I think the main reason Shinji shows attraction to Kaworu but not other guys is the same reason why he mainly shows attractions to females he seems to be well acquainted with. Simply put: Shinji is more attracted to people he has SOME emotional connection with at the very least, even if they're kind of toxic like Asuka.
He’s not homosexual, I don’t think he’s bisexual. He “loved” Kaworu because he loves anyone who shows affection towards him. To Shinji, other people are just a means to an end; he lacks love for himself, he HATES himself, and other people exist to comfort him since he can’t comfort himself. He loves anyone who comforts him. Like that scene when Misato tried to molest him in NGE, he rejected her ONLY because he could tell that she wasn’t trying to comfort him, she was trying to comfort herself. You know he would have gobbled up that opportunity otherwise, but he sees people as “things” that make him feel better about himself. And Misato wasn’t actually there to comfort him.
Stupid mean if shinji doesn't a bisexual is he straight 🤢🤮🫵 you she what shinji doing with asuka body so you don't thinki shinji not a bisexual sutpid idiot what a stupud mean ha shinji say with misato i love him is word love boy 😂@@lillen3
i think he's bi, he felt that someone loved him for once but if he didn't like men he would've just been glad but not develop any feelings for Kaworu, he's even deeply heartbroken after his death and even says 'he loved me' to Misato.. a part from that, we can see the analogy of Kaworu being Adan and symbolizing manhood, father, manly figure, which makes sense since he's been neglected by his own father.. there's a moment where Shinji felt a subtle love gesture from his father when he said to him good job. It's kind of cliché but not having a father(nor mother figure) present marks deeply someone's soul.. that doesn't mean he is bi because of that, but it adds more to how he feels towards men as a whole. You can even tell he blushed when Kaji pranked on kissing him.. And lastly, he sees the gigant ghost of Kaworu and Rei morphing together, they both represent the mix between lilith and adam and it's to me a representation of men and women and two people who have shown appreciation, caring (Rei is literally his mother) and love and admiration (Kaworu), and Asuka is sadly a sexual desire.. they both gravitate together through hate, they fight and can't seem to get to a middle ground for more than just a minute. They are polar opposites and it's only after the complementation ends that she understands Shinji's feelings and caresses him to show him for once love, but what shinji feels is embarrasment because she now knows how he feels neglected by everyone and he's scarred of how she'll react in a negative way bareting him.. but gladly she does not
In Japan, draft 1 of episode 24 is known as the scene where Shinji tries to confess to Kaworu. Shinji tells Ritsuko that he has never been in love. He is excited when he meets Kaworu, and tries to confess his feelings to him. Almost certainly "カヲル君、僕は君のことが......" is followed by "好き". In other words, his first love is Kaworu. He despairs because Kaworu refuses to confess, but the translation only says "I…" so I don't think the meaning is conveyed. This is a draft but I feel he is bi.
Yo, he IS bisexual. He went into GREAT breakdown because of Kaworu and his other friends. But the tension between the two are very much odd. Why would he blush everytime he interact with Kaworu tho. And Kaworu’s name is written beside Shinji, meaning they’are meant to meet again, only to fill the other’s gap.A.K.A soulmates. And something fruity happens in manga and as well as the screenplay drafts. Gotta check them up.
After watching all of Evangelion, both the original and Rebuild…Kaworu easily has the most actual romantic chemistry with Shinji than any other character he’s been shipped with.
@@pyschobandit4478 unconsensually though because Kaworu thought he needed CPR. However Sadamoto would have included a genuine kiss scene but was too embarrassed so he made the excuse up.
This video is one of the better discussions about Shinji’s sexuality in relation too Kawrou tbh, He’s definitely NOT homosexual since it’s pretty obvious that he likes women and the hospital scene is only one of the times where he’s shown to like girls. Him being bisexual is definitely more within the realm of possibility
I belive shinji is bisexual(specifically bi romantic) , shinji in my eyes represents humanity as a whole , and humanity has learned that love is love and love can take many forms , the unconditional love from kaworu opens his eyes , he lust for asuka and the love for rei is really the need of a mother , kaworu shows shinji unconditional true love , shinji has shown no sexual attraction to kaworu (at least from all the nge media I’ve seen)
As somebody who only recently got into Evangelion...yeah to me there is no question about Shinji's bisexuality. If anything this is one of the very few things the story was straightforward about.
I think for psychological analysis, Shinji being gay would bring things deeper and it would make a lot of sense. There’s so many times in the series where Shinji does not express his “attraction” towards women like his peers do. I think because of the whole womb separation / deep attachment trauma he forces himself to sexualize Asuka. But like.. he never felt comfortable around women. He only felt like he had to be attracted to them. Like comphet.
@@heartvalaisbisexual ppl don’t have to show their attraction to both men and women at the same time to prove our sexuality to you people. He could still be bi and not openly show interest in women. Just like a bi person can be in a straight relationship and still be queer.
@@NickTalksFilms Shinji and Kaworu's relationship is much more hostile despite the latter appearing earlier. Also Shinji has internalized homophobia and doesn't admit (reluctantly) he was attracted to him until after he dies.
With the other “official” media in mind Shinji is very clearly into Kaworu and I think that’s a pretty queer. He could obviously be bi with a preference towards women tho, that’s what I think he is
hes heterosexual and pansexual, hes attracted to kaworu, not because hes a guy, but that hes a person shinji can truly trust, and who will always care about shinji unconditionally. but hes straight because hes sexually attracted to girls, this is the most in depth explanation i could come up with.
Fun fact guys, according to my research that the Creators of Shinji is basically took from his character design of Nadia (a tanned girl version of Shinji) from Nadia the Secret of the Blue Water, yes that anime made by Gainmax themselves who created Neon Genesis Evangelion
He is most likely Bi for showing some interest on Asuka and blush seeing more of her skin, I don't realy care if shinji is bi I love him and sympathize with him whether he is into both or not
BRO I AM SURE YOU DID NOT READ THE MANGA AKAKKAAKAK im gonna explain, so in chapter 67 of the OFFICIAL manga we have a scene where kaworu kisses shinji on him bed and then literaly confece his love for shinji, and after that, he asks if shinji loves him too, but our SHY BOY said that “GUYS DONT LOVE OTHER GUYS”, BUT he didnt say that he doesnt love kaworu too… THEN, there Is also a scene where shinji thinks about what happened betwene they and he LITERALLY (no joking at all go read the manga) thinks and admits for himself that he IS attracted to kaworu, and he loves him… Like based on the manga, shinji loves kaworu, so he Is gay or bi, but Not even near to BE straight❤ Oh AND also while he Is Talking with misato, he said to her that he Loved kaworu, After kill him😢
Honestly he's based on anno himself, so I'd say he's straight. Atleast his rebuild counter part. The thing about kawrou is that he's a metaphorical ideal version of shinji, so I guess it's a metaphor for shinji wanting to break free of the weight of expectations and become the person he wants to be. And if we're looking at the end of 3.0+1.0 shinji literally gets together with mari, the charector who anno hideko based on his wife so that should say something
@@tylerleach8796 Honestly im pretty sure rebuild was just anno's way of calling himself cringe for being depressed during the 90's when he made the orignal show and end of eva
Mari being based on Anno's wife is rumor that was debunked. Plus the character was created by someone else and showed up first in the manga written by Sadamoto. The original 2 drafts for Kaworu's episode was so overtly gay to the point that Anno tried to tone it down, but he also said they kept the same vibe from the drafts.
@@NickTalksFilmsif you read the manga they do kiss and shinji does admit he had feelings for kaworu. the kiss scene is in vol4 ch67, and when he admits his feelings is in vol4 ch75, but depending on what translation you read it’ll either say “I was attracted to him” or “I was drawn to him” (also kaworu tells him if he ever felt anything for him, then he’d kill him in vol4, ch73)
Nah as i remember he often blushed when having physical touch or being put in an embarrassed situation with girls then leading to some romantic stuff, they are also the most closed pp to him, i mean, we don't have a chance to see Shinji in the same condition with boys. Maybe it will reveal sth more? There is a scene that Kaji nearly kissed Shinji which made him blushed Ashhh i don't like fan service at all👺
"I don't care about your gender, only if you love me": 😊 "I don't care about your gender, only if you love me": 💀 I think the problem with labelling Shinji under defined sexualities is troublesome as Shinji is not a mature functioning person who is able to clearly see labels, he does not see his relationship with kaworu as gay or his relationship with asuka as straight, he does not see gender in this. So I would possibly assign him as pansexual, HOWEVER as I said earlier I think labelling under any sexuality is problematic as Shinji is pansexual not because he doesn't see through gender, it's because he's so deprived of attention and love that he would accept literally anyone who would show him unconditional (but unhealthy) affection which he cannot give to himself or reciprocate to others, which is why throughout the show hes confused with his feelings moving from person to person each time he's confused, overwhelmed or hurt (Rei to Asuka to Kaworu).
Unironically Shinji is NOT gay he loves Kaworu so much because he was the only one who had given him unconditional love. He doesnt remember his mom he doesnt know how being loved or love himself thats why it meant so much for him. And lets not forget that in Japan is even weirder to see people being open with their feelings so to shinji Kaworu is nothing as minuscule as a love interest he was so much more because he was the one who showed shinji he was lovable.
I always thought the relationship between shinji and kaworu was very forced and not true at all Shinji met kaworu when he was isolated and craving for some form of human connection The idea of shinji liking men felt so out of nowhere because up till this point shinji seemed to be straight, there was no clues or hints of him liking men and whenever it tackled the themes of shinjis sexual desires it was always directed at women Also Shinji manga makes it pretty clear he isnt bi, even threatening to punch him when he lost rei I think in the og series anyway, he was most probably straight but just confused. It cant be a coincidence that the only time shinji shows he might like men is when be met a guy when he was another one of his lowests mentally
Yeah, that’s why I came to the conclusion I did. It was very situational. But the show and manga are two different universes. If he was bi tho, I don’t think that would be an issue.
@@NickTalksFilms i will say that I think for the og show it would feel extremely forced if shinji was bi I mean not only was there no hints at all that he liked men, but he even once said showed his confusion of the idea of being gay when talking to kaji All in all I'd rule out the idea of him being bi, the only so called proof is Kaworu who shinji met when he was craving for any kind of human connection Everything else in the show that dealt with shinjis sexual desires was always directed at women, he never once says he likes men and there's no hints or actual genuine proof
I don’t think it would be forced. A 14 year old questioning his sexuality isn’t unheard of. Also homosexuality in Japan is viewed differently, leading to shinjis confusion with the idea in that scene with kaji. The show was also made in the 90s, before gay marriage was legal in lots of countries. Hell, it’s still not legal in Japan I’m pretty sure. Again, in the video I explain that we can’t be sure of his sexuality, but the evidence we have probably means he was at least questioning his sexuality when meeting Kaworu.
@nickmakesfilmsYT the reason why I think it would be forced is because there was no hints or mentions of it You'd think in something like episode 16 or 19 when shinji is stuck inside eva 1 and he's forced to confront his mentality, that there would have been atleast some hints here and there, after all that was shinji literally inside his own mind and yet there was absolutely nothing that showed he might like men Also just in general the relationship between shinji and kaworu felt forced, it was so out of nowhere and It never felt genuine, which is why I really don't ship these two together in the og series Cause one there's nothing to really prove that shinji likes men and two cause they never felt like they were meant to be, it was an extremely unrealistic and that was the point It was to show us that a perfect relationship can never happen, and that perfect relationships are not healthy or sustainable Shinji and asuka could be a healthy and realistic relationship because they both had struggles and had disagreements, despite being very different people they both suffered very similarly and they both could grow as people and learn to love each other Shinji and kaworu were to perfect, there was nothing for them to sustain themselves one and it ended up feeling dull and unhealthy I hope that makes sence
What you are saying does make sense. But I don’t think it entirely disproves anything. Nor does anything in the show prove anything. But I understand your reasoning on why you don’t think Shinji is bi.
I think Shinji is gay, at least in my headcanon. He seemed disgusted in himself when he did *that* to Asuka yet blushed when he was approached by Koworu and Akari. He feels neglected by his father and comforted by a masculine figure who provides him unconditional love. I think the emotional stress of being an eva pilot at a young age probably doesn't help him much too. He has the weight of the world on his shoulders. During the bathhouse scene with Kaworu he seemed apprehensive and confused at first but relaxed quickly afterward. I don't think he even understood homosexuality was even a thing given he said "but I'm a guy" as well. Either way, this show gives me headache enough as it is and I couldn't care less what a fictional characters sexuality is. I think the overall story of the show should be the main focus instead. Too convoluted to wrap my brain around. The religious symbolism is enough madness. I guess if he was bisexual, it could tie in with him being seen as a messiah-like figure who has love for everyone? That would make sense for me.
@@kyubeyo hi Kyubey ! This universe would have been a great Magic Girl breeding ground, am I right ? And the Angels could even facilitate your work too !
Honestly idk why we are debating on if he's gay or not. Yeah, he may be sexually attracted to women, but emotionally, he can be attracted to anyone basically
Also, no offense to both of these characters since they are the unfortunate victims of this, but Asuka and Rei seems more here to attract the male audience, so realistically, chemistry is inexistent in this case bc anyway creeps will probably self insert themselves. Yes, I didn't watch the series nor I've read the manga, but it's too obvious. There's no point into mentioning "he's sexually attracted to" yes it makes sense old fashioned brand mentality, but no emotionally, there is no interest
I think he’s straight just lonely loll. Only reason he’s into kaworu is cause he’s like the only one that shows him unconditional love! I say dis as a fruity mf. :P
I see shinji as straight because what he feels towards kaworu is not love, he just deeply latched onto him because that is the first unconditional love he received.
If you think about it, would it be considered exophilia? Sure he maintains the form of a Human, but he's an angel... but then again when you think of it technically they are both derived from angels Adam and Lillith.
See bro do you love Jesus or Allah or lord Krishna if you do then you are gay from your logic but you aren't and Kaoru is a divine being a soul of Adam he is a god so there is a chance that shinji can be attracted to Kaoru and the love is not romantic it's a agonic love a love between God and his worshipper
Shinji is attracted to Kaworu because Anno said he's the ideal version of himself and it was an intentional decision to make the episode feel gay. The biblical stuff in Evangelion are done just for the cool visuals and mysterious vibe because Japanese people know little of it. It's loosely connected on a superficial level, based on what people who aren't familiar with Christianity would think. Angels are literally space monsters that wish to destroy humanity in the show because humans stole their planet. Adam is the ancestor of the enemy species to humans. This isn't about worshippers loving Jesus
@@flyingstapler1241 One thing I do wonder is whether Kaworu loves Shinji because he sees him romantically or as a God such as Jesus would love his followers? Since he's derived from Adam I do wonder how exactly he is sophisticated, having higher forms of emotion considering he would have the fruit of life rather than the fruit of knowledge
Gay is when a man likes a man Straight is just when a man likes a woman or a woman likes a man Queer is lgtbq And bi is a man or woman that likes both genders
@@NickTalksFilms Well I certainly don't see a problem with it, there was no physical contact with Asuka and thus no violation of her rights, although It's debatable whether she even deserves them.
@@NickTalksFilms He pushed Asuka trying to wake her up since he was so desperate for anyone to help him. *Accidently* exposed her chest. How so? If you ask me there isn't much difference between jacking off to an unconscious body and jacking off to porn, since both don't know you're doing it.
Spoliers???
watch evangelion before watching this video
Why would you go on this vid in the first place if you didn't already watch it lmao
I think the main reason Shinji shows attraction to Kaworu but not other guys is the same reason why he mainly shows attractions to females he seems to be well acquainted with. Simply put: Shinji is more attracted to people he has SOME emotional connection with at the very least, even if they're kind of toxic like Asuka.
New hc just dropped. Demisexual/romantic Shinji real
@@kyubeyo "hc" stands for?
@@absurdturkheadcanon
@@johndoe1053 I can't find anything on Google suggesting it's canon.
@@absurdturk “headcanon” is kind of a misleading name. It’s something a fan believes, but knows is not canon.
Abolish labels. Shinji is just so desperate for any sort of affection he’d take literally anything.
You mean, like Misato when she kisses him ?
So true
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He’s not homosexual, I don’t think he’s bisexual.
He “loved” Kaworu because he loves anyone who shows affection towards him. To Shinji, other people are just a means to an end; he lacks love for himself, he HATES himself, and other people exist to comfort him since he can’t comfort himself. He loves anyone who comforts him.
Like that scene when Misato tried to molest him in NGE, he rejected her ONLY because he could tell that she wasn’t trying to comfort him, she was trying to comfort herself. You know he would have gobbled up that opportunity otherwise, but he sees people as “things” that make him feel better about himself. And Misato wasn’t actually there to comfort him.
Stupid mean if shinji doesn't a bisexual is he straight 🤢🤮🫵 you she what shinji doing with asuka body so you don't thinki shinji not a bisexual sutpid idiot what a stupud mean ha shinji say with misato i love him is word love boy 😂@@lillen3
Shinji and Kaworu are so sweet i wish gay people were real
Same
No I want gay people to exist not be real🍷🗿
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i think he's bi, he felt that someone loved him for once but if he didn't like men he would've just been glad but not develop any feelings for Kaworu, he's even deeply heartbroken after his death and even says 'he loved me' to Misato.. a part from that, we can see the analogy of Kaworu being Adan and symbolizing manhood, father, manly figure, which makes sense since he's been neglected by his own father.. there's a moment where Shinji felt a subtle love gesture from his father when he said to him good job. It's kind of cliché but not having a father(nor mother figure) present marks deeply someone's soul.. that doesn't mean he is bi because of that, but it adds more to how he feels towards men as a whole. You can even tell he blushed when Kaji pranked on kissing him.. And lastly, he sees the gigant ghost of Kaworu and Rei morphing together, they both represent the mix between lilith and adam and it's to me a representation of men and women and two people who have shown appreciation, caring (Rei is literally his mother) and love and admiration (Kaworu), and Asuka is sadly a sexual desire.. they both gravitate together through hate, they fight and can't seem to get to a middle ground for more than just a minute. They are polar opposites and it's only after the complementation ends that she understands Shinji's feelings and caresses him to show him for once love, but what shinji feels is embarrasment because she now knows how he feels neglected by everyone and he's scarred of how she'll react in a negative way bareting him.. but gladly she does not
In Japan, draft 1 of episode 24 is known as the scene where Shinji tries to confess to Kaworu.
Shinji tells Ritsuko that he has never been in love. He is excited when he meets Kaworu, and tries to confess his feelings to him.
Almost certainly "カヲル君、僕は君のことが......" is followed by "好き".
In other words, his first love is Kaworu.
He despairs because Kaworu refuses to confess, but the translation only says "I…" so I don't think the meaning is conveyed.
This is a draft but I feel he is bi.
Shinji isn't bi, straight or gay.
He's shinji
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Evangelion logic
Yo, he IS bisexual. He went into GREAT breakdown because of Kaworu and his other friends. But the tension between the two are very much odd. Why would he blush everytime he interact with Kaworu tho. And Kaworu’s name is written beside Shinji, meaning they’are meant to meet again, only to fill the other’s gap.A.K.A soulmates. And something fruity happens in manga and as well as the screenplay drafts. Gotta check them up.
After watching all of Evangelion, both the original and Rebuild…Kaworu easily has the most actual romantic chemistry with Shinji than any other character he’s been shipped with.
Agreed
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I think they kiss the most too? I dunno
@@eyboss1492in the manga, they kissed.
@@pyschobandit4478 unconsensually though because Kaworu thought he needed CPR. However Sadamoto would have included a genuine kiss scene but was too embarrassed so he made the excuse up.
This video is one of the better discussions about Shinji’s sexuality in relation too Kawrou tbh, He’s definitely NOT homosexual since it’s pretty obvious that he likes women and the hospital scene is only one of the times where he’s shown to like girls. Him being bisexual is definitely more within the realm of possibility
HAVE YOU PLAYED THE GAMES!? well I haven't but I've seen others play and it is questionable.
@@Fried_Rice674 what?🤨
@@jbstarkiller4626 you should see how they act with eachother
@@Fried_Rice674 Butt sex?🙂 if so which game?
@@Fried_Rice674 They aren't primary canon silly
I belive shinji is bisexual(specifically bi romantic) , shinji in my eyes represents humanity as a whole , and humanity has learned that love is love and love can take many forms , the unconditional love from kaworu opens his eyes , he lust for asuka and the love for rei is really the need of a mother , kaworu shows shinji unconditional true love , shinji has shown no sexual attraction to kaworu (at least from all the nge media I’ve seen)
As somebody who only recently got into Evangelion...yeah to me there is no question about Shinji's bisexuality. If anything this is one of the very few things the story was straightforward about.
I think for psychological analysis, Shinji being gay would bring things deeper and it would make a lot of sense. There’s so many times in the series where Shinji does not express his “attraction” towards women like his peers do. I think because of the whole womb separation / deep attachment trauma he forces himself to sexualize Asuka. But like.. he never felt comfortable around women. He only felt like he had to be attracted to them. Like comphet.
@@heartvalaisbisexual ppl don’t have to show their attraction to both men and women at the same time to prove our sexuality to you people. He could still be bi and not openly show interest in women. Just like a bi person can be in a straight relationship and still be queer.
We don’t talk about the manga with Kaworu and Shinji…👀👀👀
I hear it’s dramatic. Still need to read it.
@@NickTalksFilms Shinji and Kaworu's relationship is much more hostile despite the latter appearing earlier. Also Shinji has internalized homophobia and doesn't admit (reluctantly) he was attracted to him until after he dies.
You can't look at someone the way shinji looks at kaworu and still be straight
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Kaworu literally kissed Shinji in the manga
Everyone is a little gay. But Shinji is a little more gay than that.
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The war is never over. There will always be another fight.
With the other “official” media in mind Shinji is very clearly into Kaworu and I think that’s a pretty queer. He could obviously be bi with a preference towards women tho, that’s what I think he is
hes heterosexual and pansexual, hes attracted to kaworu, not because hes a guy, but that hes a person shinji can truly trust, and who will always care about shinji unconditionally. but hes straight because hes sexually attracted to girls, this is the most in depth explanation i could come up with.
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so he’s pan then?
so panromantic heterosexual?
"is shinji b-" yes, next question.
Maybe it’s just that Kaworu is just the only person who gives Shinji love at all, which is really sad :(
That’s a possibility
"Probably just a questioning straight guy" Straight men don't get romantic feelings for another man, and Shinji was falling in love with Kaworu.
Fun fact guys, according to my research that the Creators of Shinji is basically took from his character design of Nadia (a tanned girl version of Shinji) from Nadia the Secret of the Blue Water, yes that anime made by Gainmax themselves who created Neon Genesis Evangelion
He is most likely Bi for showing some interest on Asuka and blush seeing more of her skin, I don't realy care if shinji is bi I love him and sympathize with him whether he is into both or not
Nice, another bi-icon i can look up to!
Doesn't really matter because Shinji is still the goat
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Dont we all
What's queer? I haven't updated my brain yet🍷🗿
@@Goofybig_gooberpeople like Kids Who think loves the same sex i thing... Ahahah🗿
@@thaspectralhuntergg3887 please use understanding English
BRO I AM SURE YOU DID NOT READ THE MANGA AKAKKAAKAK
im gonna explain, so in chapter 67 of the OFFICIAL manga we have a scene where kaworu kisses shinji on him bed and then literaly confece his love for shinji, and after that, he asks if shinji loves him too, but our SHY BOY said that “GUYS DONT LOVE OTHER GUYS”, BUT he didnt say that he doesnt love kaworu too…
THEN, there Is also a scene where shinji thinks about what happened betwene they and he LITERALLY (no joking at all go read the manga) thinks and admits for himself that he IS attracted to kaworu, and he loves him…
Like based on the manga, shinji loves kaworu, so he Is gay or bi, but Not even near to BE straight❤
Oh AND also while he Is Talking with misato, he said to her that he Loved kaworu, After kill him😢
Thanks for explaining!
Honestly he's based on anno himself, so I'd say he's straight. Atleast his rebuild counter part. The thing about kawrou is that he's a metaphorical ideal version of shinji, so I guess it's a metaphor for shinji wanting to break free of the weight of expectations and become the person he wants to be. And if we're looking at the end of 3.0+1.0 shinji literally gets together with mari, the charector who anno hideko based on his wife so that should say something
Oh, so that’s why Shinji got with the glasses girl despite the fact that I’m pretty sure the two barely knew each other.
@@tylerleach8796 Honestly im pretty sure rebuild was just anno's way of calling himself cringe for being depressed during the 90's when he made the orignal show and end of eva
Mari being based on Anno's wife is rumor that was debunked. Plus the character was created by someone else and showed up first in the manga written by Sadamoto. The original 2 drafts for Kaworu's episode was so overtly gay to the point that Anno tried to tone it down, but he also said they kept the same vibe from the drafts.
Shinji is bi in the manga
Someone commented that he isn't in the manga so I don't know who to believe lol
@@NickTalksFilmsif you read the manga they do kiss and shinji does admit he had feelings for kaworu. the kiss scene is in vol4 ch67, and when he admits his feelings is in vol4 ch75, but depending on what translation you read it’ll either say “I was attracted to him” or “I was drawn to him” (also kaworu tells him if he ever felt anything for him, then he’d kill him in vol4, ch73)
@@ill.lly__ that's interesting, but the manga is in it's own canon separate from the show. But I appreciate the sources!
@@NickTalksFilms np, it’s still a very good read though, with or without watching the show 🤷♀️
@@ill.lly__ i know i have to read it!
Nah as i remember he often blushed when having physical touch or being put in an embarrassed situation with girls then leading to some romantic stuff, they are also the most closed pp to him, i mean, we don't have a chance to see Shinji in the same condition with boys. Maybe it will reveal sth more?
There is a scene that Kaji nearly kissed Shinji which made him blushed
Ashhh i don't like fan service at all👺
"I don't care about your gender, only if you love me": 😊
"I don't care about your gender, only if you love me": 💀
I think the problem with labelling Shinji under defined sexualities is troublesome as Shinji is not a mature functioning person who is able to clearly see labels, he does not see his relationship with kaworu as gay or his relationship with asuka as straight, he does not see gender in this. So I would possibly assign him as pansexual, HOWEVER as I said earlier I think labelling under any sexuality is problematic as Shinji is pansexual not because he doesn't see through gender, it's because he's so deprived of attention and love that he would accept literally anyone who would show him unconditional (but unhealthy) affection which he cannot give to himself or reciprocate to others, which is why throughout the show hes confused with his feelings moving from person to person each time he's confused, overwhelmed or hurt (Rei to Asuka to Kaworu).
Unironically Shinji is NOT gay he loves Kaworu so much because he was the only one who had given him unconditional love. He doesnt remember his mom he doesnt know how being loved or love himself thats why it meant so much for him. And lets not forget that in Japan is even weirder to see people being open with their feelings so to shinji Kaworu is nothing as minuscule as a love interest he was so much more because he was the one who showed shinji he was lovable.
Maybe he’s pan, he just wants to be loved whatever the person’s gender, but for me he’s bi
The subtleties of the adolescent mind are unrelated to categorization.
Lol thanks for this. Basically summed some things up about myself tbh lmao
I don't really think he is gay or bisexual , but shinji never experienced love or intimacy before , that's why he was very clinged to kawuro
That could be the case!
please analyze impotance of hospital scene
april 1st 2024
I’d be throwing Kaworu around
Bro is an angel
I’m having no remorse just cause you look human
Ain’t mean these hands aren’t E for everyone
Lmao he’s nice tho
@@NickTalksFilms yeah until hes too nice and he does something weird
Then I right hook
@@JodaroKujo 😂😂😂
flyyyy me to the moon.....
FLY ME TO THE MOON
I always thought the relationship between shinji and kaworu was very forced and not true at all
Shinji met kaworu when he was isolated and craving for some form of human connection
The idea of shinji liking men felt so out of nowhere because up till this point shinji seemed to be straight, there was no clues or hints of him liking men and whenever it tackled the themes of shinjis sexual desires it was always directed at women
Also Shinji manga makes it pretty clear he isnt bi, even threatening to punch him when he lost rei
I think in the og series anyway, he was most probably straight but just confused. It cant be a coincidence that the only time shinji shows he might like men is when be met a guy when he was another one of his lowests mentally
Yeah, that’s why I came to the conclusion I did. It was very situational. But the show and manga are two different universes. If he was bi tho, I don’t think that would be an issue.
@@NickTalksFilms i will say that I think for the og show it would feel extremely forced if shinji was bi
I mean not only was there no hints at all that he liked men, but he even once said showed his confusion of the idea of being gay when talking to kaji
All in all I'd rule out the idea of him being bi, the only so called proof is Kaworu who shinji met when he was craving for any kind of human connection
Everything else in the show that dealt with shinjis sexual desires was always directed at women, he never once says he likes men and there's no hints or actual genuine proof
I don’t think it would be forced. A 14 year old questioning his sexuality isn’t unheard of. Also homosexuality in Japan is viewed differently, leading to shinjis confusion with the idea in that scene with kaji. The show was also made in the 90s, before gay marriage was legal in lots of countries. Hell, it’s still not legal in Japan I’m pretty sure. Again, in the video I explain that we can’t be sure of his sexuality, but the evidence we have probably means he was at least questioning his sexuality when meeting Kaworu.
@nickmakesfilmsYT the reason why I think it would be forced is because there was no hints or mentions of it
You'd think in something like episode 16 or 19 when shinji is stuck inside eva 1 and he's forced to confront his mentality, that there would have been atleast some hints here and there, after all that was shinji literally inside his own mind and yet there was absolutely nothing that showed he might like men
Also just in general the relationship between shinji and kaworu felt forced, it was so out of nowhere and It never felt genuine, which is why I really don't ship these two together in the og series
Cause one there's nothing to really prove that shinji likes men and two cause they never felt like they were meant to be, it was an extremely unrealistic and that was the point
It was to show us that a perfect relationship can never happen, and that perfect relationships are not healthy or sustainable
Shinji and asuka could be a healthy and realistic relationship because they both had struggles and had disagreements, despite being very different people they both suffered very similarly and they both could grow as people and learn to love each other
Shinji and kaworu were to perfect, there was nothing for them to sustain themselves one and it ended up feeling dull and unhealthy
I hope that makes sence
What you are saying does make sense. But I don’t think it entirely disproves anything. Nor does anything in the show prove anything. But I understand your reasoning on why you don’t think Shinji is bi.
He is probably Bi because he attracted Kaji and Kaoru but Misato and Asuka and Rei.
Is Shinji gay? That’s like asking if Killua is gay for Gon.
Shinji is bisexual but raei asuka die and kaworu gay bisexual like shinji like he like kaworu 70% > 30% asuka
Kaworu : 😊🥰👍
Asuka : 🤓🤡😡🤬😏😒🗿☕️❤
I think Shinji is gay, at least in my headcanon. He seemed disgusted in himself when he did *that* to Asuka yet blushed when he was approached by Koworu and Akari. He feels neglected by his father and comforted by a masculine figure who provides him unconditional love. I think the emotional stress of being an eva pilot at a young age probably doesn't help him much too. He has the weight of the world on his shoulders. During the bathhouse scene with Kaworu he seemed apprehensive and confused at first but relaxed quickly afterward. I don't think he even understood homosexuality was even a thing given he said "but I'm a guy" as well. Either way, this show gives me headache enough as it is and I couldn't care less what a fictional characters sexuality is. I think the overall story of the show should be the main focus instead. Too convoluted to wrap my brain around. The religious symbolism is enough madness. I guess if he was bisexual, it could tie in with him being seen as a messiah-like figure who has love for everyone? That would make sense for me.
In Episode 10 Shinji also blushed and got an erection when he was outside and heard the girl pilots roughhousing on the other side of the bath.
He’s bi also because the scene with Kaji in the rebuild
Bi, if I'm not mistaken.
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@@kyubeyo hi Kyubey ! This universe would have been a great Magic Girl breeding ground, am I right ? And the Angels could even facilitate your work too !
1:44 Both (in my opinion)
Honestly idk why we are debating on if he's gay or not. Yeah, he may be sexually attracted to women, but emotionally, he can be attracted to anyone basically
Also, no offense to both of these characters since they are the unfortunate victims of this, but Asuka and Rei seems more here to attract the male audience, so realistically, chemistry is inexistent in this case bc anyway creeps will probably self insert themselves. Yes, I didn't watch the series nor I've read the manga, but it's too obvious. There's no point into mentioning "he's sexually attracted to" yes it makes sense old fashioned brand mentality, but no emotionally, there is no interest
WRONG! he's literally me and he's as straight as me
I think he’s straight just lonely loll. Only reason he’s into kaworu is cause he’s like the only one that shows him unconditional love! I say dis as a fruity mf. :P
Yeah that's why I came to the conclusion I did, but it would be cool if he was bi or something.
the answer is yes
I see shinji as straight because what he feels towards kaworu is not love, he just deeply latched onto him because that is the first unconditional love he received.
If you think about it, would it be considered exophilia? Sure he maintains the form of a Human, but he's an angel... but then again when you think of it technically they are both derived from angels Adam and Lillith.
See bro do you love Jesus or Allah or lord Krishna if you do then you are gay from your logic but you aren't and Kaoru is a divine being a soul of Adam he is a god so there is a chance that shinji can be attracted to Kaoru and the love is not romantic it's a agonic love a love between God and his worshipper
what is he talking about
This Is realll
Shinji is attracted to Kaworu because Anno said he's the ideal version of himself and it was an intentional decision to make the episode feel gay. The biblical stuff in Evangelion are done just for the cool visuals and mysterious vibe because Japanese people know little of it. It's loosely connected on a superficial level, based on what people who aren't familiar with Christianity would think. Angels are literally space monsters that wish to destroy humanity in the show because humans stole their planet. Adam is the ancestor of the enemy species to humans. This isn't about worshippers loving Jesus
@@flyingstapler1241 who knows
@@flyingstapler1241 One thing I do wonder is whether Kaworu loves Shinji because he sees him romantically or as a God such as Jesus would love his followers? Since he's derived from Adam I do wonder how exactly he is sophisticated, having higher forms of emotion considering he would have the fruit of life rather than the fruit of knowledge
Nah... He's just traumatized
There's also the Kaji thing...
Questioning isn't a sexuality.
Hes ShinSexual
Bro what's gay, straight,bi,qeer huh what are this
Gay is when a man likes a man
Straight is just when a man likes a woman or a woman likes a man
Queer is lgtbq
And bi is a man or woman that likes both genders
Is this a question?
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Hes bi
he isn’t gay bi whatever since angels are male and female and humans are angels
This Is true man
What💀
Did you even watch evangelion
Looking back at this I don’t know what I even meant
@@malthe236 oh
he’s not gay, I can say this by experience, as people call me gay for liking one guy even though I know that I am straight, inside and out
gay
If u liked a dude it means ur bi
No
Lost me when you called him a "freak" for the hospital scene.
Sorry that was completely normal behavior for someone to do
@@NickTalksFilms Well I certainly don't see a problem with it, there was no physical contact with Asuka and thus no violation of her rights, although It's debatable whether she even deserves them.
@@internetual7350 please tell me you are joking. He did push asuka and exposed her chest. Also what he did was illegal.
@@NickTalksFilms He pushed Asuka trying to wake her up since he was so desperate for anyone to help him. *Accidently* exposed her chest. How so? If you ask me there isn't much difference between jacking off to an unconscious body and jacking off to porn, since both don't know you're doing it.
@@internetual7350 HE DID IT IN A PUBLIC HOSPITAL ROOM
Gross.
whats gross?
No.
maybe
No what
imagine discussing about political things like this one in anime
???? Then anime shouldn't touch it in the first place, but they did lol.
they didnt netlfix changed some things to as they would say "to support lgbt"
@@ktos2898 so shinji blushing wasn't in the original? Why do you think he was blushing?
cuz he knew someone finally understand him @@robertlopez7888
Netflix literally made it less gay what. @@ktos2898
HETEROSEXUAL