to invest in renovations if they don't own them outright. This is exacerbated by the economic disparity between north and south - Allianz stadium in Turin, one of Italy's most wealthy cities, is one of the very few "modern" Italian grounds.
Your first point is great if the local governments can afford state of the art infrastructure. If not, it takes away from ticket sales, fan engagement, and merchandising - poorer clubs will just fall farther and farther behind. Aus rules, as you mentioned, is a niche and homogeneous sport. Football in Europe spans so many cultures and economic zones that implementing rules that cross those gaps is very challenging. Not impossible, but very challenging. FIFA is corrupt as shit though, so that's not really helping much.
Germany's Bundesliga implements a fan-owned majority rule like you mentioned, which typically contributes to it being, generally, the most competitive top-5 league in Europe, though they still do have their giants in Bayern Munchen and Borussia Dortmund.
to add to this the a league is in a unique positions as one of the worst leagues to watch in terms of quality and entertainment
no promotion and relegation doesn’t help either
Statistically speaking the A-League is actually one of the most entertaining leagues to watch based on the amount of goaled scored on average in a game. Yes, I agree that they should be marketing a lot better and they have with already making an announcement that relegation and promotion will be added in the near future. They've really done all they can at this moment in time. @@lilbltxh
Then cloud 9 gave Astralis over a million for Esetag
Yes CC. You have the right approach, it’s hilarious they have spunked so much money, and they’re worse than they’ve ever been😂😂
The NFL really doesn't have a free rider problem the hard cap and floor are so close that every team is trying to win because you can't really save money not winning like in the MLB. Also it has no individual salary cap and no player is going to be close to the team cap like the NBA.
bro has never heard of the washington commanders lmao
Atrioc says premier league like mr.wonderfull says ice-scream
And brits say it without the r at the end🤣
@@Thisisadream17 They made the language, we can't tell them what's right
@@0xmoo well I just did. You can’t invent a letter and say it wrong☠️☠️☠️
@@Thisisadream17 It's impossible to invent something and it be "wrong"
@@0xmoo “Wotta Botle” “Alleyominum” yeah buddy carry on☠️
5:24 intrusive thoughts won
It's a stupid system to give more revenues to the top teams, unless you are the top teams and don't give a fuck. Kind of like capitalism, a few people get so rich they change the rules to suit thier interests at everyone elses expense.
11:04 The problem with the NFL is that it’s a version of Rugby played by a bunch of 🐈’s
Bro they're buying all of esports right now LMFAO Atrioc's out of touch
Channel is called Search Party
Hey Coffee what's with the lack of empathy with British people? Just curious?
Atrioc’s salary cap take is atrocious to hear. You can tell that almost the entire chat is against him too and he doubling down
This guy is big baby man typical American
1 minute of this guy was enough 🙄🤦♂️
"Either you have freeloaders or you have pay-to-win". False Anglo dichotomy. See 50+1 (supporter ownership).
the average american has the attention span of the stray dog i adopted...
"How do you get excited for a nil-nil draw?"
I guess their brains cant handle 30 seconds without someone getting a point or an ad playing
Even more ironic that the man fuelling chelsea with hundreds of millions is american...
shoulda stuck to handegg
Tbf, if you support the bigger club/country, then a 0-0 is usually very uninterested
0:40 atrioc talking without knowing literally anything is so stupid. Bro you ARENT BRITISHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU DONT KNOW AT ALL WHY ITS A BIG THING JUST WAIT TO HEAR THE COMMENTARY MATE YOU LITERALLY GOT PROVEN WRONG TWENTY SECONDS LATERRR
Sorry he a American doesnt all the facets of English Soccer in a third world country 😂.
@@WhenInDarknessSeekTheLight it's just he does it all the time🤣
If you had relegation in the NFL or Basketball teams would have to work to stay up.
the best gk cb rb dm cm rw st are all in the prem
This comment section is mean 🌻🌷🥰🦋💞 I understand why tho 💕😍🦄🌸
You still earns points for a draw bro
6:09 thank you for calling it out, as a brit it sickened me to see British hooligans beating Italian fans leaving the stadium after the lost the Euros in 2020
Your US franchises suck, they can change of cities when the GM want. In Europe we have clubs, it's completely different. Our city clubs have a football team, a basketball team, a volleyball team, etc... And we follow our clubs (not the players as US Sports fans) from father to son, it's a religion.
US fans don’t follow players for the most part. Sure, there are definitely LeBron fans that like whichever team LeBron is on, but this is a rare example. Also, certain teams aren’t allowed to move locations such as the Green Bay Packers
14k views 205k likes?
good to see deepfake guy learning about football
@5:25 LMAO
Chelsea won bcz of jose mourinho not the money
How did they get him?
@@diogo763true but is was not absurdly high
probably true considering how much money they spend and how dogshit they are atm
Mourinho: "Mr. Abramovich, pay, pay, don't speak."
"Englans is pulling ahead", only two will qualify to round of 16
In terms of money you dope
Huh? Why is this dude still on my feed lmao
Football (it's played with feet) unlike American throw and catch "foot"ball. Football is the biggest sport in the world.
I love soccer
I think you guys sound distasteful when you ignore that he apologised after he made that joke.
Love the europoor rage in the comments lmao
They get real heated
8 men own half the worlds wealth but you’re calling other people poor and twerking for them that’s crazyyy
"Europoor"... yeah. Take a look at inequality-adjusted HDI. Compare the average Western European to the average American :)
But maybe you prefer having a higher total because of the US having more billionaires while people literary don't have clean water in their pipes?
Europoor, and yet football players are richer than handegg... at least we have brains