Joe Rogan: "CAPTIVATED THE MINDS" Jon Bernthal Relives Working on The Walking Dead Season 1
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2022
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Joe Rogan and Jon Bernthal discuss the early days of AMC's breakout show, The Walking Dead. I personally remember it fondly from Season 1 and Jon really shows why the earlier seasons of that show were much more special.
Jon Bernthal is an actor known for such roles as Sheriff's Deputy Shane Walsh in "The Walking Dead," vigilante Frank Castle in "The Punisher," and more recently, corrupt cop Wayne Jenkins in HBO's miniseries, "We Own This City." Bernthal is also the host of the weekly interview podcast series "REAL ONES with Jon Bernthal."
Clip taken from JRE #1916 w/ Jon Bernthal
Host: Joe Rogan @joerogan
Guest: Jon Benthal
Producer: Jamie Vernon @jamievernon
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Jon’s interviews with the Ukrainian sniper are wild. Hunt them down. The guy breaks from combat and calls in.
Jon Bernthal played Shane so well that every season after his death I would constantly be wondering "What would Shane have done in this situation?"
The Governor is lucky he never met Shane
I thought of this too! Had Rick and Shane sorted things out, moved on to the Prison and they meet The Governor, Shane would’ve done so much damage to that man.
yeah literally every villain I was just thinking about what shane would do. He didn't last very long but he made a massive impact
lol I thought I was the only one
What was great about his character, is that in his death, and essentially forcing Rick to kill him, that made Rick the ruthless character he would become. All Rick's weaknesses in the first 2 seasons...leaving the camp to rescue Merle, the futile search for Sophia, not killing the barn walkers, and not killing Randall..were exposed by Shane.
Durring the part where the governor meets his "new family" I though he might have a redemption ark but nope he is still a phyco paths. URG!!! why did Hershal have to die that way 😔
My dad suffers from severe clinical depression. I was not able to really form a connection with him most of my childhood. However, in 2013 he asked if I would watch this zombie show with him. I did and we were hooked on TWD for YEARS. It helped bring us together after years of not being able to relate. Thank you so. so much for that. It means the world to me.
That’s truly beautiful. I’m glad you and your father have a better relationship now.
I am happy for you and your Dad. Thank you for sharing!!
@SoWokedamn brotha. How are you doing today? I went through a bad breakup back in 2011. I was severely depressed for 2.5 years. Dreams took me back to what I wanted. Then I’d wake up in reality. Ended up hating dreams haha. I remember the day I finally got over it. I was surfing. I told myself.”bro I love you” that night I didn’t have dreams of her. And it kept getting better and better
That's a awesome story.
Very cool..
Him and Rick were absolute gold in walking dead, two great actors hitting their peak 💪🏻
Season 1&2 was epic. Without a doubt peak TWD. Season 3&4 was great too with Governor then it went downhill from there.
@@jonfreeman9682 disagree Negan and that era was wonderful some of the best seasons of TWD ever
@@autismmode1663 ehh.
@@jonfreeman9682 neegan era was the best
Seasons 1-6 and Season 9 were peak Walking Dead. Also Lennie James portrayal of Morgan Jones is a legendary performance as well
This man crushed it as the Punisher. Need him back with a great director
He will be back probably with the Midnight Suns
Shane - twd
Great actor man, he was awesome as the meth head gang member in that prison movie, great in every role he takes. In person he was very chill to me and my friends the night we were at the same party.
Disney needs to figure how to handle adult Marvel shows
They handled the Netflix shows well. They got it figured out. Disney owned marvel when they did those
If Shane could have protected Lori and Carl without falling for Lori he would have absolutely owned the walking dead world. He adapted to the new world before the other people realized they even needed too.
I think Shane was a better choice for Lori- he was willing to do anything to keep her and Carl safe! I loved the character of Rick- but Shane was just more complex….
@Dee Spence shane had too many flaws and was slowly losing his mind, it would of been a matter of time before he turned Lori and Carl
Yeah he lost touch with humanity too quickly. Rick, (yes it took him awhile to get there), at least held on to the small bit of humanity he had left in him.
Reminds me of Sampson and Delilah in the Bible.
@@deespence8629 complete nonsense
That TWD episode where Shane opens the barn is easily one of my favorite scenes in any movie or show ever. Great job to the whole TWD cast there.
Yes. That changed the whole plot lol. Sophia was revealed too
Agreed that was such a huge shocker with Sophia! Especially having read the comics.
Jon Bernthal is a phenomenal actor. You can tell he gives it his all with whatever role he's in. So respectful and humble.
Absolutely. Love how he tells nobody wanted TWD and even HBO AMC rejected it at first as they shopped around and they managed to get funding for a 6 episode trial just bunch of guys feeling grateful for 6 measly episodes and it was a hit thanks to Frank Darabont who was persistent in the project. Just a great story.
@@jonfreeman9682 right on. I think Darabont did an amazing thing with that cast/crew but I often wonder what the show would have become if HBO did pick it up back then. Maybe it wouldn’t have lost its way or even ended after 6-8 seasons
How so?
Shane is one of the best characters of all time, the best part of season 2 by far.
And Shane proved to be right about things. The later seasons proved that
Wait wym, what were Shane right about ?
@@rener7940 he’s not right about everything but he was right about things never going back to what they where and it’s kill or be killed now
the fact that Jon wasn't nominated for an emmy for the 'barnaggedon' episode alone shows how much is wrong with award shows. that performance was next level.
@@rener7940 did you watch the show? Rick was too touchy feely. Shane had warned him. Shane made it clear that a hard kill or be killed mentality was needed. If Shane had been alive when they crossed paths with Negan things would have played out differently. Rick was weak and useless
Those first 4 seasons of The Walking Dead was top tier television for me. While there were definitely good moments in the rest of the show, seasons 1-4 had me in a chokehold as it was airing.
Totally agree. Season 1&2 are the best then 3&4 with the Governor. The reason why it's so good is because of a small cast and simple story before they built it up to such a large cast and complex stories like Negan and whisperer and Commonwealth. The early seasons felt more personal.
Mannnn I definitely agree with this , I love great television . The walking dead season 1-2 was fucking awesome and Shane was a beat of a actor and 3-4 the governor was ruthless I love it after that it went down hill for me and I stop watching unfortunately it lost it’s originality and I stepped away but Shane was the best
I loved it the first 4 seasons but after that I lost interest went too long and drawn out
Absolutely. Seasons 1 and 2 were peak, must-see television. Seasons 3 and 4 were still great and really engaging. However, over the next few years from S5 to S8, the show went from great, to good, to just meh.
Starting with S5 or S6 writing and many characters became kinda cringe, thinly-veiled woke themes and political messaging started to emerge, plot armor for certain characters, ridiculous over-the-top scenes that asked the audience to suspend too much disbelief and broke the show’s setting and tone, democratizing the narrative direction of the show and characters actions by blatantly pandering for fan approval via Talking Dead (like when they announced that Morgan would be leaving TWD and moving to FTWD on a talk show before SHOWING this on screen), etc.
I hung around until the resolution of Negan’s initial arc, but my interest and engagement with the show had been in free fall for at least a season or two before I stopped watching. I have no interest whatsoever in watching the final 3 seasons.
@@SSPspaz lol u did much better than I thought I didn't go past 4 I'm like this is not the walking dead we came accustomed to Loving over the years, I was like man this is becoming trash I tried but couldn't get through when I think of the walking dead I think of the first 4 seasons that's all
The barn scene was that I gave Jon a lot of respect. After seeing him in Fury, Sicario etc, he’s a great actor and has a bright future
Seems like a relatable guy. Just a cool bro.
A great actor. Was awesome as Shane and is top 3 villains in TWD. He deserves bigger roles.
@@jonfreeman9682 he was and wasn't a villain. He didn't agree with the group because he was ahead of them mentally for an apocalypse. Like Rick saying "I give you my word that's all we have left in this world is a man word" then bullet to their head even when they're working together for the benefit of them. Also as Dale said about Shane "you were built for this world"
If Shane is a Villain then so is Rick 🤷♂️
cant forget punisher!
@@Grimy_Aaronarr funny how everyone eventually became monsters like Shane was. Shane was ahead of the curve. His love for Lori was crazy but then again, they thought Rick was dead
A lot of people don't remember the first season was promoted as a "Halloween special" on AMC. When it was picked up for season 2 I was ecstatic.
Yep I clearly remember that too!
@@KrikZ32 I came home early from trick or treating because I filled my pillowcase with candy and it got too heavy to carry. I was watching Dawn of the Dead and was in the mood for another zombie movie. Then The Walking Dead started and I checked the information and it said TV series. I remember thinking word for word "They finally made a tv show about zombies? I have to watch this." and I watched season 1 ep 1 live on tv. I didnt even know when the next episode was so i recorded the series on my dvr and checked every night to see when ep 2 was recorded. I was hooked for life after that.
I vividly remember watching promos for it at Six Flags back in like 2010
@@jeffpraterJSF that was what captivated everyone into watching this show tbh. I remember all of my friends telling me there’s finally a realistic show about zombies. And those early seasons were really something to remember.
Shame it only had 2 good seasons in it..
If they didn’t fire Frank Darabont the show would have stayed good.
Man I wish they would have him on to tell his side of what happened behind the scenes with amc. You can search some of the emails he sent but I think it was partly bc he was fed up with how the network kept on screwing them all. Eventhough it might have made him out to be a jerk everyone who has history working alongside including Bernthal says that they very much admire the guy bc he has a passion and ultimately respect for his craft. Amc however is the total opposite so its no wonder he got canned
What the AMC executives did to Frank Darabont was really disgusting
Amen
Fun fact: it DID stay good. (But I love Darabont and it was sad how the studio screwed him over)
@@bobbyadams8889 not only that but its borderline criminal what they did pretty much stealing the show right from him as he was mainly responsible for bringing the comics to life in living colour lol. However they didn't give a shit and had wanted all the profit for themselves spending as little as possible. At least he took them to court over this which they ended up paying out 200 mill so I guess you could say he got the last laugh before everything was said and done
My family and I would religious watch The Walking Dead for years every Sunday it was like clockwork, it was such a great time in my life and I thank Jon and all the cast for such a great show and awesome memories
Lol huberty puberty
Oh yeah those were the days before streaming we would anxiously wait for the next episode each week. Fun times. LoL
We used to do the same thing! Finished season 8 and then we stopped watching for some reason lol but it was our fav day of the week
Proof?
@@stanknugget the proof is in the pudding
Jon Bernthal has to be the best interview I've seen on JRE in a long long long time. You can tell Joe knows it and is being MUCH more reserved and slow. He is seeing someone being 100% and open and who has been through some real experiences and is taking away true wisdom from it. I'm blown away.
Just wish he did stutter thorough things so much. Makes it hard to listen to. And he is a professional podcaster.
@@bradley617 He can't help it tho. He's been open about his huge stutter / anxiety disorders. The fact that he can act so well despite these AND has gotten so much better in recent years attests to his character.
It is a really good interview for Joe because he isn't interrupting him and just listening.
Me and my dad started this show in 2012. We just finished watching the show together. Thank you TWD ❤. The best years of my life Fr. What a time.
Same, my dad and I started watching in 2012. We would watch it every Sunday every year for 10 years. I am an adult now and live on my own but would still come over each Sunday for TWD and dinner. It feels like more than just losing a show when you have such a memory attached to it.
Proof?
@@juliaw5881 100%. I was 12 when I started watching the show back in 2012, I started watching after season 2 wrapped up, and me and my dad for the last 11 years have always watched twd, I did the same thing! I moved out as well, I’m 22 years old now, and I still would go drive out to his house on Monday’s to watch twd with the family. It definitely feels like losing much more than just a show, because of the memories you have made watching with your loved ones through the years, the walking dead will always be attached to me and my family memories, as my entire family loves this show. I wanna go back and relive so bad! Haha.
@@juliaw5881 the memories will live on forever tho. ♥️🫶🏻
Sorry the last season sucked butt balls
Loved seeing Jon as The Punisher. Really wish that show was still going.
He’s returning in Daredevil Born again
this man played Shane so well he still gets mentioned today as one of the best characters
I remember watching Walking Dead with my wife and she hated Shane as a character. I secretly loved him he was my favorite character. Everyone was trying to grasp onto the past while Shane fully embraced the Anarchy that was their reality now. Not only did he embrace it but he thrived
Secretly, that's the answer bit. Why was you afraid to say it.
What made him such a great character is he wasn't a bad guy. He saved Rick's life in the hospital and saved the wifey and kid. Then he got into a relationship with wifey both thinking he was dead. But Shane had dark side and killed when necessary.
He was ahead of the curve
@@jonfreeman9682 yeah I guess fucking your best friends wife shortly after he dies isn't morally questionable at all
When you truly hate a character, the actor did his job amazingly.
What a lovely, interesting & intelligent man. It’s amazing how he took that potentially life breaking moment & CHOSE to turn it into a life changing moment to grow from.
He killed someone, you moron. However you want to spin the narrative, he’s not a lovely person 😂
Life can change on a dime.
I needed to hear this right now 😢😢 I’m in a point in my life where I have failed miserably and trying to dig myself out of a hole I put myself into. This inspires me to stop quitting and push forward because I’m not alone in my struggles. Thank you. Stay safe and keep healthy everyone ✊✊
Seek first the kingdom of god. Everything else will follow suit.
I've been there...bro keep PUSHING. There IS light at the end....inbox me and I will listen and talk if u need. Thats my WORD!
we all fail, as long as u learn from ur mistakes.. i been there, maybe still there, but you got this shit man. "one day at a time"
Many of us are right there with you bro.
Keep on keepin on.
I'm right there with you bro, keep going!!!
I remember seeing Bernthal in The Pacific and being impressed. Then I saw him in TWD. Then after he was off that he started appearing in all kinds of stuff. It was great, he makes characters interesting to watch. Its a surprisingly rare talent in Hollywood.
1:50 I am always impressed by how people with very prominent stutters are able to become such great and convincing actors. Him, James Earl Jones, Matt Mercer apparently had one... I dunno how they overcome it while performing, but it really is a whole other person.
Wtf I didn't know he had a stutter
@@rickyeska1 Right?? You'd never guess it seeing his roles.
@@Lunarcheese72 I never knew he had a speech impediment, I have one too so he's on my radar now
You can stutter without being a "stutterer" everyone occasionally stutters
@@tobe1207 the dude clearly has a stutter lol.
Season 1 and 2 were the only seasons where the characters felt like real people
Rick in Season 9 feels far more real than in S1.
Watching S1 and S2 feels like watching Reallity TV! The acting , even secondary characters, was amazing!
Nah, there's been great acting and Characters all the way through.
@@johnyd1911 People who think the show is still good hitting that copium. I'm a long time term viewer and I always want to finish shows I watch, but could not do this for TWD. It's just awful.
@@wetnoodlex Your opinion is invalid if you didn’t finish the show.
He did an incredible job on FURY! What a character he played…he was totally immersed in it, you could barely recognize him. Great actor.
I remember sitting in the basement at one of my friends house every Sunday to watch the first few seasons of the walking dead, frank darabont created something that connected with everyone so deep beyond basic television it was inane. Shane and Rick ( Jon and Andy ) brought to LIFE the characters and so did the rest of the cast. This was the Perfect casting for these roles. They created memories I will remember forever. Even though things took a turn eventually turning it over to mrs.Kang, she did what she could with what was left. I hope 2023 brings back maybe even a flash back of mr Shane Walsh! 😁😄 appreciate everything you did for those memories mr. Bernthal ! Don’t understand how much it means to me!
The first seasons it was incredible
What?
I love it when the stuttering ends when he's passionate about his art, love to see his soul out there you can see thr sharpness of his mind, dream on guys and aspire and do not envy, cheers all happy 2023
It's simple, but I needed to hear that right now. I'm really close to depression right now, hate my job, hate my daily situation, but it's all to lead me to something great. I should remind me the goal everyday.
I love listening to truly good people really talking.
Stg
Jon is one of the most likeable guys that always plays a role you're not supposed to like. It speaks to his amazing talent.
Still get actor BS vibes from him. That story of him running to help a woman in Russia and the guy putting a gun to his forehead sounded like something he wrote in a script
I remember having just turned ten yrs old. For context, I was into horror movies and just about everything since I could watch full movies. I remember my mom and I watching the preview days before the first episode of TWD. The hype was unreal. Didn’t even care that I had to stop trick r treating earlier than usual. The whole family was hooked immediately except my little brother. Took him a few more years. One of the best halloweens I’ve had. Thank you Jon for those first couple seasons. Wish we could’ve seen more of Shane.
Much love for all you guys have done for me and all the great warnings and examples you have set for me ❤️
I stayed captivated all the way through to season 11. Never got old to me. Also loved most of Fear. Especially the first three seasons and season 7. World Beyond wasn’t my favorite with the kid actors but I loved getting more story from the rest of the country and the CRM
But you gotta admit the show kinda fell off with season 7-8 and never really felt the same after.
Yeah I'm a die-hard TWD and Fear fan too. Couldn't get into beyond as it's a kids show. TWD lost alot of fans after season 7 and have been on life support but true zombie fans like us will always tune in. IMO Shane and the Governor are top two greatest villains. Negan is third. What made all 3 such great villains is they're not all bad. Lance was another great villain but they didn't do him justice with such a lame death and arguably he is the most complex villain because you don't understand how motivation at all. LoL
Didn't really catch on to Fear, but watched season 7 recently because for some reason its the only one on AMC+. The first episode of Season 7 is so badass and kind of works as a standalone story. I took a break from main series to grieve for characters but when I picked it back up knowing the whisperers were looming and seeing equally nasty threats arise those final seasons was really something. So glad this has become a universe of content. Excited to see whats next and to watch the spinoffs. The show isn't over in my mind its just branching into new paths.
@@see.eye.2361 Falls off in Season 7-8 and revives in S9
@@see.eye.2361 not at all, the war with the saviors was the best era of the series for me. And then soon after we get the creepiest villain yet with Alpha.
I’m especially excited to see NYC in the Negan and Maggie spin-off.
It's incredible that Bernthal is so down to earth and so legit, yet he can rock out the character Frank Castle. Once again, Bernthal shows that what people (not just fans) want is a true genuineness, even from actors.
I AM GLAD I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS VIDEO AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH AND LISTEN THEIR INTERVIEW/DISCUSSION.UP UNTIL NOW ; BECAUSE I HAD ONLY EVER SEEN JON BERNTHAL,""the actor" AND NEVER AS HIMSELF, IN AN INTERVIEW., I WAS NOT A FAN. HE REALLY COMES ACROSS AS SUCH A SINCERE,GENUINE , AUTHENTIC INDIVIDUAL, AS WELL AS BEING INTENSE AND VERY PASSIONATE , ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HIS CRAFT AND WHATEVER HE DECIDES TO GET INVOLVED IN AND DO. HE ALSO SEEMS TO BE A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND HAVE ALOT OF RESPECT , APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE IN GENERAL , ESPECIALLY WHEN TALKING ABOUT; FELLOW ACTORS AND PEOPLE HE CONSIDERS FRIENDS.
Jon is amazing at life not just acting I love the new version of him with his podcast and this is a great Rohan episode.. both of these men deserve more than just their flowers they are both great people and inspiring
Jon Bernthal's Shane was one of the best things in the show, love the conflict between Rick and Shane.
The episode where Shane got off'd really had an effect on me... the moonlit field, the heavy fog, just Rick and Shane.. powerful stuff. I knew he had to go, it was his time... but that didn't mean I had to like it
This guy was one of the character that got me into the show. I wish he went longer season but may be the shortened role is perfect for his character!
Jon is such a great dude. His appearance in Hot Ones really made me like him as a person.
This guy is as real as it gets. Mad respect for Jon
Proof?
Loved the first 6 seasons. Man this show was so big.
Bernthal seems like a really great guy. Seems like perspective and a lot of thought led to him really making the most of his life and opportunities. Glad he made that choice and hope others see the way like he did.
The first I remember seeing Jon was in a short lived sitcom called The Class. He was a better actor than nearly the entire cast. Glad he has done well.
I always wondered how Shane would have dealt with The Governor, The Termites, Negan and Alpha.
You don’t need to wonder anymore. Robert Kirkman has gone on record saying Shane would’ve lost to The Governor.
Seeing Jon come back for Rick’s so called *last episode* was incredible. I binged TWD when it was already 4 seasons in. My big bro was a day 1 viewer. I was late to the party. 🤦🏻♂️😂
Those early seasons were great. I can admit I was feeling burnt out after the whole Alpa/Beta arch of the show. I was 3, maybe 4 episodes into the final season, n I checked out. I had too. Maybe I’ll come back to it, since I know some spinoffs r otw, but idk tbh. As I’m writing this, I want to wish everyone a Happy New Year. I’m a few glasses of champagne n a Corona in as I’m writing this, so bare w/ me. 🥳😂👏🏼
I never liked Bernthal until these kinds of intimate conversations and watching his own channel.
Hes a good person which trumps his acting career.
God bless him.
Do a movie with the Fury cast. You guys were like a family. The dialogues felt so real.
Much respect
I don't know if many remember, but back then there was a huge zombie craze World War Z had come out, many games where zombie related too.
This show came at the perfect time, and it just caught fire.
Its nice to hear they all enjoyed it, you could see it in there performances.
Proof?
@@stanknugget uuuh yeah look at the mid 2000s....
The first three seasons of The Walking Dead...incredible!!! The end of season 3 tied up so many storylines.
Proof?
Thanks Joe for bringing my hometown guy, and an awesome dude who inspires so many on your show!!!!
season 1 and season 2 were incredible. After season 6 I think it was really just rinse and repeat
Season 9 was a bit better than 7 and 8 like season 9 felt new and different season 7 and 8 felt like it was the same thing and it was slow but season 9 step it up a bit.
Killing Carl was genuinely the one thing that ruined the show for me. “Killing” Rick was the nail in the coffin.
@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 agree they shouldn’t have kill Carl I sort of understand for rick because of the actor and want to be with his family but Carl that was crossing the line he could of been the new leader when Rick left.
Stayed incredible all the way through. Especially Negan’s arc
@@jackmarshall3255 He didn't want to be with his family he complained about his shitty pay and they fired his ass as a threat to the other actors
The Punisher.. Awesome.
I've enjoyed Jon's work in everything I've seen him in. He always gives his all and makes every performance memorable, believable and "real" for that character. Wish him much and continued success.
scusa se ti disturbo.puoi aiutarmi a trovare solo le stagioni dove jon partecipa?le stagioni e gli episodi sono tante e scaricare tutto è complicato!grazie se mi rispondi e anche se non lo fai
Damn...I've been waiting for this one!
I remember on the TWD there were so many times when Rick and the team feel in some crazy shit, I was like "Damn if Shane was here, he would change the tide!" As unstable as Shane was, he was a force. Especially when up against The Governor and Negan, I'm like Shane would drop these villains! Awesome actor. I'm looking forward to his evolution in film.
After listening tot his podacst, Jon Bertnthal on TWD might be the best-casted actor ins TV history. His entire life lead up to this. Wild to hear him talk so honestly. Gratitude is key so a successful life. Jocko needs to interview Jon one day. This interview gave me legit chills.
I also exaggerate when high
@@thegodpotato132 lmao... one thing that hot takes on the Internet will never do; cease to amuse me. The absolute authority people give their opinions is true comedy.
I’m glad I didn’t see two comments reiterating that nonsense
His character in Fury was also good
The seasons of Walking dead with Shane, is some of my all time favorite television ever. Jon really brought that character to life, and I don't think it would've been as good as it was, if anyone else got the part of Shane. Jon is one of my favorite actors ever, because he's so good at bringing each character he plays, to life. Shane is my favorite character, so much that after he died, I would always wonder how he would approach certain situations that the group found themselves in.
I love this actor he is as real as it comes and he played one the most amazing roles as punisher!
Twd- Shane
His war-grunts in The Punisher made me shiver. He crushed that role.
I remember stumbling onto TWD during it's first season around 2009-2010. It had everyone hooked. I was hooked, the girl I was dating at that time was hooked(which surprised me, wasn't the type to like blood and gore), it was all the world was talking about. That first season is a masterclass in television. It is exactly the zombie show I always wanted to see made. A show that focuses less on the zombies themselves, but puts that attention on the humans, the lengths they'll goto, the loss and pain, all of that stuff. It was so god damn good.
Season 1 is a masterpiece!
She probably liked it for Daryl 😜
Proof?
Always love his performances and love hearing him talk
Honestly is episode is prolly one of the best ones joe has ever had on JRE And that's saying alot because he has done so many great interviews but Jon is the fucking man. Such a class act person and a man who just says it how it is and admits his own faults and owns up to them and learns and betters himself from them. He has become one of my favorite actors recently dude is the man. Keep up the good work Joe.
Proof?
I always wondered what would have happened if they kept Shane alive to meet Negan.
Season 2 of the Walking Dead is my favorite. There's that special kind of magic that he talks about here, there's a palpable sense of strong passion and a hungriness, stubborness, a true survival kind of attitude that's felt from the crew. That season was butchered by interference and budget cuts but it WORKS SOMEHOW. Darabont and Co. are true artists and survivors.
John & Ben in The Accountant were amazing together
Joe: I stopped watching
Jon: Me too
🥲
Jon Bernthal was legendary in TWD. Shane still is and will always be my favorite character not only because of Bernthal’s performance, but because of how well written Shane was and how he wasn’t perfect, but was what the group needed.
He was brilliant and was an antihero. He was a good guy but had a dark side and was Rick's BFF and their standoff at the end of season 2 was epic complete with the zombie swarm. I think season 2 and 3 with the Governor are the best. Along with season 4 when the Governor returns. Shane deserved another season at least. I'm rooting for him to get a huge role in another show.
I really think people give Shane as a character too much credit. I do see lots of people say he was "what the group needed". He wasn't a good person.
He happily would have sacrificed any one of the group if it meant saving his own skin or Carl/Lori. And when it came down to him or them, he'd probably leave them too. Sure he was ahead of the curb in a lot of ways but he didn't care about anything besides his own interests. If Daryl or Glen or Rick was injured with him on that trip instead of Otis, they'd get the bullet too.
But don't get me wrong, he was a GREAT character but because he was the bad guy, especially in the second season.
Season 2 was brilliant, one of the best seasons of any show in TV history, period.
Horrendous take
Hands down the best season. First two seasons are the best then 3&4. Shane and the Governor were the best villains. It would be cool if Shane stayed with Rick as buddy buddy thru a few more seasons fighting together.
Season 1 is better in my opinion
@@extremelyonline I respect that, and I definitely agree that season 1 was great also. For me, something about season 2 raised the bar a notch on an already great show. It went from being a "zombie show" in S1 to a "human show featuring zombies" in S2, and I became much more personally invested in the characters themselves.
@@jt-ff3yx Interesting as I saw it was a human show in the very first Episode.
Morgan with his wife and kid.
Rick going back to end the suffering of the bicycle lady in the park.
Caught me in the feels right from the start all the way to the last episode with what happened to Rosita...
As someone who loves TWD it was fantastic hearing Jon's perspective on it. Very well said
Man, I remember coming home from college every Monday (I live in the UK so couldn't watch it on Sunday) and being so excited to watch TWD particularly Season 2 and 3. I always felt bad because Shane was supposed to be the bad guy but I found myself agreeing with him a lot of the time. Eventually my dad got into it as well and we watched right up until Rick left and then just kinda stopped, too many of the cast we loved were gone and I think it should have ended by then anyway. Still, so many good memories from that show.
I find it really true what some showrunner said. "A show reaches season 7 and if you aren't finishing it up the show will implode on itself."
and with TWD whoever said it was dead on accurate.
Luckily with TWD that doesn’t apply. The whole show is great from beginning to end.
@@Ruleof2Review everyone has their own opinions. I've met people who love season 2. Which I only liked because of the tension between Rick and Shane other than that I didn't care for it.
I have watched every episode of The walking dead. I know a lot of people quit watching when Negan showed up. They definitely f***** up there and went too far with the gore on the lineup scene. And the Negan Arc went on too long. But honestly it was still a great show after that, most people should give the later seasons a chance. The whispers Arc was amazing. I thought the last season was fairly meh but the whisperer arc alone is worth watching the later seasons for.
It was dead after season 4-
I don't think the show truly fell off until after season 6. I love The walking Dead.
I mostly agree. Season 5 was the last season I watched and genuinely enjoyed. I think I just completely stopped watching at some point during season 6.
But to Jon’s and Joes point there was something special about the first 1 or 2 seasons.
It was still good for a little while longer but the decline had already started.
Similarly to season 5 and maybe 6 of game of thrones.
Still enjoyable but the downfall was inevitable and it was coming fast.
@@AJ-gk7bn ever since they went to Alexandria, the show turned to complete utter shit
@@AJ-gk7bnseason 8 of Thrones especially the finale was just horrid. 7 had issues but I still thought it was close to peak.
Finally I have learned Jon Bernthal's name. Such an awesome actor in movies like The Accountant, Sweet Virginia, Fury.. Thank you for posting this.
Check out "Small Engine Repair". Pretty dope movie that has a nice twist
@@RustCole01 thank you.
@@PeterKertesz2013 No problem. That chick from Ozark is in it too. Rachel, the one who owns the Blue Cat
Best Interview this year!
I hear your take on the latter seasons not being as good, however, I just so loved all of them. If you just give in you can really get behind the stories.
Same here, like them all.
The best acting in TWD was delivered by this guy in Season 2 Episode 7.
It was good but Andrew Lincoln in the first episode of Season 7 was Award winning material. Such a shame he wasn't even nominated for anything.
@@johnyd1911 The infamous last good episode of TWD. RIP TWD 2010-2016.
This is like my dream conversation I would just be speechless if I met Bernthal he was so good in the movie Snitch too
Why is he still coming !!! Iconic moment on the show
Glad Jon said what he said about Shane nothing was wrong with Shane other than he was a man born before his time he was what the characters had to become in the later seasons
I’m sorry trying to kill your best friend/brother and take his wife (after you found out he was indeed still alive) Is weird!
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH also lied to Lori that he died when he basically left him to die. He had to but wow what a guess.
@@miklovv I don’t think he left him to die. He did what he could in a really precarious situation. He wouldn’t have been able to take him (like he tried to) because Rick was hooked up to IVs and monitors and machines and Shane didn’t and wouldn’t know what would be detrimental to Ricks health if removed or disconnected. So he did what he could. And I agree with that. He even tried to barricade the door to protect him. I believe after a while he GENUINELY believed Rick was gone and he wasn’t necessarily wrong to think that. And naturally he told Lori that and they genuinely believed he was gone.
It’s all the other subsequent stuff after that that make Shane a scumbag and really weird.
He began to treat people really weird and did REALLY questionable and just downright irrational and wrong/evil things.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH ik bro that's what I said
@@miklovv sorry I misread what you wrote.
Jon goes straight into the top 5 of best guests that Joe has had on his podcast. His story really hit home with me.
Proof?
I cant help but think of this guy as the legendary tanker he played in fury. Even tho hes more known for his part in walking dead
What is that?!?!? lol Shane seeing the walkers on a leash
Maaaaaaaan HOW MANY shows, how many have we lost to lazy writing near end? Countless....... Lost, GOT, Walking Dead, the list is huge.....
I honestly think the money is an issue as it runs out, OR they have so much from success network tells them to make more seasons and they rich af and NOT as passionate as when they were broke essentially.....
Don’t forget Dexter..
Darabont was fired from TWD because AMC wanted to spend 50% per episode and churn out 2x the episodes. Kinda speaks for itself.
The show-runners for GOT where in over their heads, they intentionally made it harder on themselves by refusing to hire a writing staff. In hindsight it’s actually astonishing that Game of thrones worked as long as it did, had D&D been more experienced and organized from the onset the show would’ve stayed strong to the very end.
Breaking Bad was the only highly successful and critically acclaimed show that had a good ending. Can't think of much else. Better Call Saul was great too.
And people start climbing the ladder and attaining power and hire all their worthless friends. That's a ton of what I see in the world anyway, could be the same.
Acting has become more and more interesting to me. Loved this show and Shane was def a favorite
I stuck with TWD from the first episode to the last. I have no regrets. I know a lot of people dropped off and I don't blame them, but the last few seasons were so good. Shane's character is still one of the most memorable characters in the entire show despite only being in a small part of it.
Proof?
The first episode I saw of The Walking Dead was the first Shane fight scene between him and Rick. Had to binge after that!
I began watching the TWD in 2011 by watching the watching the first season then watching the opening episode of Season 2. The first four seasons is some of the best television that aired. Jon Bernthal performance as Shane Walsh made become a fan of his acting and I’m happy that he became the Punisher in the MCU Netflix!
The first 4 season of walking dead were so good
First 5 . Season 5 hit its peak for most tuned in viewers. Rick finally became Shane in season 5 and was ruthless and terrifying af. Season was very dark and rick was constantly on the go out in the woods killing the dead and people like the show shoukd ne with not staying at a community for too long . And rick was at peoples throats and slaughtering cannibals in a dam church . At the end of season 5 once they came to Alexandria then it immediately went downhill for the show going forward as stuff got dragged out and etc
@@CHRISTALGIAUgh Alexandria was Just garbage. People shit in the farm but it was about 10 episodes meanwhile the prison and Alexandria were 2+ seasons.
Season 1-6 TWD were amazing! Shane was an outstanding character
I’ve been re watching twd and I see this on RUclips man love it
Really wish Joe would’ve asked him about filming the punisher and wolf of Wall Street would’ve been nice to hear some stories
He is also one of the best Punishers since Ray Stevenson.
If Frank was allowed to do the show in his vision, would’ve been spectacular. I watched it to the end.
Man, in another world, we have a five-to-seven-season run of Darabont's TWD that is probably responsible for legitimizing genre television like GOT.
@@SaddenedSoul I mean, length wasn’t the issue. TWD is based off a comic series. Even franks twd would still be long. Hell, season 1 only covers 6 issues in a 200 issue comic
Jon’s passion , his personality, his whole story and goal is inspirational. His punisher character shits on a lot of top tier marvel characters
After seeing John In twd. Then wind river, wolf of Wallstreet, fury...quickly became an actor I looked forward to watching. And such a seemingly humble dude.
TWD is definitely not murder porn. Yes a lot of death happens, but majority of the deaths are meaningful, it hits hard. Most Hollywood films and Tv shows just blow people away and we think nothing of it. Most action films just blow away 20 random red shirts in one scene just because. That's murder porn. TWD is a show on what humanity would do in extreme situations and most of the deaths are taken seriously.
fr. the finale even proves that it isnt murder porn. they couldve killed a lot of characters for no reason. it was expected by fans that a lot of ppl would die because so many other more violent shows would do that for their last episode. but they only killed 3 characters. 2 nobodies and 1 big death that was well done and not at all gory.
People who never watched past Glenn say this kind of thing.
Yeah I don’t agree with Joe. He’s buggin
Agreed, joe doesn’t have a right to talk about TWD when gave up early and has a short attention span
This guy gives me young Grant Cardone energy 😂
The Walking Dead man omfg this show has a special place in my heart. Fucking great actors man the show is different, great interview!!